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8/13/2018

White House Reality Show Drama, Episode 415 or Something…

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:37 am



[guest post by Dana]

More drama this weekend involving only the best people in the White House. Former Trump-reality-star-turned-former-Trump-White-House-aide, the contentious Omarosa Manigault Newman released a secret recording on Sunday’s Meet the Press of a meeting at which chief of staff John Kelly informed her that she was being dismissed:

Manigault Newman cites this as a threat:

KELLY: I think it’s important to understand that if we make this a friendly departure, we can all be, you know, we can look at your time here in the White House as a year of service to the nation. And then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future relative to your reputation.

Aside from the serious ethical breach of having taped a meeting from what was once believed to be the most secure location in the West Wing – the Situation Room – there is the question of whether any laws were broken. You can read some varying opinions here:

Josh Geltzer, who was a senior director for counterterrorism in Obama’s NSC, told me: “Bringing a recording device into a secure facility like the SitRoom is wildly in violation of protocol. Devices like that represent vulnerabilities that hostile actors can exploit to hear sensitive conversations — that’s why they’re kept out so strictly in the first place.”

Former Obama NSC spokesman Ned Price: The Situation Room “is the inner sanctum within an already-secure facility where the most sensitive of the most sensitive information is discussed. It’s where negotiations with Iran were hashed out. It’s where contingency plans for nuclear launches have been developed. The fact that she was recording a conversation in there really raises alarm bells in the minds of people who have worked in that room. … It’s a system based on honor and integrity, and there’s a sign outside that says, ‘Place your phones here.'”

Lawfare Executive Editor Susan Hennessy: “I actually didn’t realize Omarosa didn’t hold any kind of security clearance. That makes it hard to understand why they were in Situation Room but also means it is far less than ‘likely’ that she violated federal law as opposed to just breaking dozens of rules and regulations.”

Further, after Manigault Newman’s termination, she recorded a phone call with President Trump , in which he appears to not have had any knowledge about her dismissal. Of course, it’s good to keep in mind that we are dealing with two highly-skilled, and well-practiced reality show liars:

Omarosa Manigault Newman, the former “Apprentice” contestant who became a White House aide, has provided an audio recording that she says is from 2017 and on which President Donald Trump expresses surprise that she’d been fired from his administration.

The tape, which was played exclusively Monday on “Today” and sparked a harsh attack from Trump on Newman, just hours later, appears to show the president having no idea that Newman had been dismissed by his chief of staff, John Kelly.

“Omarosa? Omarosa what’s going on? I just saw on the news that you’re thinking about leaving? What happened?” Trump is heard saying on the tape, which Newman said was made one day after her termination in December 2017 when Trump called her.

Newman responds, “General Kelly — General Kelly came to me and said that you guys wanted me to leave.”

“No…I, I, Nobody even told me about it,” Trump replies.

Newman then says, “Wow,” before Trump reiterates his shock.

“You know they run a big operation, but I didn’t know it,” Trump is heard saying on the tape. “I didn’t know that. Goddamn it. I don’t love you leaving at all.”

Keep in mind, too, this latest drama started on Friday, when excerpts from Manigault Newman’s tell-all book alleged that she heard Trump use the N-word before he became President Trump, and other racial slurs once he was in office. However, no recording has been released to substantiate these claims. Yet.

And of course it’s unsurprising that President Trump was on Twitter defending himself at all costs and slamming Manigault Newman in light of her reveals, because in a bizarre and incoherent way, the mercurial man-child is utterly consistent in his predictability:

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Wow. Who wants a crap sandwich first thing on a Monday morning? This guy already knew who Manigault Newman was, and had already “fired her” three times. Yes, from a reality show, but because he cites it as reflecting poorly on her character, I will use it to say that if he already knew what she was about, why would he give her access to the most powerful office in the world and the current president? He hired her knowing full well what she was about. And he approved! If the President of the United States believed it wise to give such a “wacky, not smart, and vicious lowlife” the kind of access he did because she said GREAT things about him, then cried and begged, (and according to her, she had more access to Trump than just about anyone else in the White House), then that tells us all we need to know about him. And it’s not good. President Trump owns this mess, from top to bottom, without exception. It’s clear to see that he was unable to recognize spectacularly awful character when it was standing right in front of him. But perhaps that is because, seen through his personal lens, he believed her character, or lack thereof, something both admirable in its familiarity, and that which could be useful to him as well.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

203 Responses to “White House Reality Show Drama, Episode 415 or Something…”

  1. Exhausting.

    Dana (023079)

  2. she’s very trashy and she lies a lot

    she should work for CNN

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. President Trump owns this mess, from top to bottom, without exception.

    sounds more like this is another one of General Kelly’s bungles

    he’s a maladroit incompetent loser, you see

    this is why you don’t hire people who spent years and years and years at the pentagon

    they’re wholly unfit to navigate the real world

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. I want the swamp drained as much as the next person, but can the White House please hire some competent people who will do their jobs and not end up on the news the next day for saying or doing something idiotic? I agree with Dana–it’s exhausting keeping up with all of the drama.

    Rochf (877dba)

  5. isn’t calling this exhausting a little on the dramatic side

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  6. However, no recording has been released to substantiate these claims. Yet.

    yes yes the CNN Jake Tapper fake news has been hiding it all this time to protect President Trump like how they did for Obama with the khalidi tape (jew hate tape)

    this media dynamic is so frustrating for truth-seekers but it is what it is

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. So can we gather from this that because she said great things about Trump, that demonstrated her great character to him?? In spite of him having fired her three times, that is…

    Dana (43329c)

  8. In spite of him having fired her three times, that is…

    you realize this was a part of a reality show where she played a “villain” what the audience loved to hate?

    it’s not the same as being fired for real

    i don’t know how to explain this

    you just have to watch reality tv and see how they do this stuff

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  9. Of course I know that, happy feet. The question you should be asking, is does the president know that? Because judging from his tweet he is using that as an example of her less than stellar character. He brought it up. Maybe you should ask yourself about that.

    Dana (023079)

  10. Anyone who sat through The Apprentice knew that the hiring of Omarosa was not going to end well. Nothing Omarosa is going to say will change my opinion of Trump’s fitness for office. Her being hired in the first place did help me determine that, yes, my initial impression was correct and he was manifestly unfit.

    Appalled (96665e)

  11. You are right, Dana. DJT owns every bit of this mess. Speaking of trashy.

    But his fawners (as opposed to people who support him when he does something good, and critique him when he does something profoundly stupid, like this) will don their well worn knee pads.

    Some folks like many of DJT’s actions, like SCOTUS nominees. So do I.

    But this dumpster fire nonsense gets in the way of his supposed goals, and demonstrates that character counts.

    Simon Jester (6783c2)

  12. Further, if Omarosa is all those negative things that Trump claims she is, why on earth hire her in the first place? He worked with her for several years, And knew what she was about. Why won’t you let him own his responsibility, and stop trying to shield him like an unknowing child?

    Dana (023079)

  13. Of course I know that, happy feet. The question you should be asking, is does the president know that? Because judging from his tweet he is using that as an example of her less than stellar character. He brought it up. Maybe you should ask yourself about that.

    but President Trump isn’t doing a non sequitur

    he notes that she was a failed contestant 3 times on a game show and goes on to cite her viciousness her lack of professionalism and her stupidity

    this makes sense cause of it both trivializes her and impugns her

    this however is non and also sequitur:

    Yes, from a reality show, but because he cites it as reflecting poorly on her character, I will use it to say that if he already knew what she was about, why would he give her access to the most powerful office in the world and the current president?

