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8/3/2021

New York Attorney General’s Report: Andrew Cuomo Harassed At Least Eleven Women

Filed under: General — JVW @ 1:47 pm



[guest post by JVW]

From National Review Online:

New York governor Andrew Cuomo sexually harassed multiple women, among them current and former state employees, in violation of federal and state law, state attorney general Letitia James announced at a press conference on Tuesday.

The announcement represents the conclusions of a months-long probe by the attorney general’s office into sexual harassment allegations made against the governor. Several women have alleged that the governor inappropriately touched them, although Cuomo has denied wrongdoing.

“Governor Andrew Cuomo sexually harassed multiple women and in doing so violated federal and state law,” James told reporters. Cuomo and the Executive Chamber cultivated a “toxic” workplace that allowed “harassment to occur and created a hostile work environment.”

James added that the probe “is civil in nature and does not have criminal consequences.” However, Anne Clark, one of the lead investigators for the probe, said prosecutors may look at the evidence contained in the report and determine whether to press charges.

“All the information is fully documented in the report, and any prosecutors or police departments can look at the evidence and determine if they want to take further action,” Clark said.

The report detailed allegations against Gov. Cuomo by eleven different women. They largely fall along the lines of obnoxious teenage boy garbage such as using a hug as a pretext to cop a quick feel of a woman’s breast or rear end, or forcing kisses on unwilling victims, much of which we have already discussed at this blog.

I had really began to despair that Governor Sonny was going to get away with this behavior, thanks to a notoriously cynical and corrupt political scene in New York and thanks to a lazy and self-satisfied media (with the exception of the New York Post, who has continued to hold Sonny’s feet to the fire) which can’t be bothered when sexual harassment charges are lodged against an otherwise mostly progressive Democrat. But Attorney General James has political ambitions too, and denying Andrew Cuomo a fourth term is the best way to position herself for a future run at the chief executive’s office.

Now it just remains to be seen what the fallout is. I’ve predicted all along that this ends not with the disgraced governor resigning from office, but with an announcement that he will indeed retire when his term is up at the end of next year. But key Democrats, including the President of the United States, are already on record has having opined that Gov. Cuomo should step down if the reports suggests he sexually harassed women, the legislature has opened up an impeachment inquiry regarding his behavior, and Congressional Democrats from the Empire State have begun the process of throwing their embattled governor under the bus. While I am sure Democrats will eventually find a technicality by which to conveniently backtrack on their “believe all women” stance, someone like Joe Biden whose Administration is seeking to narrow the due process rights of college men accused of sex harassment should theoretically have a difficult time explaining why a powerful, well-placed adult like Andrew Cuomo should be given any benefit of the doubt here. Though we should never underestimate the capacity of Democrats and their media guardians to engage in the rankest form of hypocrisy where party interests are in play, there is certainly going to be some reckoning up in Albany over the next few weeks.

– JVW

173 Responses to “New York Attorney General’s Report: Andrew Cuomo Harassed At Least Eleven Women”

  1. Andy McCarthy makes a careful legal and political point at NRO that is worth putting down on the record, even if I have a very strong suspicion everything in Letitia James’s report is largely accurate:

    When prosecutors investigate a case with an eye toward bringing charges, they only formally allege and publicly announce criminal misconduct that they believe they can prove in court beyond a reasonable doubt. Similarly, civil litigants are limited to pleading what they have reason to believe they can establish in court. For these reasons, public charging instruments and pleadings tend to include only part of the misconduct that an investigation has turned up. Frequently, some disturbing incidents that have been uncovered are nevertheless excluded because evidence of them fails to satisfy the criminal or civil standards of proof.

    James and her investigators operated under no such limitations. Since they are not trying to prove a case, they chose not to limit themselves in what they could say publicly. Consequently, if they found misconduct within the four corners of their mandate to examine sexual harassment, they published it.

    This is catastrophic for the governor because most people will accept the findings of an official investigation by a state attorney general, conducted pursuant to state-law authority by well-regarded lawyers, as if these findings had been proven in court. But of course, they haven’t been. There has been no presentation by the defense, no opportunity to cross-examine witnesses, and no other side of the story.

    It was ironic, then, for James to criticize Cuomo and his sympathizers who, she observed, had tried to “politicize” her investigation. This exercise is nothing if not political. Cuomo is a political casualty — he has not even been indicted or sued, much less convicted of a crime or held civilly liable.

    Did I mention that Letitia James is rumored to have gubernatorial aspirations?

    JVW (ee64e4)

  2. Well Grandpoppa Clutch, ol’ Lunchbucket Convoy Joe, called for his resignation at his Covid presser [but wasn’t asked about Doctor Lindsey Graham’s self-diagnosis skills]- yet he dodged questions on prosecution like a semi weaving its way up the freeway.

    And of course nobody asked him about his days driving an 18-wheeler. If it was Trump, the press would demand to see not only his license, but the manifest of what he was haulin’ back in the day.

    Our president is a bum.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  3. Cuomo screwed up. He should’ve used the “it was just locker room talk” excuse.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  4. De Blasio crying crocodile tears.

    Cuomo and Trump have one thing in common: They both think Letitia James is biased.

    That presser was brutal.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  5. When in New York, use The Cuomo Method:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHTPLpY8mBI

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  6. He’s scum and needs to go. I’ve seen congressional leadership say that clearly. Biden needs to do likewise, if not go further.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  7. President Biden has asked Cuomo to step down, according to Wall Street Journal:

    President Biden said Mr. Cuomo should resign, joining renewed calls from Republicans and some Democrats for the third-term Democratic governor to step down.

    Dana (174549)

  8. That creepy montage/collage of Cuomo kissing all those ‘folks’ over the decades was about as useful to his ‘defense’ as that picture was of Oswald holding his rifle in his backyard.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  9. So how would Tony Soprano handle a wiseguy being a wiseguy on camera?

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  10. I think he’s going to be forced out. We’ll see!

    nate (1f1d55)

  11. So killing all those elderly folks made him horny?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. 7… he is so brave. A truly heroic stance.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  13. @12 but was it an unequivocal he’s got to go statement? I don’t think so. Sounds like Biden is pushing Cuomo removal hesitancy. He is probably in favor of Cuomo staying.

    frosty (f27e97)

  14. It’s easy for Democrats to try to put some distance between themselves and the Cuomo stink. Let’s see if ANY of them do ANYTHING to clean it up.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  15. Whats Fredo say?

    mg (8cbc69)

  16. Valerie Biden Owens, the former vice president’s sister, said in an interview that it had long been evident to her that the Bidens and the Cuomos shared a common set of social values that she described as anchored in their Irish and Italian Catholic heritage. Of the elder Gov. Cuomo, Ms. Owens said, “I know my brother respected him greatly.”

    “Both of them speak to, and practice, the basics of Catholic social justice, and that’s how we were raised,” Ms. Owens said.

    It was a few years into the new century — and through a younger generation — that the families developed a tighter bond, when Mr. Cuomo and Beau Biden were elected the attorneys general of New York and Delaware in 2006. In 2017, the former vice president wrote in his memoir that Mr. Cuomo “told me he and Beau used to commiserate about being aspiring politicians who were also the sons of well-known officeholders.” As vice president, Mr. Biden appeared beside Mr. Cuomo in several crucial moments, including during New York’s recovery from Hurricane Sandy.
    Mr. Biden put his political muscle behind Mr. Cuomo in earnest in 2018, helping him against Ms. Nixon. His intervention was problematic for the left: While Ms. Nixon and her allies regularly denounced the Democratic establishment and big donors for lining up behind Mr. Cuomo, they saw little advantage in sparring with a popular figure like Mr. Biden.

