Report: Trump Jr. Was Told That the Russian Government Was the Source for the Hoped-for Dirt on Hillary/DNC
At The Jury Talks Back, commenter “Appalled” asks:
So how do we get to state of mind and level of knowledge of the Trump people? Where do the r[e]porters need to dig next?
One way would be to see if anyone will go on record or produce documents to support this:
Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.
The email to the younger Mr. Trump was sent by Rob Goldstone, a publicist and former British tabloid reporter who helped broker the June 2016 meeting. In a statement on Sunday, Mr. Trump acknowledged that he was interested in receiving damaging information about Mrs. Clinton, but gave no indication that he thought the lawyer might have been a Kremlin proxy.
Trump Jr.’s lawyer is acknowledging Trump Jr.’s receipt of an email from Goldstone. His statement does not appear to specifically dispute or acknowledge the allegations that the email said the source of the information was the Russian government:
“In my view, this is much ado about nothing. During this busy period, Robert Goldstone contacted Don Jr. in an email and suggested that people had information concerning alleged wrongdoing by Democratic Party front-runner, Hillary Clinton, in her dealings with Russia,” he told The Times in an email on Monday. “Don Jr.’s takeaway from this communication was that someone had information potentially helpful to the campaign and it was coming from someone he knew. Don Jr. had no knowledge as to what specific information, if any, would be discussed.”
The information passed along by Goldstone appears to have been second- or third-hand (or fourth- or fifth-hand). Goldstone said in an interview that he had no idea the information came from the Russian government. After three anonymous sources described the email to the New York Times, “efforts to reach him for further comment were unsuccessful.” (It’s a trick that Big Media uses to give someone very little time to respond, to make targets sound unresponsive. We’ll see if Goldstone re-emerges in the next 24 hours.)
Your periodic warning: reports based on anonymous sources might be interesting, but only a fool assumes them to be true until there is corroboration. That said, people are going to be asked to go on record to respond to this, and their responses will be interesting. So it’s worth knowing what the allegations are.
Ben Shapiro’s question remains relevant to me: why did such high-level people meet with a “random human”?
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back, the only place I will (likely) comment on this post.]
Except for a DING!
Patterico (115b1f) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:21 pmWaaaaaah! Fake News! Virtue Signalling! Hillary Clinton!
Leviticus (e53afc) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:28 pmthe new york times fake news propaganda sluts
they don’t even have the email
look out woodward and bernstein
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:31 pmDamn them for lacking substance, right?
Leviticus (e53afc) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:34 pmfor starters we can just damn them for being boring i think
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:36 pmI think Mr. Putin is a strong leader who has control of his country and he loves America and he wants America to be strong too in a stable world and that is why the possibility of Hillary “Behghazi” Clinton becoming President pained him so much that he wanted Mr. Trump who is a self-made billionaire and a brilliant man to become President and Make America Great Again and you are all just one big bunch of big meanies repeating fake news from Left-wing Communist MFM propaganda sluts who want Mr. Trump to fail and America to fail and to make all our food gluten-free and put a tranny in ever school bathroom and shower and that’s all I have to say about this.
nk (dbc370) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:36 pm*Benghazi*
nk (dbc370) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:37 pmSo three anonymous sources contradict a source who willingly identified himself for the public record.
Until and unless further evidence comes to light, I go with the person who is not afraid to name himself. Even if he is a tabloid reporter.
kishnevi (4aeca3) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:40 pmSure. Except he has not contradicted the key assertion of the article: that the email said the information came from the Russian government.
Patterico (115b1f) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:51 pmYou forgot “road diets” nk. It’s the new Democrat fad.
Kevin M (752a26) — 7/10/2017 @ 7:57 pmThe article says he was the one who sent the email, and that the email said the Russian government was involved. In an interview he said he did not know about Russian government involvement. Which means one of three things:he lied in the interview, he lied in the email, or the anonymous sources lied about the email. I think the latter is most probable.
kishnevi (4aeca3) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:02 pmThis?
There’s lot of them in the Chicago Western suburbs I frequent.
nk (dbc370) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:03 pmOK. Let’s say it’s all true.
