Virginia Election: Open Thread [Updated]
[guest post by JVW]
UPDATE 10:30 pm – I’m calling it a night, but the NY Times has the latest New Jersey numbers with Ciattarelli at 50.6% and Murphy at 48.7%, with 83% of the vote counted. I have no idea where the 17% of the uncounted vote is located, but I am assuming it is in pro-Democrat urban areas. Still, a very unexpected showing for the GOP in New Jersey, suggesting the Democrats need to rethink the agenda they have been pursuing for the past 9 months.
UPDATE 8:23 pm – A brief word about New Jersey: Kyle Smith points out that Jack Ciattarelli has a 72,000 vote lead over incumbent governor Phil Murphy right now. Some of the northern counties which tend to run heavily Democrat have not yet reported (gee, big surprise: Democrat counties not reporting their results until after midnight) but there are some crazy things going on elsewhere. For example, in Gloucester County Murphy won four years ago by 13 points. Tonight he finds himself behind by 10 points in that county, with 97 percent of the vote counted. Though I think most prognosticators expect Murphy to pull this one out, it will probably be a very unimpressive win considering that Democrats outnumber Republicans in the state by over one million voters.
UPDATE 7:09 pm – NRO reports that exit polls suggest Youngkin lost Loudoun County by only ten points. Joe Biden beat Donald Trump by 24 points in the county just one year ago. This suggests that the GOP can be competitive in the suburbs, especially when Democrats pursue one of their reckless woke hobby-horses.
UPDATE 6:39 pm – Sorry, I overlooked NJRob’s comment earlier, but as he points out, Decision Desk HQ is projecting Youngkin as the winner. Not only that, but they also have projected the GOP candidates as having won the lieutenant governor race (Winsome Sears) and the attorney general race (Jason Miyares).
UPDATE 6:25 pm – Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report calls the race for Youngkin. He’s only one person, but it’s a good sign for the GOP:
I've seen enough: Glenn Youngkin (R) defeats Terry McAuliffe (D) in the Virginia governor's race. #VAGOV
— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) November 3, 2021
UPDATE 6:17 pm – Looking good for Youngkin and for the Virginia GOP thus far tonight. Fox News suggests that the GOP could sweep all three statewide races — governor, lieutenant governor, and attorney general — tonight, which is pretty amazing for a party that hasn’t won a statewide election in 12 years.
UPDATE 2:55 pm – At NRO, Philip Klein reminds Youngkin supporters that 1.1 million votes came in prior to today in Virginia, and many of them were cast back when McAuliffe enjoyed a lead in the polls. Youngkin will thus have to likely make up ground with those who have voted in the last couple of days as well as today.
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Since this will undoubtedly be the biggest political event of the evening, here’s a place to discuss it. I’ll try to update this post throughout the evening as we start to learn what is going on. With much of the vote coming in by mail, it could take into the weekend to learn which candidate will be the Old Dominion state’s new governor, as some counties plan to count ballots up through Friday afternoon.
The betting indices now favor Glenn Youngkin, albeit narrowly, Virginia-based political commentator Larry Sabato sees Youngkin as the emerging winner, and the Fox News poll from last week shows him with a 53%-45% lead over Terry McAuliffe. The McAuliffe campaign has behaved shamefully in the closing days of the election, first with their Unite the Right tiki torches hoax (yes, I know the Lincoln Project claims “credit” for that one, but I find it impossible to believe that they did not coordinate it with the Democrats) and now by making up ridiculous and easily-disproved lies about Youngkin and engaging in outright race-baiting as only the sleaziest of Clintonian operators could do.
Speaking of America’s most awful family, here’s a fun fact: Terry McAuliffe has brought in Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Stacey Abrams, and Kamala Harris among other prominent Democrats to campaign for him. You know who apparently did not receive an invitation from the McAuliffe campaign? Hillary Rodham Clinton. Go figure.
McAuliffe, who has dinged Youngkin for some past language questioning the legitimacy of the 2020 election, gladly campaigns with Stacey Abrams who continues to peddle her ugly lies that the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race was stolen from her, long after virtually every reasonable person reached the opposite conclusion. He’s also retained the services of Marc Elias, a controversial lawyer who seems to specialize in practices of dubious ethics, which comports nicely with McAuliffe’s ugly history of insisting that elections Democrats lose are clearly illegitimate. So should Glenn Youngkin emerge victorious by a narrow margin sometime over the weekend, don’t expect the Democrats to go quietly into the night.
And of course our wretched media elite are all over this election, understandably worrying that a Youngkin victory would make clear that Bidenesque Progressivism is a spent force and that Dems have much to fear with next year’s mid-term elections.
Glenn Youngkin has run a smart and disciplined race. A win for him tonight would not only be a punch in the gut to the Biden/Pelosi/Schumer (and Harris/Jaypal/Sanders) trioka of banality, but it would also suggest that there is a way for GOP candidates to keep Donald Trump at arm’s length without bruising the former President’s formidable ego. And that is what probably scares Democrats and their media adjunct the most. Here’s crossing my fingers that tonight’s results bring welcome news.
– JVW
Trafalgar’s polls now also have Youngkin winning by a 49%-47% margin. They were among the first polling outfits to start to see the race tightening, back in August when all of the rest of the pollsters believed McAuliffe had a ten-point lead. Trafalgar doesn’t always get it right — they thought that Trump would win Pennsylvania and Michigan in 2020 and that John James would pull out the upset Senate win — but they did get Florida exactly right and in general they came closer to the final results in each individual state than most other polls did. Unfortunately for the GOP, though they see the New Jersey gubernatorial race also tightening they believe that the incumbent, Democrat Phil Murphy, will pull out a relatively narrow win.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 2:52 pmUPDATE 2:55 pm – At NRO, Philip Klein reminds Youngkin supporters that 1.1 million votes came in prior to today in Virginia, and many of them were cast back when McAuliffe enjoyed a lead in the polls. Youngkin will thus have to likely make up ground with those who have voted in the last couple of days as well as today.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 2:58 pmYoungkin would have won if Trump had not endorsed him.
nk (1d9030) — 11/2/2021 @ 3:14 pmFor what it’s worth, Fox polling reports that by a 51%-49% margin, Virginia voters believe that McAuliffe’s attacks on Youngkin were unfair, whereas by a 57%-43% margin the same voters believe that Yougkin’s attacks on McAuliffe were acceptable within the realm of politics. Perhaps that is a clue that Youngkin will do well with suburban white women and independents. Perhaps it means that McAuliffe will win anyway, because Virginia is now dominated by voters who work for or do business with the government.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 3:48 pmVirginia is now dominated by voters who work for or do business with the government.
