Ruling: No, New Amnesty Provisions Are Not Allowed to Be Part of Reconciliation
Bad news for Democrats from the Senate parliamentarian:
Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough on Sunday dealt a significant blow to Democrats’ hopes of including a pathway to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants – ruling that they can’t include it in their $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill.
Democrats are seeking to pass the massive spending bill via the budget reconciliation process – which allows them to avoid a Senate filibuster and pass the legislation with just 50 votes.
As part of this bill, Democrats had sought to include a number of immigration provisions, including a pathway to legal permanent residence and citizenship for a number of categories of illegal immigrants. Those eligible included recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, those who are protected by Temporary Protected Status, farmworkers, and those deemed “essential workers.”
It was seen as Democrats’ best chance of passing pathways to citizenship for illegal immigrants, after efforts to pass a sweeping immigration reform bill earlier in the year stalled in the face of Republican opposition.
Given the 50/50 split in the Senate, Democrats would have needed to get 10 Republican votes to overcome a filibuster, and Republicans have largely snubbed efforts to grant legal status to illegal immigrants – citing the effect they believe it would have on the already surging crisis at the southern border.
But in a preliminary ruling, MacDonough ruled that such language was inappropriate for a budget reconciliation bill.
The crisis at the border is real. Fox News’s Bill Melugin has been covering the throngs of illegal immigrants gathering in Del Rio. The images are stunning:
NEW: We are back underneath the international bridge in Del Rio, TX, this morning, where up to 12,000 migrants are still camped out after crossing into the US illegally. Conditions here are similar to a third world refugee camp. @TxDPS has secured area while BP works. @FoxNews pic.twitter.com/HKFPYuZZMp
— Bill Melugin (@BillFOXLA) September 20, 2021
This has all been caused by the Biden administration sending the message to Latin America that the U.S. is open to those who don’t go through the legal process. The notion of a legal process almost seems like a joke these days, but there are still some people who do it. They file their applications, take their tests, and go through an inspirational ceremony that brings tears to the eyes of anyone who witnesses it. Suckers.
I can only hope both spending package gets nuked.
Democrats and media will try to blame Republicans, but I’m not sure that’ll stick as they’re the minority party.
whembly (1a398e) — 9/20/2021 @ 9:26 amRelated:
Biden administration speeds up deportation flights for Haitians in growing Texas migrant camp
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 9/20/2021 @ 9:41 amIf the Democrats don’t like the Parliamentarian’s ruling, they can do what Trent Lott did in 2001.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 9/20/2021 @ 9:43 amI’ve been to the Dominican Republic to a resort. But, we had to drive for 4 hours through the country and we saw abject poverty and how the natives live.
I was told that Haiti is so bad, they consider the DR heaven. But, the DR military has walls and patrols their Haitian/DR borders to prevent the even poorer Haitians from emigrating into DR.
That’s the dynamic we’re facing. So, what can we (US/World) can do to make it so that Haitians don’t have to make that trek to try to get into the US? (which is making human traffikers billions)
whembly (1a398e) — 9/20/2021 @ 9:49 amThis should not even have been a question. Had it been allowed, then ANYTHING would be allowed. The thrice-damned voting “rights” bill, for example.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 9:59 amIf the Democrats wanted to get *some* immigration bill through, granting residency and citizenship possibilities to those in the DACA group who had served in the armed forces might get through. BUt they have repeatedly refused to do that.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:01 amSo, what can we (US/World) can do
Well, invasion and nation-building are something we “can” do. The problems in Haiti are mostly due to Haitians and history. Their successful slave revolution did not come with any good guide to how to govern, other than force and terror.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:05 amBut probably not something se “should” do.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:06 amThe notion of a legal process almost seems like a joke these days
This is a problem. Trump was very much no good here, but Biden is really no better. At this point in time, neither party supports the Rule of Law; nor does much of the population if polls about the vaccine mandate on private entities can be believed.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:09 amBiden seems to be handling the illegal immigrant surge quite well. Promises made, promises kept.
