White Woman Presumes To Speak For Native Americans
[guest post by Dana]
Last week, editor-in-chief of Mother Jones Clara Jeffery decided if Pence wouldn’t eat dinner alone with women other than his wife, it meant he wouldn’t hire women for top jobs in the administration. A few days ago, Jeffery made another ridiculous assumption. This time regarding Native Americans:
Gee, Clara, it’s mighty white of you to tell Indians what we think and feel, and that our place is at the table of perpetual victim. Because where else would it be, right??
Here, put this in your pipe and smoke it:
The tomahawk was created by Algonquian Indians and widely used by Native Americans and European colonialists alike. The iconic “pipe tomahawk” design of the colonial era was made using metal heads provided to tribes as gifts and goods from the British Navy.
Naming weapons and vehicles after Native American tribes and icons are a common practice in the U.S. military, including the Apache, Black Hawk, Iroquois, and Chinook helicopters and the Seminole and Mohawk airplanes.
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)
–Dana
As someone once famously said, nothing like the soft bigotry of low expectations.
Dana (023079) — 4/10/2017 @ 10:36 pmDon’t you know, Dana? Clara is fighting your war for you so you don’t have to. Now, go fix me a sammich.
John Hitchcock (bb282b) — 4/10/2017 @ 10:46 pmI love that it’s the army that uses so many of these native american expressions. I’m not sure how authentic it is, but we have the notion that these natives had strong warrior ethics, and we are trying to honor that.
The Oneida kinda got screwed in comparison.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 4/10/2017 @ 10:53 pmUgh.
“You call it Maize. We call it corn.” – Mazola Margarine ad, 1976
DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/10/2017 @ 10:57 pmUgh-ugh.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 4/10/2017 @ 10:59 pmOr was it “We call it Maize. You call it corn.” … So Sioux me.
I just love Chicksplaining, especially when it comes from such an exemplar of White Privilege.
ThOR (c9324e) — 4/10/2017 @ 11:15 pmThe Indians get their rhetorical revenge by having us non-natives pull “one-arm bandits” as a method to effect redistribution of income in their favor.
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 4/10/2017 @ 11:15 pmYeah, this bit from the PI (Perpetually Indignant) playbook is so laughably stupid the only sadness is that anyone takes it seriously.
Football teams are not named by “derogatory” terms (with an exception or two which I will name). The Washington Redskins, the Florida State Seminoles, the Cleveland Indians, the Atlanta Braves, these teams are not named in derogation — the names are meant to inspire fear, to represent a respected and fierce foe to be taken lightly at your peril.
This is pretty obvious when you examine other sports mascots — Tigers, Bears, Bulldogs — all fierce creatures to be wary of. Even the “less threatening” ones — the Temple Owls, the Minnesota Golden Gophers — represent creatures worthy of respect and recognition for qualities outside of combat — Owls for wisdom as well as hunters, Gophers for being industrious and efficient.
There are a couple exceptions, 60s-era namings by student bodies using groupthink to deride collegiate sports of all kinds — the Akron Zips and the Banana Slugs.
But they are the exception, not the rule. No one ever named their team the “Nashville Ni***rs” for a reason.
Q.E.D. — the terms above — Redskin, Indian, Brave — are all terms of RESPECT for those cultures.
IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (a86fcd) — 4/10/2017 @ 11:34 pmReservations have different rules, outside the reach of and apart from State busy bodies like Jerry Brown.
Feature this. They have little plots of land sprinkled all over California, what’s to stop them from building an oil refinery instead of a casino, the first new one(s?) in the country for 50 years?
Jobs baby, and a Wiyot thumb in Jerry’s eye.
Winning!
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/10/2017 @ 11:36 pmExcept the longhorns. The most delicious of mascots.
Dustin (ba94b2) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:06 amWhat about the Horny Toads?
John Hitchcock (bb282b) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:08 amHow dare they name a submarine after my home town!
