Saddam May Be Hanged Within Hours
That’s the word from Allah at Hot Air. Look for an announcement later today.
This will be another example of the irrelevance of Big Media, as the networks refuse to air the video that is likely to be made — which will cause millions to flock to their computers to see it.
If I can post it, I will.
Butcher of Baghdad in Custody of Iraqis…
Saddam Hussein has been handed-over to Iraqi Authories by U.S. troops. The former president of Iraq, the evil dictator, known also as the “Butcher of Baghdad, Saddam Hussein will dangle within hours from a rope. The death sentence has been signed by ….
Assorted Babble by Suzie (59ce3a) — 12/29/2006 @ 11:01 amThis has had me rethinking my opposition to the death penalty.
Although I must say, this is different. And if we applied the death penalty to only really heinous crimes I’d be less opposed. Still, its hard to be opposed to the death penalty for a guy like SH (to be clear, I don’t oppose it in his case).
Dwilkers (4f4ebf) — 12/29/2006 @ 11:05 amSaddam’s show trial made Nifong’s antics look like “Inherit the Wind.”
Sad to see so many legal “professionals” acting like a drunken lynch mob….
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 11:09 amIt was indeed a “show trial.” But for whose benefit? Strictly speakign there was no reason why we couldn’t have offed Saddam just as we did his sons. But Spectacle Comes First.
Would there be any reason to keep him alive? Any information he has that we don’t already know? I doubt it. I’ve always felt executing McVeigh was a mistake in that he potentially took all sorts of useful information with him to the grave.
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 11:27 amIt’s stupid. It will make things worse. He’s already a martyr in the eyes of many of those who hated him.
AF (8f7ccc) — 12/29/2006 @ 11:33 am#5 – It won’t make things worse (except for American liberals). It will show Iraqis that there is justice in Iraq.
That’s a tiny move in the right direction, for Iraq. (which is why it’s probably bad for American liberals)
ellersburgwhoresonellis (7085eb) — 12/29/2006 @ 11:43 amSaddam may be a bad guy, eller, but he certainly didn’t receive justice.
All it will show the Iraqis is that it’s okay to kill anyone they disagree with…or reinforce that lesson that we already taught to them by invading their country by mistake.
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 11:48 am#7 – So much wrongness in
ellersburgwhoresonellis (7085eb) — 12/29/2006 @ 12:27 pm…under 50 words! I don’t have time to unpack it all. Neville Chamberlain indeed.
You got one bit right: Saddam didn’t receive justice, because, Saddam had tortured and/or murdered hundreds of thousands. Justice would be for Saddam to be hung hundreds of thousands of times, after torture. And that’s just not possible. (Maybe in Hell, they can do it to him.)
As for the Iraqis: They get to see that their government – and yes, it is THEIR government now – (1) follows due process, and (2) has effective writ. On that basis, it will show the Iraqis there is justice in Iraq.
ellersburgwhoresonellis (7085eb) — 12/29/2006 @ 12:27 pmneville, there’s no such thing as objective “justice”, on this planet there is only “law”. saddam got more “justice” than mussolini did from the italians, or ceaucescu did from the romanians. you gonna be a brutal dictator, you better stay on top and keep your fickle patron happy at all times. i don’t care what they do with him; i’ll probably watch the video just for the novelty, never seen a hanging before.
assistant devil's advocate (c9bfdd) — 12/29/2006 @ 12:30 pmdavid ehrenstein asks if there’s any information he has that we don’t already know. i submit that one of the reasons the administration wants him dead is the information he has about uncle sam’s past involvement that isn’t widely known.
What a bunch of loons nest here! LOL Although, some parts or aspects of ADA’s comment made sense.
ellersburgwhoresonellis (7085eb) — 12/29/2006 @ 12:36 pmSaddam’s been in American custody since he was captured, ellers.
I can’t imagine the second-rate Iraqi actors we hired to mumble through the script written by some neocon screenwriter-wannbes fooled even the dimmest Iraqi citizens.
I agree with ada, we’re killing him to keep what he knows a secret…
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 12:40 pmDwilkers wrote:
As a capital punishment opponent, I have always thought that other such opponents made a big mistake when they tried to personalize opposition to specific cases. I didn’t think that we should have executed Tookie Williams, because I don’t think we ought to execute anyone, but I saw the “oh, he’s such a good guy, he wrote a children’s
Dana (3e4784) — 12/29/2006 @ 1:08 pmHe was buoght and paid for for so many years; installed with the help of the CIA, and now people crow over his execution as if history means nothing.
It’s a pathetic joke.
AF (8f7ccc) — 12/29/2006 @ 1:41 pmSaid by someone who obviously believes that brown people are better off under brutal dictators (even if a few young girls need to be raped…those omlets and broken eggs ya know) because at least the brown-people country is stable. And stable is most valuable least one upset the pronouncing white, compassionate liberal from enjoying his half-caf latte and waxing derisively over those stupid US soldiers who were brainwashed with passe patriotism.
