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9/27/2019

Trump Meets With NRA to Discuss Financial And Political Support

Filed under: General — Dana @ 4:23 pm



[guest post by Dana]

This is interesting:

President Trump met in the Oval Office on Friday with Wayne LaPierre, the chief executive of the National Rifle Association, and discussed prospective gun legislation and whether the N.R.A. could provide support for the president as he faces impeachment and a more difficult re-election campaign, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

It was not clear whether Mr. Trump asked Mr. LaPierre for his support, or if the idea was pitched by the N.R.A. During the meeting, Mr. LaPierre asked that the White House “stop the games” over gun control legislation, people familiar with the meeting said.

It was unclear what the N.R.A.’s financial support would look like, and whether it would pay for ads, as it did during Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

Gosh, I think there’s a Latin term for “you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours”…!

As we all know, LaPierre has been pretty pro-active in in influencing the White House to prevent any further background measures from being enacted after the El Paso and Dayton shootings:

In a series of calls and meetings, he has tried to move Mr. Trump away from proposing any sort of background check measures that he said after the mass shootings he might support.

Note: Trump is apparently doubtful about the N.R.A.’s financial abilities to bolster his reelection campaign in 2020 at the same level they did in 2016, when the organization “poured over $30 million into his election, more than any other outside group.”

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

37 Responses to “Trump Meets With NRA to Discuss Financial And Political Support”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (05f22b)

  2. Who else?

    nk (9651fb)

  3. The NRA is single-issue organization and will support the most, right now the only, pro-RKBA candidate.

    nk (9651fb)


  4. Nearly a Third of Democrats Say It Should Be Illegal to Join the NRA

    and it ain’t just Dems.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/nearly-a-third-of-democrats-say-it-should-be-illegal-to-join-the-nra/

    Good thing we still have a Bill Of Rights (for now).

    harkin (dc1411)

  5. Well, if he’s going to sell himself to the NRA, at least it’s traditional.

    (Anyone remember how you had to vote for him because he was the only one who didn’t need to sell himself?)

    Nic (896fdf)

  6. The NRA gave Trump $30 million and other Republicans significant amounts of $$. That’s why the liberals/leftist hate the NRA so much. Its partly about gun control, but its mostly about them giving $$ to the R’s.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  7. The NRA gave Trump $30 million and other Republicans significant amounts of $$. That’s why the liberals/leftist hate the NRA so much. Its partly about gun control, but its mostly about them giving $$ to the R’s.

    Please, I’d like to see some documentation of “just” and “$30 million”

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  8. $30 million may be a fact, but not the true figure.
    It includes money contributed to groups who worked against Hillary (almost 2/3rds of the total) and contributions made by groups and people in the NRA orbit

    “The total dollar amounts comprise donations made by the National Rifle Association, its affiliates, and its members, as well as “outside money” consisting of campaign spending conducted on behalf of political candidates by NRA political action committees, in all campaign cycles since 1989.

    See here
    https://www.ajc.com/news/national/senators-house-members-who-offered-condolences-after-shooting-called-out-for-donations-from-nra/tpitHXUY9jDH3pr4f7f7cM/

    The biggest non presidential donee, btw, seems have been a certain senator from Arizina, now deceased.

    Kishnevi (18dae1)

  9. I think it is still legal for a candidate to ally himself politically with a pressure group. They are constantly going to these group’s meetings and telling them all the ways that they plan to help their goals, and if they don’t say “I want your support” it’s because they have an idiot for a campaign manager.

    Or is this something Trump isn’t allowed to do because we hate him?

    (it would be a problem if they were coordinating ads and such, but I think that is rather more detailed an arrangement than anything Trump could personally comprehend)

    Kevin M (19357e)

  10. So the “just” was in 2015/2016, is this in geologic time?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  11. When the Democrats go to NOW, or NARAL or ACLU or the Evil League of Evil, as they do, I doubt that anyone will think twice about it.

    So, I just don’t get the implications in this post that Trump or the NRA is doing something wrong, or even unusual.

    Kevin M (19357e)

  12. So, I just don’t get the implications in this post that Trump or the NRA is doing something wrong, or even unusual.

    They’re not. This is the Sarah Jeong Times fundraising for the Democrats from its fanzine subscribers who think the NRA is a terrorist organization.

    nk (9651fb)

  13. The NRA was unpatriotic and un-American for establishing ties with Kremlin-linked Russians.
    Trump was unpatriotic and un-American for working a real estate deal with a hostile foreign power while running for president.
    Trump was unpatriotic and un-American for enlisting a foreign government to do his political dirty work for him, digging up dirt on his chief 2020 rival, and for withholding important military aid to said foreign government for this bogus “corruption” that he had a “concern” about.
    Trump was unpatriotic and un-American for this.

    President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

    That’s the worst kind of message to send a hostile foreign power, and it’s anti-American for him to say that there’s some sort of equivalence between what Putin has done and what Americans have done.
    The staff who put this information in a code-level NSC server are s**tty Americans, too, choosing to protect this clown president over this country.
    The bottom line is that Donald J. Trump loves his ego and his personal greed and ambition more than he loves this nation. He needs to go, sooner the better.

    Paul Montagu (f2c051)

  14. Don’t give the NRA money, http://www.gunowners.org or your local state organization instead.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  15. Please, I’d like to see some documentation of “just” and “$30 million”

    Oh, you want links? Sure. When I get through re-arranging my sock drawer. stay tuned.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  16. The bottom line is that Donald J. Trump loves his ego and his personal greed and ambition more than he loves this nation. He needs to go, sooner the better.

