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L.A. Times: Palin is Quayle

Filed under: 2008 Election,Dog Trainer — Patterico @ 8:25 am

Could the L.A. Times‘s desperation be any more obvious?

It’s all about the narrative.

79 Responses to “L.A. Times: Palin is Quayle”

  1. Coming soon, I’m sure, “Before Barrack Obama, the DNC had Jimmy Carter.” No, eh? That’s surprising.

    andycanuck (10f327)

  2. That was a long time ago when the MSM had complete control of our information. Bush/Quayle still won. Now the hacks don’t even know whether they’ll bring home a paycheck, to buy food and pay the mortgage with, a week from now.

    nk (21731d)

  3. Well, the Dems are running two vice-presidents….

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  4. Say, who was the VP candidate who ran against Quayle? Lloyd Benson? I bet Quayle’s name still polls higher.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  5. And we won’t even talk about Sargent Shriver.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  6. How about, “Before Biden, the Dems had John Edwards.”

    Do you think for a minute that would ever be published?

    short term memory (9c2280)

  7. Yeah, Slimes, Before Palin, the GOP had Dan Quayle.

    How’d that work out for George H.W. Bush?

    L.N. Smithee (b048eb)

  8. One thing that sealed Quayle’s fate was when the MSM started bashing him Bush41’s staff joined in. Off the record of course. Very different from what McCain did when he got furious at the press for their bashing Palin.

    I kind of suspect in Quayle’s case that the instigator of it all was Jim Baker, the campaign manager, for Bush41. He doesn’t like you then G_d help you!

    tps (0ae39c)

  9. To be fair to Quayle, he had actually had a thicker resume than the Chosen One does right now. Unfortunately, Quayle was like a possum in the headlights when the cameras got pointed at him.

    physics geek (6669a4)

  10. re Quayle…
    I wouldn’t be surprised that Dan Qualye, in whatever endeavors he has pursued since ’92, has accomplished more for his community than all of the CO’s in Cook Co, let alone The One.

    Another Drew (faec8a)

  11. Quayle was kind of an empty suit – that had all the makings of Bush’s personal FU to his advisors and the press, IMHO. But as for Palin, please, oh pretty please – keep up this latest line of attack. Another classic set – up for The Barracuda to sink her teeth into.

    Dmac (874677)

  12. Looks like nobody has told the LA Times that they don’t control the news cycle anymore.

    Cicero (8db983)

  13. The narrative then was that Dan Quayle couldn’t spell “potato” and was thus too stupid to be VP. Of course, that was before spell check.

    Now, the narrative is the Democrat Party’s nominee for POTUS is really only qualified for patronage positions in Illinois City and State government, and he’s built a shady record for fast and loose Real Estate dealing. Plus, he’s considered a bit swell-headed to have two autobiographies in print and never had a real job.

    Ropelight (49e412)

  14. ^^#6 above. Yes. Perfect. With a pic of Edwards
    with that “other guy’s child”

    Jimzinsocal (52b843)

  15. Asked where he stands on one of the debates of the week — whether Palin has the experience to be second-in-command — Quayle offered a politic answer. “She will have a lot of knowledge by Jan. 20,” he said, referring to inauguration day. “She will not have practical experience on Jan. 20, but she will gain that starting on Day One.”

    What do you want to bet that in the full quote Dan Quayle also noted that Obama and Biden won’t have any practical experience by January 20, but that part of it somehow got left out by the reporter or her editors?

    JVW (d54fc4)

  16. Media bias against Palin, what media bias?
    The slimes is just being itself. Please keep being yourself, please….

    J. Raymond Wright (d83ab3)

  17. I foresee a Billary-Palin celebrity deathmatch in 2012, or 2008, if grampy Mac keels over before then.

    Somebody should do a YouTube vid parody, with Bill Clinton coming back from 2013 as the Terminator, knocking on doors and asking, “Sarah Palin?” Instead of running into the house, chased by the laser sights of a Glock, she pulls a Marine combat knife from the sheath strapped to her thigh, and buries it in his crotch, twists, then rinse and repeat. Cut to Bill writhing in agony on the front doorstep, just before the business end of a hockey stick is planted in his brain…. twitching corpse… fade to rippling red white and blue and the chorus from Heart’s “Barracuda”.

