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8/17/2007

How To Help Deprive What Is Likely A Terrorist Front Group Of Much Needed Funds

Filed under: Law,Terrorism — Justin Levine @ 12:10 pm



[posted by Justin Levine] 

Note to Matthew Levitt and Yale University Press:

Congratulations on forcing the other side to back off on their frivolous libel suit against you. [h/t Instapundit]

This is all part of a dangerous pattern by Islamic extremists in this country.

One important thing you should note, however. You are still entitled to attorney’s fees from the people that brought this lawsuit against you. Under California law, the fact they have now dismissed the suit from fear of losing does not make your motion moot.

Don’t blow this off. By winning your attorney’s fees, you would not only be getting much deserved compensation from your troubles, but you would also be sapping the funds from what is certainly a group of terrorist sympathizers (who are also quite possibly direct financial supporters of terrorist activity).

[posted by Justin Levine]

89 Responses to “How To Help Deprive What Is Likely A Terrorist Front Group Of Much Needed Funds”

  1. Your link wrongly identified Dalell Mohmed as a man, Justin.

    What does that say about the quality of the rest of information presented?

    alphie (015011)

  2. Justin (a/k/a Patterico),

    Congratulations on an Instapundit link. I hope Levitt & Yale take you up on your suggestion.

    DRJ (bfe07e)

  3. What does that say about the quality of the rest of information presented?

    Nothing.

    bour3 (66ba12)

  4. And that is relevant in what possible way? Was this a person a board member in KinderUSA? Was this person also a board member in Holy land foundation? Is this person still a board member? Is this person still managing their web site. And most importantly to Alphie, was this person’s genitiala checked before reporting all this. Here’s a question for you. If a Alphie falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, will it still make no point?

    buzz (9e5c44)

  5. Probably nothing, alphie (comment 1). To the OnlyInIsrael blogger, Dalell Mohmed is just a name that happens to show up on the boards of KinderUSA and the Holy Land Foundation (at least according to Wikipedia in the case of the latter).

    Alphie, if you have some personal knowledge of Dalell Mohmed, by all means do tell us if she was not, in fact, a board member of the HLF. Wikipedia can be wrong, after all.

    Silvering (0ad731)

  6. Condi Rice was on Chevron’s board before she took over America’s security operations then its foreign policy, Silver.

    Shall we assume that Iraq really is all about the oil?

    alphie (015011)

  7. Yes. Because that is exactly the same thing. Good catch. Really, what is it you DO for a living? How can you possibly support yourself with this level of thinking?

    buzz (9e5c44)

  8. Haha, Buzz.

    “level of thinking?”

    Hamas has won both a popular election and a civil war.

    All the smears and wishful thinking in the world will ever bring the hapless PLO back.

    alphie (015011)

  9. What in the hell are you talking about? Can you possibly connect your posts into a coherent sentence? Are you somehow claiming that Hamas isn’t a terrorist organization? Are you further claiming that this thread is dedicated to bringing back the PLO into power? And that Rice setting on the Chevron board is somehow connected to Hamas?

    buzz (9e5c44)

  10. What is it with people who think it somehow clever or relevant to treat a private enterprise like Chevron as something comparable to a terrorist front?

    Is pumping oil a criminal enterprise? What ideology is Chevron killing people to advance, alphie? Is there something immoral about providing the energy that powers your car and heats your house?

    feh…grow up, please.

    Wildmonk (9bd93e)

  11. Alphie, commenting while drunk is never a good idea.

    Robin Roberts (6c18fd)

  12. buzz,

    I just think it’s sad when foreigners play out the tiny little partisan squabbles of their home countries here in America.

    You’re supposed to leave those things behind when you come here.

    After 60 years, it’s a safe bet that both sides have been unreasonable.

    alphie (015011)

  13. Again, how is whatever the hell your talking about remotely connected to the post and your first comment to it?

    buzz (9e5c44)

  14. Justin is suggesting one side of a foreign partisan squabble tie up a U.S. court to sue a group on the other side of a foreign partisan squabble, buzz.

    Don’t our courts have more important things to do?

