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12/11/2018

TIME Person of the Year: The Fake News Media

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:18 am



That’s not how they phrase it, of course, but it’s how You Know Who will phrase it:

The choice is getting roundly derided for being breast-beating “look at me!” journalism. That’s both fair and unfair, depending on which parts of the article you read.

There are inspiring stories in there, having nothing really to do with Trump, about brave journalists who have suffered outrageous governmental retribution for their truthful reporting. Most followers of the news know the Khashoggi story, but do you know these stories?

And in prison in Myanmar, two young Reuters reporters remain separated from their wives and children, serving a sentence for defying the ethnic divisions that rend that country. For documenting the deaths of 10 minority Rohingya Muslims, Kyaw Soe Oo and Wa Lone got seven years. The killers they exposed were sentenced to 10.

This year brought no shortage of other examples. Bangladeshi photographer Shahidul Alam was jailed for more than 100 days for making “false” and “provocative” statements after criticizing Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina in an interview about mass protests in Dhaka. In Sudan, freelance journalist Amal Habani was arrested while covering economic protests, detained for 34 days and beaten with electric rods. In Brazil, reporter Patricia Campos Mello was targeted with threats after reporting that supporters of President-elect Jair Bolsonaro had funded a campaign to spread false news stories on WhatsApp. And Victor Mallet, Asia news editor for the Financial Times, was forced out of Hong Kong after inviting an activist to speak at a press club event against the wishes of the Chinese government. Worldwide, a record number of journalists—262 in total—were imprisoned in 2017, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, which expects the total to be high again this year.

How well do you know this one?

“I can tell you this,” declared Chase Cook, a reporter for the Capital Gazette. “We are putting out a damn paper tomorrow.”

Cook’s promise, shared with the world on Twitter, came just a few hours after five of his colleagues were killed. The man charged with their murders had been obsessed with the paper since it wrote about his harassment of a high school classmate—part of its routine coverage of local legal proceedings. He made the office a crime scene. To put the damn paper out, staffers set up laptops in the bed of a pickup in a parking garage across the street.

When the next edition arrived—on schedule—the opinion page was blank but for the names of the dead. Gerald Fischman. Rob Hiaasen. John McNamara. Rebecca Smith. Wendi Winters. Beneath their names was a coda that might have been written with a goose quill: “Tomorrow this page will return to its steady purpose of offering our readers informed opinion about the world around them, that they might be better citizens.”

These stories merit further publicity. But, of course, TIME can’t be satisfied with that. As anyone would predict, they also have to administer the mandatory dose of Trump-centric lecturing.

A month after taking office, President Trump sat for an interview with Breitbart, the right-wing online news site that had been run by his then chief strategist, Steve Bannon. “The fake media is the opposition party,” the President declared. “The fake media is the enemy of the American people.”

The “enemy” line had been floated 10 days earlier, in a tweet that named the offending news organizations: “The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!”

The President may not have known the history of the phrase. It was used in the Soviet Union, to condemn subordinates at the 1930s show trials Joseph Stalin ordered before executing those who had fallen out of favor. “The people” were peasants who had starved after Stalin confiscated grain harvests. The officials were the dictator’s scapegoats.

It’s not that they don’t have a point. It’s that the point is out of place in an article designed to showcase brave truthtellers. The president’s attitude towards the news media is ridiculous. Sometimes they deserve the derision, but often they don’t. But the difference here is that nobody in Donald Trump’s America is getting imprisoned or killed by Donald Trump for Bravely Standing Up to Him. In short, Jim Acosta (briefly lost his press pass) is not Kyaw Soe Oo, or Wa Lone (imprisoned for telling the truth about genocide) or even Jamal Khashoggi (murdered for criticizing the Saudi regime). So why is Acosta mentioned in the same article?

For once, couldn’t they just let the brave and lesser-known reporters be the true focus of attention?

