"I want to thank these guys for saving my life”: See the moment CNN’s @DrewGriffinCNN rescues a man from a sinking truck in Beaumont, Texas pic.twitter.com/V46LMIE0tk
— CNN (@CNN) August 30, 2017
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]
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CNN crew saved a Texan’s life? CNN just lost DCSCA as a viewer.
nk (dbc370) — 8/31/2017 @ 8:20 amNice work, Drew!
Patricia (5fc097) — 8/31/2017 @ 8:40 amCNN is gonna fire that man.
Don (11847a) — 8/31/2017 @ 8:40 amReporters occasionally remember that they don’t have to be just observers. A CBS News crew on Sunda gave a man a poncho after first saying they couldn’t do anything..
Sammy Finkelman (5fb112) — 8/31/2017 @ 8:45 amThe theme running through media tape is the ‘working together’ to counter the nasty Trump Zeitgeist as an opportunity to bridge differences. Not everyone can be a hero, so lets lower the bar for the sake of our fragile community.
Ben burn (426255) — 8/31/2017 @ 9:04 am“Reporters occasionally remember that they don’t have to be just observers”
Alternatively, the media has relaxed standards regarding the hilarious “just impartial observers” nonsense after finally noting absolutely no one puts any credence whatsoever in the absurd claim. It’s great to see reporters allowed the freedom to exercise their inherent common decency.
Rick Ballard (48cc19) — 8/31/2017 @ 9:07 amGreat save announcer. Is the announcer from Texas?
mg (31009b) — 8/31/2017 @ 9:41 amGreat American Hero (sammichman)
http://shareblue.com/this-is-the-best-photo-trump-could-find-for-witnessing-hurricane-devastation-first-hand/
Ben burn (426255) — 8/31/2017 @ 9:58 amWell, this must be broken clock day (goodwill lost): http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/31/french-magazine-charlie-hebdo-mocks-harvey-victims-as-neo-nazis.html
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 8/31/2017 @ 10:51 amSomehow the reporter running off-camera in khaki shorts managed to reappear on camera 9 sec later in long black pants/hip waders. The presumed editing doesn’t change what happened but does increase the dramatic effect of the presentation. Makes one wonder what else happened in the missing footage.
crazy (11d38b) — 8/31/2017 @ 11:10 am@1. Fake news.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/31/2017 @ 11:18 amThey are desperate to be part of the story. They “may” have helped the guy out of his truck but manipulating it (obvious with clothing change) is ridiculous. CNN has cried wolf so many time that nobody believes anything they say anymore.
Marci (e5bb26) — 8/31/2017 @ 11:29 am@9. Stinging.
Projected perception perceived as a reality; OTOH, worth pause for the ‘freedom fries’ and ‘rifle-dropping’ crowd to consider how others in other lands see you.
The mature respond is silence– 9,400 times over. Take your pick:
https://www.shutterstock.com/search/normandy+cemetery
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/31/2017 @ 11:39 am@8. Ben, you do realize that what’s missing from that image is just a wing and a window seat.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/31/2017 @ 11:46 amI’ve watched that clip several times, and don’t see the reporter wearing khaki shorts. In fact, I can’t see what he’s wearing (beyond the CNN windbreaker), until he’s visible helping the man out of the water, at which point he’s in waders, etc.
There is an obvious break before the rescuee starts talking on camera.
Just remember folks that it doesn’t take fifty inches of rain to make street flooding possible, with water too deep for cars or trucks…..this kind of thing can happen anywhere and anywhen if the rainfall is too much for the drainage system to handle (especially if blocked by debris).
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 8/31/2017 @ 11:59 amThere’s gonna come a point where given the choice between a CNN field office and a Planned Parenthood clinic, a security guard is going to go with the clinic.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:01 pmSave the budget, Heroes!
Would I love to cuckold Mnuchinnychinchin.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/31/mnuchin-we-have-a-very-detailed-tax-plan-ready.html
Ben burn (426255) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:07 pmYeah, that’s conspiracy-theory Infowars/Conservative Treehouse horseshit. The guy in khaki shorts is not the guy running — you can clearly hear the reporter’s footsteps running at the same time you see the guy in khaki shorts standing there and NOT running. You may find this hard to believe, but there were actually two guys in red CNN jackets out there! (What? Two guys wearing CNN jackets on a CNN live shot? I know, fake news right?)
I knew when I posted this I was likely to get some kind of weird comments because #FAKENEWSCNN!!!1! but the Infowars bullshit I didn’t see coming. Anyway you’re wrong about this.
