Resistance: Kavanaugh Snubbed a Parkland Dad!!!!1!!11!!!
Yesterday’s stupid story (one of them, anyway) was the claim by the Resistance that Brett Kavanaugh knowingly refused to shake the hand of the father of a Parkland victim, on account of how Kavanaugh loves the guns and hates the shooting victims.
Here’s HuffyPost:
Judge Brett Kavanaugh, President Donald Trump’s latest nominee to the Supreme Court, on Tuesday declined to shake hands with Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter died in a mass school shooting in Parkland, Florida, earlier this year.
. . . .
Guttenberg’s daughter Jaime was 14 when she was killed by a gunman who opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in February. Seventeen people were killed in the shooting, and more than a dozen others were injured. Since Jaime’s death, Guttenberg has been a vocal proponent of gun control.
Here’s the tweet from the dad:
Just walked up to Judge Kavanaugh as morning session ended. Put out my hand to introduce myself as Jaime Guttenberg's dad. He pulled his hand back, turned his back to me and walked away. I guess he did not want to deal with the reality of gun violence.
— Fred Guttenberg (@fred_guttenberg) September 4, 2018
And here’s the video:
NEW VIDEO of hearing room clearly shows security intervened when Judge #Kavanaugh was approached. pic.twitter.com/ZGRRCcWroW
— Raj Shah (@RajShah45) September 4, 2018
This is a hearing where 70 protestors were arrested, including 61 from the very Senate office building where the hearings are taking place. Some guy walks quickly towards Kavanaugh, who may or may not have heard what the guy says, and security is quickly coming up from behind. Kavanaugh, by all accounts a very nice family man, declines to engage with this random person in this volatile situation. And here’s how Kamala Harris reacted:
If Kavanaugh won’t even give him a handshake, how can we believe he would give gun violence victims a fair shake in court? https://t.co/OiDP6lB1Ez
— Kamala Harris (@SenKamalaHarris) September 4, 2018
The only shaking going on here is my damn head.
Here’s your fun gag for the day. As I just made clear, there were many shrieking protestors in the room, and apparently one went on for a long time. Neal Boortz asked: “Why [has] that screeching woman in the hearing room not been removed?” and a wag responded:
Kamala Harris is a member of the committee and has a right to be there. https://t.co/1wLaYVM6Ge
— Jeff B. (@EsotericCD) September 4, 2018
LOL.
Today: Outrage Kabuki Theater, Day Two. Anything could happen!
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]
I think they are still being too charitable:
http://thefederalist.com/2018/09/05/5-takeaways-circus-democrats-made-brett-kavanaughs-scotus-hearing/
great electoral system that yields a kamala harris, yikes,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:20 amonly some count in the media calculus,
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/4/parkland-victims-father-slams-dad-who-approached-b/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:22 amthe whole parkland brand’s been so trashed and nastied up it’s just sort of a joke anymore
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:29 amPatterico, I read that as “Orange Kabuki Theater” for a moment.
This is ALL—just like most politics today—creating an image/narrative/bumper sticker. The truth, let alone context, doesn’t matter.
Shameless. Even though some people don’t like Ben Sasse, I thought his commentary on this was spot on.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:30 amIt’s striking to me that Hearings are one of the places where Senators are supposed to be seen doing their jobs. And yet Senators on both sides are contemptibly awful at doing things like asking simple questions and eliciting information that might actually help them in their reasoned consideration.
Appalled (96665e) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:32 amAnd let’s not forget yesterday’s second ridiculous episode, where left-wingers were accusing the gal sitting behind Kavanaugh of making “white power” hand gestures, a woman of Mexican heritage and has a family member who’s a Holocaust survivor.
Paul Montagu (9dcfd2) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:37 amThat was a test of wills and concentration administered by Mrs. Bash to see who has a camera angle of concern – lest something of this nature is planned.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:45 amWhen the fourth estate continually stokes faux outrage, is it any wonder that cries of “fake news” resonate with a sizeable portion of the public?
