Trump: This Stupid President Should Have Issued a Better Travel Ban
Donald Trump took to Twitter this morning to complain about the U.S. President’s travel ban, which Trump said doesn’t go far enough.
The travel ban into the United States should be far larger, tougher and more specific-but stupidly, that would not be politically correct!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 15, 2017
If Trump feels this strongly about the matter, he should take his concerns to the President of the United States, who has the power to issue a larger, tougher, more specific ban.
I believe Trump has an unprecedented access to the man holding that office.
He can tell the President that the lower courts may be skeptical, but the Supreme Court has let the smaller, less tough, less specific ban remain in place for the most part. So why not do what you actually think is right? he should say.
In fact, Trump should march right into the Oval Office and say: Look here, Mr. President —
[This is the point at which Graham Chapman, dressed as a British army colonel, stands up and shouts: No, this is silly. The whole premise is silly and it’s very badly written!]
So let’s end the ironic tone, as I can’t really take it any further anyway.
Why is this guy acting like he’s not the President?
When you complain about something, but do nothing when you have the power to do so, some might conclude you don’t want to do it. For example: Republicans hilariously voted for ObamaCare repeal during Barack Obama’s presidency. But we now know that they never really wanted repeal. How do we know? Because they now have the power to pass that repeal, and they didn’t do it.
Trump has the power to issue a larger, tougher, more specific ban. (After all, the Supreme Court is backing his play on the existing one so far.) Yet he didn’t, for some reason. The logical conclusion is that he didn’t want to.
It’s laughable that he goes on Twitter to complain about his own inaction.
And this bit about political correctness — what is he even saying? Is he saying that he is sacrificing the country’s safety for the sake of political correctness? It’s kind of hard to read the tweet any other way.
After puzzling over this issue all morning for the last thirty seconds, I think I have figured out the problem. I think I know why Trump didn’t issue the more comprehensive travel ban that he says he himself should have issued. The reason is simple, if you think about it.
Chuck and Nancy didn’t go for it.
[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]
He’s demented.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:06 amIt’s not the same thing as “he suffers from dementia”.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:07 amI think he enjoys it.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:07 amhttp://www.theblaze.com/myvoice/politics/the-differences-between-trumps-first-and-second-travel-ban/
Oh.
Q! bert (fc15db) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:14 amAnother:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-compare-travel-ban/
Q! bert (fc15db) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:16 amI read this at Red State. It’s one of my favorites of all the posts you’ve written.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:17 amTwitter certainly makes it easy to mock Trump. Or maybe I should say that Trump makes it easy to mock Trump.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:21 amHe should ditch the twitter if only to let his opponents squirm whilst wondering whats next and how to fight it.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:25 amSpeaking of travel advisories…avoid St. Louis!
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:27 amhttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/15/st-louis-ex-officer-jason-stockley-acquitted-in-killing-black-man.html
One should always avoid St. Louis on general principles. The entire city is a ghetto like Detroit. You know, a Democrat utopia.
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/15/2017 @ 9:51 amPresident Trump so far done real good keeping them terrorisms from doing bucket bombs all up in it
London is where you go out to get some relatively fresh-looking produce for example a celery or an tasty aubergine
then they throw acid in your face
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:01 amThe first ban was Keystone Kops. Or Chinese fire-drill. (Not this kind. This kind.) Totally unprepared to properly implement it or defend it in court — just a lot of running around going nowhere. The second was basically surrender.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:04 amDetroit has more upside than several of these terminal blue cities. At least you can farm in those upriver rectangular vacant tracts as the French settlers intended, if you have some Afrikaaner mindset in you.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:07 amBecause he’s actually part of the #Resistance
JP (f1742c) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:10 amTrump will now say “I may be stupid, but at least I’m not an idiot”
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:15 am“Because he’s actually part of the #Resistance”
Bulloney. The shape shifter has no true image.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:16 amoops, forgot to link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4886010/How-Trump-called-attorney-general-idiot.html
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:16 amParty of Crazee/dumbness going way of Whigs.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:17 amTrump may be demented but that’s what it took to beat Hillary and hornswaggle low info voters. He’s your Pottery Barn shards.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:20 amAnother Broadway producer quits the show.
https://www.axios.com/pences-press-secretary-is-resigning-2485660634.html
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:21 amWell, that’s what happens when the boss adds another demographic to the “What if Pence Doesnt…” chorus.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:23 amHow is the passive Pence, emotional cauldron of passion?
He could be exactly what Woody had in mind when he said…
“95% of life is just showing up”
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:28 amPence is like Jerry Lewis to DeNiros Rupert Pupkin in King of Comedy.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:31 amFederalist chafed at the news.
“Last January, then-candidate Trump bragged that he could “shoot somebody” in the middle of 5th Avenue in New York City and not lose any voters. If President Trump welches on the wall, will his voters still back him up? Mary Katherine Ham isn’t so sure.
“But this is not what Trump voters signed up for,” she added. “And the question is: Can he shoot the wall in the middle of Fifth Avenue and get away with it? That remains unclear.”
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:33 amIf Trump feels this strongly about the matter, he should take his concerns to the President of the United States, who has the power to issue a larger, tougher, more specific ban.
He did, and the courts (so far) rejected it, so he tried again with a narrower one. And in fact it was argued by our host at the time that the President did not have the power to issue the first ban.
Frederick (64d4e1) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:36 amIt seems to me this is simply another outburst of blather from Trump. He sees a chance to complain about the MSM, political correctness, and the left in a way that will get approval from his base. He has to appear strong like an ape beating its chest to intimidate opponents and impress the females. He may care about the policy details, but this tweet is meaningless from that.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:45 amIn practice of course the President’s authority over immigration is constrained by the courts, and I think the obvious interpretation of Trump’s tweet is that the courts’ political correctness that in his eyes prevents him from the right sort of ban is the problem.