    Like prosecuting illegal immigrant criminals, maybe?

    alphie (015011)

  15. As a mediator with upwards of two thousand settled civil cases, I would bet that there was a negotiated settlement on a “walkaway” basis meaning a stipulation for dismissal with prejudice, each side to bear its own costs and attorneys’ fees, with mutual releases but no money exchanged.

    Peter (0b8a73)

  16. Ha! Al-phie’s running interference for the jihadis over here now, eh?

    Jeffersonian (7ba05b)

  17. “This is all part of a dangerous pattern by Islamic extremists in this country.”

    Not just in this country.

    Besides counter-suing, a nice follow-up kick to the balls would be for Yale UP to publish Alms for Jihad, the book the Islamists successfully quashed in Britain. The authors surely retain the rights if Cambridge UP can’t publish it.

    Glen Wishard (b1987d)

  18. Justin is suggesting one side of a foreign partisan squabble tie up a U.S. court to sue a group on the other side of a foreign partisan squabble, buzz.

    Matthew Levitt and Yale University Press are foreign partisans? Who knew?

    And stop braying.

    Paul (f54101)

  19. I just don’t want to see America get bogged down in the Middle East for 60 years, Jeffy.

    We’ve got much bigger challenges facing us.

    alphie (015011)

  20. Alphie, your challenge remains coherence. Keep working on it.

    Robin Roberts (6c18fd)

  21. We’ve got much bigger challenges facing us.

    Yeah, like figuring out how you support yourself with this level of thinking. Or why you argue leftist positions since you’re a ‘Staunch Republican.’ Or why every time you comment, we hear braying in the distance.

    Paul (f54101)

  22. Haha, Paul,

    Let’s just say there’s a partisan struggle right here at home…for control of the Republican party.

    I’m on one side…the folks who ran up $4 trillion in debt over the past 6 years and got us mired in Iraq are on the other side.

    Let’s wait until it’s over before we decide who can call themselves “stauch,” okay?

    alphie (015011)

  23. And follows up the incoherence with a thread hijacking…

    Robin Roberts (6c18fd)

  24. Do not feed the trolls. Thank you.

    steve miller (37a105)

  25. I believe it was Paul who played the “Stauch Republican” card, Robin.

    Wrong target…as usual.

    alphie (015011)

  26. Apparently random word generator. That’s the only way he/she/it makes sense.

    buzz (e09efa)

  27. Dalell Mohmed (aka Dallel Mohmed – it is spelled both ways even on the KinderUSA website) was arrested in the West Bank in 2002 on suspicion of transferring funds to suicide bombers. She was not charged, but is barred from re-entering Israel or the West Bank.

    Glen Wishard (b1987d)

  28. I believe it was Paul who played the “Stauch Republican” card, Robin.

    Wrong target…as usual.

    Yup…definitely braying in the distance again.

    Paul (f54101)

  29. Let’s wait until it’s over before we decide who can call themselves “stauch,” okay?

    I myself would never refer to myself as ‘Stauch.’

    I might do it as ‘Staunch.’

    And I will refer to you as a “Staunch Brayer.’

    Paul (f54101)

  30. How do you feel about this guy, Paul:

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/zogby-indictment/

    Think the U.S. government is trying to silence a patriot with its 5 page indictment of him?

    alphie (015011)

  31. Alphie,

    As you know, the point of the post Justin linked is that a person named Dalell Mohmed appeared as a Board member of KinderUSA and of the Holy Land Foundation, a front for Hamas. Do you have some reason to believe the Dalell Mohmed of Kinder USA is different than the Holy Land Foundation’s Dalell Mohmed? Maybe Dalell Mohmed is a common Arab name, like John Smith or Mary Jones. That would be worth discussing.

    But the point of the linked post was not Dalell’s gender, it was that the same name turned up twice and one of those times it was in connection with a known terrorist organization. So unless you have some reason to believe the Mohmeds are different people, it doesn’t matter what gender the author assumed s/he is.

    DRJ (bfe07e)

  32. Think the U.S. government is trying to silence a patriot

    Ah! You found someone that brays louder than you!

    That must have been difficult.

    Other than that, what’s your point?

