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White House Releases Account of Trump’s Call with Ukraine President

Filed under: Uncategorized — Patterico @ 7:59 am

So the White House has released, not exactly a transcript, but a memo that purports to quote the parties in Trump’s conversation with the Ukrainian president.

It starts, as any extortion attempt would, with Trump reminding the Ukrainian leader of all the good things the United States does for Ukraine:

We Do Things for You

But could you do us a favor?

He starts the favor requests, not with Biden, but with CrowdStrike:

I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say CrowdStrike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people… The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.

Here is the screenshot:


This part of the call will be initially overlooked but may end up being significant. CrowdStrike was hired by the DNC to investigate the hacking of its servers and concluded that the hacking was the work of the Russians. James Comey testified in 2017: “Leading private cyber security firms including Crowdstrike, Mandiant and ThreatConnect reviewed the evidence of the hack and concluded with high certainty that it was the work of APT 28 and APT 29 who are known to be Russian intelligence services.” Conservatives have made much of the apparent fact that the FBI did not examine the hacked server, and thus intelligence services had to rely on the CrowdStrike analysis.

Was Trump trying to get Ukraine to second-guess CrowdStrike’s conclusion, thereby letting Russia off the hook for the hacking? That’s how it looks to me.

Now we get to the part about Biden. Trump asks Zelensky to take a call from Bug Eyes Rudy, who as we know was all about pressuring Ukraine over Biden. Trump mentions Biden and Biden’s son by name and asks “if you can look into it”:

I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.

Here are the screenshots.

Biden 1

Biden 2 at 900

The prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, was actually anything but a good prosecutor. He was thought to be soft on corruption by pretty much the entire West. The world wanted him gone.

This call is exactly what I thought it would be.

And it’s impeachable.

Trump will never be removed from office before the 2020 election. The hack Republicans in the Senate have already made that very clear.

But he may, and should, be impeached.

1 Comment »

  1. If you’re going to invoke Viktor Shokin’s name, please do explain to me how it’s okay for a US vice president to blackmail a country into firing a prosecutor who is investigating a company his son in on the board of (and just how, exactly, did Hunter Biden get that 50k a month job?), an investigation that predated Shokin, BTW.

    I think Pence has it right; Trump is accused of doing what Biden bragged about doing. Yet, this transcript, if accurate, does not indicate anything near the level of what Biden did. Even the Ukrainians say there was no pressure.

    I think you are 100% right that the mention of Crowdstrike is very significant as well as currently overlooked. I think it’s the most important thing in the call. Of course a big deal has been made about the DNC’s refusal to let the FBI look at a server – and also the FBI’s willingness, in a natsec case, to allow that kind of stonewalling (stonewalling with no legal basis in a natsec case – the FBI could have simply insisted). Crowdstrike’s analysis is the only thing pointing at Russian hacking of the DNC. An analysis by a contractor of the DNC. Oh, and they wiped the server, too. That stinks, badly, though not quite as bad as the metadata showing a download speed of the accessed files of 22.6 MBPS, which you couldn’t get from the T-1 line (especially transatalantically, due to packet lag) but happens to be the native speed of USB 2.0 thumb drives. I think this needs looking into, badly, and I’ve thought so for a very long time. I’d utterly delighted that it appears Trump is looking into this – I’ve criticized him often enough for ignoring it, and I’m delighted to be wrong.

    I will add this; Trump involving Guilliani, who is one of his personal lawyers, was very inappropriate IMHO. It was also, politically, a stupid move.

    Impeachable, though? Really? On what crime, exactly?

    Comment by Arizona CJ — 9/25/2019 @ 8:20 pm

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