I’m sure that type of voter will, in their own way, schedule some Come to Jesus moments with gov-elect* Youngkin. Namely on things like SALT deduction restoration. This might be the ideal outcome for 3 years…income from federal largesse combined with cuts to state taxes.
urbanleftbehind (c2e573) — 11/2/2021 @ 4:20 pmPlus the emergence of a “Doesn’t_Need_Trump” wonderboy for 2024.
urbanleftbehind (c2e573) — 11/2/2021 @ 4:23 pmFor that reason alone, the NOVA political consultant class probably shifted over to Youngkin.
urbanleftbehind (c2e573) — 11/2/2021 @ 4:25 pmVoting started September 17th, which is way too early. A lot can happen in 47 days.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 4:44 pmI suspect Trump sensed an imminent Youngkin victory, and thus hurried to endorse him so he could claim credit for the victory. It will be sad but funny if Trump’s endorsement results in Youngkin losing. In that event, Trump will of course claim that Youngkin was insufficiently Trumpy.
It’s always about the orange marmalade.
norcal (b9a35f) — 11/2/2021 @ 5:21 pmVirginians may be a bit butthurt after the Virginia Cavaliers football team lost to my BYU Cougars 49-66 this past weekend. 🙂 Hopefully they take it out on McAuliffe.
norcal (b9a35f) — 11/2/2021 @ 5:24 pmDecision Desk and others calling it for Youngkin
NJRob (ded5a1) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:01 pma blowout, 55 – 43, with 63 pct of vote tallied.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:04 pmHAVE TO CLEAR THOSE LOW-ENERGY NAYSAYERS OUT FIRST:
“Youngkin would have won if Trump had not endorsed him.”
“I suspect Trump sensed an imminent Youngkin victory, and thus hurried to endorse him so he could claim credit for the victory. It will be sad but funny if Trump’s endorsement results in Youngkin losing. In that event, Trump will of course claim that Youngkin was insufficiently Trumpy.”
Youngkin won because he, like Trump, spoke to what was popular with his voters, and Trump’s endorsement was a case of like recognizing like. The winning platform IS SCREW COMMUNISM SCREW CRT AND SREW VAXX MANDATES! Go be a Democrat somewhere else, loser.
Sveeeeeper (81238b) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:05 pmUPDATE 6:17 pm – Looking good for Youngkin and for the Virginia GOP thus far tonight. Fox News suggests that the GOP could sweep all three statewide races — governor, lieutenant governor, and attorney general — tonight, which is pretty amazing for a party that hasn’t won a statewide election in 12 years.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:19 pmThis is good news for America, that another Clintonian sleazebag bites it.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:24 pmIn NJ, Biden won by 16 but Murphy is only up by 6. The Dems should be very worried about 2022.
Also, anything that smacks of Bernie/AOC big-government liberalism is dead in the water going forward, which is another good thing.
UPDATE 6:25 pm – Dave Wasserman of the Cook Political Report calls the race for Youngkin. He’s only one person, but it’s a good sign for the GOP:
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:29 pmOver at CNN, Chris Cillizza is phenomenally butt-hurt that citizens dare to question to Catechism of the Woke.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:30 pmThis is good news for America, that another Clintonian sleazebag bites it.
You are teasing a post I will likely write tomorrow if Youngkin holds on and wins this thing.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:31 pmWell, if the WaPo numbers are roughly right, McAuliffe would have to win more than 60 percent of the uncounted ballots to win the race — which seems unlikely.
Jim Miller (edcec1) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:41 pmUPDATE 6:39 pm – Sorry, I overlooked NJRob’s comment earlier, but as he points out, Decision Desk HQ is projecting Youngkin as the winner. Not only that, but they also have projected the GOP candidates as having won the lieutenant governor race (Winsome Sears) and the attorney general race (Jason Miyares).
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:42 pmhe polling place was quite busy today – not that there were lines, or more than one person ahead of a voter but busy. About two thirds of the presidential election in 2020. As much as in 2013. It occurs to me that turnout does not depend on the polls – people don’t assume the winner is a forgone conclusion in any seriously contested race – it depends on the importance of the race. An almost noncontested election like 1997 or 2017 get a lot less turnout. 1989 of course got a great deal – about as much as a presidential election.
It has to be that it doesn’t depend on the polls – after all the presidential race in New York is almost a forgone conclusion (although for a while the way the results came in, it looked like Ford might win in New York, and Reagan won in 1980 and 1984 – but there is high turnout. People get the flavor of a national campaign – and people don’t pay too much attention to how their votes will be counted – subtotaled.It’s how much they sense interest in the result.
Eric Adams in very preliminary returns was getting something like 75% and Curtis Sliwa 19%. The Republican candidate fr another citywide office was getting only about 3% less, so it was mostly the party base.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:45 pmI wouldn’t think he got Bill Clinton either. McAuliffe wants to put anything Clinton into the memory hole.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:48 pmIn the VA name race, I would give the edge to Winsome Sears over Princess Blanding.
Jim Miller (edcec1) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:52 pm@17, I don’t read his stuff. But I’ll accept
Time123 (9f42ee) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:56 pmYour summary and be glad he’s upset.