    Paul (f54101)

  33. Here is a list of unindicted co-conspirators (pdf) in US vs. Holy Land Foundation which includes Dallel Mohmed, who is identified as a member of the US Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee, and/or its organizations.

    HLF’s employee list (pdf) entered as evidence in the trial shows Mohmed was “Director of Media/Emergency.”

    I don’t find anything that proves she’s a woman; you’ll have to ask Mr. Republican about that.

    Glen Wishard (b1987d)

  34. Hey, where did alphie go?

    He must be out facing those bigger challenges…like making an on-topic comment.

    Y’know, like addressing the fact that radical Islam and their apologists attempting to stifle criticism and dissent by using US libel laws…and what we can do to discourage this activity.

    Paul (f54101)

  35. Thanks for reminding me, Glen…the Staunch Brayer is also facing the bigger challenge of backing his/her/its claim that Dalell Mohmed is a woman.

    Paul (f54101)

  36. Sorry to leave you hanging, I was watching the McLaughlin Group. They were talking about Maliki and Ahmadinejad holding hands in Tehran last week.

    Here ya go, Paul:

    “The State Department officials apologized to Dr. Abdelkarim for his treatment, and promised to look into the reasons why he, Dr. Laila al-Marayati of the Muslim Women’s League and chairwoman of KinderUSA, and Ms. Dalell Mohmed of KinderUSA were banned from returning to the West Bank. If able, they offered to assist them wither return. They told the delegation members that there were few options available to consular members when security officials in a foreign country detained a U.S. citizen. ”

    http://tinyurl.com/yq2jnf

    alphie (015011)

  37. I hate it when people in America try to intimidate others through the freedom of speech, like writing a book, only to have professional victims try to manipulate the legal system to prevent that freedom of speech. The religion of global warming has done a great job of squelching free speech in this country. CAIR and other jihad apologist organizations do a great job of claiming Islamophobia and intimidation, when in fact it is their strong arm tactics that create the intimidation. The ACLU has also been a notable practitioner of strong arm legal tactics to break the will of shallow pocketed defendents such as individual school districts and municipalities. Identity political groups, grievance groups, and the loony left all seem to have attended the same seminars on how to exploit the system in this manner.

    Congratulations to Yale Press for standing up to the attempt at censorship.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  38. Ms. Dalell Mohmed of KinderUSA

    Very good, Staunch Brayer!

    There’s hope for you yet. Maybe.

    Now answer Buzz’s questions: “And that is relevant in what possible way? Was this a person a board member in KinderUSA? Was this person also a board member in Holy Land foundation? Is this person still a board member?”

    Paul (f54101)

  39. Oh, and Stach Brayer? See if you ca actually answer the questions without invoking Bush Administration officials, oil companies or war editorials.

    Paul (f54101)

  40. Oops, Staunch

    Paul (f54101)

  41. Paul – Did you know Hillary Clinton was on the board of WalMart for a number of years before her CoPresidency? Don’t libs, you know, absolutely hate WalMart, even though it is the largest private employer in the country? Isn’t that as relevant as the Condi Rice point?

    Alphie is just here to thread jack. It’s what he does. He gets annoyed when you ignore him, though.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  42. “addressing the fact that radical Islam and their apologists attempting to stifle criticism and dissent by using US libel laws”

    They also attempt to stifle criticism by dragging blog discussions off-topic.

    Evil Pundit (38b435)

  43. Well,

    Fair is fair, Paul.

    Is Condi Rice really still workin’ for Chevron?

    Or can only Muslims be smeared by association?

    alphie (015011)

  44. Only Alphie would think that Hamas could even be smeared. Not dissent, on the other side.

    Robin Roberts (6c18fd)

  45. Well,

    Well, Staunch Brayer, I see that answering buzz’s questions without invoking Bush Administration officials, oil companies or war editorials is far too great a challenge for your level of intellect.

    Or can only Muslims be smeared by association?

    The only one that can be smeared is one who staunchly brays at the moon, one whose braying can be heard from a great distance, even in a comment thread. Like this one, Staunch Brayer.