John Boddie (f02b29) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:45 amThank you. Does everyone want to put these lunatics in charge?
NJRob (e19a75) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:15 amThank you. Does everyone want to put these lunatics in charge?
Is there much of a difference between these lunatics and those lunatics?
Appalled (96665e) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:32 amA pretty sophomoric publicity stunt that half the country went along with because tribalism.
Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:32 ambut
why is CNN Jake Tapper fake news using bandwidth for this?
this accomplishes nothing
Hi everyone meet your new justice, Mr. Brett Kavanaugh. Everyone thinks it’s Brent but it’s not it’s actually Brett.
Brett Brett Brett
One day Brett didn’t shake the hand of some filthy parkland loser, and Jake Tapper cried and cried.
But everyone soon got over it and the next day everybody was happy again!
Brett likes baseball and being a dad. He also like corn dogs and he loves loves loves doing the constitution all up in it.
Please stop by his cube at the court department and say hi to our new justice. Let’s make him feel welcome!
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:41 amSo much for that civility thing.
Not sure what Kavanaugh has to do with Parkland, but oh well.
HE’S A CONSERVATIVE, HE WANTS TO KILL EVERYBODY!!
Patricia (3363ec) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:43 amBREAKING: Kavanaugh confirms, under oath, that Trump violated campaign promise
Donald Trump famously promised to appoint “pro-life judges who will vote to overturn Roe vs. Wade. He’s now officially 0-for-2 on that promise:
Kavanaugh also continued to make damning confessions that prove he is completely out of step with the President Trump’s values:
Kavanaugh also refused to endorse President Trump’s power to pardon himself, or his immunity from subpoena.
Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:47 amDave my Man — Kavanaugh is just bein’ smart and helping MAGA own the libs for the next 35 years. Take it all seriously, but drop this literally nonsense. Literally is just for squares and Mueller.
Appalled (96665e) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:59 amYeah, I’m cool with Kavanaugh thus far.
I see the Trump Presidency as a great disappointment, but all these angry people I read complaining about Republicans are just the other side of the problem. Their irrational hatred of half the country is the direct cause of this problem. Just the rapid guys on the right are the only reason Hillary Clinton could win a majority of the votes.
We’ve got to gain our credibility as a thinking people, as a single culture that loves the greater good for eachother. Something is deeply screwed up that we’re ambushing Court appointees with heart-broken parents as a stunt. Devious and evil souls are sitting around plotting further evils that strike at our nation itself. We have to find a way to get above that fray.
Sadly, many here, Appalled, Aphrael, Simon Jester, DRJ as a few examples though there are many, do try to be above the back and forth, and they become the target for the a special kind of anger. Figuring out why kindness to those who have different political views generates anger is probably the key to the problem.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:22 amThe next tome, choose amy Barrett, this is what compromise gets you.
Narciso (c54992) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:23 amThe operative question here is:
Did Fred Guttenberg, father of Jaime Guttenberg, lie; or is this some kind of misunderstanding on his part?
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:27 amJustice Kavanaugh vs Justice Sotomayor for starters.
NJRob (b00189) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:30 am1. narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:20 am
Blame campaign finance “reform,” which severely limits the number of possible candidates – and most of the remaining ones use political consultants, and never run on the real issues at hand. They either run on irrelevant issues, which they mostly or entirely have nothing to do with, or they attempt to scare people. There are some real issues, or at least sides they are on, but they hide them or use code words sometimes. The arguments of all candidates are really bad.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:32 amCuck.
🙂
Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:39 amoops he also *likes* corn dogs i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:42 am14. Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 9:47 am
The opposition doesn’t seem to believe that.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:42 amThe real lies are about the likely consequences of reversing Roe v Wade.
Of course, the most likely thing is that simply no state laws that don’t outright outlaw any abortions will be found to hamper them, and, if Chief Roberts gets a 7-2 or better yet, an 8-1 majority for it, and he’d really shoot for 9-0, then Roe may be effectively reversed. But not so that an abortion becomes murder.