And his deft handling of the France-Australia foreign policy issue? Deft. So glad our standing in the international arena is restored. Promises made, promises kept.
Hoi Polloi (998b37) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:18 amThe best thing the Democrats can do to get their “path to citizenship” passed is to cloister Ilhan Omar. She is a walking argument against it. I don’t know what they can do about Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, though.
nk (1d9030) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:20 amRepublicans want illegals. For the cheap labor. But they want them to stay illegal. To keep the labor cheap.
nk (1d9030) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:23 amRepublicans want illegals. For the cheap labor. But they want them to stay illegal. To keep the labor cheap.
So do Democrats, who own much of main street and the farmland. They just want them to vote, too. As we have seen, being a citizen does not preclude people from being exploited.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:34 am@12
I really thinks is the fact that Democrats wants to grant citizenships vs Republicans agreeing to residency, but no citizenship.
Democrats see this as an electoral win. That’s all.
whembly (1a398e) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:50 amYou bought him. You own him.
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:54 amAmerica’s Biggest Owner Of Farmland Is Now Bill Gates
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielshapiro/2021/01/14/americas-biggest-owner-of-farmland-is-now-bill-gates-bezos-turner/?sh=ff134cd6096f
It’s quite an interesting list.
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 11:06 amOn the other hand, Biden cannot continue the Trump policies.
Yes there was this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/federal-judge-in-texas-blocks-bidens-efforts-to-limit-immigration-arrests/2021/08/19/673e43f4-011f-11ec-ba7e-2cf966e88e93_story.html
But there is also this:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/16/politics/federal-judge-blocks-administration-expulsion-of-migrant-families/index.html
Senator Durban says they have an alternative plan ad alternatives to that.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/9/20/22684060/dick-durbin-alternative-proposal-dreamer-immigration-budget-bill
You could call it Plan B and plan C etc (proposals that they will try to get past the Parliamentarian) except that using reconcilation is already Plan B.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 11:11 amI really thinks is the fact that Democrats wants to grant citizenships vs Republicans agreeing to residency, but no citizenship.
There needs to be a cost for illegal entry, at least for adults. Their kids will be citizens; that should be enough.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 11:56 amYou bought him. You own him.
You bought Trump and you still pull for him. I’d think you’d be too embarrassed to go here. But no.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 11:58 amAmerica’s Biggest Owner Of Farmland Is Now Bill Gates
At some point in the near future, food will be more valuable than oil. Someone has to feed the 7 billion.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:02 pmMy heart goes out to these refugees. I’m Jewish, and the story of MS St Louis is in my memory. Isn’t there something that a great nation can do other than cast these people out? The Haitians that I’ve known were pretty much regular decent humans. I admit that I’m too soft headed, but it seems to me that the best country on earth could find something other than expulsion.
Fred (10416e) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:07 pmI admit that I’m too soft headed, but it seems to me that the best country on earth could find something other than expulsion.
At some point you must say: this many and no more. When is that point, and why is your argument not valid then, too?
Alternatively, you can go back to the 19th century rules and allow anyone to come so long as they are healthy
and not Chinese. But you also will have to go back to the 19th century public welfare system, which is to say: none to speak of.You cannot have open borders and a strong safety net at the same time.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:12 pmI really thinks is the fact that Democrats wants to grant citizenships vs Republicans agreeing to residency, but no citizenship.
They’ll get citizenship in the end, but I don’t think even a 12-year period from legalization (which might be short enough not to be changed later) will satisfy the Republicans. One reason Democrats don’t like it is the jeopardy they are in if they break the law. This alsocreates situations like different plea bargains being negotiated.
Also, what counts is the number of people counted in the Census, But even that win;t affect anything until past 2030/
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:42 pmThe Haitians should head for Chappaqua.
mg (8cbc69) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:45 pmWhat about Epstein Island? Nobody home at that dump.
mg (8cbc69) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:46 pm@19. =yawn= You still don’t get it; or won’t accept it: it’s a win-win. Neutering the modern ideological conservative movement into irrelevancy was the goal. Welcome to 1964.