Darleen (543cb7) — 12/29/2006 @ 3:01 pm[…] Patterico’s Pontifications » Saddam May Be Hanged Within Hours […]
Right Voices » Blog Archive » Must See TV: Saddam To Die By 10:00 P.M. EST (1466f5) — 12/29/2006 @ 3:09 pmPerhaps that should read if you have no idea how to make an omlet, don’t go around breaking eggs, Darleen.
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 3:18 pmDarleen obviously feels brown people need to be brutally raped by white ones.
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 3:26 pmSo I suppose Darleen that you’re appalled that the CIA gave him the list his used to round up and kill a few thousand people after Qasim was overthrown in 63?
AF (8f7ccc) — 12/29/2006 @ 3:33 pmAnd you’re appalled at the history of US support for this criminal?
AF
Saddam was a Soviet client…and then a French one…
far far more than an ever an American one
And exactly where does something that happened under a Democrat President over 40 years ago give Saddam a “get home free” card for the mass graves, bounties on Jews, rape rooms of the last fifteen years?
Darleen (543cb7) — 12/29/2006 @ 3:41 pmI’m coming to believe the Nev/David sockpuppet is really one of those autogenerating pieces of script spitting out non-sequitor leftist bumpersticker sayings.
Darleen (543cb7) — 12/29/2006 @ 3:43 pmNot everyone is gifted with such a finely tuned moral compass as you, Darleen.
The necons may believe that by lynching Saddam, they are absolved of responsibility for the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis they have killed…but I can’t perform such moral gymnastics.
Killing Saddam is just another pointless death chalked up to our grubby little crusade to me…forgive me if I don’t join you in your one handed watching of the video highlights.
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 4:08 pmNeville
If excuting Saddam is (in your world) is the same as enemy irregulars killed in battle by American troops
then you must hold rape and love making the same because they both involve sexual intercourse.
Your kind of moral foolishness excuses evil and punishes good.
Again, I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt by calling you merely a fool (rather than a quisling)
I’m an optimist that way
Darleen (543cb7) — 12/29/2006 @ 4:24 pm[Comment deleted. — P]
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 4:29 pmSaddam is by any reasonable definition, a monster. The deaths he is personally responsible for are countless. The brutality and depredation he visited upon on those he did not kill is indescribable. Those who argue for leniency, like it or not, advocate on behalf of a monster.
Its O.K. with me if you choose that path. But let’s not allow ourselves, or you, to pretend that it is something it is not. You literally assume the position of Devil’s Advocate. And not in the cutesy sense. (Pardon ADA)
Neville, David and now AF are provacatuers. Trolls in any other language. Your collective contributions demean an otherwise worthwhile conversation. Catch a hike.
Dump ’em Patty.
Ms. Judged (f2e636) — 12/29/2006 @ 4:34 pm“Patty”?
George W. Bush is by any reasonable definition, a monster. The deaths he is personally responsible for are countless. The brutality and depredation he visited upon on those he did not kill is indescribable. Those who argue for leniency, like it or not, advocate on behalf of a monster.
Its O.K. with me if you choose that path. But let’s not allow ourselves, or you, to pretend that it is something it is not. You literally assume the position of Devil’s Advocate. And not in the cutesy sense.
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 4:39 pmHehe Darleen,
I don’t think you are capable of admitting innocent Iraqis have died because America invaded their country.
Are you?
Morality to you seems to equal selective ignorance.
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 4:42 pm“I’m beginning to believe Darleen is Michelle Malangalang’s Evil Twin.”
Go fuck yourself, racist.
kl (15574e) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:03 pmDarleen it looks like the execution’s going to be coming up very soon, so set you Tivo and rush right out to 7/11 to get fresh batteries for your dildo.
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:07 pmObviously you have her mistaken for your boyfriend, dipshit.
kl (15574e) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:10 pmDon’t tell me Darleen looks like THIS!
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:12 pm“Saddam was a Soviet client…and then a French one…
AF (8f7ccc) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:13 pmfar far more than an ever an American one”
Darleen, you’re pathological. You ignore the history or you make it up. We’ve been through this before I think.
Your hyperlinks mean nothing, racist.
kl (15574e) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:16 pmWhy are you calling me a racist?
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:26 pmBecause you’re a racist, racist.
[All right. Tone it down, all of you. — P]
kl (15574e) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:27 pmAha, a Tautologist is in the house.
David Ehrenstein (7a0a1d) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:30 pmThe racist pretends not to understand why people pick up on his racism. Enjoy that dunce cap.
kl (15574e) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:32 pmMy recollection is that there was at least one other defendant sentenced to death along with Saddam Hussein and another defendant who received a life sentence but the court remanded for imposition of the death penalty. I assume some of these sentences were also appealed and might be final. Have there been reports indicating whether only Saddam will be executed or if there will be other sentences carried out with his?