The Russian government knew something about Hillary that disturbed them. Or maybe they were disturbed by the thought of 4 more years of these schmucks running US foreign policy. Whatever. And it disturbed them so much that they were willing to help Trump, who was not their friend on many issues (oil, for one. Eastern Europe for another).
So, they had an intermediary contact Junior for a meeting to pass along information. Was Junior supposed to balk? What was he supposed to do? Say “No, you are Russian and Russians have cooties!”? Or was the correct thing to meet them and hear them out?
For all he knew they were going to tell him that Hillary was a paid KGB asset in the 80’s (which would be germane to the campaign). I hear that it was about Hillary’s campaign getting substantial sums from individual Russians. But again, whatever. Was it verboten to hear about it? Or even use it, if meaningful, and true?
Again, looking at this through Trump-hating glasses may make one feel better about hating Trump, but to those of us committed to looking at the world as it is, it sounds like more of the same boring innuendo and FUD.
Kevin M (752a26) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:08 pmnk. Did it help?
They just tried it in LA on the only roads in or out of a beach community. According to residents without cars, it was wonderful. The rest thought it sucked.
Kevin M (752a26) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:10 pmThree witnesses to an email, but no witnesses to the 33,000 emails Hillary gave a direct order to destroy, or the thousands of emails related to the Lois Lerner IRS conspiracy. It’s almost as if the NYT is not interested in investigating such things.
Proud Prolifer (e38d6c) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:10 pmKishnevi,
You’re right. I was thinking of Jr.’s lawyer.
I do find it odd that he does not address that issue.
Patterico (115b1f) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:10 pmIf we’re quoting Ben Shapiro, let’s all keep this tweet in mind:
Ben Shapiro@benshapiro
“Tweet saying @POTUS ignored Italian translation headphones: 14,000 re-tweets
Tweet correcting that he used smaller earpiece: 42 re-tweets.”
Food for thought here folks.
harkin (de269f) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:14 pm“Sure. Except he has not contradicted the key assertion of the article: that the email said the information came from the Russian government.”
I spoke to a fourth anonymous source who saw the e-mail, who noted that it was sent by the widow of the former finance ministry of Nigeria. Suspicious that Trump Jr. has not denied that connection either.
Proud Prolifer (e38d6c) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:15 pmMeh. =ba-thumpa= Some ‘body’ just made a Fifth Avenue bus.
“Don’t be a sap. You’re taking the fall.” – Sam Spade [Humphrey Bogart] ‘The Maltese Falcon’ 1941
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:17 pm“Three witnesses to an email, but no witnesses to the 33,000 emails Hillary gave a direct order to destroy…..”
Don’t forget, after her emails disappeared Trump joked that maybe the Russians could find them, this resulted in countless nitwits claiming he was was directing Russia to hack the Dems.
Btw – are they still refusing to turn over Hillary’s secret server to the FBI?
harkin (de269f) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:19 pmIn the long run Pappy Prez can always pardon his Punky Booster.
“Climb up on my knee, Sonny Boy…” Al Jolson ‘Sonny Boy’ 1928
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:29 pmWhere they have it, I like it. It’s actually a five or six-lane stretch of road, where a lot of people turn off into shopping centers, housing developments, cemeteries, or for another example my church, without stoplights or stop signs for at least half a mile or more, and the center lane serves both as a left-turn lane, and as a safety lane to merge into left-direction traffic.
Think it’s the “left” part that makes it objectionable to the Right? 😉
nk (dbc370) — 7/10/2017 @ 8:36 pmThat’s a “CLHTL” continuous left-hand turn lane, which a big portion of my commute Grand Avenue in Waukegan is in need of with all its strip malls and ethnic grocery outlets being to the left in PM rush going West. Can be used in a 3 or a 5 lane configuration. Road diets are iffy but I’ve adjusted, particularly in the City proper where you gotta watch for bikes more so than cars (thanks a lit, Rahm)…I like the addition of countdown timers at crosswalks (helps me choose if decide to beat a red light).