    Born Free (6d00ac)

  18. k, so I can’t count by fours, and/or don’t know what year it is. other than that, it’s my comment, and I’m sticking to it.

    Born Free (6d00ac)

  19. On the other hand, some of the media attacks are very funny, and just reveal the bizarre fact that these folks don’t listen to themselves, let alone think before writing:

    Spelling is a problem with some cranks, as we have seen before.

    To be sure, Whoopi Goldberg isn’t precisely a deep thinker (she did Jumpin’ Jack Flash, after all).

    Here is my favorite bit:

    This is a very dangerous woman, because I believe for her intents and purposes, she’s OK if everybody lives a certain way, that is to say, the way God ordained men and women to be. Well, already she’s breaking that because she’s the daddy. She’s going to run the country and the husband is going to take care of the kids. I just found the whole thing sad and very musty and very much like a Bund rally, but maybe that was just me.”

    Leaving aside the breathtaking sexism and the lack of awareness of Obama-worship…perhaps she was talking about cakes instead of Nazi rallies.

    Eric Blair (2708f4)

  20. Who doesn’t love a frosty Bund cake?

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  21. Has the LA Times reported its operating budget to the FEC as an in kind contribution to the DNC?

    Ken Hahn (6b4ba8)

  22. Quayle was/is a solid conservative who keeps getting a bad rap. Every time we snap at the “Quayle: What A Loser” bait, we reinforce the false meme.

    gp (72be5d)

  23. “… he was a grizzled veteran compared with Palin.”


    Mike S (d3f5fd)

  24. Quayle knew how many states there were, even if he couldn’t spell.

    Kevin Murphy (805c5b)

  25. *Shrug*

    Quayle served as vice President.

    That is an OK path for Palin to follow.

    As some newspaper said the other day:

    Quayle? Isn’t he the fellow that mis-spelled “potatoe”?

    Larry Sheldon (86b2e1)

  26. Forgive the desperation of the LAT. If the GOP wins, they will complete their death spiral. Their only hope is for a Democratic victory, so they are pulling out all the stops on an all-or-nothing gamble.
    My personal opinion: somewhere about the middle of 2009, there won’t be anyone left in the newsroom to lay off, and the publisher is going to force the editors to start drawing straws.

    great unknown (b751d2)

  27. Before The Messiah there was J. F. Kerry.
    Before Obama there was Dukakis.
    Before Biden there was (Biden before brain surgery).

    dfbaskwill (beb902)

  28. What does it say when the only thing you can find to criticize a person for is that he once misspelled a word. Interesting that today he’s the president of an international investment firm in Phoenix. Do you think it takes any brain power to do that?

    jwarner (0c2175)

  29. If the LAT is out of business before the next Dem president tries to set up his own version of Pravda or Isvestia they will miss their opportunity to continue in some sort of existence. Of course they are pulling out all the stops – it’s their only chance to survive.

    quasimodo (edc74e)

  30. mis-spelled a word…
    Except, by following the rules of the “Spelling Bee”, he compared the spelling of “potato” by the student, to the spelling of “potatoe” that was on the “correct” card handed to him by a teacher.

    Just who was it that made the spelling error?

    Another Drew (faec8a)

  31. The LA Times is a joke. Why anybody would read this commie pile of crap is beyond me.

    Mike Metro (4d8cd2)

  32. Born Free wrote: Somebody should do a YouTube vid parody, with Bill Clinton coming back from 2013 as the Terminator, knocking on doors and asking, “Sarah Palin?”

    Great (or sick) minds think alike. As I watched the media jackals smirk about Palin, circulate wild rumors and descend on Alaska scrounging for enemies (notice how they seem to have found all the haters in the first few days?), I thought of Schwarzenegger saying “Sarah Connor?” and trying to kill her before she irreversibly changed history.

    L.N. Smithee (b048eb)

  33. Some day they will ask, “Isn’t Obama that fellow that thought we had 58 states?”

    Mallard T. Drake (bbb38e)

  34. Before Obama, the Left had Guevera.

    u-c (54abae)

  35. gp wrote: Quayle was/is a solid conservative who keeps getting a bad rap. Every time we snap at the “Quayle: What A Loser” bait, we reinforce the false meme.

