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9/4/2008

Your Official Leftist Anti-Palin Talking Points

Filed under: 2008 Election,General — Patterico @ 12:06 am



Here are your leftist talking points in response to Sarah Palin’s speech. They fall into three main categories:

1. “Look over there!”: Ha, ha, Bristol’s boyfriend is marrying her but he doesn’t really want to! It’s a shotgun wedding!

If you go to some of these sites, it seems like this is all they’ve got. Pathetic, really. Even as mere comedy it doesn’t work.

Cretins like this don’t get links.

2. Sexism (of course): My, that’s a lovely speech she gave — but she didn’t write it!

This is true. As it happens, I have met Matthew Scully, the man who wrote tonight’s speech. He’s a hell of a nice guy. He and I spent an afternoon some weeks back addressing some schoolkids about what we do for a living.

He is a Republican, an environmentalist, and a vegan. He loved the fact that my wife and 8-year-old daughter are both vegetarians on principle. (The boy, by contrast, likes his meat — like Daddy.)

(Why the organizer thought it would be a good idea to couple him (a guy who has written speeches for Presidents and interacted with them on a daily basis) with me (a podunk blogger and a local prosecutor), I have no idea. But I wasn’t complaining. It was fascinating listening to his stories.)

But here’s the thing. Who wrote Joe Biden’s speech?

For some reason, nobody asks this question.

By the way: I fooled you there, didn’t I? You thought I was going to ask: “Who wrote Barack Obama’s speech?” Because for some reason, Our Vice-Presidential nominee keeps getting compared to their Presidential nominee. It’s the weirdest thing, but everyone keeps doing it . . . on both sides of the political spectrum.

But I’m going to be stubborn here, and compare apples to apples — even if I’m comparing a deliciously tart (soon-to-be) Granny Smith with a fur-encrusted, smarmy old Braeburn.

Anyway, do you know who wrote Biden’s speech? I don’t — but I’m fairly confident that Biden didn’t write it, since 1) politicians never write their own speeches, and 2) Biden, of all people, seems to have a special problem coming up with his own words . . .

Ask yourself: why was every talking head tonight emphasizing the fact that Sarah Palin’s speech was written by a speechwriter? I’m happy to see Matt get his props, but it is a little odd, no?

3. Accidental honesty: Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy talked on a hot mike about how the Palin nomination is a disaster. Here’s how the L.A. Times Top of the Ticket Blog puts it:

Murphy terms the Palin pick “cynical;” Noonan says it means the race is “over” (and presumably not in a favorable way for her party).

Well, yes and no. Or at least, yes and possibly no.

Here’s the thing. They clearly do discuss the fact — and it’s a fact — that Palin is not the Most Qualified Candidate (or even the Most Qualified Woman).

That is, depending on your definition of “Qualified.”

Does Sarah Palin have the best combination of personal qualities and life story to help John McCain win? I think she does.

It reminds me of how, in a narrow sense, Clarence Thomas was not the most “Qualified” Supreme Court nominee, in the sense that people thought Bush Sr. meant when he made that claim. But what if he meant something different? What if he meant: this is the right candidate at the right time — someone who I can count on to be the type of nominee I want him to be; who won’t shift with the prevailing winds; whose principles line up with mine?

In that sense, Clarence Thomas may well have been the Most Qualified Candidate — and he has certainly turned out to be a fine Justice. Some say the best (I still like Nino, but Thomas runs a close second, and sometimes edges Nino out).

Similarly, in a very real sense, I think Sarah Palin was the Most Qualified Candidate in terms of providing the mix of characteristics that John McCain needs to win. She provides energy, excitement, and charisma — and backs it up with strong principles, a Reaganesque optimism, sunny confidence, and unwavering competence.

Some people might call it “cynical” to seek out that mix of attributes — and it appears clear that Murphy (whom I have nothing against; I have also met him, and like him a lot) and Noonan were doing that. Admittedly so.

But this other part — the part where Noonan supposedly says “It’s over” with reference to McCain’s campaign — well, Noonan doesn’t use the word “race” when she says it’s over. And she says that’s not what she meant in context. She gives a detailed explanation here.