It will definitely not be a 5-4 decision because Roberts himself won’t sign on to any such thing, because that could be reverses again with the next nominee.
The New York Times had an article about the actual consequneces of replacng Anthony Kennedy with Breett Kavanaugh (with regard to some well known liberal issues. This is besides what they are not thining of: there not being any of the kinds of things that could happen with a liberal majority, especially with regard to freedom of religion.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/02/us/politics/judge-kavanaugh-supreme-court-justices.html
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:46 am4. Simon Jester (c8876d) — 9/5/2018 @ 8:30 am
I second the emotion.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 10:49 amMore about political lying:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/ron-desantis-accusations-of-racism-smears-fear-mongering/
The last one has a basis in fact, but only a basis – it is not quite accurate, (on purpose). Republicans, for no good reason, tend to be loudly anti-immigrant, and especially anti-illegal immigrant, where the most vile slanders are used as justification, and this is killing them among Hispanics – and rich Asians, who otherwise would be a pretty Republican group. (The Asians, and some others, care mostly about future legal immigration, not having too many illegal immigrants in their midsts, but anyone against illegal immigration is against legal immmigration as well – their goal is for whatever law produces lower numbers, and they don’t care about the balance between legal immigrants and formerly illegal ones.)
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:00 amAmazing quote Sammy.
so the fear is that the Court won’t be changing the law in a progressive, endless push towards ideas that democrats are unable to get enacted in law. So to some of these people, the Court is really just an alternative legislature for less popular stuff, and it’s sad to them if justices just kinda hold the law where it is.
Education is the key problem here.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:03 amThe Parkland parent who tried the handshake kabuki theatre tweeted this on Monday:
Fred Guttenberg
✔
@fred_guttenberg
I will be at Kavanaugh hearings and I hope to play a role in ensuring that this man does not become the next Supreme Court Justice.
That’s some fair shake.
__ _
And oh yeah another parent gets it:
Andrew Pollack
@AndrewPollackFL
I. Will. Never. See. My. Daughter. Again.
Blaming President Trump and Judge Kavanaugh (of all people) for Parkland is completely illogical. They had nothing to do with it.
My daughter is dead because the school board, the police, and the FBI all failed to protect her.
__ _
This post could use both those tweets.
harkin (c7ccf8) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:05 amhttps://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/life-before-the-internet
Trying to get liberals to parody themselves? Or are such people actuallyon the “liberal” side?
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:07 amEducation is the key problem here.
you have to go to real schools not trashy parkland ones
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:11 amKavanaugh should be prosecuted for child endangerment for bringing his two daughters to the hearing.
AZ Bob (885937) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:13 amoh hey happyfeet, good to see you.
I am not sure what can be done with education, but one of the core problems is that the entire enterprise of higher ed is too large. It’s too large and we have too many people going to college, too many people becoming professors, and it’s making the whole thing expensive and mediocre. Our nation only needs so many political scientists and english professors. A few truly talented people who challenge concepts, rather than repeat the same stuff to be regurgitated on tests that ultimately are about getting tuition revenue, not improving the body of human knowledge.
That trickles down to high school and our culture. We’ve got to raise the bar somehow, and a lot of people need to opt out of getting a bachelor’s degree, or at least wait until they are in their mid-20s to make decisions about that stuff.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:16 amhere’s kind of an educate for you if you live in Chicago
they’re gonna start this September 29 which is a saturday
i guess it’s kinda like what Disney does with the castle but more artistic and such
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:16 amHe did it. End story.
Today’s episode: smarmy swap-creature out-Rudying Rudy using September 11 in a sentence.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:19 amBecause educational frameworks are not knowledge based, robin has illuminated this point, on the invisible serfs collar blog, mist are based on soviet templates.
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:20 am@31.Kavanaugh should be prosecuted for child endangerment for bringing his two daughters to the hearing.