Patterico (7e501e) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:15 pmGuys, I know Infowars and Conservative Treehouse love them some Trump but if you happen to care about truth more than you care about Trump then you are going to beclown yourselves relying on sites like that.
Btw President Trunp isn’t on house arrest either, even if wackadoodle Cernovich and his new pals at Breitbart say he is.
Patterico (7e501e) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:19 pmMeanwhile, out in the Atlantic, I comes after H
https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2017/08/31/hurricane-irma-forms-atlantic-forecast-reach-extremely-dangerous-major-hurricane-strength/620069001/
kishnevi (bb03e6) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:29 pmThey are paying it forward to the next press/ANTIFA interaction.
Pinandpuller (16b0b5) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:32 pm@20. Just was checking the NOAA hurricane forecast map; southeast of Irma a fresh disturbance has appeared, as well.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:36 pmNo i find that controversy uninteresting
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-fbi-fights-public-release-of-trump-dossier-info/
article/2633048
How are you faring Marco?
narciso (d1f714) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:44 pm18, admittedly I thought the red jackets looked a bit faux retro like from the Bernard Shaw/Evans&Novak era.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 8/31/2017 @ 12:50 pmI’m happy to be wrong.
crazy (11d38b) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:06 pmthis CNN reporter’s saved more lives in one day than war hero John McCain did his whole career
happyfeet (28a91b) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:09 pmMarci, it could be a set up but I’m giving drew the benefit of the doubt
narciso (d1f714) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:10 pmI’d be happy if a larger lesson were learned about sites like Conservative Treehouse.
Patterico (7e501e) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:10 pmThere was no clothing change, as I just explained.
Patterico (7e501e) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:11 pmA publication that published mensch lunacy doesn’t deserve such deference as with Benghazi Sanford, ferguson et al.
narciso (d1f714) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:13 pmI love the relentless Benghazi outrage in the Dystopian Iraq shadow.
Both sides do it unequally.
Ben burn (426255) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:31 pm@29
Ah, upon looking at video footage of other shots of the reporter I stand corrected, it was not him that was pulling the man from the car. So no clothing change, two people, and if you take time to listen to the audio it is obvious. Fell for the conspiracy I did, yup, uh huh, uh huh. Mea Culpa
I still stand by my statement that the media is desperate to be part of the story instead of just reporting it. As a resident of Houston I have witnessed this and it’s despicable. When reporters take up room in boats for rescues so there isn’t room for full families that’s a problem. And it happened more than once or twice, it was common. And I don’t believe anything they say anymore.
Marci (e5bb26) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:40 pmi love him more than the sky is blue!
he got the little bitty babies in his hands he got the whole whirl in his hands
happyfeet (28a91b) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:41 pm@18. They’re nutz, Patterico.
Some guys know how to handle being relentlessly accused of peddling conspiracy buzz as ‘fake news’ the right way; with a right cross.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OROlF8zB9z0
“To the moon, Alice!” – Ralph Kramden [Jackie Gleason] ‘The Honeymooners’ DuMont-CBS TV 1955
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:51 pm33. Well, actually that makes sense. He maybe won’t give to the Red Cross!
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 8/31/2017 @ 1:54 pmTrump kicks in six bits. Did he ever fulfill the pledge to Vets? He’s notoriously bad on follow through.
Ben burn (426255) — 8/31/2017 @ 2:12 pmhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/09/16/trump-said-hed-give-away-5-million-or-maybe-50-million-for-proof-obama-was-born-in-the-u-s-will-he-pay-it/?utm_term=.79efad0ac0cb
Trump did eventually,when it was pointed out he hadn’t yet given the money, give the money to the veterans’ charities.
Here is anotehr story about the Red Cross:
http://www.newser.com/story/248010/red-cross-vp-on-portion-of-donations-going-to-relief-really-dont-know.html
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 8/31/2017 @ 2:14 pmThey claim in that piece to use 91 cents per dollar. I would LOVE to see the ledger.
Ben burn (426255) — 8/31/2017 @ 2:18 pm“the media is desperate to be part of the story instead of just reporting it”
Marci,
Tie that in with the stunning recent discovery that Antifa/BLM cosplayers are actually violent thugs and you can see the result of a 15W bulb suddenly dimly illuminating what passes for the mind of a progressive. Notice is being taken of the depth and breadth of the revolting prole phenomenon (which actually began in 2010) and the fact many of those revolting used to be counted as semi-reliable by the Democrat Party. Fortunately, the rot in institutions dominated by progressives is far too deep for any feeble attempts at remediation to make any difference. Toss in the fact brain dead profs at the institutions of lower indoctrination will be back to whipping would be cosplayers to frenzied idiocy in a few weeks and the futility of the effort is manifest.