    Bravo. Your satire of a “orange man bad” lefty could be published in “The Onion”

    rcocean (1a839e)

  17. Oh, you want links? Sure. When I get through re-arranging my sock drawer. stay tuned.

    So, you made it up.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  18. Bravo. Your satire of a “orange man bad” lefty could be published in “The Onion”

    Called as seen, bub. Trump is no patriot, he’s a draft-avoiding non-patriot who used used a phoney baloney bonespurs excuse to serve his personal greed and avoid serving his country.

    Paul Montagu (f2c051)

  19. Bravo. Your satire of a “orange man bad” lefty could be published in “The Onion”

    Called as seen, bub. Trump is no patriot, he’s a draft-avoiding non-patriot who used used a phoney baloney bonespurs excuse to serve his personal greed and avoid serving his country.

    Paul Montagu (f2c051)

  20. Col K, it’s not made up. See the link I posted in comment 8. The ambiguity comes in two forms: not all of it was contributed directly by the NRA itself, and only 1/3 went directly to Trump’s campaign. $19 million plus went ti antiHillary groups.

    Kishnevi (18dae1)

  21. Col K, it’s not made up. See the link I posted in comment 8. The ambiguity comes in two forms: not all of it was contributed directly by the NRA itself, and only 1/3 went directly to Trump’s campaign. $19 million plus went ti antiHillary groups.

    So not “$30M” and not “Just”, not within the last 2.5 years.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  22. Col K, I normally agree with you, but at the monent you are behaving like…well, like a Trumpnik defending Trump. The NRA and associates dud spend $30 milluon on behalf of Trump.

    And nowhere do I see the word “just” in any comment otjer than your own.

    Kishnevi (18dae1)

  23. I happen to be a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association and the Texas State Rifle Association.

    I stopped donating to the NRA a long time ago, because it became overtly political. It was infiltrated by a Russian red sparrow for crying out loud. That speaks to its naivete. Or incompetence. The TSRA, on the other hand, has been immune to infiltration. The TSRA actually defends gun owner’s rights; it does not peddle influence to foreign entities for political purposes.

    I’m done with the NRA. But the TSRA will always have my back, so I stand with them.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  24. Getting excited for the no trumpers to set foot on my property. Walter will have first dibs, he goes for the wrist with his sharp teeth and he can get to the gate in 2.5 seconds – Can you?

    mg (8cbc69)

  25. 1). This seems less like a scandal and more just current events.
    2). Isn’t this how it’s supposed to work? PACs support candidates whose positions align with theirs

    Doesn’t seem like the post is written to express or elicit outrage either.

    Time123 (d54166)

  26. nk (9651fb) — 9/27/2019 @ 6:52 pm

    Of the many fine comments on this thread, this is the most sober.

    felipe (023cc9)

  27. My hate for the NRA knows no bounds. They are one of the most anti-2A FUDD groups out there. For the last 80 years, they have supported the erosion of an enumerated right in the bill of rights, pushing for compromise when there should be none, and fighting over things that shouldn’t.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  28. So Donald Trump breathes air today and this is simply unacceptable. I’m sure the NYT would agree. Just a suggestion but if you are going to link to leftist sites, can you at least indicate that they are such and possibly who exactly they are? Waste of time and don’t care to give them even so much as one tiny extra click. They’re similar to attention w*res.

    I was recently made aware of the freak out that went on here during the Kavanaugh confirmation regarding the “OK” hand sign. Sheesh. Combine that with what I think it was narcisco’s linking back to the MAGA hat kid story here and other absurdities…well, it’s like a fever or something. I’m beginning to find it quite amusing how so many here write off Trump supporters, no matter how qualified, as naive suckers when I see how many of those same people are able to accept any form of Trump criticism and hysteria as totes legitimate. And while the NRA has slid a bit in my opinion, to consider this story in anyway noteworthy…well like I said, a fever. The old advice, feed a cold but starve a fever might be worth considering.

    PTw (c5cd7d)

  29. Ptw, what I the post did you feel was critical of trump?

    Time123 (3b725e)

  30. Thank you, felipe. What was the comment you left on the premature Bach Cantata thread?

    nk (9651fb)

  31. I just thanked our esteemed host for his efforts and offered a blessing on him and his family.

    felipe (023cc9)

  32. I’m a lifetime member of the Democratic Party.
    I even used to own a rescue burro until it started trying to bugger the stablehands.

    Serious question about legal standing.
    Does a National organization have standing to sue in all 50 states?

    steveg (354706)

  33. Generally, you have legal standing to sue in every place you have a case or controversy if 1) it is the place the person you are suing resides or transacts business in or 2) a substantial part of the transaction that your claim is based on took place (with some small embellishments because lawyers always complicate things).

    nk (9651fb)

  34. #17 I’m not interested in persuading you or seeking your approval. If you have a counter-argument make it. Don’t waste my time with the old “Hey prove it to me” shtick. Lefty.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  35. #28 I have no idea why the ADL and SPLC are now arbitrators of what is acceptable on the interest.

    Did we all elect them to something? I must have missed the memo. And who are they, BTW? I don’t know a single name of anyone in either organization. But it seems the mysterious “THEY” (Who the hell are THEY? – Wild bunch) who control the internet, have off-loaded the PC Police function to these two organizations. Maybe they are run by great men and are great organizations. Maybe they aren’t. I don’t know because I never see anything about them other than “The ADL/SPCL says…” in the MSM.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  36. I posted this on the wrong thread

    One of the reasons I come here now is to watch never trumpers jump on “news” that reinforces their biases.

    We should all be more patient.
    I used to think 72 hours, but now the media seems wise to that and are waiting longer.
    I guess that I should try, try, try to wait a week.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/us/politics/trump-lapierre-nra-impeachment.html

    steveg (354706)

  37. This shows that at least part of the “quid pro quo” narrative that so many believe about Trump is fake news.
    Bias confirmation is the name of the game. Don’t fall for it.

    steveg (354706)


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