A more interesting question would be why they aren’t in school like everyone else’s kids.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:24 amHi Mr. Dustin
education
the global warming hoax was the nose of the proverb-camel
at all levels of education really
once they realized how effectively they could brainwash kids with the global warming nonsense they moved on to everything else
doing dirty he-she transgenders all up in it
doing gun control all up in it
doing racism privilege twaddle all up in it
and anti-capitalism
and safe space snowflakery
they’ve tasted this power now and it was like mainlining cocaine and they’ll never ever give this up
american schools are become an institution what thrives on child abuse
this is what they do anymore
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:28 amThe Pyrite rule: the more negative the reaction, the more truthful the statment.
That seems to heva been the idea behind the protests at the Kavanaugh hearing: That people should judge the truthfulness (and the importance) of the objections by the vehemence of the opposition.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:40 amdrudge played right into it yesterday
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:42 amAnd Putin smiled…
Nobody wins in this- particularly ‘We The People.’ The ‘truth’ here would be to simply to open up the papers and honestly vet the guy- any guy or gal- for the gig- all the gigs– when slots open up. McConnell may have been right after all flagging this fella. The Senate is going to give any conservative a nod on this slot regardless. A swamp-creature doesn’t help.
But it’s all just another example of why it’s harder and harder to ‘sell America’ around the world these days w/a clown show going on in all three circus rings. ‘The Greatest Show on Earth’ folded the tents because it couldn’t sell the show to modern audiences anymore. The advancing world looks, shrugs and is passing on by…
And Putin smiled.
__________
Woodward smacks Trump in face w/chocolate cream pie; Trump bites, cries Woodward’s pies are overrated, tasteless and he’s a lousy cook.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 11:58 amI think the most telling part of the left’s charade was when Linda Sarsour, Women’s March leader, was arrested for causing a disruption by standing up in the chamber and shouting along with other protesters, and because of the drama, Mrs. Kavanagh was “compelled” to escort her two daughters, ages 8 and 10, out of the chamber because they got so scared. The left’s constant yammering about the need for “civility” is just more bullshit. And most clearly, McCain’s bipartisan legacy along with his ability to work across the aisle – which was widely praised by the left – is simply a feel-good massage they give themselves at opportune moments so they can feel smugly righteous about being such narrow-minded, self-consumed scolds.
Dustin @ 16, as a guest contributor here, I’ve riled up more than a few with my views re this administration, and have taken the hits as a result, in spite of making a concerted effort at politeness, and yes, civility.
Dana (023079) — 9/5/2018 @ 12:17 pm“A more interesting question would be why they aren’t in school like everyone else’s kids.”
Everyone else like parents in Chicago?
“Top Chicago school authorities are working on new strategies to address the city’s crushing pattern of elementary grade absenteeism and truancy……
…….”This is a priority for us,” Dhupelia told the three dozen educators and officials at the meeting. “We see this as an ‘it takes a village’ issue. We can’t tackle this alone.”
The General Assembly formed the task force after a Tribune investigation reported that nearly 32,000 of the city’s K-8 grade students — or roughly 1 in 8 — miss a month or more of class per year, while thousands of youngsters vanish from the attendance rolls altogether.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-truancy-hearing-met-20131208-story.html
They read about the truancy problem…..in the newspaper. But Kavanaugh’s kids showed up for his SCOTUS hearing!!
harkin (c7ccf8) — 9/5/2018 @ 12:17 pmStop tuning into the gorilla channel,
Narciso (c54992) — 9/5/2018 @ 12:17 pmBut Kavanaugh’s kids showed up for his SCOTUS hearing!!
But not for class at school.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 12:24 pmNeal Boortz asked: “Why [has] that screeching woman in the hearing room not been removed?”
Meh.