    Amen, bro. I have a detailed post that apparently is in filter purgatory that outlines his true enduring legacy.

    L.N. Smithee (b048eb)

  36. Before Obama the dems had Jackson or Sharpton.

    community organizers.

    Racist. I denounce myself.

    quasimodo (edc74e)

  37. I love the L.A. Times because it is so subtle and witty. I’m sure Sam Zell will want to give a BIG raise to folks who can produce work of such outstanding quality .

    mr. burns (a5d69b)

  38. I retract/modify my prediction in #26. Somewhere about the beginning of 2009, the LAT, the NYT, and others of that ilk are going to start lobbying Congress for subsidies to maintain “these Great American Cultural Icons”; i.e., mouthpieces for the Democratic Party.

    great unknown (b751d2)

  39. Memo to LA Times….yes, the GOP had Quayle as a VP candidate in 1988 and you mocked and ridiculed him every day.

    Yet, when I look at the histoyy books, I don’t find any listing of “President Dukakis.”

    Darwin Akbar (11823f)

  40. To be sure, Whoopi Goldberg isn’t precisely a deep thinker (she did Jumpin’ Jack Flash, after all).

    Eric, not to defend Whoopi but have you actually ever seen Jumpin’ Jack Flash? It was no classic to be sure, but it was actually a halfway decent, somewhat funny spy spoof with a definite (hold on to your hats folks) pro-American, anti-Soviet storyline.

    I saw it at the Cerritos UA in 1986 on a double bill with Stand By Me, which I expected to love. I ended up enjoying Flash about ten times more than Stand.

    qdpsteve (dc65ab)

  41. qdpsteve wrote:

    Eric, not to defend Whoopi but have you actually ever seen Jumpin’ Jack Flash? It was no classic to be sure, but it was actually a halfway decent, somewhat funny spy spoof with a definite (hold on to your hats folks) pro-American, anti-Soviet storyline.

    Jumpin’ Jack Flash wasn’t bad, but it isn’t a favorite of mine. The best thing about the movie was the theme song, recorded by Aretha Franklin, Keith Richards, and Steve Jordan on drums (video here).

    She’s one of those actors who is always on a short list when someone of (ahem) her type is required. She has her share of belly flops, and then gets a big hit that revives her Q rating (Ghost, Made In America, Sister Act) If you want really bad Whoopi movies, there are plenty to choose from: Burglar, Fatal Beauty, Kiss Shot, Eddie, The Associate, Doogal, Bogus, Theodore Rex (partial list).

    L.N. Smithee (0931d2)

  42. It was 1989 that the MSM and the late night comics started the meme that Dan Quale could not spell potatoe. Under the rules of the National Spelling Bee, Dan Quale was required to accept the spelling of the words as written on the 3X5 cards. The person at the New Jersey middle school who was responsible for making up the cards used the English variation “potatoe” not the American variation “potato.” Dan Quale had no option – he could only accept “potatoe” and was required to call “potato” incorrect. Instead, he gave the contestant a hint and the contestant responded with the English version. In the more than nineteen years since the spelling bee, no one, not Jay Leno, David Letterman or any other person who proclaimed “Dan Quale cannot spell “potato,” has admitted their error.

    longwalker (d671ab)

  43. Kevin Murphy wrote: Say, who was the VP candidate who ran against Quayle? Lloyd Benson? I bet Quayle’s name still polls higher.

    The late Lloyd Bentsen is remembered solely for that one great zinger at Quayle: “…Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.”

    Quayle is used by the MSM as a punch line, because of his frequent malapropisms (IMHO, GWB is worse than Quayle ever was) and misspelling of the word “potato,” but the fact of the matter is that his legacy is making the term “family values” part of the American lexicon.

    It was Quayle who first used the term in a speech at the Commonwealth Club of San Francisco after his visit to a community center in the city’s crime-ridden Bay View/Hunter’s Point neighborhood. There were many children present, there were the children’s mothers, and grandmothers. “Where are the fathers?” Quayle said. After Quayle referenced popular sitcom Murphy Brown as a bad cultural influence on young women after the show’s main character — a middle-aged TV reporter played by Candice Bergen — got pregnant out of wedlock, he was pilloried by the media and entertainment elite. But as the years went by, “family values” endured as a quality that candidates in both parties assured the electorate that they possessed.