Last year, North Carolina had mail-in and early votes (presumably relatively higher for Biden) counted first. (Virginia was the opposite) so Trump looked better at first in Virginia than in North Carolina./
But Virginia mail in ballots can be counted pretty soon
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 6:59 pmHuh, Republican Jack Ciattarelli has opened up a very slight lead over Democrat incumbent Phil Murphy in the New Jersey Governor race with 38% of the vote counted. I don’t know where the rest of the votes are (or why they are being counted so much more slowly than Virginia is being counted), but I would assume that some urban areas will eventually push Murphy back into the lead. But an under-the-radar Ciattarelli upset tonight would be a huge story.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:03 pmThe things that people don;t like or fear the Democratic Party for were more important in this gubernatorial race than what they don’t like or fear the Democratic Party for.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:05 pmBill Clinton is in poor health, and as for Hillary Democrats are smart enough to know that losers don’t have coattails.
nk (1d9030) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:06 pmThere was a political dirty trick involving pretend neo-Nazis supporting Youngkin – it got exposed and the fallback was that this was done by the (isn’t it defunct?) Lincoln Project.
Others said it had some connection to McAuliffe.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:10 pmIn Minneapolis, voters decided to not replace their PD with social workers.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:11 pmThis is another good thing. Mend it, don’t end it.
UPDATE 7:09 pm – NRO reports that exit polls suggest Youngkin lost Loudoun County by only ten points. Joe Biden beat Donald Trump by 24 points in the county just one year ago. This suggests that the GOP can be competitive in the suburbs, especially when Democrats pursue one of their reckless woke hobby-horses.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:12 pmYes, Bill Clinton had a problem, but he could have recorded an advertisement if McAuliffe wanted him to even if he couldn;t make a public appearance and get some news coverage. Obama and Biden and Nancy Pelosi, even Stacey Abrams, and Kamala Harris are much less controversial figures. At keast they are not such red flags.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:15 pm30. A 14 point swing translates into a 4 point victory for Youngkin statewide 52-48
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:17 pmIn Minneapolis, voters decided to not replace their PD with social workers.
The Democrats are learning what happens when you set your party’s agenda based upon the howling of Twitter mobs. Only about 1 in 5 Americans has a Twitter account, and studies suggest that only about 1 in 20 Americans are on the site more than once or twice a week. And, of course, 80 percent of Twitter content is being generated by 10 percent of Twitter users, i.e. two percent of the country’s population. But again, that two percent seems to be driving the agenda for the Democrats.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:18 pmTerry McAuliffe has taken to the stage.
According to someone on WABC radio in New York, in August he said he would win by double digits.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:26 pmCNN says that the Virginia electorate this year has been 74% white and 90% 30 years of age or older. Compare this to the 2017 gubernatorial election and last year’s Presidential election when the electorate was only 66% white and only 80% 30 years or above. So the story is going to be that McAuliffe failed to motivate minority and young voters, and just watch Democrats interpret this to mean that they have to double-down on woke.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:27 pmMcAuliffe is refusing to concede, as of now. So why did he speak? Did he lead his campaign workers to expect him to claim victory at about this time of night so he had to say something?
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:32 pmThe low minority participation might be exclusive to the black side …might be part and parcel of the D party kicking Justin Fairfax to curb rather quickly after his MeToo revelation and also the de facto black slate for the statewide offices being beaten back by McAuliffe and crew in the primary. Youngkin was wise not to become macaca’d That explains the late stunts.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:47 pmThere gonna need some 70s cars trunks full of ballots to help Murphy in NJ.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:48 pmExtrapolating from the numbers I have seen, Youngkin is ahead by about 120,000 votes with only about 300,000 or so remaining to be counted. This suggests that McAuliffe would have to win around 210k of the 300k left, i.e. 70%. That seems like a stretch, given what has gone on the rest of the evening.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:48 pmBREAKING: UVA’s Larry Sabato tells MSNBC that a high-level McAuliffe official called tonight a “bloodbath.”
OK……
Breaking: Fairfax County, Virginia has announced that they are *RE-SCANNING* ballots and will be releasing their vote totals later tonight.
Of course they are.
Even if they change ever Youngkin vote to McAuliffe it probably wouldn’t be enough.
Obudman (9ff85d) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:50 pm“ So the story is going to be that McAuliffe failed to motivate minority and young voters, and just watch Democrats interpret this to mean that they have to double-down on woke.”
Their switch from casting Youngkin as Trump in disguise wasn’t resonating so they pivoted to just going full bore ‘Youngkin is racist’.
After McAuliffe repeatedly got caught lying about CRT in the schools not enough voters were believing him any more.
Obudman (9ff85d) — 11/2/2021 @ 7:53 pmAfter McAuliffe repeatedly got caught lying about CRT in the schools not enough voters were believing him any more.
A quick scan this evening of CNN, MSNBC, and various other lefty news outlets yields a whole lot of whining that CRT is just a bogeyman made up by right wing meanies. Talk about gaslighting.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:03 pmWinsome E. Sears, the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor, is an immigrant from Jamaica (at the age of six), a former Marine, married with three children, quite religious — and is running slightly behind Youngkin in votes, slightly ahead of him in percentages.
She already has a string of “firsts”.
Here’s her Wkipedia biography.
Jim Miller (edcec1) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:10 pmOh, and the Republican candidate for attorney general, Jason Miyares, is a Cuban-American.
Now that’s an old-fashioned balanced ticket! (Arranged by Youngkin?)
Jim Miller (edcec1) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:17 pmCRT is just a bogeyman made up by right wing meanies. There are dozens of people actually teaching it, out of 350 million.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (1367c0) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:20 pmWhen Amanda Chase fell by the wayside, everything became possible.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:23 pmIf I found a 50 bill that I didn’t sweat for to earn, id bet Ciaterreli’s pct exceeds Youngkin’s pct at counting’s end.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:26 pmUPDATE 8:23 pm – A brief word about New Jersey: Kyle Smith points out that Jack Ciattarelli has a 72,000 vote lead over incumbent governor Phil Murphy right now. Some of the northern counties which tend to run heavily Democrat have not yet reported (gee, big surprise: Democrat counties not reporting their results until after midnight) but there are some crazy things going on elsewhere. For example, in Gloucester County Murphy won four years ago by 13 points. Tonight he finds himself behind by 10 points in that county, with 97 percent of the vote counted. Though I think most prognosticators expect Murphy to pull this one out, it will probably be a very unimpressive win considering that Democrats outnumber Republicans in the state by over one million voters.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:28 pmTrunks being emptied down across the Hudson and in Camden…damn…but will it do the trick?