Lindsey Graham is a member of the committee and has a right to be there, too.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 12:29 pmKavanaugh refusal to shake hands reported as fact – with an Associated Press picture: (actually two)
http://www.newser.com/story/264224/kavanaugh-turns-away-from-parkland-dads-handshake.html
Pictures show Fred Guttenberg stretching out his hand standing within reach if Kavanaugh also stretched out his hand) and Kavanaugh with hands in front of him looking maybe beyond Guttenberg – not quite at him but maybe 15 to 30 degrees to his side. The second picture shows Kavanaugh facing away from Guttenberg and walking away. Guttenberg’s left hand is maybe not quite one foot away from Kavanaugh’s right elbow. (it’s not a serious attempt to shake his hand – it’s a serious attempt to get a picture or two of him not shaking his hand.) I man who leaves his hand out like that?)
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 12:46 pmGuttenberg is saying he was not an “unknown individual” as security says, because Senator Feinstein had introduced him (to the audience?) some time before.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 12:49 pmAlthouse on the hearings. She said she couldn’t cover all fof it – there was too much. She thinks Grassley decided to let the protesters go ahead, maybe because they damage their case.
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6329595&postID=5621411558849072499&bpli=1&pli=1
Senator Diane Feinstein quietly told Senator Patrick Leahy “It’s not there”
The audio has been broadcast.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 1:02 pmAt least fred didn’t bring a pick up truck to run kavenaugh over!
lany (2a40ac) — 9/5/2018 @ 1:13 pmAnotgehr person approached someone at another hearing.
It turned out to be Alex Jones.
http://www.newser.com/story/264237/alex-jones-marco-rubio-get-into-it-outside-hearing.html
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 1:26 pm“I swear to God, I don’t know who you are, man.”
This is the worst thing anyone has ever said to Alex Jones
Davethulhu (fab944) — 9/5/2018 @ 1:35 pmI’m not saying to not be civil of course, but that seems to be provoking some folks. It’s like wanting the best country for even those Hillary supporting devils is the opposite of what some want these days.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 1:43 pmrubio burbled on and on about russian interference in social media
like a half-wit
alex jones seemed like he’d taken amphetamines plus he seemed anxious like he knew he needed to perform well but wasn’t really sure what to do
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/5/2018 @ 1:45 pmWho cares about the handshake – not me anyway.
Why can’t Cravenaugh say whether he thinks Traitor Trump can pardon himself?
Why are there so many documents being hidden?
Why can’t he answer basic questions about whether a sitting president can face charges?
Why are we letting a criminal elect one of our justices to the SCOTUS?
Tillman (d34303) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:06 pm“It’s like wanting the best country for even those Hillary supporting devils is the opposite of what some want these days.”
You could not be more wrong. It’s not that most conservatives don’t want the best country for every citizen (and that’s the point), it’s that most Hillary/Obama/Bernie supporters consider that country one of the worst on earth and needing the state to make it all better.
harkin (9803a7) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:11 pmBreaking- Trump goes full Queeg, red and sweaty on live TV over NYT anom. op-ed.
Prop cops behind him clap press bashing.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:19 pmAttention K-Mart shoppers!
Spanky All Butthurt cleanup on isle 9: https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/05/politics/nyt-trump-resistance-op-ed/index.html
Tillman (d34303) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:19 pm@29 Sammy
Re: the “white power” OK gesture.
National Review is being disingenuous, especially with their link to that ADL article. It overlooks this section, which (in my opinion) likely represents Ms. Bash’s motivations:
I personally think it’s lame along with all the other “doing xxx to trigger the libs” performances.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:20 pmSo do you identify with my point or do you not? You’ve decided to respond as though it pertains to you, but you deny it does. Seems to me like you just want to disagree for the sake of disagreeing. If so, I think I’m 100% right.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:36 pm54. Why can’t Cravenaugh say whether he thinks Traitor Trump can pardon himself?
It might come before the court.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:44 pm“Please, we must maintain decorum and proper order to ram through the Supreme Court pick of the rapist game show host before he’s indicted for a federal crime.”
“Crazytown,” indeed.