    President hire a LOT of trashy people Bush did it Obama did it and President Trump has done it too.

    But there’s tons of reasons we can come up with that would explain why he gave her an opportunity to serve.

    But I’d bet it was for one or two very specific reasons known only to President Trump and herself.

    She failed though and that’s a shame, but it doesn’t mean that President Trump is a bad person when in fact he was really nice to give her an opportunity and she squandered in and then disgraced herself by telling all these lies.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  14. Happyfeet,

    I think it’s important to remember that the president created a specific position just for her: director of communications for the White House Public Liaison Office.

    Dana (023079)

  15. Senior director of counter terror, like the ones that told him Islamic State was a jv matter, who blamed benghazi on a video, who sent 150 billion to Iran.
    I didn’t like omarosa from word one, but it was considered she was necessary for putreach.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  16. Why won’t you let him own his responsibility, and stop trying to shield him like an unknowing child?

    People are really unfair to President Trump sometimes, and to me this is an injustice.

    I can’t be silent in the face of this kind of injustice.

    And so I speak out so that the truth has at least some small chance of being heard.

    I speak out because I love America and I want President Trump to continue to do the great leadership and the beautiful accomplishments.

    I speak out because it’s the right thing to do.

    And because silence in the face of injustice is cowardly and dispiriting.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  17. I thought the twist is you have to believe every allegation she made as with bannon.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  18. happyfeet (28a91b) — 8/13/2018 @ 10:35 am

    Lol.

    Dana (023079)

  19. The trouble with being a cheerleader is that you have to live with supporting every foolish thing “your team” does.

    It’s wholly American to criticize politicians when they make mistakes, as it is wholly American to praise politicians—even when you disagree with them—when they do something correct.

    This—right here—is why Patterico ridicules unthinking support of DJT. And if you look back, he has always had this attitude.

    Simon Jester (6783c2)

  20. August.
    White House tapes.

    History rhymes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  21. At least Kelly and Mattis are around. Sigh.

    Paul Montagu (b566df)

  22. I think it’s important to remember that the president created a specific position just for her: director of communications for the White House Public Liaison Office.

    This sounds like it could have been a great opportunity for imasmellybutt to use her communications skills to reach out to different groups and build support for the beautiful policies President Trump is famous for.

    I wonder if she just failed to dedicate herself to the job.

    You can’t really ask her about this stuff cause she lies a lot though.

    But when the history of this great era is written, maybe then the true story will be told

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  23. excuse me the first line of the preceding comment was intended to be italicized

    i got moderated so i copied the comment and fixed it but i forgot to re-do the italics

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  24. The huntress hired a chief of staff, frank Bailey, he proved unsatisfactory so she fired him, he got back at her with a poison pen memoir, there was another minor official Larry persilly, based on his slanders Obama put him in charge of the Alaskan pipeline.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  25. So her big ‘money shot’ is said to be those tapes from the apprentice, which she doesn’t have, baby squirrel.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  26. Aside from the President of the United States creating a unique position in his administration for a vicious lowlife, all because she said GREAT things about him, this is actually something interesting that the president just tweeted :

    Wacky Omarosa already has a fully signed Non-Disclosure Agreement!

    Was there really an NDA? According to Kellyanne Conway, yes:

    “I’m told [Omarosa] signed them when she was on The Apprentice, certainly at the campaign. We’ve all signed them in the West Wing.”

    I guess the question now, is whether it’s enforceable?

    Dana (023079)

  27. The legendary gold metal in these things was procopius, as a counselor to Justinian who wrote a hagiographic account, years later a secret history surfaced accusing him and his wife theodora of bring demonic creatures, top that!

    Narciso (d1f714)

  28. Hm, according to Ben Shapiro, if there were an NDA, it’s highly unlikely that it would be enforceable:

    Now, would such a non-disclosure agreement be binding? It’s highly doubtful. While Kellyanne Conway says that they “have confidentiality agreements in the West Wing,” it’s doubtful that any judge would uphold such agreements as pertaining to Trump as an individual. The Washington Post reported earlier this year that the Trump administration had placed $10 million penalties in confidentiality agreements pertaining to “all nonpublic information I learn of or gain access to in the course of my official duties in the service of the United States government on White House staff.”

    The problem is that the agreements aren’t with the government – they’re supposedly with Trump himself. You can’t govern publicly funded speech interactions with private agreements this way, in all likelihood; the enforcement mechanism would have to be governmental, and that would probably violate the First Amendment. Leaking classified material is already illegal, and President Trump can fire leakers of non-classified material, but NDAs between Trump himself and people like Omarosa would face serious difficulties. In McGehee v. Casey (DC Circuit, 1983), for example, the court said “The government has no legitimate interest in censoring unclassified materials.”

    So, we’ll have to see the scope of the Trump NDA’s. But if what we’ve read reflects those NDA’s in any way, it’s highly unlikely this case ever sees court. And if it does, Omarosa will have the power of discovery to compel the release of information concerning the formation of such NDA’s, which could be damaging to Trump on his own.

    Dana (023079)

  29. One hundred percent deployable decoy, watch the little birdie.
    After all, given her reality show history, who would ever believe anything she ever said?

    (Except the press when it suited them.)

    All the little paths she can lead them down that all go nowhere.

    Ingot9455 (7ff01c)

  30. Maybe she’ll tell them she’s seen the Russian pee tape.

    Ingot9455 (7ff01c)

  31. Only the best people.

    Colonel Klink (6e7a1c)

  32. Omarosa makes a nice distraction for a media that’s easily distracted, and prefers the more obvious ways of attacking Trump’s reputation.

    Real journalists would go after the business, and the finances. Or they would go after the effect of his policies (like the separation of children) and stay on the issue.

    But media must have novelty, and the trailer trash aspects of this Presidency make an easier story line to follow. And wait, here’s another tweet!

    Appalled (96665e)

  33. Learning of the breach of super duper secret protocols with the taping in the Sit Room, I was instantly reminded of Dr. Strangelove. “Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here. This is the War Room.”

    https://youtu.be/UAeqVGP-GPM

    DJT’s hiring of OMN was deeply unsettling to me. I was already quite concerned that DJT would operate as a fool. The judgment he demonstrated with her hiring affirmed my worst fears. We now see just how moronic and absurd this decision was.

    DJT has got some important things very right. The problem is trust. With the coming difficulties (DJT not getting his way on immigration, the wall, and China), can we count on him to act rationally? I want to. But, I don’t.

    Ed from SFV (6d42fa)

  34. 1) Toupee guy isn’t in the loop
    or
    2) Trump didn’t want her to blame him, as he might need to use her again

    Maybe both.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  35. I think throwing general fLynn to the sharks, was more indication em

    narciso (d1f714)

  36. The President needs the same level of competence in staffing hires as he does in his judicial appts.

    Can’t believe that this level of management has not resulted in worse.

    harkin (096d35)

  37. And then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future relative to your reputation.

    I’m going to go out on a limb here, and way not only has that ship sailed but she is going to have some difficulty gaining any kind of employment where confidentiality in involved. It goes without saying she’ll never pass the questions regarding a security clearance.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  38. I’ve almost gotten to the point where I don’t think neverTrumpers can make it through their mornings without a double stacked crap sandwich.