    I’ll bet you’ll bray the loudest when you get caught on the wrong end of these silence-inducing lawsuits with full ACLU approval. The constant melancholy sound you’ll emit will parch your throat.

    Paul (f54101)

  46. Only Alphie would think that Hamas could even be smeared.

    Yep, Staunch Brayer thinks the telling the truth about Hamas is a cheap shot, a hate crime, a vicious racial denigration.

    That’s all we can expect from his level of intellect, Robin.

    Paul (f54101)

  47. Or can only Muslims be smeared by association?

    With association with a pedophile, Jew-killing conman posing as the “last prophet”? Or with association with imposing the Caliphate and Muslim rule on the whole world? Or with association with the torturing to death of homosexuals? Or with association with cutting the lips off women who wear lipstick? Or with association with the death penalty for leaving Islam? Or association with the death penalty for this comment I just made?

    alphie, you are not worth spitting on. I’m sorry I ever wasted time engaging you.

    nk (e3412b)

  48. “I was watching the McLaughlin Group”

    I had no idea they have a cartoon version.

    Association? How about a freaking board member? oh wait. Your saying since this group is Muslim, it stands to reason that it represents all Muslims. You know, like saying if the Aryan Nation has member overlap with the KKK and someone points it out it’s a smear against all white people. Got it Alphie.

    buzz (e09efa)

  49. We seem to be at a dead end, Paul.

    Let’s try a different tack:

    Can you name any Muslim-run charities that help Palestinians that you don’t consider fronts for terrorist organizations?

    alphie (015011)

  50. “… promised to look into the reasons why he, Dr. Laila al-Marayati of the Muslim Women’s League and chairwoman of KinderUSA, and Ms. Dalell Mohmed of KinderUSA were banned from returning to the West Bank. If able, they offered to assist them wither return.”

    Note that this was in 2005. Now that Mohmed has been named as an unindicted co-conspirator of a Hamas franchise, I don’t think the State Department is in a big hurry to help her (or anyone else connected to HLF) get into the West Bank to give charitable donations to the goddamned Al-Aqsa Brigade.

    All I’m saying is, don’t get your hopes up. Lest they be cruelly dashed.

    Glen Wishard (b1987d)

  51. Can you name any Muslim-run charities that help Palestinians that you don’t consider fronts for terrorist organizations?

    Ah-ah-ah, Staunch Brayer. You were asked these first about Dalell Mohmed: “Was this a person a board member in KinderUSA? Was this person also a board member in Holy Land foundation? Is this person still a board member?”

    You can’t bray your way out of this that easy.

    Paul (f54101)

  52. typical.
    “Your link wrongly identified Dalell Mohmed as a man, Justin.

    What does that say about the quality of the rest of information presented?”

    Hey anyone seen those goalposts? They were right over there!

    buzz (e09efa)

  53. Alphie #36,

    Your link is to an anti-Israel organization and here’s your quote from that website (emphasis supplied):

    “The State Department officials apologized to Dr. Abdelkarim for his treatment, and promised to look into the reasons why he, Dr. Laila al-Marayati of the Muslim Women’s League and chairwoman of KinderUSA, and Ms. Dalell Mohmed of KinderUSA were banned from returning to the West Bank. If able, they offered to assist them wither return. They told the delegation members that there were few options available to consular members when security officials in a foreign country detained a U.S. citizen.”

    Now here’s the quote from Washington Report on Middle East Affairs – a more objective organization, unlike the folks from your link – that is noticeably different (emphasis supplied):

    “The State Department officials apologized to Dr. Abdelkarim for his treatment, and promised to look into the reasons why American citizens Dr. Laila al-Marayati of the Muslim Women’s League and chairwoman of KinderUSA, and Ms. Dalell Mohmed of KinderUSA were banned from returning to the West Bank, and see if they could learn the reason behind the Israeli denial. They told the delegation members that there were few options available to consular members when security officials in a foreign country detained a U.S. citizen.”

    Can you spot the difference, Alphie? If so, what does that say about the quality of the rest of the information you’ve presented?