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:29 pmThese are the results right now per CNN:
In VA, Trump lost by 10 yet Youngkin is up by 2.7.
In NJ, Trump lost by 16 yet Ciattarelli up by 1.2, with 70% in. The Italian guy is up!
Here’s my hot take.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:31 pmThe voters rejected Trump in 2020, but in 2021 the voters are rejecting the wokey SWJ Bernie Biden AOC big-spending CRT liberalism coming from the Democrats. America wants centrist, non-nutty (read non-Trumpy) governance. Tonite is a great electoral night for traditional conservatism, and this is not a victory for Trump, much as he’d like to take credit for it. The voters already said their piece about Trump a year ago.
CRT is just a bogeyman made up by right wing meanies. There are dozens of people actually teaching it, out of 350 million.
Well, I can either take your word for it or I can believe the massive amount of investigative journalism that Christopher Rufo has done over the past year. I think I know where I fall in that choice.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:32 pmI concur with Mr. Montagu.
And the Italian guy should be up in NJ.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:38 pmBrandon and Intersectionality Bingo:
“Ruh-roh”.
norcal (b9a35f) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:44 pmOff-topic, but hey, it’s my post: MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, the guy who chose to move the MLB All-Star Game from Atlanta to Denver in light of the new Georgia voting laws, was just booed lustily by Braves fans in Houston as he handed the World Series trophy to the winners. I had hoped that the Braves would win on Sunday night in Atlanta, because I would have absolutely loved to have heard 45,000 fans give it to him. He deserves a “Let’s go, Manfred!” cheer.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:50 pmBut late 1980s vintage intersectional bingo on the R slate brought it home in VA.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:51 pmThat McAuliffe “we’re still counting” speech was interesting. His daughter looked like she didn’t think they can find enough votes to fix the problem.
frosty (f27e97) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:53 pmSo where will be the parade? Maybe they do it New York Islanders style on the 285 instead of in Atlanta proper.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:54 pm“All of the people on MSNBC convincing themselves that all of these VA voters — who voted for Biden a year ago! — are idiots, racists, and/or dupes is pretty wild.” – Jonah Goldberg tonight.
Comment: “Jonah has his lines in the water hoping to find a way to get pulled back into the Republican party. The Lincoln Project doesn’t look like the job opportunity he thought it might be.”
Obudman (9ff85d) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:55 pm@51 if youngkin and ciattarelli were down you’d be blaming trump
JF (e1156d) — 11/2/2021 @ 8:57 pmLOL
BuDuh (4a7846) — 11/2/2021 @ 9:01 pmProbably just a slip of the finger, but I’ll remind everyone that the population of the United States is now about 331 million.
Jim Miller (edcec1) — 11/2/2021 @ 9:02 pmJack Ciattarelli’s lead is now down to fewer than 6,000 votes with 25% still left to be tabulated, so it would seem like Phil Murphy is about to take the lead, shortly after midnight as I predicted earlier.
Someday maybe it will be the Republican-leaning counties whose votes end up coming in way later than the rest of the state. Yeah, I know: fat chance!
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 9:11 pmOff topic? On topic? Seattle’s nonpartisan election has three key races, each pitting a rational leftist against a crazy leftist. At present, all three rational leftists are leading, Bruce Harrell for mayor, Ann Davison for city attorney, and Sara Nelson for Council position 9.
(The recall election for Trotskyite city council member Kshama Sawant is scheduled for December 7th.)
Jim Miller (edcec1) — 11/2/2021 @ 9:13 pmMan, just like the Harold Washington mayoral races in Chicago (1983 and 1987), count the SW and NW side white et-nik wards first and then count from the other parts last.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/2/2021 @ 9:14 pmDon’t speak too soon, Jim.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 9:47 pmHarrell (who was outside linebacker when I matriculated at the UW) has a commanding lead. I take this as the voters of the city of my birth coming to its senses. Finally.
To me, this makes all the clearer that voters don’t want Trump or Trumpism, but they also don’t want the left-wing snake oil offered by the progressive/socialist claque. Moderates and traditional conservatives prevailed tonite!
Looks like lessons aren’t being learned and people are knee-jerking…
“The voters rejected Trump in 2020”
The vote-counters did. And yet somehow Republicans held onto every single contested seat in non-statewide races in Democrat strongholds, almost as though all the fraud was happening at the state level.
“but in 2021 the voters are rejecting the wokey SWJ Bernie Biden AOC big-spending CRT liberalism coming from the Democrats.”
Here’s a hotter take: The voters got a very painful yearlong lesson on the difference between what Democrats say they stand for and what they actually stand for. They certainly won’t reject Trump a second time!
“America wants centrist, non-nutty (read non-Trumpy) governance.”
Nope, everyone with a memory longer than a goldfish can see that Trump’s governance worked, Biden’s governance didn’t. All those people who style themselves Republican Representatives, take notice.
“this is not a victory for Trump, much as he’d like to take credit for it.”
Trump provided the contrast against which the choice between liberalism and himself was clear. Mcauliffe ran the campaign as him against Trump, and people chose the one Trump endorsed. Simple as:
“It is looking like Terry McAuliffe’s campaign against a certain person named “Trump” has very much helped Glenn Youngkin. All McAuliffe did was talk Trump, Trump, Trump and he lost! What does that tell you, Fake News? I guess people running for office as Democrats won’t be doing that too much longer. I didn’t even have to go rally for Youngkin, because McAuliffe did it for me. Thank you to the MAGA voters for turning out big!”