    Sorta like a refined alcoholic needing a double Elmer T. Lee as an eye opener.

    Word to the wise: Its a crap sandwich. Stop looking for them and if you do find one don’t eat it. Crap sandwiches have been there in every administration. Bill Clinton had one for everybody everyday if we wanted to look for it, GWB gave us crap sandwiches in Iraq, Afghanistan and domestically, Obama force fed us crap sandwiches like Obamacare and Iran and then mocked us for eating them (the media told us they were chocolate marshmallow creme, Hillary ran a crap sandwich of a campaign because she is a crap sandwich.

    I know its hf….lol… but I read him as saying why not focus on the positives. Isn’t it better to go hunt for a nice strawberry than to just eat the steaming crapper of a sandwich the media serves up?

    We are about to sign a unilateral trade deal with Mexico. That means unilateral deal with Canada, which means end of NAFTA, tariffs etc.

    China realized they can’t tariff soy beans or oil because our products are competitive before tariffs and US can fulfill delivery

    Tax revenues are up, even as rates go down. Employment nearly full and wages are climbing

    Russians are said to have been slowly agreeing to push Iran out of Syria if Israel agrees to let Assad stay, Iran’s youth are pushing the mullahs for freedom,.

    Russians economy slips below that of South Korea and Trump is (lamely thus far) trying to push Space Force as his version of Reagans Star Wars as a Russian military economy breaker, plus Russia is facing more opposition to its lines of export like the Adriatic Pipeline.

    North Korea is at least dialed back for now

    Venezuela is still imploding

    Trump has weathered a soft coup attempt by the Strzok wing of the FBI

    But by all means lets talk about Omarosa over sandwiches because she is important. Her story is at least as relevant and important to America as Paris Hilton is these days. Wait. No. Paris Hilton is way more relevant, even though I haven’t seen her out disgracing herself in years

    steveg (a9dcab)

  39. But this dumpster fire nonsense gets in the way of his supposed goals, and demonstrates that character counts.

    If the press were bringing these stories in an even-handed manner, yes, it would be character alone that was at issue. But they have a sign out in front saying “Bring your dumpster fire stories here!”.

    Whatever Trump does during the say will be inspected, sorted and filtered. The output of this process will be whatever stories put Trump in the worst possible light.

    If he signed a treaty to dismantle all nuclear weapons, the stories would read “Trump agrees to weaken defense” and “Trump’s latest will squander billions in US assets!”

    If he announced a cure for AIDS, the story would read “Too late for millions of victims, Trump offers a possibly false hope to many.”

    If he sneezes, the story would be about spreading germs.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  40. “DJT’s hiring of OMN was deeply unsettling to me. I was already quite concerned that DJT would operate as a fool. The judgment he demonstrated with her hiring affirmed my worst fears. We now see just how moronic and absurd this decision was.'”

    Sad, maybe. Dealbreaker, hell no!

    As Rumsfeld once said, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish to have. And too many of the people with ‘competency’ in Washington generally have big loyalty issues. “I want people invested in me and my agenda and not in the current system” means that you’ll burn through a lot of lowlifes before you get the team you want. I would rather tolerate the occasional problems of the nepotistic spoils system than the systemic problems of the technocratic credentialists at this juncture. So would the rest of America.

    And hey, George Steinbrenner was fired repeatedly from the same employer over his lifetime.

    “One hundred percent deployable decoy, watch the little birdie.
    After all, given her reality show history, who would ever believe anything she ever said?

    (Except the press when it suited them.)

    All the little paths she can lead them down that all go nowhere.”

    After seeing how Scaramucci, Spicer, Cohen, Bannon and Lewandowski leveraged their post-Trump positions into permanent fixtures in the media landscape, I kind of have to lol a bit at thinking anybody ever STOPS working for Trump just because he may have fired them. They’ll be permanent celebrities long after their time in power is over.

    Steppe Nomad (2e89fd)

  41. *during the Day

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  42. Not to say this venue has not covered those other issues, but one could argue that nearly anything is more important than Omarosa

    steveg (a9dcab)

  43. For example why is the media so cozy with Antifa, even when assaulted by Antifa?
    Bodes ill for the 2020 no?

    steveg (a9dcab)

  44. Yes, this is a petty issue, but “Petty” is Donald J Trump’s middle name.

    (the J is silent)

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  45. I remember Paul Eaton wee assigned to train the iraqi army which rebelled at first chance, so he blamed rumsfeld, Janis karpinski ciuldnt manage Abu ghraib so she blamed the mossad. Btw that’s who Glenn Simpson said told him of the chabad link to putin.

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. Prove that these dumpster fires are getting in the way of his goals.
    Trumps is executing on Judges, on defense, on trade, on foreign policy, on taxes, on jobs, on the economy as a whole.
    Sure there is more that could be done because we’ve let the DoJ run amok on Trump, the courts are blocking his wall, immigration, Obamamcare repeal. neverTrumpers like Ryan are screwing up immigration, Obamacare repeal.
    Over his first 18 months, Trump has far out executed the last President, President Clinton, and Bush on economy and trade, in their first 18 months

    steveg (a9dcab)

  47. Hohum, meanwhile less shiny but meet material:
    https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/#comments

    narciso (d1f714)

  48. Every admin has dumpster fires. the GOP Congress can’t handle theirs as well due to all the pearl clutching rather than fire fighting

    steveg (a9dcab)

  49. Greatest.

    Manager.

    Of.

    All.

    Time.

    Dave (445e97)

  50. Let’s help out Tammy Faye Huckabee Sanders, class:

    Everybody is obviously wacky, not smart, and vicious lowlife when you’re the Stable Genius. So he has to hire the best of them he can get.

    That’ll work for the Fox & Friends crowd.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  51. @45.Yes, this is a petty issue, but “Petty” is Donald J Trump’s middle name.

    Remember, Donald was an avid reader of Playboy back in the day and Petty girl issues were common.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  52. Better
    Manager (despite the chaos)
    Than
    Hillary

    1,2,… “but the Russian’s (sob), and the white women (waah), and the unwashed (boo hoo), the uneducated (sneer), the yokels (sob)…

    steveg (a9dcab)

  53. Spicer, was certainly substandard, general Kelly was a good replacement

    Narciso (d1f714)

  54. I would urge her to take the high road and to stop making a spectacle of herself

    it’s just so tacky number one but you know what else?

    her lies are looking more and more like a bald-faced attempt to cast aspersions on our president, President Donald Trump

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  55. Who cares but vermin in the news media. Otherwise they have to report firing of peter strock.

    wendell (8b11e8)

  56. Pretty much expected her to be a train wreck when he hired her, and she has not disappointed by being disappointing in her behavior.

    Not always in agreement with Patterico on Trump, I like what he is getting done and can overlook plenty of noise for those results … but this hire was a fumble.

    PrincetonAl (1d6b48)

  57. Feet:

    The Divine Ms. O is looking for her third act. Peddling what Le Resistance wants to buy probably works to get her a million or two, and maybe a media gig on a smaller cable network at 3 AM, or a modestly funded youtube channel.

    If it doesn’t work out — she’ll probably do a guest turn on Bridezillas.

