Patterico's Pontifications

6/2/2008

WWBOD

Filed under: 2008 Election — WLS @ 11:56 am



Posted by WLS:

Obama decided last week to “resign” from the congregation of the Trinity United Church — a decision he made only 73 days after going on national television in his much-ballyhooed Philadephia “race” speech to say:

Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church?… 

…The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God’s work here on Earth – by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.

Like other predominantly black churches across the country, Trinity embodies the black community in its entirety…. Like other black churches, Trinity’s services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear. The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America.

And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children….  I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community…..

Some will see this as an attempt to justify or excuse comments that are simply inexcusable. I can assure you it is not. I suppose the politically safe thing would be to move on from this episode and just hope that it fades into the woodwork.

So, his bravery in defending Trinity and Rev. Wright in Philadelphia ultimately falls in favor of the “politically safe” thing — and Obama’s decision is reduced to a blog entry from a black journalist in Chicago who got wind of the “resignation” letter sent by the Obama’s to Trinity on Friday. 

Well, ain’t that a profile in courage.

Which leads me to wonder — WWBOD?

John McCain’s father was promoted to Commander Pacific Naval Forces in mid-1968.  McCain had been a POW since Oct. 1967.  In a propoganda ploy, North Vietnam offered McCain the opportunity to go home shortly after his father’s promotion.  McCain refused unless all POW’s who had been held longer were released first.  In response, the North Vietnamese embarked on a program of brutal torture of McCain in August 1968 which lasted until late in 1969.

McCain gave a coerced “anti-American” statement at one point after 4 days of continuous torture, but refused thereafter to meet with anti-war groups from the US or to sign any additional statements condemning the US. 

Which leads me to wonder …. if Obama could only take the heat over his association the Trinity Church for 73 days, how long would he have lasted in the Hanoi Hilton before taking the North Vietnamese up on their offer of a hot shower, soft bed, and a nice cup of Black Forest Berry Honest Tea in preparation for a sit down meal with Jane Fonda?

One more thing — If the rumored tape involving intemperate speech by Michele Obama turns out to be true, do you think Barack will file for divorce?  

79 Responses to “WWBOD”

  1. Barry won’t file for divorce. It would cost him too much, and him saying “I divorce you” three times to his wife’s face would end his charade.

    PCD (5c49b0)

  2. Judgment to lead? He can’t even get himself to follow his own leadership.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  3. He didn’t exactly repudiate the insanity spewing forth from the mouths of Wright, Moss, Pflegler, etal. He notes how his Presidential campaign is drawing too much unwanted attention to teh krazy coming forth from his chose house of worship. The kind of krazy, I remind you, that only happens when Baracky is not there.

    JD (75f5c3)

  4. Levi has a stronger spine than Baracky.

    JD (75f5c3)

  5. “Levi has a stronger spine than Baracky.”
    Must be from carrying around all those books that he’s going to not read but still write A-earning papers on.

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  6. If Obama ever tells Michelle he’s half white, he should be able to get a divorce in no time. The old gal has a thing against whiteys, y’ know.

    Vermont Neighbor (2464ca)

  7. “If Obama ever tells Michelle he’s half white, he should be able to get a divorce in no time. The old gal has a thing against whiteys, y’ know.”
    This scenario has Chappelle Show skit written all over it.

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  8. if Obama could only take the heat over his association the Trinity Church for 73 days, how long would he have lasted in the Hanoi Hilton before taking the North Vietnamese up on their offer of a hot shower, soft bed, and a nice cup of Black Forest Berry Honest Tea in preparation for a sit down meal with Jane Fonda?

    Vermont Neighbor (2464ca)

  9. thanks, Jack. And you’ve answered one of my questions: How will the fawning media even parody their idol once they discreetly shove him in office? Olbermann, reduced to slathering and fanboy talk for 4 years? Chris Matthews, going on disability for a spine-tingling leg problem? I’m worried.