Now, the question is: is that explanation 1) spin to cover up an embarrassingly honest opinion — 2) a true account of what she meant? To me it has the ring of truth, but consider this:

I find it veeeerrrrrry strange that the context is missing. That whatever anonymous person provided this diced-up clip to news organizations, apparently deliberately omitted a good deal of the discussion that immediately preceded the “it’s over” comment. Is there a reason for this omission? I suspect there was.

After watching Gov. Palin’s speech tonight, however, I’m not even worried about whether Noonan is trying to cover her tracks or not. I’m more inclined to go along with the response of the McCain camp on this:

“Who cares?”

So those are your talking points. Here’s my conclusion:

I’ve been very pessimistic about this race. I have bets with two people against a McCain victory. I still think I’ll collect. I’m a pessimist. I admire optimists, but I’m not one of them.

But for the first time, folks, I actually think I might not collect on those bets.

For the first time, I actually think we just might win. I’m not saying we will. But we might.

And hey. That’s a good feeling.

91 Responses to “Your Official Leftist Anti-Palin Talking Points”

  1. It’s sexism of course. She had to have a man write her speech for her.

    Icy Truth (6189a6)

  2. Sarah Palin tonight discussed the fact that she’s not a ‘Washington insider’. In keeping with the theme of your post, I think that may prove to be the most important qualification that she possesses.

    This election is not about ‘experience’. It’s about changing the game.

    Palin is the only game changer running for office, which is why I support her ticket. There was absolute certainty in her voice about being an ‘advocate’ for special needs children in the White House. I do not believe her energy and focus ends with that one issue.

    Apogee (366e8b)

  3. Biden writes copies all his own speeches.

    Unlike Biden, Palin wouldn’t take credit for someone else’s work.

    Every time this stupid question comes up, it presents a perfect time to introduce the Biden plagiarism story, once again.

    PC14 (ec0516)

  4. I would have a lot to say about the speech but I am too lazy to type it out, but I do have one issue.

    What was with all the mockery and sarcasm, and the groaning and giggles on the floor, when she pounded home the fact that Obama was a community organizer?

    Isn’t that a good thing? Aren’t all the delegates on the floor (apart from the super delegates there by virtue of elective office) community organizers? And people involved in their churches, and neighborhood groups, and local charities community organizers? And when she touted her PTA experience, isn’t that being a community organizer?

    I just found that part very weird and disorienting. A Harvard Law Review editor turns down the certain big bucks from any number of law firms to spend some years trying to do good in the community for little pay, and the entire GOP seems to mock it. This form of public service is mocked, while Palin’s public service as a city council member and mayor of a tiny town is praised because — her paycheck came from the government, I guess? I don’t know.

    I actually was kind of fond of the first President Bush for a couple of reasons, one of them being his Thousand Points of Light theme of the value of public service that is not tied to public office or payroll. Odd that the GOP has gone so far not only to reject the idea but mock those who choose to serve the public that way.

    Aplomb (b6fba6)

  5. Making a bet on the candidate you hate does seem like a good idea. At least if he wins, you get something out of it.

    LYT (b67340)

  6. Exactly. I love betting against myself.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  7. I just found that part very weird and disorienting. A Harvard Law Review editor turns down the certain big bucks from any number of law firms to spend some years trying to do good in the community for little pay, and the entire GOP seems to mock it. This form of public service is mocked, while Palin’s public service as a city council member and mayor of a tiny town is praised because — her paycheck came from the government, I guess? I don’t know.

    I think it was a reaction to “you’re just a former small-town mayor.” OK, then: you’re just a former community organizer.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  8. … fond of the first President Bush . . .one of them being his Thousand Points of Light theme

    That was you? I’m going to call him and tell him.

    I bet you have a free dinner coming.

    Apogee (366e8b)

  9. I actually was kind of fond of the first President Bush for a couple of reasons, one of them being his Thousand Points of Light theme of the value of public service that is not tied to public office or payroll.

    I wonder if Matt Scully wrote that line too. I’ll have to ask him next time I see him.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  10. Patterico #7 & Aplomb #4 – I think it was a reaction (and a very good one) to the comparison of experience between Palin and Obama coming from the Obama/Biden campaign.

    Obama touts his community organizing, yet mocks Palin as a ‘small town’ mayor. What she was alluding to was that in a small town, and especially a small town, you have specific responsibilities, and everyone in that small town knows it and will hold you accountable.

