Macron: I Do Not Understand Incentives
In a major concession by President Emmanuel Macron, France will suspend for six months a tax increase on gasoline and diesel fuel that had been slated for January, in an attempt to quell weeks of protests and rioting by the so-called Yellow Vests movement.
Prime Minister Édouard Philippe announced the move on Tuesday after briefing lawmakers in a closed-door meeting in Parliament.
“No tax warrants putting the unity of the nation in danger,” Mr. Philippe said.
For the past three weeks, the Yellow Vests protest movement has swept across France, clashing with the police and wreaking havoc in Paris and other major cities, defacing famed monuments such as the Arc de Triomphe.
The tax was made necessary by the Paris Agreement on climate change. Thugs have been breaking old statues and generally making a criminal nuisance of themselves, but that will probably never happen again, right? Creating incentives to do x does not get you more x — that’s what I was always told!
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]
i got your temporarily suspended fuel tax right here mon ami
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:22 amMax boot hardest hit, the media is geared to ignore reality and focus on increasingly more ephemeral possibilities, Sarkozy downfall was nt because of corruption so much that his glass jaw his credibility on counter terror was broken by the Toulouse attack.
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:26 amMannie was already at his most selective, even before this.
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:31 amPeople who don’t have kids have zero business leading a nation. May and Merkel are two more inconsiderate lunatics.
mg (ef2c8e) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:35 amThere are still some fools who are proposing this here, and the other broke girl will be yelling loudest.
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:40 amthe french people, they’ve shown themselves to be much more awesome and brave and courageous and determined than i think any of us suspected them to be
certainly much more so than the passive witless american trash what mewl and whine about a climate change hoax that at best they only half understand
trash like General Mattis for example
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:43 amThey can be against something, but is there a constituency for common sense.
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:51 amthat’s why President Trump is president Mr. narciso
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:53 amQ: Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:51 am
A: happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:53 am
Love that exchange. Are you sure you two are not colluding?
felipe (5b25e2) — 12/4/2018 @ 7:57 amSomehow Macron got an overwhelming landslide for his undefined project, which was heavy on anti colonial guilt and climate trump, trump has a mandate that many that should know better are unwilling to acknowledge.
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:02 amThe progressives have entrenched themselves in the bureaucracy in media in big business, like the Japanese awaiting operation downfall,
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:07 amThe French are fooked.
No more nuclear electricity and more Muslims. What a recipe for success!
Ed from SFV (6d42fa) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:13 amPutting it succinctly maybe they will reverse that earlier directive.
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:15 amHas anyone noticed that our media identified the riots as being about taxes but refused to be more specific?
AZ Bob (885937) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:18 amBecause that’s they desire here as much as they clobbered over beto.
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:19 amLet them eat macaroons!
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:22 amThe frenchies will soon be in tanks going at high speeds in reverse.
mg (ebf6c2) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:27 amHas anyone noticed that our media identified the riots as being about taxes but refused to be more specific?
Do you think that they knew, AZ Bob? Now if it had been something important like what skit SNL put on last Saturday ….
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:28 amCheese
Dave (1bb933) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:40 amEating
Surrender
Monkeys
Macron is not gay. But his boyfriend is…..
mg (ebf6c2) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:47 amSocialism
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 8:54 amDisguised
As
Environmentalism
Second
Rate
Science
Fiction
creepy porn lawyer boy not running 🙁
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 9:24 ammaybe from police and the repo man,
narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 9:36 amI will also not be running for President in 2020. How about you, happyfeet?
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 9:36 amPalessi shoes and Michael Avenatti as a Democrat darling. P.T. Barnum is smiling.
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 9:41 am#22
Happyfeet will serve as an adviser to Trump 2020. His role — How to deliver harsh partisan and scatological slaps while, somehow, seeming kind of nice and cuddly.
Appalled (d07ae6) — 12/4/2018 @ 9:42 amOne morning back when I worked at CERN and lived in France, I had to cross the border into Geneva to get to the train station and catch a train to an important meeting.
At the border, some group of French labor-union yokels were blocking traffic to protest the end of some government hand-out or another due to the EU. Basically the same tactics as these gilets jaunes except they didn’t have the spiffy vests yet.
I was in danger of missing my train thanks to their BS, so I rolled down the window and told them (in French) “I’m an American, I don’t give a f*ck about your problem.” Either the insult or my horrible accent (or both) apparently enraged them, and instead of forming a narrow human corridor that I could pass through safely at a couple km/hr, a few of them decided to get directly in the path of my car.
Well. I had a train to catch, and my little Renault dix-neuf wasn’t stopping for anything. I leaned on the horn and kept going, determined to see whether any of them would take one for the team.
