Republican Congressman Resigns
[guest post by Dana]
Republican Trent Franks announced his resignation, effective Jan. 31. Here is a portion of his statement:
Given the nature of numerous allegations and reports across America in recent weeks, I want to first make one thing completely clear. I have absolutely never physically intimidated, coerced, or had, or attempted to have, any sexual contact with any member of my congressional staff.
…
My wife and I have long struggled with infertility. We experienced three miscarriages.
We pursued adoption on more than one occasion only to have the adoptive mothers in each case change their mind prior to giving birth.
A wonderful and loving lady, to whom we will be forever grateful, acted as a gestational surrogate for our twins and was able to carry them successfully to live birth. The process by which they were conceived was a pro-life approach that did not discard or throw away any embryos.
My son and daughter are unspeakable gifts of God that have brought us our greatest earthly happiness in the 37 years we have been married.
When our twins were approximately 3 years old, we made a second attempt with a second surrogate who was also not genetically related to the child. Sadly, that pregnancy also resulted in miscarriage.
We continued to have a desire to have at least one additional sibling, for which our children had made repeated requests.
Due to my familiarity and experience with the process of surrogacy, I clearly became insensitive as to how the discussion of such an intensely personal topic might affect others.
I have recently learned that the Ethics Committee is reviewing an inquiry regarding my discussion of surrogacy with two previous female subordinates, making each feel uncomfortable. I deeply regret that my discussion of this option and process in the workplace caused distress.
We are in an unusual moment in history – there is collective focus on a very important problem of justice and sexual impropriety. It is so important that we get this right for everyone, especially for victims.
But in the midst of this current cultural and media climate, I am deeply convinced I would be unable to complete a fair House Ethics investigation before distorted and sensationalized versions of this story would put me, my family, my staff, and my noble colleagues in the House of Representatives through hyperbolized public excoriation. Rather than allow a sensationalized trial by media damage those things I love most, this morning I notified House leadership that I will be leaving Congress as of January 31st, 2018. It is with the greatest sadness, that for the sake of the causes I deeply love, I must now step back from the battle I have spent over three decades fighting. I hope my resignation will remain distinct from the great gains we have made. My time in Congress serving my constituents, America and the Constitution is and will remain one of God’s greatest gift to me in life.
Apparently, Franks had been the subject of rumors for a number of years:
One Arizona Republican said there had been rumors of inappropriate behavior. The Republican said the congressman had apparently been making plans to run for Senate in 2012, but abruptly canceled those plans.
“There’s been rumors swirling around him for years, at least in 2012,” the Republican said. “And if this turns out to be true, there won’t be that many people who are surprised.”
Given the very personal nature of the statement, my thoughts are with Mrs. Franks and their Franks’ adult children. This can’t be easy for them.
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)
–Dana
This is just really odd. What did he say to the staffers?
Dana (023079) — 12/7/2017 @ 5:35 pmOi. That’s sad. Without knowing exactly what he said that made his subordinates uncomfortable, it’s hard to judge, and it doesn’t immediately seem to me that, absent the circus, this should require resignation.
aphrael (bec9a5) — 12/7/2017 @ 5:37 pmMany more pervs will be exposed as the 2018 elections near.
mg (60b0f7) — 12/7/2017 @ 5:40 pmI am inclined to agree, aphrael, but without knowing what he said, it’s hard to judge. His statements sounds very heartfelt to me, but then again, why on earth would a lawmaker remotely consider discussing his infertility issues with staffers? How could he not know that would cross a line, as well as make them feel uncomfortable? Either he is absolutely tone-deaf and without any filters, or there was a closeness to the relationships that signaled it would be okay to discuss something so personal. Perhaps even with the blessing of Mrs. Franks?
I really have no idea, but again, it’s just most peculiar.