DRJ (51a774) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:42 pmsomebody’s casting racial and sexual aspersions in here! that’s a good sign that they don’t have anything else.
assistant devil's advocate (302e50) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:43 pmi’m gonna watch the hanging one-handed too. something like this calls for a cold pilsner urquell, or a glass of chinaco reposado with a quartered lime, depending on what time it is. the guy tortured his own soccer team when they didn’t win games.
hi there ms. judged, i bean just fine, but no hawg chinook yet this year. can’t think of any snark for you today, but as scarlett o’hara observed, tomorrow is another day.
I should have looked around the internet before asking my last question, because I see there will be three executions in Iraq tonight:
DRJ (51a774) — 12/29/2006 @ 5:52 pmI’m struck by the image, and perhaps even the symbolism, of three executions. I wonder if the number 3 has a special significance to Muslims or Iraqis?
Doubtless David and Neville weeped for Goering and Mussolini. Peace in our time and all that.
What a load of garbage. We should have hanged Saddam a long time ago. Swinging Osama and Zawahari and a few others would do wonders as well and make the world a far better place. Addition by subtraction.
We should have hanged the Blind Sheik.
Well, there’s no fool like a liberal. “The world’s not perfect. I hate myself/my country! I love murderers!”
Jim Rockford (e09923) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:13 pmThe only success in nation-building was run by liberals, jim.
Your kind has only brought death to the world.
If killing innocents in an attempt to stabilize Iraq is a hangin’ offense is the president the neocons want to set…let’s hope their worn out “moral equivalence” get out of jail free card works outside of our rather porous borders…
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:22 pm“The only success in nation-building was run by liberals, jim.”
Sesame Street doesn’t count, sweetie.
kl (15574e) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:29 pmDRJ wrote:
Maybe they had three guys sentenced to death, and it was simply practical to do all three at once. Why does there need to be some special significance to the number?
Dana (556f76) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:32 pmDana,
I don’t think there is. It’s probably just the way things worked out. But I still find it striking.
DRJ (51a774) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:37 pmThe crier of Peace In Our Time wrote:
One would have thought, Mr Chamberlain, that you were sophisticated enough to see the difference between attempting to liberate people from a brutal dictatorship, and using mass murder to impose and maintain a totalitarian system.
But, perhaps not. As I recall, the first Neville Chamberlain was perfectly willing to trade putting people under Nazi slavery to avoid anything as messy as resisting the dictator. Is it possible that, as his namesake, you have selected your internet nom de guerre more accurately than anyone else?
Dana (556f76) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:37 pmThat was back when liberals still loved the US and its ideals unlike today when liberals are all a bunch of potty-mouthed fags who hate the US.
Dubya (c16726) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:44 pmPerhaps it is you guys who have changed, Dubya…
Neville Chamberlain (80a4fa) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:48 pmWhat if Capt. Jamil Hussein is the source for the AP’s report of Saddam Hussein’s execution? He seems to be the AP’s go-to guy for Sunni deaths in Iraq, but then we wouldn’t know whether to believe the report or not.
I’m kidding, of course, but it would be surreal … not unlike this execution.
DRJ (51a774) — 12/29/2006 @ 6:56 pmTHANK YOU.
actus (10527e) — 12/29/2006 @ 7:12 pmJeebus, but I could improve the average intelligence of the posts here tonight with random typing.
Kevin Murphy (0b2493) — 12/29/2006 @ 7:16 pmOh, you’re not a potty-mouth.
kl (15574e) — 12/29/2006 @ 7:16 pmDrudge has a banner that Saddam was executed shortly before 6 AM Baghdad time, which I think was 10 PM EST.
DRJ (51a774) — 12/29/2006 @ 7:19 pmPlease don’t engage Neville. It distracts him from his disc wiping responsibilities here at Video Village/DVD Destination. If this keeps up, I will have to let him go, I won’t be able to let him keep living in the storeroom, and I’ll have to deal with his mother (my scary sister Judy).
Uncle Herb (b86663) — 12/29/2006 @ 7:22 pmTPM
Reuters, December 29th, 2006 18:35 GMT …
The White House declined to comment on the timing.
“That is a matter for the Iraqi people, we are observers to that process. They are a sovereign government and they will make their own decisions regarding carrying out justice,” spokesman Scott Stanzel said in Crawford, Texas.
AP, December 29th, 2006 10:02 PM Eastern
An adviser to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Saddam would be executed before 6 a.m. Saturday, or 10 p.m. Friday EST. Saddam and others were convicted of murder in the killings of 148 Shiite Muslims from an Iraqi town where assassins tried to kill Saddam in 1982.
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The time was agreed upon during a meeting Friday between U.S. and Iraqi officials, said the adviser, who declined to be quoted by name because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
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By the way, they hung him just now.
AF (8f7ccc) — 12/29/2006 @ 8:00 pm