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:05 pmThe facts will lead wherever they lead but if the 3 WH officials who talked to the press at the beginning of the article are the same “some people in the WH had known for several days after [the meeting] had occurred because Mr Kushner had revised his foreign contact disclosure form to include it” we have yet another disclosure of protected information that would normally be under the custody and control of the WH counsel and FBI liaison, I believe. Of course it’s always possible the WH wanted it to get out now for some reason.
crazy (11d38b) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:25 pmhttp://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/shock-child-caught-walking-around-chicagos-south-side-gun-video/
mg (31009b) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:31 pmget control of your kid, nk.
Kids need guns if there are creeps like Gatewaypundit hanging around videoing them.
nk (dbc370) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:33 pmsaddle up cowboy
mg (31009b) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:35 pmAt this point in the “fake news” cycle, only someone who really doesn’t have enough to occupy his time would think that yet another anonymous source might be of any interest at all.
tom swift (cc4f65) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:50 pmAssume there are four countries — Alpha, Bravo, Charlie & Delta. Alpha and Bravo share a border and have a history of conflict, but they’re currently in an uneasy peace.
Charlie & Delta border neither Alpha nor Bravo, but Charlie & Delta are already at war with each other. Charlie, in fact, has been pushed to the brink already, and so Charlie very much wants to enlist Alpha as an ally against Delta, even though in the distant past, Alpha and Charlie were themselves adversaries who’d often been rivals and occasionally gone to war against one another. For its part, Alpha has previously been reluctant to get involved in the Charlie-Delta war, and indeed, many citizens inside Alpha actually prefer Delta to Charlie. Delta, knowing all this, has done its best to persuade Alpha to stay on the sidelines, with considerable success for several years.
Delta watched nervously as Alpha conducts its regular presidential elections. After the election, but before the inauguration, Delta sends a secret message to Bravo which warns Bravo that Delta is about to start doing some stuff that is really going to make Alpha mad:
Intelligence agents from Charlie intercept a copy of the secret message, but for a time, Charlie just sits on the message. In particular, Charlie decides not to pass along any advance warning to Alpha that Delta is about to start doing the stuff that everyone knows will probably make Alpha very angry.
Sure enough, as predicted, Charlie’s misbehavior does make Alpha pretty mad — just not quite mad enough to cause Alpha to declare war against Delta and to join in an alliance with Charlie. Weeks go by.
Desperate to shake things up, Charlie decides to go ahead and give the message to Alpha — specifically, to the person who just one Alpha’s presidential election and is waiting for his inauguration. The message promptly changes that guy’s mind, pushing him off his stubborn neutrality and onto the warpath against Delta. And sure enough, within a month after the Alpha inauguration, the Alpha president does indeed secure and publish a formal declaration of war against Delta from Alpha’s government.
Did Alpha’s president-elect do anything wrong by listening to Charlie and accepting the gift of this intelligence of Delta’s attempted collusion and conspiracy with Bravo? Mind you, Charlie passed the information along to Alpha out of purely selfish motives, not out of any particular concern for how Bravo and Alpha have been getting along. Even in passing the information along to Alpha, Charlie has kept secret some details about how it came by the message, and other details it’s frankly lied about and fabricated in order to protect Charlie’s intelligence sources and methods. If you’re an Alphan who has previously been partial to Delta and Deltans, should you seek the impeachment of the newly inaugurated Alphan president on grounds that he’s been secretly colluding with Charlie?
‘Cause all that actually happened: Alpha was the U.S., Bravo was Mexico, Charlie was the Brits, and Delta was the Kaiser’s Germany. The president-elect was Woodrow Wilson — although this was his reelection and the inauguration that began his second term, after his successful 1916 campaign on the slogan, “He kept us out of war.” The secret message was the Zimmerman Telegraph, and it was the proximate cause of America’s entry into WW1 on the Allied side.
I think it’s pretty hard to generalize about whether and when contacts between a campaign, or a transition team, and another country are per se improper. It all depends. The Zimmerman Telegram was authentic, and it was indeed of spectacular importance to American foreign policy. But there’s no doubt that the Brits were ruthlessly promoting and protecting British interests in their timing and handling of the disclosure.