Dana (023079) — 12/7/2017 @ 5:42 pmIt makes no sense unless the proposed surrogacy didn’t involve the services of a doctor.
crazy (d99a88) — 12/7/2017 @ 5:43 pmhe’s obviously a huge pervert, almost on the level of a Mitt Romney or a Paula Poundstone
i hope he gets the help he needs
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/7/2017 @ 5:58 pmWeird. But if he won’t fight for his honor, who am I to?
nk (dbc370) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:06 pmWeird story all the way around. I feel sorry for married couples who so desperately want to have children but are unable to.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:19 pmone must control ones urges and if one cannot then one must resign
this is how it’s done in this the year of our lord the pussyhat 2017
happyfeet (28a91b) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:26 pmYeah I’m suspicious since he went after Tom Perez (d thalosian) tried to silence free speech back in 2012.
narciso (4346c7) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:30 pmI suspect Franks is meant as a token sacrifice so the GOP can claim to be policing itself. Question is, why him and not Farenholt.
kishnevi (8f5d8c) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:33 pmI agree, kishnevi. However, when you read Franks’ statement, and assuming it’s true, and then read about Farenholt, why Franks indeed?
Dana (023079) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:37 pmHypothetically farenholt is part of the club and Frank’s is not, he asks inconvenient questions.
narciso (4346c7) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:52 pmI guess some people don’t want to hear about sperm motility.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 12/7/2017 @ 6:55 pmHey look, Heavy.com has an article up about the five things you need to know about Wendy Davis’ Foley catheter.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 12/7/2017 @ 7:10 pmSpeaking of Farenhold:
Dana (023079) — 12/7/2017 @ 7:23 pmAlthough it sort of “shocks the conscience” to use taxpayer money to pay off settlements, this is pretty much how it works in the private sector. If you harass someone, your employer is liable for damages. And your employer has a lot more money than you, an employee, so they make far more attractive legal targets.
Same in education – a university that fails to protect a student or staff member from harassment has a much larger bank account to tap into than the perpetrator. Settlements paid over one student’s sexual harassment of another at a public university are essentially “taxpayer money” too.
I suspect each congressman and senator doesn’t have their own HR department in Washington, so staff members are employees of the government, not the individual legislator. And thus the government (whose pockets are infinitely deep) would be the harassment litigation target of choice.
Dave (445e97) — 12/7/2017 @ 7:47 pmThe difference between a private and a public payout capisce
narciso (4346c7) — 12/7/2017 @ 8:03 pmThis is just really odd. What did he say to the staffers?
Perhaps something that made them think he was asking them to be a surrogate for him and his wife. Which would be obviously improper.
James B. Shearer (951d11) — 12/7/2017 @ 8:57 pmI get the feeling there is a lot more to this that we aren’t being told. Franks is following the adage that when they are drumming you out of town, run to the front of the pack and make it look like a parade. He’s resigning in advance of something far more devastating coming to light.
Chuck Bartowski (211c17) — 12/7/2017 @ 9:11 pmMuch to Trump’s consternation, it looks like the swamp is being drained after all.
Tillman (a95660) — 12/7/2017 @ 9:28 pmIt’s not ‘crazy’ or ‘weird’ — it’s ‘spin;’ he got out of its way before he was run over by it.
The operative lines of this appear to be his admission of saying ‘something’ that went over the line to make two different staffers uncomfortable enough about talk of the ‘option and process’ and who were distressed enough by it to tip off the Ethic Committee which was looking into it. He put his own period to the end of his sentence and bailed.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/7/2017 @ 10:02 pmMuch to Trump’s consternation
Trump called you and told you that he was much consternated?
nk (dbc370) — 12/7/2017 @ 10:05 pmTrent “the weenie” franks is a pervert who defended the child molester congressman and nambla member foley of floriduh! he has been a slimeball who when caught with pictures of children said they were for his campaign signs. he has defended local perverts in arizona because a child molester protector and speaker of the az house was his “friend!”
frank no more (957fd4) — 12/8/2017 @ 12:54 amMaybe Franks offered to make a “Direct Deposit”, so to speak.
Ipso Fatso (7e1c8e) — 12/8/2017 @ 6:36 am23. You’re a special kind of idiot, aren’t you nk? Right, Tramp’s just eating this up. (I accidentally mis-spelled his name typing it, but it fits! So I left it that way.)
Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 6:51 amThat’s the complaint before the Ethics Committee. That he asked two staffers if they would be surrogates. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-trent-franks-of-arizona-is-expected-to-resign/2017/12/07/479d156a-db9f-11e7-b859-fb0995360725_story.html?utm_term=.ef7a75af6655
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 6:52 amUp yours, Tillman. It’s your modus operandi to throw out bullsh!t like it’s fact, and it’s not all that important when you do it but it’s a common trick with leftie journolists (that’s not a misspelling) too. Expect to be called out on it.