    Eventually, even the staunchly liberal Bergen herself admitted that Quayle was right.

    As for the “potato” incident…William Figueroa, the then 12-year-old who spelled the word correctly, got his Warholian fifteen minutes. He appeared on Late Night with David Letterman, led the Pledge of Allegiance at the 1992 DNC Convention, and endorsed a spelling video game and a Puerto Rican potato vendor. However, by the age of sixteen, Figueroa was a high school dropout and a single father.

    More on the aftermath of Figueroa’s life in this NY Times article from 2004.

    (Pat – This is my second attempt at posting this. Here goes.)

    L.N. Smithee (0931d2)

  44. Uh…longwalker? Q-U-A-Y-L-E. (Sigh)

    L.N. Smithee (0931d2)

  45. Much as I don’t like Whoopi, she was great on Star Trek…

    What? Don’t you judge me…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  46. The Potatoe story is of a piece with the George HW Bush story about the supermarket scanner. Both were lies showing that the MSM was in the tank for the Dems in 1988. But, remember who won the election.

    The other theme the Dems are trying is to talk about Eagleton, as if she is going to withdraw. I don’t mind this. I suspect it will be retired after she yanks Biden’s beating heart out of his chest at the debate.

    MIke K (155601)

  47. Despite Mr. Quayle’s less than epic historic image, it would do the LA Times some good to recall who actually won the election that year.

    ArrMatey (f7f19b)

  48. Good thing we have the L.A. Times for this salient, breaking news.

    dbuel (c8b19b)

  49. And guess what, Bush and Quayle won!

    Can anyone name the losers?
    Answer: Democrats Micheal Dukakis and his vice-presidential candidate was Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas.

    Sally Frank (04c2de)

  50. I remember Lloyd Bensen;
    Lloyd Bensen was a friend of mine;
    and, you sir, are much better than that hack.

    Another Drew (faec8a)

  51. I’d like to thank Mike K. for the link to the spin at the Caribou Barbie site.

    David Ehrenstein (961ad1)

  52. Bigger picture:

    The comments noting the 1988 result only highlight that the LAT and other pushing this meme never learned that focusing on the VP pick is not effective.

    Moreover, now that we are more fully in the Information Age, it is much harder for MSM outlets like the LAT to Quayle-ize Palin. Tens of millions saw her speak and are not going to buy it, absent some ginormous gaffe.

    The people who came up with this story and greenlit it for publication are the dinosaurs wandering around in the clouds after the asteroid hit — and they don’t even know it.

    Karl (f07e38)

  53. Before Obama, DNC had McGovern.


    JR (ce0339)

  54. You’d think the dog trainer LAT might look a bit into Baracky the magic negro’s past as a CO instead of being obsessed so much with Palin’s alleged failings.

    Thought Belmont Club had an interesting insight into what Barack won’t tell you about his community organizer past. The story is actually from New Republic, but I’d rather link to pj media. http://pajamasmedia/.com/richardfernandez/

    And the word was made flesh. Obama didn’t want to be a loser and unhappy like his dad. The pay was too low and it didn’t work.
    Hey, RNC how about highlighting that Obama talking point? COs want respect. Why should they be immune to criticism if a small town mayor can be denigrated as a vocation? Because many of them are minority liberal extortionate pond scum?

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  55. The LAT has no interest in finding out what BHO did as a CO. It might dredge up uncomfortable questions re their relationship with Mayor TonyV, who IIRC was a CO and union-organizer.

    Another Drew (faec8a)

  56. Joe Biden has been in the Senate for 35 years, but the crack vetting team at the Los Angeles Times has yet to unearth a single negative, critical, or unflattering thing to print about Joe’s political career. The Times was reduced to running a story about how “Regular Joe” likes to putter in his garden. That’s very impressive, especially considering how much information the Times has managed to dig up about Sarah Palin’s short career.

