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Conflicted about God

Filed under: Uncategorized — Not Rhetorical @ 8:39 pm

How do you teach kids about God’s style of persuasion — say, the Ten Plagues, especially the killing of the Egyptians’ first-born sons? What do you tell them? What do you tell yourself, for that matter?


  1. “Don’t piss off G*d”?

    Comment by redc1c4 — 3/31/2009 @ 9:27 pm

  2. Ummm … how about that, when someone is stubbornly pursuing a path contrary to the wishes of Someone Who Is WAYYY More Powerful, it’s *really* stupid to ignore a progressively more dangerous set of experiences … it’s taking “doubling down” to the levels of stupidity of splitting a pair of face cards in Vegas (a legal play, yet amazingly dumb/greedy) … (kinda reminds one of current Administration and Congressional fiscal/economic policy, don’t it, just ?) …

    By about the 3rd or 4th plague, even not-too-bright folk are usually starting to “learn from History” …

    Comment by Alasdair — 4/1/2009 @ 12:33 am

  3. God does not persuade. He commands. That’s what makes Him God. He makes the rule for his loved ones. His loved ones do not make the rules for Him. Otherwise He is not God, or even a god.

    Now, if you or your child are intelligent enough not to be necessarilly god-ridden, but nonetheless you find yourselves god-ridden, you might wish to consider that

    1) Your suspicion that your ancestors created God and not He them, has nothing to do with your
    Faith in Him; and that

    2) A Graven Image engraved in your mind is infinitely more powerful than one engraved in stone.

    Comment by nk — 4/1/2009 @ 6:28 am

  4. Ummm … you assume that I buy that Old Testament stuff about a vengeful and jealous Old-Man-with-a-Beard God. Pretty sure that isn’t the God that the Gospels describe. Jesus seems to talk about Love, not Smiting.

    Also pretty sure that that isn’t the God that exists, since there doesn’t seem to be much useful smiting going on today.

    No, what I tell folks is that God doesn’t interfere in Man’s affairs — Man screws it up all by himself.

    God will help ME change ME, He won’t help me fix YOU — that’s between you and Him.

    So, to answer your question about the Plagues: “Stupid story, didn’t happen, nothing to explain.”

    Comment by Kevin Murphy — 4/1/2009 @ 7:15 am

  5. Jesus seems to talk about Love, not Smiting.

    He did create a Hell for those who do not love Him, though. Not that it makes any difference in my love for Him.

    Religion, truly-felt, deeply-felt religion, and thought are two parallel lines transversing infinity. They will never meet.

    Comment by nk — 4/1/2009 @ 7:21 am

  6. And, nk, that is the issue. “Religion” as opposed to “belief”.

    Comment by Kevin Murphy — 4/1/2009 @ 8:14 am

  7. I teach my kids to sing their church songs with more honest lyrics, e.g.,

    Jesus loves the little children
    All the children everywhere
    Black or white and rich or poor
    Burn in hell forever more
    But he loves them all, I swear!

    Comment by Xrlq — 4/1/2009 @ 6:01 pm

  8. “See…that is why you eat your vegetables…”

    Comment by MunDane68 — 4/2/2009 @ 5:07 pm

  9. The ten plagues of Egypt teach us that collective punishment is required to change attitudes, especially in the middle east. Your Kindergarten teacher does it (“We’re all going to sit here until I find out who put a tack on my chair.”) and so does God.

    Comment by luagha — 4/3/2009 @ 10:08 am

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