Your Daily Palin Roundup
Too much stuff for a separate post about every issue:
- MoDo smears Palin:
Does she really think Adam, Eve, Satan and the dinosaurs mingled on the earth 5,000 years ago?
Why put out a press release about her teenage daughter’s pregnancy and then spend the next few days attacking the press for covering that press release?
As Troopergate unfolds here — an inquiry into whether Palin inappropriately fired the commissioner of public safety for refusing to fire her ex-brother-in-law — it raises this question: Who else is on her enemies list and what might she do with the F.B.I.?
Does she want a federal ban on trans fat in restaurants and a ban on abortion and Harry Potter? And which books exactly would have landed on the literature bonfire if she had had her way with that Wasilla librarian?
There are too many smears there to count. If you don’t recognize them by now — e.g. the “Harry Potter” books appear on a phony list of banned books — I can’t help you. Bad MoDo! Lying MoDo!
- Juan Cole: “What’s the difference between Palin and Muslim fundamentalists? Lipstick.”
- Ed Morrissey on Palin’s reforms.
- Sandra Tsing Loh, recently described by the L.A. Times as a “cunning linguist,” uses her lingual skills to praise Sarah Palin for being the only candidate on either ticket to send her kids to public schools.
- ABC News debunks some earmarking urban legends about Palin.
- Beldar relays a heartwarming story of Palin’s kindness to a special needs child and her parents on the campaign trail — with no thought of using it as a photo op.
- And the angry side of Beldar emerges as he excoriates Newsweek for taking the side of “Taserboy” Wooten in the Tasergate scandal. Something that hadn’t really occurred to me before: the man Wooten had threatened to kill, Palin’s father, was that nice man Palin introduced in her speech.
- Roger Ebert:
Palin is a shallow, chirpy person with those vaguely alarming eyeglasses. Now her fans all want a pair. Remember back when women wore glasses that departed their ears in plastic swoops and swirls? My theory is, anyone who wears glasses that look weird is telling me something I don’t want to know.
I added the link. I don’t think Roger would have.
- And still more apparent sexism:
South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin today, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate “whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”
- Even Joe Biden thinks Hillary would have been a better pick than he is.
from Ebert’s column:
And how can you be her age and never have gone to Europe?
Try having 5 kids, Roger. Of course the other liberal knock is because she has 5 kids she doesn’t have time to be VP.
You don’t need to be a pointy-headed elitist to travel abroad. You need curiosity and a hunger to see the world. What kind of a person (who has the money) arrives at the age of 44 and has only been out of the country once, on an official tour to Iraq?
liontooth (0edfdb) — 9/10/2008 @ 11:16 pmYou do have to be a pointy-headed elitist to believe that the Cannes France is the center of the universe.
newsflash: most American voters have not visited Europe. It’s expensive.
Obama supporters joking that a busy, professionally effective and successful mother of five has never toured the Alps: you are doing Palin a favor. Palin is easier to identify with now.
Juan (4cdfb7) — 9/10/2008 @ 11:21 pmI watched Palin speak tonight after arriving home in Alaska. She is a gifted speaker who has the ability to get her message across in a very natural way, as if she’s actually speaking to you. Obama gives speeches; Palin talks to the folks.
She never says, uh, umm. Never. I don’t know how she does it. Obama sputters more ums, ahs and uhs in one minute than Palin did in all three speeches I’ve seen her deliver.
She definitely has the Reagan, folksy communication gene.
PC14 (ec0516) — 9/10/2008 @ 11:22 pmObama blew $150 million on the Chicago school system and then sends his own kids to a private school in Chicago.
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 9/10/2008 @ 11:25 pmWhat a pompous ass.
A short history of presidential travel abroad:
http://www.gvsu.edu/hauenstein/?id=A9B2BD9E-F5E1-1992-E8AFBEA9FF2AAB09&CFID=9282716&CFTOKEN=68294622
— Maybe someone can link it for Roger Ebert.
Icy Truth (2c3adb) — 9/10/2008 @ 11:27 pmD’oh! Another comment into the hopper due to the link. It was about how for half of our nation’s history no President traveled to Europe.
Icy Truth (2c3adb) — 9/10/2008 @ 11:31 pmThe real question is why Ebert has never traveled to Alaska. Has he no curiosity? What kind of film reviewer is he, to not have traveled there?
Oh, I get it: Europe is where the smart rich white people go, and probably know how to say “merci beaucoup.”
So much for multiculturalism!
Eric Blair (36c1a9) — 9/10/2008 @ 11:35 pmI don’t think the Dowd column was a “smear.” She was simply bringing up questions that everyone has a right to know more about, and that she hopes Gibson will ask. I do not believe questions about real issues in her life are smears. She’s making any definitive judgments.
I mean you could say it was snarky and sarcastic and condescending though. But that’s her stock in trade. She’s done it to Obama, and Hillary and Bill and well pretty much anyone with a public drama going on.
If that column had been written by a man would you have said it was also sexist?
Peter (e70d1c) — 9/11/2008 @ 12:16 amIt’s really amazing watching the obligatory Obama brown-nosing by Hollywood types. It’s almost like you have to make quota to stay off the
blacklistindustry sh*tlist.What’s really funny is watching folks who make neutral or appreciative comments about Palin, suddenly rush out a statement about how they are, of course, strongly backing Obama. Just in case anyone’s keeping track.
I wonder if HUAC could be reformed someday to question Hollywood types about blacklists. They could wear Irony Police badges.
Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 9/11/2008 @ 12:26 amPalin supporters don’t know anything about her, yet are so quick to back an obviously ill-equipped woman to the President’s chair. Obama has both state and federal experience. He’s an ivy league-educated intellectual. Obviously more qualified and intelligent. His race is the only thing holding him back from a landslide victory. But his victory is assured.
Reg (3c3998) — 9/11/2008 @ 12:41 amPalin supporters don’t know anything about her,
What exactly do you know about Obama? Sally Quinn questioned what choice would Palin make at 3am. She didn’t ask that question of Obama, because his record is he can’t be reached
Obama blew $150 million on the Chicago school system and then sends his own kids to a private school in Chicago.