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:10 amShe tweeting this at 10:26 in the morning. Pretty early to be drinking, even for a journalist.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:13 amMy hometown is WAUWATOSA WISCONSIN, also Scott Walkers, and Steven Hayes hometown. Wauwatosa means FIRE FLY in the native tongue of our area in Milwaukee. Is it RACIST to merely show homage and to use a native word? In H.S.athletics, I was a Wauwatosa (TOSA) EAST RED RAIDER. And I was proud of the heritage we honoured. In College I played 2 varsity sports, and I was a UNIVERSITY of WISCONSIN=WHITEWATER WARHAWK. Either I was honouring the NATIVE INDIAN LEGACY and HERITAGE or I was MOCKING IT. I AM PROUD TO HAVE HONOURED WISCONSINS LOCAL INDIAN HISTORY and HERITAGE.
On the other foot!!! My youngest brother was a LEWISVILLE TX, FIGHTING FARMER in his H.S.SPORTS career and days. I’ve often asked him why……..HE HATED FARMERS.
There is an industry of VICTIMHOOD. People are PAID to stir the POT. JESSE JACKSON and AL SHARPTON are 2 of the VULTURES who have gotten rich by virtue of creating victims and finding RACISM, where none exists.
GUS (30b6bd) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:25 am“A lot” in this article means “a few really noisy” native Americans
steveg (6fba59) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:45 amED from SFV!!!!!! When these “NATIVE” Americans profit BIGLY, by having separate and distinct legal rights vis a vis “gaming”. Do they think the term BLACK JACK is appropriate????
Many years ago, an extremely LIBERAL, UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT at MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY, found reason to find ANY RESERVATIONS….. (HA HA PUN INTENDED), to have Marquette’s Athletic NICK NAME …..BANNED.
WARRIORS. Patty Smythe, John McEnroe’s wife, and lead singer for the POP-ROCK BAND……SCANDAL…had a HIT SINGLE CALLED……..”WARRIOR”. Was that RACIST, INSENSITIVE or HURTFUL to any NATIVE-AMERICAN..(read Indian) alive?????? Of course not. Here is the VICTORY ANALOGY.
GUS (30b6bd) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:48 amIs PAT-O-RICO, insensitive, rude, wrong or RACIST to our FALN TERRITORY???? Or Clinton and Rodhams’ Friends???
What if a CATHOLIC PRIEST UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT in MILWAUKEE had the POWER as a LIB EDUCATOR, to DECIDE what is offensive based on ONE SQUEAKY WHEEL??? Or perhaps ZERO squeaky wheels, and one NE-ER DO-WELL who recognizes how to play the LIBERAL idiots.
Irish Spring soap Commercial. “MANLY YES!!! BUT I LIKE IT TOOOO!!! Would that commercial be ALLOWED in N.C. now????
What has happened to our Country and Culture, is that OUR KIDS, 40 YEARS and YOUNGER, have never been EDUCATED, with PATRIOTISM, MORALITY of any SORT, other than being MORALLY OUTRAGED at the VERY COUNTRY that has given them EVERYTHING. And the last 2 generations of SPOILED WEALTHY PAMPERED and CODDLED Americans’ believe that THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS have absolutely ZERO connection or responsibilities to THEMSELVES being citizens or THEMSELVES having ANY duty to behave in a manner that RESPECTS those who PROVIDED these FREEDOMS, that THESE BABIES take for granted and do not HONOUR.
Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio, our NATION turns it’s lonely eyes to you!!
STEVEG, A FEW…REALLY.NOISY…NATIVE AMERICANS.
I was born in Maryland. I AM a NATIVE AMERICAN.
GUS (30b6bd) — 4/11/2017 @ 1:02 amE-LIES-A-BETH WARREN is NOT of INDIGENOUS AMERICAN INDIAN BLOOD, HERITAGE nor CULTURE.
It is somewhat understandable that TRIBES and aforementioned indigenous peoples have privileges and certain rights granted to their FOREFATHERS.
What I would like to logically discuss, is, How does any NATIVE-AMERICAN-TRIBAL OFFSPRING, that is the EXACT SAME AGE as my SON……..HAVE RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES, FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITIES, BORN into ROYALTY-ESQUE cash/MONETARY distributions based on those TRIBAL rights, that have been GRANTED BY our courts. I am not envious, nor do I decry/HATE our American INDIAN Tribal rights and privileges.
