Professor Under Attack Is Defended By William Jacobson
I can’t do it justice, but this post is worth your attention. A lot of people at my alma mater have been involved in a smear campaign against a conservative pro-free market professor — and Bill Jacobson is fighting back. I’ve seen this kind of thing happen to people I know and it heartens me to see pushback. Any support you can give this guy would be appreciated, I’m quite sure.
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]
Ding.
Patterico (115b1f) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:27 amwouldn’t letting grad students unionize be a great way to hasten the implosion of these sad failing institutions
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:29 amNo good deed goes unpunished, previously they had rabkin who went over to George mason.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:32 amAnything that 1) makes professors work more than three hours a week for six-figure salaries while all their grad students do all the work for the same rate as Chinese child labor and 2) breaks up the harem mentality that passes for mentoring in graduate programs is a good thing. But if the graduate students want equity, they should do equity. False smears make them less deserving of consideration.
nk (dbc370) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:30 amProfessor exercising free speech……violence.
Seattle councilwoman calling for law-breaking……free speech, must be supported.
http://www.kiro7.com/news/local/wsp-captain-sawants-call-to-shut-down-highways-on-may-day-irresponsible/516511577
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And oh yeah, they gave city employees May Day off (with pay!) and told them to protest Trump.
http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/27/seattle-gives-city-workers-time-off-to-a
harkin (517285) — 4/28/2017 @ 9:52 amA tenured prof, chem dept head—not economics, history or political science– spills out a beaker full of his ivory-towered-solution of free-market blather and wonders why the mess warrants a clean up.
“I didn’t like being someone else.” – Professor Julius Kelp/Buddy Love [Jerry Lewis] ‘The Nutty Professor’ 1963
DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/28/2017 @ 10:37 am6 – so pure.
Condemn the man exercising free speech, not those who attempted to smear him.
harkin (a76a32) — 4/28/2017 @ 10:54 amQuite a thing… and good for Prof. Jacobson.
And DCSCA, my friend, you need to extract your head from that dank, dark, aromatic location and wake the EFF up.
Colonel Haiku (74754c) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:20 amSour grapes from strawberry boy.
DCSCA must feel particular sting from being done by an honest chemist.
Don’t think of it as defeat of defacto minimum wage. Think of it as full employment for teacher’s aides. š
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:20 amI saw a thing on government intervention in the economy by Thomas Sowell that sort of applies to this situation.
Worst President Ever [YouTube]
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:33 am@8Tenured chem prof spouts free market blather. That’s the eye opener, Haiku. Blink and see.
@9. An ‘honest chemist’… Free market rules: the only black guy on ‘Breaking Bad’ sold fried chicken and meth. Tuck in that shirttail.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:35 ammeth people don’t even eat fried chicken
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:43 amMeth people don’t have teeth. Instead of chewing. they do a lot of shirt tail tucking and blinking.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:55 ambe cool stay in school
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:03 pm11. Speaking of honest chemists near elite campuses (University of Chicago):
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:10 pmhttp://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170427/hyde-park/zachary-padove-hazmat-home-brewing-death-distillery
@13. Swabbos.
“Navy man.” – Frank Borman, audio loop after Jim Lovell accidentally discharged a CO2 cartridge inflating his life preserver aboard Apollo 8 enroute to the moon – 1968.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:14 pmoh sh–, someone took another errant champagne cork…real cool, DC š
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:19 pm11. Speaking of honest chemists near elite campuses (University of Chicago):
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20170427/hyde-park/zachary-padove-hazmat-home-brewing-death-distillery
urbanleftbehind
If he were nearby I’d dress up as the Grim Reaper and crash the funeral.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:21 pmSounds like the kind who would appreciate the effort.
Obligatory Pantera, pre-Black Album Metallica or Megadeth as the background music?
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:22 pmLook at DCSCA’s garbage on this thread and remember, many of you sided against Conservatives and with him during Primary season.
John Hitchcock (4eaa02) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:23 pm@20. Other way ’round. Hitch. But backazzwards has been the mindset of the conservative ideologue since 1776.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:47 pmNo good deed….
http://theweek.com/speedreads/695426/heritage-foundation-president-jim-demint-who-moved-think-tank-closer-trump-set-ousted-by-board
Actually my pick for Romney’s running mate in 2012
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/28/2017 @ 12:59 pm21 DCSCA – “…..backazzwards has been the mindset of the conservative ideologue since 1776.”
The Democrats were spouting that line nine almost nine decades later when the Republicans freed their slaves.
harkin (70fe68) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:06 pmThe left will never stop. Only full submission to their Big Brother style of control.
NJRob (5f6681) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:23 pmpropaganda sluts have taken their profession to the very very bottom of public esteem and respect
and these trash fascists at the universities, they’re gonna end up in the same place
and people will say well you only have yourselves to blame
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:34 pmAnd yet, somehow, the Republicans are now the party of confederate apologists
Davethulhu (fab944) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:40 pmit’s like when your sleazy fascist perverted mitt romney government threatens you with exorbitant fines for not buying crappy high-deductible health insurance you can’t afford to use
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:43 pmWhich is to say Confederates in the Confederate Army were as much and more so enslaved by the same government that demanded they fight to preserve slavery.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:55 pmReally? How so when it’s the Democrats who run the inner city ghettos as their alternative plantations to exploit blacks for votes? Now they want “sanctuary cities” so they can pump them full of illegals just in time for the next Census knowing that since representatives and electoral votes are based on number of people not number of citizens they can continue to steal elections.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ARjM1uolkgQ/WPY7RnSlooI/AAAAAAABg5Y/YAKzbqgBxH8GWqqP7gbEmsVjb9wefCUHgCLcB/s640/ebf66fcf7aff7ff64ebae06ecd798d4455ebb3cda9dcd2ab4142c17f99eea5e5.jpg
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:55 pmDidn’t matter that a majority wanted no part of slavery when the Democrat elites were it’s benefactors.
Same situation we have here with the ACA.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 1:59 pmInteresting that you think black people have no agency.
Any effect of this is overwhelmed by the effects of republican gerrymandering.
Actually I’m referring to the confederate flag flying white supremacists that infest the current Republican party.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 4/28/2017 @ 2:05 pm[citation needed]
Davethulhu (fab944) — 4/28/2017 @ 2:16 pmAre you meaning their Democrat exploiters?
Gerrymandering was invented by Democrats. Or are you implying only Republicans use the tactic? Either way that is the typical disingenuousness of a Democrat.