    Vermont Neighbor (2464ca)

  10. Victor Davis Hanson has outlined how the Democrats have successfully managed to put forward the only candidate who can lose this election and the Republicans put up the only guy who could have won

    here

    Sen. Obama is having a hard time doing precisely what some of the kids in detention hall today want him to do. “Man up and admit you are a radical leftist, and embrace the bile, hatred and venom of Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger, Ayers, Meeks, and “Frank” Marshall Davis like we know you want to…dude.”

    cfbleachers (4040c7)

  11. VN – I think the inauguration / national racial reconciliation consortium / enemies of hope and change trials / confessions of wrongdoing to the Earth townhalls / buffet is scheduled to run until January 19, 2013 and Matthews will be healed of his affliction instantaneously at those brand new free hospitals that will be up and running at full capability the day after the election.

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  12. Jack, I agree. I have full confidence that Obama can pull America together, right after he pulls his cue cards together. What potential.

    Vermont Neighbor (2464ca)

  13. point of order: Obama wouldn’t need to worry about being tortured….. he’d join the Vietnamese in torturing American servicemen.

    redc1c4 (e3877d)

  14. Divorce Michelle? No way. She has BHO totally whipped. I bet if he tried any Bill Clinton-style extra-curriculars, she’d rip his sack off. Which is a good thing, I guess.

    gp (c05653)

  15. After being married to Michelle, torture by the North Vietnamese might have a degree of appeal.

    huey (9558ff)

  16. huey for your racial insensitivity I sentence you to a Clockwork Orange-like restraining while Michelle reads aloud her Princeton thesis including all footnotes.

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  17. isn’t anyone who writes “wwbod” subconsciously equating obama with jesus?

    assistant devil's advocate (4f176b)

  18. Yeah — didn’t you know I shot the Newsweek cover?

    wls (ec2de1)

  19. McCain gave a coerced “anti-American” statement at one point after 4 days of continuous torture

    I gotta wonder though, McCain was free to leave Vietnam but he decided that it would be better to stay and give anti-American statements. Something doesn’t add up about that.

    j curtis (c84b9e)

  20. If Obama was smart, he would divorce Michelle then go to California and marry Kobe Bryant. This would enhance his standing among several different and diverse groups.

    huey (9558ff)

  21. huey – LOL!! I see a Photoshop project delight designing the couple on top of the cake. Pfleger should perform the ceremony in blackface and drag.

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  22. j curtis #20,

    I fell for that lie too. It never happened. The VietMinh typed up a statement for McCain to read while he had two broken arms and two broken legs. When they tried to put him in front of the camera to read it, he tore it up. His enemies have been putting out the first part of the story, giving it the worst possible spin.

    nk (6c75e0)

  23. #24 makes you wonder why, other than for anti-war political comsiderations, lurch sKerry went through the whole winter soldier BS and also hobnobbed with Vietcong in Paris. Can’t see that liberal war hero doing the right thing in prison at all. Assorted grievous injuries such as rice in his ass cheeks were enough for him to bail after 4 months and yet some call him a patriot. I imagine Dubya would not have been much of a stand up guy either back then, but who really knows? Bob Dole, Bush I and JFK were genuine war heroes. Clinton weaseled out of draft and protested abroad. Of course it didn’t matter in ’92 and ’96 because of Perot, who interestingly enough got his own employees back from the islamomutants. Do you think the media will put any positive shine on McCain’s service? You’d think he’d have some degree of moral authority regarding war, but that is reserved for the likes of Cindy Sheehan apparently. Carter II most likely would continue the degradation of our military and intelligence agencies. Even the French are to the right of crybaby Urkel on Iraq.

    madmax333 (77b385)

  24. j curtis –
    It is part of the basic Navy training that NO-ONE can resist torture entirely.

    Anyone, in enough time, will break.

    Four F*ing days is a lot longer than I can hold up– how about you?

    Wanna to volunteer to test it out?