    Appalled (96665e)

  58. At the very least, one would think we should be able to agree on these points.:

    a) Trump hired her because he liked her and though highly of her.

    b) He liked her because she said “GREAT” things about him.

    c) He liked her so much, he created a special position just for her.

    d) He thought so highly of her that he legitimized her at $180K year.

    e) Trump owns all of this. Yet another in a long line of poor choices (Scaramucci, Spicer, Cohen, Bannon and Lewandowski).

    But…but… Antifa!!

    Dana (023079)

  59. For all of you complaining that it’s the corrupt media zeroing in on this because they hate Trump or whatever, does it even occur to you that Trump himself keeps ratcheting up the publicity about the story because he cannot resist making himself the center of attention and taking a vigorous self- defensive position of attack??

    Dana (023079)

  60. President Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt here no question.

    He’s earned that much at least.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. Sean Spicer should have played up the SNL angle. Started duplicating it and topping it. Brought a supersoaker to the press gaggles to hose Jim Acosta down.

    Ingot9455 (7ff01c)

  62. At the very least, one would think we should be able to agree on these points.:

    I don’t think it helps to list points that are unfavorable to President Trump.

    I could list lots of stuff but let’s stay focused on making America great again how’s that sound

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  63. https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/democrats-positive-socialism-capitalism.aspx

    In other news, the left wants to enslave us and turn us into Venezuela.

    NJRob (cb1940)

  64. This tape actaully helps Kelly – it desn’t hurt him. (Omarosa claimed though, ot refuted some lie later told about her, so it was a good thing she did it – so perhaps it also helps her. But it doesn’t make her case.)

    KELLY: I think it’s important to understand that if we make this a friendly departure, we can all be, you know, we can look at your time here in the White House as a year of service to the nation. And then you can go on without any type of difficulty in the future relative to your reputation

    This is not so much a threat, as it isd an offer of a “plea-bargain.” And if he is offering her a deal, it means he is not sure that the firing will stand up if she protests. Or at least doesn’t want political fallout.

    It could be that the “legal” issues are both debateable – did she use a government vehicle where she shouldn’t – and curable, by reimbursement, so he doesn’t want an argument over it.

    It seems to me like, to Kelly, the “integrity” issues are more important than the “legal” issues.

    It also seems to me like General Kelly is not on top of things – he can’t give Omarosa Manigault Newman an explanation, or even an example of what she did wrong in his eyes. The “legal issues” he delegates to other people, and he cannot specify anything when it coems to integrity.

    It’s almost like he’s carrying out somebody else’s recommendation (probably Rob Porter, who may be lying to Kelly about a few things – don’t discount that.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  65. What are the integrity issues? He said it is something that, in the military, could lead to a court martial. This doesn’t have to be something like stealing, which might be what Kelly means when he refers to as legal issues. It could be dereliction of duty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dereliction_of_duty

    A service member who is derelict has willfully refused to perform his duties (or follow a given order) or has incapacitated himself in such a way that he cannot perform his duties

    That’s probably not exactly a requirement in the White House; it’s not run under military discipline,

    But it could also be things like claiming that you did something that you didn’t or false excuses for absences…or one thing she did – she secretly invited guests from her wedding into the White House!

    Being argumentative and even verbally abusive with other people, if it happened, as much as he might not like it, couldn’t really be called an integrity issue. Anyway Kelly is not firing her over anything like that.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  66. and red queen wants to make real mark Lloyd’s dream of ‘wonderful democratic revolution, ot, that fmr police chief of a caracas suburb, who admitted he was connected to a drone attack, what was he thinking?

    narciso (d1f714)

  67. sorry red sqaw, this septuagenarian wanna be madame lafarges, ‘Szechuan diane’ Feinstein, run together, yes that 25 year spy in her office, should be worth a note no?

    narciso (d1f714)

  68. wow.

    if you thought Bob Goodlatte was trash turns out his son Bobby Goodlatte is even trashier

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  69. When Omarosa asks if the President knows, and Kelly replies let’s not go down that road, and this is non-negotiable, that means that Donald Trump does NOT in fact know she is about to be fired. (Otherwise, he’d say yes.)

    And that’s what Trump says in the recording of his call with Omarosa and I don’t think he’s lying here.

    And Trump now says he had left it up to Kelly.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1029002242932834310

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    …really bad things. Nasty to people & would constantly miss meetings & work. When Gen. Kelly came on board he told me she was a loser & nothing but problems. I told him to try working it out, if possible, because she only said GREAT things about me – until she got fired!

    6:50 AM – 13 Aug 2018

    Trump told Kelly to try working it out.

    Note: When Trump says “until she got fired” he is not being quite accurate. It was some time after she got fired – months – that she said bad thing things about him, so it wasn’t “until she got fired” but some time later.

    Trump’s first tweet here is more of a lie: I mean why call her wacky, or claim she never will make it and all these insults.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1028996374174593025

    Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time. She never made it, never will. She begged me for a job, tears in her eyes, I said Ok. People in the White House hated her. She was vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see her but heard….

    6:27 AM – 13 Aug 2018

    I think the firing has been fully explained now (in general terms) vicious, nasty, would constantly miss meetings & work. That’s fully consistent with Kelly’s integrity issues that are would be court martial worthy in the military. It was also his decision, except that it wasn’t. he was almost certainly following the advice of someone else.

    But Kelly wasn’t being honest with the public.

    Oh by the way, as Trump points out, Omarosa hasd already signed a non-disclosure agreement – what is this she is saying about how she didn’t want to go to work for the campaign because she would have to sign a non-disclosure agreement??

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1029038164248338432

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    Wacky Omarosa already has a fully signed Non-Disclosure Agreement!

    9:13 AM – 13 Aug 2018

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  70. Everybody is obviously wacky, not smart, and vicious lowlife when you’re the Stable Genius. So he has to hire the best of them he can get.

    At $180K per annum.

    Trump needs to reimburse the treasury for every penny of taxpayer money wasted on his low-life lackey.

    Dave (445e97)

  71. this is the way they did it in Nicaragua back in the 80s, when deblasio came to town:

    https://nypost.com/2018/08/12/de-blasio-lets-security-haul-away-post-reporter-for-asking-question/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    narciso (d1f714)

  72. 62.President Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt here no question

    He do love his Petty girls, eh, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  73. The security of the Situation Room depends on the person inside it. It’s not something to worry about if it is a principal who brings arecoridng device (except that the recording could be stolen)

    If a principal (as opposed to say a cleaning person) is untrustworthy they are not going to gain that much with a recording over what the principal could just tell. Well, some analysts couls extract more information, and it is check against lying.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  74. 63.Sean Spicer should have played up the SNL angle. Started duplicating it and topping it. Brought a supersoaker to the press gaggles to hose Jim Acosta down.

    He wasn’t man enough. Melissa McCarthy was.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  75. @61.For all of you complaining that it’s the corrupt media zeroing in on this because they hate Trump or whatever, does it even occur to you that Trump himself keeps ratcheting up the publicity about the story because he cannot resist making himself the center of attention and taking a vigorous self- defensive position of attack??

    In a way it’s quite Nixonian. Ehrlichman noted a similar obsession the Big Dick had w/Watergate; he just couldn’t leave it alone and kept pulling it back into the WH.