    Facing resistance from progressives who viewed him as an iron-fisted centrist, Mr. Cuomo’s team asked Mr. Biden to appear with him at the New York Democratic Party’s convention. Mr. Biden agreed. When they asked Mr. Biden to record a television ad for Mr. Cuomo backstage, he agreed again. When the Cuomo team asked several weeks later if Mr. Biden would record a new ad — the first one was not quite right — he agreed yet again, allowing a film crew into his Delaware home to record a commercial that soon blanketed the airwaves in New York.

    Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, said Mr. Biden’s intervention in the 2018 race had helped Mr. Cuomo secure a third term. She called Mr. Biden’s speech at the state convention an important moment of validation for the governor.

    “Biden is so empathetic and is seen as being such a decent man, and that was very important at that moment for Andrew Cuomo,” said Ms. Weingarten, who like other Democrats, saw a similar, perhaps anachronistic political sensibility binding the two men.

    “Biden is a politician from a different age, when a sense of having somebody’s back, based upon the values you carry and the work you’ve done together, means something,” she said, adding, “That’s something that Cuomo and Biden share very, very deeply.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/biden-cuomo-coronavirus.amp.html

    Paul, you may have your locker room talk wish granted. I imagine these two besties shared most of their groping stories with each other. Biden is a master of the age old game of First BSer Doesn’t Stand A Chance. If Cuomo grabbed one breast, Biden grabbed two. Biden never loses a round of BS.

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  17. He’s awaiting instructions from that fatass Zucker.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  18. Over enhancement for the resume, govna.

    mg (8cbc69)

  19. Seems pretty unequivocal to me.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-cuomo-resign-sexual-harassment-report.amp

    “Let’s take one thing at a time here. I think he should resign,” Biden said… Biden joined a growing number of prominent politicians of both parties who have called on Cuomo to resign following the report’s release, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. James noted the investigation’s findings were “civil in nature,” but left open the possibility that other authorities could pursue criminal cases against the governor.

    “I’m sure there were some embraces that were totally innocent, but apparently the attorney general decided there were things that weren’t,” Biden added regarding Cuomo’s conduct.

    When asked about the allegations against Cuomo last March, Biden called for a full investigation and noted the governor should resign from office if the claims were confirmed by evidence. At the time, Biden added that credible claims against Cuomo could “very well” result in a “criminal prosecution.”

    Biden said he has yet to read the entire report and would not comment on whether Cuomo should now face criminal prosecution.

    Time123 (f78123)

  20. The Governor should’ve listened… https://youtu.be/0w-HpBPJC1I

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  21. “Both of them speak to, and practice, the basics of Catholic social justice, and that’s how we were raised,” Ms. Owens said.

    I’ve spent 51 years in the Catholic Church and I’ve never heard the part of the catechism where you’re encouraged to sniff little girls’ hair or nuzzle their cheek and neck with your nose, nor have I encountered the part where you get to cop a feel during a hug or force a kiss on the face of a comely colleen. And I know a lot of Italian and Irish Catholics who would punch me in the face — and deservedly so — if I did that to their wives or daughters.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  22. “Let’s take one thing at a time here. I think he should resign,” Biden said…

    One thing at a time? What was the item that Biden thought was a bridge too far?

    Oh.. it is within a more complete quote from your link, Time:

    When asked if Cuomo should resign, Biden responded, “Yes.” He declined to comment further on whether Cuomo should face impeachment if he does not resign.

    “Let’s take one thing at a time here. I think he should resign,” Biden said. “I understand the state legislature may decide to impeach. I don’t know that for a fact.”

    It doesn’t sound like an unequivocal “he’s got to go” statement as a full quote, IMO.

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  23. 6.He’s scum and needs to go. I’ve seen congressional leadership say that clearly. Biden needs to do likewise, if not go further.

    LOL That’s probably an insult to genuine scum. Regardless of your politics, we’ve certainly had a crop of bums financed into office over the past several years.

    But it’s time to pump the air brakes and get Grandpoppa Clutch, Ol’ Convoy Joe rolling to a stop at a ‘choke and puke’ and send in the relief pitcher- have Kamala warming up in the bull pen; the country can weather a few innings of her- at least laughing and speaking in complete sentences- even get her to Europe; before she’s sent to the showers, too.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  24. “I’m sure there were some embraces that were totally innocent, but apparently the attorney general decided there were things that weren’t,” Biden added regarding Cuomo’s conduct.

    Well now I’m really confused. I thought it was the woman herself who gets to decide if the hug is totally innocent, not some elected Democrat with ambitions for higher office. But how can any of us be surprised that Joe Biden is rather clueless in these matters, give his own past behavior?

    I can bet you this one thing: if the NY Attorney General were a Republican I’ll bet you would have far more New York Democrats arguing that Cuomo didn’t do anything wrong and that this is a giant conspiracy against him. Not all of them, mind you, but certainly way more than are coming to his defense now.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  25. 17.He’s awaiting instructions from that fatass Zucker

    History of the Sitcom.

    Now THAT’S news.

    Jesus. Turner would have fired Zucker’s ass long ago.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  26. @22, what did he say that sounded like he didn’t want Cumo to resign?

    Time123 (f78123)

  27. Devil is in the disregarded details, BuDuh.

    Maggie Haberman
    @maggieNYT
    This press conference and the report are way, way, way more detailed and damning that many in press and among other Dem operatives expected. What happens now is unclear – ball is in Heastie’s court.
    8:37 AM · Aug 3, 2021

    FIFH… she nearly ‘fessed up.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  28. what did he say that sounded like he didn’t want Cumo to resign?

    His answer on impeachment did not rise to an unequivocal “he’s got to go” otherwise he would have said “if he doesn’t resign he needs to be removed.”

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  29. Who broadcasts a montage/collage of decades of creepy behavior like that then boasts ‘our whole “family” does/did this’ — even, dead Mario =bethumpa as the bus rolls over his corpse= Cuomo?!

    Michael Jackson?

    Hunter Biden?

    Gomez Addams?

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  30. When does a Hunter Biden connection surface?

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  31. That’s fair. He only called for resignation. He should have taken a stronger stance. Pretty lackluster statement from the president. I mean, calling for his resignation isn’t bad. But it’s probably the minimum acceptable position.

    Time123 (f78123)

  32. @30. A family of touchers. Or is it hair sniffers this week.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  33. @30, I’m sure gateway pundit will have that any minute. 😉

    Time123 (f78123)

  34. Or that FreeRepublic site Rip knows all about.

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  35. Pretty lackluster statement from the president

    Be grateful he was able to stand.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  36. His answer on impeachment did not rise to an unequivocal “he’s got to go” otherwise he would have said “if he doesn’t resign he needs to be removed.”

    Would have been nice to have real reporters who might have asked President Biden a follow-up question such as, “Mr. President, should Governor Cuomo resign for the greater good of the New York Democrat Party or for the greater good of the people of New York State?” Because a grumpy old cynic like me gets the sense that what bothers Democrats the most is the politics of this, not Cuomo’s actual behavior. They fear that they will be undergoing divisive impeachment proceedings in Albany this fall, only a year before their party needs to come together to defend the governor’s seat and Chuck Schumer’s seat in an election which might be kind of unfavorable to their party.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  37. Somebody in the press should have the balls be hounding that brain-damaged mick repeatedly until he gets his Irish up and angrily admits- ‘Okay, damn it, I’m a lying dog-faced pony soldier– I never drove an 18-wheeler… and I’n not a pony soldier, either. Just a liar.”