If the Russians actually had something real and authentic that revealed treachery or malfeasance by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, I don’t necessarily see a problem with the Trump campaign or Trump transition team agreeing to listen. But if there were anything substantive to the communications, it might very well have created, on the part of the Trump campaign or transition team, a moral, legal, or even constitutional duty to immediately pass that information on for consideration and action by the then-still-in-power American government. Without knowing the premises under which the meeting was set up, and without knowing everything that was said in it, and everything that was done (or deliberately left undone) afterwards, though, I don’t think one can draw any confident conclusions.
I say that not to defend Trump, but to point out that weakness in his opponents’ logic and arguments so far.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:57 pmErrata #29: “specifically, to the person who just won [not “one”] Alpha’s presidential election …”
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/10/2017 @ 9:59 pmExcept the dossier might very well the,Zimmerman telegraph of the zinoviev letter, at the time of the former the u2s had been involved in anti banditry operation that included future general patton.
narciso (d1f714) — 7/10/2017 @ 11:10 pmBeldar,
Sure enough, as predicted, Charlie’s misbehavior does make Alpha pretty mad.
Don’t you mean Delta’s misbehavior?
norcal (2adf03) — 7/10/2017 @ 11:15 pmI keep reading these supposedly earthshattering revelations, and I don’t hear the earth shattering kaboom.
Indeed, I often feel like people are reading these with ominous minor chords playing on an organ in the background to get themselves in the mood.
So someone floated “dirt” on Hillary, supposedly claiming that the ‘source’ was Russian government of some sort, but the “dirt” never showed up and/or was never sold to Jr. in a convincing enough manner to get him to bite.
SPQR (a3a747) — 7/10/2017 @ 11:21 pmI know it had been seventy years since the us,and Mexico clashed but the memories still run hot, a decade later the us out a,stop to the cristero rebellion lead by gorostieta obe of villas fmr generals
narciso (d1f714) — 7/10/2017 @ 11:21 pmIt’s very odours spar, now which datum was really that enticing vekselberg, Michael Friedman the rusatom story was old news
narciso (d1f714) — 7/10/2017 @ 11:23 pmnarciso, I do not understand your comments at all.
SPQR (a3a747) — 7/10/2017 @ 11:34 pmOnce again, Ds fall for a phishing scam, Rs don’t. Scandalous!
Steve Malynn (9731d3) — 7/11/2017 @ 4:19 amNow Junior’s lawyer is news? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/07/11/the-many-talents-of-donald-trump-jr-s-attorney-a-juilliard-trained-trombonist-and-lawyer-for-mobsters/?utm_term=.1d37ab4142f3
The more I read the MSM, the more I want Trump to body-slam them and pound their heads into the floor. Literally or figuratively, I leave it up to him.
nk (dbc370) — 7/11/2017 @ 4:29 amI was concurring, there were much bigger fish in the Russian pond:
narciso (d1f714) — 7/11/2017 @ 4:52 amdailycaller.com/2017/07/10/everybody-is-forgetting-that-clinton-allies-did-the-same-thing-as-don-jr/?utm_source=site-share
Note the tag
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/07/alabama_probate_judge_named_to.html
narciso (d1f714) — 7/11/2017 @ 5:16 amOK — Here is where we seem to be:
1. The dynamic trio that leaked news of DJT Jr’s meeting re Hillary dirt also leaks that Trump Jr was told that the person he was talking with was connected with the Russian government.
2. DJT Jr took the meeting, invited Manafort and Kushner. We don’t know that he briefed them on anything, but presumably he would have given them some reason why they needed to take time out of insanely busy days.
3. The meeting was deemed useless by DJT, Jr.
4. Nobody seems to have thought to tell the FBI about this meeting until it was time to answer security clearance questions.
Does this show collusion? No. Does this show a willingness to get dirt from the Russians? Yep.
Where does this go? I would work under a couple theories.
(1) The Russians would follow up — the Trumps have shown a willingness to get campaign dirt from Russia for free. Are they willing to pay some kind of price for campaign dirt?
(2) The Trump campaign might follow up. We only have DJT, Jr’s word for how the meeting went. A carrot may well have been dangled in front of him.
I have seen a third theory — that this looks a lot like an FBI sting operation. I really hope not. Comey and the FBI were way too involved in the 2016 election as it was, and playing honesty test games with the campaign of a presumptive presidential nominee staffed by amateurs with a hazy knowledge of campaign law would have been very wrong.
