Blogger Threatens Jeff Goldstein’s Two-Year-Old Son
Some blogger — a psychology professor, no less — has made threatening comments about Jeff Goldstein’s son. Just to take one example:
[…] as I said elsewhere, if I woke up tomorrow and learned that someone else had shot you and your tyke it wouldnt slow me down one iota. You arent human to me.
So if you could just tell me the AGE and SEX of your tyke, Id be stoked!
This woman has problems. How would you like to be one of her students?
Jeff has much, much more.
P.S. My friend Roberta says I don’t blog about my kids enough. My wife says I blog about them, and our personal life, altogether too much. This is a good example of why my wife says this — and why she may be right.
UPDATE: Jeff’s site has been under a DoS attack (two, actually) for much of the day.
UPDATE x2: Much more here. The woman has apparently been forced to resign. She blames Goldstein, of course. And some unhinged leftists are defending her! For example, the “Liberal Avenger” says that it is not “an enormous crime against decency” to threaten to shoot an innocent two-year-old child because you dislike his father’s politics.
I am speechless. Apparently, some leftists will defend absolutely anything, as long as it lines up with their politics.
I have spent decades working in American universities and I can tell you that there is nothing surprising or isolated about this woman’s sickness. Psychology indeed. The academy is society’s sick man, and because of tenure and the fact that the sick are systematically replacing themselves with the even sicker, it is refusing the only medicine that will save American higher education.
Too damned bad for any students who might actually want to learn something in school. As far as contemporary faculty go, they really can go to hell.Federal Dog (9afd6c) — 7/7/2006 @ 4:09 am
I was reading some of the threads on his blog where this woman posted and she was getting progressively stranger as the posts went on. Definitely unstable.sharon (fecb65) — 7/7/2006 @ 4:43 am
She appears to be mentally ill. I wonder why he hasn’t banned her?
My guess is that he isn’t afraid of her actually doing anything – nor should he be.
[Unhinged people do unhinged things. I think it’s a police matter. I note you don’t really condemn her. — P]The Liberal Avenger (5f0af6) — 7/7/2006 @ 5:49 am
Jeffy already exhibits signs of paranoia, so this is really setting him off. She knows just how to push his buttons. That said however, Im not saying that she should have done that (assuming Jeffys tale is true).
Ann Coulter wannabe Michele Malkin is doing more than her share of damage in this department. Unleashing her hate horde on a woman who then later committed suicide is soft terrorism. And Mad Malkins not even being apologetic about it either. Lowlife. http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/06/malkins-folly/
[Incredible. Some academic is physically threatening Goldstein’s son, and you’re virtually yawning. Meanwhile, Malkin publishes a public official’s contact info, some scumbag at Reason writes a pathetic post trying to connect that to the official’s suicide, and you fall for it. Un, freakin’, believable. — P]Psyberian (dd13d6) — 7/7/2006 @ 5:50 am
[…] Because if you’re not anonymous, the sickest people on the Internet sickest people on the Internet (hate tip: Patterico) know who you are. I knew Frisch was an idiot, but I never knew she was that depraved. […]damnum absque injuria » Why All Bloggers Should Stay Anonymous (38c04c) — 7/7/2006 @ 6:00 am
Pysberian, out of the five people you talk about, Malkin, Coulter, Denton, Goldstein, and the commenter making sickening and threatening remarks about Goldstein’s son, there’s only one lowlife. Hint: it isn’t any of the first four. Defend or deflect again and you will fall into the same category.Anwyn (1d2652) — 7/7/2006 @ 6:17 am
Denise Denton deserved criticism for creating a cushy job for her partner, and for failing to provide campus security for the military recruiters when the university knew well in advance that trouble was possible.