What I OBJECT to, is the PANDERING to groups, and the SEPARATE and COMPLETELY NON-EQUAL righs.
SPEAR FISHING WITH MOTOR BOATS and MILLION CANDLE POWER SPOT LIGHTS, wiht
A more BRIEF reply as to MS CLARA JEFFERY. SIDWELL FRIENDS is not REALITY Ms JEFFERY. Also, I am very very sorry, your MARRIAGE and SOUL MATE experiment DID NOT WORK OUT.
GUS (30b6bd) — 4/11/2017 @ 2:13 amYour diatribes on LINE about your HUSBAND, whom YOU CHOSE, UNLIKE YOUR GOVERNMENT CONNECTED and MULTIPLE PENSIONED PARENTS, was a love connection and a RESPONSIBILTY, that was TOSSED ASIDE, by you and your SIDWELL SENSABILITIES, when it became laborious, and when it wasn’t easy like SUNDAY MORNING.
Mz Jeffery, you are TRAPPED. Your life is TRAPPED, in a spiral of ZERO FULFILLMENT. So SORRY Mizz Jeffery, BUT, your husband decided that PRESIDENT TRUMP, was a man of ACCOMPLISHMENT and ACHIEVEMENT.
I know, I know, Hillary Rotten Rodhams’ ENTIRE CAREER was based on SERVICE TO “TEH CHILDREN” (sic intended) Mizz Rodham is a pillar of WORKS and CHARACTER, and INTEGRITY, and Years and Years of ACCOMPLISHMENTS for TEH CHILDREN an of COURSE TEH WYMYN. Hillary Rotten Rodham, has been a LIFE LONG FAILURE and DISGRACE. From her EARLIEST DAYS as a NEW LAWYER and JR counsel for the WATERGATE INVESTIGATION, HILLARY ROTTEN RODHAM, has been an evil duplicitous, self serving, lying HACK,
And Hillary Rotten was FIRED from the WATERGATE INVESTIGATION for being dishonest and for LACKING CHARACTER. MIZZ JEFFERY, How did ROTTEN RODHAM behave and respond when she DISCOVERED that her HUSBAND was “diddling” “banging”, having a decade long affair of “Infidelity and intercourse” with women NOT his WIFE?
Let me help you with question Mizz Jeffery. Your HERO, a woman of ZERO ACCOMPLISHMENTS in LIFE, yet many many $$$$$ TIES and CONNECTIONS via HER CHEATING HUSBAND……,,,,,, PAID PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS to SCARE, THREATEN DEMEAN, and DESTROY the lives careers and reputations of WOMEN whom Billy the RAPIST either sexaully assaulted or whom he tried to “SCORE” with. Mizz Jeffery, I’m SURE, that YOU as an HONOURABLE WOMYN, and as a SIDWELL GRAD, I’m VERY SURE, that you find UNWANTED SEXUAL advances and behaviors from POWERFUL MEN………WRONGFUL…and…..DISGUSTING.
NO YOU DON’T. You Missy Mizz Jeffery, are a somewhat VALUELESS, nearly Sociopathic, LIBERAL AUTOMATON. Just like dear old MOM and DAD.
Very useful! Thank for sharing
slope (8470a9) — 4/11/2017 @ 2:40 amIf the stupid woman wants we can go back to the old English word for a hatchet to be used in war.
I know. Something like “war hammer.”
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.sKU38yEE-3d2qd5dfBlXtQEsDb&pid=15.1
It’s not like the Arapaho invented the concept.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/11/2017 @ 5:16 amThis won’t be settled until Elizabeth “Talking Bull” Warren weighs in.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/11/2017 @ 5:20 amAs a Greek, I’m totally pissed about the Aegis, Nike, Atlas, Titan, Jupiter, Mercury, and Apollo rockets. Especially Apollo. Apollo is a sun god. A more culturally-sensitive NASA could have at least named a rocket it sent to the Moon after the moon goddess Artemis (or Diana or Cynthia).