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 6:57 amYou’re not a “special kind of idiot” are you, nk? You’re just a regular idiot with the rest of us who dare to disagree with comrade Tillman. You always know when you’re winning an argument with a radical insane leftist, they start with the name calling. I think comrade Tillman has allowed Trump to nest in his head. Take a deep breath, nk was joking. Lighten up.
Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7) — 12/8/2017 @ 6:57 amBut from that same WaPo link:
What are “sexually charged comments designed to gauge whether she was interested in a sexual relationship”?
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:03 amI was not joking, Hoagie. It’s a common trick of the Left to editorialize with subordinate clauses masquerading as fact. It’s not the first time Tillman has done it.
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:07 amTillie lies? What next… ConDave is a lefty d-bagger?
Colonel Haiku (7f045b) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:10 amWhy would Trump be consternated with Conyers, Franken, and Franks bowing out? Conyers and Franken are Democrats; and Franks is in the Freedom Caucus which has opposed Trump at almost every turn — a prime candidate for Bannon to primary.
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:10 am30… “hey, honey! Ya… ya wanna do teh wild thing?”
Colonel Haiku (7f045b) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:11 amJuche dave i’ d never have guessed.
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:20 am23. You’re a special kind of idiot, aren’t you nk? Right, Tramp’s just eating this up. (I accidentally mis-spelled his name typing it, but it fits! So I left it that way.)
Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 6:51 am
Fielding typos is their speciality
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:27 amI was not joking, Hoagie. It’s a common trick of the Left to editorialize with subordinate clauses masquerading as fact. It’s not the first time Tillman has done it.
WOOT!
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:29 amnk, there are a other Republicans in line to resign – do you pretend not to know that or are you just stupid?
Recently, Tramp’s been lying and denying it was him on the p-grabber tape. Why? I’ll spell it out for you: he’s feeling the heat. This is getting to him or he would not feel the need to do anything about it, comprendo?
You’re the liar and you’re projecting, just like Tramp does.
Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:29 amnk, there are a other Republicans in line to resign – do you pretend not to know that or are you just stupid?
Name them.
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:30 amFarenthold looks like the carjacking victim in the Seinfeld finale. He probably was just happy to be in the company of a matching set of blonde, given he wrested that district from an RGV Tejano,especially a southerner.
urbanleftbehind (c54a05) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:30 amhttps://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a29fdece4b073789f689db9
Some reject the AntiChrist.
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:31 amThe GOP would rather elect a sexual predator who preys on teenagers than a prosecutor who happens to be a Democrat. That’s it, I’m switching parties.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/12/08/roy-moore-last-straw-you-can-now-call-me-democrat-kurt-bardella-column/930454001/
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:33 amTeh Left minces like it wants teh hose…
Colonel Haiku (7f045b) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:33 amnk, there is thing called the news. You can get the news on your internet. Use it. I’m not here to do your errands.
Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:34 am26. Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 6:51 am
Where is it misspelled?
Sammy Finkelman (e70ce9) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:37 amLike I said ….
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:37 amIssa’s little weasel? Shirley.
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:38 am@45 LOL Sammy. Look again.
Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:39 amnk, there is thing called the news. You can get the news on your internet. Use it. I’m not here to do your errands.
Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:34 am
Uh. They might read a discouraging word…stick to Huge Nitwit and InHannity.
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:42 amnk, Your ignorance proves nothing. I thought that you were an attorney. If you are, you’re an incompetent one if you don’t even know that.
Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:42 am38. Tillman (a95660) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:29 am
Oh, here. But that was after you left the first message.
No, that’s not the reason, and he didn’t say that only recently if you read the New York Times story carefully. It just was reported recently. There seems to be a real attempt to confuse people about the difference between what they just heard, and what happened recently. Even when what they heard recently concerned what might have happened 40 years ago. And the Access Hollywood tape was 11 years old when it became public. Billy Bush was treated as if it happened the day before.
The reason why Trump, from time to time, denies or expresses doubt about the tape is that what he said about the tape is that he was lying then, and he doesn’t want to say that he ever tells lies.