And of course the answer is no.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

87 Responses to “TIME Person of the Year: The Fake News Media”

  1. When it comes to credit for Bravery, the writers at Time are all Spartacus.

    Appalled (d07ae6) — 12/11/2018 @ 7:38 am

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    Hbdwpbzw (c6aa88) — 12/11/2018 @ 7:52 am

  3. spambots!!!!!!

    felipe (5b25e2) — 12/11/2018 @ 7:56 am

  4. Khashoggi wrote opinion pieces that were occasionally published in the WA Post. Calling him a journalist is an attempt to bash Trump and ignores Khashoggi’s activist purpose. His killing was barbaric but is not reason for the US to switch sides in the conflict between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Obama tried his best to accomplish this flip flop much to the horror of Israel.

    A good primer on this subject is the Frontline documentary: Bitter Rivals: Iran and Saudi Arabia.

    AZ Bob (885937) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:00 am

  5. That Kashoggi really got around… https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuGpX4EW0AAyX8V?format=jpg&name=900×900

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    Vafdanad (462369) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:08 am

  7. They have an insatiable need to view and think themselves heroic. Most are nothing more than rotters:

    “This week’s Liberal Media Scream features the media jumping on the impeachment bandwagon, with CBS and ABC leading the way, even in their intros.

    Displaying identical news judgments, the ABC and CBS evening newscasts on Sunday night offered a matching way to frame the day’s news as both used the very same phrasing for their on-screen teases, with corresponding narration from the anchors: “Impeachable Offenses?”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/liberal-media-scream-together-now-networks-preach-impeachment

    Colonel Haiku (af8791) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:12 am

  8. He was the mouthpiece for qatari based salafist, the new heart of wahhabism.

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:15 am

  9. But the difference here is that nobody in Donald Trump’s America is getting imprisoned or killed by Donald Trump for Bravely Standing Up to Him.

    He praised a candidate for a vicious attack on a reporter, tried to cover for Khashoggi’s murderers, and a cultist parroting his deranged rhetoric sent news organizations and political opponents mail bombs.

    But hey, no biggie! What’s all the fuss about?!

    Dave (1bb933) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:23 am

  10. I only Maria ressas work re al queda in south east Asia, in terms of journalism. Khashoggis apologia for Islamic state and Hamas cant really be considered journalism.

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:26 am

  11. the purple knob media’s the enemy of the whole whirl not just the american people

    and shoggy doggy’s a farce btw (joke journalism)

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:28 am

  12. …why is Acosta mentioned in the same article?

    Because no matter how much Time Magazine wants to gloss it over, it is about Trump. Anybody who honestly believes this choice of Person (people?!) of the Year wasn’t 100% about Trump is beyond help.

    Gryph (08c844) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:28 am

  13. 4. As for the Khashoggi question, there is no reason — moral or otherwise — for us to pick a side in the Saudi vs Iran debacle at all. Western support of Saudi Arabia is nothing more than a natural result of the House of Saud’s foundation as a western construct.

    Gryph (08c844) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:30 am

  14. Khashoggi’s apologia for Islamic state and Hamas cant really be considered journalism.

    he loved him some terrorism, shoggy did

    so it’s ironic, how he died at the hands of a terror-sponsoring state

    but I for one say we can’t this cast a pall on the holiday

    it’s a shoggy doggy christmas

    it’s the best time of the year!

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:31 am

  15. oopers

    can’t *let* this cast a pall on the holiday i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:32 am

  16. Some folks know and care about it, some don’t…

    “This week’s Key to Everything is Michael Cohen, the guy who lied out of self-interest for Trump until last week when we learned he is also willing to lie, er, testify against Trump out of self-interest. If you take his most recent statements at face value, the sum is the failed negotiations to build a Trump hotel in Moscow, which went on a few months longer than was originally stated, and that we all knew about already.

    Meanwhile, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York submitted a sentencing memo Friday for Cohen, recommending 42 months in jail. In a separate filing, Mueller made no term recommendation but praised Cohen for his “significant efforts to assist the special counsel’s office.” The memos reveal no new information.