Just kidding (but you already know that). Clara Jeffery is nuttier than pemmican is what I think.
nk (dbc370) — 4/11/2017 @ 5:20 amDumb name, but not derogatory.
NJRob (43d957) — 4/11/2017 @ 5:34 amCould be a Jets fan.
JP (f1742c) — 4/11/2017 @ 6:04 amwould anyone really be shocked if the idiot pigs who run the military said oh my goodness you’re right we need to change all the names for to do the social justice all up in it for them poor native americans cause of how we stoled their land and then did climate change what had a disparate impact on the intersectional aspects of the native american tranny community
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/11/2017 @ 6:10 amWith that mug, she clearly didn’t become a Jets fan the same way Bridget Moynihan became one.
urbanleftbehind (bb6005) — 4/11/2017 @ 6:28 amYes, now that the Kenyan Muslim Communist Obama and the wife-pimping Ashton Carter are no longer in charge of our military, I really would be be very shocked if the military did that.
nk (dbc370) — 4/11/2017 @ 6:34 amMeanwhile… http://ace.mu.nu/archives/If%20You.jpg
Colonel Haiku (b97a97) — 4/11/2017 @ 6:40 amugh obama disgusts me
happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/11/2017 @ 7:02 amThe CAPS over usage made me dizzy.
Blah Blah (44eaa0) — 4/11/2017 @ 7:13 am> 60s-era namings by student bodies using groupthink to deride collegiate sports of all kinds — the Akron Zips and the Banana Slugs.
The Banana Slugs were named *in the 1980s*, not in the 1960s. And virtually nobody who attended that institution thinks it’s a derisive mascot; it’s an *accurate* mascot in that banana slugs are native to the forests in the upper campus.
Source: I graduated from that university in 1996.
aphrael (3f0569) — 4/11/2017 @ 8:09 amStarting to think that Sessions ain’t worth it, with the lust for asset forfeiture, war on weed and the decommissioning of the forensic sciences lab. I’m sure we can get another guy who will dissolve the police dissent decrees, not muck up immigration enforcement, hold firm on voter ID.
Maybe this is the lesson of being squeamish (for very different reasons) about Kobach or Christie. And I think John Kelly is doing a great job in his capacity at DHS.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/11/2017 @ 8:26 am“Source: I graduated from that university in 1996.
aphrael (3f0569) — 4/11/2017 @ 8:09 am ”
Try to convince anyone that Santa Cruz seriously cared about sports.
Go on. I dare you.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/11/2017 @ 8:43 amI’m one eighth Irish.
I am so totally P.O.d about this.
http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/notre-dame-fighting-irish-logo-leprechaun.jpg
I can hardly speak.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/11/2017 @ 8:50 amSorry aphrael, but they were the Banana Slugs by the time I got there in 1975 and it wasn’t new then.
ThOR (c9324e) — 4/11/2017 @ 8:53 amGreetings:
I think that there’s an underlying assumption about Amerindian martial technology. When the white eyes first started showing up, it was kind of even-steven or a bit better for the locals than the new arrivals. Bows and arrows seem to reload a lot quicker than military-style assault muskets even though the Pilgrims did some good work. In fact, if you read T.R. Fehrenbach’s “Comanches: The History of a People” (now progressively re-titled “Comanches: The Destruction of a People”) it wasn’t until Samuel Colt made all men, and probably some women, equal that things started going the Texicans’ way.
I watched a subtitled Korean move entitled “The Yellow Sea” a couple of weeks back that in spite of being about modern day gang warfare on the peninsula had the best knife and hatchet work I’ve seen since “The Last of the Mohicans”.
Would it help if the whites called them “Tommyhawks” ???
11B40 (6abb5c) — 4/11/2017 @ 9:03 amIf they’re not after the yellow moons and pink hearts, they’re appropriating teh culture, Steve.
Colonel Haiku (b97a97) — 4/11/2017 @ 9:04 amDehydration is a major problem for the mollusk; to combat this, banana slugs excrete a thick coating of mucus around their bodies and can also aestivate. To do so, they secrete a protective layer of mucus and insulate themselves with a layer of soil and leaves. They remain inactive in this state until the environment becomes moist again.