I hope the McCain camp uses that Perfect Sense.
liontooth (0edfdb) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:04 amFrom Roger Ebert:
It sure helps.
Someone who doesn’t make her living sitting on a fat, bloated butt in a dark room staring at a wall arguing about whether or not Woody Allen has lost his touch and pretending it matters more than someone who gives of herself at home and her community.
Why does this citizen-of-the-world nonsense only go one way? When was the last time a Brit or French or Italian or Scandinavian or Brazilian was upbraided for not visiting America? There seems to be an assumption that there’s nothing here for them to see that they would enjoy better than what they have at home. But Americans, we “have” to get on a plane and learn to say more than “merci beaucoup” or we’ll embarrass our Messiah/Community Organizer.
Roger, I’m glad you’re up and around. But when you write such dumb schtuff, I am thankful we don’t have to hear you talking about it.
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:05 amre: #8
Oh, look; another autObamaton™ plays the race, elitist, and ignorance cards — all in one post. Aw . . . good little tard.
Icy Truth (fb6ec3) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:38 amHe’s an ivy league-educated intellectual. Obviously more qualified and intelligent.
Obama’s so educated and intelligent that he thinks there are 57 states. It is ever wonder why there are only 100 senators?
Perfect Sense (9d1b08) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:40 amClueless Reg wrote:
Then why hasn’t he done jack?
What has Obama actually accomplished? We’ve known about him for four years and all he’s done is sell books and give great speeches. THAT’S IT.
What do we know about Palin? She’s a Republican, but chased corrupt Republicans from state government and balanced the budget. She is the most popular Governor in America within her electorate in a state where the office wields significant executive responsibilities. After previous Governors of both parties failed, she was able to hammer out the pathway to a natural gas pipeline to the lower 48.
She’s done more in her two years as Governor than he’s done in two years as Senator. She did all these things without traveling East of the Rockies for her education. I guess in your mind, Reg, that should disqualify Palin, but the way I see it is makes her more qualified than Obama, who went to two of America’s elite universities and hasn’t provided any indication he can deliver what he promises. Which has made more of their education?
Are we to believe EVERYONE who has a sheepskin from an Ivy is fit to lead the nation? Have you forgotten that George W. Bush has two degrees from Ivy League schools?
I am a black man, and I submit his race helped him defeat Hillary when he had nothing to offer than an alternative to her. Just a year ago, people were saying Hillary would be ordering new drapes for the Oval Office just about now. If you think he would be appealing to Republicans if his father wasn’t white, guess again.
Two words: President Dewey. Google it – I’m pretty sure you’re too young and under-educated to know what it means.
L.N. Smithee (27530b) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:44 amIs anyone else as frightened as I am by the possiblity of Ms. Palin having a powerful position in the American Government?
teri (9fac4a) — 9/11/2008 @ 2:14 amLow points of recent presidencies, including nullification of the United States Constitution and the Geneva Convention when it suits the American Government, Blatant dishonesty, Acts of terrorism committed on other countries and peoples – all of this will most certainly continue with a Presidency that includes this woman who has already shown herself to have little regard for honesty and the law. I’m a woman who values my femininity and independence – and I would call Ms. Palin a “pig in lipstick” – no political correctness intended.
Hooray! Another twatwaffle rears her hate-filled disrespectful head. Way to go, teri. You are a credit to your side.
Icy Truth (e88f15) — 9/11/2008 @ 2:26 amFirst of all don’t vote someone because of skin color or gender or religion. Obama, Clinton and Palin are doing things never seen before in Americas politics that will be good for this country going forward. I say this because in my own experience, as I rise up, those in power try to take me down. Oh “you got the job because”…, or “you are the token”…. This has got to stop in America. For too many years “executive experience” has been used as a means to shut out people from leading even though they could lead.
This election is about the future of the US economy. For that I really on 2 sayings 1. It is the economy stupid and 2. Trust but verify.
During the RNC convention, a watched a Soap Opera about Mrs. Palin’s family. I watched attacks but very little substance from the Republican’s side. McCain was right to tell his fellow Republicans that they lost their ways. Republicans, sorry to state, have become “Spend, Spend, Republicans.” See the bloated Budget Deficit- I know the Dems had also a hand on it but we cannot afford more of the same.
Since I got very little substance in the RNC convention, I started to do a little research
about Sarah Palin – whom frankly we will not know enough about by Nov. 4. For those who don’t like Obama, you must have been sleeping not to know that his life has been put through the wrenches in the past 19 months. We now know somethings about him. We also know that “SMEAR” the other candidate is part of politics. Too much so on the Republican side- i.e. Swift Boat and the claim that Obama is not American and that he is some kind of closet Muslim.
Since Mrs. Palin is nitpicking whom she talks to the Press. So, we can only get some stories from what we are told-
See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/08/AR2008090803088.html?hpid=topnewshttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB122092043531812813.html?mod=todays_us_page_one
Mrs. Palin cannot throw stones at the Democrat for earmarks because Alaska remains the champion of earmarks per capita despite a dip.
Mrs. Palin tell fibs about her accomplishment. She overreaches on her resume. We seem to forget we chastised Hillary about her saying how she went to Bosnia and bombs were flying at the airport. We need to chastised Mrs. Palin about her saying she sold the state plane on eBay and other fibs see
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check
Mrs. Palin does not know that a community organizer in South Side of Chicago has a budget, has employees underneath, is responsible for a community much, much larger than Wallisa, Alaska.
ThePoliticalTruth (4ee40d) — 9/11/2008 @ 2:29 am“credit to your side” is a clear sign of disrespect. To assume that one must “side” with one sex or another, based simply on that fact, is to disrespect the right of human beings to intelligent choice. Anger over maltreatment of fellow human beings and dishonest behaviour is quite a different thing from “hate”. You may well have some issues needing address there, “Icy Truth”.
teri (9fac4a) — 9/11/2008 @ 2:32 amEbert’s column has been scrubbed.
