Patterico's Pontifications

6/1/2008

He’s Only 1/15 Off . . .

Filed under: Morons — Patterico @ 3:35 pm



Alcee Hastings:

At the beginning of our great country’s history my ancestors were counted as only 2/3 of a person.

(Via Tully at Stubborn Facts.)

26 Responses to “He’s Only 1/15 Off . . .”

  1. I want to hear from “Indians not taxed”. It would not be all that bad of a statement, actually, if not for the claim of supreme moral authority due to past victimhood.

    nk (6c75e0)

  2. Ask him what was wrong with the 3/5 clause. Bet he says they should have counted as whole people, when the correct answer is that that they shouldn’t have been counted at all.

    Milhouse (f10fb3)

  3. Is he positive that he does not have any White ancestors? I thought the slave masters idled their time away by raping their women slaves.

    My Ancestors were not counted at all, they were in Norway and Ireland.

    Perfect Sense (b6ec8c)

  4. Ask him what was wrong with the 3/5 clause.

    Of course the grand irony is that counting slaves as 3/5 of a person was a compromise beneficial to abolitionists. Southern slave owners wanted slaves to count as a full person, which would have meant that slave states like South Carolina, Georgia, Virginia, etc. would have had a larger representation in Congress, even though a large chunk of their adult male population was not able to vote. Abolitionists from Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, New York, etc. didn’t want slaves to count at all, so that Congressional representation would only be based upon the white vote. Had the Southerners prevailed, they would have been over-represented in Congress and among the Electoral College, and Abraham Lincoln might never have been elected.

    But no one expects a half-wit impeached jurist like Alcee Hastings to know his history.

    JVW (78155f)

  5. It is a shame that American blacks can be so damn uneducated yet still rise to positions of power. We have dumbed ourselves down so that we all can be “equal” with morons like this, so that no one has hurt feelings.

    The two points, that it is 3/5 not 2/3, and that by rating blacks as 3/5th helped the anti-slavery side, and the fact that this stupid, stupid black man has risen to a position of power foretells the fall of our civilization. We are dumbing ourselves to death.

    martin (cd5d90)

  6. It is a shame that American blacks can be so damn uneducated yet still rise to positions of power

    Sigh. I know I shouldn’t.

    What does his race have to do with his ignorance of history and the Constitution?

    If your answer is anything but “nothing”, deduct 100 points from your IQ.

    SteveMG (79932f)

  7. SteveMG, martin sounds like a troll to me.

    JVW (78155f)

  8. SteveMG, martin sounds like a troll to me.

    Yep, I think so.

    Raising the question: Should you knock them down? Or just ignore them?

    If you let it slide, then they can go elsewhere and claim that their “racist” (bigoted, whatever goal they were trying to do) postings went uncorrected or unaddressed.

    A sharp whack upside the head never hurts.

    SteveMG (79932f)

  9. And so love 2008.

    nk (6c75e0)

  10. And so *is* love 2008.

    nk (6c75e0)

  11. Race has to do with affirmative action allowing dregs to rise to the top, provided that they meet the criteria. A white person as stupid as him would NOT have become a judge, then after impeachment become a Congressman.

    Is it racist to notice these things? Was it racist for Rush to notice that a certain quarterback got the kid gloves treatment because he was one of the very few black QB’s ever?

    It is easy to avoid uncomfortable truth by slandering the truth-speaker. It only shows YOUR limited intelligence and/or limited honesty.

    martin (cd5d90)

  12. PS

    Personally, if I were black, and not retarded, I would sure as hell know what they were aiming for with the 3/5th rule. To be black and ignorant of that is just like being Protestant and not knowing what Martin Luther was all about, or being Jewish and not knowing about Krystalnacht.

    martin (cd5d90)

  13. #5
    It is a shame that American blacks can be so damn uneducated yet still rise to positions of power. We have dumbed ourselves down so that we all can be “equal” with morons like this, so that no one has hurt feelings.

    The two points, that it is 3/5 not 2/3, and that by rating blacks as 3/5th helped the anti-slavery side, and the fact that this stupid, stupid black man has risen to a position of power foretells the fall of our civilization. We are dumbing ourselves to death
    What the f#%* is this idiot talking about?

    love2008 (5189d2)

  14. You really believe Alcee doesn’t know the 3/5 compromise was to the benefit of the anti-slavery factions of the convention?

    seaPea (3c8938)

  15. RE #13
    So you don’t agree that policies that allow the dumbest among us (like Alcee) to rise to the top is going to end up as part of our downfall? You think our society can excel even as we restrict ourselves?