Suicide is the coward’s way out. If you want to feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for the devastated people left behind. Suicide is contemptable.JackOkie (c0e22a) — 7/7/2006 @ 6:19 am
She is one twisted sister. I read through all the comments. The way Jeff’s readers had all her information including her picture (the picture was from Darleen who also comments here) and had even forwarded it to the FBI before the evening was out was a marvelous thing in itself. I had thought them to be a bunch of rowdies but they took this dead serious.nk (956ea1) — 7/7/2006 @ 7:08 am
your wife is right. listen to her. security comes from personal rules of engagement, not from guards or guns, and information is a weapon too.assistant devil's advocate (593ba6) — 7/7/2006 @ 7:56 am
you don’t know how many and what kind of freaks are out there. just when you think you’ve seen the freakiest thing in town, something else comes along to blow your mind. california law protects prosecutors from having their addresses disclosed on certain public databases, but the law doesn’t reach the well-known stalker service websites (there are other techniques you can use to make yourself almost invisible to them, as a “privacy fetishist”, maybe i’ll comment on them some time).
here’s something else that may or may not be news or make you happy: nobody really gives a damn about your personal life. you are by no means the only blogger to succumb to the narcissistic impulse to inflict, e.g., the details of your inability to get chocolate ice cream/waffle cones at the wherever on an innocent, unsuspecting universe. many blogs have moments of autoconversation akin to robert deniro in the men’s room in “taxi driver”. are you talking to me?
Saying someone appears to be mentally ill seems to take care of that. She certainly seems off her rocker.actus (ebc508) — 7/7/2006 @ 7:58 am
Out of respect for Patterico, I’ll refrain from responding in the manner you deserve.
The reason JeffG didn’t ban her is because she was begging for it. So, we started ignoring her taunts and she ramped it up all out of control.
That’s when I went a googling and found out this is a pattern. She stalked my Cotillion sister, Cassandra for weeks, alternately begging Cass to ban her and saying things like Cass’ husband was a babykiller, or being rational.
And she did much of the same thing to Prof. Bainbridge.
And that’s only a couple of the blogs she has stalked with vile, over-the-top flames — now for several years.
JeffG is “paranoid”? When it comes to ones own children, that’s a fine line you don’t want to be wrong about. Especially when this “professor” makes a habit of this threatening behavior.
And you’re just plain wrong about Malkin. I think Patterico is kind in attributing your remarks to gullibility.Darleen (81f712) — 7/7/2006 @ 8:03 am
In most state, persons who work aroung young people are required to take training and a background check.
I guess college students aren’t considered “young people.”Neo (cba5df) — 7/7/2006 @ 8:47 am
I note you don’t really condemn her.
This condemnation requirement so popular amongst the strident in blogland is ridiculous.
“WHEN WILL THE MODERATE MUSLIMS OF THE WORLD CONDEMN THE HEAD-LOPPERS?”
In my part of the world it goes without saying that beheadings and deranged threats against children are unacceptable. The condemnation is implicit.
Do you really think that my failure to explicitly condemn the threats indicated my tacit approval of them?The Liberal Avenger (5f0af6) — 7/7/2006 @ 9:36 am
Do you really think that my failure to explicitly condemn the threats indicated my tacit approval of them?
Ironic, coming from someone who believes Malkin killed Denice Denton.Darleen (81f712) — 7/7/2006 @ 9:48 am
“In my part of the world it goes without saying…”
I can say from experience that a good many things, which shouldn’t be said, are said everyday on your website. It exemplifies the worst in ugly, vulgar, and base expression.
You and your commenters vie to outdo each other in filthy language, vile invective, and disgusting characterization. And, there isn’t the first thing “liberal” about it. Your site’s a waste of time and a cesspool full of repulsive jerks. Who, BTW, have a rotten record for accepting criticism.Black Jack (d8da01) — 7/7/2006 @ 10:45 am
Thinking about Poster #9—the post starts off nicely about weird people in the blogosphere, and then veers into oddness itself. “Nobody gives a damn” about Patterico’s family postings, says #9. It is always amazing to me how many people think that their personal opinion constitutes natural law.
#9 may not care for personal posts. Fair enough. #9 can skip them. Or Patterico may not choose to write any more of them. Personally I don’t mind them (though I don’t believe that my opinion is necessarily the norm). Patterico’s post about the passing of his father, for example, was deeply moving and gave me a lot to think about regarding my own father.
Again, this is my opinion only. Patterico can post what he wishes, and readers can read or ignore as they please. Freedom for all, eh?
It seems to me that people often say “everbody” or “nobody” when they really mean “in my own personal opinion.”Mark (57b266) — 7/7/2006 @ 11:02 am
Well said – you beat me to it.