Tillman (d34303) — 9/5/2018 @ 2:53 pmSammy, attorneys have to hide their opinions on law because “it might come before the court?” I don’t follow that. SCOTUS nominees hiding their opinions of the law didn’t come about until Roe, you know. It’s just a slippery, weasel move.
Tillman (d34303) — 9/5/2018 @ 3:02 pmThe guy (or gal, but probably a guy) who wrote that anonymous op-ed in the NYT is a great American, serving the Office of the President and not kowtowing to the man currently in that office. I wouldn’t be surprised if the author is General Kelly.
Paul Montagu (9dcfd2) — 9/5/2018 @ 3:08 pmBetween funerals and this abortion these ingrates deserve coal.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 3:10 pmIll bet thats the only time them women scream.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 3:12 pmDid anyone notice at the very end of the video that the man’s outstretched hand quickly turned to the wagging, pointing finger? Anyways, I question his sincerity. It was political theater. He could’ve easily arranged a meet-up with Kavanaugh that did not have to be in a Senate hearing room.
Paul Montagu (9dcfd2) — 9/5/2018 @ 3:15 pmYou’ve bought timeshare in the past, montagu.
Narciso (c54992) — 9/5/2018 @ 3:27 pmAnd he can sell that timeshare with a bridge to nowhere at the low price of THREE HOURS OF SCREAMING BINARY CHOICE !!!!!
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 3:52 pmNYT Op-Ed: I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration – 9/5/2018
I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
“President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.
It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.
The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.
I would know. I am one of them.
To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.
But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.
That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.
The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.
Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.
In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.
Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.
But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.
From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.
Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.
“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.
The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.
It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.
The result is a two-track presidency.
Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.
Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.
On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.
This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.
Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.
The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.
Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.
We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.
There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.”
The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.
My guess: Mike Pence.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:03 pmI agree. Ginsburg and Breyer should immediately resign from the Supreme Court since rapist Bill Clinton put them there.
NJRob (b00189) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:04 pmYou mean the guy who admitted he’s part of the deep state trying to undermine the President and overturn the 2016 election?
NJRob (b00189) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:05 pm“So do you identify with my point or do you not? You’ve decided to respond as though it pertains to you, but you deny it does. Seems to me like you just want to disagree for the sake of disagreeing. If so, I think I’m 100% right.”
Well, you could try reading it again, or else take that glorious response around the park a couple more times, declare yourself 100% right again and live in bliss.
harkin (c7ccf8) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:07 pm@63. Not really. It’s fairly gutless and certainly less than adult not to attach your name to it.
My guess is it’s Pence, given his moral streak, the rhyming phrases, tone of the piece and his duties w/t McCain ceremonies. Nobody’s job is safe and he doesn’t want to be tossed off the ticket.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:12 pm“I agree. Ginsburg and Breyer should immediately resign from the Supreme Court since rapist Bill Clinton put them there.“
It’s different when their side does it.
Nobody dodged questions like Sleepy Ruth, the champion of inclusion who hired one black clerk in 28 years while on the appellate and supreme courts.
harkin (c7ccf8) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:17 pmI doubt it, unless he got a spine transplant while nobody was looking.
It would be cool if it were Nikki Haley.
But regardless, these guys are doing it all wrong.
Instead of taking papers off his desk, so he can’t sign them, they need to slip papers onto his desk so he *will* sign them.
Like a 100-page policy whitepaper full of dense, unreadable technical jargon, or an innocuous but verbose proclamation of National Meatloaf Day, where the key sentence “I hereby resign the office of the presidency, effective immediately” is tucked away on the next to last page.
Problem solved, with no constitutional crisis of any kind.
Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:21 pmSo glad elite jebbie spent 100’s of millions on 1 vote. The republicans are suckers.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:28 pmlmao.
That or an Anchorman teleprompter trick, where “I hereby resign” is translated to Russian and he’s told it’s an Orthodox Christmas prayer.
urbanleftbehind (fea0b4) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:30 pmPence sold his soul to the devil on the day he agreed to be on the ticket.
Pence went around the country for months telling people to put Donald Trump where he is today.