He said it was “locker room talk” but if confronted with the claim that that means that he lied, he looks for a way out.
Rush Limbaugh claimed that Trump was toying with people, but it is not that.
Sammy Finkelman (e70ce9) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:46 amMY mag
There is actually something congruent, if not incriminating, about a man like Franks, an anti-abortion zealot who once argued that rape didn’t very frequently cause pregnancies (suggesting that pregnant rape victims are lying, of course), acting like one of the lordly theocratic impregnators depicted in The Handmaid’s Tale. Whatever he did, the self-justifying nature of his half-apology does not wear well on someone who is supposedly so godly:
[I]n the midst of this current cultural and media climate, I am deeply convinced I would be unable to complete a fair House Ethics investigation before distorted and sensationalized versions of this story would put me, my family, my staff, and my noble colleagues in the House of Representatives through hyperbolized public excoriation. Rather than allow a sensationalized trial by media damage those things I love most, this morning I notified House leadership that I will be leaving Congress as of January 31st, 2018
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:46 amFranks disgraced himself during the election by defending Trump and his boasts of sexual assault.
He was also involved in Trump’s efforts to get rid of Jeff Flake, the third-most conservative member of the senate, with a 96% lifetime rating from the Club for Growth.
Not that Trump really has any conception of gratitude, of course.
Dave (445e97) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:46 amFacts, Tillman! Give us facts, not wishful thinking phrased as facts.
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:48 amHow many turd-eating perverts are in DC?
The biggest turds hide behind Jesus.
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:48 amHey Sammy..see my typo?
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:49 amSee? There. Dave gives his opinion, but he backs it up with facts, and it is clear which is fact and which is opinion. That’s how you do it, Tillman.
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:51 amEleven years ago, when lauer was in the midst of his rampage through the secretarial pool, Weinstein was being celebrated for his complexity and spacey for being a sociOpath that tape didn’t matter.
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:52 amTillie Meltdown Friday!
Colonel Haiku (7f045b) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:56 amExcept flake was an apologist for the Castro regime, not merely antiembargo, connected to a Namibian uranium mine tied to Iran, a full proponent of amnesty
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:57 am59
Where’s your documentation?
Wait! You get the Disney Pass for free from nk…nevermind.
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:58 amDespots flock together
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/08/trump-fake-news-despots-287129
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:01 amPerhaps the most recent exame
https://babalublog.com/2017/10/11/marco-rubio-headlines-fundraiser-for-castros-hardest-working-champion-on-capitol-hill-jeff-flake/
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:02 amYou grok puffington?
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1625771
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:04 amFwiw:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/so-what-does-jeff-flake-do-after-his-senate-term-ends-heres-five-guesses-9811326
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:07 amWeird question – what is the whole number of Southern Democrats that switched parties during the Southern Strategy period (roughly 1964 to 2004). It seems to me that the progressive quest for purity is costing them a lot of party converts. How much of Flake bloc is loyal to the man not the party?
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:08 amAvarice is close to Godliness..
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/opinion/republicans-children-health-chip.html?referer=
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:10 am65, is that PNT’s reporter an inverted Shakira or Salma?…great potential there, Steve57 will be up in that soon.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:11 amEven I can’t believe he is that delusional. Trump lies constantly, with utter contempt for the truth. The sheer volume of untruth makes it clear that he couldn’t care less about it.
OTOH, faced with the imminent possibility of watching his campaign collapse in humiliation, Trump actually admitted he was wrong about something and apologized for it – a truly singular event.
Remember, this is a “Christian” who believes (and says) that he has never, in his life, done anything that he needed to ask God’s forgiveness for. The only flaw he admits is being too generous, kind and trusting.
He can’t very well deny the apology, but by pretending (in the face of all evidence to the contrary) that the tape itself was somehow not genuine or real, he renders the apology moot and inoperative.
In short, he’s trying to erase a fact from the past that he wishes wasn’t there, just like Orwell’s Ministry of Truth.
Dave (445e97) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:13 amHe could be pathologic and not know he’s living an alternate reality. That’s the danger.