And Assistant Devil’s Advocate – don’t think for a minute you can ever speak for me (when you say things like “nobody really gives a damn . .” ) I personally like Patterico’s personal posts. And I’m not the only one who does.CStudent (59bfb8) — 7/7/2006 @ 11:38 am
oh, i do skip clicking on them, but the titles tell the story. sure i’m for “freedom for all” and i acknowledge your right to tell strangers about your ice cream preferences, eating habits, sex life…maybe a myspace page could hold all the fascinating quirks about you that inquiring minds are dying to know!
the refrain from an old phil ochs song comes to mind:
“and i’m sure it wouldn’t interest
outside of a small circle of friends…”
[Well, as I say in the post, some people enjoy these posts. Some, like assistant devil’s advocate, prefer posts where they can speak gleefully about the prospect of Israeli soldiers getting chopped up and mailed home in pieces. — Patterico]assistant devil's advocate (50af70) — 7/7/2006 @ 11:53 am
[…] However, there are more often credible examples of threats of bodily injury perpetrated by the Left – again, in accordance with their established beliefs and their mode of operation. Patterico’s Pontifications records just one among many, wherein a blogger, Jeff Goldstein, has been threatened with injury to himself and to his toddler-aged son. […]Whither The Fool? » Some of Mr. Dean’s Domestic Terrorists (1f39d6) — 7/7/2006 @ 1:23 pm
As this is an extrordinary circumstance I will again break rule number one (ignore actus).
actus, saying someone appears to be mentally ill is certainly not the same as a condemnation. Your own pseudonym suggests you should know this. But thanks for confirming to everyone how pathetic you are in your compulsion to be a mindless contrarian, even when the subject is sick threats made against an infant. You can be sure that Jeff (and PW posters generally, if possible) will be made aware of your moronic comment.Karl (2c7cdf) — 7/7/2006 @ 1:34 pm
Liberal Avenger sez:
The condemnation is implicit.
In some other world, you’d be right. But our modern world is one in which, for example, Palestinian terrorists begin firing rockets at civilian towns in Israel ONE DAY after Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza, then dig a three hundred yard-long tunnel from which to launch attacks and capture hostages–and the U.N. “condemns” Israel.
So unfortunately, your statement is naive.fool (9fe67a) — 7/7/2006 @ 1:45 pm
Really? To me there are two options: they either are mentally ill or they’re not. If they are, then there isn’t that much to condemn. Its just sad. If they’re not, then its quite a condemnation to tell someone that is sane that they are acting so wrongly as to seem insane.
At least that’s how I figure it.
Sick threats? Are you sure that’s condemnation enough? You didn’t spell out that it was wrong. Just sick.actus (6234ee) — 7/7/2006 @ 2:05 pm
You can be sure that Jeff (and PW posters generally, if possible) will be made aware of your moronic comment.
Actually, we’ve had our fill, thank you very much. Pass the bicarbonate of soda, please.Tongueboy (65df6e) — 7/7/2006 @ 2:22 pm
Do you think the Dos attacks on Jeff’s site has anything to do with this Deb thing?rightwingsparkle (a58b05) — 7/7/2006 @ 2:28 pm
I think the rest of the faculty should do an analysis of her email and give us the name for her disorder.Merv Benson (952066) — 7/7/2006 @ 2:39 pm
I thought at first she was just a typical leftwing nutjob, although a bit crankier than some and even less inclined to have an actual discussion about anything. She came in swinging her PhD around like it was a big d*ck, which really failed to impress anyone at all. Then she started getting freaky. It got worse and worse over a couple of days, and then out of the blue she posted one completely lucid comment. And then the meltdown. There’s some seriously weird stuff going on in her head, it seems. Here’s a post of hers on a different blog from January of ’05:DevilDog (4fb1d2) — 7/7/2006 @ 3:26 pm
I hope nobody complains to the loony’s academic employer. She’ll get a promotion and a raise.Bleepless (c90383) — 7/7/2006 @ 3:32 pm
Again – clearly mental illness. It would be nice if she didn’t spend her time trolling on conservative blogs. If someone knows who she really is, perhaps they can try to get her help?The Liberal Avenger (5f0af6) — 7/7/2006 @ 4:08 pm
“Again – clearly mental illness. It would be nice if she didn’t spend her time trolling on conservative blogs. If someone knows who she really is, perhaps they can try to get her help?”