The slime also contains pheromones to attract other slugs for mating. Slugs are simultaneous hermaphrodites, and reproduce by exchanging sperm with their mate. They produce up to 75 translucent eggs, which are laid in a log or on leaves. Slugs mate and lay eggs throughout the year. The adults provide no further care for their eggs beyond finding a suitable hiding spot, and the eggs are abandoned as soon as the clutch is laid.
All sorts of room for snark. U.C. Santa Cruz Banana Slugs probably develop a thicker skin.
The larger, upper pair, termed “eyestalks,” are used to detect light or movement. The second, lower pair are used to detect chemicals. The tentacles can retract and extend themselves to avoid damage. If a predator bites off a tentacle, the slug can grow a new one.
From the Wiki.
Growing a new eyeball is a good trick.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/11/2017 @ 9:07 amMy condolences.
Your Aggressive British Islanders towel set is in the mail.
JP (f1742c) — 4/11/2017 @ 9:16 amA lot of Banana Slug fame is from a shirt John Travolta wore in Pulp Fiction. Cool mascot suit that would make me think of a space alien if not told the official name beforehand. The lower UC’s have those “realistic body” kind of cheerleaders which I guess is good if you are the 14th guy on the basketball team.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/11/2017 @ 9:29 amBanana Slug shirt from Pulp Fiction.
“What do they look like Jimmy?”
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/11/2017 @ 9:58 amFor some reason people don’t insult Italians by naming sports teams after them. And I don’t know why. America is named after an Italian.
http://www.marineswwii.com/john_basilone.php
You had best bow your heads when you drive by the exit for Basilone Road at Camp Pendleton.
I think maybe I know the answer. You’re too scared. Because, f***in’ eh.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/11/2017 @ 10:02 amIt was actually the French order of priests that picked out Fighting Irish along with the Leprechaun. From the 1600s to the 1800s, the French used Catholic Ireland against the Isle of Britain in a manner akin to the modern Chinese using North Korea.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/11/2017 @ 10:06 amThanks. About effin’ time I got something for it.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/11/2017 @ 10:06 amI want to appropriate the culture that built the Lamborghini Miura, Coronello. Also since I’m choosing the one that produced Scarlett Johansen. But I think I’m going to have to hurry up in the because another culture seems to want to appropriate it first.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/11/2017 @ 10:17 amThey don’t have any gladiator mascots ? Toga parties? That’s Italian.
Seems like a reach.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/11/2017 @ 10:48 amWhy does the new Italian Navy have glass bottom boats?
One of the first jokes I ever heard.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/11/2017 @ 10:50 amThe military could name their missiles after animals – the nag, the shrew, the baboon, the jackass, the screech owl, the howler monkey – any of those names suit the aggrieved lady?
Jerryskids (3308c1) — 4/11/2017 @ 11:16 amA local private elite H.S. has the “Romans” (The Latin School of Chicago), thats all I got.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/11/2017 @ 11:28 amOops, Jamiel Shaw’s HS is also the Romans. There I was able to do it while fighting the urge to say “but he was a Blood!”
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/11/2017 @ 11:30 amThe Banana Slugs were named *in the 1980s*, not in the 1960s. And virtually nobody who attended that institution thinks it’s a derisive mascot; it’s an *accurate* mascot in that banana slugs are native to the forests in the upper campus.
Source: I graduated from that university in 1996.
I think I heard your alma mater is dropping intercollegiate athletics anyway, so a nickname is kind of superfluous.
Ah, on second thought I see that I am wrong and that UC Santa Cruz will likely continue with its athletics program.
JVW (defca7) — 4/11/2017 @ 11:40 amWhy does the new Italian Navy have glass bottom boats?
Old World War II joke: Did you hear the U.S. Army just bought some surplus war rifles from the Italian Army? Never been fired, and only dropped once.