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:15 amTrump colluded w/Israel
https://theintercept.com/2017/12/05/michael-flynn-jared-kushner-israel-settlements-trump/
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:37 amhttps://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/it-was-kushner-who-told-flynn-to-make-calls-about-israel-un?utm_term=.tkdPPGkvl#.ddlGGZyAv
Tic toc tic toc..BOOM
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:39 amIf he’s that medically screwed up, change tack and convince him not to run or to run as f-u move and resign at some time right after the February 2021 Super Bowl. The argument is that Reagan foisted amnesty while in that delicate state, so it might appeal to his ego to do something better than Reagan.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:42 am71/72 then perhaps the hard cider version of the Bannon coalition win by default with no need for kosher deference.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:43 amHey I just picked the most recent links. So Israel is the enemy now?
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:44 amIsrael..
not your friend
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:48 am56. Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 7:49 am
Yes, I noticed that.
@52, you typed MY mag
I assumed that was most likely supposed to be NY mag (New York Magazine) even though you didn’t give the URL. (I looked for one)
According to the kind of thinking you, or NY Mag, are probably referring to, it is not that real victims lie, or that women who are pregnant and claim rape are usually lying about the rape – it is that there’d be a miscarriage in that case, although that wouldn’t apply to statutory rape but only what was legitimately called rape, and pregnant rape victims who carry births to term are just about something that doesn’t exist, so this is a nonexistent problem, and there was no reason for a rape exception in an anti-abortion law.
This idea was not something invented out of whole cloth by anti-abortion zealots. Hormones or something were supposed to do this. While this maybe happens, it doesn’t happen universally. It is true that emotions can cause miscarriages.
Sammy Finkelman (63d78b) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:49 amInteresting: Moore’s accuser Beverly Nelson admits in interview on GMA to writing the inscription under Moore’s signature in her yearbook. The clip of the interview can be found at
http://abcnews.go.com/Video
I think she previously stated, or at least implied, that it was Moore’s signature AND notes. I could be wrong but don’t have the time to research. Also, according to Breitbart, Allred, her attorney, still refuses to allow a 3rd party to independently verify the handwriting.
Lenny (5ea732) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:50 amDean Rusk, U.S. Secretary of State at the time of the incident, wrote:
I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or some trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn’t believe them then, and I don’t believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous.[65]
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:52 amTHE USS Liberty was ordered attacked because a board keeping track of what was where was cleared, and the pilot(s) did not abort the operation because Egyptian units were known by everyone to sometimes use American or other kinds of neutral flags or insignia to avoid being targets.
Sammy Finkelman (63d78b) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:52 amYes Sammy. That’s the Israeli story.
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:53 amJudge Roy Moore’s accuser, Beverly Nelson, now admits the obvious: she forged notes in her yearbook and signed Moore’s name.
ropelight (352cbe) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:53 amConsidering one of their ex? Employees sent those threats to synagogues I would say yes.
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:54 amAnother mistake
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:54 amTewwowists?
The attack led the British government to enact widely unpopular restrictions on the civil liberties of Jews in Palestine, which included a renewed use of random personal searches, random searches of homes, military curfews, road blocks, and mass arrests. The measures shifted British public opinion further against the Mandate system.[35] They also alienated the Jewish populace from their government, which had been Begin’s intention from the beginning.[21]
The Irgun and Lehi stepped up their campaign after the bombing, committing a series of attacks.[20] According to The Jerusalem Post, the bombing represented the end of the united front that had existed between the Irgun and other Zionist groups such as the Haganah. From then on, the groups maintained a more adversarial relationship.[16] Irgun ex-members and sympathizers have argued that modern historical accounts in Israel are biased against them and in favor of more established groups such as the Haganah.[36]
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:56 amIsrael did not, and still does not, want to use the explanation that most people in the Israeli military did not trust the Egyptians not to use American flags, or anything else that could give them immunity. Israel was notified, but the information that there was an American ship monitoring the conflict managed to get lost after some shift changes, and otherwise nobody would expect an American ship in the area. That the Egyptians were known to cheat in this way was, however, not considered a legal defense. You had to actually know it was an Egyptian ship.
Sammy Finkelman (63d78b) — 12/8/2017 @ 8:59 amYes that was 70 years ago,
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 9:00 amDid they mistake the Hotel for a goat herder, sammy.