Thorazine. Lots and lots of thorazine. And put her in a nice comfy padded rubber room. Oh, and Liberal Avenger, since you are sooooooo caring, you can wipe the spittle off her chin when she drools for real, rather than just on the internet.RickZ (7f6097) — 7/7/2006 @ 4:20 pm
Apparently mental illness removes one from any possible blame.
How about this? What if she is legally sane and is just very very angry that the rest of America isn’t as “progressive” as she is?
Do I get to condemn her then for her threat of violence?Bostonian (a37519) — 7/7/2006 @ 4:28 pm
That is scary…cuz she WAS a director at the National Science Foundation for a time..around 2002/03.
The more I read about her, the more I think her pattern of stalking has escalated…
I don’t think she’s harmless.Darleen (81f712) — 7/7/2006 @ 4:37 pm
I’ll admit I started out thinking she was when she first showed up over at PW, but when I ran across that little nugget after witnessing her meltdown I changed my mind. I’ve tried to post it to PW as a sort of warning for Jeff, but of course the site’s been mostly down all day.DevilDog (4fb1d2) — 7/7/2006 @ 4:53 pm
“Do you really think that my failure to explicitly condemn the threats indicated my tacit approval of them?”
Well, Jeff is a conservative. But thank you for clarifying, somewhat.
I’ve had a couple of stalkers over the years, and wouldn’t you know it? One of them was a college professor. He was also a self-described communist, but I’m sure that was neither here nor there.Jim Treacher (c3be1b) — 7/7/2006 @ 5:08 pm
giving you the benefit of the doubt patterico, your “gleefully” is just a misapprehension and not a deliberate twisting of what i said.assistant devil's advocate (c81a98) — 7/7/2006 @ 9:50 pm
i said that to underscore the disproportionate expenditure of resources (including 48 million dollars of my country’s money without my country’s advance permission) in comparison to the resource sought to be recovered, one israeli soldier, in a context where a dozen or so palestinian children had also been sacrificed as collateral damage by the same irrational decisionmaker.
about thirty palestinians have been killed so far during the most recent incursion, plus one additional israeli soldier who isn’t getting anywhere near as much publicity as the live one.
if you genuinely desire to make peace with someone, trying to empathize with their position is a good starting point. the palestinians have used captured israeli soldiers in the past for prisoner exchanges, which they looked to do in this instance until israel rejected it (so far) and killed about 30 of them (so far). at some point they may conclude that a dead soldier is less trouble than a live one.
as an american, i have to ask what’s in the best interest of my country? how about 1) real peace in the middle east that we don’t have to bribe the parties to undertake like we did at camp david, and 2) seeing our 48 mil covered. a more evenhanded approach between the parties would bolster our role as an honest broker and help secure our objectives.
At some point they may conclude that a dead soldier is less trouble than a live one? At some point? Since when is a dead Jew any trouble at all to those scumbags?CraigC (9cd021) — 7/7/2006 @ 11:06 pm
Giving them land that you captured from somebody else in a defensive war isn’t enough empathy for you?Dave (5977b0) — 7/8/2006 @ 12:13 am
assistant devil’s advocate:
My most effective response to your denial of glee is simply to quote your entire post:
Sounds gleeful to me.Patterico (50c3cd) — 7/8/2006 @ 12:22 am
ADA is wrong. Let’s be frank: You provide an essential public service by telling us where we can and cannot get decent ice cream. ADA does not speak for many of us here.Federal Dog (9afd6c) — 7/8/2006 @ 4:06 am
The Liberal Avenger noted that the lady appeared to be mentally ill, based solely on a single action; I’d give him the benefit of the doubt on this one, ’cause he’s claiming her action was insane.