    Foxfier (15ac79)

  25. #25

    You are missing the point. If I was being tortured to the point where I either need to accept the plane ticket home or give anti-American statements, I take the ticket and get out of there. Especially if my father is the commander of the American war effort.

    I’m trying to imagine a son of FDR or Eisenhower during WW2 being taken prisoner and agreeing to participate in enemy propaganda by making anti-American statements when he has the option to just hop in a plane and go home.

    I’d like to see the text of all of the statements he made against the US while prisoner and see how McCain-like the statements seem.

    j curtis (c84b9e)

  26. Divorce? Absolutely… happens between season one and season two of 24 where Sherry aka “Michelle Obama” gets cut loose for her unethical behavior.

    Man… don’t you people watch TV?

    redherkey (9f5961)

  27. Go read the Prisoner of War portion of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_military_career_of_John_McCain if you don’t think highly of McCain’s actions while a POW.

    kaf (d3b2f2)

  28. Well said, kaf, an account that should put any critics to shame, were they capable of it.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  29. #25: if you take a privilege like that, you are breaking faith with your shipmates, and violating section 3 of the Code of Conduct. maybe that’s ok for you, but it goes against the grain for military people.

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/10631.html

    redc1c4 (e3877d)

  30. #30

    Then just go ahead and say that it’s better to become the enemy’s Tokyo Rose while your father is the commander of the war than to take the option of not becoming the Tokyo Rose because by not becoming a Tokyo Rose you are breaking the faith of your shipmates.

    j curtis (c84b9e)

  31. j curtis, you’ve embarrassed yourself enough.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  32. #31: just because you believe lies doesn’t mean they’re true.

    redc1c4 (e3877d)

  33. McCain as Tokyo Rose? Time to up your meds, j. curtis.

    Pablo (99243e)

  34. j curtis,

    would you provide some sort of proof that Mccain made any of these statements? No, I guess not, you claim you have never seen any of them.

    So you are making tremendously huge assumptions.

    Not to mention that Mccain was offered a ride home, but obviously was not aware that any of these statements would eventually be made. You’re sliming a war hero for no reason. You know that the precise choice that you are claiming Mccain made was not possible. Mccain is no mind reader.

    And furthermore, a man who is being tortures like that, who refuses to cooperate with favors like that, if he is forced to make an anti-US statement, it’s perfectly clear it was coerced. It has zero propaganda power except to tell troops how brutally they will be tortured. No one actually believed these POWs actually condemned the US… except you apparently.

    It’s lame that you make huge assumptions and refuse the obvious, and it all just happens to fall into place against Mccain. Almost as though you are deliberately being unfair.

    Jem (4cdfb7)

  35. SPQR, I’m not sure j curtis is capable of embarrassment. People who are generally have the good sense not to spew such crap in the first place.

    Xrlq (62cad4)

  36. Wow. Levi has company. j curtis is a rather vile person.

    JD (5f0e11)

  37. No kidding. Between this thread, “fag weddings” and criticizing Patterico for declining to dance on Ted Kennedy’s (impending) grave, I’m not sure the guy has any redeeming value whatsoever. At least Levi serves one useful purpose: discrediting the left. Curtis isn’t even good for that.

    Xrlq (b71926)

  38. Xrlq – They are small pathetic little people, worthy of mocking and scorn, on a good day.

    JD (75f5c3)

  39. First of all, does anyone really believe Obama “came to his Christian faith” because of religious feelings? No–and that’s fine, his faith or lack of faith is his business.

    He joined the church for political reasons and black liberation theology seemed like a cool way to put faith and hating whitey together. And now he wants us to buy that he’s some kind of misunderstood martyr? Give me a break.

    Patricia (f56a97)

  40. #30-
    I think you meant #26; mine was 25.

    And yes, J. Curtis seems to be missing the point that this is WHY we have this training– so that you don’t set there going “well, it seems like…” because you already have instructions on what you should do.