    Call it sleazy if you want, but looking into a real estate deal is neither a high crime nor a misdemeanor, even if it’s in Russia. Conspiracy law requires an agreement to commit a crime, not just the media declaiming that “Cohen was communicating directly with the Kremlin!” Talking about meeting Russian persons is not a crime, nor is meeting with them.”

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/muellers-investigation-is-missing-one-thing-a-crime/

    The takeaway that this was all about influence shopping by the Russkies falls flat.

    Colonel Haiku (af8791) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:48 am

  17. As Iowahawk so aptly said,

    Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.

    And to paraphrase another quote, “Journalism is about deciding which facts you shouldn’t know as they would harm the Democrat party.”

    NJRob (4d595c) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:51 am

  18. It was a note dropped into a suggestion box, there was no consideration or acceptance the key elements to a contract.

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:51 am

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    Yhpniqhd (5e4190) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:54 am

  20. “But the difference here is that nobody in Donald Trump’s America is getting imprisoned … by Donald Trump for Bravely Standing Up to Him.“

    Correct. But Bush did that with Judith Miller, and Obama would’ve with James Risen and James Rosen if he could have. No equivalents under Trump. None.

    Going to hazard a wild guess that these names aren’t even mentioned by Time.

    Munroe (a55b55) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:56 am

  21. Well there is charming Zoey wannabe watkins

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/12/is-it-something-he-said-6.php

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 8:57 am

  22. I don’t know if this is a good thing, depending how they define critical thinking

    http://saudigazette.com.sa/article/549759/SAUDI-ARABIA/School-curricula-to-include-philosophy-critical-thinking

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:00 am

  23. As a winner of TIME Person of the Year in 2006, I can say this with authority: TIME would’ve picked somebody else if Trump hadn’t called the media–more specifically, any media critical of the president–the enemy of the people.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:02 am

  24. it’s interesting Mr. narciso it took the Daily Caller to initiate an investigation of the dirty Chris Wray FBI’s violent rape of whistleblower protections

    the purple knob shoggy doggy enemy-of-the-people media didn’t lift a finger

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:12 am

  25. “TIME would’ve picked somebody else if Trump hadn’t called the media–more specifically, any media critical of the president–the enemy of the people.”
    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:02 am

    Yeah, except he never said or tweeted that. He specifically wrote “The Fake News Media”.

    A media that falsely presents it otherwise only proves his point. That goes for falsehoods presented as fact by commenters as well.

    Munroe (c13e53) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:17 am

  26. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/business/trump-calls-the-news-media-the-enemy-of-the-people.html

    Kishnevi (fe869b) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:32 am

  27. The New York Times should stop being the enemy of the people.

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    Iwrwnwln (fb80b0) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:39 am

  29. Impossible they were also the enemy of Cuba south Vietnam Cambodia and persia

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:44 am

  30. Yeah, except he never said or tweeted that. He specifically wrote “The Fake News Media”.

    Except that yeah, he does, over and over again.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (ffba1f) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:45 am

  31. Perspective is sorely lacking

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/11/media-conventional-wisdom-on-russia-probe-is-uninformed-and-idiotic/#.XA_d3BnpFJw.twitter

    narciso (d1f714) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:54 am

  32. Yeah, except he never said or tweeted that. He specifically wrote “The Fake News Media”.

    And then broadbrushes it by saying the NYT, ABC, NBCNews, CBS and CNN are all “fake news”, without conditioning anything he says.

    Paul Montagu (8d207c) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:08 am

  33. The irony is that Trump will say that NYT, ABC, NBCNews, CBS and CNN are the “enemy of the people” but won’t acknowledge that the Putin propaganda machine–which is genuinely hostile to the American people–is such an enemy. His perspective is whacked.