JVW (defca7) — 4/11/2017 @ 11:41 amIt would be easier for present egos to dismiss and forget. If anything, naming powerful weapons and systems is a warrior’s tribute that recognizes and records the merits of his opponents.
n.n (94c608) — 4/11/2017 @ 12:07 pmARrmyhelicopter models are named, by tradition are e given Indian names, look for another when and ift the venerable blackhawk is retired and and a replacemment come out What is mor traditionally Amrerican than Native AMericans?? and the names re immortailized when given to aircraft whose exploits will be remembered long after the aircraft no longer exists.Everybody knows the name of the USS Misouri and the USS ARizona, but those type of ships are no longer produced or in service.
neoCon_1 (44b3a5) — 4/11/2017 @ 1:15 pmHow long must hostilities be done with before those moon-worshippers get sect names on equipment?
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 4/11/2017 @ 1:24 pmThe Air Force will soon role out its new ground attack bomber, the Fluffy Bunny, and its air superiority fighter, the Prudent Snowflake. The army will replace the Abrams tank with the Unicorn, of course.
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/11/2017 @ 1:37 pm*roll out, sorry
Beldar (fa637a) — 4/11/2017 @ 1:37 pmAlpa Chino: I had to represent. Cause they had one good role for a black man, and they gave it to Crocodile Dundee!
Kirk Lazarus: Pump your brakes, kid, that man’s a national treasure.
Alpa Chino: I just wanted to thrown another shrimp on your barbie!
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/11/2017 @ 5:05 pmKirk Lazarus: That [edit] ain’t funny.
Kevin Sandusky: Hey, fellas… it’s hot! We’re tired! It stinks!
Alpa Chino: I ain’t [edit]in’ with you, Kangaroo Jack. I’m sorry the dingo ate your baby!
Kirk Lazarus: You know that’s a true story? Lady lost a kid. You’re about to cross some [edit]in’ lines.
Kevin Sandusky: Guys, relax!
Alpa Chino: You know what? [edit] that, man! I’m sick of this koala-huntin’ nigga tellin’ me-
[is cut off as Lazarus slaps him; goes to punch back]
Kirk Lazarus: [blocking the punch and pulling Alpa into an embrace] For four hundred years, that word has kept us down.
Alpa Chino: What the [edit]?
Kirk Lazarus: Took a whole lotta tryin’ just to get up that hill. Now we’re up in the big leagues, gettin’ our turn at bat. As long as we live, it’s you and me, baby…
Alpa Chino: [pulling away] That’s the theme song to The Jeffersons. Man, you really need help.
Kirk Lazarus: Just because it’s a theme song don’t mean it’s not true.
The great state of Georgia has some interesting high school nicknames. Cairo (pronouced KAY-ro) High School calls its male teams the Syrupmakers and its female teams the Syrup Maids.
Meanwhile, Johnson High School in Savannah calls its teams the Atom Smashers. The school gym is often referred to as The Reaction Chamber.
Deuce Frehley (34e733) — 4/11/2017 @ 7:12 pmDana – Pipestone is where all Indians come to peace. I was fortunate to grow up near Pipestone, and have enjoyed going many times.
mg (31009b) — 4/12/2017 @ 3:26 amhttps://www.nps.gov/pipe/index.htm
I have been remiss. This April marks the 75th anniversary of the Bataan Death March.
For once I’m not going to twist this into a Navy Tribute. Army, even in defeat you did America proud. If not for p*ss poor depression era planning it wouldn’t have been a last stand, but a link-up.
And the last cavalry charge!
http://www.edwinpriceramsey.com/
Courage. It’s what we need now. It’s what the brave soldiers of Bataan, Filipino and American demonstrated then.
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/12/2017 @ 6:08 amMacArthur gave a damn…..well enough to totally drop the ball when he got the news about Pearl Harbor, then bugging out for Melbourne with half a million $ from President Quezon (Macarthur’s staff also received cash but one member refused: D Eisenhower).
harkin (517285) — 4/12/2017 @ 7:44 am48 – “The military could name their missiles after animals – the nag, the shrew, the baboon, the jackass, the screech owl, the howler monkey…..”