    Not so for a community organizer, who is part of a larger organization attempting to ‘improve’ the ‘community’ in a general sense, often by granting funds. Not much opposition to that.

    It was not meant to disparage community organizing, but to contrast the level of accountability and responsibility between the two positions.

    Incredibly sharp, as it underscored Obama’s lack of executive experience. His keeping to the shadows during his political career is beginning to cause consternation.

    Apogee (366e8b)

  11. For example, the conversation could have been about who they would have picked, but the deed is done and the discussion is “over.”

    I wonder if this thing was spliced. It is MS NBC after all, who are more biased than Dan Rather.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  12. Sadly, this only scratches the surface. They are going nuts:

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=836304396

    More:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/115317/602/516/580193

    They’ve gone mad.

    androo (b51e22)

  13. Oops, wrong link.

    Here:
    http://www.politico.com/static/PPM106_palin_doc.html

    Do these people ever sleep?

    androo (b51e22)

  14. Interesting that the Kos story has as its only links the adn paper site. Seems like they should have checked a little harder.

    And also from the adn, after her victory for Governor of Alaska:
    Voters chose change over experience Tuesday night, making Republican Sarah Palin Alaska’s next governor and the first woman to hold the job.

    Looks like another old script.

    Apogee (366e8b)

  15. i didnt know exactly what a community organizer did until i read saul alinsky’s “rules for radicals” a book that both obamas quote frequently without attribution. alinsky invented this “job”, which for him meant communist agitation under cover .and obama taught the alinsky plan in schools for radicals.

    george (1c9174)

  16. To me, the real mark of her experience is that she’s had to live or die by the choices that she’s made. She didn’t get to vote “present”, the buck stopped at her desk.

    I’ve looked into Obama’s experience as a community organizer, and it’s hard to find any real substance there.

    So, big deal, he decided to goof off as a community organizer rather than slog away at some office for the “big bucks”? Did he starve? What was Michelle doing at that time? Oh that’s right, she was making money. Obama’s wanted to be president since he was 9 or something, so he chose the community organizer thing because he thought it would look good, while being an easy way to build contacts for his chosen career path.
    I hate the way that that get’s painted as some big sacrifice that he made. If there aren’t that many accomplishments that he made as a C.O. than who cares?

    She was a small town mayor, who went on to be a gov. with very high approval ratings. He was a C.O. who went on to be a Senator during a time of historic low approval ratings for that body.

    During his time as Senator, crime in Chicago has gone haywire. During his run for President, he’s made a deal with the teamsters to remove federal oversite of their mob ties. Why should this man be president? Will someone just answer that please!

    xerocky (cf0c5e)

  17. I’ve looked into Obama’s experience as a community organizer, and it’s hard to find any real substance there.

    I have the same problem when I look at his State and US Senate experience… 🙂

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  18. The community organizer thing could be very shrewd. Rudy brought it up as well.

    If it gets people to ask “What did Obama do as a community organizer?” it opens the door to his life before he got elected to anything. This includes his connections to ACORN and his chairmanship of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which flushed $110 million dollars down the drain with nothing to show for it.

    MartyH (00ac40)

  19. Rudy’s line about the community organizer was hysterical. Really?!

    JD (75f5c3)

  20. I wonder if Matt Scully wrote that line too. I’ll have to ask him next time I see him.

    Comment by Patterico — 9/4/2008 @ 1:32 am

    Patterico,
    Peggy Noonan wrote the “thousand points of light” line, though IIRC she said it was inspired by previous statements of Pres. Bush (41). She writes about its genesis in detail in her first book, What I Saw At the Revolution (a good read BTW).

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  21. noyk – That was the pinnacle of Noonan’s career, no? She has been a disappointment in recent times.

    JD (75f5c3)

  22. What was his line? I sadly missed it…

    Gimme a time mark during his speech to look for?

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  23. noyk – That was the pinnacle of Noonan’s career, no? She has been a disappointment in recent times.

    Comment by JD — 9/4/2008 @ 6:27 am

    To be honest, don’t know as much about her attitudes in the last few years, though I really admire her earlier writing (e.g. books on Reagan and Pope JPII in addition to her first one).