Glorious.
_____
Trump was a better show than Joe, Kevin. Ask CNN about the ratings. 😉
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:48 pmUntil we don’t. Say hello to de-population. Coming to a planet near you sooner than you think.
Hoi Polloi (121542) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:51 pmFred (10416e) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:07 pm
Of course it can.
What’s more, it inflicts economic damage to the United States. A lot of provisions of immigration law are based n a crackpot economic theory used no place else. The only real effect is sociological/
20,000 people are treated like they were 2 million.
Tooo many people can;t get their heads around the fact that immigration law is not like other laws and the same attitudes toward people breaking them or toward enforcing them don’t apply.
The same thing applied to slavery. Freeing only slaves who escaped doesn’t require you to free all the slaves, but it can greatly ameliorate the worst evils of slavery.
And most of thise in the pipeline have spent years n Brazil or Chile (but economic conditions worsened or they have family in the United States)
Now they sacrifice a lot to come. They pass through a part of Panama where gangs can:
1) Charge a fee for safe passage
2) Steal everything they can
3) Rape the women.
Not so much kill people because the smugglers will be angry at them. They do depend on reputation or repeat business
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:51 pm18 Wheeler Joe has passed the buck and parked this rig in “what’s-her-name’s” driveway.
Where is she?
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:54 pmAt some point in the near future, food will be more valuable than oil. Someone has to feed the 7 billion.
Bond villains go for the water.
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:55 pmKevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2021 @ 11:56 am
Restrictionists point out that because people care about their children, that creates a perpetual incentive for illegal immigration.
They don’t believe in a one time amnesty with a cutoff date because they say it won;t be one time.
They want illegal immigration to be stopped before amnesty, which is unrealistic (unless the United States becomes a much worse place to live) Even if it were realistic it’s not realistic politically.
The Democrats are not willing to make good arguments.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:56 pmAt some point you must say: this many and no more.
Are you saying the boat is full?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 9/20/2021 @ 12:57 pmWhen the powers that be wall off the Capitol to keep U.S. citizens out yet leave the border wide open to let illegals break in, the Royalists are to blame.
If you are illegally breaking in to the United States, the solution is simple: shoot them. Wing a few willies, wonkers and woggers and they’d stop PDQ then head for the proper and legal entry points instead of wading ashore across the Rio Grande like it was Normandy beach. Or turn back.
If 12,000 American citizens stormed Capitol Hill, Nancy and Chuck would have the guards rat-a-tat-Babbitt them without losing sleep.
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:02 pmBiden administration to raise refugee cap to 125,000 for 2022
The Biden administration is planning to raise the refugee cap for fiscal year 2022 to 125,000, according to a source familiar with the decision, in line with the goal President Joe Biden set.
…….
Earlier this year, the Biden administration flip-flopped on raising the ceiling for fiscal year 2021, and after blowback, raised it to 62,500 people.
But from October through August, only 7,637 refugees were admitted to the US, according to the Refugee Processing Center.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:03 pm…….
The US withdrawal from Afghanistan and subsequent Taliban takeover also resulted in tens of thousands of Afghans fleeing from the country. The Biden administration is working on resetting more than 60,000 Afghans in the US, many of whom will be paroled into the US and don’t count toward the refugee ceiling.
>>>>>>>>>
They even expelled and I think killed some people i 1937. Not all really non-citizens.
I think this was what was behind Trujillo’s offer to take in European Jews.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:08 pmIndia is creating illegal people who aren’t really illegal. They aren;t post I think 1951 immigrants or the descendants of one but they don;t have many documents.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/11/opinion/india-assam-stateless-bengalis-muslim.html
https://time.com/6092299/india-anti-immigrant-crackdown-assam
What they really don’t like is the differential in the birth rate.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:09 pmThe far right, not satisfied with the number of illegal immigrants in the United States, wants to create more by re-interesting the citizenship clause of the 14th amendment. You know that’s a trope.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:11 pm‘There’s a hold-up with the shots;
Kabul’s ended freedom flights;
There’s a border glut in Texas;
That’s backed up all crossing sites;
Hunter’s hooker dropped a child;
His laptop videos are wild;
Joseph Robinette Biden where areeeee you?’