But, you know, liver entrails and all that.
Frederick (64d4e1) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:48 amAttorney General Lisa Madigan won’t seek re-election in 2018
what does this mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:52 amThe Supreme Court allowed Trump’s modified ban, twice. The lower and appellate courts enjoined Trump’s original and modified ban but the Supreme Court has not, so we don’t know what would have happened there.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:53 amYou’ve just set off a pseudo Monty Python scene. Roman haruspice steps out before the big battle and studies the bird flying off in the distance. His companion joins him They start arguing. Is it an African swallow or a European swallow? Is it carrying a coconut? How much does a swallow weigh? How much does a coconut weigh? Because an African swallow carrying a heavy coconut is good news, but a European swallow carrying a small coconut is bad news…..
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:54 amMe at 30 being a tangent from Frederick at 27, if it’s not clear, and it probably isn’t.
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:55 amPresident Trump signals a willingness to take far more responsibility for keeping terrorists out of America than food stamp ever did that’s for sure
Food Stamp and sleazy Justin Amash worked 24/7 to do as many terrorists all up in it as they could, and that was concerning as I’m sure you understand
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:57 amI think Ben burn is right, the Republican party is going the way of the Whigs. Founded as the party of anti-slavery and reared in the fire of civil war the party has run its course. Just as the Democrat Party has evolved into a neo-communist cult the Republican Party has to once again become the party of Freedom and America First. The democrats are selling out America (like that’s new) to South America, Africa and the Middle East to establish an eternal ruling party of non-Americans. The Republicans now have the opportunity to rebrand as the party of America.
The Republicans defeated the slave-owning Democrats in war, freed their slaves, fought Jim Crow, ended segregation and even confronted their paramilitary KKK. The fact that the Democrat Party still exists after it turned traitor to the U.S. Government is a testimony to the validity of “The Big Lie”.
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:02 amPer Lincoln, why would a shape shifter pick a face like Trump’s?
JP (f1742c) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:07 amHappy @ 28, you will have a RINO wave within the confines of Illinois, and maybe the beginnings of a needed correction on pensions et al. Rauner can continue to be the guy who really tried but couldnt, especially if his opposition is another rich guy (Kennedy or Pritzker). I could give a crap, I think the removal of Kim Foxx is equally, if not more important, buts another 3 years down the road.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:12 amPresident Trump’s re-election could bring out a ton of first-time R voters but yeah it’s unlikely Team R would have any real conservatives in place to catch any kind of wave from that
they just don’t think that way
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:15 amOT but my fave headline this week;
“Lawyer: Without The Monkey’s Approval, PETA Can’t Settle Monkey Selfie Case”
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170913/17465338205/lawyer-without-monkeys-approval-peta-cant-settle-monkey-selfie-case.shtml
harkin (3e2319) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:18 am“The reason is simple, if you think about it.
Chuck and Nancy didn’t go for it.”
So they approved the existing travel ban? Sweet!
harkin (3e2319) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:23 amonly boys get to be ghostbusters
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:26 amThat was when Trump was still nominally a Republican, harkin, so I doubt he consulted them. But I hope they would. They have families, too.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:27 amShirley you can’t be serious? After calling the first travel ban something akin to the fugitive slave act, even though it confirmed to the parameters set forth in the 2016. We later discovered that dhs had hid evidence at least once insurgent connected to the hallumscase. I thought the first ban was o’doulz near beer. But a,halting first step.
narciso (320b28) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:33 amI have no idea what you mean or even who you are talking to, narciso.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:36 amDitto Schlicter and Ace, so maybe it’s me.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:36 amI considered it a halting half step, but others here guided by an unreliable source in David bier thought it intolerable, seth frantzman provided some perspective the media still,hasn’t deigned to fill us in on.
narciso (320b28) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:41 amremember how that corrupt dung-muncher at the sleazy DOJ refused to defend the travel ban cause of her said it was unconstitutional?
you can palpably feel what a pompous terrorist-loving piece of corrupt DOJ filth Sally Yates had become towards the end of her tenure just by reading this out loud
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:42 amJust wait until Trump appoints Kamala Harris to the Supreme Court.
Kevin M (752a26) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:43 amThe gist of it was here:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/29/family-ties-3-iraqis-in-us-allegedly-hid-link-to-kidnapper.html
narciso (320b28) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:49 amIllinois AG vacancy discussion
most of that goes over my head
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:52 amShe’d have to do something first, but it wont be the first type of that kind of coffee (Katrina Pierson?)
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:52 amIn other news of no apparent relevance:
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/09/15/two-separate-terror-attacks-france-today-one-suspect-still-loose/amp/
narciso (320b28) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:52 amSeriously, hoagie. There are too many wheels within the wheels of political identity for us to categorize. And when ones broadaxe of assumption must pick demo or Indy or Republican it gets real confusing.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:07 pm“The shape shifter has no true image.
Per Lincoln, why would a shape shifter pick a face like Trump’s?”
Image as metaphor I should have explicitly stated but would that matter when he feels his face, like his hands, are ‘no problem’ along with svelte physique.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:13 pmSometimes stupid people do well in life -and for society as a whole-
but stupid + arrogant is a formula for failure.
And Trump is the most arrogant bastard I’ve ever seen
Gipper's Gravespin (3ff829) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:15 pmBTW Patterico- you have excellent taste in humor, from Norm McDonald to Monty Python.
Something I’ve found rare in most Republicans.
Something tells me you like Chris Elliot too
Gipper's Gravespin (3ff829) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:20 pmAnd yet he’s rich. Go figure.
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:24 pmIf Trump feels this strongly about the matter, he should take his concerns to the President of the United States, who has the power to issue a larger, tougher, more specific ban.
He did, and the courts (so far) rejected it, so he tried again with a narrower one. And in fact it was argued by our host at the time that the President did not have the power to issue the first ban.