    History rhymes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  76. I like six million dollar reruns from that era, too, disco, but they aren’t pertinent to today,

    narciso (d1f714)

  77. 45.Yes, this is a petty issue, but “Petty” is Donald J Trump’s middle name.

    You know there’s something ‘pee’ in this saga someplace.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  78. “She’s a lowlife. She’s vicious. She’s not smart. I like that in a woman.” — Donald J. Trump

    nk (dbc370)

  79. Omarosa to Trump:

    “General Kelly — General Kelly came to me and said that you guys wanted me to leave.”

    No, he didn’t, and the recording proves it. Kelly specifically REFUSED to answer the question as to whether Trump knew.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  80. Kelly was a good replacement

    A Yugo beats walking.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  81. you liked the Procopius mention, from gibbon, nk, in the secret history, he though both Theodora, who was of the thespian arts, and Justinian, could fly away, what mead was he drinking,

    narciso (d1f714)

  82. Now what I want to know is does she have any recordings of President Bill Clinton? Probably not, but maybe Al Gore?

    https://people.com/celebrity/omarosas-long-history-of-being-fired/

    She worked for Al Gore as scheduling correspondent. She claimed later (at a March 19, 2004 Q & A at a Washington, D.C., panel discussion on “Wearing the Pants: A Woman’s Experience in a Man’s World,”) that she did logistics or advance work but one source told People (posted April 08, 2004) that her exact title was exact title was scheduling correspondent and “her job was to respond to invitations.” A former Gore staffer said she didn’t do her job and it got everybiody in trouble.

    She didn’t get fired in the Clinton Administration, but transferered, over and over again, and was only fired from her 4th job, after two years, in the year 2000.

    Her #2 job was in the White House personnel office.

    Her #3 job in the Clinton Administration?) was in the Commerce Department. She reportedly couldn’t get along with peop;e.

    Her #4 job was also at Commerce, where she lasted a few weeks. Cheryl Shavers, the Under Secretary for Technology in the year 2000, said she was so disruptive one woman wanted to slug her.

    At first she told People she left when she got married, but later said she left “to go out on the campaign for Al Gore.”

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  83. What I’m wondering is waht did Bill Clinton see in her or what political pull did she have?

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  84. @3. sounds more like this is another one of General Kelly’s bungles he’s a maladroit incompetent loser, you see this is why you don’t hire people who spent years and years and years at the pentagon they’re wholly unfit to navigate the real world

    LOL, yes, “non-negotiable discussion” gets your compass spinning, eh, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  85. Clinton kept both Monica Lewinsky and Linda Tripp employed to keep them silent.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  86. Omarosa seems to have honored her non-disclosure agreements from the Clinton administration.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  87. then there was Stanley Hilton, a staffer for senator bob dole who discovered he was pure evil 20 years later, just in time for the presidential election, the marathon, for long term grudges was William bullitt, Wilson’s envoy to the Bolsheviks, then ambassador to the soviet union, france, board member of Aramco, head of state department intelligence, he waited nearly 50 years to publish his psychobiography of Wilson, I recall that from burton hersh’s the old boys,

    narciso (d1f714)

  88. i’m just saying there’s far more questionable hiring decisions in this little white house than the one to hire omarosa

    get a load of this jim mattis weirdo

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  89. Theodora and Justinian? Seriously? What we have with OhMyRosy Mini-gal is a mangy street mutt that Trump brought into the White House which then proceeded to leave nuisances on the carpets.

    nk (dbc370)

  90. Apparently Agent OMN caused ‘kaos’ for Chief of Staff Maxwell Smart by using one of them OTC ballpoint pen recorders; $100 or less on Amazon.

    Next time, Chief, use the Cone of Silence.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  91. ‘Non-negotiable discussion’ coffee mugs and T-shirts should be in the White House souvenir shop by Friday.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  92. Is anybody actually going to lay down good money for her book, you think? Maybe libraries.

    nk (dbc370)

  93. @96. Maybe a book-on-tape if it comes on a pen recorder.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  94. I’ll give her credit for a couple of things. She milked the Trump cow to the top of her bucket, and now she is selling the fertilizer too. So she did learn something on The Apprentice, under the tutelage of the master huckster and bullsh!t salesman.

    nk (dbc370)

  95. #60

    Antifa appears to be gearing up to treat 2020 like the 1968 Democratic Convention, but sure please post more about “OhMyRosy Mini-gal… mangy street mutt that Trump brought into the White House which then proceeded to leave nuisances on the carpets.” its your picnic. I’ll be bringing my own beer and won’t be eating the food though thanks

    steveg (a9dcab)

  96. I thought that nk described the situation better than I could

    steveg (a9dcab)

  97. Buzzfeed is real…

    Colonel Haiku (9298f8)

  98. No i was speaking of procopius, the spurned official.

    narciso (d1f714)

  99. Another completely unforeseen influence of the Trump victory on the economy was the spike in the price of useless book deals. Hillary got millions more than sales of her ice cream and vodka cryfest could have been worth, Comey got millions more than any moralizing priss has ever deserved (which is a negative number…), every cent Omarosa got was a blight on all literature from day one of the history of the written word until now.

    What next? “Tanning Spray on the Tuxedo and Mismatched Cummerbunds” Harrowing Tales of a White House Haberdasher

    steveg (a9dcab)

  100. There’s also the exciting muslim woman bigamist running for office in Minnesota to take the seat formerly held by the domestic abuser Keith Ellison.

    But this is clearly more important.

    NJRob (cb1940)

  101. Oh,

    she married her brother too. So incestuous bigamist.

    NJRob (cb1940)

  102. I remember the good old days when most of the polygamists lived around the Colorado City AZ-Hildale UT region, but its nice to see the Lutherans up in MN get on board the Somali train

    steveg (a9dcab)

  103. keith ellison did muslim violence all up on the women to where they were like hey cut it out i can’t even handle how violent you are

    he didn’t necessarily rape them

    but it’s still very massageyness, what he did

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  104. Oh it turns that nellies ohrs is a,producer for ABC news, where were some of their trump stories coming from?

    Narciso (d1f714)

  105. As long as I got a job thanks to trump I don’t care what he does to libbys , muslims or whatever.

    wendell (9e4e4b)

  106. Now,geltzer mentioned above was a law clerk to judge kozinski.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  107. Greatest.

    Manager.

    Of.

    All.

    Time.

    If the American people wanted great management, Mitt Romney would be halfway through his second term. The stock market, not having to muddle through under Obama and Trump, would be at 50,000.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  108. The Never trumper cry:

    IF only we’d elected Hillary! Damn that Trump.

    He’s so….vulgar.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  109. “…Trump victory on the economy…”

    In America, wage growth is getting wiped out entirely by inflation

    Rising prices have erased U.S. workers’ meager wage gains, the latest sign strong economic growth has not translated into greater prosperity for most middle- and working-class Americans.

    Cost of living was up 2.9 percent from July 2017 to July 2018, the Labor Department reported Friday, an inflation rate that outstripped a 2.7 percent increase in wages over the same period.’ -www.chicagotribune.com

    Trickle down at work.

    “Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.” – Fletcher [John Vernon] ‘The Outlaw Josey Wales’ 1976

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  110. Sorry – but I am supposed to care about this because…?