Where else: Delaware.
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:19 pmDCSCA #33
As Nixon might say, maybe that would work, although really what you need is land mines, but it would be wrong.
You’re only arguing my point with that: A humane restrictive immigration policy is impossible.
Choose:
Restrictive [ ]
Enforced [ ]
Humane [ ]
You can only pick a maximum of two out of those three.
By the way, I was not aware that the concept of national sovereignty repealed dicta like in the Ten Commandments (also in other places)
By the way, you’re going to get a mixture of all three almost no matter what. You’re not going to be completely inhumane. You’re not going to enforce it to the hilt.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:20 pmCourageous border patrol agents videoed on horseback trying to ‘cowboy’ illegals back into the Rio Grande and stop them storming ashore. When the blitzkrieg stormtrooped into France, the French cavalry was no match for the German tanks either. But the border is “closed,” eh Joe?
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:31 pm@39. Illegals are criminals, Sammy. And ‘humane’ means wing ’em, not kill’em Sammy.
Pain is one helluva deterrent.
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:34 pmhttps://jabberwocking.com/for-the-second-month-border-encounters-topped-200000/
Chart at the link shows the following
1. Trump & Co. were exaggerating illegal immigration. But who cares, we all know he’s a liar.
2. In 2019 Trump also screwed it up, but he’s gone so who cares.
3. The current situation is horrible, Biden appears to have lost completely lost control, and his administration needs to get control asap.
The parlimentarian is 100% correct that this isn’t a reconciliation matter.
Time123 (9f42ee) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:50 pmGee, maybe they should just build a wall.
“D’oh!” – Homer Simpson
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:51 pmWhy is the DHS secretary in Del Rio? This is Kamala’s baby.
Where the hell is Kamala?
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:59 pmFox LA’s Bill Melugin reported earlier Saturday that as of yesterday, there were more than 11,000 illegal immigrants packed under the international bridge, and footage shot from a boat in the Rio Grande showed a steady stream of migrants spilling across to join that crowd. A lot of people seem to remember President Joe Biden putting Vice President Kamala Harris in charge of the border “challenge,” although she never quite made it to the border, instead traveling to Central America to find out the “root causes” of the migration to the United States.
Biden is back in Delaware, but Harris did make a rare appearance Saturday at the inaugural “Truth and Service Classic” football game, where she made the coin toss.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/09/18/quite-the-turnout-heres-where-vice-president-kamala-harris-was-today-while-the-border-was-being-overrun/
Your tax dollars at work:
‘NEW YORK (AP) — Vice President Kamala Harris will visit “The View” studio on Friday for her sixth appearance on the daytime chat show — but her first as vice president. She’ll answer questions about the pandemic, Afghanistan and other topics.
Harris will be questioned by “The View” crew of Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar, Sara Haines, Sunny Hostin and Ana Navarro.
Harris won’t face a conservative panelist, following Meghan McCain’s departure from “The View” this summer. The show is trying out potential replacements, but none is scheduled for Friday.’
A more useless broad you’ll never meet.
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 2:08 pm39. DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 1:34 pm
You can;t just use a word, and apply connotations in one context to another. It’s malum prohibitum, like Prohibition, or for that matter, taxes, not a malum per se.
Now you know no one is that good.
Besides, people in other countries, and real criminals, are already doing that.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 2:10 pm225 miles of unguarded border in Texas. The cartel is making a killing.
mg (8cbc69) — 9/20/2021 @ 2:10 pmThe root causes are:
1) The differential in the wages between Central America and the USA, which is enormous.
2) Lack of personal security, so even if you have something you can’t count on on keeping it.