The answer was no. One by one they leapt out of the way at the very last second. They were so pissed that I wouldn’t play their little game!
Dave (1bb933) — 12/4/2018 @ 9:43 amThey’re right this time. How would you like to pay $12.00 a gallon for gasoline, $10.00 of that being taxes?
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 9:48 amAs I recall, gas cost about 4-times as much as in the US even back then.
It was about $1/gallon in the US, and the equivalent of $1/liter in France (slightly cheaper – like maybe $0.85-0.90/liter – in Switzerland, so we always bought it there).
Dave (1bb933) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:06 amin other news:
https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2018/12/us-strikes-target-al-qaeda-in-libya-somalia.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LongWarJournal+%28FDD%27s+Long+War+Journal%29
narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:08 amsometimes you need a blunt object:
http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/04/united-states-make-pivot-towards-brazil/
narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:11 amThank you. That’s what I recall too.
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:16 amBut to answer your question, if I were French, the opportunity to strike a blow for the welfare of the planet and demonstrate my moral superiority to les Americains every time I filled up would make my heart explode with surrender-monkey pride.
Dave (1bb933) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:19 amthey prefer to be speaking german, is my only explanation,
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/04/brexit-deal-latest-mps-vote-contempt-motion-theresamay-pleads/
narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:25 amPresident Trump being president and me not being president is the best of all possible whirls
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:28 am18… do not be making me laugh, my wife says it’s giving me wrinkles!
Colonel Haiku (5b7649) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:33 amsacré bleu!
Colonel Haiku (5b7649) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:36 am“All is love in fair and war.”
—- le Français
Colonel Haiku (5b7649) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:41 am“Love is ze only game not called on account of ze darkness.”
—- Pepe LePew
Colonel Haiku (5b7649) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:42 amthe reason it’s called the Paris Agreement is cause all the climate change hoax pansies wanted a free trip to Paris
that’s the only reason
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:54 am“No tax is worth endangering the unity of the nation.”
dirty penis wrinkle John Roberts did not get the memo on this
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 11:11 amles Français
FTFY
Have you ever read Mark Twain’s Innocents Abroad?
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 12/4/2018 @ 11:21 amI am thinking of the passage in which he illustrates the inability of the French to understand their own language when it is spoken by les Yankees….and the separate comment on their orthographic difficulties….
narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 10:25 am
Feedback I get via my music forum is that most of people in the UK, both those who support and those who oppose Brexit, have a great deal of contempt for Parliament at the moment.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 12/4/2018 @ 11:24 amyes yes like dirty Mia Love he’s consumed by hatefulness
life, degraded
this is who they are
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 11:46 amTake the Metro; the Germans know best how to drive to Paris.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/4/2018 @ 11:51 amHere’s a fact check for you. Trump today says US “losses” $250 billion a year due to illegal immigration.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:00 pmHere’s FAIR’s estimate, which is less than half of that figure.
And FAIR of course is anti-immigration, meaning its figures probably overstate the amount, not understate it.
https://fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers
Take the Metro; the Germans know best how to drive to Paris.
Is why Macron want EU army. When peasants revolt, he call in German troops.
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:03 pmAh, yes, a fact check of FAIR
https://www.cato.org/blog/fairs-fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-study-fatally-flawed
It is true that CATO, unlike most of the Right, takes a realistic view about immigration, but it isn’t exactly a bastion of Progressivism.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:08 pmillegal immigrants have head lice Mr. kishnevi (documented head lice infestations)
why do we need any more informations than that
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:18 pmYes, its rightly earned, may was never for Brexit, that why she came up with the 39 billion pound ransom note.
Corker was for the Iran deal and the 500 million dollar alysha fund for the Syrian rebels
Narciso (060ad6) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:29 pmbob corker’s personally corrupt plus he has a burning almost obama-like contempt for the jewish people
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:31 pm48… i’ve seen and heard the article’s author Alex N. interviewed and debated and he is an open borders advocate. No Sale.
Colonel Haiku (5b7649) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:33 pmColonel, if you insist on thinking facts are to be found in the Breitbartian Echo Chamber, and only there, then you’re more of a fool than I think you. Just because Cato is for realistic immigration policies, and you support unrealistic ones, does not mean Cato publishes nonFacts.
And my original comment was to point out that Trump said something this morning that turns out to be palpably false even if you only go by the “facts” presented by the BEC.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:40 pmhappyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:31 pm
From now on, Mr Feet, please let us Jews decide who is and who is not a friend of the Jews and who does and does not have contempt for us.,
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:42 pmi have good instincts for this trust me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:42 pmHow about the soros Steyer omidyar echo chamber, you will rarely find a source outside that circle for any liberty except pot and amnesty
Narciso (060ad6) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:43 pmIs it ok to love the Israelis Defense Force? Or is that o.b.
mg (ebf6c2) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:52 pmthey’re plucky what’s not to love
but they need to learn they can’t rely on the united states that’s for sure (crappy ally)
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:55 pmThe NRCC hired crowdstrike, guess what happened next?