    I’m nauseated by Omorosa, but not exactly surprised by any of this…or especially alarmed. I suspect there will be an endless stream of “tell-all” novels, that lavishly fund the authors to say crappy things about Trump. It will be a regular cottage industry. The left will dangle untold millions, money they can never hope to recoup, to get people to say bad things about Trump. Not only that, but UNLESS you write a book trashing Trump, I suspect everyone currently working for him will be blackballed by every liberal in every possible way. They’ll never work in this town again. Literally. They will see to it.

    Imagine Dana – what if I offered you $10 million to write a nasty book about Patterico – all the inside dirt. On top of that I told you that unless you give me the dirt, I will make sure you have no career at all going forward. Would you be even slightly inclined to take the offer, perhaps exaggerate here and there? It’s easy to say no when your life isn’t on the line. But think about the situation.

    Not to say there are not plenty of bad things to say about Trump, but please, put it all into perspective.

    George Orwell's Ghost (ba96d1)

  111. Well Paul o’neil (susskind) mclellan, richard clarke, were among the most notable then.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  112. If you want to know why people regard the MSM as an “Enemy of the People” I suggest you look at ABC/NBC/CBS Bloomberg and WaPo current coverage of Trump/Pence’s Speech on the 2019 NDAA Signing.

    You would imagine an adult media, interested in the public affairs, would discuss the bill, what’s in it, and being “objective” report on Trump’s praise of the bill.

    Instead, we the headline/focus is on the fact that “Trump didn’t mention McCain’s Name” and that lets them fill up time rehashing the Trump-McCain feud.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  113. Evidently, to the MSM.

    National Defense Bill that spends $700 Billions and sets US Defense Priorities = Not Important
    Mentioning McCain’s Name = Very Important.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  114. I’m surprised the Osamosa Firing bumped the even more important 20 person DC White Power Rally story off the front page.

    And I see David French has attacked the “Alt Right” for the 1000th time. You get the feeling that “conservative” David French would prefer Antifa to Donald Trump.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  115. To know ‘Archie Bunker’ is to know Donald Trump; he was from Queens, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  116. hf

    her hijab was askew, so maybe he thought she had it coming

    steveg (a9dcab)

  117. Of course inflation will pace wage increases, but inflation is measured across an index of items that perhaps you can choose not to buy. Also the executive has been on record wondering aloud as to whether or not the Fed is working with the wage earner or against them.
    I guess we could go back to Obama’s “new normal” which was some brand of near stagnation.

    Hey. There’s a new Democrat slogan for us “Make America Stagnant Again” MASA! and send everyone a scratch and sniff of my great aunts diaper.
    MASA! it even has an ersatz Hispanic feel to it. The slogan, not the diaper

    steveg (a9dcab)

  118. Right qe infinity that inflated the price of food and fuel, didn’t make an impact. Now as to interest rates…

    Narciso (d1f714)

  119. We shoulda stayed on the gold standard. It was Nixon who took us off of it so his friend, Bebe Rebozo, could get rich in currency speculation. How come you missed that, DCSCA?

    nk (dbc370)

  120. Yes, it is more a case of devaluation than inflation.

    nk (dbc370)

  121. what anti-american trash like keith ellison don’t understand is that women are america’s most precious resource

    after children

    and oil

    we never used to have to say these things out loud in america cause it was part of our shared culture

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  122. I always believe what an ex-girlfriend says about a guy.

    nk (dbc370)

  123. i was struck by how illiterate she and her children are

    was keith not letting them attend school

    you have to wonder

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  124. What Trumps’s ex-girlfriend (figuratively speaking) OhMyRosy says about Trump is what we already knew: He did not have a normal, red-blooded American boy adolescence and he has no clue how to relate with women other than writing them a check.

    nk (dbc370)

  125. these attacks what omarosa and the CNN Jake Tapper fake news are doing on President Trump

    they just bring people together to support him

    talk about a misfire oh my goodness

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  126. Is that a Pygmy Pony over by the dental floss bush?

    mg (0e12db)

  127. I think so, too. Americans are not as dumb as media bubble-dwellers think they are. Moreover, the ones that have an actual taste for this kind of stories would rather read hear about Kylie Jenner’s sister’s boyfriend’s ex-girlfriend.

    nk (dbc370)

  128. “e) Trump owns all of this. Yet another in a long line of poor choices (Scaramucci, Spicer, Cohen, Bannon and Lewandowski).”

    They weren’t ‘poor choices’, all of them accomplished quite a bit of useful work during their time, they were simply kept around as long as they were still useful and dropped when they weren’t. Scaramucci in particular seemed to have been brought in mainly to do a hit on other employees.

    Note that disloyalty killed some of their careers far faster than incompetence.

    Steppe Nomad (1231f6)

  129. Well bannon is of on other projects, Spicer whose memoir doesn’t show him to be that Delaware is working for his reelection Pac, lewandowski seems to be on board as Well, scararamucci does seem to miss the boat.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  130. I’m not sure how much of the Oval Office Trump really “owns”. Like a Byzantine emperor (hi, narciso), he might be mostly a ceremonial presence with the palace eunuchs, praetorians and janissaries, not to mention the harem, doing all the decision-making while intriguing to maintain and elevate their positions and eliminate rivals.

    nk (dbc370)

  131. @124. Meh. Lived it; when he moved off the g/s and w/p & exchange controls were put in place the Brits restricted dollar/sterling exchange to limit dollar flow into the UK. Vividly recall my late father’s anger as his salary was paid in dollars from NY and then exchanged for sterling and the restrictions literally cut off cash flow for about two months.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  132. #127
    Easy there.
    I had a ex who once threw a brick at me go to court on my behalf… smells like victory.
    After she was done talking about me, even I thought I was great again.

    #135
    Please identify some of the the palace eunuchs?
    hf has gone out of his way to identify the voluntary… the trannies and whatnot

    steveg (a9dcab)

  133. I don’t think Kelly is a eunuch… he does keep his large brass ones under glass in case of emergency

    steveg (a9dcab)

  134. I am not privy to that information. Thankfully!

    nk (dbc370)

  135. Maybe it’ll come out during discovery… or not I guess

    steveg (a9dcab)

  136. This is one of most likely eunuchs.

    urbanleftbehind (a72a54)

  137. The logic is interesting, was there a huge influx from eastern Europe after 1965, that bill is primarily about immigration from Latin america.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  138. Yes, that was my grandfather, too. And my wife’s. But it’s not 1903 anymore.

    nk (dbc370)

  139. Am I weird for simultaneously highly approving of Bannon and wanting to crush Miller’s skull?

    urbanleftbehind (a72a54)

  140. Letting go does become easier when you realize Hart-Cellar was the rapid same year admission that the Great Society combined with the Civil Rights legislation resulted in the disincentivation of labor and created a minimum baseline of consumer demand that could not and was not able to be served by native born.

    urbanleftbehind (a72a54)

  141. Miller is low IQ.

    nk (dbc370)

  142. Note: I re-read my post and realized I totally forgot to put in a point that I felt important. I said it in a comment, but didn’t see it in my original post, so I’ve added it:

    If the President of the United States believed it wise to give such a “wacky, not smart, and vicious lowlife” the kind of access he did because she said GREAT things about him, then cried and begged, (and according to her, she had more access to Trump than just about anyone else in the White House), then that tells us all we need to know about him.