Rick Ballard (48cc19) — 8/31/2017 @ 2:40 pmRegarding rain in Brooklyn: It didn’t rain yesterday or half of today. About two hours ago there was avery mild drizzle which has now turned into an almost inmperceptable one.
The New York Times ran an editorial about how things are much worse in India than in Texas and in Bombay than in Houston.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/31/opinion/harvey-climate-global-cities.html
They blame “unregulated development” and climate change.
There was also a news story:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/world/asia/mumbai-monsoon-flood-houston.html
It tells how people help others, also.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 8/31/2017 @ 2:52 pmhttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/30/us/houston-flood-rescue-cries-for-help.html
There are maps here.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 8/31/2017 @ 3:00 pmThe New York Times had a front page story about the history of floods in Houston. The article attempted to push an agenda, but it wasn’t really successful at that. Too fair. Maybe it got revised too much and they contacted too many sources.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/30/us/houston-flooding-growth-regulation.html
We learn here that Houston (like Chicago by the way and I think Miami) was the result of real estate speculation. That’s why there’s a big city there. Houston is a successful Ponzi scheme, in other words.
Then in 1900 when a storm in Galveston killed at least 6,000 people the Houston Ship Channel was built (by 1914) to allow ships to come to an inland port.
There was a flood in 1929 and another in 1935. The Harris County Flood Control District was created in 1937, and eventually the Addicks and Barker reservoirs were built (with some federal assistance) to hold water. Also two key bayous were converted to concrete culverts and channels were built. But they ultimately did not get ahead of the building. They realized there was a problem brewing in the 1980s.
There are ways to prevent flooding that developers can do, (leaving open land, or detention ponds to store rainwater) but they don’t do it or do enough of that, because that makes things more expensive. And maybe they wouldn’t work too well. Phil Bediant, a professor at Rice University, says it’s been known how to do it right for years.
The soil is made of clay, groundwater has been pumped out, sinking land, the area west of Houstoin has now been built on, and now 30% of the land in Houston is either roads, parking lots or roofs (as presumabably determined from aerial photographs)
In June, 2001, Tropical Storm Allison dumped 80% of the usual annual rainfall (and now Harvey has dumped more than 100%)
In 2010 something called Rebuild Houston was approved by voters to imrprove roads and the drainage system but it’s apparently been slow going, maybe because some people don’t like taxes and fees and there have been two lawsuits. (the article wasn’t exactly clear about that.)
There have been 3 major floods in the past three years: On Memorial Day in 2015, on Tax Day in 2016 and now Harvey. In May 2016 Mayor Sylvester Turner appointed a “flood control czar”, Stephen Costello, a former at-large City Council member who was also an engineer. He was too busy to take any calls yesterday from the New York Times for that article.
They have a quote from an author that if they put super strict planning shackles on Houston that would kill cheap housing.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 8/31/2017 @ 3:48 pm“@8. Ben, you do realize that what’s missing from that image is just a wing and a window seat.”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/31/2017 @ 11:46 am
Irony of ironies, what’s missing from that post is just a minimum amount of wit and a TCM movie quote.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/31/2017 @ 6:54 pmJust putting this here:
https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2017/8/31/sally-quinn-and-her-ghosts-a-memoir-about-magic-sex-spirituality-and-the-religion-beat
Remember she ridiculed Nancy Reagan for astrology and she went after the huntress for something or anither
narciso (d1f714) — 8/31/2017 @ 7:15 pm@43.=Haiku!= Gesundheit!
“…what’s missing from that post is’…friendly fire.
Ironic – isn’t it.
“Tell those damn fools to stop shooting at us, we’re Americans!” – Maj. Truman Landon [Norman Alden] ‘Tora! Tora! Tora!’ 1970
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/31/2017 @ 7:38 pmYes it was, Marci. Look again. There just happened to be another guy there (khaki shorts guy) also wearing a red CNN rain jacket.
Patterico (115b1f) — 9/1/2017 @ 7:22 am@46… Patterico I know I know. I just wrote out my thoughts wrong, I was thinking one thing and wrote another. Never done that? It was not the man running in shorts that pulled the man from the car and the reporter later on and before the incident in other pieces had on pants as he did when he pulled the man from the car. Sheesh. I know I know. I should have written
“Ah, upon looking at video footage of other shots of the reporter I stand corrected, it was him that pulled the man from the truck and not the man who is seen running to the truck wearing shorts. The reporter was wearing pants the entire time which is obvious from other reports before and after the incident.”