Frederick (64d4e1) — 9/15/2017 @ 10:36 am
Giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, that’s what I was thinking that his complaint was based on how he was treated in the courts. One of the judges said that Trump’s travel ban would be proper by anyone except Trump.
AZ Bob (f7a491) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:24 pmHave you an example we would know of someone who is a stupid, arrogant failure? Other than a suicide bomber, I mean.
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:32 pm“One of the judges said that Trump’s travel ban would be proper by anyone except Trump.”
Duh. He telegraphed his true intent during the campaign (Muslim ban) abdicating his 5th Amendment rights to stfu.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:45 pmall them crispy brits abdicated their 5th amenders too i guess
want some salve for that mate
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 1:51 pmPP is fast becoming THE number 1 site for number 2.
Colonel Haiku (ed365f) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:11 pm@23. When Race Bannon runs, he’ll position himself as Mister Squeaky Clean Conservative, the honest heir to the Reagan Scrolls, who endured and emerged unsoiled from repeated dumps by Trump.
He will run as the last gasp of the blast from the past. And he will lose.
There are fewer of them than their echo-chambered media has led them to believe. The wiser ones have already realized this. Sooner or later conservative ideologues will re-learn it is called the Republican Party not the Conservative Party and the hell from Goldwater to Reagan has flamed out; or else, they’ll simply Whig out.
“It’s over.” – Saul Goodman [Bob Odenkirk] ‘Breaking Bad’ AMC TV 2008-2013
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:23 pmR.I.P. Grant Hart, drummer, singer, songwriter for Hüsker Dü
Icy (f55b3b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:25 pmWell…
Yes.
Trump did want once to issue some kind of real big one, but he was disssauded from it and limited it to people who were citizens of seven (later reduced to six) specific countries.
Trump is arguing with his advisers.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:27 pmHusker Don’t
Evergreen 🌲 http://ace.mu.nu/archives/hillary%20-%20the%20russians%20stole%20my%20presidency.jpg
Colonel Haiku (ed365f) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:31 pmyou people need to learn to enjoy living in this special moment in time
it’s a spectacular privilege and a loving and heartfelt gift sent from God in heaven above that we might refresh our spirit for the hard times yet to come
we did a democracy!
President Trump’s a living breathing testimony that we are yet a democracy and a spirited and rambunctious people!
these days they’re a blessing and a wonder to us all
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:32 pmHe may want them to make the case for not doing it, or to come up with something else taht will be extrenely effective.
Meanwhile British Prime Minister Angela May doesn’t like Trump speculating on the motive in the middle of an investigation.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:33 pmthe way NPR was slobbering over Grant Hart you get the feeling he had a fairly radical and fascist anti-american agenda
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:33 pmThe London bomb proves once again bulding bombs is hard.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:33 pmyou’d think there’d be some kind of 3D printer for that Mr. F
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:37 pmhttp://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/398277
Q! bert (fc15db) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:39 pmThe Trump Years: Season 1, on DVD and in the stores for Christmas.
Great stocking stuffer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VSTzGwkMiM
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:41 pmMr. Python doesn’t know very much about President Trump really it’s not like he did all these prescient metaphors all up in it
his work is actually rather generic i think
lalala we’re british dry humor lalala hitler
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:42 pmHusker do, is,a very obscure band, any relation to Corey:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/06/07/piers_morgan_to_sadiq_khan_where_are_the_400_known_jihadists_in_london.html
narciso (364166) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:43 pmyes yes Mr. narciso
obscure and minnesotan both
i axed the googles and can’t find anything particularly political about them
but NPR sure was slobbery
that’s never a good sign
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:46 pmScary wants to mooch something…anything.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/stevenperlberg/friends-are-saying-that-anthony-scaramucci-wants-to-run-for?utm_term=.raOggNxaj#.oprJJ7OYv
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:49 pmThis was back when it was cougar mellencamp and the other Glenn (name escapes) was ranting about reagan.
narciso (364166) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:50 pmFrey?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:51 pm“He Took Advantage (Blues For Ronald Reagan)”
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 2:52 pmAnyone…what is Danas role with Assange?
Did his condom break, too?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-congressman-sought-trump-deal-on-wikileaks-russia-1505509918
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:02 pmTrump psych/social wall
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/rebranding-national-deception/540033/
The first wave of Trump White House refugees is now landing on American shores. The instability of their former abode has already set nearly a dozen senior staffers into motion, with who knows how many more to follow. No question, many of them have suffered horrible abuse and maltreatment. But compassion must be joined to realism. Are these migrants bringing with them values consistent with our way of life?
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:06 pm68.
69.
No this require hands on training. It;s extremely difficult to capture the nuances.
There are no more working suicide belts except in the Pakistani-Afghanistani theatre, but authirtues in Europe haven’t realized it yet. There were only a few bomb builders. Israel killed those working in Gaza ome years ago, and the U.S. killed or captured or caused the ones in Iraq tio flee. (One fled to Kentucky – it wasn’t safe for him to be anywhere in Iraq because it ws known he’d sided with al Qaeda in Iraq)
When the FBI discovered he’d built bombs in Iraq because his fingerprints were identified on an unexploded IED, they did a sting operation. This was in Bowling Green.
None of the terrorists now in Europe probably know how to build any kinds of bomb successfully.
Sammy Finkelman (58e1fc) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:30 pmJeff Sessions was lambasted by President Trump on the day Rosenstein named a special counsel and sent in his resignation, but some people orevailed on Trump not too accept. he wanted too fire him also in July. He told people he’s staying on because of immigration.
Sammy Finkelman (58e1fc) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:30 pmIll try to uload next week ro a website and give a link to the 2006 TIME Almanac page showing that Trump was in Chicago on Sept 11, 2001. I will also try to get a chance to listen to the recordings and see if Trump even claimed that day to be in New York City.