Nobody can stop anybody from “infesting” a party. In your case it’s black racists, moslem terrorists, communists, antifa Nazis and socialist baby killers who infest yours.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ibnt1PdvKjY/WQKhb5_U2FI/AAAAAAABI2Q/Tcvrk2mCNqEblKVwGmIWtOd8IVaZa77igCLcB/s1600/1%2B1ninetymileswlJWP1vqa6rso1_1280.jpg
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 2:18 pmIf you’re gonna play “[citation needed]” this game prepare for constant challenges.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1b7w-YzfmHo/WOSzlFKt1_I/AAAAAAABgg0/f2UkdELUHiEIjx9kPo2xdUQcZRCiOG_fACLcB/s1600/29G5Blb.jpg
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 2:24 pmjohn f kennedy was a nasty low-class pig-bigot just like his lowlife daddy
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 2:57 pmI’m glad we agree that confederates now consider themselves Republicans.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:02 pmi wish i was in the land of cotton old times there are not forgotten
up here i keep getting corn bread served on me what has actual kernels of corn
that’s so stupidly literal
midwest people god love em
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:07 pmNothing changes the fact that southerners who owned slaves and their children and grandchildren who terrorized blacks during Jim Crow days were all democrats.
But if your best false equivalence is to compare those actions with flying a flag, so be it.
That must mean all the rioters sporting hammers and sickles seek to murder millions of their own countrymen, right?
harkin (a76a32) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:08 pmHere’s a vivid description of confederates.
It that the South they’re describing, or Berkeley California? Hard to tell nowadays.
Heard about any speech codes lately? Any stridency in political thought? Any news networks being boycotted for wrongthink?
Here’s your link.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:18 pmhttp://www.civilwar.org/education/history/civil-war-overview/why-non-slaveholding.html?referrer=https://www.bing.com/
You mean like those “white supremacists” who would paint or fly the confederate flags from their tanks during WWII, who then went on to liberate concentration camps from the Nazis? The Sons of the South who helped liberate Buchenwald, Dachau, and Muttenwald were KKK? Is that what you’re saying?
Or like this Marine hoisting the stars and bars during the Battle for Okinawa?
http://www.ww2incolor.com/us-marines/PICT4908.html
Anybody who knows older Okinawans know that the Marines and Army types who liberated them from the Japanese were extraordinarily grateful. Okinawan EPWs (who had been forced into service, just like the comfort women) were allowed to serve coffee to their families during visits. They’d fill the disposable coffee cups to just below the brim with sugar and then pour the thinnest of veneers of coffee over the top. The family members were allowed to leave at the end of the permissible visit with their coffee. They’d dry it in the sun and sell the sugar (a lot of sugar is grown in Okinawa now, but during the battle and in the immediate aftermath you couldn’t exactly farm due to the ordnance flying around or lying unexploded in the fields). The lucky Okinawans were those who had relatives incarcerated in American POW camps. They had a lifeline. The first thing many Okinawans would do when they were released for American POW camps would be apply for a job with US forces. And get them.
A lot of them were Southerners, like that Marine raising the Confederate battle flag. They knew what was going on, and they allowed, even encouraged, it. Later many of them married Okinawan and Japanese women, although that was officially discouraged by both US and Japanese authorities. Are you now calling them racists?
Anyone who buys into the idiocy about the confederate flag being a racist/white supremacist symbol because only one opinion, the leftist one, counts has opened the door to every kind of idiocy.
Dave, you are the problem. I suppose you’re for tearing down monuments to Thomas Jefferson because he owned slaves. The man who wrote the Declaration of Independence must not be honored simply because he was a man of his times.
You’re like a dragonfly. If you put the abdomen (the tail) of a dragonfly into its mouth it will start eating itself. Unlike you, Dave, I don’t do that. I am not a slave to the cultrural Marxist notion that because the men and women who shaped Western Civilization’s history weren’t 100% pure as the driven snow we have to tear it down.
The Confederate flag is not a racist symbol. It was once, it had evolved into something else by at least the 1940s. The sons of the South who liberated liberated the concentration camps and the Ryukyus (and really the Japanese themselves) were not racists or “white supremaciststs.” That’s just a cultural Marxist myth that you are perpetuating.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:22 pmLeviticus was the Gospel preached at Southern non slave holders. With all the fervency of global warming believers.
What’s in that book?
Heck if I know.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:27 pmThe so called free speech movement were attacks on bourgeous cinvebtions
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:31 pmpapertiger (c8116c) ā 4/28/2017 @ 1:52 pm
I always enjoy a little Shakespear. Henry V is a good choice, thanks.
papertiger (c8116c) ā 4/28/2017 @ 1:55 pm
I completely agree with your statement – and even if the passage from Henry V does not mean the same to me, as it does to you, I laud you nonetheless.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:32 pmWho hasn’t wanted to give the rebel yell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdphvuyaV_I
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:36 pmIts about rules and obligations
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2018
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:39 pm#41
i’m super-glad that mr steve57 plays for our team
he really took dragonfly dave to school
hey dragonfly dave
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:43 pmnext time class is in session, you better show your appreciation to schoolmaster steve by leaving a shiny red apple on his desk
Steve57, One of the most interesting of whiskies I have ever tried was Rebel Yell.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:46 pmIt never failed to cause, in me, an involuntary discharge of saliva. I called it the “drool whiskey.”
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) ā 4/28/2017 @ 3:43 pm
I second that, CS.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:47 pmIt’ll probably be poisoned.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:48 pmI’m glad we agree Democrats now consider themselves communists. After all the entire Communist Party USA officially supported Hillary for president. Must make her a phukin commie by your logic of association. And they had the choice of Sanders who was openly a socialist but found Hillary more to their communist theory and liking. Now that’s saying something.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 3:59 pmI’m always thankful for Steve57’s comments. The man is a Patriot in the true sense of the word.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:01 pmIt’s about TGIF!!! Aarrrrrggggggg! https://youtu.be/5P62YyApSKA
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:03 pmDitto rev
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:19 pmThanks for that link, Colonel. I exclaimed, “look how young they are!” then I remembered hearing my parents saying such things about Eddie Cantor and others, Now I know how they felt. Feels good.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:21 pmSaipan was the first island the Marines and the Navy encountered where there was a large civilian population. There were PAO outfits assigned the mission of getting the Japanese civilian population, at least, to surrender.
These units didn’t get a lot of official support. Often they had to spend their own recreation funds on loudspeakers, and rely on Honolulu newspapers to print leaflets.
The lack of support didn’t have anything to do with racism. The fighting forces simply didn’t believe you could get the Japanese to surrender.
That changed when the Japanese civilians began to commit suicide en mass. Everyone, Navy and Marine, was horrified and disgusted. I realize the Marines had to deal with the brunt of it, but off “Suicide Cliff” naval vessels had to send divers over the side when the corpses befouled the screws.
It affected all of them who witnessed it, for life. I invite Dave to Voxsplain me the racism that followed when the Marines, many from the South, lent their wholehearted support to mission of saving Japanese lives.
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/sep/06/local/me-gabaldon6
US forces supported Guy Gabaldon, not at first, but soon. When it was obvious he was effective.