    Lots of people agree with you (JD) though, and what I do read of her these days seems, don’t know the right word, more lackluster? What’s you guys’ take on her?

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  24. I understand your pessimism but, I, too believe we can win this now.

    It is not “in the bag” by any means but now there is a good chance. Before, with just McCain — an honorable man, a true patriot, but who has unfortunately staked out a few political positions that have not endeared him with the conservative base — it was a long shot.
    McCain just did not excite enough in the GOP base and that spells disaster to any candidate who hopes to match the Democratic machine.

    But maybe it is a good thing it will not be a cakewalk for McCain-Palin. They will be tested severely, of that there is no doubt, and they will have to work hard for every electoral vote.

    But they now have a ticket that combines so many positives that if they put sufficient energy and smarts into this campaign, they can win it with just a touch of luck.

    When McCain picked Palin, he showed he has the smarts and, after coming from just about dead last to clinch the GOP nomination, he showed he has the energy. Palin — if you saw, heard or read her speech last night, then I don’t even have to write it.

    Now all they need is just a touch of luck. With Obama and Biden, that may come sooner than we think.

    Arnold (63315c)

  25. So happy you Republicans are actually supporting women now.

    Welcome to the 1970’s. Feels pretty good to leave bigotry behind, doesn’t it

    Anonytroll (edae44)

  26. So happy you Republicans are actually supporting women now.

    Welcome to the 1970’s. Feels pretty good to leave bigotry behind, doesn’t it

    Comment by Anonytroll — 9/4/2008 @ 7:12 am

    Actually, speaking as a woman, I would put it this way: it’s just that we conservatives aren’t sexist enough to believe that you have to have a woman on the presidential campaign ticket to “support women” or “leave bigotry behind.”

    But thanks for acknowledging, finally, that we’re not bigots. Welcome to the 1930s. 🙂

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  27. Welcome to the 1970’s. Feels pretty good to leave bigotry behind, doesn’t it

    We never needed a special movement to respect you, dear…

    Dems needed to draw attention to their newfound respect, we always had it, so didn’t see what the fuss was about…

    Scott Jacobs (a1c284)

  28. 16 xerocky- one has to wonder about how the chicago mob thing has festered for what seems like an eternity. No one seems to have called Obama on the removal of fed oversight of the corrupt Teamsters union? How does Daley manage to perpetutate his dear daddy’s ability to foster de facto crime lord status? Are the voters of Chicago that clueless or are they enjoying the tainted fruits of Daley’s criminal empire? I just don’t understand why no one takes that punk on.
    Ok, I understand how race plays a big role in the city government hijinks in places such as Detroit, Philly and DC, but are the majority of Chicago voters total into enabling corksucking icehole thieves in perpetuity?

    How can people across the nation manage not to see through Obama’s ties? If Palin and McCain are indeed looking to change things in Washinton, will they act like a gentleman and lady or recognize the obvious cesspool of characters that surround Obama? How the hell is a Syrian national Rezko tolerated, what with his long history of crimes? How do people support that dynamic duo of terrorist acts Ayers and Rezko? I wonder how many of the Obama sycophants who actually are capable of logic are even aware of his putrid associations. Given what I’ve seen locally of ordinary voters, the DNC/Media has them bamboozled with BS lies. One woman told me Obama has to be her pick because she read that Palin is in pocket of big oil and is neglecting her children by her pursuit of VP.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  29. We never needed a special movement to respect you, dear…

    Condescend much?

    I understand you still need practice. After all, you just started supporting women last week.

    Anonytroll (edae44)

  30. 28, Max, Chicago still uses butterfly punch ballots. ‘Nuff said.

    PCD (5c49b0)

  31. But thanks for acknowledging, finally, that we’re not bigots. Welcome to the 1930s.

    See other commenter. FYI (because I think you need to be reminded) .. it’s 2008

    Anonytroll (edae44)

  32. you just started supporting women last week.

    You have some interesting views. Could I subscribe to your newsletter?

    JD (75f5c3)

  33. “Condescend much?”

    Truly hilarious – and your initial posting here was what, a Hallmark Greeting Card? Or is this really your latent sexism showing, expecting nothing but gentle treatment after an introductory insult?