Sammy Finkelman (58e1fc) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:32 pmmixology
i get it
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:41 pmAre you saying they have no access to the internet? I think you’re mistaken.
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:57 pmBoagie,
Examples of rich, stupid, arrogant people who most would consider failures if they weren’t rich, famous and/or celebrities:
Being a famous, rich celebrity doesn’t mean they aren’t failures. It may mean they are lucky.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:39 pmHappy-74, Husker Du was a contemporary of the indie/alt rock group the Replacements as well ad that of Soul Asylum (Runaway Train, c.1993). Their only single of resonance was Gotta Wear Shades.
So is KAC exonerated on her Bowling Green meme? And what if 2020 or 2024 is Race Bannon vs. Racist Bannon?
urbanleftbehind (27010b) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:46 pmoh. brb i’ll go find the npr sentence what made me think he was a fascist america-hater
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:48 pmoh ffs harry dean stanton is dead
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:49 pmlove that dude
have you ever explored the “indie” film category on netflix
it’s a completely forgotten genre
them netflix intern twats have precisely zero clue
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:50 pmnotes from npr hell
As Millennials Get Older, Many Are Buying SUVs To Drive To Their Suburban Homes
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:51 pmThe greatly exaggerated demise of the SUV was a temporary symptom of $4 gas, and the suburban home a by product of more recent fetal policing.
urbanleftbehind (27010b) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:58 pmi’m just not an suv guy i look at one and i feel like i should get paid for driving that
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 4:59 pmR.I.P. Harry Dean Stanton
Sad note. Our loss is Heaven’s gain; music was just part of his act.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:01 pmIt seems that some illumination is in order; so . . .
Hüsker Dü Live 1985
— Always trust in 1980’s punk/thrash concert videos from Icy.
Icy (f55b3b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:01 pmthank you Mr. Icy
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:02 pmAnd a hearty second for the comment on Harry Dean Stanton.
Icy (f55b3b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:03 pmomg they’re kinda squeezey
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:03 pmlemonheadsy
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:04 pmhe played andy’s drunk-ass daddy in pretty in pink no?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:05 pmIf these 2 icons of 1986 pop culture can “buy it”, why can’t amnesty?
urbanleftbehind (27010b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:05 pmamnesty has marco rubio and poop-lick paul oral fellating it on a nightly basis Mr. leftbehind
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:06 pmAnd dont forget “Avenge Me!”
urbanleftbehind (27010b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:06 pm@100. He was always the seasoning in the stew.
Just like you.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:07 pmoh actually it was *andie’s* dad what he played
like the chockit mints with an “i”
i just wanna let them know that they didn’t break me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:09 pmIt’s slick like Teflon Don and his wall of shame, or if you prefer whale sh*t on ice.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:10 pmannie potts voices bo peep in toy story 4?
oh to be alive
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:13 pmI see the 2020 ad now
“You pinned your last-ditch hope to live in the Past on me? What were you thinking?”
[What leads you to believe they were thinking?]
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:14 pmStanton from ‘Cool Hand Luke’ 1967– 50 frigging years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckulh3cSPuU
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:15 pmI can actually imagine the pretzel logician ridiculing his former Base as he gropes the unwary newest and bestest base, the Schoomer contingent. Oh my! How the fickle tea baggers got fickled!!!
I could actually start to believe there is a wise old bearded guy in the clouds dabbling in human affairs.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:21 pmsometimes “picking your battles” means you actually have to pick one
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:23 pmIt’s almost like how we played Yeltsin with 100 proof Stoly. We really savaged the Soviet carcass like a wolf on the fold without a thought about the consequences to their citizenry.
What an incredible Oceans 13 Putin pulled with his Trump card.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:28 pmNo disrespect to HDS meant.
Have a cognac and never look back, Harry.
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:32 pmProgressives are worse than evangelicals when it comes to forcemeat ideology.
California bans fois gras
Ben burn (7e5fb8) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:38 pmHarry D, yes… teh ‘mats, yes!… Du, don’t… Devo hellyeah! Wall of Voodoo, yas!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:53 pmforcemeat ideology = intersectionalism?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:53 pmsrsly just trying to clarify
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:54 pmCisco Pike and Straight Time are Best Of Harry
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:54 pmI thought that was Timbuktu, are we not in the alt universe where Emilio was the big stR.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:55 pmAnd that cattle rustler movie with Jeff Bridges he was in back in ’75 were real good too.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:57 pmoh ffs
Trans Military Ban, Like Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, Won’t Work
Sean Illing, Vox
it’s not *my* job to tell the useless incompetent over-priced US Military not to be a trannied-up p.o.s. joke
but jesus goddamn sunday pancakes
what kind of loser wears that joke of a uniform anymore?
army navy air force marines
gag
and what cup size are his titties?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 5:58 pmthis is the best thing i read all week
yeah i’ve purposely my whole life never seen requiem based on what people tell me about requiem
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:03 pmYes, Repo-man!
The life of a Repo-man is intense.
Trivia: Name the movie:
HDS: If you were paying attention; I put this finger in the urine, and this finger in my mouth!
The answer.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:05 pmAnd Noah with the stone people builders of the ark? I am looking forward to kingsman 2 next week,
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:07 pmJulianne Moore plays the villain who apparently doesn’t like big macs
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:08 pmI was paraphrasing! “If you were observing, doctor…”
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:08 pmI missed K1, But recently saw this. Yeah I am an Archer fan.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:11 pmas much as i detest the sodden queen i’m hoping the next kingsman nails it
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:12 pmnarciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:08 pm
But how does she feel about a royal w/cheese?
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:16 pmI was 18 when Repo Man was released. Saw it at the theater with my friends at least 3 times. One of the best cult classics of all time!