    It’s very comforting to know that if Obama/Biden wins the election and an administration led by these two saints somehow steps out of line, it will quickly be put in check by Biden’s former colleagues in the Democrat-controlled Congress and hard-nosed, non-partisan journalists. I’m sure we’ll get many more hard-hitting pieces on Biden’s gardening habits in the next four years.

    Keep rockin’ guys!

    Aldo (4ca181)

  57. Palin is to Quayle as Alito is to Bork.

    The liberal MSM will try the smears and the put-downs against conservatives and Republicans, but it wont work anymore. We’ve been on to their game and they arent the monopoly anymore. They fail in the 2000s what they were able to do back then thanks to internet, blogs and free flow of information. US magazine has had a huge backlash on their smears.

    37 million people watched her home run performance. Palin is now having MORE FAVORABLES than the other 3 on the tickets. Joe Biden should be very worried right now, the liberals were thinking Palin would get smoked in that debate, but I dont think a “JFK was a friend of mine” crack would work on Palin, and gaffe-prone Joe could easily step in it.

    Maverick / Barracuda ’08

    Why John McCain should be President:

    Travis Monitor (9e3371)

  58. Unfair to castigate the L.A. Times when the comparison in question says this: (Taken from said article):

    “It sure sounded familiar,” Dan Quayle chuckled, his voice coming over the telephone line from Phoenix, 20 years and a lifetime away from the explosion of shock and negative news stories that greeted his ascension to the vice presidential nomination, as it has hers.

    The article even states “negative news stories” (written by times, not Quayle)

    Everyone please read the article with an open mind.

    You guys really like to reach.

    Oiram (ee061e)

  59. typo, sorry


    John Judis, who wrote the NR piece, claims that another and unstated reason was that Obama believed that POLITICIANS and not community orgainzers made history. His OWN private words and deeds are polar opposite to what he says in public. As the first commenter there points out, The ONe! seems to have perfected hypocisy as an art form. Not that the likes of jharp, lovesobamatron and others here give a damn about the big null’s hypocrisy.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  60. For you dolts who think Quayle was a “stuffed shirt, this, from wikipedia (it was REAL hard to find): In 1976, Quayle was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives from Indiana’s Fourth Congressional District, defeating eight-term incumbent Democrat J. Edward Roush. He won reelection in 1978 by the greatest percentage margin ever achieved to that date in the northeast Indiana district. In 1980, at age 33, Quayle became the youngest person ever elected to the U.S. Senate from the state of Indiana, defeating three-term incumbent Democrat Birch Bayh. Making Indiana political history again, Quayle was reelected to the Senate in 1986 with the largest margin ever achieved to that date by a candidate in a statewide Indiana race. His 1986 victory was notable because several other Republican Senators elected in 1980 were not returned to office.

    Basically, he kicks Obama’s ass up and down on experience. But he loses on the deer-in-headlights thing.

    Viktor (c27b7c)

  61. When I was a little kid, we lined the garbage pail with the Los Angeles Times.

    They don’t have garbage pails[1] anymore, why do they need the Los Angeles Times?

    [1] “Recycling” is so 1950’s. We burned what burned, put the cans and bottles in a barrel to be picked up (and sent to Japan to be made into toys and stuff), and put the food wasted in the garbage can which the city (read: the taxpayers) paid to have hauled to Newhall to be fed to Frank Bonelli’s hogs.

    Larry Sheldon (86b2e1)

  62. Before Reaganomics, America had slavery. Before Angela Merkel, the Germans had Hitler. Hey, this is fun!

    Xrlq (b71926)

  63. Joe Biden has been in the Senate for 35 years, but the crack vetting team at the Los Angeles Times has yet to unearth a single negative, critical, or unflattering thing to print about Joe’s political career.

    I’d say any news organization that mentions Palin’s daughter but fails to mention Joe Biden’s sons lobbying activities and possible conflict of interests for Senator Joe Biden is ipso facto in the tank.

    Travis Monitor (9e3371)

  64. Larry Sheldon,

    I remember those days. I remember that Sam Yorty campaigned on those issues. We dismantled our incinerator and used it for stepping stones in our garden.

    steve miller (3c2c90)

  65. There is another article in the LAT today (by Matea Gold) which basically pooh-poohs the complaint that the MSM coverage of Palin has been unfair. Gold’s slant would be a lot more convincing if the media were not still peddling lies cooked up at DAILYKOS.