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  38. Drip, drip…gush!

    norcal (a6130b)

  39. Cuomo will never quit. And unless impeached, can’t be fired like so may media gropers have. Prosecute hi civilly if possible. But his political future is like an oxygen tank and fuel cells aboard Apollo 13: dead.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  40. Hopefully they ask Biden repeatedly, ad nauseam, if he will “completely and unequivocally renounce Cuomo.” This kind of questioning should continue for years whether or not he answers.

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  41. Jennifer ‘pro-voting’ Rubin
    @JRubinBlogger
    ·
    Mar 25, 2020
    Watching Andrew Cuomo is inspiring, uplifting, fascinating. He weaves details and humor and math and common sense all together. He is magnificent. Let’s just listen to him.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  42. Experts Warn Of New ‘Cuomo’ Variant That Is Dangerous To Young Women, Fatal To Elderly

    U.S.—Epidemiologists are sounding the alarm about a new COVID variant that is leading to increased hospitalization rates across the country. According to scientists, this new mutation—dubbed the “CUOMO” variant, is particularly dangerous to young, attractive women, and 100% fatal to the elderly.

    “This is the most infectious—and also the grossest—variant yet,” said Dr. Maria Bellagamba to reporters. “It seriously creeps me out just thinking about it. If this variant doesn’t make you want to isolate yourself in a locked home immediately, I don’t know what will.”

    According to virologists, young attractive women should avoid wearing short skirts and low-cut tops, as the CUOMO variant seems to gravitate toward women who it deems are provocatively dressed.

    “If you find yourself smelling nothing but the scent of garlic and marinara sauce combined with profuse amounts of cheap cologne, this is a sure sign you’ve been infected,” said Bellagamba before barfing into a nearby trash can from sheer disgust.

    In addition to being a very pervy virus, experts say it is 100% guaranteed to murder everyone over 65.

    “Sorry, there’s nothing we can do at this point. The virus donated to Biden’s election campaign,” said Bellagamba

    https://babylonbee.com/news/experts-warn-of-new-cuomo-variant-that-is-dangerous-to-young-women-fatal-to-elderly

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  43. I, for one, am awaiting RIP’s hot headlines and “just teh facts” reporting!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. DCSCA’s favorite and most relevant pundit weighs in, and he says “impeach Andrews Cuomo”.

    Paul Montagu (5de684)

  45. @40 It’s got to be so frustrating when you’re political opponents won’t oblige you by being wrong.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  46. BREAKING: NYS Assembly Speaker
    @CarlHeastie
    :
    “Governor has lost the confidence of the Assembly Democratic majority and that he can no longer remain in office…we will move expeditiously and look to conclude our impeachment investigation as quickly as possible.”

    https://twitter.com/morganfmckay/status/1422668061090500614

    BuDuh (7bca93)

  47. @45; I wouldn’t say frustrating. We already know what to expect. I fully expect “serious” people to remind everyone that Trump got to grab’em so fair is fair.

    frosty (f27e97)

  48. @46, Good for them! Makes Biden’s response look even weaker. Or, more adequate.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  49. Frosty, if you don’t want to talk about Trump why are you taking about Trump?

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  50. I don’t think this investigation would have happened Pre-Me Too. But hypotheticals can’t be proven.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  51. @49 ya really got to read these comments. I said you blame him for everything including Farmer Brown’s bull giving you sour milk no matter where the conversation starts. Are you begrudging me a little fun at the irony of the situation?

    frosty (f27e97)

  52. The serial groper sure won Tater’s heart!

    https://www.mrctv.org/videos/tv-news-thrills-over-cuomo-our-acting-president

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. @44. What would Tony Soprano do to a wiseguy who turns wise guy?

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  54. I am OK here as long as this does not distract from the vital inquisitive work the SDNY is doing on 45

    steveg (ebe7c1)

  55. And he probably does not even have a mansion in Palm Beach. What a pretentious parvenu behaving above his station.

    nk (1d9030)

  56. @53; the D’s might succeed in impeaching the acting president. Not holding my breath though.

    frosty (f27e97)

  57. 57 – and heals-up, so they can make Pelosi leader of the free world.

    mg (8cbc69)

  58. Who would have thought a couple of Hollywood demimondes trying at menopause to reclaim their virginity (or at least get some back end money for it) would have unleashed such a storm on their media colleagues and political fellow travelers?

    (9Which is not to say that Cuomo is not a filthy New York sewer rat. Young women trying to earn their daily bread have a difficult enough time without a boss who should have been flushed down the Hudson instead of elected to the governor’s mansion.)

    nk (1d9030)

  59. @58; I was referring to the media calling Cuomo the acting president in that video.

    Impeaching Biden isn’t an appealing proposition and I’m hoping we can keep him above ground and behind the desk for as long as possible.

    frosty (f27e97)

  60. 60-
    oh dopey me

    mg (8cbc69)

  61. Per my comment about “divisive impeachment proceedings in Albany” this fall, it will be really interesting in seeing if Cuomo wants to spare his party that fate in one final act of minimal grace, or if he wants to burn it all down by forcing them to remove him. I can’t imagine him voluntarily resigning, nor can I imagine him subjecting himself to removal. I guess he’ll try to find a middle-way where he resigns while still insisting that he is being treated unfairly. (I know that he desperately wants to cut a deal where his fellow Dems let him get away with announcing that he will retire once his third term in office is complete, but I think that ship has long-since sailed and this is exactly what he needed to do in March, not in August.) In any case, an actual impeachment and removal with Cuomo fighting it tooth-and-nail would probably be disastrous for New York Democrats next year, as I don’t think there is an Obama-like (or even for that matter Clinton-like) figure for them to rally around. It would be awfully fun to watch the left battle the far left in New York for the next year.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  62. Impeaching Biden isn’t an appealing proposition and I’m hoping we can keep him above ground and behind the desk for as long as possible.

    If the GOP takes the House back, they’ll impeach both Biden and Harris for stealing the election.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  63. Just think that some wanted Cuomo to take over for Biden last fall.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  64. Texas Rep. Chip Roy calls for impeachment of President Biden, DHS Secretary Mayorkas
    ……..
    “Over the past several months, President Biden and Secretary Mayorkas have blatantly and consistently refused to do their constitutional duty to take care that the immigration laws be faithfully executed, as required by Article II, endangering countless American and foreign lives in the process,” Roy told Fox News Tuesday.

    After conservative radio host Jesse Kelly described the border crisis as “more impeachable than Watergate” Monday, Roy retweeted the message and wrote “Co-sponsor. #ImpeachBiden #ImpeachMayorkas.”
    ………

    Rip Murdock (6467ac)

  65. I am OK here as long as this does not distract from the vital inquisitive work the SDNY is doing on 45

    DO you think that imprisonment would stop the GOP from nominating Trump?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  66. @64. Just think, The Big Dick won in a landslide, too.

    All’s well that ends well. 😉

    “Impooch With Honor.’ – legend on souvenir pet food bowl, 1974.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  67. This evenings fun conspiracy theory, brought to you by me:

    Cuomo is being forced into resignation in order to continue with the coverup of the COVID deaths in nursing homes at the behest of his wealthy hospital donors, and his questionable book deals with New York-based publishing conglomerates. By forcing his resignation, Attorney General James’s office will have a reason to let the investigations into both of those scandals fizzle out without any embarrassing charges being brought against any powerful Manhattan-based players. Cuomo will land a gig as a lawyer/lobbyist with offices in Manhattan and Washington, and he’ll pull in a several million a year for that along with millions more in speaking and television appearances.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  68. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/03/cdc-will-extend-the-federal-eviction-moratorium-through-oct-3.html

    Under what authority can the CDC even pretend to do this and absolve Congress of their duty as the Supreme Court stated?