Narciso (060ad6) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:57 pmNot by the Paris agreement (which specifies nothing) but by an attemopot to live up to it.
For France to cut carbon emisisons is a fallacy. France already uses less fuel that when burned creates carbon dioxide, because it gets a lot of its electrical power from nuclear energy (a byproduct of its atomic bomb program)
There wasn’t much to cut except transportation.
From the protesters it sounds like they would continue using as much gasoline as before, except when and if it made businesses unviable.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/4/2018 @ 12:58 pmThey got hacked, are they going to blame the rissians this time.
Narciso (060ad6) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:04 pmnk @28. I think it’s more like $6 a gallon.
Unleaded 98 octane is 1.50 Euros per litre according to Google. 1 liter = 0.264172 gallons. This works out to $5.67. The extra tax that was scheduled to start in January and now has been postponed till July amounted to about 25 cents a gallon, according to the New York Times, so that would take it up to $5.92.
Therefore it was about a 5% increase. More of course was more probably coming in the long run. the french government suggested people car pool or take public transportation, which it said would be increased.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:08 pmOnce upon a time, there was this scrappy country named America, that vociferously protested taxation too.
Tillman (61f3c8) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:10 pmKishnevi… you do know the difference between “realistic immigration policy” and open borders advocacy, yes? The author of what you linked to is an unabashed, unapologetic advocate for open borders.
Let’s stay on point, please.
Colonel Haiku (5b7649) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:11 pmFrance will suspend for six months a tax increase on gasoline and diesel fuel that had been slated for January. . .
Leave it to the French to propose postponing the riots until the warmer weather in June brings out even more tourists.
JVW (42615e) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:12 pmOnce upon a time, there was this scrappy
JVW (42615e) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:19 pmcountrycolony named America, that vociferously protested taxation without representationtoo.Big deal, JVW. Same difference.
Tillman (61f3c8) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:27 pmDon’t go away mad. Go away educated.
Colonel Haiku (5b7649) — 12/4/2018 @ 1:39 pm28. 33. 62
I made a mistake in calculation:
No, it’s 5.67 Euros not Dollars per gallon or €5.67 per gallon.
A Euro is now $1.13 so the cost of gasoline now in France is about $6.50 and was schdeuled to go up to about $6.75 in January.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 12/4/2018 @ 3:38 pmas I pointed out elsewhere, this was as much about gas taxes, as the tea party was about tea, it’s about a mindset, where your labour isn’t really yours, its the states,
narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 3:43 pmIs it ok to love the Israelis Defense Force? Or is that o.b.
My objection is only to Happyfeet, who calls too many people Jew-haters when they aren’t.
Kishnevi (532e68) — 12/4/2018 @ 5:29 pmHe does the bidding of Qatar which shelters Hamas the Taliban the Islamic state affiliates in Libya Syria Egypt he ran interference for Iran,
Narciso (d1f714) — 12/4/2018 @ 5:32 pmIs it ok to love the Israelis Defense Force? Or is that o.b.
It’s only natural, mg.
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 5:35 pmyou’re just incorrect bob corker wants to see israel wiped off the map in a blazing orgasm of persian hellfire
just today he was carrying on again about shoggy-doggy
cause he’s working with the deeply anti-semitic sleazers at Gina “boom boom” Haspel’s dirty CIA to stick a shiv in Saudi Arabia just as we’re bringing sanctions fully online against his Iranian soulmates
Bob Corker’s corrupt and he’s going to get a lot of people killed and these people will be predominantly jewish people and this is who he is
he’s an evil bitter soul-dead creature he’s bob corker and his caustic hatred for Israel is legendary
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 5:53 pmI recommend asking them individually, and doing it very politely.
Dave (b420d1) — 12/4/2018 @ 6:01 pmAnd an example of the quality of professors who teach science at Harvard, in case you were thinking of sending your kid there. https://nypost.com/2018/12/04/eat-more-than-6-french-fries-and-risk-your-life-expert-says/
nk (dbc370) — 12/4/2018 @ 6:24 pmLOL, Public Health professors don’t teach science…
Dave (1bb933) — 12/4/2018 @ 6:41 pmair fryer french fries mmm they so good
all the flavor of french fries (pretend french fries) but without all the calories and pesky trigglycides!
so good
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/4/2018 @ 6:45 pm