    Dana (023079)

  143. Well perhaps the beginning of the dissapearance of 55 million persons had a little more to do with it.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  144. there’s no reason to believe she had any access at all

    she lies and lies

    she’s same same as CNN

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  145. Eating paper, just compare with the gorilla channel,

    Narciso (d1f714)

  146. It’s a,large enough cohort to make one wonder, now nk will bring up the steinem/von Hoffman argument.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  147. I don’t even know what the Steinem/von Hoffman argument is.

    nk (dbc370)

  148. They say it’s stops crime, you say it stops democrats

    Narciso (d1f714)

  149. shockingly, when we elect a president whose primary qualification seems to be a willingness, or perhaps an eagerness, to ignore *custom* and *tradition* without really bothering to understand why the custom and tradition is there and what purpose it serves, he surrounds himself with people who ignore custom and tradition without bothering to check and see if this custom and tradition was actually important.

    this is the inevitable outcome of what a lot of Trump’s supporters were saying they wanted.

    we should not be surprised. we shouldn’t even be disappointed. the country got what it asked for. that’s how democracy is supposed to work, isn’t it?

    aphrael (3f0569)

  150. shockingly, when we elect a president whose primary qualification seems to be a willingness, or perhaps an eagerness, to ignore *custom* and *tradition* without really bothering to understand why the custom and tradition is there and what purpose it serves, he surrounds himself with people who ignore custom and tradition without bothering to check and see if this custom and tradition was actually important.

    this is the inevitable outcome of what a lot of Trump’s supporters were saying they wanted.

    we should not be surprised. we shouldn’t even be disappointed. the country got what it asked for. that’s how democracy is supposed to work, isn’t it?

    aphrael (3f0569) — 8/13/2018 @ 9:52 pm

    You’re talking about Obama, right?

    NJRob (b00189)

  151. Well-said, aphrael.

    that’s how democracy is supposed to work, isn’t it?

    Pretty much.

    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”
    – H.L. Mencken

    Dave (445e97)

  152. @162. Meh. Juan and Omarosa best remember, this fella’s from Queens, too:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GYgUa9gB8s

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  153. And hes the African American shepherd Smith, youwsa.

    narciso (d1f714)

  154. Maybe I’m missing something (they did something to my brain, you know) but in this thing the only two counts against Trump that I see are:
    1) He brought a scum-bucket into the White House; and
    2) He brought attention to her nuffin-burger book by tweeting about it;
    and I’ll excuse him that second one because of the accusation, which is not in the book*, that he used the n-word on a tape OhMyRosy says she heard.
    *Bet you a dollar an editor nixed it because Mini-gal can’t prove it.

    nk (dbc370)

  155. Do you have proof of down low activity on the part of Mr. Williams, otherwise the comp is only partially correct.

    urbanleftbehind (a72a54)

  156. The more important takeaway is that Williams kid is like Susan Rice’s kid – prominent walkaways.

    urbanleftbehind (a72a54)

  157. Well silly white correspondent for a 1000, alex,

    narciso (d1f714)

  158. Now editorial standards are worse than the mail:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jason_howerton/status/1029221808136966144?p=v

    narciso (d1f714)

  159. You missed a ranch at UK Parliament earlier today, but I suppose its like gunshot wounded in Chicago, a day ending in -day.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  160. Just the part of living in a cosmopolitan city. So says mayor mccheeses

    narciso (d1f714)

  161. On the day of your state’s primary, Scotty – take a bow:
    http://www.yahoo.com/finance/video/illegal-canadian-border-crossing-142-151521749.html

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  162. Mexican Radio to Beam Chinese Propaganda

    https://freebeacon.com/national-security/mexican-radio-beam-chinese-propaganda/

    I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
    And the touch of a New World Order
    Turn the switch and check the number
    Leave it on when in bed I slumber
    I hear the cadence of teh talking
    Chinese shoes ain’t made for walking
    I hear the squawking of the dj
    Can’t understand just what does he say?
    They’re on teh mexican radio
    They’re on teh mexican whoa-oh radio
    I dial it in and tune the station
    They talk about the u.s. inflation
    I understand just a little
    No comprende–it’s a riddle
    They’re on teh mexican radio
    They’re on teh mexican whoa-oh radio
    Never got that damn feng-shui
    Won’t eat no barbequed Shar-Pei
    I’d take requests on the telephone
    I’m on a wavelength far from home
    I feel teh touch of a New World Order
    I dial it in from south of the border
    I hear teh squawking of the dj
    Can’t understand just what does he say?
    Radio radio…

    https://youtu.be/eyCEexG9xjw

    Colonel Haiku (9298f8)

  163. I think the station is beaming is beaming in from ceti alpha 6, coronello.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  164. That radio transmission is gonna make this type of training a little easier or a lot harder (and if they got a mouth full of metal fillings, fuggedaboutit!):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zgTVBtA-iI

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  165. The President just tweeted again. Calling Omarosa a “dog”.

    And his sycophants just keep nodding.

    noel (96c84f)

  166. No dogs are loyal and trustworthy, think scorpion.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  167. I see narciso has linked into the article claiming that the whole Trump tower meeting was a dirty frame up. Frankly, this genre of Trump Denial Syndrome* stems from the intensive gaslighting from Trump supporters that nobody has any reason to be suspicious of Trump’s behavior with respect to Putin. It’s all a nice try, but Trump Jr still took the meeting, and Trump Jr and Trump Sr would have been happy to use the dirt, if it had been given to him.

    *Trump Denial Syndrome — (i) the failure to notice Trump’s offenses against decency, societal norms, and the law; (ii) the failure to notice that the consequences of a Trump action could be very bad; (iii) the failure to understand that people can oppose Trump in good faith, or people might have legitimate reasons to be appalled, disgusted, alarmed, saddened by Trump and his administration.

    Appalled (96665e)

  168. Like arming Mexican cartels, supplying the same Libyan rebels that murdered ambassador stevens, crushed political activists with the force of law.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  169. Presidential controversy 2016:

    Did he weaponize IRS against law-abiding citizens for political reasons?
    Did he give billions in cash to terrorist-sponsoring mullahs?
    Will his former Secretary of State (and presumed successor) be held accountable for defying the law?
    Will his signature legislation, passed based on a mountain of lies, be overturned?
    __ _
    Presidential controversy 2018:

    Did he use a word?
    __ _

    Aside to the President: if you don’t like Omarosa being considered ‘legitimate’, you shouldn’t have hired her.

    harkin (096d35)

  170. This was the way every race except 2000, was cleared of opposition, going up against uncle ruckus Bobby rush, exploiting the Sanford tragedy to insure ethnic solidarity.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  171. No thought like that ever occurs to then, Harkin, even the borg wasn’t always that monolithic.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  172. Even The Portnoy Times is calling it a dumpster fire.

    nk (dbc370)

  173. Blazing an aromatic trail that Tom Arnold started that won’t go well.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  174. Re the post 185, would Omarosa pass the Ray Charles forearm test? According to most conservative pundits, he would have recoiled in horror if Michelle Obama gave the atm for testing.

    urbanleftbehind (a72a54)

  175. Was this Sarah jeongs debut, it’s right up their when Maureen Dowd deemed kitty Kelleys scribblings of note.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  176. The question I have is whether Trump’s general knowledge of geography is closer to Homer or Hank.