Appalled (96665e) — 7/11/2017 @ 5:25 ameven a bottom-feeding lowlife fbi turdboy like Robert Mueller can’t find anything to work with here
you know what that means
gotsta HIRE MOAR HARVARDTRASH
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/11/2017 @ 5:28 am41 – Appalled – don’t forget one of the names in the Times’ byline: Maggie Haberman.
The Podesta emails vouched for her loyalty to the DNC:
“We have had her tee up stories for us before and have never been disappointed……we think we can achieve our objective and do the most shaping by going to Maggie. ”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/static.theintercept.com/amp/exclusive-new-email-leak-reveals-clinton-campaigns-cozy-press-relationship.html
harkin (de269f) — 7/11/2017 @ 5:51 amBATH KILLS TEEN, Connection to Trump Campaign Russia Collusion Not Foreclosed Governmental Officials Say
Present and former government officials declined to state that the unprecedented death of a teenage girl in her bathtub was not connected to the Kremlin. “We will likely have more definite information as the investigation develops”, one former official said speaking on the condition of anonymity. Efforts to reach him for further comment were unsuccessful as he had not given The Washington Post his name or telephone number.
nk reporting for The Washington Post (dbc370) — 7/11/2017 @ 5:59 amUPDATE: BATH KILLS TEEN, Cellphone Could Be Smoking Gun As Russian Connections Deepen
nk reporting for The Washington Post (dbc370) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:03 amI’m beginning to wonder whether happyfeet got a rejection letter from Harvard twenty years ago.
Leviticus (e53afc) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:03 am“I’m beginning to wonder whether happyfeet got a rejection letter from Harvard……
Asian with only 400 pts higher SAT score than a black who was admitted eh?
https://www.google.com/amp/observer.com/2015/06/asian-americans-are-indeed-getting-screwed-by-harvard-but-not-how-they-think/amp/
harkin (de269f) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:10 ammama pikachu didn’t raise no harvardtrash no way no how mister
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:20 amDriving up for your admissions interview in Cadillac “El Camino” with longhorns might give Harvard that message as well.
nk (dbc370) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:33 amNarciso, you could be making the point that lingering anger over Villas raids and chase (Deming, NM) caused a reaction that killed a chance for Mexico to strangle the Beta Trotskyite PRI in its crib.
urbanleftbehind (3538cb) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:37 amIf you drive up to a Chi-Fil-A in one of those, today, you’ll get a free entree.
nk (dbc370) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:38 amI don’t do free food days, too much chance of undercooking.
urbanleftbehind (3538cb) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:42 amthat’s a beautiful car
this is kinda beautiful too in its own way
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:42 am…until it ends up in Narciso or Kishnevi’s living room.
urbanleftbehind (3538cb) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:45 amThe real purpose of this story may have been to provide a pretext for investigating Junior and demanding document production before testifying before the investigating committees. Simply explaining one email is never going to satisfy the never-ending waves of suspicion.
crazy (11d38b) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:48 amso do you think the nyt is working hand-in-hand with Republican Main Street bimbo Susan Collins?
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:50 amActuall, I think HF would have been rejected in favor of another POC with a more “dramatic” home life. I learned early in that process (with regard to ethnic scholarships) I couldn’t beat the multi-sibling children of migrant workers head-on. My high ACT through self-prep and listing of Jack Wambaugh novel sunk me in their eyes.
urbanleftbehind (3538cb) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:51 amWorking with? No. Playing? They do that daily
crazy (11d38b) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:55 amI could but I was putting a different spin on that. The interesting thing is what is left out of the story.
narciso (880ffc) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:56 amI know that little girl! I saw her at the pet store. She looked up at the owner with her big brown eyes:
nk (dbc370) — 7/11/2017 @ 6:59 am“Mister,” she said in a quiet voice, “I would like a little bunny rabbit”.
The owner looke down at her with a smile. “And what type of bunny rabbit would you like?” he asked. “A brown little bunny rabbit or a white little bunny rabbit or a black little bunny rabbit?”
“Mister,” the little girl said, “I don’t think my python gives a sh!t.”
