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	<title>Comments on: Brutal gang rape in Richmond &#8211; media ignore the elephant in the room</title>
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		<title>By: aunursa</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/jury/2009/01/08/brutal-gang-rape-in-richmond-media-ignores-the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-1798</link>
		<dc:creator>aunursa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A columnist in the Oakland Tribune acknowledged: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.insidebayarea.com/drummond/ci_11424188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Proposition 8&#039;s passage had nothing to do with attack on woman&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A columnist in the Oakland Tribune acknowledged: <a href="http://www.insidebayarea.com/drummond/ci_11424188" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Proposition 8&#8242;s passage had nothing to do with attack on woman&#8221;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: imdw</title>
		<link>http://patterico.com/jury/2009/01/08/brutal-gang-rape-in-richmond-media-ignores-the-elephant-in-the-room/comment-page-1/#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>imdw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only working definition of a Hate Crime is that some liberal doesn’t like what you did&quot;

Sounds like you&#039;ve done a lot of research on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only working definition of a Hate Crime is that some liberal doesn’t like what you did&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like you&#8217;ve done a lot of research on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean--

But don&#039;t ya know?  All Prop 8 supporters are rednecks and Klansmen.  OK, Klanspeople.  At least this is how the press portrays them, and this is just more of the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean&#8211;</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t ya know?  All Prop 8 supporters are rednecks and Klansmen.  OK, Klanspeople.  At least this is how the press portrays them, and this is just more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: htom</title>
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		<dc:creator>htom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone please connect her to PinkPistols; with four now angry males, and their kin and friends, to deal with, she need more than a restraining order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone please connect her to PinkPistols; with four now angry males, and their kin and friends, to deal with, she need more than a restraining order.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seems pretty clear that the crime was motivated by animus towards the woman&#039;s orientation, but how in the hell do you tag this on Prop 8 with a straight face? Richmond is in Alameda County, one of the strongest &quot;no&quot; counties in California. And frankly, as of today the hardcore &quot;no&quot; on 8 people are much more worked up over the issue than the hardcore &quot;yes&quot; on 8 people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seems pretty clear that the crime was motivated by animus towards the woman&#8217;s orientation, but how in the hell do you tag this on Prop 8 with a straight face? Richmond is in Alameda County, one of the strongest &#8220;no&#8221; counties in California. And frankly, as of today the hardcore &#8220;no&#8221; on 8 people are much more worked up over the issue than the hardcore &#8220;yes&#8221; on 8 people.</p>
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		<title>By: aphrael</title>
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		<dc:creator>aphrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuff like this is why most gay people are nervous whenever they&#039;re outside of areas which they assume to be safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuff like this is why most gay people are nervous whenever they&#8217;re outside of areas which they assume to be safe.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another undiscussed issue is the whole concept of Hate Crimes.  The only working definition of a Hate Crime is that some liberal doesn&#039;t like what you did, but being powerless little schlubs, Liberals want the justice system to pile on for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another undiscussed issue is the whole concept of Hate Crimes.  The only working definition of a Hate Crime is that some liberal doesn&#8217;t like what you did, but being powerless little schlubs, Liberals want the justice system to pile on for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Killington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Killington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always like being reminded that some people deserve more protection by the law than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always like being reminded that some people deserve more protection by the law than others.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just give me one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/07/gta_iv_baseball_bat.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these&lt;/a&gt;, and a locked room with these animals...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just give me one of <a href="http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/07/gta_iv_baseball_bat.jpg" rel="nofollow">these</a>, and a locked room with these animals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what struck me about the story.  From the linked article:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Some community members question if prosecuting the juveniles as adults is the right action to take.

&quot;It&#039;s a hate motivated crime, so unfortunately it may satisfy an urge for vengeance,&quot; said Jovida Guevara-Ross, executive director of Community United Against Violence, who hopes the prosecution will recognize that the youths allegedly involved in the attack were being led by adults.

&quot;I would hope that prosecutors would look at that there were two adults with them who were leading the attack, from all accounts,&quot; Ross said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What?  Any excuse to go easy on a vile criminal?  C&#039;mon.  15 is more than old enough to know that attacking someone is wrong.  Battery and rape are not &quot;juvenile&quot; crimes.  I am sick of these apologists.  Jovida should be in jail with these creeps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what struck me about the story.  From the linked article:</p>
<blockquote><p>Some community members question if prosecuting the juveniles as adults is the right action to take.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a hate motivated crime, so unfortunately it may satisfy an urge for vengeance,&#8221; said Jovida Guevara-Ross, executive director of Community United Against Violence, who hopes the prosecution will recognize that the youths allegedly involved in the attack were being led by adults.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would hope that prosecutors would look at that there were two adults with them who were leading the attack, from all accounts,&#8221; Ross said.</p></blockquote>
<p>What?  Any excuse to go easy on a vile criminal?  C&#8217;mon.  15 is more than old enough to know that attacking someone is wrong.  Battery and rape are not &#8220;juvenile&#8221; crimes.  I am sick of these apologists.  Jovida should be in jail with these creeps.</p>
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