    Paul Montagu (8d207c) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:13 am

  34. Like when the Soviets labeled aids an American concoctions when they jump started the Kennedy conspiracy merrygoround, like that montagu?

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:15 am

  35. To anyone who was an adult during the Cold War and saw how the Soviets did things, Putin’s disinformation tactics should be highly recognizable.

    Paul Montagu (8d207c) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:18 am

  36. Yes Paul I’m aware and the western press didn’t much care then in fact often relayed much of it.

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:21 am

  37. Take parkland how much of the story was real and how much convenient anti NRA narrative.

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:23 am

  38. That reminds me of warricks convenient ‘poor mixed up crazy person’s for Zubaydah in the 00s

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:31 am

  39. Fifty years ago it was Frank Borman, Jim Lovell and Bill Anders.

    How TIMEs have changed.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:37 am

  40. You forgot the text offensive which was a net loss for the viet cong.

    Narciso (d8447d) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:39 am

  41. But will it tweak newsstand sales over the holidays– which was the origin of the promotional gimmick to begin with.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:45 am

  42. “Take parkland how much of the story was real and how much convenient anti NRA narrative.”

    Which category does “David Hogg is a crisis actor” belong to?

    Davethulhu (fab944) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:47 am

  43. Yes Paul I’m aware and the western press didn’t much care then in fact often relayed much of it.

    Fight the real enemy, narc.

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    Jrywzqjq (7d01c3) — 12/11/2018 @ 11:14 am

  46. Does anyone under 50 know what Time magazine is?

    There readership is so old, they hand out a free prostate exam with each subscription

    rcocean (2e1c02) — 12/11/2018 @ 11:15 am

  47. Who introduced the spammers?

    NJRob (4d595c) — 12/11/2018 @ 11:19 am

  48. crisis actor is just about the nicest thing you can say about those trashy fascist parkland tykes

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    Dohnphqb (e816c3) — 12/11/2018 @ 11:41 am

  50. TIME magazine has occasionaly done a collective Man Person of the year, going back even to at least 1967, when it was “Twenty Five Years and Under.” They even had Machine of the Year in 1982 (issue dated Jan 3, 1983) the last year before it became clear that the IBM PC was dominant. It was all kinds of computers then. (Before IBM – which debuted the IBM PC in Aug 1981 – there was Apple, but in 1982 there were all kinds of different personal computers)

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:07 pm

  51. 46. rcocean (2e1c02) — 12/11/2018 @ 11:15 am

    Does anyone under 50 know what Time magazine is?

    Today Mark Simone on WOR 710 AM in New York wondered if TIME magazine still had a print edition, (it has a big online presence, often turned up by search engines) and he was inclined to think it no longer had one. It does, and Newsweek is also back in print although maybe it is only found in Microcenter (a computer store)

    Mark Simone wondered where you could get a print issue of TIME. It’s true public libraries rarely have it now, and there are not that many newstands. But it is still published.

    I have a subscription, and yes, it is propagandistic, but then it’s been that way since 1973. It’s thinner now.

    (Bloomberg) Business Week and The Economist are much better general newsweekly publications, although they are supposed to be, or considered to be, business publications, but they are not really, or mainly. The Economist offers trial 12 week subscriptions for $12 (then it goes up to $45 or now I see $55 and has the eccentricity of calling itself a newspaper instead of a magazine, but it is published on glossy magazine stock. Maybe they think the price is more justified if it is considered a newspaper.

    Also good, very thin (but with almost no ads) is “The Week” “The Week” looks very much like the “Literary Digest” did before the 1930s. It eventually became a kind of inferior TIME and went out of business. I read it, or a lot of issues that looked up, from the summer of 1976 to…1982 really, looking at issues as far back as 1919, or maybe a bit earlier.

    I didn’t like what it had become by 1932. It declined and declined, and no longer had excertos from other publications, which is what the old “literary Digest” (and probably its predecessor “Public Opinion” consisted of.