And what LA didn’t tell you, even though he asked, directly, why Mr Goldstein hasn’t banned the lady in question, is that Mr Goldstein has banned LA from posting comments on Protein Wisdom. From LA’s perspective, it would have seemed to help his argument: “I got banned for making a snarky comment about X topic, while she didn’t get banned for threatening his kids.”Dana (3e4784) — 7/8/2006 @ 6:41 am
Has anybody been able to access Protein Wisdom today? I cannot. I cleared my browser cache just in case my browser was bringing up an old file but I still get “cannot find server”. I am curious as to the source of the DoS attacks.nk (f58916) — 7/8/2006 @ 6:51 am
NK, I just tried, same result.Dana (3e4784) — 7/8/2006 @ 6:57 am
that isn’t glee, just dismissal of his fate relative to the attitude of you and many of your commenters, who seem dismissive of the fates of the palestinian children killed in the recent airstrikes, some of whom also went home to their families in pieces, but none of whom wore an army uniform or carried a gun when they were blown up. i’ve already stated what the objective of an american should be here, and i stand by my comments on this issue.
i’m surprised to see a demand for ice cream counsel here, as opposed to legal counsel/analysis/punditry. maybe i was wrong that nobody gives a damn about your insights into what i consider fluff. well, i can do fluff too, i think haagen-dazs is real good ice cream, particularly the chocolate and vanilla bean flavors, and i like to add stuff to it to make it taste better:
a little half-and-half mooshed in will give it a homemade consistency.
several drops of lemon juice added to the vanilla is transformative.
high end cocoa, e.g., pernigotti or valrhona, which you can get from williams-sonoma. if all you’ve ever had is hershey’s, you’ve never really had cocoa, and if you love chocolate, you owe it to yourself.
fruit-based liqueurs, grand marnier, cointreau, kirsch, slivovitz or our own great local pearjack. pomegranate juice reduction.
salt. some people are surprised to hear that adding just a little salt to your ice cream will accentuate its flavors.
can we do margarita recipes next week? everybody who has ever tasted them acknowledges that my margaritas are the best in the world.
[I don’t recall being dismissive of the deaths of any children. But I do question whose fault they are. If terrorists are going to fire rockets and then hide among children, then they are trying to create child martyrs, and it is they who don’t a damn about children’s lives. — P]assistant devil's advocate (93635c) — 7/8/2006 @ 8:32 am
Well, ADA has a perfect right to have choices of what he would like to read. My point was that this is Patterico’s blog, not ADA’s. If he doesn’t like Patterico’s posts, he can skip that post, or find another blog…or perhaps best have his own blog. The latter choice is best because then ADA can restrict all discussion to whatever he likes. He can even be as snarky as he likes on his own blog.
But this isn’t his blog, nor mine.
The blogosphere is all about personal choice. I mean, I don’t think that a lack of capitalization is an affectation. Not most of the time. It’s a choice, and if it bothers me, I ignore or skip it.
More the point of this thread, friends, I think it is deeply disturbing that Jeff Goldstein’s blog is out of commission after the bizarre attacks I have been reading about. The woman in question seems to post only to outrage others—I hope that she has not graduated to DOS attacks.
Again, why don’t people like that just move on, instead of being nasty and insulting (read up on her history and you will see what I mean)?Mark (e71505) — 7/8/2006 @ 9:21 am
Excuse an old dog for liking ice cream.
Sheesh!Federal Dog (9afd6c) — 7/8/2006 @ 9:52 am
[…] P.S. I suspect you already know the background on this, but if not, it’s here. […]Patterico’s Pontifications » Issuer of Toddler Death Threats Loses Job (421107) — 7/8/2006 @ 10:20 am
Question to the legal eagles out there: Isn’t public incitement to violence (in this case, the rape and subsequent murder of an infant) speech that is legally out of bounds? Ms. Frisch is a resident of Tucson, AZ, according to a blog post of hers somewhere. Should the Tucson police be informed of this series of threatening posts? Isn’t this type of behavior the kind of thing that will get a person landed on a “watch” list for sex offenders? Or don’t stalker laws apply somehow?SK (5ddb65) — 7/8/2006 @ 10:27 am
I suspect that Jeff didn’t ban the lady in question in order to give her enough rope to hang herself. Which she did in fine fashion.Galen (fc4d01) — 7/8/2006 @ 11:01 am
As incitement. No. as a true threat, maybe.actus (6234ee) — 7/8/2006 @ 11:09 am
a number of people have told me i should have my own blog. i’ve never felt hip enough to start one, and i tell my friends to imagine how egotistical and overbearing i would be if i didn’t have to look at them when i was talking. i’ve also questioned whether there aren’t more bloggers than readers in the blogosphere, many commenters here have their own blogs, apparently so does the “deb” woman who threatened the goldstein fellow’s toddler, and it is alleged that somebody is now doing a ddos attack on goldstein’s host as part of this extended hostility. blogging is also time-consuming, i’ll bet patterico puts 45-60 minutes a day in, on top of his job and family. what evidence is there to suggest that if i started a blog, i could assemble a chamber orchestra with as many loonies (not every single one of you, to be sure) as patterico has?assistant devil's advocate (93635c) — 7/8/2006 @ 11:10 am
it’s too gorgeous outside now to spend any more time on the internet today, best wishes to all, loonies and non-loonies alike.