Again, I invite Dave to direct me to the white supremacy.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:28 pmRev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) ā 4/28/2017 @ 4:01 pm, I am but a shadow to you. And to my dad the sainted senior chief.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:33 pmhttp://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/confederate-flag-waving-trump-fan-chases-black-kids-on-bikes-and-menaces-drivers-with-bat-report/
http://www.myajc.com/news/local/douglas-county-confederate-flag-case-sentenced-lengthy-prison-terms/6cDtrxkl9Q7ILElPhGqd6O/
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/06/21/us/21website-web/21website-web-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg
Davethulhu (fab944) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:41 pmThe british labor party went on Such a Marxist jag in the 80s
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:42 pmwhite supremers remind me of dairy queen
there’s one over kinda by the fountain on wabash but i never been
but someday i’m a go
and I’m a put paid to them white supremers and have me a hunger buster
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:45 pmI’m going to need to head Dave off at the pass.
How many Silver Stars do you have? John Schwabe was Gabaldon’s CO on Saipan. It’s actually not really an insult if you get the Silver Star despite being recommend for the MoH. It’s still a heroism reward.
Again, point me to “white supremacism.” Just not seeing it.
Oh, and keep in mind it was the Marines and the Army types on Saipan receiving those EPWs. If you don’t know what that means, feel free to ask me.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:48 pm@Dave, yeah, nice try. That’s not what I asked you. But it’s what I expected. You to try and change the subject.
What I asked is, is an Army tanker who liberated Dachau or a Marine who liberated Okinawa while flying the Confederate flag a racist?
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 4:52 pmnice find, Col
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:00 pmhttps://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/04/28/sen-warren-is-selling-she-persisted-pussyhats-n2319886
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:03 pmpooping bull
I don’t mean this to imply any credit to me. I learned a lot from my WWII era dad. I learned a lot from Vietnam era vets like you. To the degree that information is passed along, the country is safer.
I am nothing but a mailman.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:06 pmIt’s entirely possible that they were victims of Lost Cause propaganda. Modern Confederates have no such excuse.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:12 pmGreat. The real issue is ROE.
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:14 pmhttp://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/04/27/us-army-search-new-762mm-rifle.html
They were winning, Dave. From Dachau to Okinawa.
Try again. Try to be sane. If possible.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:15 pm“Even as the nation celebrates the passage of the 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act, some liberals are using the occasion to bash Republicans as inheriting the legacy of Jim Crow ā ignoring the fact that a higher percentage of Republicans in Congress voted for the Civil Rights Act than did Democrats. President Obama recently accused the GOP of waging an all-out assault on voting rights. Speaking to a group founded by Al Sharpton, that non-paragon of racial healing, Obama claimed: āThe stark simple truth is this: The right to vote is threatened today. . . . This recent effort to restrict the vote has not been led by both parties. Itās been led by the Republican party.ā Leaving aside the fact that clear majorities of both African Americans and Hispanics support voter integrity measures such as showing voter ID at the polls, Obama is using incendiary rhetoric in an area where reasonable people can disagree. The American Civil Rights Union, a conservative group that has filed suit in favor of voter-integrity measures, has had enough of such tactics. Its leaders include former attorney general Ed Meese and former Ohio secretary of state Ken Blackwell. ACRU has just published a booklet on the real history of Jim Crow. Available for free at TheTruthAboutJimCrow.org, it sets the record straight on a hidden racial past that many Democrats would rather see swept under the carpet. While Richard Nixonās āSouthern Strategyā is constantly referenced in the media as a tool to attract white voters, less well remembered are Woodrow Wilsonās segregation of the entire federal civil service; FDRās appointment of a member of the KKK to the Supreme Court; John F. Kennedyās apathy toward civil-rights legislation; and the rise of Robert Byrd, a former member of the KKK, to the post of Democratic leader in the Senate in the 1980s. Is it fair to remind people of the awful historical antecedents that can lurk within a political party? The study quotes author Bruce Bartlett as asking, āIf the Republican party is to bear responsibility for Joe McCarthy through all time, why doesnāt the Democratic party have to bear responsibility for a century of racist leaders?ā The majority of the ACRU study focuses on the horror of Jim Crow, which at its core was a system of state-enforced laws that relegated blacks to inferior status. When police enforcement wasnāt enough, lynchings were used to keep Jim Crow in place. At least 3,500 blacks were lynched during the Jim Crow years, and people were murdered right up through the mid 1960s. But the political enforcement of Jim Crow was entirely in Democratic hands. The Ku Klux Klan functioned as the paramilitary wing of the Democratic party, and it was used to drive Republicans out of the South after the Civil War. Before he took up the cause of civil rights as president, Lyndon Johnson acting as Senate majority leader blocked the GOPās 1956 civil-rights bill, and gutted Eisenhowerās 1957 Civil Rights Act. Democratic senators filibustered the GOPās 1960 Civil Rights Act. Of course, scoring historical points shouldnāt take front place in todayās civil-rights efforts. Conservative efforts to reach out to African Americans must begin with appreciation and recognition of African Americansā history of subordination and oppression.”
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/383357/setting-record-straight-jim-crow-john-fund
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:16 pmIt’s really, really hard for me to buy into your BS given I actually know something about history.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:19 pmI don’t understand why you guys keep bringing up stuff from 50-100 years ago. I’m talking about people, right now, who display and defend the confederate flag. Modern Republicans would vote against the civil rights act. Modern confederates are republicans.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:23 pmDave, the very idea that you would consider a US Marine liberating Okinawa a “victim” of anything is indicative of your leftist mindset. Everybody’s a victim except when they’re not. Or when they’re white. Then they’re racist.
What on earth is a “modern Confederate”?
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:23 pmCitation? I’m a modern Republican and I wouldn’t vote against the Civil Rights Act. In case you don’t know in 1966-67 my sister and I marched for Civil Rights in the South through our church. That’s before your time Dave. We met hundreds of Democrats then too. With hoses and dogs.
I don’t know where you get your inside scoop on who modern Republicans would vote for but you better find someone more reliable.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:28 pmSvengali Dave is a cesspool of knowledge
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:30 pmš¦ tastic!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:32 pmDave, are you trying to put forward that mythological idea that at some unknown time the Democrats became champions of the blacks and the Republicans suddenly became racist? I have heard that silly nonsense before but somehow I don’t know one single Republican that got the memo. They must have “switched sides” somewhere between the Emancipation Proclamation and Jim Crow.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:34 pmdragonfly dave’s still angry at allan west
arent’cha, dave?
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:38 pmUhh, the intervening s*** is something called “history.” Keep demonstrating you are a freaking pathetic intellectual lightweight. I don’t mind.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:47 pmš¦ Squidtastic š
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:47 pmI’ve been through this, Dave. Maybe you’re not old enough to remember the Tailhook “scandal” of the early ’90s.
It was popular, i.e. career enhancing, to condemn the “misogynist culture” of Naval aviation.
I bucked the tide. I was intel. I served with aviators. They weren’t rapists and no force on earth could get me to say they were.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 5:57 pmIf you’re guilty, take NJP. If you’re innocent, take it to court martial.
Lesson learned from Tailhook.
http://articles.dailypress.com/1994-01-29/news/9401290094_1_gregory-e-tritt-tailhook-misconduct-tailhook-case
http://articles.latimes.com/1993-12-19/news/mn-3596_1_tailhook-scandal
Any questions?