    DRJ (bfe07e)

  54. Hey anyone seen those goalposts? They were right over there!

    Buzz, I suspect that Staunch Brayer bought his goalposts with the wheels already attached. Welding them on himself could prove far too great a challenge for his level of intellect.

    Paul (f54101)

  55. Can you spot the difference, Alphie? If so, what does that say about the quality of the rest of information you’ve presented?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Staunch Brayer trapped by his own link!

    Good work, DRJ!

    Paul (f54101)

  56. You guys forget, this is Superalphie. He isn’t constrained by ordinary logic and common sense. In fact, he is probably engaged in several illogical and unsupportable arguments on a number of different blogs right now.

    buzz (e09efa)

  57. Well, to be fair, Staunch Brayer did back up his point made in #1:

    Your link wrongly identified Dalell Mohmed as a man, Justin.

    So his commenting wasn’t a total loss.

    Paul (f54101)

  58. Coming from Alphie, I am going to need at least three Drs to back that up. Dalell will probably has to give birth also. With lots of witnesses.

    buzz (e09efa)

  59. DRJ,

    I stopped caring about the various flavors of the people involved in the Israeli-Palestinian prepetual squabble about 25 years ago, and I think it was a wise decision….nothing has changed.

    I was just trying to show she was a woman…I didn’t bother to read the propaganda. I imagine one side portrays her as Mother Teresa and the other side says she’s Osama’s right hand girl…who cares.

    So,

    Still waitin’ to see a list of legitimate Muslim-run charities that help out Palestinian kids.

    Who should I send my check to?

    alphie (015011)

  60. He isn’t constrained by ordinary logic and common sense.

    Yep, buzz, to borrow from Bill Whittle, it must be absolutely exhilarating to be able to write so free of the constraints of discipline, study, responsibility and ethics, not to mention the burden of making choices based on evidence, reason, logic or fact.

    Paul (f54101)

  61. My link in comment 52 (Washington Report on Middle East Affairs) has a picture of Dalell Mohmed and it appears to be a photo of a woman. However, for the reasons provided in comment 31, I don’t think Mohmed’s gender is the issue.

    DRJ (bfe07e)

  62. Still waitin’ to see a list of legitimate Muslim-run charities that help out Palestinian kids.

    To repeat:

    Ah-ah-ah, Staunch Brayer. You were asked these first about Dalell Mohmed: “Was this a person a board member in KinderUSA? Was this person also a board member in Holy Land foundation? Is this person still a board member?”

    You can’t bray your way out of this that easy.

    Paul (f54101)

  63. And you won’t get a free pass, Staunch Brayer, by making comments like these:

    I stopped caring about the various flavors of the people involved in the Israeli-Palestinian prepetual squabble about 25 years ago, and I think it was a wise decision….nothing has changed.

    Especially when you write:

    Hamas has won both a popular election and a civil war.

    All the smears and wishful thinking in the world will ever bring the hapless PLO back.

    And:

    Or can only Muslims be smeared by association?

    Paul (f54101)

  64. Paul – I see absolutely no reason to respond to Alphie request for a list of organizations. Let him suggest some instead.

    To me, Alphie is just like a hemorrhoid, an internet pain in the ass.

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    daleyrocks (906622)

  65. Don’t expect consistency with the alphiebot. It is very consistent with its inconsistency. Very zen-like.

    buzz (e09efa)

  66. Paul,

    Can I ask why it matters if she was also a member of The Holy Land foundation?

    It doesn’t mean KinderUSA is a front for Hamas.

    After all the anti-PLO propaganda…America and Israel sem to be supplying them with money and arms now.

    It’s hard to keep up with the hatred so…

    If you are unwilling or unable to name some legitimate Muslim-run charities, KinderUSA is as good an organization as any to send money to.

    alphie (015011)

  67. DRJ:

    Your link is to an anti-Israel organization …

    That’s putting it mildly. I’d call CNI a pro-Hamas and pro-Hisb’allah organization, and if I were as over-medicated as Mr. Republican is I’d call it worse. Like these guys do:

    CNI members espouse fringe conspiracy theories and associate with anti-Semitic extremists. CNI Foundation Chairman Paul McCloskey refered to Israel as “an ugly little nation” and “a potential enemy of the United States.” McCloskey stirred up controversy in 2000 when he was a featured speaker at a conference of the Institute for Historical Review, a Holocaust denial group, appearing with several notorious Holocaust deniers, like Arthur Butz, Robert Faurisson, David Irving and Ernst Zündel. And CNI Chairman Paul Findley has accused the Mossad (Israeli intelligence) of playing a role in the JFK assassination and attempting to kill President George Bush.