” I would like to thank my BASE for coming out in force and voting for Glenn Youngkin. Without you, he would not have been close to winning. The MAGA movement is bigger and stronger than ever before. Glenn will be a great governor. Thank you to the people of the Commonwealth of Virginia and most particularly, to our incredible MAGA voters!”
“Early indications are that MAGA voters are turning out big for Glenn Youngkin, let’s see what happens. All eyes are on Fairfax, why the delay?”
He’s teaching Republicans how to win, they’re following his example, and trying to tie Trump to them only improves their odds!
“The voters already said their piece about Trump a year ago.”
Yes they did, but the judges weren’t interested in hearing it. Maybe the voters are speaking a little louder now! Maybe having someone who’ll absolutely make a big issue of any future fraud attempts with mail in ballots is scaring them into inaction! Maybe intimidation and bullying is an absolutely necessary skill in politics to keep it clean as well as dirty!
Darkmoneyman (8bf517) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:00 pmNo, the voters did, Socko, so thanks for confirming that you’re just another cultist for Trump.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:04 pm80% reported and Ciattarelli is up almost 20k votes. Now is where the corruption machine comes into play.
I did my part and got at least a few hundred votes for Ciattarelli to try and unseat the corrupt wannabe king.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:06 pm83% in and Ciattarelli is up 42k votes. Almost all of Newark is already in. Going to be harder for Murphy to find the votes. Let’s see if NJ lives up to its Soprano state name.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:33 pmUPDATE 10:30 pm – I’m calling it a night, but the NY Times has the latest New Jersey numbers with Ciattarelli at 50.6% and Murphy at 48.7%, with 83% of the vote counted. I have no idea where the 17% of the uncounted vote is located, but I am assuming it is in pro-Democrat urban areas. Still, a very unexpected showing for the GOP in New Jersey, suggesting the Democrats need to rethink the agenda they have been pursuing for the past 9 months.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:34 pmNoted twerp and jerkoff Dana Milbank joins Chris Cillizza in the butt-hurt at the shellacking Democrats just took in Virginia. He blames it on Washington DC Democrats being unable to come together and pass meaningful legislation, and declares that they are letting Joe Biden down, not stopping to consider whether President Biden’s mediocre mind and sadly lacking leadership abilities might not be contributing greatly to the problem. Milbank is also just certain that the proposed Biden spending orgy would already be paying dividends had it been passed a couple of months ago, suggesting that he truly is a Democrat hack masquerading as a journalist. And it’s fun to read the comments from all of the broken-hearted progressives who view Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema as the Grinches who have stolen Christmas.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:48 pmespecially when Democrats pursue one of their reckless woke hobby-horses.
The Democrats are pursuing ALL of their reckless woke hobby-horses.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:50 pmPlus the emergence of a “Doesn’t_Need_Trump” wonderboy for 2024.
Trump can sink any candidate that he choose to sink, if the election is at all competitive.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:52 pmThe media is going to have to turn its attention away from Virginia and realize that New Jersey is the actual surprise race of this election cycle.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:54 pmIn the VA name race, I would give the edge to Winsome Sears over Princess Blanding.
But no points for truth-in-advertising. Maybe she was winsome once.
OTOH, you gotta believe she gets an A+ from the NRA
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:56 pmand just watch Democrats interpret this to mean that they have to double-down on woke.
I want to invest in cowbell futures for both parties.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/2/2021 @ 10:59 pmHis daughter looked like she didn’t think they can find enough votes to fix the problem.
Has she looked in the car truck yet?
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/2/2021 @ 11:01 pm“The media is going to have to turn its attention away from Virginia and realize that New Jersey is the actual surprise race of this election cycle.”
Only a big surprise to you that PEOPLE HATE THE DEMOCRATS, THEIR INCOMPETENT GOVERNANCE, THEIR PETTY GAMES, AND THEIR FAKE VACCINE MANDATES LIKE POISON AND WILL DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO STOP THEM AS SOON AS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, unless you’ve curated your timeline and started taking TV news seriously for some reason.
They also hate fraudsters, and the vote fraud which we saw so memorably in 2020 is still possible in both Jersey and Virginia, (though the sweeps may be comprehensive enough and the outside financial pressure small enough that they don’t risk it as hard this time around.)
Reality Facerubber (7bd0d4) — 11/2/2021 @ 11:13 pmAnd that’s what makes you a cultist, Socko. You have no evidence of serious fraud anywhere. Trump is lying to you, and you’re the gullible fool who’s still buying his Big Lie, irrespective of any real facts.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/2/2021 @ 11:23 pmHey, Paul, 30 years from now we’ll find out that the election of 2020 really was stolen. You’ll see. And THEN Trump will be reinstated!
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/2/2021 @ 11:37 pmI hope that the process for validating the provisional ballots is rigorous and lawful. NOT the time to be “liberal” in accepting votes.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 12:09 amThe only people happier that corporate establishment clinton democrat lost then republicans is AOC and the squad. It wasn’t republicans that stopped bernie sanders from getting the nomination ;but corporate establishment clinton democrats and the DNC.
asset (e6680a) — 11/3/2021 @ 1:54 amhttps://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2021/11/02/the-va-gop-sweep-proves-excellence-and-issues-trump-status-quo-and-race-baiting-n468841
mg (8cbc69) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:41 amCongrats to the commonwealth of Virginia.
Biden never won, they stole it from Americans.
mg (8cbc69) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:44 amCurtis Sliwa conceded early last night and announced his support of Eric Adams (his success) as he had indeed said he would do if he lost – the Associated Press had declared Eric Adams the winner ten minutes after the polls closed (this is based on exit polls, plus a few returns showing that the exit polls are not all wrong)
In Virginia, Youngkin gave a victory speech. The New Jersey Governor’s race is within 1,000 votes and nobody knows which votes remain to be counted – every county, and even parts of counties, does it differently regarding whether they count absentee ballots first. There’s one place where a large number of minority (Democratic) votes remain to be counted.