Icy (f55b3b) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:19 pmProbably not that crazy, there was a reference to royale in that Travolta film set in paris.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:20 pmYeah, Repo Man, for sure. Rancho Deluxe was the western. Truth be told, that face had character… like 50 miles of bad road
Missouri Breaks, too.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:20 pmIcy (f55b3b) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:19 pm
Y’know Icy? You’re. All. Right!
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:25 pmRepo Man trivia:
Who came to the door in a dress?
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:27 pmHere’s a movie. The way all Americans should dress for work.
http://anodtothegods.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/tumblr_otdi9yc6yJ1v4hzfko1_500.jpg
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:27 pmGreat movie, Rev. The tin cup scene – classic!
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:30 pmDressed like a huckleberry…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:35 pmThere are no bad Gunfight-At-The-OK-Coral movies. The one with Victor Mature as Doc Holiday could have been but Walter Brennan made up for it.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:36 pmWell tombstone was very long,
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:39 pmNot even Tombstone?
(I may be being unfair to that movie. It was the in-flight entertainment on one of the worst flights I ever took.)
kishnevi (ceb37f) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:40 pmTom Mix cried….
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:41 pmHow about seeing star trekthe motion picture without sound and trying to figure out what was going on.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:47 pmBummer, Kish. I hate it when “that”* happens.
* extraneous events that usurp what might, otherwise, be a moment appreciated.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:48 pmnarciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:47 pm
You are talkin’ Star Trek TMP; I’m thinkin’ “cue ball in the corner pocket.”
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:50 pmstill, narciso, the “WTF?” moment in the movie (for me) was the first moment we see the Klingons. Am I hallucinating? That is how traw-matic- it was for me.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:53 pmThey were just figuring out the formula then, they got it with Knaan then lost it again? This is part of why into darkness was illconsidered.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:54 pmYes, totally agree. Yeah, they lost it with Dorn’s make-up.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:56 pmYes their heads got ridged shells, it didn’t make any sense, then again neither did the undiscovered country.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:56 pm“Tombstone” is probably the best and I say this as someone who has read dozens of variants of the Earp/Holiday legend.
BTW, Hoagie already knows this but maybe you guys don’t, but that Huckleberry pistol that Kilmer carries did not exist back then. It was made for the movie. The holster for it likely did, though.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 6:57 pmPerhaps but they could have cut half an hour pod it, now the line ranger was really bad except for the last 20 minutes.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:00 pmI did not know that, nk.
Narcsico: Undiscovered country was a “judgement at Nuremburg” wannabe.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:01 pmST VI was the worst movie I’ve ever seen in my life, I think.
Felipe, it was the second worst flight I’ve ever been on. Dulles to Rome. The worst being the return trip two weeks later. I will never fly United again if I can help it.
kishnevi (ceb37f) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:03 pmI knew the LOne Ranger was gonna be bad JUJU – never saw it. “didn’t happen” for me.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:03 pmOuch! Sorry to hear that Kish.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:05 pmBe thankful, they run all too often in the syfi channel?
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:07 pmWorst movie – ever – for me, was (shudder) Monkeybone. I never made it past the twenty minute mark.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:07 pmYou win the case of ricearoni, strange days was one of those films that made me consider leaving, Ralf Fiennes should have said no.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:09 pm“The San Francisco treat!”
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:11 pmIt’s myth and legend so any and all liberties may be taken. I was just a kid when I saw Victor Mature in “Samson and Delilah” and I freaked out at a Samson without a beard. That’s not the picture I had of him from Sunday school. But like Walter Brennan in “My Darling Clementine”, Hedy Lamar made up for it.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:12 pmMMMmmm, nk. That is a most sublime line you have written: Thank you.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:15 pmnk. I read a book (yeah, yeah – have your laugh!) titled The Manitou, When it was made into a movie, I was absolutely beside myself to find out who was cast as the protagonist.
This was as I thought it should be.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:22 pmLots of people have read a book, felipe. Why should I laugh?
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:29 pmI thought you would say: “Well, there’s always a first time…”
felipe (023cc9) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:37 pmper my friend Mr. Drudge
in london, the level of threat is critical
god save the queen
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:39 pmor not
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:43 pmnk:
http://onthemainline.blogspot.com/2011/01/beards-and-beardlessness-in-italian.html
Footnote 2 (italics are mine)
kishnevi (1b8c69) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:46 pmInterested readers will want to know that context of this line. Rabbi Reisman begins by noting that many older Bibles show woodcuts of Samson with long hair, but clean-shaven. This seems ridiculous, since he was a Nazir. (And, “all great tzaddikim” have full beards.) However, Rabbi Reisman highlights a Teshuvas Ha-rashba (1:407) in which the Rashba opines that the Nazirite prohibition of cutting hair only applies to the head, but not the beard. Regarding the beard, his prohibition is no more and no less than everyone else’s.
My favorite wife just came back from Scotland and described it as a country of five and a half million people and fifty million sheep. England is the same except there most of the sheep walk on two legs. One “wolf” sends them into a panic.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:49 pmThank you, kishnevi. I didn’t know that.
nk (dbc370) — 9/15/2017 @ 7:51 pmi want to do a walking tour of the cotswolds one day just to honor a friend
other than that
not interested in that dreary lil island
unless i get some real money
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:06 pmok ima big liar
i got a big uk todo list someday
still hate that nasty queen tho
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:08 pmtom brady is useless nfl poop-garbage and i don’t care what he eats on an average day and he can stick his avocados up his nfl thugtrash patriot ass and then inflate them per regulation
the nfl is gayer than the us military that’s how gay it is anymore
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:15 pmFor you Mr Feets
kishnevi (1b8c69) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:18 pmhttps://www.chowdaheadz.com
i maybe screwed up i sended some chowdaheadz candles to my cousin in iowa (set of three) i don’t think that helps hurricane victims though
but i guess that’s why we call them victims
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:30 pmshe’s not a candle person
so i keep sending her more
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:31 pmit was this one i guess
you know what i wanna go back to the amana colonies someday
and just focus on food and sweaters (wool)
that’s not a big ask you know
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:36 pmi loved how it’s all made in america!