3) Family in the United States. People rarely leave without a destination in mind, and hope of making a living.
4) Mail and telephone and banking service between those places and the USA, and points in between, and the Internet, including Facebook.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/20/2021 @ 2:17 pm@46. Illegals are criminals, Sammy.
And of course “they’re ‘good’.” Ask an Afghan family. And if a ‘mistake is made,’ just say ‘sorry.’
DCSCA (f4c5e5) — 9/20/2021 @ 2:28 pmBiden W.H.: Unlike Europeans, illegal immigrants don’t need to prove vaccination status because they “are not intending to stay here”
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1440017745509240838?s=21
Obudman (4c6cec) — 9/20/2021 @ 4:23 pmObudman,
that’s amazing.
Lincoln Project has a new ad hammering Abbott for trying to control the Texas border, somehow suggesting it is making COVID worse. The ad makes a big deal out of 60,000 dead Texans, which I agree is a very big deal, but I don’t see how free flowing illegal immigrant camps would reduce the problem.
Immigration is the core issue the democrats handled so badly that they made Trump viable. They are doing it again. Cynically, COVID just gets more ghoulish, immigration uglier, and politics less possible to understand.
Dustin (150498) — 9/20/2021 @ 4:36 pmI’d have trouble answering that question too. Because it’s stupid. And ignorant. And it’s not easy to answer stupid and ignorant questions. We’re deporting them whether they’re vaccinated or not. Because they do not have visas. Visas, capiche? No visa, out, vaccine passport or not. If we suspect them of being infectious, we quarantine them until we remove them.
nk (1d9030) — 9/20/2021 @ 8:39 pmBreaking:
Justin Trudeau will remain prime minister, Canadian TV projects.
Justin Trudeau will remain Canada’s prime minister following the vote in an early election on Monday, Canadian broadcasters projected.
Although many voters in some areas were still stuck in long voting lines, the broadcasters forecast that Mr. Trudeau’s Liberal Party will only hold a minority of seats in the next Parliament.
Rip Murdock (2c90e9) — 9/20/2021 @ 8:54 pm………
……… [H]e focused on telling voters, explicitly or otherwise, that a return to a Conservative government under Mr. O’Toole would wipe away his achievements in a variety of areas including gun control, gender equity, climate change, child care, poverty reduction and, above all, ending the pandemic and getting Canadians vaccinated.
>>>>>>>
Border control is not just about people, it’s also about the drugs.
ColoComment (905a46) — 9/20/2021 @ 10:21 pmhttps://fb.watch/899cxHxkf5/
Say hello to de-population. Coming to a planet near you sooner than you think.
You assume you’ll be one of the one still eating.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/21/2021 @ 8:03 amUnlike Europeans, illegal immigrants don’t need to prove vaccination status because they “are not intending to stay here”
That’s idiotic. Europeans would use deadly force if you tried to make them stay. Illegal “immigrants” are, well, there’s that word “immigrant” that kinda says it.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/21/2021 @ 8:09 amAsking why the government does not require illegal immigrants at the border to be vaccinated is like asking why banks don’t require bank robbers to have carry permits for their guns.
The answer is “42”.
nk (1d9030) — 9/21/2021 @ 8:51 amRIP Angelo Codevilla
Colonel Haiku (a28946) — 9/21/2021 @ 8:59 amhttps://spectator.org/americas-ruling-class/
Colonel Haiku (a28946) — 9/21/2021 @ 8:59 am#57 I’m guessing thats one of the charges brought though and if all else failed and they found the person to be a felon in possession of unregistered firearm, they’d at least charge with violation of parole
steveg (e81d76) — 9/21/2021 @ 7:07 pmThe answer really is 42. 42 U.S. Code Title 42—THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE.
nk (1d9030) — 9/21/2021 @ 7:42 pm, illegal immigrants don’t need to prove vaccination status because they “are not intending to stay here”
Wrong legal theory although it is true vaccinations are generally required only for immigrants not for visitors, not that most infectious diseases care about how long somebody intends or hopes to stay
I think the reason is because getting vaccinated can’t be made a condition of being released into the country, since it is the federal government, and not the would-be immigrant, who chooses who is to be released from custody and who is not, and they hold the maximum number they can and then release them on an emergency basis.