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 9:01 am85. What’s this about – the bombing of the King David hotel? Menachem Begin, leader of the Irgun said a warning was telephoned, but it was ignored. Who said this was right?
If I am correct,it was because the Irgun moatly was managing the defense of Jerusalem (it wasn’t included in the Jewish state) – that the Israeli government limited the help it gave and East Jerusalem was lost to the Jordanians in the 1948 war.
Sammy Finkelman (63d78b) — 12/8/2017 @ 9:03 amZionism is not Judaism is it Sammy? Why enable tewwowists?
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 9:05 amWhereas arafat ordered the,deaths of Noel and moore, created black september funded by abbas
narciso (4346c7) — 12/8/2017 @ 9:15 amOff topic, but this is really troubling:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/muellers-right-hand-man-russia-probe-represented-clinton-aide-set-unsecure-server/
This is the same lawyer who took a hammer to the Clinton Blackberries.
Lenny (5ea732) — 12/8/2017 @ 10:05 am92… ConDave… pick up the courtesy white phone, ConDave… please pick up the courtesy white phone…
Colonel Haiku (7f045b) — 12/8/2017 @ 11:02 amThat only if you have ruddy piper shades coronello.
narciso (d1f714) — 12/8/2017 @ 11:06 amIn short, he’s trying to erase a fact from the past that he wishes wasn’t there, just like Orwell’s Ministry of Truth.
Or like the Democrats that they put up the Confederate statues they’re now pulling down?
nk (dbc370) — 12/8/2017 @ 11:07 amhttp://www.newsweek.com/mike-pences-pets-wont-stop-dying-741494
Exodus 34:7
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 12:03 pmMakes more sense now Just as some thought it wasn’t about petri dishes and turkey basters…
crazy (d99a88) — 12/8/2017 @ 1:28 pmUgh. OK, if *that* is what was going on, then I retract my initial comment.
aphrael (e0cdc9) — 12/8/2017 @ 2:31 pmI must say my wife sniffed this one out before this latest report.
I was telling her about it, and explaining his statement yesterday about years of infertility, twins via a surrogate, a desire to have another child, and that he approached staffers about the possibility of being surrogates.
Then I mentioned the odd insertion of language about having used a surrogacy method that is “Pro Life” — and my wife said “Ahh Haaa!! He wanted to impregnate the surrogate himself.”
Knowing a bit about this because of some family involvement, she knew that surrogacy pregnancies, which proceed via artificial insemination, usually involve the implanting of 3-4 fertilized eggs with the hope that at least one will imbed in the uterine wall, and the pregnancy will be successful. When 2 implant, you get twins. Using more than 3 or 4 eggs increases the possibility of triplets, which creates health risks for the surrogate.
So, Franks is a very strong Pro Life GOP member. It might have been that in the earlier surrogacy, if 3 or 4 eggs were used, and twins resulted, that means 1-2 fertilized eggs were lost. Franks is on record as saying “Life begins at fertilization.”
So the idea of doing that again was not acceptable.
So how do you avoid that?
By not using eggs fertizilized through AI — you fertilize that sucker yourself!!!!!
Resignation effective immediately.
shipwreckedcrew (56b591) — 12/8/2017 @ 4:01 pmNo, not like that at all. (Whataboutism quality rating: 1/5)
Nobody involved in tearing down the slave-republic idols today was responsible for putting them up originally.
Fixing someone else’s mistake (by undoing it, in this case) is not the same as pretending one of your mistakes never happened.
Dave (445e97) — 12/8/2017 @ 4:24 pm@99. NBC News reported this evening he offered a staffer $5 million to ‘surrogate’– but how to ;jump start; that process was not specified. That’s Marla and Melania territory though Ivana would likely have held out for more.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 12/8/2017 @ 4:27 pmHaving intercourse with a woman other than your wife is also a mortal sin, though, so I’m not sure I see the point.
Why spend $5M to avoid breaking one commandment just so you can turn around and break a different one?
Dave (445e97) — 12/8/2017 @ 4:29 pmThey hide their sins under a basket as though God can’t see..
Or they’re crazy as sh’thouse ratsm
Admiral Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 12/8/2017 @ 4:33 pm