It’s more likely to be Ivanka than Pence.
Another reason it’s for sure not Pence: the NYT said disclosing the official’s name would jeopardize their job.
That is undoubtedly true of every “senior administration official,” except one: Mike Pence.
Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:33 pmIf its Ivanka, why not Jared or Mnuchin – not only do they worry about “job”, but having Alpha goy dispatched for a certain mission(ary) if they get out of line.
urbanleftbehind (fea0b4) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:40 pmDave, I understand where you’re coming from. I think Trump’s a pretty terrible person. But if Trump offered me the VP slot, I’d jump for it. I think many patriotic people would, and not solely sell-outs. Pence is actually not a bad VP. He’s mild and if something happened to cause Trump out of office, Pence would provide an element of stability. I don’t hold it against any of Trump’s administration for trying to make some kind of difference. We’ve all worked for people we didn’t necessarily like that much.
And even those who campaigned for Trump, many of them genuinely believed Trump would be a brilliant businessman, and really shake things up to cut out bad elements of our government. I don’t think it’s worked out that way at all, but we can’t put humpty dumpty back together again if we can’t try to see the other point of view on Trump. Yes, Trump’s critics were right, but somehow we’ve all got to come together, and I don’t think told-ya-sos will work.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:42 pmPerhaps one of the republican clowns could ask Kavanaugh to explain to the stupid democrats how fisa warrants are obtained.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:49 pmPence is next in the shooting gallery, I blame him in part for this kerfluffle with general Flynn,
Narciso (c54992) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:51 pmHe’s been a bumbling Cassius since the get go, had to be scared into submission at the Newark Airport.
urbanleftbehind (fea0b4) — 9/5/2018 @ 4:54 pmDave, I understand where you’re coming from. I think Trump’s a pretty terrible person. But if
Shame!
If I thought I could use the vice-presidency to remove him from office using the 25th Amendment, I would be tempted to consider. But accepting any position, especially a high-ranking one like VP or “senior administration official” implies a commitment to support the chief executive and his policies, and there is no way I could make such a commitment, and no way I would lie to get around doing so.
It’s hard not to look good when you’re being compared to Donald Trump. The fact is, Pence was smart enough to know what Donald Trump was, and he agreed to help put him in the White House anyway. That is an inexcusable failure of judgment.
This isn’t about “working for people we don’t like”. It’s about becoming a servant of someone who is proudly and irredeemably evil.
I don’t doubt it. Their first step should be to openly admit the magnitude and gravity of that error of judgment. Like Donald Trump’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton for president, it should be, per se, a disqualification from consideration for any position of responsibility in the future.
Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:09 pm@75. I doubt it, unless he got a spine transplant while nobody was looking.
We’ll likely know eventually. Not putting your name to it is pretty spineless as is. But it would be the first hint at something he’d do ‘to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:10 pm@78. Another reason it’s for sure not Pence: the NYT said disclosing the official’s name would jeopardize their job. That is undoubtedly true of every “senior administration official,” except one: Mike Pence.
Not so sure; nobody’s job is secure and there’s no guarantee Trump wants him to stay on the ticket in 2020 anyway- if he makes it to another election cycle. We’ll find out soon enough most likely.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:14 pmThe Senate should censure the Minority Leader for bringing the Senate into disrepute.
Kevin M (5d3e49) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:14 pmThe writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.
My guess: Some GS-12 in charge of paper-clip procurement.
Or Sarah Jeong. This is the NYT after all, where meeting a press time is more important than the truth.
nk (dbc370) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:22 pmNewsflash: Guttenberg refused to shake my hand! Where’s the media coverage?
rcocean (1a839e) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:23 pm@88 nk
“Or Sarah Jeong. This is the NYT after all, where meeting a press time is more important than the truth.”
All the messaging currently coming out of the white house is treating it as true. Not a sign of “fake news!” anywhere.