    It wasn’t really the poll in the 1936 election that killed it. It changed. Of course in 1936 what probably really happened was that the “ballot box” was stuffed. The magazine itself explained it was “response bias” There were plenty of copies of the straw poll in post offices. The new Gallup Organziation claimed it was poor sampling – that they sent surveeys only to people who had telephones, but that’s not really true.

    U.S. News and World Report is still around in some form. It ceased print publication before Newsweek, with maybe afew exceptions for special issues.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:09 pm

  52. 39. DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/11/2018 @ 10:37 am

    Fifty years ago it was Frank Borman, Jim Lovell and Bill Anders.

    Today there’s abasketball star who thinks men have not really laded on the moon. I don’t blame him. He’s too young to remember, and this lie is put out.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:11 pm

  53. 23. I remember that. The cover was a mirror.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:12 pm

  54. we have now both fox news and conservative talk radio on one side and the liberal media on the other now not 50 years ago. we have google, Facebook, twitter, ect. on the liberal side. gab is trying on the other side. the tory government in britian has been caught paying social media site to attack labor leader jerimy corbin. if you don’t like liberal social media sites start your own like gab.

    lany (e068a5) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:29 pm

  55. “97% of journalists agree that they’re the real heroes.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:33 pm

  56. i care nothing for the welfare of these journalists, for they are the enemies of the people

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:46 pm

  57. “But, of course, TIME can’t be satisfied with that. As anyone would predict, they also have to administer the mandatory dose of Trump-centric lecturing.”

    Sounds like a few blogs I visit.

    harkin (1161c2) — 12/11/2018 @ 12:56 pm

  58. Another journalist arrested in China (a photographer, photojournalist Lu Guang, possibly arrested mainly because he was present when someone else was arrested.)

    https://news.artnet.com/art-world/lu-guang-disappeared-in-china-documenting-muslim-region-1410523

    Lu Guang is a permanent resident of the United States, but aChinese citizen.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/11/2018 @ 1:08 pm

  59. Jamal Khashoggi worked for semi-official government connected newspapers and for the government as a diplomat – and for its spy agency before Sept 11th – but he had fled Saudi Arabia.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/11/2018 @ 1:10 pm

  60. what are also the enemy of the people are include twitter and google and facebook

    also, opioids

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 1:27 pm

  61. happyfeet:

    Who are the people? And why do the people keep watching and reading, if they are the ENEMY?

    I would prefer a little less Orwell in my daily life, myself, and wish Trump would retire that phrase on the ash heap of history.

    Appalled (d07ae6) — 12/11/2018 @ 1:31 pm

  62. you’re confusing the issue

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 1:46 pm

  63. Here’s a good solution to try.

    We can have all the journalisms make a new year’s resolution NOT to be the enemy of the people for a whole year.

    Then at the end of the year we can ask them if the feel more safer and happier then they did before.

    This is a good way to apply science to an issue that’s proven to be difficult to fix using unscientific means.

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 1:49 pm

  64. oopers *than* they did before i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 1:50 pm

  65. if people read more orwell one would call it minitrue,

    https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/breaking-fatal-shooting-near-christmas-market-in-strasbourg-suspect-on-the-run/

    narciso (d1f714) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:06 pm

  66. I would prefer a little less Orwell in my daily life, myself, and wish Trump would retire that phrase on the ash heap of history.

    Make Orwell Fiction Again

    “Truth isn’t truth,” Rudy Giuliani

    Dave (eaedaf) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:17 pm

  67. pelosi wants her transparency in private.

    mg (8cbc69) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:18 pm

  68. we need wall bonds.

    mg (8cbc69) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:22 pm

  69. why can’t we have a govt. shutdown and the wall?

    mg (8cbc69) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:24 pm

  70. When’s mexico going to start paying for it?

    Davethulhu (fab944) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:27 pm

  71. As soon as we keep the hardworking mexicans at home making mexico great again.

    mg (8cbc69) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:30 pm

  72. the idea behind it was a border adjustment fee, or a tax on remittances, but ryan ‘that’s not who we are’