In Nassau County in New York the Republican, a career prosecutor, Anne Donnely, won the race for District Attorney against Todd Kaminsky, a State Senator who voted for bail reform in 2019 – he says he wasn’t the chief backer and modified the proposed law before it passed, (or was it after?). Or maybe it is still too close to call. The race for county executive is more for the Democrat.
There are some upsets or near upsets in New Jersey. Some lost legislative seats of the Democrats, and the president of the State Senate is on the verge of losing his seat to a virtual unknown truck driver who reported spending all of $153 on his campaign.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:45 amNot enough Americans were gullible enough to vote for the cellar dweller. It was fixed, stupid.
mg (8cbc69) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:45 amThe World Series went into November, and Election Day. It was played without the designated hitter, which may be made universal.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:49 amKevin M # 73: The Democrats are pursuing ALL of their reckless woke hobby-horses.
Some more than others, no?
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:51 amhttps://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/11/trump-derangement-syndrome.php
mg (8cbc69) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:55 amYou people are losers.
Decent outcome for the VA governors race. If Dems and the GOP run the same okay going forward the GOP can do pretty well.
Time123 (9f42ee) — 11/3/2021 @ 4:37 amYou know who really won yesterday? Normal people! People who don’t really care about ‘transgenderism,’ but don’t think that other people should be forced to accept it, or their daughters subjected to males in dresses in the locker room. People who aren’t racist and have nothing against blacks, but don’t want the public schools teaching their kids that they are all guilty from birth if they happen to be white. People who support the public schools, but expect the public schools to teach facts and not leftist ideology.
The libertarian, but not Libertarian, Dana (61384a) — 11/3/2021 @ 4:40 amMr Snowman wrote:
No, but she was wearing a really short dress under that raincoat, so it was all good. 🙂
The libertarian, but not Libertarian, Dana (61384a) — 11/3/2021 @ 4:44 amI remember saying in 2016 that nominating Trump would lead to defeat. I was wrong. I said his domination of the GOP would lead to a long term shift left. I think I was wrong.
I’m no genius (apparently), and I know I’m not the first to realize Hillary wanted Trump to be her opponent. She wanted to force the GOP into chaos, to divide its coalition. Guys like me, nevertrumpers who like Bushvs guys like Trump’s fans. For the same reason, the GOP wants the democrats to be defined by AOC and the like. We want the other side’s coalition to be defined by the least palatable, the most controversial. A lot of democrats were on board with hillary. They pumped Trump up to 11 with free press worth billions in exposure. They laughed at the GOP’s division, Cruz vs Rubio vs Jeb vs Walker… all those candidates Hillary didn’t want to face couldn’t beat Trump. For a lot of reasons, Trump won anyway. Hillary was an awful candidate, sure, but also Trump appeals to people who are angry with the status quo more than they care that he’s repulsive. The loudest Trump fans love that he’s repulsive, and that’s who we all engage with the most, but that’s what Hillary forsaw. The non-trolly Trump voter is just being cynical, not hostile.
So here we are today, Terry McAullife tried the same losing strategy again, even dumber. Paint the GOP as Trump, mail out fliers with Trump endorsing Youngkin, get those idiots to cosplay as tiki torch nazis, just define the GOP in the worst way, and run on that. All Youngkin had to do was stay out of the fray and talk about the boring issues.
Dustin (150498) — 11/3/2021 @ 5:33 amI was sure I’d wake up this morning to news that McAuliffe had found the votes he needed in early voting or late reporting districts.
The results there lower my cynicism a bit. Now the question is what Youngkin actually does. A decent politician that wins an election and puts effort into delivering on campaign promises would go a long way to turning down the noise.
frosty (f27e97) — 11/3/2021 @ 5:49 amNorthern Virginia voter here, with plenty of friends in Fairfax and Loudoun counties, most of whom have school-aged children. Do not let anyone tell you that the behavior of the Loudoun County school board wasn’t a big factor in the election. It was. Plenty of people who voted for Biden because they couldn’t countenance Trump reversed course because of the school board.
If you still don’t think this is the case, look at a Republican challenger, Miyares, taking down the incumbent Democrat for VA Attorney General. Miyares hammered Herring over rising violence – especially in schools – and made what should have been a slam-dunk win for the Democrats a really tight race.
Watch the media NOT talk about one black politician – Winsome Sears. Unless they try to coin a term for a female Uncle Tom…
Hoi Polloi (ade50d) — 11/3/2021 @ 5:52 amI wonder how much Democrat mega-donors paid Trump for that endorsement of Youngkin.
nk (1d9030) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:05 am@96 They are already way ahead of you. It’s not as common but Aunt Jemima is the usual derogation.
frosty (f27e97) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:11 amThat is the Trumpy cultist POV.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:13 amWho’s “they”, mg?
Mr Polloi wrote:
Two comments from the former Clinton bag man were telling: that parents shouldn’t be able to determine what’s taught in schools, which everyone heard about, but, more recently, his statement that 80% of public school teachers were white, and that was too many, because only 50% of public school students are white.
It didn’t take much to get people wondering, why are only 50% of students white, when Virginia’s population is 67.63% white? Private schools are expensive, and the public schools have to be pretty bad if that many white parents are sending their kids to private schools!
The libertarian, but not Libertarian, Dana (61384a) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:22 am#94 Dustin – You might find this election analysis of interest:
As Tim Miller goes on to say, there are opportunities for the Democrats — but they didn’t take them.
Jim Miller (edcec1) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:24 amIn more good news, a teacher who quit his job after being photographed outside the Capitol on January 6th has won a seat on the Braintree School Board.
The libertarian, but not Libertarian, Dana (61384a) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:30 amSaw this last night:
“Don’t underestimate the remorse vote of upscale suburban Biden voters. They traded mean tweets for a country unrecognizable from a year ago. Too late now but these votes are quasi-mea culpas.”
Obudman (9ff85d) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:31 am“Who’s “they”, mg?”
You know darn well the Democrat Party machine always tries whatever fraud it can get away with, it’s been documented repeatedly and your lame assertions of ‘NO EVIDENCE THAT’ fall flat in the face of their numerous documented shenanigans around vote counting and vote reporting in every single other election.