President Trump always gives me his super-special smile when i buy american 🙂
this was a good day
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/15/2017 @ 8:40 pmWith up to 25k possible terrorists I’d say the status is more roundhouse (higher than deacon 3)
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:05 pmStanton was a veteran of okinawa.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/15/2017 @ 11:11 pmI am not 100% on Trump but it really is tiresome for Patterico to continuously find fault. Get over it. Would you rather be complaining about Hitlery?
SD Harms (84960b) — 9/16/2017 @ 3:34 amWatchman proved Zach Snyder doesn’t understand superheroes I didn’t bother to pay for man of steel.
narciso (24fb5d) — 9/16/2017 @ 4:11 amThank you, kishnevi. I learned something interesting today because of you.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:07 amC’mon. Is Felipe an adult?
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:12 amAn attorney working on the Justice Department’s highest-profile MONEY LAUNDERING case recently transferred off that assignment in order to join the staff of the special prosecutor investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia, POLITICO has learned.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:18 amDid POLITICO Mention the *highest-profile MONEY LAUNDERING case* was the investigation of the Clinton Foundation and he left because of a conflict of interest?
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:23 amNo, hoagie but thanks for reading
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/15/another-prosecutor-joins-trump-russia-investigation-242794
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:33 amAn encouraging development.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-daca-arizona-20170916-story.html
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:36 amRegardless of the travel ban, can we at least stop lying to ourselves about who we want to keep out?
http://time.com/4930742/islam-terrorism-islamophobia-violence/
The impulse that you can’t criticize any of the is an insult to decent Muslims.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:44 amhttps://theintercept.com/2017/09/15/refugees-were-devastated-by-travel-ban-u-s-diplomats-told-bosses-detailing-despair/
More than 150 refugees from Somalia, Eritrea, and Sudan, who had been poised to travel to the United States, were left stranded in a transit camp in Addis Ababa. When State Department officials visited the camp on January 30, the refugees asked them to intercede and “to prioritize those who are more in need,” including a Somali “with a heart condition whose family departed the day before the EO was announced,” and an “8-year-old boy who has lost 90 percent of his vision to glaucoma,” according to the February 6 memo. Among the Somalis who had to be informed that their “already-printed visas would not allow them entry into the United States” were people who had been “waiting more than a year to join their family members already settled in the U.S.” Those cases included a 2-year-old and “a 4-year-old who had never met his father.”
A March 9 memo described a meeting with Somali refugees who were “clearly emotionally distressed” by the effects of the ban. “A mother of nine said she had used all her money to buy winter clothing for the trip to the United States,” the memo stated. She also “mentioned that her oldest daughter had tried to commit suicide after their family was told their travel was postponed indefinitely.”
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:48 amhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-firtash-0917-chicago-inc-20170915-story.html
U.S. government has “thousands of intercepts” that can be used as evidence against Ukrainian billionaire oligarch Dmitry Firtash, federal prosecutors told a judge Friday as the fight over his extradition to Chicago rumbled on.
But lawyers for Firtash — who has ties to President Donald Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort — walked back their recent claim that Firtash could be brought from Austria to the U.S. “within weeks.”
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:56 amWe can aid over a dozen refugees by leaving them in place as opposed to bringing one here. Just another of the myriad reasons why we are being STUPID.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:01 amHow many Somali’s have you volunteered to take in, Ben burn? May I suggest the one who needs eye surgery to start. Perhaps the crazy one who wants to kill herself too. That’s what will Make America Great Again, the poor, the lame and the crazy! We all know how generous you are with our money, how about your own?
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:05 amIs it cheaper to just wipe them out? Stop being pennywise/pound foolish.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:10 amwiping then out requires fuel and ordnance. Which is expensive.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:13 amExpensive but more satisfying: cheaper too.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:14 amHarry Dean Stanton singing Just A Closer Walk With Thee and Midnight Special in Cool Hand Luke, as good as it gets, can be seen today on TCM.
Dragline: “You better mind you manners, boy. You’re acting like a hillbilly tramp.”
Coco: “”Tramp!” There you go, beauty.”
Gambler: “Hey, yeah, man, you got your bull-gang name now”
Tramp: “Yeah, well, it ain’t no worse than some I’ve been called.”
harkin (fc9aef) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:17 amC’mon. Is Felipe an adult?
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:12 am
I only know felipe through this site, but based on my experience, he’s more of a man than you can ever hope to be, with more wisdom than you can ever hope to have, if you stay on the path you’ve chosen.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:20 amThx, harkin I will record that one.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:24 amSo you say, Pfc. Your persona is easy to assess because you have but one.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:25 amIt’s called the KISS method, burned. Try it, probably beats being a d-bag.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:30 amFor Hoagie
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-unlikely-return-of-cat-stevens/amp
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:39 amit’s a hard hard world 🌎
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:40 amSocial Justice Warrior
and this fart’s for you
Like a dog with diarrhea on a city sidewalk, Ben burn’s sh!t cannot always be avoided, sad to say.
nk (dbc370) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:42 amYou’re a poet, just don’t know it, nk.
https://philebersole.wordpress.com/2017/09/16/wit-and-wisdom-on-church-signs/
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:47 amMore satisfying to whom?
Unlike my friend Hoagie I’ve never been in combat but I have seen humanity at less than its best.
Please ask me about delivering food aid, which is always too valuable to be given away for free.
How am I supposed to be satisfied by seeing my fellow man screwed over?
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:48 amOn this Sabbath I think churchiness will be a nice touch.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:48 amhttp://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2017/september/trump-ends-daca-dreamers-despite-evangelical-advisers.html
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:50 amHow more satisfying? The rhetoric should tell you there is little empathy for refugees because OPM! Ordnance would only be needed once per refugee, versus decades of assistance which is much more expensive.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:55 amI didn’t say anything about “wiping” anybody out. Where do you come up with this stuff? I’m for keeping them out not wiping them out.