    Foxfier (15ac79)

  41. And yes, J. Curtis seems to be missing the point that this is WHY we have this training– so that you don’t set there going “well, it seems like…” because you already have instructions on what you should do.

    Comment by Foxfier — 6/3/2008 @ 12:30 pm

    I’m pretty sure that you aren’t instructed to give anti-American statements.

    “I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies, or harmful to their cause.”

    There is a dilemma in article v that might force a POW to break one of the rules so that he can avoid breaking another rule. If that happens, then you just need to judge his judgment.

    In this instance the dilemma would be “I can provide the enemy with propaganda or I can take the special parole being offered”.

    As for the propaganda that McCain provided Hanoi, I think it’s sort of being buried now.

    Hanoi Says McCain’s Son Terms U.S. ‘Isolated’
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    November 11, 1967, Saturday

    Page 4, 291 words

    HANOI, North Vietnam, Nov. 10 (Agence France-Presse)– Lieut. Cmdr. John Sydney McCain 3d, son of Admiral John S. McCain Jr., commander of United States naval forces in Europe, was quoted by the Hanoi press today as having said that the United States appeared “isolated” because of the Vietnam war. [ END OF FIRST PARAGRAPH ]

    You can find some things in Google news archive but I don’t think the US press really got too deep into the details at the time.

    Sounds like McCain was using the talking points of today’s Democrat back then.

    And when you put someone in charge of a war whose son is being kept prisoner by the enemy, it seems to me that you don’t want to win the war. Talk about compromised. It just seems so fishy.

    j curtis (c84b9e)

  42. You see to be ignoring the whole “Torture” thing. And those rules got changed as a RESULT of what McCain and others went through.

    “resist to your upmost ability” is the new line. Has been since.

    Not a single military person faults McCain for his statements after what was done to him, and they honor him for his refusal to take special treatment by way of a ticket home.

    You, however, are a fucking moron. Lets see how long you go before you start calling me the God Emperor with me doing to you what was done to McCain.

    I give you three fingernails and two bones… Tops.

    regardless, it would be well short of McCain…

    Scott Jacobs (fa5e57)

  43. Sounds like McCain was using the talking points of today’s Democrat back then.

    He’d been brutalized for months… In ways you can’t imagine…

    What’s Reid’s excuse?

    Scott Jacobs (fa5e57)

  44. It just seems so fishy.

    Wow, the general election campaign has started already!

    Yes, I smell a conspiracy. I’m sure the Carlyle Group was involved, and messages were sent by secret decoder rings.

    Oh, and let’s not forget the Joooz.

    Patricia (f56a97)

  45. “Oh, and let’s not forget the Joooz.”
    That’s “neocons” Patricia, er um I mean uh…”Zionists” that’s it!!

    Jack Klompus (cf3660)

  46. j curtis –
    Go look up what real torture is; not loud music, not water boarding, but real, breaking bones and grinding them around, torture.

    And then go break your own bone so you have some kind of idea, and try to come back and say that he’s in the least responsible.

    Foxfier (15ac79)

  47. j curtis is a Ronulian. Probably has a swastika burned onto his behind. (No sissy tattoos for Stormfront’s Storm Troopers.)

    nk (be56c0)

  48. j curtis, you have succeeded in disgusting me with your conduct. Your behavior is irredeemable.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  49. “At least Levi serves one useful purpose: discrediting the left. Curtis isn’t even good for that.”

    – Xrlq

    Aren’t you going to (explicitly) draw the logical extension as to which side of the ideological spectrum j curtis discredits?

    Leviticus (22eefa)

  50. Leviticus – We are already familiar with j curtis, and know that his ideological perspective is not ours.

    JD (5f0e11)

  51. Leviticus –
    I believe J. Curtis’ politics would be classified as “far left field.” Thus, the title “ronulan.”

    “Left” and “right” are just the relatively sane political views.

    Foxfier (15ac79)

  52. Leviticus:

    Aren’t you going to (explicitly) draw the logical extension as to which side of the ideological spectrum j curtis discredits?

