The Jury Talks Back


About Bush and the Shoes*

Filed under: Uncategorized — Not Rhetorical @ 12:40 am

In all of the reaction to this, the security question seems peripheral at best, with just a few passing mentions. Why is that? Isn’t it kind of a big deal that this guy was able to throw a shoe at the president of the United States — and then bend down, reach for his second shoe and hurl that one too?

He could have actually hurt Bush. Forget shoe-bomber-style explosives; even unusually heavy shoes, if aimed well, could have done some damage. Suppose he’d reinforced them with lead or concrete or something?

And assuming DRJ and Scott are right that Bush waved off his Secret Service guy: Why does he get to do that, anyway? I wouldn’t think he’d be the best person to assess his personal safety in such a situation.

* UPDATE: Guess I’m not the only one to wonder about this.


  1. Well, he’d already thrown two shoes… Baring some medical mystery, he was out of shoes. :)

    And at the time the guy was finally being swarmed, so there would have been little point. Also, it isn’t like there had been gunshots. In THAT case, yeah – screw what the PotUS says, you put him on the ground and cover him. It would be safe to say, though, that had the guy had one, he’d have used it…

    And it seems the tosser is being questioned about whether or not he was paid to throw the shoes…

    Comment by Scott Jacobs — 12/15/2008 @ 1:54 am

  2. I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop.

    Comment by Amphipolis — 12/15/2008 @ 5:24 am

  3. I was surprised that he had enough time to bend down, get the second shoe and hurl it at the POTUS before SS agents were able to get in the way. You can bet that if that had been the One, the Media would be howling after the SS for not reacting quicker, but since it is only GWB, they could care less. In fact, most in the Dinosaur Media were probably upset that Bush was able to duck instead of being hit.

    Comment by J. Raymond Wright — 12/15/2008 @ 11:18 am

  4. Will lefties consider throwing shoes at Obama to be highest form of dissent?

    Comment by Perfect Sense — 12/15/2008 @ 1:03 pm

  5. I wonder if reporters will have to go barefoot from now on.

    Comment by Kevin Murphy — 12/15/2008 @ 3:33 pm

  6. I’m glad President Bush kept his cool and handled this the way he did, but I have the feeling there will be some serious discussions and maybe even some reassignments at the Secret Service.

    Comment by DRJ — 12/15/2008 @ 5:48 pm

  7. And that’s a shame, because it was in the Green Zone and I’m sure everyone was thoroughly screened for weapons, explosives, etc. The Secret Service was probably trying to keep a low profile the way they do at American press briefings.

    Comment by DRJ — 12/15/2008 @ 5:50 pm

  8. #3: “You can bet that if that had been the One, the Media would be howling after the SS for not reacting quicker, but since it is only GWB, they could care less.”

    Then again, if the media had made a big deal out of the security issue, wouldn’t that have been seen as evidence that they were trying yet again to paint the administration as incompetent?

    Comment by Not Rhetorical — 12/16/2008 @ 12:34 am

  9. You know, W ought to have taken off his shoes and thrown them back at the reporters, and done so at his next US press conference.

    Comment by PCD — 12/16/2008 @ 6:07 am

  10. DRJ, you’re surely right. Someone in the SS is having the worst week of their life right now, and frankly, I think that’s fair.

    Our president has to be safe. Too much revolves around his judgment for his safety to be questionable.

    Not Rhetorical, I see your point…

    Comment by Juan — 12/16/2008 @ 2:11 pm

  11. DRJ (#6) and Juan (#10): how does it work when the President is in a theater of military operations? Is the Secret Service still in charge of his security, or does that pass over to the military?

    Forgive me if this is covered in the links that Not Rhetorical appended. I lack the time to check them out and too much of the mainstream media makes my laptop sick anyway.

    Comment by JVW — 12/16/2008 @ 3:51 pm

  12. JVW, the Secret Service retains the mission of protecting the president, at all times, though they do rely on a variety of government agencies, including the military, for many tasks.

    General Ordieno was actually in the room when this happened, but his security detail was not.

    Comment by Juan — 12/16/2008 @ 6:55 pm

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