You win the case of rigatoni, crazy.
narciso (880ffc) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:01 amMr. nk and also Mr. narciso
I think you’ll enjoy this
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:05 amha I’m sharing your joke with the guy that sent me that link
happyfeet (28a91b) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:06 am60. Thank you for such a heart-warming story nk.
Tillman (a95660) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:33 amYou’re welcome.
nk (dbc370) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:36 amScott Johnson over at Powerline has a nice summary of “today’s installment of the collusion comedy”:
“There is no evidence that the Russian lawyer had damaging information to deliver. There is no evidence that the Russian lawyer delivered damaging information. There is no evidence that Trump Jr. asked the Russian lawyer to come back with damaging information. There is no evidence that Trump Jr. would have promised the Russian lawyer anything if she had agreed to return with damaging information. There is no evidence that Trump Jr. came away from the meeting with anything but disappointed expectations.
Is this some kind of a joke?”
ThOR (c9324e) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:37 amIt was inevitable that someone on the left would bring up treason:
Dana (023079) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:41 amJohnson also points us to the real story:
“Comey asserted in his testimony that he viewed the memos of his conversations with the president in Comey’s capacity as FBI Director as his personal property. This is absurd. Of that much we can be certain. Even he couldn’t believe that. His testimony on this point therefore detracts from his credibility as a witness. It shows his facility as a liar while performing the role of a stand-up leader of law enforcement. . . Comey’s behavior is reprehensible.”
The only law breaking that has been demonstrated throughout the “collusion” farce is that perpetrated by the #NeverTrumpers in a conspiracy that reaches into the highest level of our government. For them, nothing is beyond the pale.
ThOR (c9324e) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:47 amcrazy:
In our system, most political actors have an angle other than “getting at the truth”. So what?
DJT Jr. did the meeting. The meeting was with a representative of a government that is a strategic adversary about getting dirt on an opponent. Sorry, I actually want my government to be interested in these kind of contacts. If the other country were, say, Mexico or China, you’d probably care too.
Appalled (96665e) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:47 amWhen the head of the FBI is a participant in a conspiracy to overthrow a duly elected President, a discussion of treason should be front and center.
ThOR (c9324e) — 7/11/2017 @ 7:50 amJoe McCarthy’s name became synonymous with over-the-top Russian conspiracy mongering, ruining his reputation for generations to come. Kudos for Senator Joe for giving us such an enduring epithet: “McCarthy-esque.” To quote from Wikipedia:
“Today, the term is used in reference to what are considered demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents.”
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
ThOR (c9324e) — 7/11/2017 @ 8:02 amAppalled, I understand your concern and agree that all wrongdoers should be held accountable regardless of political persuasion or connections but I am more wary of over-investigation and over-criminalizing one’s political adversaries than you seem to be. We need a return to the rule of law not the rule of cronies. Post Watergate there’s been way too much of that. We’ll see what happens. Junior just decided to release the entire email chain himself rather than wait for somebody else to report selectively on it.
Kushner’s omission on his SF-86 led to Junior’s meeting leading to demands for more investigation and today’s document production. They’re not close enough to Trump, yet. Be patient. It shouldn’t be much longer. After all, how could this take place without Trump’s knowledge they’ll soon be screaming…
crazy (11d38b) — 7/11/2017 @ 8:30 amBeldar,
That would probably have been more effective with the real countries names. As it was, it confused me, and in places it confused you.
Kevin M (752a26) — 7/11/2017 @ 9:19 amJunior just decided to release the entire email chain himself rather than wait for somebody else to report selectively on it.
Transcripts? How… nostalgic. In blue binders with embossed gold lettering, too?!
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Today’s Beldar The Bitter ‘Watergate, Watergate, Watergate’ Words of Wonder:
“Good. Good deal! Play it tough. That’s the way they play it and that’s the way we are
DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/11/2017 @ 1:31 pmgoing to play it.” – President Nixon discussing Watergate cover up strategies dealing with the press and investigators w/top aides, secret White House Oval Office tapes, January 23, 1973
@ Kevin M (#73): Yup.
@ norcal (#32): Yup. Delta=Deutschland.
The defendant pleads guilty to being too cute for his own good. It’s a fair cop.
Beldar (fa637a) — 7/11/2017 @ 5:25 pm