    Dmac (874677)

  34. See other commenter. FYI (because I think you need to be reminded) .. it’s 2008

    Comment by Anonytroll — 9/4/2008 @ 7:32 am

    I’m sorry: since you apparently need to be reminded, YOU are the one who brought up another decade, not I. I was merely responding with the outdatedness of your false views about conservatives.

    I trust I made myself clear enough for you this time. Would be happy to explain myself further, should you require it. 😉

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  35. “Could I subscribe to your newsletter?”

    I believe you can – it’s called “why are they so mean to me after I’ve called them nasty names?”

    Dmac (874677)

  36. I believe you can – it’s called “why are they so mean to me after I’ve called them nasty names?”

    Comment by Dmac — 9/4/2008 @ 7:44 am

    A magazine, not a newsletter: Victimology Today

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  37. Didn’t Holly pull that same crap ? Drop by, insult, and then get the vapors when called on it?

    JD (75f5c3)

  38. Notes on Noonan…
    Peggy writes on the WSJ Opinion pages (available online without subscription) most Thursday’s or Friday’s.
    I’ve found her a good read, with occassional tangents into areas that are more personal than political.
    It is possible that the “1000 Points of Light” speech was her high-water mark, we’ll have to wait a see.
    To me, her most memorable speech was for RR on the Challenger Disaster (“…and touched the face of God”). That was pure poetry!

    Another Drew (22a60f)

  39. Sarah Palin is a great woman, to know, going in that the Left would try every trick on earth to eviscerate her and her family but did it any way. If, you believe that the Dems and their “supporters” are not horribly biased, still, against women, you don’t have a leg to stand on anymore. Hillary has experience, Geraldine before her and even Pelosi at her most hateful is not respected by the Left. It is the Left that portrays women as whores in any situation where any comparison is made. And, stupid, dumb and needy to boot. Watch our “liberal” celebrities and their treatment of their women. Watch Hip Hop and watch and listen to the treatment of their women. Their videos are destructive to young women because it demeans them and requires a subservience that is disgusting.

    Sue (4d3ef7)

  40. even Pelosi at her most hateful is not respected by the Left

    Nor should she be. And that has nothing to do with her gender.

    JD (75f5c3)

  41. “…Dems and their “supporters” are not horribly biased, still, against women…”

    You can take the Dem Party out of the KKK, but you can’t take the KKK out of the Dem Party!

    Another Drew (22a60f)

  42. Aw that’s a shame that noble community organizers’ feelings are so hurt now because Rudy and Sarah are just so gosh darn mean! Does anybody have any kind of record of what exactly Obama “organized?” Did he color coordinate shelves and folders? Did he teach people in Chicago how to line up in size order? It’s funny that people are so offended that one would dare ask what exactly were the accomplishments of this much-touted organizing. How is that community that Obama “organized” so wonderfully holding up now? Are they now organized into a thriving, well-to-do, successful, highly-educated community of families?

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  43. This the most open and exciting presidential race in my lifetime! Even during the Vietnam War protest years, it was one issue and old Washington hands and predictable results. I sometimes am amazed how this republic continues to reinvigorate itself.

    Just had to say that.

    Patricia (ee5c9d)

  44. I don’t know what the context was either, but when I read the comment “the race is over”, I interpreted that to be a landslide victory was due the Republicans.

    Thomas (a3c869)

  45. I don’t know who wrote the latest speaches for who, but I do know who (Bill Cosby) wrote the ‘great’ speach Hussein O gave on black men taking responsibility for their families. The democrats made the next god out of Hussein O for making a speach that they ran ‘Bill Cosby’ out of town for making a short time prior. Hussein O’s speach wasn’t word for word the same as Cosby’s but it was close enough that everyone knows it was copied and only a few words changed. I thought the Lame Stream Media would be all over the small differences in the speaches but I forgot the LSM only parrots what ‘the chosen one’ tells them to say.

    Scrapiron (d671ab)

  46. 45, that makes sense, Scrapiron. Obamassiah chose a fellow speech plagarist in Biden.

    PCD (5c49b0)

  47. Truly hilarious

    Thanks, you make it easy

    and your initial posting here was what, a Hallmark Greeting Card? Or is this really your latent sexism showing, expecting nothing but gentle treatment after an introductory insult?