    Paul Montagu (b566df)

  177. “The question I have is whether Trump’s general knowledge of geography is closer to Homer or Hank.

    Or Obama’s. He thought Hawaii was in Asia and that Austrians spoke Austrian.

    harkin (096d35)

  178. Well Obama thought Iran was a small country, well only 60 million so like the size of germany.

    Narciso (70c141)

  179. I see narciso has linked into the article claiming that the whole Trump tower meeting was a dirty frame up. Frankly, this genre of Trump Denial Syndrome* stems from the intensive gaslighting from Trump supporters that nobody has any reason to be suspicious of Trump’s behavior with respect to Putin. It’s all a nice try, but Trump Jr still took the meeting, and Trump Jr and Trump Sr would have been happy to use the dirt, if it had been given to him.

    *Trump Denial Syndrome — (i) the failure to notice Trump’s offenses against decency, societal norms, and the law; (ii) the failure to notice that the consequences of a Trump action could be very bad; (iii) the failure to understand that people can oppose Trump in good faith, or people might have legitimate reasons to be appalled, disgusted, alarmed, saddened by Trump and his administration.

    Appalled (96665e) — 8/14/2018 @ 7:01 am

    Obama and Jack Ryan’s divorce records says hello.

    The media digging through Governor Palin’s garbage and hacking her email, then asking the “public” for help to dig through it.

    Clinton using a UK cutout to get the fabulous Russian pee dossier. Using the Ukraine for evidence against Trump.

    And on and on.

    NJRob (b00189)

  180. Teh b*tches set them up.

    Colonel Haiku (9298f8)

  181. It’s all in what they are continually allowed to get away with. NeverTrump remains palled.

    Colonel Haiku (9298f8)

  182. They want the raging literal dumpster fire that is California nationwide coronello.

    Narciso (d1f714)

  183. The President just tweeted again. Calling Omarosa a “dog”.
    And his sycophants just keep nodding.
    noel (96c84f) — 8/14/2018 @ 6:49 am

    Sheesh. We don’t like, it, we just don’t care all that much. I care about Neil Gorsuch, and Kavanaugh. I care about immigration. I care about taxes. I care about the crappy climate change deal. I care about unemployment and economic growth. I care about work force participation rates. I care about opening ANWR, about the keystone pipeline, about energy independence. And on and ON.

    Trump Denial Syndrome? How about your case of Trump Avoidance Syndrome? That is clinging to the most trivial nothings to avoid admitting they were wrong.

    What is happening in the brains of nevertrumpers is fairly simple to explain, and psychologically not uncommon. Admitting you are wrong causes your subconscious to instantly register a drop in status. Since status is a major driver of our behavior, we will go to extreme measures to protect or increase it. Status is a primary reward or, in this case, the drop in status is a threat. This perceived drop in status activates the same brain regions as physical pain. So of course we want to avoid that feeling.

    Ever notice that Nevertrumpers are almost universally high status individuals? Leaders of Conservative inc., highly educated? Ever wonder why? Status. They are much more conscious of it.

    Trump is not perfect, and I see almost nobody saying he is. But on his worst day he beats the hell out of any possible alternative we could have had. And hey, I didn’t vote for him. Not in the primaries or the general election. Didn’t donate a dime to him. Still don’t like him personally. Wish he’d stay off twitter. But I’m able to overcome my perceived status drop and change my mind, and admit perhaps he is exactly what we needed right now.

    George Orwell's Ghost (ba96d1)

  184. George Orwell’s Ghost says, “What is happening in the brains of nevertrumpers is fairly simple to explain, and psychologically not uncommon. Admitting you are wrong causes your subconscious to instantly register a drop in status.”

    So says the Trump supporter. Trump? The one politician to NEVER apologize or admit he is wrong despite a plethora of opportunities to do so. Sure. Thanks for the lesson.

    noel (96c84f)

  185. President Trump owns the night like the fourth of July Mr. noel

    Cause baby he’s a firework

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  186. I have my own theory. Trump lies on an almost daily basis because he has never had to pay a price for it. He never apologizes because failing to do so costs him nothing either. Why? Previously, he was a celebrity. Now, since he is on your side, you’ll gladly overlook all of those lies and misdeeds. No price to pay.

    Lies and misdeeds mean nothing to you as long as you get your way? Is that what this is? Let me guess. It was different when a Democrat was in the White House, wasn’t it? Lies mattered then.

    noel (96c84f)

  187. 199. noel (96c84f) — 8/14/2018 @ 1:36 pm

    I have my own theory. Trump lies on an almost daily basis because he has never had to pay a price for it. He never apologizes

    What he does do, sometimes, when he sees nobody believes him, or he gets too many questions, is switch his story to the truth, like he did about why he fired Comey, without acknowledging what he said before or trying to explain it away.

    Or like he did – a few days after his first statement and not just recently, about why Don Jr agreed to the meeting with the Russians in trump Tower in June 2016. He got criticized like he had just reversed himself.

    I think the media are trying to deter Donald Trump from telling the truth.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  188. “So says the Trump supporter. Trump? The one politician to NEVER apologize or admit he is wrong despite a plethora of opportunities to do so. Sure. Thanks for the lesson.
    noel (96c84f) — 8/14/2018 @ 1:23 pm”

    You’re welcome.

    I said I didn’t vote for Trump, or support him. Didn’t donate a dime to him. Don’t like him personally. I might not support him when he runs for re-election – I haven’t decided yet. In your mind that makes me a rabid Trump supporter who can’t change his mind. Hard to argue with that astute assessment. You next move is to call me a liar sans any evidence whatsoever – it is the only move left for an irrational Trump hater. It is always their final move.

    And Trump? Sure – he never apologizes. So? He craves status just as much as you do. Two peas in a pod. Noel – take my advice – the status you desire is a shriveled and pathetic thing…it really isn’t worth the effort to obtain.

    George Orwell's Ghost (ba96d1)

  189. My theory on Trump lying – he does it and often. But his lies are of the used car salesman variety – he is shucking and jiving and feeding you a line, and when that doesn’t work he goes for the next line. It is a salesman patter, a real estate developer, a casino owner. He creates his own reality to make people do what he wants.

    It is unpleasant, but effective. He does it because it works, it has always worked. He baffles with his bullshit. He distracts the mark while he picks your pocket.

    And this is why the media and democrats hate him so much – they are the ones that are supposed to decide what reality IS, what is important, what we all need to care about. They are the one’s who are supposed to manipulate us, not this huckster from Queens. he is stealing their thunder, their status. he is out manipulating the manipulators.

    And I suspect that is exactly why he does it.

    George Orwell's Ghost (ba96d1)

  190. This thread is surreal.

    That is clinging to the most trivial nothings to avoid admitting they were wrong.

    The President of the United States uses racial slurs*, and his racist supporters think that’s a trivial nothing, and somehow this whole thing is about how Trump’s critics can’t admit they were wrong? That’s quite an interesting plot twist. Every awful thing Trump does is really just about how his dumb critics are too weak to admit they were wrong about how great Trump is!

    BTW don’t you dare accuse the person offering this Dear Leader level of nutjob praise of being a Trump supporter. No no no, he’s just a moderate, maybe called Moby, kinda like Cruz Supporter wasn’t really a Trump Supporter because hey, says Cruz right there in the name hahaha.

    * yes he did

    Dustin (ba94b2)


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