Jim Treacher (592cb4) — 9/11/2008 @ 2:46 amLove the intellectual dishonesty there, all you moonbats. Love how you all continue to match the GOP VP nominee up with the Dimmy potus nominee. Yassuh, the magic negro have his faithful asshole buddies here to blow up his so-called accomplishments way out of proportion. Why don’t you all give him credit for that executive experience where he blew $150 million accomplishing nada positive during his Annenberg challenge reign?
Hoping Teri and political lies wear their kneepads as they prostrate their funky selves for Obamadouche.
Don’t you just love how liberals spew venom out against a woman who has far superior sense and actual practical experience when compared to the empty suit affirmative action uh, um gasbag who cannot even control his own harridan wife Michelle’s public hatred for America.
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/11/2008 @ 2:53 amSo Palin isn’t worthy of the office or support from so-called feminists because she hasn’t had an abortion. Most of the lib women I see who are so very irate about the issue are so unattractive that I wonder how they would ever manage an abortion themselves since who would want to actually touch them, let alone impregnate them?
Thank you Icy Truth and Mr. Smithee for confronting these pitiful fools and setting them in their place.
Ah, Madmax… One should really know what one is talking about when one speaks. 1) to speak the truth does not mean one is “spewing venom”, and you might be projecting a bit there; 2) Because one does not follow the Republican Party, does not mean one automatically follows the Democratic Party and it’s nominees, either. The United States actually allows for one to vote for a number of candidates in a number of parties;
teri (9fac4a) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:03 am3) Because one disagrees with your beliefs does not make one “unattractive” – and that is another lengthy topic – just for your interest, in my younger days I was a homecoming queen, and have never been told I was physically “unattractive”, though I feel real attraction is inner.
It could be helpful to you in future to let go of generalizations that put people into “ugly” boxes and simply judge them as individuals with rights to individual opinions (remember the Bill of Rights?)
Carol Fowler’s husband is Don Fowler the guy who got caught in the cell phone video talking about Gustav,New Orleans and the GOP Convention.
Must have lovely pillow talk in that family.
daytrader (ea6549) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:11 amVia The Hill
daytrader (ea6549) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:17 amteri –
“credit to your side” is a clear sign of disrespect.
— No, it’s a sarcastically worded expression of an honest opinion. When you spout several of the standard talking points, that’s the response you should expect to receive.
To assume that one must “side” with one sex or another, based simply on that fact, is to disrespect the right of human beings to intelligent choice.
— I was referring to the liberal side of the political spectrum, not to differences in gender. Only one of us made an assumption here, and it wasn’t me.
Anger over maltreatment of fellow human beings and dishonest behaviour is quite a different thing from “hate”.
— Your Union Jack is showing, luv.
You may well have some issues needing address there, “Icy Truth”.
Icy Truth (6273ad) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:21 am— I’m not the one who wrote, “I would call Ms. Palin a “pig in lipstick” – no political correctness intended.” Seems to me that is a clear sign of disrespect, as well as a display of hate.
Icy Truth:
teri (9fac4a) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:27 amYour back-hair is certainly up. That may not be a bad thing. Sometimes it takes a rub the “wrong” way to stimulate thinking.
Yeah, madmax! What is wrong with you? Don’t you remember the Bill of Rights? Especially the one that says you have the right to have an individual opinion. You know, Amendment number . . . uh . . . uh . . . uh, I dunno; do you know which one that is?
Icy Truth (6273ad) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:30 am“Lying MoDo” is, of course, redundant.
Beldar (8a23eb) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:30 amOh teri, you are so intelligent that you must have read this page before you made your initial comment. You saw the tenor and tone of the comments and you were observant enough to see what many must think on these issues. You then proceed to ask a series questions that you must have had more than small idea what the response would be.
You are upset my so many bad things the USA, you feel, has done against humanity yet what constructive thing have you done to ‘right the wrongs’ of the evil empire that is the United States.
Any idiot can vote (right?) Oh wait your answer must lie along the lines of making quips about a mans back hair.
That certainly is a novel and unique way to ‘fight the good fight’
“vive la resistance”
John (20e868) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:47 amI’m sure many more people find Modo’s beliefs offensive than find Palin’s. Remember when Modo dissed Hillary and got tons of women outraged? And how many of us didn’t know Ebert was still alive? We’re supposed to care what a movie critic thinks of a veep candidate? I don’t even care what movie critics think about movies. This is a huge problem for the media and they don’t even realize it – we’re either tuning them out or jeering at them.
Peg C. (48175e) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:55 amIcy Truth-
You are so politically incorrect. I cannot imagine you being tolerated at all over at fever swamps such as moron.org/kos/huff/DU and so on. I do see the likes of dipwad teri warmly welcomed in those cesspools.
You know she took my abortion statement personally and confesses she was a homecoming queen. And yet the left faults Palin for being in a beauty pageant in her own teens, not to mention that she’s McCain’s “porn star look” pick. How about some more of the Bridge to nowhere/earmarks/tasergate canards, terri sweetie?
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:01 amWhat do you think the chances are of Biden bailing after Palin cleans his clock? Doesn’t matter to me if the Hildebeast moves in at VP. Might help secure more of the PUMA vote for the magic negro.
Best wishes to you people in Galveston, Houston and all along the Texas Gulf coast.
Roger Ebert- ever think all that vile bile hatred you spew may have some bearing on your shitty health woes? Seems to me that Bob Novak has a much better attitude and outlook to his own impending death.
teri –
Your back-hair is certainly up. That may not be a bad thing. Sometimes it takes a rub the “wrong” way to stimulate thinking.
— 1) We play a little rough around here; that’s just the way it is. 2) Call me wrong, call me stupid, even call me disrespectful if you feel the need; however, falsely characterizing what I have written isn’t cricket. 3) The implication that I was not thinking prior to your challenges is just silly. And, of course, by “rub the wrong way” you’re talking about what John indicated; that you were intentionally being disrespectful in order to provoke a reaction.
“vive la resistance”
Icy Truth (6273ad) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:14 amI like how, when many of the states left up for grabs are rural and also the all important swing states. So many persons of intellect think that to point out that Gov Palin is a hunter, that didn’t go to ivy league schools, that comes from a small town in America, that some how is a negative will lose her votes????