So they’re going to name missles after the speakers at the women’s march?
harkin (517285) — 4/12/2017 @ 7:47 am@62, MacArthur dropped the ball. True. True. I don’t know of anyone coming up with a credible reason for why the USAAF on Luzon was destroyed on the ground hours after they had heard of Pearl.
As far as caring goes, everybody did. Nimitz wanted to bypass the Philipines and go straight to Taiwan. Strategically I think that made better sense. But MacArthur made the case that we couldn’t bypass the Filipinos. Nimitz agreed.
We had to return. God love the Pinoys.
http://valor.militarytimes.com/recipient.php?recipientid=32305
Attention to citation:
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/12/2017 @ 8:48 amhttps://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/04/12/ied-explosions-target-german-soccer-team-bus-in-dortmund-note-at-scene-claims-islamist-motive/?singlepage=true
narciso (84646b) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:02 amKind of annoying that they don’t tell you where is Borussia Dortmund.
Never heard of it before in my life, and it’s not like I was actively avoiding the knowledge. That’s an article written for Americans. They should present the basic info before they launch into their anti islamist screed.
German soccer team management is flaky; their players young and obedient. It’s only too possible they’d drive a busload of targets into a Muslim majority enclave.
SO I RESORT TO BING.
Bing says; Borussia Dortmund is a German sports club based in Dortmund, North Rhine-Westphalia.
At which point I don’t care any more. [Edit] THEM> [Edit] and the horse they rode in on.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:24 amWell poole had to dig through a lot of evasions to get to the truth,
narciso (84646b) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:31 amIt’s not just overseas stories where the news scribblers drop the ball.
How many times have I opened a story “Man attacked in broad daylight assailant yelled Alu Akabar”,
only to see, “A man was attacked in Oakvale today during the rushhour commute”.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:36 amNo mention of a State, County or nearby City , someone outside of podunkville might have heard of.
A ban full of soccer players blows up, their first instinct is to blame mechanical failure.
narciso (84646b) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:41 amIf had written it “Terrorist IDE explosion targets soccer bus in Germany” .
Now was that so hard? Get with the program Poole.
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:48 amsoccer kills
mg (31009b) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:50 amYes rush made that play. In his psa.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/12/2017 @ 9:52 amany chance the republicans can convict all these criminals?
mg (31009b) — 4/12/2017 @ 10:01 amhttps://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/04/12/report-house-investigation-of-susan-rice-scandal-expanding/
Rush is a smart fella> taught him everything he knows.
the note said “As of now, all the disbelieving actors, singers, sportsmen and all prominent figures in Germany and other Crusader nations are on the death list of the Islamic State.”
That’s interesting. Germany hasn’t been a Crusader nation since what? The 1600’s. There wasn’t even an organized such a thing as Germany back then, just a collection of gangs from different city states that sometimes stopped fighting amonst themselves long enough to push around others.
one lunatic with a pipe bomb > you think Merkel will surrender Rammstein Airbase?
papertiger (c8116c) — 4/12/2017 @ 10:03 amAny country that is not in the house of Islam, in the west is a crusader.
narciso (d1f714) — 4/12/2017 @ 10:14 amI was remiss. How could I ignore the Rhine crossing, March 1945.
https://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2015-04/landing-troops-across-rhine
Now boys and girls who wants to hear about the Navy Spitfires at Normandy.
http://spitfiresite.com/uploaded_images/vcs7-01.jpg
Steve57 (0b1dac) — 4/12/2017 @ 10:20 amThey would all be in ‘ the house of war’ Even if they don’t know it. Germany was the ally of the Turks in both wars, gave support to Nasser vs Israel, the chemical rocket affair.
narciso (84646b) — 4/12/2017 @ 10:21 amBtw I found out about Dortmund from an Indian tv station.
narciso (84646b) — 4/12/2017 @ 10:29 amI’m sure Scotsmen are really upset about “claymore”, too.
matt d (d4aa6f) — 4/14/2017 @ 1:08 pmJust a coincidEnce
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/792112/Marine-Le-Pen-French-election-votes-computer-Emmanuel-Macron
narciso (d1f714) — 4/14/2017 @ 1:31 pm