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:06 pmThat flotilla is the gift that keeps on giving:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39741590
narciso (54b108) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:17 pmdragonfly dave, let’s discuss the anti-semitism which is so rampant among “the modern democrat party”
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:18 pmwe’ll allow you to make the opening volley
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2017/04/carr_island_swapping_kerry_hits_vineyard
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:25 pmDear John
We can test the theory.
“Black unemployment rates were lower than those of whites… [as long ago as] 1890.”
Intellectuals and Society – Thomas Sowell
People who were actually affected by the subordination and suppression of slavery in their own lifetime, were better off, more integrated, had more nuclear two parent families, than blacks do today after 50 years of the liberal welfare state.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:26 pmWhat is striking is u6 is back to December 1988 levels, ponder that notion
narciso (54b108) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:31 pmModern Republicans would vote against the civil rights act.
We can only hope modern Republicans would vote against the Kennedy/Johnson uncivil special privileges for special interests only Civil Rights Act of 1964.
But I have serious doubt any of them have the courage or common sense to do it.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:35 pm“What I asked is, is an Army tanker who liberated Dachau or a Marine who liberated Okinawa while flying the Confederate flag a racist?”
– Steve57
The answer, Steve, whether you want to address it or not, is “maybe.” The two things have nothing to do with each other.
Leviticus (e80149) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:38 pm2008, autocorrect has odd algorithm
narciso (54b108) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:38 pmYes, my question is why are you bringing this up? This has nothing to do with the arguments I’m making. You seem to believe that I’m anti-military, for some reason. My dad was in the Navy out of college, I served in the Air Force in the 80s, and my son is in the Navy right now.
I will point out, however, that Allen West took NJP.
Davethulhu (e5d834) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:41 pmCol. West was protecting his men.
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:44 pmThe contractor used to frame west turns later was hip deep in Abe ghraib
http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/28/documents-tie-berkeley-riot-organizers-to-pro-pedophilia-group-namblaa
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:48 pmWest wasn’t framed, he literally tortured an ally. He deserves to be in jail. One of the best things that Mattis has done is keeping West out of Trump’s adviser ranks.
āa commander who has lost his moral balance or has watched too many Hollywood moviesā – Gen Mattis on Allen West
Davethulhu (e5d834) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:53 pmCol. West shot a gun off next to a dune coons head trying to get info to save his mens lives, Svengali Dave. You ignorant slut.
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 6:59 pmNo, Dave. The question I asked you is this Marine guilty of a wrong attitude?
http://www.ww2incolor.com/us-marines/PICT4908.html
By the way, since your son is in the the Navy, here is someone he should know about.
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/bt1-andrew-gallagher-risked-his-life-to-save-others-aboard-uss-belknap/
Click on the link and look upon the damage. Which would have been much worse except for Boiler Technician Second Class (later promoted) Andrew Gallagher. Hopefully, you along with his chiefs and petty officers will impress upon him that everyone’s lives depend upon him doing his job. Not that I doubt you raised him right. But, Dave, click on the link and view the effect of just a moment’s inattention at sea.
I don’t hate you, Dave. I simply think you are wrong and wrong-headed.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:01 pmThanks for making my arguments for me.
Davethulhu (e5d834) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:02 pmsleazy useless Paul Ryan mostly just protects obamacare
he does it for his slurpy sodomite daddy mitt romney
he does it so good
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:06 pmrug headed terrorist work for you svengali dave?
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:07 pmHe said it with love in his heart.
Okay let me try again.
He said it a respectful lack of condescension.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:10 pmI am neutral-to-somewhat-supportive on the Confederate Flag out of courtesy and to avoid the slippery slope that would curtail my entertainment and drinking options in mid-September. And yes, tons of pics out there with that flag among servicemen in Afghanistan and Iraq. Nothing yet comparing to the valor and finality of triumph in the photos Steve57 has furnished for us.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:10 pmThese ingrates need to be exterminated by any means. I have lost too many friends because of sand dwellers beliefs. Time to vaporize the whole fricking clan.
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:11 pmDave, are you trying to put forward that mythological idea that at some unknown time the Democrats became champions of the blacks and the Republicans suddenly became racist? I have heard that silly nonsense before but somehow I donāt know one single Republican that got the memo. They must have āswitched sidesā somewhere between the Emancipation Proclamation and Jim Crow.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) ā 4/28/2017 @ 5:34 pm
Bold is mine.
I can tell you the exact moment ( according to the hive-mind of lefties) that occurred, Rev.
That moment was when David Duke “turned” Republican.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:15 pmI’m going to take this opportunity to remember an American hero, who deserves to be remembered, and the destroyer he save which as recently in the news.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/uss-mahan-fires-warning-flare-at-iranian-ship-sailing-off-iranian-coast/227250/
I have no idea what it means to fire a warning flare, as my generation fired warning shots. Be that as it may…
Attention to citation:
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=80612
I hope, maybe, that the Navy learned something from MAA2 Mayo’s selfless act.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:19 pm“Yes, my question is why are you bringing this up?”
He said without any hope of a clue.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:21 pmJust remember, guys, “there are no stupid questions.”
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:22 pmShooting back is encouraging.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:23 pmmy poor paraphrase..
From the movie Unforgiven.
Deputy one: Why are you loading so many guns? you got only one hand!
One armed deputy: I dob’t wanna die from lack O’ shootin’!
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:27 pmSenator Warren wants to cut some Republicans. Cut em open. Spill their guts on the ground. Bleed em.
There’s video.
And a webpage. http://100percentfedup.com/pocahontas-warren-wants-gops-scalptells-crowd-shed-like-to-cut-open-republicans-video/
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:30 pmIs there a hostile-workplace law that would work here? The environment is such that there are probably more than 3 conservative professors, but the rest are in the closet.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:33 pmurbanleftbehind (847a06) ā 4/28/2017 @ 7:10 pm
Be not afraid!
Not sayin’ you are, not sayin’ you aint, but maybe you get my drift.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:34 pmI see. felipe. Your keen understanding of the warped psyche of the opposition may come in handy in the future. I would never have put the David Duke=Republicans-turned-racists moment together. That’s why it’s good to discuss these things. You must be studying these clowns for years to be able to figure them out.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:38 pmIs there a hostile-workplace law that would work here?
Academia = workplace.
HAHaHAHAHA! Wait, yer serius? All due respect to Kishnevi, a true work-horse.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:38 pmThis is the continental version
https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/gorka-throws-down-gauntlet-challenges-fake-news-hecklers
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:43 pmI wish it were “studying,” in actuality (and I know you are with me), it is suffering.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:45 pmYes but they were attacking republicans a quarry century, goldwater’s vote on the civil rights act was the pretext
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:46 pmThat is true, narciso. No vacuum in history. Actual, not
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:52 pm“recorded.”“reported.”112.
???