    Aldo (4ca181)

  66. Obama or Hot Mama?

    Sorry, Obama.

    Mike Metro (4d8cd2)

  67. L. N. Smithee : Thank you for the correction. At 70, spelling names is the second thing to go.

    Viktor : The Washington press corps, prior to Quayle being nominated as vice-president, listed him as superior to his contemporaries, Gore and Kerry.

    longwalker (d671ab)

  68. Aldo wrote: There is another article in the LAT today (by Matea Gold) which basically pooh-poohs the complaint that the MSM coverage of Palin has been unfair.

    A commenter at Michelle Malkin’s site wrote yesterday that the MSM is like the World Wrestling Federation back in its glory days of the eighties with Hulk Hogan, Macho Man Randy Savage (and the lovely Elizabeth), Jesse “The Body” Ventura, King Kong Bundy, etc. It wasn’t wrestling at all, it was choreographed mayhem, and everybody knew it, but nobody in the business would never dare admit it.

    John Stossel, doing a report on how the WWF was fake for ABC’s 20/20, got smacked in the side of his head so hard his ears bled. And that’s what the Drive-Bys do when you challenge them: Smack you upside the head, using their power to say nobody who questions them knows what they’re talking about.

    L.N. Smithee (0931d2)

  69. Wasn’t Dan Quayle VP from 88-92? Way to think it through, LAT!


    furious (56af6d)

  70. Is it possible to flag Ehrenstein’s IP address so that all of his posts read “Idiocy by”?

    Icy Truth (6e6d48)

  71. #59 – Oiram

    Unfair to castigate the L.A. Times
    — But it is fair to castrate . . . what? Are you sure? ‘Cause I . . . really? Damn. . . . Okay, ‘dude’; you’re off the hook (so to speak) for now.

    The article even states “negative news stories” (written by times, not Quayle)
    — Yeah, admitting that they did it before somehow justifies doing it again.

    Everyone please read the article with an open mind.
    — Everyone please read Oiram’s posts with an open beer.

    You guys really like to reach.
    — You, guy, really makes us retch.

    Icy Truth (6e6d48)

  72. Is it possible to flag Ehrenstein’s IP address so that all of his posts read “Idiocy by”?

    It’s implied.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  73. This comparison is not smart – the uninformed will lap it up. Everyone still remembers VP Potatoe

    Palin is about personality. Keep to that

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  74. Apparently the obama campaign now has women pushing the meme that McCain-Palin is bad for abortion choice as his picks for SCOTUS would overturn roe v wade and send women back to back alley butchers. Of course they are fecking clueless bimbos in any case and don’t fathom that individual states would make the abortion rights’ decisions. You can expose Obama for the worthless piece of dung beetle he is and still the libs want to suck him off.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  75. Using the term “bimbos” is a bad move also

    i like america (f4c1e0)

  76. i loathe you, they are ignorant twatwaffles. The truth hurts, logic and the transparent duplicity of obumbler and the media seem to have so many of your sheeple hypnotized. But I love what the big Zero will do to these evil greedy ass neocons. His death tax plans would be improved if the rate was 90%. And why not make any real estate gains taxed at some equally exhorbitant rate instead of capital gains. Great to remove the $500k exemption though. We need to help the needy raise their standard of living. It isn’t right that all those poor people in NOLA still don’t have decent homes worth at least $500 k each. If all people had access to free health care, decent housing, adequate nutrition and enlightened marxist education, crime would plummet, health would bloom and obesity vanish. Give all those minorities oppressed by evil Rethulicans a voucher each for an Escalade and one other benefit would be a thriving Detroit auto industry. Yes, I know Caddy is GM, but we can give the underclass option to own Chrysler and Ford products also.
    We must assure that Obama wins or else, like that wonderful Philly paper columnist asserts, there WILL be a race war and whitey will pay dearly. Obama/Biden forever!! Hope! Change! Waters receding/planet healing…Bush/Cheney in chains and hopefully sentenced to death for war crimes against humanity. Peace out!

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  77. @madmax333

    I didn’t read that rambling diatribe

    /You got pwned

    Anonytroll (edae44)

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