    Or was your little rant because you are too stupid to read what I said and understand my point? Or perhaps your PC meter pegged, and that triggered your autonomic response?

    You PC drones amuse me. You think that your “moral superiority” is the same thing as intelligence. The fact is you are sheep. You drown out meaningful conversation with your PC bleating. Watch the original “Animal Farm”. Your role is clear.

    martin (cd5d90)

  16. RE #14

    I think I saw a clip of Jeremiah Wright going off on it, and I think I have seen a few “black leaders” and their guilt-ridden white apologists use the 3/5ths thing as a negative. If the media had any balls at all they would do a survey to see what % of the population think it was good that blacks were not weighted nore heavily in the Constitution. It would show gross stupidity in America on all sides, and gross incompetence of our HS teachers.

    martin (cd5d90)

  17. You really believe Alcee doesn’t know the 3/5 compromise was to the benefit of the anti-slavery factions of the convention?

    If he does know it, he is simply using the 3/5 issue to engender bitterness and resentment among blacks, which he can then use for his own political ends. If he doesn’t know it, then he is every bit the corrupt numbskull race-hustler that I think he is.

    JVW (78155f)

  18. Now, on May 31, 2008, a group of elitist insiders of the DNC have effectively said that some of my ancestors’ progeny equal only 1/2 and that men and women in Florida who voted on January 29th are 1/2 also. For a Party which will crown its historic nominee on the 45th anniversary of Dr. King’s ‘I Have a Dream’ speech, the DNC’s decision today is tragically ironic.
    What has that got to do with anything? This man is a disgrace.

    love2008 (5189d2)

  19. Alcee voted, in The House of Representatives, along with 30 other Democrats, not to count Ohio’s electoral votes in the 2004 presidential election.

    nk (6c75e0)

  20. It really is amazing how Alcee Hastings has been rehabilitated by the Democrats. I can’t believe they are so happy to have him as one of their number, not to mention letting him have a megaphone.

    Steven Den Beste (99cfa1)

  21. I wonder whether Alcee’s ancestors were crooks as well.

    daleyrocks (ae5951)

  22. re #17: of course he knows it, he is just hoping to capitalize on ignorance and lack of critical thinking by those who have been taught in the public schools systems the past 20 years.

    re #19: wow, Alcee really has no shame.

    re #21: tsk, tsk – don’t you know that only white people pass down bad traits.

    seaPea (3c8938)

  23. I just knew it would come in handy some day to be able to put fractions over a common denominator, just as my elementary school teacher told me, and this is the day!

    dchamil (0409c2)

  24. #23 dchamil: It took a long time though, didn’t it?

    #14 seapea: I hate to offer it, but there is one legitimate way for the demagogue to justify his use of the 3/5 compromise. Even if the compromise was to the benefit of slaves and the strengthening of the anti-slavery movement at the time, 2 centuries later the necessity of such a compromise is still an indictment of the existence of slavery at our founding. It’s a sad-but-true part of our history, and the 3/5 compromise is a powerful illustrator of how wrong it was. Of course, Alcee the Demagogue will not recall the decades of sacrifice and suffering that Americans (especially white Americans) endured in the cause of ending the need for that compromise. THAT is why he’s a sleezeball. Because he takes a cheap shot that ignores the hundreds of thousands of lives that were sacrificed on his behalf.

    #15 Martin: As you demonstrate, it does not take affirmative action for stupid people to rise to positions of influence in our nation. Quite a variety of people can get elected – or gather influence and constituency enough to be appointed.

    Don (2e931f)

  25. Folks, what I just love is the fact that the Alcee’s of this planet completely forget that what they are whining about is what has gone on for over 15,000 years to every race, one time or another AND, continues to this day everywhere else. What the West did for the first time in history is birth a nation that began with the premise: All men are created equal….then proceeded to get the premise done….it has taken 300 years and it is still not over, but for the “oppressed” to become racists themselves only goes to show what humans all over this planet are really all about: me, me, me! And what makes me laugh the most is that the women haters have also come out of the closet…..is this a great nation or what!

    Sue (f9a0a4)

  26. Alcee is playing the time honored Victim Card per the playbook. He is as corrupt as Sharpton and Jesse Jackson a race baiter as well. How he is given any credibility whatsoever is beyond my comprehension.

    He never was a slave to anything but his own mistaken beliefs and lack of character, values and integrity. He lives in accordance with his personal limitations. He should disqualified for public office due to his actions that were the cause for his impeachment.

    Old Trooper (c3dabf)


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