Why are you invoking me? I haven’t set foot on a college campus in years, except once. Which was to hear the Jerusalem Quartet play at the local community college, and involved no interaction with students or staff.
kishnevi (b4162e) — 4/28/2017 @ 7:54 pmMy apologies, Kish, i am a clown, given to innocent mistakes. I stand corrected, and contrite.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:00 pmPrivate contractors should be running the war on terror. No pc required, just stack-em like cordwood.
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:10 pmCan you imagine private contractors with MOAB’s. Rock and Roll, svengali Dave.
That’s not actually true, mg, they have more latitude, but more exposure, and recall, Christopher steele is also a private contractor
narciso (d1f714) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:18 pmWTF? Is there a full moon again already?
nk (dbc370) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:23 pmI was “about” to say, “cue nk,” but he beat me to it!
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:25 pmNope. New moon. But it has the same effect.
nk (dbc370) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:28 pmI challenge nk to a battle of wits!
(fills two brandy glasses with an unknown liquid)
Watch as I shuffle these two snifters before your eyes!
Places one before nk, and one before felipe.
Felipe: you know the drill, choose!
(ha! they are both filled with Napoleon!) Enjoy!
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:32 pmTo your good health, felipe. Now ditch this Lost Cause of a thread.
nk (dbc370) — 4/28/2017 @ 8:41 pmDone.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/28/2017 @ 9:24 pmWhat nobody going to denounce Pocahontas? It’s all just good fun for her to talk about gutting republicans like a fish while her rental mob laughs like its the funniest joke they’ve ever heard?
Levi?
Dave?
Yeah. I don’t believe her either. Fake Indian.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/28/2017 @ 9:27 pmCarlson and dreyfus (Richard not julia) have a very respectful discussion
narciso (3a5153) — 4/28/2017 @ 9:28 pmLawyers run the war on terror. Not private contractors.
mg (31009b) — 4/28/2017 @ 9:33 pmThat was a good one, narciso. Duddy Kravitz has mellowed and he had some very keen insight to share. I wish there were many more just like him in that business… in the world, for that matter.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/28/2017 @ 10:31 pmAcademia = workplace.
HAHaHAHAHA!
If you have a cigarette, or are a member of a protected class, it’s a workplace.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/28/2017 @ 10:49 pmAhh see felipe is a srcappahh. He nees nahh mahh help. So I leave yahh with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AeV8Jbx6M
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:39 pmThat was me, in my best written Scots way.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/28/2017 @ 11:42 pmSpine tingling, Steve 57.
mg (31009b) — 4/29/2017 @ 3:08 amThank You.
We were grading on a curb but this another way they suppress free speech
http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/04/book-review-shattering-the-positive-blurbs-about-shattered
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:11 amThere is no legal, moral or free-market reason why grad students should not unionize. The 13th Amendment abolished indentured servitude and apprenticeship in addition to slavery. And the resurrectors of the free market would have considered them journeymen, no longer mere students or apprentices, entitled to a fair wage and a due level of respect.
nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:14 amIf youread Thomas newton’s backstory, you realize the power of those words
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:22 amThat’s like some hit take on quantico, where one senator said we used to speak of slavery, now its mass incarceration, and he’s the stock republican.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:35 amone fish
mg (31009b) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:43 amtwo fish
red fish
blue fish
I blame the Quakers. They invented prisons for long term incarceration. Prior to that, crimes that merited more than a short stint in jail, a fine or a whipping were punished by death, slavery or transportation/exile. Transportation and slavery were often combined. The Soviet gulags had their counterparts in the British colonies — from Virginia to the Caribbean to Australia.
nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:47 amYes and what purpose does that accomplish now, the lack of effective civic (as dreyfus points out) and moral education is the problem.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:01 amOne of the few things the mouse does right is Disney xd, so m looking forward to star trek rebels
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:08 amWell you know what I mean, it takes up sometime after battle of scarif
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:09 amI honestly believe that our criminal justice system has devolved into an industry for the employment and enrichment of its employees and not an institution for the protection of society and, likewise, academia has devolved into an industry for the benefit of its employees and not an institution of learning for the benefit of its students.
nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:11 amAnd the purpose of the defense bar is what again, but there is some truth to that.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:16 amAnd the purpose of the defense bar is what again
The same purpose Snidely Whiplash served alongside Dudley Do-Right while ABC raked in the children’s toy and breakfast cereal ad revenue?
nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:26 ammarvelously clever Mr. nk
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:33 amThank you, happyfeet.
nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:46 amWhereas the today show serves no useful purpose on Saturday’s in lieu of Saturday motni,g cartoins
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:00 amOther than without a defense the prosecutions job can be done by a high school dropout, the “purpose of the defense bar” is to make money for defense attorneys. Or do they work for free?
At the end of the day some people’s lives are ruined, others go to prison and the lawyers, both defense and prosecution meet at Spago for cocktails and to plan their judgeships.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:04 amHeh! I made my dentist’s receptionist turn it off in the waiting room one time.
nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:05 amYou got it, Hoagie. And our drinks are paid for by the prison guard union, the probation officer union, and the prison construction and management companies.
nk (dbc370) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:13 amI should add, it serves little purpose the rest if the week.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:15 amCan you tell I haven’t had good experiences with lawyers, nk? With all those decades in the restaurant business I’ve never been involved in a law suit on either side. My experience comes from trying to take in a foster child in the eighties and fighting for Asian immigrants more recently.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:43 amOh, and taxes. Lots and lots of taxes.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:44 amI live near a guy who retired at 54 as the CA prison guard. He’s set for life with a nice pension that was calculated using his final years when he piled up over time and had amassed huge vacation pay. His benefits include Cadillac medical and cost of living increases.
Not a bad exchange for allowing his union dues to help make CA a one-party state.
Multiply his setup by all the teachers, cops, hospital workers, DOT, etc. retirees and it’s easy to see why analysts say the growing spending on retired public workers is unsustainable. The retirees say so what, you promised these gold parachutes so keep paying and cut somewhere else (anyone seen the condition of state roads lately? Dams? Students’ test results?).
Oh yeah they are also trying to push through a new bill so that school teachers will not have to pay state income tax.
And why modernize dams when the governor believed as recently as Dec. that CA was in a “permanent drought” and ridiculed Trump for not knowing about it?
harkin (517285) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:47 amoh my goodness someone did a bunch of global warming all up in new mexico
and many more snowflakes is gonna be did on it this weekend
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:53 amHelp on the horizon for Dave teh Squid š. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8M4QDBUIAAe0-D.jpg
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/04/human-head-brain-transplants-coming-in-3-years-outlandish-surgeon-claims/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:59 amhey climate change slut Rick Perry i got your precious yummy Paris Agreement right here
good god rick if you were any dumber we’d have to slap a bra on you and call you Sarah Palin
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/29/2017 @ 9:02 amThat’s why I’m a big advocate for these transsexual types to freeze their balls and bats. One never knows when one might change one’s mind.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/29/2017 @ 9:05 amI think he’s back in on the Iain pills, besides who will tell china, tie stop doing that.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 9:05 amThis type of road trip would allow me to cross a few items off the bucket list…
mg (31009b) — 4/29/2017 @ 9:27 amhttps://kitup.military.com/2017/03/machine-gun.html
Re the erstwhile Marine Biologist from Jaws I think it isn’t until 50 or 55 years of age that the conservative/don’t have a brain axiom kicks in for Jewish men.
urbanleftbehind (83a1a4) — 4/29/2017 @ 9:56 amWhen I was young they had California State Requirements class instead of Civics I think. The instead of Civics is the source of speculation.