    You invoking sexism after calling me “dear” ends our interaction. You’re either too easy .. or too dumb.

    Anonytroll (edae44)

  48. I trust I made myself clear enough for you this time. Would be happy to explain myself further, should you require it.

    Pass. Nothing personal, “dear”, but I don’t think you can hold a coherent thought together long enough to accomplish that.

    Anonytroll (edae44)

  49. Barack Obama’s track record as community organizer:

    For all its impact on Obama, Altgeld Gardens today seems far from the kind of success story politicians like to tout.

    Dozens of buildings are boarded up, with fences surrounding much of the property. The roads are a potholed mess. Blinking lights illuminate a series of towers where police have mounted cameras.

    That right-wing Boston Globe!

    Karl (f07e38)

  50. Jack Klompus- the media doesn’t care to talk about just what happened in Chicago with Housing redevelopment for the poor under the auspices of Obama and his fixer friend Rezno and other assorted thieves. As I recall the developers were made flush and the actual intended beneficiaries took it up the old poop chute. I suppose no one gives a flying fig what those screwed over poor blacks have to opine about the vaunted bwana omamamessiah…uh, um, umgahawah, bang, bang, beep, beep.

    madmax333 (0c6cfc)

  51. madmax333,

    Enriching Rezko while poor people got stuck in uninhabitable slums happened while Obama was a state senator, which was later. But yeah, that’s less important than Bristol Palin’s uterus.

    Karl (f07e38)

  52. 50. Having lived under John “the brothers and sisters are in charge” Street for 8 years in Philly, I can honestly say that I don’t want anyone who’s served in the upper echelon of big city Democratic politics anywhere near national power. Community organizer is the lamest euphemism I’ve ever heard for urban public trough pig.
    Anonytroll – do you find it productive and meaningful to your obviously joy-filled life to make a public display of what a colossal ignorant bitch you are?

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  53. As for the speechwriting meme, the MSM seems to have quickly forgotten that Obama’s speeches are old material produced by David Axelrod for Deval Patrick.

    Karl (f07e38)

  54. Smug, condescending, overly cocky, and rude and other than McCain was a war hero 30 yrs ago I have learned nothing from the Republicans platform which I take is more of the past 8 years. We get it that they are all about war and fear and this Country First stuff is ridiculous – how about People First. Really disappointed in all the speakers – Guillani just proved what an idiot he is and not worthy of a comment & I wonder how the people who gave Lieberman a job feel now that he is a turned on them? The whole convention has been classless and excludes so many sectors of the US population. I sure feel sorry for her daughter’s boyfriend – he looked like he would rather have been at the Dentist.

    Nicole Kirk (1bd437)

  55. And to think Nicole was going to vote the straight GOP ticket before the convention.

    Karl (f07e38)

  56. “You’re either too easy .. or too dumb.”

    More witty repartee from the TrollyGirlll. We wonder what’s next on your agenda – “well, I think you’re just a stoopid, ugly poopy pants!”

    “…but I don’t think you can hold a coherent thought together long enough to accomplish that.”

    This comment comes after we had to labor over this ‘coherent thought:’

    “See other commenter. FYI (because I think you need to be reminded) .. it’s 2008.”

    My goodness, she’s a national treasure – and should be buried immediately.

    Dmac (874677)

  57. Karl – Not only was she going to vote straight GOP, she was going to donate money. No more, I tell you, no more!

    JD (75f5c3)

  58. “Smug, condescending, overly cocky, and rude”
    Nice of you start with an autobiographical note.

    “I have learned nothing from the Republicans platform”
    There’s this interesting new skill they invented called “reading” which lends itself to the art of learning.

    “they are all about war and fear”
    You’ve probably repeated these words more instinctively than Pavlov’s dog salivating at the sound of a bell.

    “Guillani just proved what an idiot he is and not worthy of a comment”
    You might want to get a copy editor to slash and burn your first line of this post unless you’re going for that “irony” thing.

    I wonder how the people who gave Lieberman a job feel now that he is a turned on them?
    So did Gore his former running mate is a turned on Lieberman? Paging Ned Lamont!!

    excludes so many sectors of the US population.
    Sector 7-G simply chose not to attend from what I’ve heard, but it could be just a rumor.