Most of those that find those traits negative already have made up their minds who they will vote in Nov, I would think.
Many of the traits, she seems to have, are valued by Americans.
By showing contempt for those traits you only insult those voters you need, and in this election every vote may very well count.
I esp love the insults about religion when all four running are Christians and Obama has his own, I shall be kind, colorful history with his church background and past leader.
Please keep up the insults about religion it is so smart to do considering most in this country are sill God believers and enjoy so much to hear someone attack anothers religion.
Its so enlightening and refreshing to hear such tolerance these days.
John (20e868) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:19 ammadmax333 —
I used to post at HuffPo, before I realized that it was more fun to hang out here and let them come to me.
Icy Truth (6273ad) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:23 am“Obama’s so educated and intelligent that he thinks there are 57 states. It is ever wonder why there are only 100 senators?”
– Perfect Sense
Really? You really think Obama thinks that?
Leviticus (41975c) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:28 amI know he does not think that but he did SAY that and didn’t bat an eye when doing so.
It was a honest mistake but how kind will the media and the left be when Gov Palin makes a similar gaff.
John (20e868) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:30 am#30 John-
You just don’t get IT. If Obama is not chosen in November, the world will go from hating the Bush dynasty to actually hating Americans. Do you really want that on your conscience? We MUST consider the needs and wants of the Euorweenies, no?
Belmont Club has an interesting link Gazing on the Gorgon http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/ from the great Jonathan Freedland of the Guardian.co.uk ….”The world’s verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for”
Hahaha- who, other than the clueless Obama fellating elite gives a rat’s ass what the Europeans want??? Feck them and the socialist unelected Brussels EU scum that dictates much of their lifestyle rules and regs. Why can’t baracky and his america despising wife resettle over there and rule those obama-adulating ani who don’t even provide for their own defense? If I were running ads, I’d highlight how much Euros want Obama. “If we reject Obama, the rest of the world will hear it.” Big effing whoop dee doo, metrosexual dandy moron. We can’t get past our racism? How come no black PM in England?
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:33 amthe jerk’s address: freedland@guardian.co.uk
He, recently made another mistake by saying ‘My muslim faith’.
Another honest mistake that made sense in context and he quickly corrected himself with the aid of the interviewer.
The man does make mistakes. We all do. I ask again how kind and understanding with the left be if and when Gov Palin makes a mistake such as that.
John (20e868) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:35 amI do care and am already seeing the hate being directed at non supporters of Obama or those ‘stupid morons’ that voted for Bush.
I think if McCain wins there might be violence and I am sure the world or at least the followers of Obama will blame McCain Bush and or those that may be hurt.
I hope it doesn’t happen if McCain wins but there are quite a few people in the world who could care less what I think but seem to think I have to think like they do. I don’t care if someone votes for McCain or Obama but so many may sure get angry at me if I don’t vote for Obama.
John (20e868) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:41 amHis mUslim faith? How about his asshole former preacher the right rev. wright? I’m laughing my ass off right now as rev. wright is actually rev. wrong who took a page from the very rev. jesse jackson’s book by shacking up with a married lady
madmax333 (0c6cfc) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:45 amchurch worker from Dallas. Wright wooed his current wife away from another man in the 80s when the couple came to the church for marriage counseling. The left is so concerned with everything about Mccain and Palin ties to religion and ignores wright’s wrongs and Obama sitting in that church of sin for twenty years. Today’s NY Post has tehs tory. Wright is 67 and the married naiad 37. Ain’t liberal/hate whitey love grand?
I think its sad that the Democratic party seems to be filled with such haters, not all of em mind you.
They go on and on about Bush and McCain being warmongers and yet they seem to be filled with hate and say such violent things.
Ever see Dr. Strangelove when Peter Sellers character says
‘Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here this is the war room!!’
Reminds me of that in some ways.
John (20e868) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:45 amOr how Republicans are involved in scandals but the left are involved in disputes.
Or how the label of R or D is sometimes missing when the scandal involves a Democrat.
I had a friend who said to me. Those Republicans are at it again, I just saw on the news that the Gov of NY may have to step down. What the hell is wrong with the right??
He said he watched 15 minutes of coverage.
I don’t really think many reporters even think they are doing it and honestly think they are not biased.
John (20e868) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:54 amThe Roger Ebert link isn’t working, so I don’t know how satirically he was trying to write, but this,
has got to be the funniest sentence ever written! 🙂
This Other Dana (3e4784) — 9/11/2008 @ 5:20 amIf I was Roger Ebert, I wouldn’t be bringing up the subject of eyeglasses….
http://www.knowcancer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/roger-ebert.jpg
Paul Atreides (0f949e) — 9/11/2008 @ 5:36 amLeviticus:
Nah, I’m sure he thinks there are 114 Senators, or 115 if you count his cousin, **** Cheney.
Xrlq (b71926) — 9/11/2008 @ 5:53 amThe conventional wisdom seems more and more to be that Palin turned this election around. I disagree – the change occurred much earlier, with Obama’s speech in Berlin.
He came home from that hugely successful foreign trip with lots of European votes, but with an American public finally disgusted with his presumption. He has been running downhill ever since.
Amphipolis (fdbc48) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:03 amDoes she really think Adam, Eve, Satan and the dinosaurs mingled on the earth 5,000 years ago?
Creationism yes or no. “Are these the End Times?”
Also, a fair question, in the circumstances.
Why put out a press release about her teenage daughter’s pregnancy and then spend the next few days attacking the press for covering that press release?
Fair Question. She lied about her involvement.
As Troopergate unfolds here — an inquiry into whether Palin inappropriately fired the commissioner of public safety for refusing to fire her ex-brother-in-law — it raises this question: Who else is on her enemies list and what might she do with the F.B.I.?
Fair Question.
Does she want a federal ban on trans fat in restaurants and a ban on abortion and Harry Potter? And which books exactly would have landed on the literature bonfire if she had had her way with that Wasilla librarian?
She enquired about banning books and asked the librarian if she would change her mind if there were protests in the street.