In fairness anybody who want’s immigrants brought in should be assigned a couple or a few. They should feed, clothe and shelter them and be responsible for their actions. If you aren’t willing to do that comrade Ben, you have no right to expect others to do so.
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:59 amhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/05/religion-evangelical-christian-apocalypse-josiah-hesse
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:59 amSo you’d rather condemn them to further hardship rather than put them out of their misery? They sure pay a high price for your ‘purity’.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 9:01 am186, they know that’s the only way they’re getting their wall, so why jam the gears?
urbanleftbehind (27010b) — 9/16/2017 @ 9:05 amUrban
I’ve found the immigrants from South have good work ethic and family values. What’s up with the hatred? They do work the rest don’t want. Hellfires ignorance!
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 9:13 amWho are “them?”
I have no wish nor ability to condemn anyone. And actually I wish “them” prosperity. Especially the prosperity that can only come with indulging in fossil fuels.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 9:34 amColonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:20 am
Thanks, Colonel. Sheesh, this Ben guy is still obsessing over me? I have only this to say to him:
ὁρκίζω σε τὸν θεόν
nk (dbc370) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:42 am
You got that right, nk.
A very happy Saturday to everyone! Even you, Ben.
felipe (023cc9) — 9/16/2017 @ 9:40 amfelipe, you are doing the Lord’s work. And happy Saturday to you. sir.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 9:52 am@Haiku, Steve57, Hoagie: Ben burn’s sole motive is to provoke you.
That’s why he can’t stand the thought of people using the script to blank his comments.
He’s not posting anything in a good faith attempt to engage. Accusing you of a desire for genocide (from what I can see) is pretty convincing proof of that.
I think it would be better to ignore him, with the aid of the script if you find it too hard without.
Frederick (80401a) — 9/16/2017 @ 9:58 amFor Frederick
http://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-manafort-sought-dollar850-million-deal-with-putin-ally-and-alleged-gangster
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:02 amYou guys sure are full of assumptions about my role here. If you don’t want to talk…don’t talk. Keep it simple stupid, is hoagies advice.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:03 amI’ve never seen a class of people so determined to protect their personal bubble.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:05 amThank you, felipe.
I am a believer in Alinsky Rule Number 4: “Make the enemy live up to his own book of rules.” Well, one of my rules is “Unapologetically tell assholes to f**k off.” And I’m living up to it. 😉
nk (dbc370) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:05 amThe best part of the existence of the script, and its use by some commenters here, is that trolls like ben burn cannot know if they are being blanked by a machine, or if their trollery is just failing to provoke, and that uncertainty is maddening to them.
It’s like herd immunity.
Frederick (80401a) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:12 amThe uncertainty is maddening..
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:23 amhttp://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-sanctuary-state-bill-20170916-story.html
Journalism is just Capitalism at it’s best.
https://theintercept.com/2017/09/16/hillary-clinton-doesnt-understand-why-the-corporate-media-is-so-bad/
“The New York Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, et al., are gigantic corporations — in most cases owned by even larger ones. And the job of giant corporations is not to inform American citizens about reality. It’s not to play a hallowed role in the history of a self-governing republic. It’s to make as much profit as possible. That in turn means the corporate media will never, ever be “liberal” in any genuine sense, and will be hostile to all politicians who feint in that direction.
From that perspective, the media’s performance in 2016 was a shining, glorious success. “
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:39 amI’ll talk to you, Ms Ben burn.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:44 amFor starters, there is some capitalism in journalism but most of today’s American media have worked hard at consolidating their interests. Hence the groupthink we often see. They have become more like a monopoly than market-based capitalism.
Sometimes monopolies make sense, but I don’t think that’s the case when it comes to modern American journalism.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:47 amEureka I have power.
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:49 amIn this election, groupthink led them all to cover the candidate who made them money. That worked this time and it will always work if that’s what the public wants, but I don’t think everyone does. I think it will result in more competition, and that is capitalism.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:51 amWas your power off, narciso? I’m glad you are back and especially glad you have A/C.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/16/2017 @ 10:52 amDrj:
Decades ago the pros understood conflict of interest in Media profitology. Networks did not hold news divisions responsible for profitability. They saw NEWS as a public service, not a profit center. This changed in the 70s. Now they have to chase ad revenue and programming that keeps cash flowing.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:02 amhttp://niemanreports.org/articles/the-transformation-of-network-news/
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:07 amhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-administration-working-toward-renewed-drilling-in-arctic-national-wildlife-refuge/2017/09/15/bfa5765e-97ea-11e7-87fc-c3f7ee4035c9_story.html?utm_term=.7b2158805db8
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:20 amAnd with a broader outlook:
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:22 amnypost.com/2017/09/16/the-day-that-destroyed-the-working-class-and-sowed-the-seeds-for-trumpt
NO ONE told them the Industrial Age was ending…and so they just closed their eyes to reality.
http://nypost.com/2017/09/16/the-day-that-destroyed-the-working-class-and-sowed-the-seeds-for-trump/
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:30 amhttp://www.salon.com/2010/09/06/when_blue_collar_dreams_became_identity_politics/
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:34 amNote staughton lynds contribution in the piece
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:36 amhttp://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-06/news/mn-247_1_white-collar-workers
During all six recessions since the early 1960s, the increase in jobless rates was at least twice as high for blue-collar workers as for white-collar workers. Throughout the 1990-91 recession, the blue-collar unemployment rate remained more than twice the rate than that of white-collar workers.
* White-collar workers have been hit harder in this recession than in earlier ones, though still not as hard as blue-collar workers.