I knew as soon as I posted that and reread it that I had just let my words go with what was in my feeble flooded mind instead of proof-reading and someone would call me on it. I tried to edit it but alas, you can’t edit your comments on this site, or if you can I can’t figure out how to.
So cut me a break for not immediately correcting. I instead went out and pulled carpet out of my neighbor’s 4000 sq. foot house that had 2 feet of water in it. Then I had to get men out here to cut down a tree that was uprooting and threatening my house. It was more important than correcting my mistake. And now I’m headed down to remove sheetrock from my garage in a different house to prevent mold and help more neighbors. I think that will keep me busy and away from making comments online for a while.
Marci (e5bb26) — 9/1/2017 @ 2:22 pmBen Burn and DCSCA – two faux edgy keyboard dicks who should get a room.
Jack Klompus (381f55) — 9/2/2017 @ 5:03 pmMarci,
Not trying to jump down your throat. But a lot of misleading stuff has been written about this and I am trying to add to what is factual and prevent the spread of the garbage.
What other people do if they make a mistake in a comment is leave a quick comment after the mistaken one explaining the mistake.
But it sounds like you have bigger issues to deal with, and I agree that they sound like they were more important than correcting the mistake.
I hope you didn’t take my correction personally.
Patterico (115b1f) — 9/2/2017 @ 5:15 pmJ@49 Patterico
Just tired and edgy. Sorry for my jumping down your throat.
There is NOTHING heavier than soaking wet carpet and seeing people in such trauma is hard. Add to that the stupid insurance companies/adjusters that are saying, “don’t remove anything before we come and see it to access damage or we won’t pay for it” so people are left with stuff molding in their house for fear of not having insurance pay out. It’s ridiculous. Many are video-taping their house and taking tons of photos and just ripping out the stuff anyway because if they end up with black-mold insurance is definitely not going to cover it.
This whole city smells like mold. It makes me irritable.
The good thing is Houston is amazing and really pulling together.
Marci (e5bb26) — 9/2/2017 @ 7:05 pmit’s not all about houston you know
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/2/2017 @ 7:43 pmI have been taught perspective – I bristled at the traffic inconvenience s wrought by this (I live a mile west of the flooded zone, but suffered no flooding in my home).
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 9/2/2017 @ 8:09 pmThat is good. By the way, when happyfeet acts like a jackass it’s best to just ignore him.
Patterico (115b1f) — 9/3/2017 @ 10:53 ami have not been a jackass oh my goodness i’ve been helping quite a lot initially through the Salvation Army but now primarily through the food bank of the golden crescent which will help provide a safety net for those in south texas outside of houston
there’s much to be done, and my family’s done quite a bit more than I
my sister lives in the affected area and she’s exhausted herself helping to distribute the relief carted in by what she says is a never-ending stream of 18 wheelers
she of course had the good sense to weather the storm in Maryland, and i was able to help her rebook flight after flight to return home
i also have a newspaper article about the organization my little brother helped put together in own his little town what’s about as removed from South Texas as one could be
we’re planning to get together in Rockport this summer, and I hope that’s something we can do
in short we’ve all thought about little else since Mr. Harvey came to Texas
but Houston’s initial complacency in the face of this disaster remains notable
and my only wish is that they come through this with a resolve to do better next time
to bolster and harden their infrastructure
and to do more to mitigate the risk to those most vulnerable to rising water
i will not accept such poopy-twaddle as “there’s nothing they could have done” or such patently disingenuous remarks to the effect that “there’s no way they could have evacuated six million people”
after Katrina we all deserved to see a very clear demonstration of “lessons learned” in Houston this August
and i believe this demonstration was lacking to a degree i would adjudge sufficient
more to the point
it’s wholly immoral not just in Houston but throughout the affected area to come through this with any sentiment other than
Next time we will do better.
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/3/2017 @ 11:19 amoopers I meant to say the organization my little brother helped put together in *his own* little town
happyfeet (28a91b) — 9/3/2017 @ 11:21 amThe death toll in Houston has risen to 46, 47, 50 and 60. Most of those from drowning. A few of them from not being able to get medical treatment for unrelated conditions.
The Wall Street Journal has a good story, I think on Friday. They also had an editorial in which they said something like that there are people trying to blame two things neither of which is to blame: climate change, and if that doesn’t work, lack of zoning (something like that)
I read also the two dams were built in 1942 and 1947. They just didn’t keep up with things.
Another big flood was in 1994.
The
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/5/2017 @ 2:50 pm