    NJRob (27417d)

  69. @65 maybe biden would stop blatantly lying about it if he were under oath

    “We have not withdrawn the order that is sometimes criticized saying that unvaccinated people should go back across the border,” the president said. “But unaccompanied children is a different story. Because the most humane thing to do is to test them and to treat them and not send them back alone.”

    https://dailycaller.com/2021/08/03/peter-doocy-challenges-biden-untested-unvaccinated-migrants-crossing-border/

    Earlier in the day Homeland Security had told the judge that it was “generally” testing migrants.

    The affidavit from David Shahoulian, assistant secretary for border policy, came after Texas told the judge of an incident in La Joya, where police found a migrant family at a local fast-food restaurant who admitted they had COVID but were released into the community.

    The family was staying at a local hotel run under the auspices of Catholic Charities, and police who responded to the hotel found several dozen people from the hotel “out and about” and “the majority without face masks.” Police issued a public health alert based on the situation.

    Mr. Shahoulian, in his sworn affidavit, tried to minimize coronavirus risks from illegal immigrants, saying Homeland Security generally has the situation in hand.

    “Those released directly from CBP facilities are generally provided testing either prior to or immediately after release from CBP custody,” he said.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/3/federal-judge-blocks-texas-troopers-from-stopping-/

    JF (e1156d)

  70. NJRob (27417d) — 8/3/2021 @ 8:12 pm

    I think we’re all just pretending at this point. SCOTUS, POTUS, and Pelosi have said they can’t without additional congressional approval. They didn’t get it and they’re doing it anyway.

    frosty (f27e97)

  71. What would Putin do if a wiseguy turns wise guy?

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  72. 11.So killing all those elderly folks made him horny?

    More likely it was the videos of Marla Maples bouncing her peaches along, jogging on that treadmill in the 80s; He’s been Kid Kreep for decades.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  73. I think we’re all just pretending at this point. SCOTUS, POTUS, and Pelosi have said they can’t without additional congressional approval. They didn’t get it and they’re doing it anyway.

    frosty (f27e97) — 8/3/2021 @ 8:54 pm

    If someone else was President this would be impeachable, but…

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  74. 63- Next election?
    Anyone Worse than Trump/2024

    mg (8cbc69)

  75. The eviction moratorium was a mistake from Day 1.
    -It violated the rights of the property owner. Their property was taken without compensation.
    -It was bad policy as it moved the cost from the government to the property owner.
    -It wasn’t justified by events. (IMO)
    -Even if it was necessary the way they went about it was flawed. It would have been far better to give money directly to renters. This would have made the costs visible and reduced the costs of ending the program.

    This is the kind of flawed, populist, policy that Democrats historically like. Previously Republicans push back on this type of thing. But because the GOP has embraced populism and Trump was the one doing it, the GOP went along and now we’re stuck with it. Because Biden’s in charge now partisan’s will find a reason to hate it now, but the damage has been done and this will be hard to fix.

    The people talking about impeaching Biden over this need to lay out how this was legal before and is no longer legal now. The decision about if it’s justified seems subjective. I agree its not at all needed today, but I don’t think it’s legality has changed. But I’m open to good arguments that it has.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  76. @63, I don’t see any evidence that you’re wrong.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  77. In my next life I want to be a headline writer for the New York Post.

    Charlie Davis (15121e)

  78. There have certainly been a number of New York Democrat cretins who’ve displayed cuomosexual tendencies over the years… paragons of virtue like Eliot Spitzer, Anthony Weiner, former Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

    When they’re not harassing women, they’ll be choking and assaulting them.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  79. @76; It was legal under the original congressional action. When that expired it was extended by the CDC under Trump as an administrative action and again by Biden. There was some question as to whether the CDC extensions were legal. SCOTUS said they were not and the CDC had exceeded it’s authority. They had until July/31 to resolve the problem. They didn’t.

    I’m personally not convinced the original congressional action was legal either but I don’t understand the details enough to have a good opinion. But that’s how we went from legal (authorized by a specific law that expired) to not legal.

    Congress has the ability to enact new legislation reauthorizing the restrictions. Members of congress are telling the CDC to ignore the SCOTUS ruling. Yea, it sucks that we can’t depend on R’s to be the adults in the room or keep the wheels on.

    Now we’ll see what happens if landlords ignore the CDC and are pulled in front of a judge who is told to ignore a SCOTUS ruling.

    frosty (f27e97)

  80. @76 I’ve always hated it, even when Trump administration started it.

    The issue here with Biden, is that SCOTUS has already ruled on it, and recently. That’s the difference.

    This is literally Biden flipping the bird to SCOTUS and daring them by saying “what are you going to do about it”?

    whembly (ae0eb5)

  81. @80, that’s good information I didn’t have. Based on that it’s illegal.

    One correction, this original problem wasn’t created by the R’s not stopping the Dem’s. It was created by the R’s being as bad on policy as the Dem’s. Not sure that’s what you meant or not.

    From a small government perspective a lot of the social con stuff was a trade off for smaller government, fiscal discipline, rule of law. It’s a bummer we lost that.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  82. @81, yes, he needs to comply with the SC order.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  83. @83 If anything, this is impeachable.

    Enacting an illegal program unilaterally by gaming the court process (as that takes time) just so that some money get out of the door before is shut down is about as clear as corruption as you can get. How quickly can you go a nation-wide injunction? This is the time to use that.

    I can’t think of a presidential act more dangerous than this. Even pretty much what Trump did, with the exception to his non-response during the riot on 1/6.

    Note: I’ve seen folks on twitter saying Obama’s DACA/DAPA EO was just as bad. I’d disagree in that it was really tested by the courts. Many administrations try to push the envelope hoping the courts would side with them.

    The eviction moratorium unilaterally by the CDC was literally ruled recently.

    If SCOTUS/Congress doesn’t tamp this down is some politically embarrassing manner, this is one hella slippery slope that future administrations would take advantage. That’s really bad governing.

    whembly (ae0eb5)

  84. @84, agree.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  85. @84 the glory of our ruling class

    “I don’t buy that the CDC can’t extend the eviction moratorium – something it has already done in the past!” Waters tweeted. “Who is going to stop them? Who is going to penalize them? There is no official ruling saying that they cannot extend this moratorium. C’mon CDC – have a heart! Just do it!”

    This is Maxim Waters Aug/2.

    And how did this happen on the Cuomo thread? I feel like a pro-Cuomo/removal hesitant faction diverted this thread.

    frosty (f27e97)

  86. It was Rip & NJRob posted links and then you responded to NJRob. Why do you and NJRob not want Cumo to resign?

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  87. @87 – I don’t know. Maybe I’ve been brainwashed? The propaganda is real! Maybe the aluminum in my cranium protector has worn out and needs to be replaced.

    frosty (f27e97)

  88. @86

    And how did this happen on the Cuomo thread? I feel like a pro-Cuomo/removal hesitant faction diverted this thread.

    frosty (f27e97) — 8/4/2021 @ 7:07 am

    Not a Cuomo honk. He should be impeached following a good-faith investigation.

    whembly (2900b2)

  89. Woosh

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  90. 68. JVW (ee64e4) — 8/3/2021 @ 7:52 pm

    This evenings fun conspiracy theory…

    Cuomo is being forced into resignation in order to continue with the coverup of the COVID deaths in nursing homes at the behest of his wealthy hospital donors, and his questionable book deals with New York-based publishing conglomerates. By forcing his resignation, Attorney General James’s office will have a reason to let the investigations into both of those scandals fizzle out without any embarrassing charges being brought against any powerful Manhattan-based players.

    The way the calls for his resignation were orchestrated, makes it look like a conspiracy.

