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One less client for the ACLU Bar.

Another Drew (8018ee) — 5/25/2008 @ 5:44 pm

The robber got popped because he was too greedy. Classic.

Paul (de3f43) — 5/25/2008 @ 5:59 pm

Unless there’s some massively egregious fact about the case that we haven’t been told, there’s no way a Houston grand jury is going to bring in an indictment. I’m surprised the DA is even bothering.

Steven Den Beste (99cfa1) — 5/25/2008 @ 6:55 pm

Wasn’t there a post subsequent to the Horn incident that remarked that there had been a change in TX law that required these cases to be referred to a GJ?
Seems to me that, though it might be considered a waste of legal resources, it is also a brake on reckless prosecutors trying to rail-road a legitimate self-defense into some kind of plea just to inflate his/her conviction record.

Another Drew (8018ee) — 5/25/2008 @ 7:55 pm

The process will be a total waste of taxpayer funds but when compared to what a trial of the robber and the prison food he would consume the taxpayers got a bargin. Find out what Cal weapon he used and replace his bullet.

Scrapiron (c36902) — 5/25/2008 @ 8:38 pm

Good for Texas. Hereabouts, when a very similar thing happened in St. Paul, the shooter was indicted.

Joel Rosenberg (677e59) — 5/26/2008 @ 5:06 am

I think I saw a recent news story that the Joe Horn case was going to a GJ in June.

Anybody heard more?

This case and a few others like it recently may be factors such a GJ will have to consider, one way or another.

jim2 (f70403) — 5/26/2008 @ 7:17 am

One very stupid robber and a very greedy robber now a very dead robber and this was clearly a case of justified homicide and if this had happened in NEW YORK the jerk faced mayor MICHEAL BLOOMBURG would have the attended robber victim in jail knowing that bloomburg is such a jerk

krazy kagu (68f67a) — 5/26/2008 @ 7:21 am

Great comment from the article’s comment section….

More_w00t wrote:
It’s getting really dangerous to be a robbing POS!!!
5/25/2008 2:24:58 PM

rudytbone (93b68e) — 5/26/2008 @ 9:13 am

they need to give Juan a civic award and a box of ammo. there would be a lot less crime here in LA if we could get CCW’s.

instead, only the cops and the crooks have guns, and when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.

redc1c4 (474c0e) — 5/26/2008 @ 9:50 am

The roofer needs to get his story straight. He looked and thought he saw the robber pointing his gun at him again when the guy reached down to pick up the dropped money. The roofer feared for his life. That’s why he fired on the robber.

VG

Voiceguy in LA (e5b52a) — 5/26/2008 @ 11:55 am

I’ve linked back to you here.

http://consul-at-arms.blogspot.com/2008/05/re-quote-of-day.html

Consul-At-Arms (2774b8) — 5/26/2008 @ 8:18 pm

oregon women are so tough, they don’t need guns.

assistant devil's advocate (3a8187) — 5/27/2008 @ 7:14 am

Juan Ibarra for Sheriff!!!

PCD (5c49b0) — 5/27/2008 @ 9:08 am

So these days, all you need to do to get out of a murder charge is toss your wallet and your cell phone onto the victim’s body, and say he was trying to rob you?

Phil (6d9f2f) — 5/27/2008 @ 9:52 am

So these days, all you need to do to get out of a murder charge is toss your wallet and your cell phone onto the victim’s body, and say he was trying to rob you?

To what manner of ignorance do you base that comment, Phil?

C. Norris (bace18) — 5/27/2008 @ 10:05 am

So these days, all you need to do to get out of a murder charge is toss your wallet and your cell phone onto the victim’s body, and say he was trying to rob you?

Don’t forget to plant a gun on him. Gottan plant that gun first…

Scott Jacobs (fa5e57) — 5/27/2008 @ 10:09 am

So these days, all you need to do to get out of a murder charge is toss your wallet and your cell phone onto the victim’s body, and say he was trying to rob you?

I just grind them up in my commercial sausage maker, it can take a whole cow, and then flush them down the sewer.

nk (a415e7) — 5/27/2008 @ 10:20 am

To any police out there, I was just being sarcastic.

nk (a415e7) — 5/27/2008 @ 10:21 am

14, Or be drunk, call your lawers, and pay off the criminal’s parents. eh Phil? Or is this analogy over your head?

PCD (5c49b0) — 5/27/2008 @ 10:27 am

I have no idea if the shooting went down the way this guy said, or not. But look how quickly everyone buys the “I was being robbed at gunpoint” story.

The only person alive to tell the story is the shooter, and he shot the other guy three times in the chest. The shooting occured in the open. I’d reserve judgment just for a while . . . whereas it seems everyone here is eager to give a killer the benefit of the doubt.

It’s interesting how quickly tough-on-crime folks go all soft on violence when it’s against alleged criminals. If it wasn’t the fact that he killed someone he claims is a criminal, I’d think you were a bunch of soft-on-crime liberals who didn’t care about the victim or the victim’s family.

So it occurs to me that the best way to get those tough-on-crime folks to leave me alone if I have murdered someone would be to set my victim up as a criminal. Suddenly their priorities go all backwards, and they’re cheering for the killer.

I wonder if anyone has ever thought of doing that before?

Phil (6d9f2f) — 5/27/2008 @ 1:05 pm

I have no idea if the shooting went down the way this guy said, or not. But I will suggest he murdered the guy in cold blood anyways

Fixed that for ya.

Scott Jacobs (fa5e57) — 5/27/2008 @ 1:12 pm

Phil: Another member of “Does the Sun really Rise in the East?” club.

Another Drew (8018ee) — 5/27/2008 @ 2:54 pm

Phil,

Are you a toker? Only pothead have such a convoluted view of the world where citizens minding their own business and legally defending themselves are the criminals in your eyes.

PCD (5c49b0) — 5/28/2008 @ 5:18 am

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