Not a good sign when a search for Civics class California brings up political advocacy sites instead of dot gov.
Not a good sign when the Superattendant of Schools (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Torlakson) is one of those career Democrats using the office as a term limit dodge after screwing the public to the limit in the assembly and senate.
He’s one of those lets drop the voting age to 16 types. Wants to get them voting early before they have a hope of finding a clue.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/29/2017 @ 12:12 pmOh, so you were for more Asian immigration.
Racist, that means you were against more African immigration.
And if you had tried to adopt an African child that would have been cultural appropriation. Bordering on imperialism and colonialism.
Just trying to channel the 21st century alt left. Who find our very existence offensive, and want to do something about it.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/29/2017 @ 1:42 pmAt the risk of getting it wrong, yet again.
Did I get it right. Simon? My memory flags these days.
felipe (023cc9) — 4/29/2017 @ 1:45 pmSitting here trying to work up the motivation to clean the swimming pool after high winds Friday, and I’m watching a film “Jimi Hendrix” that was released in 1973. Haven’t seen it since it was released.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/29/2017 @ 2:07 pmA tripan excursion down memory lane…You caught me Steve57. The boy we were taking in was in fact a black child. His mother had an abortion and he lived but was abandoned. By the time we got the child he was seven. That kid is a human sponge. He reads and learns everything. He wanted to become a marine mechanic and is one of the best. He has his own shop in OC Maryland now. Fine young man. Did a tour in the Army, married and has two girls. Oh, and he’s a black conservative. He calls Hillary the Sea Witch.
Actually right now I’m not for any immigration because of the way it’s being done. But I am a member od an organization that helps Asians so I help Asians. I try and get people who have something to bring to America a chance. And we have rules. They have to speak and read American English. They have to be self supporting and show financial responsibility. We don’t need to bring in people to put on welfare we have enough of hose of our own already. Above all they have to want to become American not live here and wave a Korean or Chinese flag. No hanminjog, Americans or nothing.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/29/2017 @ 2:44 pmThe USS Iowa in the panama Canal. Snug as a bug in a rug.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-B0cXnCuAyKU/WQTtrhdiTfI/AAAAAAABhNM/L5niPmIyBWoqCfXVBFBU58UQAp-L4c0awCLcB/s1600/daily_picdump_2498_43.jpg
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/29/2017 @ 2:53 pm@Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) ā 4/29/2017 @ 2:53 pm, the Japanese accurately predicted they could outgun the USN because the Americans had to maintain a two ocean navy and they didn’t. And that two ocean navy had to pass through the Panama Canal. Hence the Yamato and Musashi.
It’s odd when you think about it. In December 1941 the Japanese conducted a coordinated strike from six decks. It took years for the USN to become capable of the same thing. Yet the Japanese were fixated on destroying the USN in a gun battle. They didn’t grasp the lesson that the Americans took to heart looking at the smoking ruins of battleship row.
Aircraft carriers were the key to victory.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/29/2017 @ 3:19 pmHere’s a pic of the USS Yorktown (CV-10) transiting the Panama Canal.
http://www.czimages.com/CZMemories/Photos/CV-10_Yorktown.jpg
She was even a tighter fit than the Iowa. To get them through the Panama Canal Authority had to remove the lamp posts and many of the out buildings.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/29/2017 @ 3:32 pm“Them” being the Essex class carriers.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/29/2017 @ 3:44 pmMan, that is yuge! It is fascinating that the Japs didn’t realize the strategic and tactical enormity of the very attack they used to initiate the war. It must be one of those Asian things. I saw in Vietnam how close to our culture they can get yet they just don’t get it. Even my own wife and our many Korean, Vietnamese, Chinese and Japanese friends come close but just don’t seem to get it. But I must admit they keep trying. My wife always said that if it can’t be done an American will find a way to do it. She hasn’t said that in a long, long time. I sense there has been a change in The Force.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/29/2017 @ 4:37 pmHEH!
felipe (023cc9) — 4/29/2017 @ 5:24 pmYamamamoto did, having been lived here, for a time, as the moderate, navy minister among the control group, he warned them they couldn’t win.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/29/2017 @ 5:30 pmI caught that just in time, felipe!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:03 pm@Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) ā 4/29/2017 @ 4:37 pm, it wasn’t until 1943 or 1944 that the Japanese revised their naval doctrine to consider carriers as the capital ships of the navy, with all else including battleships as support. I’d have to some actual research to nail down the exact date.
This was of course too little too late.
I also appreciate you treating me as an equal. You walked the walk while I spent 20 years treading water. This is my poor segue to reintroducing a man who must be remembered. Because the USS Mahan is once again in the news.
http://wtkr.com/2017/04/26/norfolk-based-uss-mahan-forced-to-alter-course-by-iranian-vessel-acting-provocative/
If this reporting is accurate, it’s a disgraceful condemnation of the USN. The Navy fight sont says:
And she shifted her course. Disgraceful.
But one man connected with the USS Mahan didn’t shift his course. Attention to citation.
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=80612
I know I’ve mentioned him before. But I can’t mention him enough. If there’s one place a Sailor should feel safe and entertain the idea of being complacent it’s Norfolk. Yet Mark Mayo was ready.
So much BS is coming out of D.C. I’m almost ashamed I once was a naval officer. Almost. Until I remember Mark Mayo and the other Sailors like him. They weren’t products of D.C. directives. I am proud my Drill Instructor thought me good enough to lead them.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:14 pmIntel officers with real insight are praised Steve, not these political officers like price, haddad, and co.
http://libertyunyielding.com/2017/04/29/susan-rice-dems-basically-confirm-yeah-spied-trump-good-thing/
narciso (7fa266) — 4/29/2017 @ 6:20 pmNo, this is precisely the issue I want to address. It is in doubt, by your own admission of “maybe.”
In fact, you have already conceded my point.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/29/2017 @ 7:10 pmFree on Kindle: The Influence of Sea Power Upon History, 1660-1783, by A.T. Mahan, whose enduring wisdom, published in 1890 to enormous renown among the world’s naval powers, is once again being re-validated by the Chinese as they build their first foreign naval base — in Djibouti, “a few miles from Camp Lemonnier, one of the Pentagonās largest and most important foreign installations,” and launch their first domestically-produced aircraft carrier.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/29/2017 @ 8:07 pmA culture on the ascendancy builds navies. A culture on the decline builds walls. Oh, well, maybe we too can come back in about 700 years.
nk (dbc370) — 4/30/2017 @ 3:37 amGet this culture out of America –
mg (31009b) — 4/30/2017 @ 3:39 amhttps://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ed9c0d23233b39991a1aeec9b298a4956b69150b8b76f99eb4103c2c472cfe01.jpg
If cloty clinton had won, attempted gun confiscation would be happening.
mg (31009b) — 4/30/2017 @ 3:54 amThat clot is lucky she lost!!!