Davethulhu (fddbc4) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:25 pmMy money is on the russian janitor who works for the NYT.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:26 pmWhoever wrote the Op-ed is cowardly, gutless, Never-Trumper. Is anybody surprised he’s a freetrader and for open borders? And all in favor of Mueller?
Anyone with morals, would resign. Not sabotage Trump while pretending to be a loyal subordinate.
People hate traitors for a reason.
rcocean (1a839e) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:26 pmI didn’t know you would be that jazzed up for this bit of news, rocean.
urbanleftbehind (fea0b4) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:26 pmPress Secretary Sanders:
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1037452576533434373
“The individual behind this piece has chosen to deceive, rather than support, the duly elected President of the United States. He is not putting country first, but putting himself and his ego ahead of the will of the American people. This coward should do the right thing and resign.”
Davethulhu (fddbc4) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:33 pmSpoiler alert: Donald Trump is the traitor who is still trying to cover up a foreign military attack on our country, because it was intended to (and did) help him.
Dave (445e97) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:34 pmDollars to donuts that’s it’s nobody who went in with Trump but, instead, either a GS careerist or deputy-assistant or assistant-deputy or deputy-assistant-to-the-assistant-deputy holdover from the Obama administration.
nk (dbc370) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:34 pmAlex Jones to write the rebuttal for the NYT.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:38 pmAssume power, pull levers, take control without ever having to run for office, earn a single vote or gain consent of the governed. NeverTrumpers take note: that NYT writer has captured your blueprint for winning.
Munroe (9107ad) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:38 pmDave showing his CONservative beliefs at 5:09pm. Must put a leftist in power. It’s the only way CONservatives win. Just like Bill Kristol demands.
NJRob (b00189) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:39 pmAlex Jones best watch out for the baser of Narciso’s relatives.
urbanleftbehind (fea0b4) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:39 pmI was loathing Alex Jones when he was dissing the tea party as being too globalism. His theories are fairly facile claptrap,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:45 pmStakes are too high to refuse to serve in trump’s government. Take Sessions’s glorious recusal as the best example and every soldier deployed as a fairly great one.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 9/5/2018 @ 5:55 pm@96. Make mine jelly.
It’s clearly someone there from the get-go. And still there. My bet remains Pence and the McCain mess, disrespect in death– flags and all– was likely the last straw.
He can go rogue. Or go Spiro.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:13 pm97.Alex Jones to write the rebuttal for the NYT.
Breaking news??? – Alex Jones can write?!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:14 pmNo doubt the SOB is a lawyer.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:27 pmDoes Sarah Sanders not understand that people who do things for the sake of ego generally do not choose to remain anonymous?
Is anyone really incredulous that Trump’s behavior behind closed doors might be very much like his public comportment?
Radegunda (7137ae) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:34 pmNotrumper hysteria is the best. JHC you people are a lol 3-ring circus.
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:37 pmHee-Haw
86, It can’t be Mike Pence, for reasons besides not fitting his beliefs: He doesn’t have any line responsibilities. In GHWB’s words in 1986: He’s out of the loop – which used to mean out of the chain of command. Bush didn’t realize in 1992 that the meaning had been changed.
Sammy Finkelman (286595) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:50 pmIt can’t be Mike Pence
Yes it can.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:53 pm@54. Swamp-Creatures; it’s what you don’t know and see that makes a horror flick flush with fear.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:56 pmmg, the hysteria is coming from Trump devotees who appear to be desperately afraid of learning that the Donald Trump they idolize is largely a fantasy.
Radegunda (7137ae) — 9/5/2018 @ 6:59 pmIt still very vague hyperventilating, I would have thought he had called air strike on a north Korean launch site. That might have been necessary last summer.
Narciso (c54992) — 9/5/2018 @ 7:15 pm111- shove it in the ballot box
mg (7e0e37) — 9/5/2018 @ 7:27 pmI have a new thread on the NYT op-ed here. Take your commentary about that piece to that thread, please.
Patterico (115b1f) — 9/5/2018 @ 7:44 pm