* At the end of last year, the increase in the number of jobless white-collar workers was about as great as the rise in the number of unemployed blue-collar workers. In earlier recessions, the increase in the blue-collar unemployment level was two to four times the white-collar increase.
MANUFACTURING:
The federal government reports that manufacturing employment has fallen in the last decade:
* The annual average manufacturing employment was 20.3 million in 1980. A decade later, it was 19.1 million. In July, 1990, the beginning of the recession, it was 19.1 million. In July, 1992, it was 18.2 million.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 11:42 amThis lady has a pretty good idea why people are not watching award shows like they used to. And she’s cute too!
https://youtu.be/bLSB7oxib9I
Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/16/2017 @ 12:30 pm@229/230. Doooooo tell. Do tell.
Paley used to quip that the advertising revenue from ‘I Love Lucy’ alone paid the entire annual operating budget for CBS News.
You can thank the likes of Roone Arledge for injecting the flash and sizzle of entertainment values and production techniques honed in successful- and profitable- sports programming into news. He yanked ABC News out of its perennial third place. It worked; audiences swelled and ratings rose. And you can thank the easing of FCC regs and licensing qualifiers in the Reagan era, the demise of the Fairness Doctrine and the rise of unregulated cable programming in conjunction with the drop in costs for satellite access. And thank Ted Turner; his business model recognized news as a global product to sell advertising around as profit center – and it was successful as well. Competitors followed suit; NBC… Fox… etc. It gave new life to old news as well; witness the History Channel. Back in the merge and purge 80’s, when Tisch bought CBS, he closed news bureaus worldwide and cut staff across the network by roughly 66%– with less than a 4% ROI. Few viewers could tell but it established a business model where both news and entertainment programing had to demonstrate it could build an audience quickly– or get yanked. Hill Street Blues would never have survived today. Hence- lots of food and tabloid ‘entertainent news’ TV shows appeared, and fewer investigative news documentaries and programming was done. The pursuit of profit has surplanted the public service aspect of network broadcast news, which is a dying entity in this era. And with the rise of 24/7 cable news, where ratings points are literally counted by the minute, and the internet, the explosion of alternative media outlets and easy access to them on ever expanding platforms has never been better– or healthier– for the Republic.
“And that’s the way it is.” – Walter Cronkite, CBS News anchor signoff, 1962-1981
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/16/2017 @ 12:36 pmEveryone wants to elevate capitalism to some Grail that’s merely a vessel. They don’t recognize sour wine as vinegar.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 12:46 pmDC:
Did you know Cronkite, a big Eisenhower buff, worked under cover to defeat Adlai Stevenson?
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 12:50 pmI look back at my own texts in horror.
Thanks, Ben!
I now realize my use of capitalization and punctualization amounted to nothing.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 2:02 pmBen burn,
Well, there are ratings that provide incentives. But the fact that some news divisions don’t have a bottom line seems to me to argue against the media and journalism as an example of capitalism. Was that your point and I missed it? I thought you were saying media is an example of how capitalism works, but to me it is as corrupted as healthcare.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/16/2017 @ 2:03 pmCapitalism isn’t perfect but do you really think managed economies work better? They are the easiest to corrupt for the benefit of the few.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/16/2017 @ 2:05 pm@242. See #238. Depends on the medium. Print was always a profit center. Newspaper wars, famous if not infamous. Broadcast news (radio and later, television) was a loss-leader until the early 80s; a public service subject to the Fairness Doctrine and necessary qualifier for licensing renewals. The rise of unregulated cable, the drop in satellite access costs, the end of the Fairness Doctrine and changes in FCC broadcast licensing requirements changed everything.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/16/2017 @ 2:17 pmDrj
Point being capitalism is what corrupted journalism.
Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 9/16/2017 @ 2:18 pm@245. It’s the whole back story to the incredibly prescient ‘Network’.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/16/2017 @ 6:02 pmWhat wee crazy about. Network was the way the sla was glorified, the way pop psychology was proferredcinstead of truth, how snake oil like keynesian and socialism wee excepted.chayevsky was prescient in the influence of oil money, fir example on the rise if cnn, however he couldn’t explain what was the real problem there
narciso (d1f714) — 9/16/2017 @ 6:16 pmIf I were to carry spears, swords, etc. openly, as it appears will become legal after 1 September, the first item I would choose to carry would be the Kuckry knife. And, oh by the way, this is the anniversary of the Battle of Saraghari.
https://www.sikhnet.com/news/anniversary-battle-saragarhi
I have reasons for culturally appropriating the Kuckry as opposed to the Kirpan.
http://www.himalayan-imports.com/new.html
Ayo Gorkhali!
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 7:15 pmThis white supremacist wants to know. Why hasn’t been a movie made about the “Pied Piper of Saipan>”
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:11 pmThe hispanic was clearly an imperialist white hispanic. Not one of those good indigenous hispanics.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:20 pmIndigenous BROWN hispanics.
Lest anyone think I’ve forgotten the importance of melanin.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:33 pmThat Gabaldon dude looked pretty “real” to me, Steve57. Would have made an ideal puppet President down there, but they read and follow their constitution.
urbanleftbehind (28c431) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:54 pm81. SF:
85. Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 9/15/2017 @ 3:57 pm
I’m saying that the Internet won’t teach you that.
Even the very professional bombs that the Allies had during World War II had a non-explosion rate of 15% (the bias was to safety I think)
Sammy Finkelman (58e1fc) — 9/16/2017 @ 8:58 pmUm, you are a lawyer. Have you heard of the courts? Specifically, liberal a-hole judges who think they have personal veto power over legislation and EO’s based on feelings, not on the Constitution?
You are unreadable with this never-trump stupidity. Just dust off your “I’m with Her” tee shirt and wear it proudly.
Smarty (4a244d) — 9/18/2017 @ 11:17 am^Binary Choice Trap Door Activated!!!!
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/18/2017 @ 12:11 pm