The fact that you’re not disgusted by Palin’s inquires concerns me. Do you defend our constitution?
Palin is applying for a job as our representative. What exactly is the problem? Politcs is messy business.
jar@my home computer (6b0755) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:31 amjar, you misrepresent events. The press covered baseless rumors of her faking her own childbirth.
Amusing how you like to rewrite history so soon.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:33 amHey “PoliticalTruth”, nice (laughable) name you got there. You do realize of course that Governor Palin keeps repeating the “jet fib” just to watch you folks expose your idiocy, right? Read her lips, moron. She says “I PUT it on EBay”, not “I SOLD it on EBay”. Can you distinguish the difference? Good. Now – debunk THAT claim. Sheesh, even the HuffPo admits that one.
rhodeymark (1aaf2a) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:33 amread her lipSTICK, I meant 🙂
rhodeymark (e86321) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:35 amJAR – make my day. Tell me what you will do Nov 4th if The One goes down in flames. The other Palin thread has some idiot named Larry talking tough (No Justice! No Peace!) already.
rhodeymark (4f2403) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:38 am“The press covered baseless rumors of her faking her own childbirth.”
And covered baseless rumors that Obambi was Muslim. And claims that un-american, or not american enough, or just plain weird. Amusing how you like to rewrite history so soon.
So tell me, are you in favor of governments being able to ban books? Or do you just think its a valid question.
jar@my home computer (6b0755) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:59 amIs it a smear for me to ask, considering whom you’re defending?
As Troopergate unfolds here — an inquiry into whether Palin inappropriately fired the commissioner of public safety for refusing to fire her ex-brother-in-law — it raises this question: Who else is on her enemies list and what might she do with the F.B.I.?
Gee, the left could’ve cared less about this when the Clinton’s did it. Why the fuss now? it’s hard to take the left seriously about any of this considering all of the things they accuse Palin of they have done tenfold and defended their heroes, such as Bill and Hillary, tenfold when they did it.
I thought the only sin that existed in a leftist’s mind was hypocrasy, yet that is all they ever do.
If Palin did fire a commissioner who failed to fire a trooper who drove his police car drunk and tasered a 13 year old kid, then I fully support that firing. The facts don’t seem to support that such is what happened, but the left never cares much about facts.
The library banning thing has also been fully debunked. Many of the books on the alleged list weren’t even published at the time.
And, let’s have the press ask some “fair questions” about Obama for a change. What about Rezko, what about Ayers, What about the CAC? How is it that we are over a year into Obama running for president and the press has never investigated or asked any hard questions of Obama?
great banana (e66874) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:04 amThe Library book thing has been easily refuted by the facts. However, I would like to point something out – not carrying certain books in a library is not even remotely the same thing as the gov’t “banning” such books.
Or, do our super genious lefties claim that every library carries every book ever written? If not, are the books that the library does not carry “banned”? Why is it that my local library refuses to carry some conservative books I have asked for? Are those books banned by the gov’t?
Please, you people need to come up with some new stuff. If your best ammo is to worry about our VP candidate (obviously b/c you know O! can’t actually compte with our Presidential candidate), you are in real trouble. Which I like.
great banana (e66874) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:07 amOf course the left has trouble understanding what words mean. Remember, not too long ago they thought sought meant bought.
ROA (924e20) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:12 amThe trolls are pooping up like weeds. It is no use trying to debate with them because they have their talking points and will not be diverted.
Ebert really flamed out. I wonder when his brain tumor will be diagnosed ?
Now it’s Howard Kurtz who is getting unhinged.
“If McCain wins, he’ll face a Democratic Congress that’s beyond furious. Losing is one thing, but after eight years of George Bush and Karl Rove, losing a vicious campaign like this one will cause Dems to go berserk. They won’t even return McCain’s phone calls, let alone work with him on legislation. It’ll be four years of all-out war.
He’s quoting Kevin Drum, who seems to be losing his cool along with the deranged dwarves at Mother Jones. I guess the message is “Elect Obama or else.”
Maybe they will threaten mass suicide. Of course, with Obama’s connections with Ayres maybe it’s more serious than that. Obama seems to have a number of terrorist friends. I wonder how long it will be before the threats accelerate. Sort of like Anbar province.
Mike K (2cf494) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:17 amMoDo’s column is sick and worthy of a trip to a mandatory harassment workshop. Last I recall, making comments about someone’s religion ala “believing man and dinosaurs walked together” is no different than someone writing “Crap, does Obama still believe pancakes grow on trees in America?” or talking about what musical people his “type” is.
This is disgusting behavior that would get anyone else fired in the workplace. I don’t care what newspaper you believe indemnifies you, this sexist, racist, bigoted, anti-religion crap will bury your newspaper.
redherkey (9f5961) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:36 amHow come every election, according to lefties, is the most vicious, vilest, etc., etc., etc. According to the left the right is just horrible and the left is lightness and air.
Can they truly believe this insanity? Do they really believe that their negative ads are not just as low-hitting and nasty? Do they really believe that the things they say and insinuate are not equal to anything any righty says or insinuates during an election?
I mean, how many times can they make this same claim? Will they go to the end of time believing that they have never lost a single campaign on issues, but that every single campaign in the existence of man was “stolen” from them b/c the right “tricked” people with nastiness? Will they ever admit to themselves that just maybe a majority of people don’t agree with them on the issues? Will that ever happen?
great banana (e66874) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:41 amPalin asked the Librarian about pulling books that she had received complaints about. Patterico and WLS know that to be the case.
jar@my home computer (6b0755) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:51 amWhen the lies collapse of their own weight, what do the lefties do ? Why they recycle them, of course, adding a religious angle.
The left is looking pretty pitiful in their efforts here. Anything is good enough to be thrown at the candidate. We’re starting to hear the racism complaint and I expect that will be the chief focus of the last month.
Mike K (2cf494) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:52 amRhodeymark wrote:
What difference does it make what he says he’d do? We still have some guy by the last name of Baldwin who was going to emigrate if George Bush was elected in 2000, and we still can’t get his dead ass to leave! 🙂
I hereby pledge that, regardless of which candidate wins, I will remain a citizen and resident of the United States of America.