    WE can’t be sue just what other scandal or combination of scandals, the New York State Democratic Party wants to close down.

    Of course, Cuomo could threaten to let all things hang out.

    They’d have to assure him of no charges, and a good income stream, to hope of avoiding that. But he was forced to quit once before, by Bill Clinton, in 2002, when he first ran for Governor. He may not like thhat. And he may have hopes if some of the charges are false.

    The one with Charlotte Bennett is completely true – Cuomo is just denying what he knows, that she correctly assessed his conversation(s) with her a meaning that he wanted to sleep with her. Of course he was careful with his words.

    And Cuomo was trying to figure out why she might not want to, not trying to comfort her.

    Cuomo will land a gig as a lawyer/lobbyist with offices in Manhattan and Washington, and he’ll pull in a several million a year for that along with millions more in speaking and television appearances.

    Is there any way for anyone to guarantee that? It’s hard to even guarantee no prosecution for anything,

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  91. 69. NJRob (27417d) — 8/3/2021 @ 8:12 pm

    Under what authority can the CDC even pretend to do this and absolve Congress of their duty as the Supreme Court stated?

    By limitig t to 75% or so of the country. That makes it possible to distinguish the two cases.

    Biden is hoping at least that the policy will be allowed by a court to remain in effect till it expires. The chances are not zero.

    In the meantime he’s trying to get states to push out the rental assistance.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  92. Time @83…..yes, he needs to comply with the SC order.

    There is no Supreme Court order (or any other court order) regarding the eviction moratorium. The SC did not invalidate the ban, it actually allowed to continue. The Biden Administration has called Kavanaugh’s bluff.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  93. 70.

    “But unaccompanied children is a different story. Because the most humane thing to do is to test them and to treat them and not send them back alone.”

    What he’s not doing is planning for these releases.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  94. 84. whembly (ae0eb5) — 8/4/2021 @ 6:42 am

    The eviction moratorium unilaterally by the CDC was literally ruled recently.

    A nationwide eviction moratorium.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  95. Sammy, I’m not following what you mean in 93.

    Time123 (9f42ee)


  96. @74-

    I think we’re all just pretending at this point. SCOTUS, POTUS, and Pelosi have said they can’t without additional congressional approval. They didn’t get it and they’re doing it anyway.

    frosty (f27e97) — 8/3/2021 @ 8:54 pm

    If someone else was President this would be impeachable, but…

    NJRob (eb56c3) — 8/3/2021 @ 9:52 pm

    Given that the moratorium started under the Trump Administration, do you really want to go there?

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  97. If Cuomo resigned you would get a more conservative Governor, although actually she’s just cynical.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/who-is-andrew-cuomos-lieutenant-governor-kathy-hochul.html

    Before running for lieutenant governor, Hochul had a reputation as a moderate Democrat — which was arguably a political necessity where she had run for office upstate. In local and county races, she regularly ran on the Conservative Party line. In 2007, when she was Erie County clerk, she gained some notoriety downstate for opposing then-Governor Eliot Spitzer’s effort to issue driver’s licenses to undocumented immigrants — vowing to arrest any immigrant who tried to apply for one at county offices. In 2011, she ran for Congress as an “independent Democrat,” and earned an endorsement from the National Rifle Association.

    As with other upstate Democrats, like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Hochul’s politics have shifted in statewide office.

    Cuomo has tilted back to the center since this started and also probably changed what he does in the office.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  98. Back on topic……

    Marist Poll Results & Analysis: Governor Andrew Cuomo

    In a poll conducted last night, 59% of New Yorkers, including 52% of registered Democrats, say New York Governor Andrew Cuomo should resign from office in light of the results of an independent investigation which found Cuomo sexually harassed multiple women, including state employees. 32% report Cuomo should serve out the rest of his term. If Cuomo does not resign, 59% of New Yorkers say the New York State Legislature should impeach him.

    While Cuomo denies the allegations, 44% of New Yorkers believe Cuomo did something illegal, and 29% think he did something unethical but not illegal. Only 7% believe Cuomo did nothing wrong. Six percent say they haven’t heard enough about the allegations, and 13% are unsure.

    Cuomo’s reelection prospects are bleak. 11% of New Yorkers, including 12% of registered voters, think Cuomo deserves to be reelected while 78% say it’s time for someone else to be governor. When last reported in February, 36% of registered voters statewide thought Cuomo should be reelected, and 58% reported it was time for a new governor.

    Even his core supporters think Cuomo should resign and, if he does not, believe he should be impeached. 52% of registered Democrats are calling for the governor to resign, and the plurality (48%) think he should be impeached if he does not leave office. Similarly, 52% of New York City residents want him to resign, and 60% believe he should be impeached if he does not do so.
    ………
    Poll crosstabs.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  99. Time123 (9f42ee) — 8/4/2021 @ 9:03 am

    Sammy, I’m not following what you mean in 93.

    Which one is 93?

    If you mean the planning thing, the Administration does not plan for any releases of migrants – it does not acknowledge that they are going to happen – it just does them when it can no longer hold people because there’s no more room (as the Trump Administration also did)

    As a result it is more haphazard, and they can be accused of spreading Covid around. I don;t know if there are reasonable basis for that.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  100. Sorry Sammy, that was RIp’s post and I missed that he linked to an explanation that supported his position.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  101. The Cuomo boys are the spoiled, entitled kids of a political hack.

    The Bush family political dynasty were well raised and had class.

    Cuomos, not so much

    steveg (ebe7c1)

  102. This is the Attorney Generals’ report:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/03/nyregion/cuomo-sexual-harassment-report.html

    I don’t know if this link is behind a paywall, but it’s only the public document,

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  103. @93 – This is not an accurate statement. A lower court ruled that the CDC exceeded its authority. SCOTUS declined to overturn that ruling allowing it to stand, thereby confirming that the CDC exceeded its authority. They didn’t immediately terminate the policy since it was already set to expire but they were clear the policy could not be renewed absent new legislation. Biden and congressional leaders all agreed that new legislation was required until they couldn’t get the votes for it.

    @97 – Yes, and I did. It was initially authorized by Congress under Trump. I don’t think it was right. I’m not convinced it was legal. That authorization lapsed. The CDC administrative action wasn’t tested until Biden. It is not clear that the CDC doesn’t have the legal authority to do what it is doing.

    @95 – Suggesting a nationwide moratorium is outside the scope of the CDC but one that might cover 80% but allows for 100% is ok seems a bit ridiculous. Next someone will be saying the landlords impacted should just move their land.

    frosty (f27e97)

  104. Other than the loss of office IF he resigns, Cuomo will already have a well-feathered nest awaiting. JVW’s “conspiracy theory” is not far off.

    This is a distraction from the thousands of elderly people he helped kill with his March 25, 2020 order.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  105. This push to get rid of Cuomo just strikes me as too organized not to have been planned in advance of the release of the Attorney General’s report, which was supposed to be secret until released. Somebody wanted a pileup.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  106. Some allegations are trivial, like with the woman (a female physician) who gave him the live COVID-19 test on camera on March 17, 2020, and at other times the Governor probably lied in some of his explanations, like he lies other times about other things.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  107. @104, I know “seems” isn’t really a legal standard but it seems like the court has been clear that this needs to be re-authorized by congress or stopped. IANAL so the line between legal not not isn’t one I have an opinion on but Biden should be winding this down.