Arizona psych professor threatens life of 2-year old child…
Again I have to wonder about the mental state of our friends on the lefthand side of the sphere when people publish comments that move from insults to threats against children. Protein Wisdom’s site is down, but the comments have been preserved….Cao's Blog (1466f5) — 7/8/2006 @ 11:58 am
Jeff is still down as of this time.
Sometimes I disagree with Jeff (the William Bennett Is Not A Racist issue for instance – and no, the Racism of Bill was not the issue). Enough to get him really hot under the collar. For several days. None the less the repartee was gay (can you still say that?) and the discussion was civil (mostly).
I could never, in a million years, imagine threatening Jeff, his mate, or his children.
When net discussions become life or death it is time to take a vacation from blogging.M. Simon (cd8410) — 7/8/2006 @ 12:14 pm
“Apparently, some leftists will defend absolutely anything, as long as it lines up with their politics.”
True, of course. And some rightists will defend absolutely anything, as long as it lines up with their politics.
The person who attacked Goldstein is an idiot–as the very first comment on the site (by a liberal) notes. One lefty nut can’t be used to indict the entire left. If you want to play that game, the right is going to end up looking lots worse than the left is. (The left has no one to compare to Coulter, Liddy, Ollie North, Fox News…).
So: yup, this was crazy. Yup, the person needs to be condemned. Nope, it doesn’t show that the left is crazy.
This is a really easy point to see. Ask yourself how you would have assessed your own argument if an analogouse charge had been made against the right by someone on the left. My guess is that you’d have seen the reponse immediately. So why hold your own arguments up to a less-rigorous standard than that to which you hold your opponents’ arguments? That’s the essence of irrationality and tribalism.Winston Smith (883634) — 7/8/2006 @ 12:36 pm
[…] Patterico Chez Diva Blue Crab Boulevard My Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Flopping Aces Classical Values GatewayPundit Right Wing News Tattered Bits of a Brain Small Dead Animals Malkin Southern Appeal Lilac Rose […]The Anchoress » “You are not human to me,” (1b383c) — 7/8/2006 @ 12:48 pm
WS, goes to show how perceptions differ depending on where you “sit”.
Nothing to compare to Jason Leopold, Larry Johnson, Jane Hamsher, Arianna Huffington (and just about everyone that posts at HuffPo), Kos himself, plus just about every commenter that is not banned at their respective sites? DU is in a class by itself for derangement!!noah (32f66f) — 7/8/2006 @ 1:08 pm
[…] That this woman is was teaching at a major university is what scares the bejeezus out of me. Oh, did I mention she’s also a 9-11 conspiracy nut job? What is it with the soft sciences on campus that attracts these wackos, anyway? Here’s a little ditty where Deb, a full-fledged adherent to the reality based community, shows Jeff some love: […] as I said elsewhere, if I woke up tomorrow and learned that someone else had shot you and your tyke it wouldnt slow me down one iota. You arent human to me. […]:: Political Musings :: » Debbie Does Malice (1cefe9) — 7/8/2006 @ 1:55 pm
[…] (There’s much more here and here.) […]Bob Krumm » extremism is a vice (f25eff) — 7/8/2006 @ 2:23 pm
Goldstein and the Tolerant Left…
A word to the wise. You don’t want to threaten to kill Jeff Goldstein’s kid (or anyone’s kid for that matter). Really. UPDATE: OK, now things have really gotten out of hand. If you try to click the link above you won’t get anywhere. That’s because…PunditGuy (baa0b4) — 7/8/2006 @ 6:46 pm
Well, besides Garofalo, Rhodes, Franken, Malloy, Moore, Olbermann, Boxer, Pelosi, Murtha, Dean, Kerry, Carter, Gore, Clinton, Clinton…Jim Treacher (c3be1b) — 7/9/2006 @ 11:03 am
I don’t think any of those are creationist superstitionists like coulter. What other ways could they be similar?actus (6234ee) — 7/9/2006 @ 11:36 am