@ Beldar (fa637a) ā 4/29/2017 @ 8:07 pm: Excellent comment. Perhaps surprisingly, the Japanese were devout Mahanians. And in my judgement, and certainly in history’s judgement, misread Mahan’s book badly. They understood it as dogma, unchanging and unchangeable. They were going to draw in and attrite the American fleet as it crossed the Pacific and destroy at a choke point under their guns like they did with the Russians at Tsushima. (This one of the reasons why the Japanese remained huge fans of the battleship despite the lesson taught to the USN by the Nihon Kaido Butai).
Your opinions, indeed anyone’s opinions, especially if the disagree are always welcome.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 4:06 amA culture on the ascendancy can to both.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 4:09 amNimitz, who was as steeped in Mahan as any Japanese admiral, refused to walk cow-like into their trap.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 4:15 amYou may have noticed that since Trump was elected illegal border crossings have decreased by 70%. Because with the f***ing Mau Mau gone, our immigration people are enforcing the laws. Proving what the Spartans, who never had a wall around Sparta, said: It is not a wall made of bricks or stone that keeps out the enemy, it is a wall of men.
nk (dbc370) — 4/30/2017 @ 4:56 amThe Athenians, under Themistocles, defended against the Persians with a “wooden wall”, meaning their ships. Our “wall” which defeated the Japanese in WWII was not made of wood, but of steel, but it was still in the shape of ships and men. As was the wall which defeated the Germans.
nk (dbc370) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:00 amAs for the Chinese, they may still remember the “wall” that drove MacArthur back to the 38th parallel.
nk (dbc370) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:03 amA fresh serving:
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/04/smashing_the_patriarchy_and_asian_salad.html
narciso (d1f714) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:10 amThe wall is a physical demonstration of will like the space program
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/29/china-unexpectedly-returns-u-s-citizen-just-days-after-conviction-for-espionage/
narciso (d1f714) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:16 amLove Clarice.
mg (31009b) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:22 amnk, get a grip. What the h3ll do you think they teach at the Naval War College?
Yup, yup, yo, never heard of Themistocles.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:31 ambrainwashed butt-stain john mccain says the military piggies need sloppin
and he’s shamelessly exploiting North Korea for to extort some slop for the piggy trough
what will that money buy lol
maybe a plane and a candy bar
two things you can’t trust military piggy trash with
tax money or soldier’s lives
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:42 amoopers soldiers’ lives i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:42 amhere’s a link not sure what happened to the apostrophe s there
kooky
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:45 amoopers here’s a good link
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:00 amhere, in cowardly mcbuttstain’s own words, is what he wants to molest our treasury for 7.5 billion borrowed chineser dollars for:
srsly?
we slopped the piggies to the tune of over 2.5 trillion dollars over the last four years
and you’re telling me the spendy spendy corrupt military piggy trash forgot to use it to “preposition equipment” in the pacific?
jesus goddamn christ what an effing racket
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:07 amWarriors and tax-payers take a beating every time, happyfeet.
mg (31009b) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:23 amWe can’t afford to lawyer up against a rigged govt.
deranged opportunists like mccain are so terribly contemptuous of both
he needs to go away
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:26 amSteve57, you proudly wore the uniform of our Great Nation and took the same oath to defend her as I. How our country employs those of us who choose service is above our pay grade. We made ourselves available for whatever America asked of us. There is no more a patriot can do.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:29 amshine on lil diamond
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:31 amactually Mr. Reverend a patriot can *not* join the military, study hard, buckle down, and work towards creating jobs, prosperity, and a broader tax base and thereby do a lot more “service” for America than the average soldier, not least because our soldiers are routinely put to ill use and wasteful purposes
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:35 amPikachu you hate everybody, I’ve gotten wise to you.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:51 amYou know my reservations about il macchia, a less talented cromwell
http://ww.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/04/machiavellis_advice_for_mr_trump_and_us.html
narciso (d1f714) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:55 ami like non-organic farmers, zookeepers (including Kay Panabaker), Rand Paul (at the moment), coal miners, Grant Achatz, climate change deniers, people who bake kolaches, Madonna, koa campground operators, gun owners and Theresa May
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 7:10 am“ANALYSIS: TRUE. Peggy Noonan: Trump Has Been Lucky in His Enemies: Cursing pols, screeching students and intolerant abortion advocates have become the face of the left. āWhen I see tapes of the protests and riots at schools like Berkeley, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna and Yale, it doesnāt have the feel of something that happens in politics. It has the special brew of malice and personal instability seen in the Salem witch trials. . . . The cursing pols, the anathematizing abortion advocates, the screeching studentsāthey are now the face of the progressive left. This is what America sees now as the face of the Democratic Party. It is a party blowing itself up whose only hope is that Donald Trump blows up first.ā
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/263747/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/30/2017 @ 7:51 amhere’s a link to the full column Mr. Colonel
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 7:57 am#206 happyfeet
madonna ciccone probably doesn’t like most of the things (and people) on your list
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/30/2017 @ 8:16 ami’m certain she doesn’t like coal miners or climate change deniers
then again, she liked sean penn at one time, so she’s proven to have poor judgment about peeps
she grew up in detroit her dad was in the auto industry
i don’t think she’s a hateful person per se like the climate change hoax people
she probably hasn’t really even looked at the issue very closely at all, cause of how silly it is
she’s a very busy lady
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 8:20 amlady ciccone has said some nasty woman things about mr donald
life isn’t always a la isla bonita with her
sometimes she should not express herself
but i do like the line where she said fred astaire danced on air
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/30/2017 @ 8:40 amshe’s a good person but probably not the best cook
you never see her on cooking shows
this is probably her secret shame, that she’s helpless in the kitchen
i could teach her how to make pesto
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 8:50 amsausage
mg (31009b) — 4/30/2017 @ 8:52 amModified NK: the people of Texas will be their own best wall. Save the rebar and concrete for AZ and NM.
urbanleftbehind (2acd3d) — 4/30/2017 @ 10:06 ambye bye piggy
thanks for making failmerica suck just a little harder
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 10:26 amI think the over the top by the material girl is to throw people off the scent re closet Trumpitude. Subtract the fame and she fits the rust belt convert from D to R to a T.
urbanleftbehind (2acd3d) — 4/30/2017 @ 10:32 amso far none of her kids have turned out to be ignant social justice trash
that’s a very good sign
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 10:40 amLourdes must have been made by a 59er.
urbanleftbehind (2acd3d) — 4/30/2017 @ 10:44 amShe had a modicum of talent as opposed to the gaga chimera, but that I’ll say.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/30/2017 @ 10:59 amWhat the h3ll do you think they teach at the Naval War College?