    Here’s an idea, if we need cheaper rent let’s relax zoning requirements to allow people to more easily create additional hosing and drive prices down.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  108. Sammy, The report has been in the works for long enough that Dem leadership could talk about what they’d do / say if it was good/ambiguous/bad. They didn’t need details to know how they’d react if it was bad and come to a consensus. Also, while I had no idea what the details would be I’m not at all surprised so I doubt they were caught off guard.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  109. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo actually arranged (by reducing the minimum requirements for one thing) for a female state trooper he had met to be given a job in his protective detail, possibly in the hopes of making her his mistress, or maybe just to have her around as an option, and he took liberties with her later.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  110. @106 – This reminds me of a movie quote … something about being shocked … if only we had a commenter expert in the ways of the movie quote.

    frosty (f27e97)

  111. Experts Warn Of New ‘Cuomo’ Variant That Is Dangerous To Young Women, Fatal To Elderly

    U.S.—Epidemiologists are sounding the alarm about a new COVID variant that is leading to increased hospitalization rates across the country. According to scientists, this new mutation—dubbed the “CUOMO” variant, is particularly dangerous to young, attractive women, and 100% fatal to the elderly.

    “This is the most infectious—and also the grossest—variant yet,” said Dr. Maria Bellagamba to reporters. “It seriously creeps me out just thinking about it. If this variant doesn’t make you want to isolate yourself in a locked home immediately, I don’t know what will.”

    According to virologists, young attractive women should avoid wearing short skirts and low-cut tops, as the CUOMO variant seems to gravitate toward women who it deems are provocatively dressed.

    “If you find yourself smelling nothing but the scent of garlic and marinara sauce combined with profuse amounts of cheap cologne, this is a sure sign you’ve been infected,” said Bellagamba before barfing into a nearby trash can from sheer disgust.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/experts-warn-of-new-cuomo-variant-that-is-dangerous-to-young-women-fatal-to-elderly

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  112. 108. Time123 (9f42ee) — 8/4/2021 @ 9:51 am

    , if we need cheaper rent let’s relax zoning requirements to allow people to more easily create additional hosing and drive prices down.

    People who have not paid all their rent or who have bad credit may have trouble renting at any price – and may have too much income to qualify for public housing or Section 8 even without the factor of waiting.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  113. This is a distraction from the thousands of elderly people he helped kill with his March 25, 2020 order.
    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/4/2021 @ 9:33 am

    That is my concern – Democrats will feed Cuomo to the wolves over this to prevent any further investigation into his handling of COVID and nursing homes.

    I seem to think it should not stop any investigation into Cuomo killing thousands, just as Democrats still spend time investigating Trump. But you know Democrats…for thee, not for me.

    Hoi Polloi (ade50d)

  114. to allow people to more easily create additional hosing

    Hosing is the foundation of every lefty scheme, Sammy.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  115. Yeah, that crazy leftist theory that people should have as much freedom as possible to make use of their property.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  116. @111.@106 – This reminds me of a movie quote … something about being shocked … if only we had a commenter expert in the ways of the movie quote.

    Hmmmmm. “Shocking. Positively shocking.” – James Bond [Sean Connery] ‘Goldfinger, 1964

    No? That one too overused? 😉 What would Putin do if a party wiseguy went on TV and talked like a wise guy?

    “Who do you think you’re talking to, errand boy! Nobody sets me up! Take him back to the baggage room and put one in his ear!” – Doyle Lonnegan [Robert Shaw] ‘The Sting’ 1973 😉

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  117. Morning Jolt: https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/cuomo-takes-the-ralph-northam-road

    He can’t do that if they’d actually impeach him.

    Wa=hat stopped it in Virginia, was the prospect that a few dominoes would fall, with the 4th in line, a Republican, becoming Governor. So nobody resigned.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  118. to allow people to more easily create additional hosing

    Definition: Rea-gan-omics.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  119. Frosty @104

    It was initially authorized by Congress under Trump. I don’t think it was right. I’m not convinced it was legal. That authorization lapsed.

    As I recall, it was a Trump Administration Executive Order (through the CDC) that initially imposed the moratorium. There was never any Congressional authorization.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  120. Frosty,

    I brought it up because the illegal act just came to pass and we all know Cuomo is filthy, but will get away with it.

    There’s no point in continuing to say the same things over and over again about Cuomo. We knew he was a pig. We knew the AG wants the Governor’s mansion. We also knew she would never prosecute him.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  121. Here is a non-paywall link to the Cuomo Report.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  122. Hochul, of Erie County, as Gov might be motivated to ram something through on behalf of these 4 time losers.

    urbanleftbehind (ef9d3d)

  123. Frosty @104

    It was initially authorized by Congress under Trump. I don’t think it was right. I’m not convinced it was legal. That authorization lapsed.

    As I recall, it was a Trump Administration Executive Order (through the CDC) that initially imposed the moratorium. There was never any Congressional authorization.
    Correction: The Trump Executive Order was issued after a Congressional eviction moratorium lapsed in August 2020.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  124. Same site. We cross posted.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  125. NJRob, when I said it was you and Rip who provided the link I wasn’t sincerely accusing you of trying to cover trot Cumo. I think frosty was making a joke based on the accusation he feels people have been making that conversation not focused on the need to get the vaccine encourages vaccine hesitancy. I was playing along with that joke. Sorry for any confusion.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  126. NJ Rob, I think Cumo’s action merit his resignation or impeachment. I haven’t read the report. Does it support criminal charges?

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  127. Look at this:

    On May 16, 2019, Ms. Bennett had a conversation with the Governor during which the Governor asked her about the length of her previous relationships and whether she “honored her commitments.”351 That same day, she was in the Governor’s office when he asked her whether
    she knew the song, “Danny Boy.”352 Ms. Bennett recalled that the Governor had a copy of the
    lyrics with him that he handed to her as he asked her to memorize the lyrics.353 Ms. Bennett
    spent much of the day trying to memorize the lyrics to the song, and the Governor occasionally
    “would pop out” of the side door to his office that opened to Ms. Bennett’s cubicle and ask her to
    start singing the song.354

    That same day, Ms. Bennett sent a text message to a friend detailing the interaction. She wrote, “was with Gov when you texted. He asked me if I honored my commitments . . . asked me to name commitments. Asked[] me how long my relationships were . . . He’s making me learn the lyrics to Danny Boy. And keeps coming out to quiz me and I’ve failed every time.”355

    She also sent a text message to a member of her family, writing, “Sorry. Gov is in. Can’t talk rn . . . [h]e’s making me memorize the lyrics to Danny Boy. He keeps coming out to quiz me . . . .”356

    The Governor then called Ms. Bennett into Ms. Benton’s office, where Ms. Benton and Ms. DeRosa were also present, and asked Ms. Bennett to sing “Danny Boy.”357 Ms. Bennett testified that she began to recite the lyrics, and Governor Cuomo stopped her and asked her to sing the lyrics instead.358 When Ms. Bennett resisted, the Governor began to sing the song, and Ms. Bennett attempted to join.359 Ms. Bennett noted that Ms. DeRosa remarked that this was “hazing.”360

    Once Ms. Bennett returned to her cubicle, a colleague told Ms. Bennett that the Governor had been testing Ms. Bennett for her temperament, confidence, ability to handle herself, anxiety, and memory.361

    Footnote 353. 353 Id. at 125:20–25. One staff member recalled that earlier that day, the Governor was in the elevator with Dani Lever and the staff member when the Governor began to sing the song, “Danny Boy,” possibly as a play on Ms. Lever’s first name. The Governor then asked the staff member to print the lyrics to the song; the staff member printed the lyrics and handed them to Ms. Bennett because she was the executive assistant sitting outside of the Governor’s office at the time. Another junior staff member, who is a woman, also recalled the Governor asking her to sing “Danny Boy” with him.

    Footnote 354 Id. at 126:7–16. A staff member who worked next to Ms. Bennett at the time testified that he saw Ms. Bennett with a print-out of the lyrics to Danny Boy, and she was mouthing the lyrics out and humming them while trying to memorize them. Vicinanza Tr. 147:16–148:21.