    “he looked like he would rather have been at the Dentist.
    Ten non-anesthetized root canals sounds like a joy compared to hearing any more of your political views.

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  59. “We get it that they are all about war and fear and this Country First stuff is ridiculous – how about People First.”

    Ilovehowthemobysallstringtheirwordstogetherwithoutbotheringtousepunctuationitsalmostliketheyrecuttingandpastingthingsfromothersources.

    Or perhaps their incessant mouth – breathing is starting to effect their motor skills.

    Also note the wonderful axiom of “People First.” Because as well all know, the GOP’s primary platform is “Inanimate Objects and Vegetable Matter first, but People Last.”

    Dmac (874677)

  60. “We get it that they are all about war and fear and this Country First stuff is ridiculous – how about People First.”

    Ilovehowthemobysallstringtheirwordstogetherwithoutbotheringtousepunctuationitsalmostliketheyrecuttingandpastingthingsfromothersources.

    Or perhaps their incessant mouth – breathing is starting to effect their motor skills.

    Also note the wonderful axiom of “People First.” Because as we all know, the GOP’s primary platform is “Inanimate Objects and Vegetable Matter first, but People Last.”

    Dmac (874677)

  61. Whoops, sorry for the double posting.

    Dmac (874677)

  62. Please folks, let’s not forget to include the important “and I was a life long Republican” with your posts. Signed White Whale Mgmt. Inc.

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  63. You’re just a eevil Rethuglican, Jack – how can you be so condescending to such Red, White and Blue Republicans?

    BTW, you’re cracking me up with this stuff.

    Dmac (874677)

  64. 63. Well dmac when you get your talking points from Faux News like I do, it’s hard not to be a war-mongering neo-con who fails to put People First.

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  65. Testimonial of one… likely being widely repeated around the country:

    My Democrat wife had an emotional dialogue with the TV last night, castigating lefty reporters and praising Palin.

    The upshot: Obama/Biden loses a vote while McCain/Palin picks up one.

    For my part, didn’t see how I could vote for old statist McCain. With Palin I can. That’s a three vote net swing out of two people on account of Palin. That math could doom the Dems.

    Charlie (c9618a)

  66. Last fall, Obama returned here for a television interview, walking past the boarded-up buildings, waving at children, and promising not to forget the residents as he runs for president. “It was, it is, a tough, tough place,” he said.

    I think the Chosen One has forgotten where he came from…a real supporter of his old community.

    /sarc

    fmfnavydoc (87ae8a)

  67. Oh I did have one more thing to say, DMac… I’m not a girl.

    Yes. You really are that dumb

    Anonytroll (edae44)

  68. 67. You show little that indicates that you possess a Y chromosome.

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  69. Anonytroll – Given your banter ’round here today, your gender is quite irrelevant. You are no more, or less, of a mendoucheous troll if you are a boy or a girl.

    JD (75f5c3)

  70. The funny thing is that Obama wasn’t even a community organizer, he worked for the radical leftist voter fraud group ACORN, look it up.

    James (aaeafa)

  71. “Oh I did have one more thing to say, DMac… I’m not a girl.”

    That’s interesting, because you write like one – a girl of about ten years old, judging by your Fanboy – style vocabularly.

    “Yes. You really are that dumb”

    Said by someone who apparently cannot understand proper sentence structure and punctuation. Do you still have your braces and mouth guard inserted when you type?

    Dmac (874677)

  72. Did Biden give a speech? Who knew?

    MJBrutus (fdc0cd)

  73. Bitter Divorced Career Expert: Bitch Better Get Back in the Kitchen

    “It’s really hard to know where to compromise. Here’s what I was doing when my kid was five months old: I was at home. Hating it. Telling myself that I was not cut out to be at home. I was sort of a columnist and sort of a mom and sort of a psychopath. Because having a five-month-old with special needs is very very hard. Not just learning to take care of the baby, but mentally coping.

    Why is no one talking about this? The Republicans should dump Palin. She’s got too much responsibility at home.

    Don’t tell me that this is not fair to women. Because you know what? People should have railed against John Edwards running for President when he had two young kids at home and a wife fighting cancer. Fine if she wants him to run for office while she fights the cancer. I get it. But I don’t get how the President of the United States was going to have time to console two school age kids about their mom’s death while leading the country. It’s irresponsible.”