    I’m sure “alphie” quoted these lap-drooling cretins by mistake, perhaps as the result of Googling While Intoxicated.

    Glen Wishard (b1987d)

  68. Can I ask why it matters if she was also a member of The Holy Land foundation?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    You missed the point of the whole post! And the comments! Especially DRJ’s link in #31!

    I thought you were up on current events, Staunch Brayer!

    Paul (f54101)

  69. Thanks for the information, Glen. CNI doesn’t stand for ideas I support.

    And Alphie, if you have some extra money and you want to help people around the world, I suggest the Red Cross.

    DRJ (bfe07e)

  70. Haha,

    You guys are hopeless.

    Do you really think they’d lie about her gender?

    And do you really expect Americans to care about a war that’s been going on for 60 years?

    $6 billion of taxpayer money a year going to the Levant.

    While our bridges are falling down.

    Enjoy it while it lasts.

    alphie (015011)

  71. DRJ – The beauty of that post number 70 just comes shining through. Tn how many ways is it wrong? Shall I count them? No, that would imply respect for Alphie distractions.

    I particularly liked the implied tradeoff between domestic infrastructure repairs and aid to the Levant, though. Sheer genius that. Rocket science. Some people actually believe politicians who spout tripe like that.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  72. I thought our bridges were falling down because of global warming. I read that on a lefty blog. We are so selfish. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  73. Oh, this is so ripe for a fisking.

    Haha,

    You guys are hopeless.

    Woe is us! We cannot hope to ever defeat Superalphie! His vast powers of braying are unbeatable!

    Do you really think they’d lie about her gender?

    That happens to be the one point you’ve backed up, Staunch Brayer.

    And do you really expect Americans to care about a war that’s been going on for 60 years?

    It’s been in the news all this time, or hadn’t you noticed, Staunch Brayer?

    $6 billion of taxpayer money a year going to the Levant.

    While our bridges are falling down.

    Hey, we can play that game all day!

    With bridges collapsing and the national debt expected to reach $9 trillion in weeks, Congress continues its spending spree.

    $200,000 earmark to finance a single bus in Michigan

    $200,000 to reconstruct a parking lot in Massachusetts

    $300,000 to renovate an amusement park in Texas

    $50,000 to establish the National Mule and Packer Museum in California

    $250,000 to expand a parking garage in California

    $250,000 for a community center at the county fairgrounds in Ohio

    $265,000 for a cinema in Massachusetts

    $200,000 for a new artificial field in Massachusetts

    $1,000,000 to extend a rail trail by 14 miles

    $200,000 to relocate a library in Connecticut

    And that’s just scratching the surface. Remember, this is Your Democrat Led Congress doleing this out, Staunch Brayer.

    Why, if we looked more, I bet we can find all kinds of unnecessary expenditures that don’t involve any part of the Middle East.

    Enjoy it while it lasts.

    I am definitely enjoying mocking you, Staunch Brayer. I will go to sleep with images of moon-braying silhouettes dancing in my head.

    Paul (f54101)

  74. Paul – This Congress can do it all!!!!

    The most ethical in history to boot.

    That’s why it’s got the high approval rating it’s got!!!

    Thanks Nancy!

    Thanks Harry!

    daleyrocks (906622)

  75. “Do you really think they’d lie about her gender?”

    Well, of course not. I expect YOU to lie about it. Or just be wrong. You know, like you are about everything else. I doesn’t surprise me that you missed the point. Again. And again. I suppose there is a first time for anything. I just never thought I would live to see it.

    buzz (e09efa)

  76. Still waiting for that list of charities.

    Convince me I shouldn’t donate to KinderUSA by providing me with an alternative!

    alphie (015011)

  77. I demand you convince me not to donate to KinderUSA!!!

    By your silence I’ll know that you don’t have any evidence or alternatives.