The Dana with the beard (3e4784) — 9/11/2008 @ 7:56 am“She’s making any definitive judgments.”
Lil’ Petey again shows his lack of comprehension and understanding of the word “context.”
So I guess if I call him a mendouchey lying crapweasel, I’m really not making any judgements about him, am I?
Dmac (e639cc) — 9/11/2008 @ 8:07 am“Palin is a shallow, chirpy person with those vaguely alarming eyeglasses,
has got to be the funniest sentence ever written!
Comment by This Other Dana — 9/11/2008 @ 5:20 am”
Projection is often funny when taken in context.
Dan S (c77713) — 9/11/2008 @ 8:11 amMan, american politics is so dirty and confusing it feels like watching late night french cable tv on a waltzer. I have no idea what either of candidates policies on anything are. Change? how can they both have “Change” as a policy? Change to what? And how come it’s all about this Palin woman? What happened to that old guy, is he still running?
charles (1046b6) — 9/11/2008 @ 8:13 amEbert has slowly morphed over the past 30 years from a short, fat man to an short, fatter, overbearing, angry, asexual entity. And those hideous windshield – wiper type glasses certainly didn’t help with his presentation.
Dmac (e639cc) — 9/11/2008 @ 8:48 amADAM AND EVE NOT CHIMP AND CHIMP these evolutionists are the biggist ignoramuses around
Krazy Kagu (03d599) — 9/11/2008 @ 9:24 amWorking Link to the Ebert column.
liontooth (0edfdb) — 9/11/2008 @ 9:53 amI have no idea what either of candidates policies on anything are.
charles – You’re doing it wrong.
Thanks for stopping by.
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 9/11/2008 @ 10:13 amJar, I’ll answer that one: yes, I believe that a city has the right to decide what books it will have in the library that it owns, just as you and I have the right to decide what books will be in our private libraries. What makes the “national selection criteria” so holy? Who set them, and what right do they have to dictate to each city that it must follow them? Isn’t that censorship?
The correct answer for the librarian would have been “yes, it’s your library. If I disagree with an instruction you give me I’ll make my case to you and try to persuade you to withdraw it, but at the end of the day I’ll obey any lawful instruction you give me, or resign.”
Milhouse (89df7f) — 9/11/2008 @ 10:54 amGov. Palin is so accomplished, and Dems just hate it. The Bots lost their media star to a real star. Sux.
Somehow she’s a mother, a politician, has a son heading off for duty, nails big wins against established politicos, plays basketball, coached her college team… She probably writes a hell of a movie review, too! Maybe Ebert should watch his job. She could probably fit that into a busy V.P. schedule. Dynamo.
Vermont Neighbor (a066ed) — 9/11/2008 @ 11:22 am^ I can’t wait for Obama to write his next big book and appear on Dancing With The Stars. Who wouldn’t buy that juicy read ?? God, Michelle Obama will be so fired up in November. That trap will open and garbage will spill out. Poppity pop popcorn!
Vermont Neighbor (a066ed) — 9/11/2008 @ 11:26 am“I had a friend who said to me. Those Republicans are at it again, I just saw on the news that the Gov of NY may have to step down. What the hell is wrong with the right??
He said he watched 15 minutes of coverage.”
That is beyond scary. Did you remind him that Oceania has never (or is it ‘always’) been at war with Europa?
Travis Monitor (9e3371) — 9/11/2008 @ 11:32 amStuck on an island, who would you want at your side, MoDo, or Sarah Palin?
Sitting across the diner table, which one?
Going for a walk in the park? Fixing breakfast? Running the government?
Let’s say something very bad happens, like 9/11. Who would you want in charge when the chips are down, and the nation is in peril, MoDo, or Sarah Palin?
MoDo can’t get or keep a man. But, half the men in America, and most of the women, are already in love with Sarah Palin.
Ropelight (921f6e) — 9/11/2008 @ 11:33 am“Rick Davis, campaign manager for John McCain’s presidential bid, insisted that the presidential race will be decided more over personalities than issues during an interview with Post editors this morning.
‘This election is not about issues,’ said Davis”
“yes, it’s your library.”
jar@my home computer (6b0755) — 9/11/2008 @ 11:36 amNo it’s not the Mayor’s library. and choices for inclusion are not the same as choices for removal.
The mayor is not the librarian.
If you want to argue the point feel free, I’m waiting for the A Team on this site to answer the question. As far as I’m concerned you can all make your case for censorship as loudly as you want. Something else for republicans to own.
For those who don’t like Obama, you must have been sleeping not to know that his life has been put through the wrenches in the past 19 months.
What laughable claims!!!
Please tell us what MSM organ is giving us the real story of Obama’s 130 present votes, his Annenberg Ayers collaboration and which journalist has bothered to question Obama over… anything.
Travis Monitor (9e3371) — 9/11/2008 @ 11:38 amThe Ebert piece seems to have been pulled…can’t say as I blame them.
driver (56cdca) — 9/11/2008 @ 11:41 amThe American Idol candidate
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By Roger Ebert
I think I might be able to explain some of Sara Palin’s appeal. She’s the “American Idol” candidate. Consider. What defines an “American Idol” finalist? They’re good-looking, work well on television, have a sunny personality, are fierce competitors, and so talented, why, they’re darned near the real thing. There’s a reason “American Idol” gets such high ratings. People identify with the contestants. They think, Hey, that could almost be me up there on that show!
ROA (924e20) — 9/11/2008 @ 12:03 pmMy feeling is, I don’t want to be up there. I want a vice president who is better than me, wiser, well-traveled, has met world leaders, who three months ago had an opinion on Iraq. Someone who doesn’t repeat bald-faced lies about earmarks and the Bridge to Nowhere. Someone who doesn’t appoint Alaskan politicians to “study” global warming, because, hello! It has been studied. The returns are convincing enough that John McCain and Barack Obama are darned near in agreement.