If the Democrats and their lawyers are willing to protect criminals and liars fanatically and uncompromisingly on school boards and in school curricula, why is it so far-fetched to assume they’re doing it in the electoral processes they control?
“You know who really won yesterday? Normal people! People who don’t really care about ‘transgenderism,’ but don’t think that other people should be forced to accept it, or their daughters subjected to males in dresses in the locker room. People who aren’t racist and have nothing against blacks, but don’t want the public schools teaching their kids that they are all guilty from birth if they happen to be white. People who support the public schools, but expect the public schools to teach facts and not leftist ideology.”
All of them the same basic Trump voting demographics, but you left out “people who hate vaccine mandates.” Also I’ll give credit to the fact that the Defense Industry Inc. people in Fairfax are probably still sore about losing out on those Afghanistanbux.
Realanalyster (5d32e7) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:32 amHere’s another example of Seattle coming back to moderation, and its senses.
Anyone driving around Seattle knows that the vagrancy/hobo problem isn’t confined to the downtown area, it’s citywide and a huge problem. Seattleites want their law enforcement.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:35 amYou know darn well the Democrat Party machine always tries whatever fraud it can get away with, it’s been documented repeatedly…
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:38 amIt hasn’t been documented, Socko.You have no evidence of serious fraud. You can’t even name a single person behind the “steal”. Name some names and prove they’re behind this conspiracy. Show me the illegal ballots.
And the attempt by Ilhan Mynett and Keith bin Ellison to replace the Minneapolis Police Department failed at the ballot box, by a wide margin.
The libertarian, but not Libertarian, Dana (61384a) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:45 amI think that when the fever subsides people will realize that McAuliffe lost because he is a sleazeball camouflaging himself with the fig leaf of wokeness. But it may take a while. A year later, many people still refuse to accept that Trump lost because he is a sleazeball camouflaging himself with the fig leaf of patriotism. Although, if Stormy is to be believed, he only needs a smaller than average fig leaf.
nk (1d9030) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:51 amIn Buffalo, the write-in candidate (who’s an incumbent gunning for a 5th term) is kicking the crap out of his socialist opponent.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/3/2021 @ 7:13 amModerate wins again.
Yeah but that sleazeball was governor of VA before, in fact, just four years before when – thanks to VA laws – he couldn’t seek re-election and had to let Gov. Blackface have his turn.
So…something happened to him in the four years since he last resided in the VA gov mansion.
He got really lazy. He just ran on “Youngkin = Trump” and figured people would vote for him.
Hoi Polloi (ade50d) — 11/3/2021 @ 7:22 am@108 Voters have a long history of voting for sleazeballs. Nixon, LBJ, Kennedy and Kennedy, etc. It seems to be the norm.
I think the real issue is the camouflaging. How stupid is it for an elected official to come remotely close to voters shouldn’t get involved in issues. McAuliffe made the mistake of saying the D’s internal dialog out load, i.e. elect us, pay your taxes, and STFU.
frosty (f27e97) — 11/3/2021 @ 7:39 am“It hasn’t been documented, Socko.You have no evidence of serious fraud.”
Oh, it’s ‘SERIOUS’ fraud now, is it? Who defines ‘serious?’ Moving the goalposts are we?
“You can’t even name a single person behind the “steal”.”
UH…UH…WELL…UH…WHY DON’T YOU *NAME* THE EXACT CONSPIRATORS TO A SPECIFIC CRIME BEFORE ANY INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN DONE…CALL YOUR SHOTS, BRO!
Every Democrat state Attorney general has signed their names to various documents attesting to support for weakening ballot protections and accepting questionable ballots. The names of their underlings and co-conspirators are easy to track.
“Name some names and prove they’re behind this conspiracy. Show me the illegal ballots.”
They were extensively documented in the recent Arizona audit, which did indeed find fraudulent ballots at numbers beyond the number of votes between candidate.
You haven’t read it but declared it over on no evidence. Based on that fact alone, I name YOU as one of the confirmed conspirators, since anyone who aids and abets the conspiracy is a conspirator by definition.
Realanalyst (2b7f63) — 11/3/2021 @ 7:47 amThe real question for me…who is Illinois’s Youngkin or Ciatarelli? Which would overcome JB?
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/3/2021 @ 7:48 amYour claim about the AZ audit is a lie.
Time123 (9f42ee) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:13 amWhat the election says to me is that a Trumpian platform, without Trump, is a winner. Winsome Sears, for one example. A populist revolt never lasts all that long, but it can be powerful when the establishment is as terrible as ours is. Trump ignited it out of widespread discontent, but is probably not the person to bring the reforms. I hope that he has the sense to stand aside, although I doubt he will.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:19 amThe only people happier that corporate establishment clinton democrat lost then republicans is AOC and the squad. It wasn’t republicans that stopped bernie sanders from getting the nomination ;but corporate establishment clinton democrats and the DNC.‘
I sure hope you’re right and the Democrats’ platform in next year’s midterms is all about taxing every single item that can possibly be taxed, expensive new social programs which become permanent no matter how ineffective they are, arbitrary government lockdowns that defy scientific reasoning, paying people not to work, half-million dollar payouts to illegal immigrant families who were detained at the border, playing nice with China despite their unleashing a deadly virus on the world, transgender students in high school locker rooms, reparations to the black community distributed by local politicians based upon their own spending priorities, intimidating parents who seek to speak out against school board decisions, isolating Israel internationally while propping up the insane kleptocrats who run the Palestinian Authority, and all of the rest of the brilliant ideas that spew from the far left of the party and quickly become progressive orthodoxy.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:20 amThe real question for me…who is Illinois’s Youngkin or Ciatarelli? Which would overcome JB?
And is it possible in NM? Or even CA? Both states where the GOP seems intent on fighting the Lost Causes.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:21 am@116: I expect them to go for maximal wokeness in 2022. Head Start for infants, a National Lawnmowing Corps, free diapers, a national 25MPH speed limit, Black supremacy and abolition of private schools.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:26 amKevin and JVW, maybe, or maybe they just go with left wing populism and dial back some of the culture war stuff. I sure hope not, because I’m afraid that can win.