    Smart, tough!

    And Stupid!

    daleyrocks (906622)

  78. I don’t demand it, daley.

    I’m giving y’all a chance to prove you aren’t just anti-Muslim zealots.

    By providing the names of some “good” charities.

    Pretty simple.

    alphie (015011)

  79. Just send your check to Patterico. He can fill in the name of the payee so you can still get a tax deduction. You fill in the amount. That should work like a charm.

    Don’t you trust Patterico?

    daleyrocks (906622)

  80. If you’ve already exhauted your own search for reputable Palestinian charities, ones that don’t funnel monies to Hamas or Hezbollah, and that is the reason for your request, maybe none exist.

    Why ask/demand here? The exclamation point must have been a mistake, as was the fourth request, right.

    daleyrocks (906622)

  81. daley,

    KinderUSA looks to be an acceptable charity to send money to if you want to help out Palestinians.

    A smear from an obvious partisan fanatic isn’t going to stop anyone but his fellow partisans from sending it money.

    Unless he holds up another charity that does similar work as more worthy of donations, that is.

    Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

    Partisan fanatics are always negative, reasonable people present a balanced account.

    alphie (015011)

  82. Look at a comment thread on patterico with 80 comments and it’s a pretty sure bet that a third of them are Alphie acting like your annoying 9-year-old little brother who has nothing intelligent to say, so he just spouts off semi-relevant drivel to annoy you and get a response. Another third is people acting like the annoyed 10-year-old brother and responding to it.

    Alphie is a troll. His purpose on this list is to get you (and occasionally me) suckers to respond to his provocations. He has nothing to contribute to the conversation. Why Patterico hasn’t banned him, I don’t know, but at least we could stop feeding him. Just don’t respond people, please. I like reading comments on this site, but it’s gotten so that once I see a comment by Alphie, I just leave, because I know that I’ll have to wade through a mountain of inane drivel to see the interesting comments.

    Doc Rampage (ebfd7a)

  83. alphie, you hear that? You’re a troll.

    Christoph (92b8f7)

  84. Actually, Doc, Staunch Brayer provided me with an evening of entertainment.

    Paul (f54101)

  85. A smear from an obvious partisan fanatic isn’t going to stop anyone but his fellow partisans from sending it money.

    Who knew that telling the truth about someone or something is a smear tactic?

    Partisan fanatics are always negative, reasonable people present a balanced account.

    Well, then, you’re a partisan fanatic, Staunch Brayer.

    Paul (f54101)

  86. I enjoy getting involved occasionally in the commenting on a few sites when I have time but mostly lurk as a reader only. I’ve noticed this alphie character hijacking conversations to the point where there was no focus in half the threads on a couple of sites. I know he was eventually banned from PW and I don’t see him any longer on several other sites. I assume he’s been banned on those sites also as I doubt he stops as long as he has any interaction with an audience. There have been a couple of sites I lost the habit of reading because he infects the threads like Jules Crittenden’s blog.

    I followed a link from Instapundit over here and here’s this alphie character doing his usual. It’s one thing to have other points of view supporting their arguments. Even if those arguments seem specious the effort it takes to support them benefits every reader concerned, valid points are made, and my opinions may even be adjusted accordingly.

    Alphie never seems to add anything topical to the conversation. Unlike a drive by troll, he seems to not just persist but increase his presence and as long as he’s engaged will derail any conversation to provide himself a soapbox. This eventually drives thoughtful commenters interested in a linear conversation away and if I represent any standard, casual readers also. Banning him now seems preferable to banning him later after commenters and readers lose interest in the site.

    Just Passing Through (4b3990)

  87. Sinn Fein.

    It might help also if you learned something about Hamas, Israeli policies and actions.

    AF (57ec94)

  88. AF, who are you talking to and what is your point?

    Paul (f54101)

  89. Frankly, AF, your opinions on Israel and Hamas do not interest me. I think you’ve established your extremist POV on that conflict in earlier threads where we learned more than we wanted to.

    Robin Roberts (6c18fd)


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