    NL (91f0c5)

  74. Anonytroll – You claim you’re not a girl, but guess what? You’re still our bitch!

    That’s teh SUXXOR!!!!11!!eleventy!!11!!

    Heh!

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  75. Small town mayors should demand an apology!

    It's Me! (03617a)

  76. Ten – year old girls should demand an apology.

    Dmac (874677)

  77. James,

    Obama was a (failed) community organizer before getting involved with the stooges and thugs of ACORN. I have surveyed most of this before, though there’s more on ACORN here.

    Karl (f07e38)

  78. Comment by Anonytroll — 9/4/2008 @ 12:01 pm

    You’re male, and you called me “dear” (I didn’t call you anything). And yes, I DID say I was a woman.

    By your own standards (see above) that makes you a sexist. Have a good evening, sexist.

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  79. Will someone please research the “she was FOR the bridge to nowhere before she was against it” meme that Barack’s minions are placing on blogs all over the internet? I would like to know what exactly occurred – timetable, when she was “for” it (and IF she was for it), when she got against it, WHY she came out against it.

    Joe Crandall (0d6c74)

  80. hey Dmac….what on earth are you talking about?
    Ever heard the name Condaleeza Rice?
    Ever seen a woman…ahem…a BLACK WOMAN, at that…in such a position on the Democrat side?
    That’s what I thought. Put down the bong, dude.

    Bridget (591f90)

  81. Dmac….MY APOLOGIES.
    I should have read that closer…I was responding to Anonytroll….or something like that…the idiot that said, “welcome to the ’70s–feels good to leave bigotry behind…blahfreakin’blah”

    Bridget (591f90)

  82. Well? I’m waiting, you slackers! C’mon, I’m busy, got work to do – but I need the answer! Got people asking me about it, people who are leaning toward McCain/Palin BUT FOR this bridge thingee.

    Joe Crandall (0d6c74)

  83. Joe @ #78…
    There is a posting on one of the other threads here on PP of a wire-service story from Nov 07 (IIRC), about the bridge.
    Essentially, it says that when the Congress changed the earmark from a specific one, to a discretionary one, she accepted that the Congress was not going to fund this project, and that AK had more important projects than the bridges, and she spread the funds out to other, more important, transportation projects.

    Another Drew (67986d)

  84. Ok, we’re getting there – is there a link available? Do you expect ME to find it or something? Sheesh . . . don’t make me get all Palin on your a*s!

    Joe Crandall (0d6c74)

  85. Bridget – How did the Bar exam go?

    JD (5f0e11)

  86. Joe, I can only teach you to fish,
    I can’t go out in the boat for you.

    Another Drew (67986d)

  87. Bridget’s back….great.
    Did you pass?

    Another Drew (67986d)

  88. grumble . . .

    Joe Crandall (0d6c74)

  89. Joe #83…
    Go to “Sully continues vetting…” and scroll to comment #32.

    Another Drew (67986d)

  90. Some eco-wacko dim-bulb claimed she was a menece to the enviroment becuase she is from ALSAKA and they generaly resent those eco-freaks trying to turn the state into their own private play-ground FEED THE GREENS TO THE POLARBEARS KILLER WHALES AND SKUAS

    Krazy Kagu (0506b0)

  91. Why doesn’t anyone take credit for Biden’s speech?
    For the same reason Teddy Kennedy wouldn’t take credit for driving Ms. Kopechne. Would the Captain of the Titanic ‘take credit’ for the fateful journey on that night to remember? Did Michael Dukakis’ speechwriters take credit for the speeches? I don’t recall Jean Fraude Ketchup’s speechwriters taking credit for his delivery of them. The same with the Goreacle in 2000. And that is the issue you could have put the Scully’s work in the hands of any of the aforementioned people (except perhaps Kennedy who can give a good speech when he’s sober) and it would turn out to be a dud. So the most credit belongs to Gov Palin who took a workmanlike speech to the nth level at the same time the Teleprompter on which it was written was going haywire and at the same time she was under the Electron Microscope by the media looking for any unravelled threads to pounce upon.

    eaglewingz08 (98291e)


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