[…] Patterico has been all over this one, with stories here, here, here, here and here. And Powerline, which gets more visitors than God, put forth a very minor statement — but a minor reference on Powerline gets you a lot of attention! […]Common Sense Political Thought » Blog Archives » Blogging Code of Ethics (819604) — 7/9/2006 @ 5:32 pm
[…] I haven’t written anything about the insane-acting psychology professor-slash-blogger who wrote several threatening comments to Jeff Goldstein and his young son, his pushback that cost the professor her job, and the subsequent DoS attacks that have taken his site down. It’s not for lack of interest. I’ve been following the story thanks mostly to posts from Patterico (here and here, then keep going) and Allah’s Hot air post. […]The Sundries Shack (0542f4) — 7/9/2006 @ 9:10 pm
[…] Dr. Deb Frisch is a part-time former psychology professor at the University of Airizona who used her university email account to levy not-so-veiled sexual and physical threats against a conservative blogger’s two-year old child. […]UrbanGrounds » Blog Archive » A New Verb is Born: To Firsch (9c1cd3) — 7/10/2006 @ 7:11 am
What other ways indeed?Jim Treacher (c3be1b) — 7/10/2006 @ 11:50 am
That was disgusting, but it was not a death threat — please cut the bullshit.
If you do consider saying that she’d rejoice in hearing of the kid’s death to be a death threat, what’s your take on this tid-bit by Thomas (admin of RedState, one of the biggest conservative blogs, not some obscure unknown nobody like this woman):
“I repeat: Should the entire American Left fall over dead tomorrow, I would rejoice, and order pizza to celebrate. They are not my countrymen; they are animals who happen to walk upright and make noises that approximate speech. They are below human. I look forward to seeing each and every one in Hell.”
By you standards of what is an expression of murderous intentions, isn’t Thomas in on par with Hitler and Stalin?
This stuff is the regular fare in mainstream conservative blogs — those with the largest audiences. On the liberal you’ll only hear it from people on the fringes that nobody reads.mike (9610fb) — 7/11/2006 @ 11:07 pm
[…] That’s where Deb Frisch lives. […]Patterico’s Pontifications » Strange Comments from Eugene, Oregon (421107) — 7/28/2006 @ 1:19 am
[…] Deb Frisch tried to leave the following comment on my site. It was caught by the spam filter. (Recent background on her here, older background here.) It was left under the same IP address as the recent comments from her IP address on Jeff Goldstein’s and Ace’s site: 22.214.171.124. It was left under the moniker “WW” (”Word Warrior”) with Frisch’s correct e-mail and URL. […]Patterico’s Pontifications » A Comment from Deb Frisch (421107) — 7/30/2006 @ 12:04 pm
Concerning the rash of happenings between Deborah Frisch and Jeff Goldstein, I am reminded of a saying “There is no fool so troublesome as a fool with wit”. I do not remember who spoke those words, but would gladly say so if I did.Bob Kerwin (8c36fe) — 8/1/2006 @ 4:27 am
Perhaps Jeff does say too much about his private information (family, etc.). As the police say when cuffing someone on a television show or a movie, “Everything you say can and will be used against you”. I, personally, would not say anything about my family life, children, etc. on the net. I do not like the fact I had to type my real name to be able to post. I do not believe my point of view on the subject matter needs a name attached to it. People with mental problems come in all political persuations.
Frisch is a degreed professional. Following and reading links arouind the net, it is my opinion she has made statements totally unbecoming one of her supposed stature. She certainly is good at ratcheting things, turning things away, leaving her blameless for her actions and statements (in her own mind, that is). In layman’s terms, she ain’t wrapped tight. That is my personal opinion. I do not wish to drag “anyone” or “everyone” along with me.
[…] heaven for Deb Fr*sch. One of this lucky pair was a college professor who made vile remarks about a blogger’s child on his website. The other is apparently still a college professor who makes vile remarks about […]Soul mates (b4835e) — 1/2/2008 @ 1:49 pm