What Churchill said?
nk (dbc370) — 4/30/2017 @ 11:08 ambecause our soldiers are routinely put to ill use and wasteful purposes
Those would be the soldiers you’ve previously referred to as “tatted up trash” of course. Good lord you’re such a tiresome pseudo-edgy twerp.
Jack Klompus (1b3003) — 4/30/2017 @ 1:35 pmoh my goodness gracious pickles Mr. Klompus please to find me where i ever said that, what you put in quotes
that’s a complete misnomer and a frightfully malapropos allegation
you’re not making the good and accurate comments
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 1:40 pmI have no idea what you mean when you say “a patriot can *not* join the military”. Every person I ever knew who joined the military is a patriot. And if you’re referring to me personally you are entitled to your opinion. Everything run by government from schools, to taxes, to welfare to education is “routinely put to ill use and wasteful purposes” so why would you think service people are any different? But that’s on the pencil necked politicians who spend a lifetime screwing the people, not on the servicemen.
Rev.HoagieĀ® (630eca) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:10 pmi’m saying there’s many good and even better ways to serve your country patriotically
way what don’t got nothing to do with joining up with no military
and yes yes i agree whole and also heartedly with your last sentence
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:16 pm*ways* what… i mean
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:16 pmAmerican Gods starts tonight but i don’t think i have a way to watch
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:20 pm#222: Mr. Klompus is quite correct.
https://patterico.com/2015/04/01/internet-mob-attacks-indiana-pizza-place-for-saying-it-would-not-cater-a-gay-wedding/#comment-1753193
Simon Jester (771155) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:26 pmyes yes we’ve started putting tatted-up gang-filth-looking losers in uniforms and letting them represent america it’s true
and it’s very sad and disgusting
but that’s not the same as saying all our soldiers are tatted up trash
that is a misnomer and a frightfully malapropos allegation
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:30 pmOMG.
Look, I don’t like posting among all the crude folks here, but *you* are the one who wrote:
And went on to say of Mr. Klompus:
I simply Googled, and found your filth.
And you still don’t take responsibility.
But I am not, and never have been, surprised by your innate dishonesty and narcissism.
I miss the old days with the people commenting from whom I could learn. Not so much of it now.
Simon Jester (771155) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:37 pmIn fact, I would pay big money to see you personally—face to face—talk that way to Steve, or the other folks in the service who post here.
But you wouldn’t, of course.
Simon Jester (771155) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:38 pmoh for the love of handlebar tassles and racing stripes get a life
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:39 pmAnd another person on the right suffers as they clutch a copy of the Constitution and Legal Papers screaming “rights” while the Left railroads folks into silence and professional destruction
Blah Blah (44eaa0) — 4/30/2017 @ 2:47 pmHF has been the equivalent of anthrax-infused fecal matter for years now. Nothing will change that.
John Hitchcock (4eaa02) — 4/30/2017 @ 3:24 pmIt would take me at least a year for me to get into the kind of shape where I could get back into the ring and give a decent showing. I’ve done three, three minute rounds. It ain’t easy.
But if my country called, if honor demanded, I’d show up tomorrow. And probably do better then expected. At 54 I have not entirely let myself go.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:03 pmI will talk face to face the exact same way I do on the internet.
It’s sort of a corollary to Hemingway’s dictum to never say drunk what you wouldn’t do sober.
That’ll teach you.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:06 pmi’m sure you’d do just fine
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:07 pmAs long as you could still handle this sort of thing: https://www.yahoo.com/news/delta-airlines-pilot-hits-passenger-034317788.html
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:17 pmHaving ATL and DTW as hubs will bite you in the arse eventually.
I’d probably get killed. I’m envisioning someone stomping on the back of my head after I’m knocked unconscious breaking my jaws against a curb.
I am reaching the end of my tether. What I want Simon Jester to know is, no matter how old and frail I become, I trained others to come after me. Like my dad, the sainted senior chief.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:20 pmhttp://youtu.be/uu3FRRXqazw
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:25 pmi’m disappointed that Simon would try to put you in that kind of situation
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:26 pm233-John, I’m assuming “HF” is Huffpo. On the other thread, Hillshire Farms makes more sense and that assertion about its encased meats might be literal truth.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:29 pmthe problem with hemingway is that he said things when he was sober that might lead one to believe he was actually drunk
but at least howard hawks made to have and have not into a really good movie
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 4/30/2017 @ 5:37 pmSimon didn’t.
Simon! I did my job!
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:03 pmCruz Supporter I dispute your version of events.
What did Hemingway ever do to lead you to believe he was ever sober? At least after WWI?
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:26 pmNo, ulb, HF does not stand for some outside company. It stands for the name of a complete and utter waste of chromosomes commenting in this thread who has those initials.
John Hitchcock (4eaa02) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:32 pmhello?
feelings
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:36 pmhttp://www.badlefthook.com/2017/4/29/15487530/joshua-vs-klitschko-results-anthony-joshua-stops-wladimir-klitschko-in-dramatic-slugfest
I hope I didn’t stop ant hearts when I pointed out that 54 year old me will have his time.
Just like 41 year old Klitschko had his. And 27 year old Anthony Joshua will have his.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/30/2017 @ 6:52 pm187 nk (dbc370) ā 4/30/2017 @ 4:56 am
Actually, because Trump, or his reputation, is scaring them off.
You know what else he’s scaring off?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/us/immigrants-deportation-sexual-abuse.html?_r=0
Even though it’s not thw law, and almost contrary to law, but the lawyers have no idea what the policy is, or could be and somebody’s spreading rumors and nobody in the bureaucracy is fighting the rumors, or at rate making promises of inaction. Maybe they like it.
These victim of abuse visas have a quota on them, and much delay, and also maybe depend on the attitude of local police.
Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42) — 5/1/2017 @ 2:25 pmSimon Jester, I have the unfortunate feeling that I may have let you down.
“In fact, I would pay big money to see you personallyāface to faceātalk that way to Steve, or the other folks in the service who post here.”
Save your money. I will say anything, anytime, anywhere to whoever I think needs to hear it as long as I am convinced it’s the truth. I was a naval intelligence officer. I had to say unpopular things. But if you want to keep a pet around to stroke your ego, you need a different guy. And I have a voice, so I don’t care if the microphone goes out. The guy in the back row will here it.
As far as confrontation goes, Simon Jester, I’m comfortable with it. I played Rugby until my early 40s. Shipboard Security Engagement Weapons. Shipboard Security Engagement Tactics. I did not train anyone else’s training, it’s important to note, but I personally trained and went on to train the Sailors under my authority. I mentioned I have a voice.
http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/drill_and_ceremony/the-command-voice.shtml
I hope, Simon Jester, this will do for now.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 5/1/2017 @ 4:24 pmBoy, that was garbled. I meant to say that I did not personally train anyone in any of the subjects I mentioned. I simply made sure they got the proper training. That they went through the right schools.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 5/1/2017 @ 4:30 pm