To Hell With Consensus- Grind them into the Dirt
[Posted by Angry Clam]
Senator Schumer got busted promising all out war against whomever the President nominates to the Supreme Court.
Shocking news, I know. Despite all their talk of “consensus” and “consultation” and “compromise,” the Democrats, as usual, have no interest in such things.
Schumer and the Democrats aren’t interested in consensus, Mr. President. They want you to put someone on the Court that they want. That’s what all this talk of appointing a “moderate” is- it means, as it always has, both when referring to Republicans (John McCain, Lincoln Chafee) and to Democrats (Hillary Clinton!): liberals.
Don’t fucking do it. Why play their idiotic game? They’re the minority party, of no account. Ignore their dishonest protests and complaints. Give us another Thomas! Give us another Scalia! Michael Luttig, Mike McConnell, William Pryor, Priscilla Owen!
If you nominate Alberto Gonzales, I hope you fucking lose, Mr. President. And, remember: whichever senator is responsible for taking him down will immediately become the conservative frontrunner for 2008. That is a fight you cannot, will not, and must not win.
Stevens and Ginsburg cannot hold on until 2012. You know this. Don’t do something that will disgust your entire party and hurt voter turnout in 2008. These nomination battles are our last, best chance to stop the leftist oligarchy that the Supreme Court has been transforming itself into ever since Earl Warren, and to rollback the damage it has done to our nation since then.
“These nomination battles are our last, best chance to stop the leftist oligarchy that the Supreme Court has been transforming itself into ever since Earl Warren, and to rollback the damage it has done to our nation since then.”
So the goal is to undo the warren court. Ok.
actus (cd484e) — 7/6/2005 @ 2:20 pmSo the goal is to undo the warren court[?]
As Sam Elliot said in “The Big Lebowski”:
Parts, anyway.
Christopher Cross (618f3b) — 7/6/2005 @ 3:53 pmThe goal is to undo the Warren Court’s transformation of the Supreme Court from a jurisprudential body to a policymaking one.
There was a (far too short) period before Warren and after Lochner where the Court was exactly that.
And yes, a large portion of the Warren Court’s decisions are without rooting in, and often contrary to, the Constitution. Where precedent and constitutional text conflict, the constitutional text should always win.
Besides, you act like that’s shocking, as if I said something along the lines of “You know what we need? A constitutional amendment to repeal the Fifth Amendment!” or something. The Warren Court was a disaster legally, politically, and socially.
Angry Clam (f05866) — 7/6/2005 @ 4:14 pm” The Warren Court was a disaster legally, politically, and socially.”
Not to me, but then again, I don’t want to see it undone.
actus (137337) — 7/6/2005 @ 4:49 pmDo you really think that politics masquerading as law is such a great idea? Or “constitutional” decisions totally unmoored from any actual constitutional text?
If so, then I’d like Lochner back, please.
Angry Clam (f05866) — 7/6/2005 @ 4:50 pmSen. Shumer – We are going to war over Supreme Cou
According to Drudge, Senator Charle Shumer was overheard during a long cellphone conversation saying the following:
Mark in Mexico (59ce3a) — 7/6/2005 @ 5:07 pm“Do you really think that politics masquerading as law is such a great idea?”
I’d be delighted if the republican appointees to the court did not believe in imposing that “great idea.”
“If so, then I’d like Lochner back, please. ”
No way, Jose.
actus (137337) — 7/6/2005 @ 6:37 pmI’d be delighted if the republican appointees to the court did not believe in imposing that “great idea.”
Well, well, Actus. We finally agree. I’d be freaking delighted if that were the state of affairs.
Patterico (756436) — 7/6/2005 @ 6:44 pmThis is something that’s been bothering me for a while: why is John McCain considered a “liberal” by so many on the right? I certainly understand why he makes the GOP angry; he is one of the least partisan of prominent Republicans. Thus his breaks with the Party on campaign finance reform (which Bush still signed anyway), judicial filibusters, and some of the methods (though not the goals) of the Iraq War. But Republican does not equal conservative, and his conservative credentials are excellent, outside of being skeptical of budget-busting tax cuts. He’s been a consistent hawk on both war and the deficit, and his pro-life credentials are impeccable.
It seems to me he engenders hostility on the Right not because of his ideological views but rather because of his willingness to break from the party line. You can hate McCain for not playing ball, or his media grandstanding (though what politician is not guilty of this? McCain’s just really good at it) or because of those South Carolina rumours about his non-white children or whatever–but conservative criticisms regarding his political ideology are disingenuous.
Jarz (843ebd) — 7/7/2005 @ 10:34 amYou can hate McCain for not playing ball, or his media grandstanding (though what politician is not guilty of this? McCain’s just really good at it) or because of those South Carolina rumours about his non-white children or whatever–but conservative criticisms regarding his political ideology are disingenuous.
Oh, please. He is an enemy of free speech, which is good enough reason to despise him even if it were the only reason. And he is a de facto enemy of good judges with his grandstanding role in the filibuster capitulation.
“Disingenuous”? Hardly.
Patterico (b44f68) — 7/7/2005 @ 11:25 amI despise John McCain far more than almost any other Republican living or dead.
Were John McCain to be the GOP candidate in 2008 and Hillary! in 2008, I would sit out the election.
I despise John McCain because his ego is larger even than that of Michael Flaherty.
I despise John McCain because he puts his own personal aggrandizement ahead of the needs and wishes of Americans.
I despise John McCain because he is as quick as Kerry to play the victim card.
I despise John McCain because he does not understand the loyalty behind the 11th Commandment of the GOP.
I despise John McCain because he makes Howard Dean look modest.
I despise John McCain because he can’t stand opposition.
I despise John McCain because he despises his own party’s faithful.
I despise John McCain because he would rather wreck the party than let someone else besides John McCain get the candidacy in 2008.
Other than than, well, he’s got some good points, I guess. His mother loves him, for instance.
steve miller (0fb51f) — 7/7/2005 @ 12:38 pm