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Trump Denies Democrat Congresswoman’s Account of Call to Widow

Filed under: Uncategorized — Patterico @ 7:45 am

I updated my previous post on this, but it probably deserves its own post. The background, from the #FAKENEWSJEFFBEZOSPOST, is here:

In his call with Sgt. La David T. Johnson’s widow, Myeshia Johnson, Trump told her, “He knew what was signing up for, but I guess it hurts anyway,” according to the account of Rep. Frederica S. Wilson (D-Fla.), who was riding in a limousine with Johnson when the president called and heard the conversation on speakerphone.

Wilson recalled in an interview with The Washington Post that Johnson broke down in tears. “He made her cry,” Wilson said. The congresswoman said she wanted to take the phone and “curse him out,” but that the Army sergeant holding the phone would not let her speak to the president.

The White House neither confirmed nor denied Wilson’s account. “The President’s conversations with the families of American heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice are private,” a White House official said in a statement.

Or are they? This morning, Trump has tweeted that the Democrat Congresswoman lied and that he has proof:

We’ll see. Somehow, I doubt we’re going to get the proof. Trump also implied he had a tape that would prove James Comey lied about what was said in a private meeting. I have yet to hear that tape.

In any event, I don’t think anybody wants to hear a tape of a conversation between Trump and the widow. I certainly don’t. It’s one of the darker moments of this lady’s life under any circumstances, no matter what was said, and no recording of it should be splashed across the news. If the Congresswoman, an apparent friend of the family, lied about the conversation, Trump could quietly provide the tape to journalists, who could get the accurate quote on the record. Tweeting that he has proof is not necessary — just like invoking the death of John Kelly’s son was not necessary.

I worry that this all ends up putting the widow in the crosshairs. Trump’s army of deplorables would not hesitate to send her death threats if she said something uncomplimentary about Dear Leader, you know.

There’s really no way this ends well. Which is usually the case when President Donald J. Trump is involved.

[Cross-posted at RedState.]


  1. Trump tried to express a thought to a widow in a phone call, a thought Gen. Kelly suggests came from him, and at worst, Trump bobbled expressing it. And this is a news story? As scummy as Trump is, he wasn’t trying to hurt her feelings nor disrespect the soldier.

    Sure, Trump is a clown but this is the state of our politics that someone saying something clumsily is “news” ? I really do think the widow’s congresswoman is pretty scummy in this.

    Comment by SPQR — 10/19/2017 @ 1:58 pm

  2. I don’t think Trump was trying to disrespect the soldier, but neither do I think he was expending much energy on respecting him, either.

    Comment by Patterico — 10/19/2017 @ 7:24 pm

  3. Clumsily phrasing a complex thought hardly shows that. It shows that Trump isn’t skilled at expressing complex ideas extemporaneously, especially in a very difficult context. Not exactly news.

    Comment by SPQR — 10/20/2017 @ 9:37 am

  4. It’s certainly not the first time a family or friend of the family reacted to the politics of a military death. What made this stay in the news was Trump tweeting about it and claiming it was fabricated, then Kelly trying to clean it up but messing up the facts, followed by more Trump tweeting.

    The White House looks incompetent.

    Comment by DRJ — 10/21/2017 @ 7:39 am

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