I would also want someone who didn’t make a teeny little sneer when referring to “people who go to the Ivy League.” When I was a teen I dreamed of going to Harvard, but my dad, an electrician, told me, “Boy, we don’t have the money. Thank your lucky stars you were born in Urbana and can go to the University of Illinois right here in town.”
So I did, very happily. Although Palin gets laughs when she mentions the “elite” Ivy League, she sure did attend the heck out of college. Five schools in six years. What was that about?
And how can you be her age and never have gone to Europe? My dad had died, my mom was working as a book-keeper and I had a job at the local newspaper when, at 19, I scraped together $240 for a charter flight to Europe. I had Arthur Frommer’s $5 a Day under my arm, started in London, even rented a Vespa and drove in the traffic of Rome. A few years later, I was able to send my mom, along with the $15 a Day book.
You don’t need to be a pointy-headed elitist to travel abroad. You need curiosity and a hunger to see the world. What kind of a person (who has the money) arrives at the age of 44 and has only been out of the country once, on an official tour to Iraq? Sarah Palin’s travel record is that of a hopeless provincial.
But some people like that. She’s never traveled to Europe, Asia, Africa, South America or Down Under? That makes her like them. She didn’t go to Harvard? Good for her! There a lot of hockey moms who haven’t seen London, but most of them would probably love to, if they had the dough. And they’d be proud if their kids won a scholarship to Harvard.
Palin is a shallow, chirpy person with those vaguely alarming eyeglasses. Now her fans all want a pair. Remember back when women wore glasses that departed their ears in plastic swoops and swirls? My theory is, anyone who wears glasses that look weird is telling me something I don’t want to know.
I trust the American people will see through Palin’s facade, and save the Republic in November. The most damning indictment against her is that she considered herself a good choice to be a heartbeat away. That shows bad judgment.
“I want a vice president who is better than me”
That seems indicative. He wants a superior, an overlord – a(n Oba)Messiah, if you will – up on a (Greek column) pedestal. Someone to feel inferior to, to reinforce his left-wing guilt complex.
Here in flyover country we hold to the old American viewpoint that we’re just as good as anyone else, even a Vice President.
Dave (391b76) — 9/11/2008 @ 12:26 pm#69
It’s not her library and she has no legal jurisdiction to rule in that area. It’s the people’s library.
How can you not know this?
Librarians get professional training to meet the needs of a community. And by that criteria seek to provide a collection with essential books and resources whether that be Classics for kids in school, how-to’s, philosophy, religion, science, math, technical, the arts, literature, business, job finding resources, periodicals, newspapers, internet… so on and so forth.
It is a place for unfettered and uncorrupted access to knowledge so citizens can make an informed decisions about their lives, jobs, education, who they want to elect, which in a democracy is the obligation and responsibility of every individual.
And librarians go to great pains to provide the best collection they can with the space and budget they’re given. They’re apolitical civil servants. And the books that make up the core of a collection have been vetted over many years by librarians and educators (librarians are educators BTW).
It is as inappropriate, as in WRONG AND ANTI-DEMOCRATIC for any politician, on any level of government, to tell a librarian what books shouldn’t be on the shelves or even ask the possibility of that happening, as it is for a politician to tell a journalist what stories he or she should cover (or how) and how a judge should rule on a case. It is that sacred an obligation.
It tells you something when politicians resort to attacking those institutions.
Palin, to even bring up the subject is unprofessional and best and at worst, malfeasance.
It’s a subtle form of tyranny anyone should be able to see for what it is. But not if you’ve been narcotized by the group think of the creationist branch of Republican party.
You say it’s “her library”. If she becomes VP or , President, will the Constitution be “her Constitution” or the courts be “her courts” or the press be “her press.” No they would not.
To whoever up above wrote that his/her library isn’t stocking certain books I call your bluff. Most libraries will make every effort to acquire a book for a patron, if it is not in the collection through inter-library loan and put it on hold from a library that does have it. Sometimes if they have the funds they might purchase the book and put it into circulation. They’re job is to help you get hold of any book or information that you want and will work hard to make sure that happens. I’m not a librarian anymore, but when I was I treated patrons request for materials with the sacred obligation that it didn’t matter what that book was in anyway and as long as the person was of age, I’d work extremely hard to track down that book and get it into their hands.
Peter (e70d1c) — 9/11/2008 @ 12:42 pmEbert’s here:Ebert on Palin.
If she was preggers when she got married, she probably didn’t think about traveling too much. Even the cheapest flight from Alaska to London is still pretty pricey. And while she was in college, she was probably (just guessing) struggling to pay tuition, etc. Yes, a year abroad would have been nice.
Ebert, ancient crank that he is, forgets that those ultra-cheap flights of the ’70s don’t exist anymore.
Rachel Cohen (dae381) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:26 pm“It’s not her library and she has no legal jurisdiction to rule in that area. It’s the people’s library.”
Peter – She didn’t attempt to rule in that area, she asked a hypothetical question. Who ate your brain?
Why do you persist in bringing up previously debunked smears? Don’t you have better things to do with your time? Why not create a fresh smear of your own?
daleyrocks (d9ec17) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:33 pm“It’s a subtle form of tyranny anyone should be able to see for what it is.”
And our ‘lil Petey knows all about tyranny – but he seems to have missed his educational quotient on the meaning and usage of the word “projection.”
Dmac (e639cc) — 9/11/2008 @ 1:38 pm“Peter – She didn’t attempt to rule in that area, she asked a hypothetical question.”
And if the librarian had agreed with her then the librarian would have betrayed her profession, and the people.
Pat and WLS, I’m still waiting for your opinions on this.
Your peanut gallery doesn’t really matter, but you’re both lawyers- both officers of the court.
And what about the rape kits? Voting while living in a foreclosed house? And just as a matter of corruption in the Interior Dept. how about the refusal to prosecute of clear felonious sexual assault?
Do you have any principles left? This is a question fot PF and WLS.
jar@my home computer (6b0755) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:00 pm…said the Troll who’s displayed no evidence of any.
Dmac (e639cc) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:05 pmSarah Palin is a living saint — the world’s most perfet person. We are not worthy.