And the people who came up with that talking point propaganda question most likely know it.
They can’t pick and choose who to release by vaccination or antibody status. (and if they did, they’d be spreading Covid, and tried to retain all unvaccinated and non-immune peple, even more than they already are. Confining people together is an excellent way to raise the infection rate)
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/22/2021 @ 8:45 pmnk (1d9030) — 9/20/2021 @ 8:39 pm
Biden appears to be deporting Haitians, or pretending to, provided they entered the country after July 29. Also maybe from other Caribbean countries. But not people from Central America.
Different history and politics.
Leading Democrats, after some deliberation, said the use of horses to keep people in Mexico was horrifying. I think they are pretending to feel that way. Biden doesn’t care any more than he cared that some people dropped off of a plane they were holding into from the outside that was taking off from Kabul. He said it was gut wrenching to see. Maybe but probably not to him.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/22/2021 @ 8:55 pm*errata at 60.
(and if they did, and tried to retain all unvaccinated and non-immune people in custody, they’d be spreading Covid, even more than they already are.
Confining people together is an excellent way to raise the infection rate. They apparently got it up 20% with active infections in one case.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/22/2021 @ 8:59 pmNew York Post headline today:
New York Times headline:
Both stories are factual.
I never thought that Joe Biden was such a poor politician.
He’s hoping that some things will only be noticed by one side of the argument, and other things by the other side of the argument.
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Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/23/2021 @ 10:58 amFrom the New York Times article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/22/us/politics/biden-immigration-border-haitians.html
And you know what has happened?
The United States special envoy to Haiti to Haiti has resigned. He was appointed last July after President Jovenel Moïse was killed. He is also acting assistant secretary for international narcotics and law enforcement affairs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/us/politics/haiti-diplomat-resign-biden.html
Because Haiti is not in any condition to take care of these people, many of whom have not lived in Haiti for years.
So what will probably happen is that the United States will give money (laundered through some international organization) to Haiti to (inefficiently) take care of these people.
When they could all be given farmwork visas if Congress allowed it.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/23/2021 @ 11:09 amBiden has no moral compass, and no common sense.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/23/2021 @ 11:10 amThis kind of thing happens when you don’t have any true feelings one way or the other on a matter.
Biden is counting on alack of identical awareness of people on both sides of the issue of all things going on with regard to immigration.
He does want , at least, for his policy, whatever it is, to be “successful.” But he can’t get that.
He just wants the whole thing to go away.
And, whlle it hasn’t taken over all of politics, although maybe one day it could, it’s not going away either.
The opposition and his supporters also, are not helping. Nobody is coming up with good arguments.
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/23/2021 @ 11:18 amAfter several days of deliberation, President Biden came out with this:
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-lashes-out-at-mounted-del-rio-border-patrol-agents-those-people-will-pay
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/24/politics/joe-biden-border/index.html
AS for the migrants, some were released and told to report within 60 days, and some were deported.
Biden is splitting the baby.
And for a third alternative, they are thinking of bringing back the policy of the first Bush Administration,and Clinton building a refugee camp at Guantanamo Bay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_refugee_crisis
Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c) — 9/24/2021 @ 10:01 amThis indicates some of the political pressre iden is comin under:
https://www.scribd.com/document/516603475/Letter-to-President-Biden-From-New-York-Assemblymember-Bichotte-With-Respect-to-Haiti
(most of the Haitians who came to the border now were living in Brazil or Chile and possibly lost their visas or jobs there.
Since you cannot knock the idea out of people’s heads that they have a right to the peaceful pursuit of happiness, any sign of goodwill or that someone in charge is not a bad guy is taken as hope of a reversal of position
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 9/24/2021 @ 11:36 am