    Nah. Suffice it to say that from where I sit, discrediting one side of the ideological spectrum serves a legitimate purpose, while discrediting the other does not. Hence my preference for Levi over j curtis. And, I presume, your preference for vice-versa.

    Xrlq (62cad4)

  53. HANOI, North Vietnam, Nov. 10 (Agence France-Presse)– Lieut. Cmdr. John Sydney McCain 3d, son of Admiral John S. McCain Jr., commander of United States naval forces in Europe, was quoted by the Hanoi press today as having said that the United States appeared “isolated” because of the Vietnam war.

    Oh, well that’s solid. Not.

    Pablo (99243e)

  54. It’s funny reading some of the propaganda that the McCain people link to. They should try harder at scrubbing the discrediting footnote links:

    Pentagon Confirms Capture

    Washington, Oct. 27 (Reuters)-The Pentagon confirmed today that Lieut. Cmdr. John S. McCain, 3d, described by the Hanoi radio as the son of the commander of United States Naval Forces in Europe, was captured in North Vietnam yesterday.

    Follow the timeline. McCain was shot down on the 26th, Hanoi radio learned of McCain’s father as soon as McCain was captured. Keep that in mind when you hear about McCain being refused treatment until some later date when the commies learned that his father was a big wig and that he only gave them his name, rank and serial number after his capture.

    That alone should be grounds for the RNC to deny his nomination.

    j curtis (c84b9e)

  55. j curtis, it is a shame that horse whipping has gone out of fashion.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  56. #56
    so how far can you possibly stuck up Urkel’s posterior as an Obamatard? “That alone should be grounds for denying him the nomination”

    What are you, some disciple of Dan Blather or 60 Minutes? You and your treasonous kind should leave for better climes. How does it feel to a totally ignorant troll buffoon?

    madmax333 (40d4a0)

  57. John McCain:

    Cracks under pressure.

    Fucked around on his first wife when she was severely injured.

    Is a kept man who married a rich woman the second time because he is a failure in business.

    Likely caused the death of US soliders because of his treason.

    Can’t even hide a bribe correctly.

    Old and crippled.

    Graduated in the bottom 1% of the service academy.

    Ratted on US soldiers and contributed to the killing of US soldiers because of his inadequacy.

    Supports amnesty.
    —————————-

    So why exactly is a douche bag like McCain a hero?

    Jim (eac670)

  58. Jim – Are you Levi’s brother?

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  59. No, but all of you who think McCain is a hero need to have your heads examined.

    Yes, Obama went to a fairly radical church. But can you give evidence that McCain has even been to church and can you explain his conversion in roughly 2000 from a Epscopal church to a Baptist church in AZ as something that wasn’t also politically motivated.

    Jim (eac670)

  60. Jim, there is a lot to be criticized about McCain, I’m not happy about his nomination and am no fan of his immigration policy proposals.

    However; your list is just dishonest crap of the sort I expect to find on my shoe after a walk in the park. And you are the kind of creature that usually is identified as depositing it.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  61. Wow I thought Levi came across like a dick.

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  62. Jack, Levi is dumber, this Jim is a lot slimier.

    Amazingly, disgusting attacks like this are actually making me more fond of McCain.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  63. Jim, thank you for your fact filled comment. I take it that you are advancing the democrat philosopy that it is OK to fuck around on your wife as long as she is not ill, to take a bribe as long as you hide it well, to be a kept man like John Kerry – wait what’s your complaint here.

    What failure did McCain have in business Jim? He worked for his father-in-law’s company for a year between leaving the navy and running for congress.

    What cracking under pressure and deaths of fellow soldiers are you referring to? Can you be specific, with citations please?

    What bribe has McCain taken? Can you be specific again?

    What crippling injuries does McCain have?

    Do you dislike his teeth the same way Kos does as well?

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  64. Jim – It sounds like you have a real inside line on this stuff. What were McCains political motivations in switching churches?