    A few pages down:

    …During his testimony, the Governor denied many of Ms. Bennett’s allegations about their early interactions, including that he had required Ms. Bennett to learn and perform “Danny Boy”;382 that he had made comments about the size of his hands;383 and that he had criticized Ms. Bennett’s hair or called her “bun.”384 The Governor acknowledged, however, that he and Ms. Bennett had discussed having a “push up competition.” …

    … Other than that, the Governor denied remembering any interactions with her prior to about January 2020, even though the contemporaneous texts—and testimony from many witnesses—establish that the Governor and Ms. Bennett frequently interacted before January 2020.386

    The Governor also testified that he did not recall ever singing any part of a song to Ms. Bennett, including “Do You Love Me?” by the Contours, going so far as to say “I don’t even know that song.”387

    However, a call that Ms. Bennett recorded for dictation purposes from October 4, 2019 begins with the Governor singing the chorus to that song several times to Ms. Bennett before beginning dictation.3

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  128. If they take a very strict interpretation of sexual harassment maybe it could support criminal charges. And there seem to be instances, if true, of sexual abuse.

    Somehow President Kennedy never interacted with any unwilling women. I think he had other people sound them out before.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  129. @128-
    The Albany DA is investigating.

    Albany County District Attorney David Soares confirmed Tuesday that his office is opening a criminal investigation into Gov. Andrew Cuomo after a report released by state Attorney General Letitia James’ office found that Cuomo sexually harassed 11 women in violation of state and federal law.

    Related: Cuomo violated state and federal laws, report finds, but will he be charged with a crime?

    Cuomo sexual harassment report prompts inquiries by prosecutors in Manhattan, Westchester

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  130. @121 – and I was joking. I kicked that can as much as anyone

    frosty (5343e8)

  131. I think we need to start using the /snark tag or putting in emoji or a disclaimer.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  132. Somehow President Kennedy never interacted with any unwilling women. I think he had other people sound them out before.

    Even a millionaire playboy has his pimps, eh Sammy.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  133. Also, when everyone agrees that Cumo is a scumbag unfit for office who should resign, leaders of his party have said so the day the report came out, his state legislature has said they’re getting ready to impeach, and no one is defending him it’s kind of a dry conversational well.

    NJRob took it to the next step which is criminal charges. Not every improper act is criminal, but if there’s sufficient evidence and someone willing to press charges I don’t see anyone likely to push back on that. I would’t.

    At this point the only way to continue the conversation is tangents or counter-factual trolling about ‘republican’s wouldn’t hold him accountable’ or ‘dem’s wouldn’t do this if the seat weren’t safe. I’d rather just be happy everyone is on the same page about doing the right thing for once.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  134. CNN has totally ‘Zucked’ itself.

    They’ve destroyed their credibility. Cleanout the stall; rebuild: fire Chris Cuomo.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  135. Not sure if reaching under a woman’s blouse to caress a breast and/or grabbing derrière is battery or assault under New York law – it may not be, as Epstein (wdnkh) and Harvey W. seemed to feel welcome and comfortable there – and there may be other unlawful moves Cuomo made. But if they are… and he’s charged, tried and convicted… he may well be incarcerated.

    Highly unlikely, but not impossible.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  136. If the victim wants to press charges I hope he is.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  137. CH, did we just agree?

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  138. Somehow President Kennedy never interacted with any unwilling women. I think he had other people sound them out before.

    Or Donald Trump.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  139. Cuomo did it; Packwood did it; Franken did it; Kavanaugh did it; O’Reilly did it; Ailes did it; Cosby did it; Bolling did it; Lauer did it; Moonves did it; Halperin did it; Matthews did it; Charlie Rose did it.. what the hell, O.J. Simpson did it.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  140. Executive Assistant #1 sayd she didn’t say, slap him, like people she knows later said she should have, because “I’m [not] going to assault the [G]overnor. I would be taken away by the state police officers and I would be the one that would get in trouble and I would be the one to lose my job, not him. . . .”

    And she couldn’t tell anyone because her supervisor, Stephanie Benton, was the Governor’s right-hand person and “if I told her I was going to be asked to go somewhere else or transferred to [another] agency” and she actually liked her job.

    “I was proud to work, especially during this pandemic. I generally enjoy working with my colleagues . . . that was an opportunity of a lifetime.”

    She felt she was being taken advantage of.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  141. Kavanaugh didn’t do it, and they all did different things. Andrew Cuomo has been caught in peripheral lies.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  142. @143. Except he did. In his own boozy obno-notes.

    Get over it, Sammy.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  143. Somehow President Kennedy never interacted with any unwilling women. I think he had other people sound them out before.

    140. Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/4/2021 @ 1:31 pm

    Or Donald Trump.

    Well, that happened with the two women in Nevada in 2006.

    Somebody indeed talked to Stormy Daniels before.

    As for Karen McDougal, Donald Trump thought she was a prostitute and offered her money, but that was not what she thought of herself, and when Donald Trump found out she was willing to do that without a specific quid pro quo, he started an affair with her that lasted ten months until she broke it off because Donald Trump was introducing her to Melania.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  144. The peripheral lies in the Kavanaugh case are with the accusers. The most credible accuser even changed her story about what approximate year it happened.

    And one of her prime sources of income was doctoring scientific papers.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  145. @146. Thomas did, too.

    Keep pitchin’ Sammy. Karma’s gonna get ’em in the end.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  146. Somehow President Kennedy never interacted with any unwilling women. I think he had other people sound them out before.

    In Kennedy’s case attractiveness attracts; attractiveness and power are a magnet. (Of course, we have no idea about the consensual nature of his affairs).

    In the case of Trump and Cuomo, it is the opposite. They believed their power exempted their behavior. (I have no opinion about Kavanaugh, though it might involve social privilege).

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  147. @148. Kiss a frog and a Toad tells all:

    “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.” – Henry Kissinger

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  148. AOC ny governor in 2022?

    asset (3da40b)

  149. * 107

    the live COVID-19 test on camera on March 17, 2020

    I remember that test. I thought this was later. March 17, was extremely early in the epidemic in New York State but I thought, maybe…

    Now I heard Inside Edition say it was in May.

    The AG report has March.

    That’s one error in it.

    State Entity Employee #2. On March 17, 2020, a then-Director at New York State’s Department of Health (“State Entity Employee #2”), who is also a doctor, participated in a press conference with the Governor, during which she performed a live COVID-19 nasal swab test on the Governor. As they were preparing for the press conference
    (outside the presence of the press), the Governor requested that State Entity Employee #2 not put the swab up his nose “so deep that you hit my brain.”27 State Entity Employee #2 replied that she would be “gentle but accurate”28 in conducting the swab test, to which the Governor responded, “[G]entle but accurate, I’ve heard that before.”29 State Entity Employee #2 felt that the Governor intended to convey a “joke of an implied sexual nature.”30 Then, at the press conference, in front of the press and cameras, the Governor stated, “Nice to see you, Doctor—you make that gown look good.”31 State Entity Employee #2 found the Governor’s comments offensive and that they would not have been made to an accomplished physician who was a man.

    This is the thing that I meant when I said at #107 that some allegations are trivial.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  150. 147 Thomas didn;t do it. Anita Hill said that the reason she followed Clarece Thomas from one job to another was because she was afraid the Department of EDucation would be abolished.

    WHHICH WAS ASOMETHING THAT COULD ONLY MAKE SENSE TO A PERSON WHO SWALLOWED THE NEA TALKING POINT IN 1982 because abolishing the Deppartment of Education would not have meant firing all the people. It;s something which an uninformed person might assume from that talking point. But Anita Hill was in the government and was covered by civil service.