David Ehrenstein (961ad1) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:20 pmEbert’s off the deep end. Not surprising. Chi-town libs are the most manic, uncontrolled haters east of San Francisco.
Gov. Palin’s courage and conviction to start a family while young, and keeping her special needs child later in life along with efforts to improve the community and local PTA just far exceed the self-serving movie writing indulgence of Roger Ebert. Really. What an arrogant pig. If she returned to Alaska tomorrow, she’s contributed more to the world with her life and choices, which simply have more substance than Ebert’s eating French bread and brie on $5.00 a day. I trust it’s okay to kick a fool when he’s down.
Stick to your velvet-rope world Mr. Ebert. So sorry in this era of downsizing that your cotton candy journalism and elite condescension merits a paycheck. Truly sad. This is classic:
Such conviction. Such courage! Meanwhile, the Governor is seeing her son off this week as he heads for active duty; I’m sure he can fill her on the international sights that you, Mr. Ebert, don’t give a damn about. What an arrogant and elite old fool, and totally undeserving of the ink-and-inches he wastes on fluff. Someone retire this man, please.
Vermont Neighbor (a066ed) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:23 pmHave you guys DRJ/PF/WLS seen this? The latest development about “voter caging” in Ohio. (Might make a good post.*)
*Link goes to Findlaw.
Peter (e70d1c) — 9/11/2008 @ 3:36 pmPeter, you keep right on ranting like that. No, the library doesn’t belong to “the people”, it belongs to the city that paid for it, and the mayor represents those people. The librarian answers to the mayor and must obey her instructions.
You think you’re impressing somebody by telling us that “been vetted over many years by librarians and educators” and that “BTW librarians are educators”. That is precisely the problem. Librarians and “educators” who have set themselves up as petty dictators, with the right to decide what books the city must buy, regardless of the wishes of that city’s people. Next you’ll tell us that teachers have the right to teach whatever they think appropriate, without interference by the principal or the school board that employs them and pays their wages. Well, librarians and teachers like that need to be fired pronto.
No, a mayor can’t tell a journalist what stories to cover, but the newspaper owner can. And neither a journalist nor a librarian has a “sacred” task; when you talk like that about your former job you just make an ass of yourself. A librarian or a journalist does a job just like a computer programmer or a garbage collector; none of them have any role in government or in “DEMOCRACY”. And the fact that you can talk like that proves how far the disease has spread.
Milhouse (89df7f) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:18 pm“…the world’s most perfet person.”
Not like the Troll – who seems not to have heard of spellcheck or proper grammatical skills.
Dmac (e639cc) — 9/11/2008 @ 4:41 pmjar@his wit’s end foolishly wrote: Pat and WLS, I’m still waiting for your opinions on this.
Your peanut gallery doesn’t really matter, but you’re both lawyers- both officers of the court.
You’re tugging on Superman’s cape, troll. Don’t go there.
L.N. Smithee (b048eb) — 9/11/2008 @ 5:22 pmJAR is absolutely unhinged today. Good Allah.
JD (6a8c0a) — 9/11/2008 @ 5:26 pmJust remember that Roger Ebert sat around the north side of Chicago drunk for many years in places like O’Rourke’s and from what I am told, was a complete ahole. He represents exactly what is wrong with the Suntimes-too many clowns like him and Roper, etc. that think exactly the same way all the while thinking that they are the smartest bunch in the town.
BT (78b929) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:11 pmWhile I am sorry he has been ill, the passing of his gereation will come none too soon.
Amusing that jar thinks that librarian’s are such wonderful professionals. Around here, librarians worry more about making sure that the homeless have easy access to porn on the libraries computers, while parents have to keep their children out of the library to keep from being exposed to them. Our librarians are spending more effort on making sure that law enforcement can’t access criminal suspects library records than making sure that children have access to any books.
SPQR (26be8b) — 9/11/2008 @ 6:23 pm#88 Millhouse
I just feel sorry for you, friend. You have no idea what a gift you’ve been given. Really you’re pitiful in your self created limitation. Wake up. You have more power than you know (and regardless of what you think, we’re not conceding it to petty tyrants like you OR Sarah Palin.)
Read some history and appreciate all that you’
Peter (e70d1c) — 9/12/2008 @ 1:44 amve been given. Don’t be an idiot.
About the book banning.
Gov Palin asked a ‘what if’ question.
OK I’ll keep this simple.
If I go up to a teacher and ask him/her.
“what would happen if I missed the last test”
That doesn’t mean I have missed it, would miss it, or had missed it. OK
What if I would ask a police officer if I would go 30 over the speed limit.
I have committed no crime. I will have not broken any law nor will I till I speed.
If I ask a baseball umpire what would happen if i pined tared my bat to much.
He would not throw me out for cheating would he. I could not or would not get in trouble would I. Asking a question is not committing a misdeed unless you really do subscribe to the Orwellian view of 1984 and thoughts and ideas are crimes and they should be punished. (no further action was taken by Gov Palin so the questions were just that questions of a what if nature)
Pretty lame reason to say she would have banned simply by asking a what if question.
Reminds me of the ‘McCain is ignorant bout email and computers’ This one really pissed me of, being disabled myself. McCain has severe injuries to his body and it is not that he wont learn to use computers he can’t use a keyboard or mouse his hands do not function well that use of those is very hard if not impossible.
Wow like if wrote about Bob Dole “and he never learned to write with his right hand and is never seen using it”
Another war injury.
They think, on the left, that they attack a powerful faceless monster (the GOP,Palin,McCain etc) They, including news media, are making this personal for many Americans. Sure…. this will get you votes…good luck with that.
John (20e868) — 9/15/2008 @ 1:47 amUpdate on the MoDo smear of Palin.
Interesting:
Palin allies are suing to halt the trooper probe.
Yeah they are claiming that this is a “McCarthyistic” inquisition.
It’s amazing that “McCarthyistic” Democrats were able to file charges against Palin prior to her being named V.P. They must be psychics or something.
What’s that you say? 3 of the 5 “McCarthyistic”‘s were Republicans?
What a sham 🙁
Oiram (983921) — 9/16/2008 @ 4:16 pm