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  65. “But can you give evidence that McCain has even been to church and can you explain his conversion in roughly 2000 from a Epscopal church to a Baptist church in AZ as something that wasn’t also politically motivated.”

    You question whether evidence exists that McCain has even been to church and then in the same statement question his motives for switching from one church to another. Impeccable logic that ranks up there with “This statement is false.”

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  66. Jim…
    Since McCain married his current wife before he retired from the Navy, I fail to see how he was a failure at business, neccessitating his marriage to a rich wife to keep him in the luxury to which he became addicted whilst an honored guest of the North VietNamese.

    Man, this low-hanging fruit is so easy.

    Another charter member of the Moron Club.

    Another Drew (8018ee)

  67. …sigh…It just goes to show that negative campaigning wont work this year. How does it feel to have your candidate maligned unfairly? These are two great leaders who will compete this year for the highest office in the world. Some respect and decency on both sides wont be a bad idea. They have both achieved greatness politically and we are proud of them. This politics of personal attacks will fail woefully. Let us focus on the issues at stake. May the best man win!

    love2008 (a6320b)

  68. How does it feel to have your candidate maligned unfairly?

    If you refer to the “swiftboaters”, love, allow me to remind you of something…

    The guys who got on Kerry were the people he served with. The guys ON THE BOAT. They dispised him.

    The guys McCain was in Hanoi with would take a bullet for him, they think so highly of him. You won’t find a single one (save the one guy who took the favor and left out of turn, McCain has stated he loaths that man) to speak ill of him.

    I don’t like McCain the politician, but McCain the Pilot and POW I respect to the upmost.

    And Obama’s “achievements” are getting elected. Period. He’s acomplished NOTHING else.

    If I’m wrong, name… Hell, name three key peices of legislation that Obama Co-sponsored (5 if you’re going to include the Illinois House).

    Simply because you dislike us pointing out the bad choices that abound in Obama’s past (and they are many and sundry) doesn’t make them “personal attacks”. Calling Ted Bundy a serial killer wouldn’t be a personal attack on Ted Bundy, would it?

    Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec)

  69. Doesn’t a legislator earn a “cosponsor” credit simply by putting their name on the bill? How much serious contribution does one have to make to a piece of legislation in order to claim status as “cosponsor?” Just curious.

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  70. I should have said “Author or co-author”, but I’ll stand by what I said. I still doubt it’ll net much. Nothing of substance, at least…

    Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec)

  71. Oh believe me, Scott. I agree with the points you’ve made. I agree that it would nice to have a civil debate between the candidates, but I respectfully disagree with Leviticus on the assessment that we have “two great leaders” competing for the office. I just plain and simply honestly believe that Obama is woefully unqualified for the job and that his supporters are often cartoonish in their adoration of the man.

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  72. #73
    but I respectfully disagree with Leviticus on the assessment that we have “two great leaders” competing for the office. I just plain and simply honestly believe that Obama is woefully unqualified for the job and that his supporters are often cartoonish in their adoration of the man.
    Comment by Jack Klompus — 6/5/2008 @ 7:16 pm

    I dont know how you can say that Obama has not achieved some level of greatness for himself, Jack. He has done something an African American has never done before. Being the nominee of a major political party in America is no mean deal. You gotta give some credit for that. One of the hall marks of greatness is making history. The last I checked, greatness and qualifications dont always go hand in hand. If so, all the “qualified” people on earth today are also great. But that is not always so. History is full of tales of greatness coming from the most unqualified of all. So I stand by what I said, I believe Barack Obama has achieved greatness by becoming the first minority to be nominated as the flag bearer of his party. He has made history and placed his name in the records of America’s political discussions in years to come. I give him credit for running a great campaign. The best this whole season. John McCain has also achieved greatness for himself.

    love2008 (6e616b)

  73. love – first sorry about the identity mixup.
    I don’t deny that history has been made with the Obama nomination. I think that it’s a tribute to the fact that America is a lot more “post-racial” than ironically a lot of people try to depict us. I think too many people are invested in the constant hammering away at issues of race that it often makes you wonder if those who crow most loudly about getting over our racial divide really want to see that happen. Most, granted not all, who do not support Obama I believe do so because they do not like his politics, and find it incredibly ironic that this symbol of supposedly reaching the mountaintop has had a number of prominent mentors and supporters who are almost cartoonishly obsessed with keeping the race issue alive.