Time123 (9f42ee) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:29 amArm-wave all you want, Socko. You got nuthin’.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:34 amThere is fraud in every election, but it is rare, just like it was in 2020. What you have to prove–in order to back up your assertion and your Orange Idol’s Big Lie–is sufficient fraud that would alter the result in not just one battleground state, but in at least two others. You haven’t come close, you’re not even out of the starting gate in a race that was over 10 months ago.
The AZ audit was conducted by bozos who made allegations about 55k questionable ballots but backed up by no facts, no evidence that they were cast illegally, and please don’t bore me with ad hominems.
And I’ll continue to note that you’ve named no names and presented zero evidence of this “steal”. But that’s what you cultists do, which is ignore any facts that contradict the bogus narrative floating around in your hyperpartisan head. Maybe that’s the problem with you fringie Trump sniffers, you can’t distinguish between and allegation and fact.
Admittedly in IL as in CA, it’s more about flipping the General Assembly (state house and Senate). Come to think of it, Bruce Rauner was a much wealthier Youngkin, glided in by Rahm Emanuel and on-fence north shore voters as much as as GY was glided in by big picture NoVA sophisticates, but was stymied by a supermajority D lege. Probably need more of an alley fighter which Ciatarelli seems to be.
NJ and VA are also not saddled with one large city to work around, both can be described as IL without Chicago proper.
urbanleftbehind (c073c9) — 11/3/2021 @ 8:34 amPaul – BOO
mg (8cbc69) — 11/3/2021 @ 9:12 am“You know darn well the Democrat Party machine always tries whatever fraud it can get away with, it’s been documented repeatedly”
No it hasn’t.
Assuming it were true, though, why didn’t the Democrats steal Virginia?
Davethulhu (56c731) — 11/3/2021 @ 10:14 amWho’s “they”, mg? Scare up some names. Evidence, too.
Paul Montagu (5de684) — 11/3/2021 @ 12:00 pmAdmittedly in IL as in CA, it’s more about flipping the General Assembly
You’re going to need a heck of a lever to flip the CA legislature. Last I looked Dems had 2/3rds in each house.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 12:05 pm111. frosty (f27e97) — 11/3/2021 @ 7:39 am
Pay your taxes was Murphy.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/3/2021 @ 12:06 pmThw New York Daily News printed returns as of 12:05 am/ hey were Eric Adams 67% ans Curtis Sliwa 28%, which would be a good showing over generic Republican. And Sliwa doesn’t like Trump, although nothing came up about that.
The Republican candidate also probably won for Nassau County executive, as well as District Attorney.
I heard no results so far for the constitutional amendments, (there never is, the next day) and mayor of Buffalo will not be known for a few weeks. They can only count fast the total number of write-in votes, not whom that were cast for. Of course a sampling could quickly tell you if they were 90% or 95% for Byron Brown.
Minor misspellings count, according to legal precedent, if the intent of the voter is clear. There is also another write in candidate.
Terry McAuliffe conceded some time ago, by the way.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/3/2021 @ 12:21 pm“Assuming it were true, though, why didn’t the Democrats steal Virginia?”
Because people turned off the msm and listened to their neighbors and watched social media, where the lies were exposed and refuted for all to see.
Still, McAuliffe needs a good deal of credit for being so oblivious to the role of parents in their child’s education. As someone said above, much of what they usually only say in private they said aloud to voters thinking that the news media agreeing with them (as well as cheerleading) would be enough to get over. Not this time.
Obudman (d2f86d) — 11/3/2021 @ 1:43 pmBrian Fletcher, Amicus Curiae
What does “right” and “bear” mean in that sentence then?
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 1:58 pmWhat does “arms” mean?
The Supreme Court in 2008 somehow limited it to things in common use – which begs the question. The second amendment dealt with collective self defense. Sme people thought it also applied to self defense.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:22 pmNJ called for Dems
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 4:13 pmOTOH, the GOP picks up 6 House and 1 Senate seat in NJ. Still far from a majority. They had lost 4 House seats in 2020.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/3/2021 @ 4:37 pmAlthough, if Stormy is to be believed, he only needs a smaller than average fig leaf.
nk (1d9030) — 11/3/2021 @ 6:51 am
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norcal (b9a35f) — 11/3/2021 @ 5:11 pmGov Phil Murphy is leading by some 19,000 votes – race was called by many media outlets before 6 pm – will speak in a while.
A Republican won the county attorney race in Seattle.
Heard Bill O’rely on Hannity radio show – he routinely gets something wrong. He said proposal number one was going down to defeat, so I assume he saw some returns – but it was not about allowing non citizens to vote. It was something to facilitate gerrymandering by weakening an earlier reform.
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/3/2021 @ 7:42 pmWe’re getting away from election news – and also updates about Alec Baldwin.
The maytor of Buffalo won easily in a write-in declaring victory Tuesday night and his opponent conceded on Wednesday.
The Republicans at least tied in the Virginia House of Delegates.
Lots of down ballot races in many places, including a few in New York City, went Republican.
I have a new theory about Alec Baldwin’s gun based on what the armorer says.
When they borrowed the guns, or before, first they tried to steal bullets. Nobody was counting how many they used. They discovered they had taken blanks and put the right number of bullets back – but one at least was not a blank.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 11/4/2021 @ 2:06 pmWell that stinks.
Time123 (9f42ee) — 11/4/2021 @ 2:10 pm86. Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/3/2021 @ 2:45 am
This was an inaccuracy that the truck driver said illustrated his point about New Jersey government.
The media took it from a NJ government web site. But that was from a report dated May or June. $153 is the amount spent up to that time in the Republican primary. $66 at a Bunkin Donuts and the rest for flyers etc.
In reality, by November or so, he had spent around $10,000.
He shot a campaign video using a smartphone. /
Sammy Finkelman (c49738) — 11/5/2021 @ 9:01 am