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    Vgsmcrwe (24e1c7) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:37 pm

  74. of course they would do that,

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-08/pro-russia-social-media-takes-aim-at-macron-as-yellow-vests-rage

    narciso (d1f714) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:39 pm

  75. i love russia ok but i hate macron cause macron’s a snooty pooper

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:41 pm

  76. that was the algorithm squirrel, ben ‘buzzfeed’ smith, pushed last week,

    narciso (d1f714) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:45 pm

  77. the point at which confidence was lost was long past,

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/11/theresa-may-face-no-confidence-vote-owen-paterson-adds-name/

    narciso (d1f714) — 12/11/2018 @ 2:49 pm

  78. I wonder if adding that Tweet button at the top brought in the spambots.

    Paul Montagu (e7d63b) — 12/11/2018 @ 3:09 pm

  79. Or Facebook. Or both.

    nk (dbc370) — 12/11/2018 @ 3:20 pm

  80. Back on topic, these media clowns are always giving themselves awards. Person of the year, Pulitzer, Oscar, Emmy, Golden Globe ….

    nk (dbc370) — 12/11/2018 @ 3:23 pm

  81. @52. LOL. Side note an slightly OT- the three 1968 ‘men of the year’- Cold Warriors all- are still with us. Borman, one time president of Eastern Airlines, flew west; he’s 90 now– a rancher in Montana w/his wife, Susan, having moved there from sunny Arizona some 20 years ago. Lovell’s ‘odyssey’ is well known and is by far the most affable of all the astronauts. Anders made a fortune in the MIC/aerospace biz and is the wealthiest of all the Apollo astronauts, maintains a charitable foundation and took the famous ‘Earthrise’ photo which spawned the environmental movement. His ‘we-live-on-a-pretty-dinky-planet-and-better-take-care-of-it’ observation remains as valid today- if not more- as it was half a century ago.

    This evening, at 8 PM EST, there will be a ‘Spirit Of Apollo’ gathering at the National Cathedral in Washington celebrating Apollo 8. NASA TV will carry it. Perhaps CSPAN will as well. I’ll be watching.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/11/2018 @ 3:23 pm

  82. @80. So do sales people, Boy Scouts, little leaguers, Super Bowl champs and so on… Recognition in a chosen field of endeavor is what it is.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/11/2018 @ 3:26 pm

  83. they don’t give awards for those enterprises which have been financially successful:

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/11/matt-gaetz-twitter-google/

    narciso (d1f714) — 12/11/2018 @ 3:32 pm

  84. I don’t get how this could even be a thing:

    https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1057630/Avatar-sequel-Colonel-Quaritch-Stephen-Lang-Mortal-Engines-release-date-is-he-dead

    perhaps battle angel alita, which is at least a new premise,

    narciso (d1f714) — 12/11/2018 @ 3:47 pm

  85. Oh you didn’t know this:

    https://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/12/11/strobe-talbott-steele-dossier-clinton

    Narciso (9f2ae4) — 12/11/2018 @ 5:26 pm

  86. Well that’s interesting:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/memo-fbi-recommended-michael-flynn-not-have-lawyer-present-during-interview-did-not-warn-of-false-statement-consequences?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true

    Narciso (9f2ae4) — 12/11/2018 @ 9:44 pm

  87. There have been brave and sacrificial prostitutes too, some are even referenced in the Bible, still really doesn’t change the fact that their profession as a whole is mostly a disreputable sink for broken people who you’d never trust with a serious confidence in everyday common life, even more so once most of them got acquired by Woke Capital and Clickbait Central.

    We have freedom of the press like we have freedom to have sex with other consenting adults, that doesn’t mean exercising it repeatedly won’t get you sidelong glances from decent people.

    Nicol (e925a0) — 12/12/2018 @ 3:34 pm


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