    Also, I think in order for someone to be considered “great” at what they do, they should be qualified. I generally don’t find politicians who have the ability to tap into some kind of yearning or psyche and exploit it for election purposes to be great. I think that a lot of people who are often demonized by the left such as people who are wealthy in their field of business have shown not only qualifications but also greatness in what they provide for other people: goods, services, and jobs.

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  74. I think that a lot of people who are often demonized by the left such as people who are wealthy in their field of business have shown not only qualifications but also greatness in what they provide for other people: goods, services, and jobs.

    You know what’s funny, Jack? You and I probably have a memory issue at our age. Those people on the left didn’t seem nearly as interested in the “first black to become…” when that person came in the form of Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice….nor did those leftists talk about achieving greatness with Clarence Thomas becoming a Supreme Court justice.

    As I recall, the great “open minds” and “soft hearts” of the left were calling them Uncle Toms, Condiskeeza, “sellouts”, the white man’s houseboy…and worse, …or am I recalling that incorrectly?

    Sen. Obama won a popularity contest that was rigged by the media and heavily based upon race, garnering nearly unanimous support from the black electorate. Had the media not covered the race unfairly and had race not been a primary issue, he would not have won a single state after being vetted objectively and completely before the race began.

    His legisltative achievements have been virtually non-existent. His governmental experience is paper thin. But, he stands poised to lead these 57 United States of ours.

    At least the treason from the left and their lackeys in the media would be toned down for a while.

    cfbleachers (4040c7)

  75. “Those people on the left didn’t seem nearly as interested in the “first black to become…” when that person came in the form of Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice….nor did those leftists talk about achieving greatness with Clarence Thomas becoming a Supreme Court justice.”

    I have always found this to be one of the most foul, insidious, and juvenile examples of the Left’s insufferable hypocrisy. I’ve mentioned before that I worked with a religion teacher in a Catholic high school who was Pfleger basically. J.C. Watts came up in conversation and this tool declared, “Oh THAT Uncle Tom!”

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  76. cfb – And none of them ever seem to mention the entertainment industry when using rhetoric like “windfall profits”. Will they ever make comparisons like “How can we allow the poor single mother living paycheck to paycheck without healthcare when Mariah Carey is worth $225 million?” in their lofty rhetoric?

    Jack Klompus (b796b4)

  77. Jack, when you live by principles of convenience…sexual harassment is aa hot button issue…except when Bill Clinton is charged with it, as a serial groper. Then…the accusers are “asking for it” or are “trailer trash”.

    Now, however…the Clintons are on the outside looking in, so you could convict him of the Lindbergh kidnapping and get the media to support it and the leftists to vote for his conviction.

    Corporate America is an unworthy endeavor…but making a fortune as a trial attorney suing corporations and doctors is just peachy.

    (having a father who bootlegs his way into a political career for you, can buy you a few surrogates for the bar exam and let you get away with an adulterous manslaughter…but if you dare to stand by principles as it applies to the evidence presented by the CLINTON administration that Saddam Hussein posed a grave threat to pass off weapons of murder to terrorists…you get thrown out of the party…like Joe Lieberman.)

    A trust fund baby can drive a big SUV, fly private planes and leave a Bigfoot sized carboon imprint…and not a peep. But ask to drill in America to ease the burden of oil dependence…and you are a environmental Nazi.

    Arguments become a joke, when the principles are treated as a punch line.

    cfbleachers (4040c7)


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