    Her co-workers also disputed her. She was not trying to avoid Clarence Thomas.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  151. CBS News said that New York State lawmakers will give Governor Cuomo until the end of the weekend (i.e. Monday August 9) to resign – otherwise they will proceed with impeachment. The Assembly;s impeachment investigation should be finished by the end of the month – that is Cuomo should be impeached by Labor Day.

    And his trial should begin by September 30.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  152. 130. Two possible New York State criminal charges against Andrew Cuomo, both misdemeanors, are forcible touching and sex abuse in the 3rd degree. I doon;t know if any of that could make Cuimo into a sex offender. I think his denials are too broad because of fear of a law covering it.

    Four county DA’s are interested in looking at possible charges.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  153. Actually 5 District Attorneys: Albany, Manhattan. Westchester, Nassau and Oswego.

    Oswego? (That would probably be the event in “upstate New York” where the Governor spoke and where Virginia Limmiatis was inappropriately touched.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  154. Impeachment in New York Sate works differently than in the federal government.

    1) Upon impeachment, the Lieutenant Governor becomes Acting Governor. Si Andrew Cuomo would lose his power at that point.

    2) The jury consists of the members of the Senate, minus the temporary president of the Senate, plus the members of the New York State court of appeals.

    There are currently 62 Senators and seven members of the Court of Appeals. You might think this adds up to 69, but it is 68 because one Senator does not count. Two thirds of 68 or 69 is 46, and the blocking number is 24. Only those present count, but there must be a majority both of the Senators and of the 7 members of the Court of Appeals.

    The trial must begin within 30 or 60 days of the impeachment – that is, they can;t leave the Governor hanging, and a majority cannot refuse to proceed with a trial.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  155. Nthing about this in the CBS Evening News tonight.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  156. Governor Cuomp has been given until next Friday, August 13, to submt a response to the Assembly

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  157. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo seems to have no friends left who don’t work for him, except Rudolph Giuliani, a few letter writers to the New York Daily News, and his dog.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  158. Rudolph Giuliani but not his son son Andrew

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/05/rudy-giuliani-comes-to-gov-cuomos-defense-in-sex-harass-scandal

    “Cuomo may be guilty, but we used to have trials before convictions,” he wrote. “That’s what Cuomo’s Democrat allies denied President Trump. There would be poetic justice if they did that to Cuomo, but it would be unjust, dangerous and entirely un-American.”

    As if the ideological disparity between the two men didn’t make the show of support odd enough, it also comes as Giuliani’s son, also named Andrew, has announced his candidacy to unseat Cuomo.

    The younger Giuliani issued a statement hours after James unveiled her damning probe results, calling for Cuomo’s head.

    “First and foremost, the 11 victims of Andrew Cuomo’s criminal sexual harassment deserve our respect and admiration for bravely stepping forward to tell their stories despite threats and risk to their reputation and professional careers. Regardless of how Cuomo is trying to discredit you and justify his unacceptable behavior today, we hear you.

    “Knowing that Andrew Cuomo will not give up his access to power and resign, I am calling on the assembly and legislature to reconvene to begin impeachment proceedings against him. It is time to protect the statehouse and all New Yorkers from Cuomo’s ongoing misconduct,” Andrew Giuliani concluded.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  159. @159. And the blonde at his feet by the pool side.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  160. The New York State Assembly wad investigating four different grounds for impeachment but has abandoned one of them: Covering up of structural problems on the new Mario Cuomo bridge (the replacement for the Tappan Zee Bridge over the Hudson Rover.)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/05/nyregion/andrew-cuomo-impeachment.html

    The impeachment investigation, which began in March, initially had four main focal points: the sexual harassment allegations; Mr. Cuomo’s handling of data about nursing home deaths; whether he used state resources to write his memoir about the pandemic; and whether his administration covered up potential structural problems on the Gov. Mario M. Cuomo Bridge…..Michael Montesano, the judiciary committee’s ranking Republican member, said on Wednesday that the investigation had “been redirecting” away from the bridge allegations to other areas, which several others close to the investigation confirmed.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  161. 161, That blonde woman probably works for him. She’s typing something, isn’t she?

    Andrew Cuomo was holed up with his top aides on Wednesday, (I think) trying to prepare a response but they couldn’t figure out what to say.

    He did release a 14-minute video on Tuesday prepared in advance of the release of the report, and his lawyer has submitted something arguing that some of the witnesses contradict themselves, (apparently by praising Cuomo after the date of some alleged incidents)

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  162. The other day Bill O’Reilly said (I don;t know if this accurate) that, right now, Governpr Andrew Cuomo controls the disbursement of $50 billion in federal assistance.

    In any case, that power goes away the instant the New York State Assembly votes ti impeach, although he still collects his salary and gets to live in the Governor’s mansion (which after his break-up with Sandra Lee, is apparently his only home.)

    He can easily drag things out till approximately the end of the year.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  163. Rita Glavin pooping chaff on the TeeVee for Governor Creepyshow.

    Allow me, on behalf of the citizens of the State of Noo Wawk, to ask Rita Glavin a few ‘Cuomo Questions:

    So, Rita… do you date older men?
    Rita… are you hot to trot or just prefer to ride Italian stallions?
    Rita… you should really wear a dress more often.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  164. Rita… so the governor likes to hire women for ‘diversity.’

    Variety is ‘the spice of life,’ eh sweetie?

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  165. Criminal complaint against Cuomotose for felonious fondling of the breast filed.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  166. The state trooper is the one new allegation – the 11th case – that nobody knew about until the Attorney General’s report was released. (Only ten cases were known that the AG was looking into)

    Cuomo wasn’t prepared for it on Tuesday – his people were still not prepared for it on Friday. I mentioned it briefly at 110.

    This involves a small abuse of power (changing the requirements to hire her, so Cuomo says he wanted more women) and lying to the press.

    ….Although—as discussed above and as corroborated by the contemporaneous documents, Trooper #1 had in fact been allowed to join the PSU before meeting the time requirement for service as a Trooper to be eligible to join the PSU (three years)—the State Police (after consultation with the Executive Chamber) drafted a statement denying any exception being made for Trooper #1 and taking offense at the question even being asked.326 The response stated, with no mention of the Governor’s role in bringing Trooper #1 onto the PSU and the fact that Trooper #1 had not met the three-year requirement, that:
    [Trooper #1] joined the Protective Services Unit in January 25, 2018, along with another Trooper with the same exact amount of experience. Since June of 2012, State Police has required three years of Division service in order to qualify for appointment to the PSU. 327 Her assignment was based on her performance while
    assisting the PSU at an event in November of 2017. A Senior Investigator on the detail was impressed by her work and attitude, and recommended her as a possibility to fill an opening on the unit.
    PSU conducted a standard review of her work as a Trooper, which included interviews with her supervisors, who praised her work and agreed that she would be a good candidate for PSU . . . Any
    suggestion that [Trooper #1]’s assignment to the PSU and subsequent promotion was based on anything other than her hard work and abilities is false. Such a suggestion an insult to [Trooper #1] and the New York State Police.328

    During her testimony, Ms. DeRosa recalled the Times Union’s inquiry about Trooper #1. She testified that her view was that the inquiry itself was sexist, leading to a heated exchange between Ms. DeRosa and Casey Seiler, the editor of the Times Union.329 Ms. DeRosa testified that she yelled at him, saying, “you guys are trying to reduce her hiring to being about looks. That’s what men do.”330 Ms. DeRosa testified that the Governor overheard her “getting animated” in her office during her conversation with Mr. Seiler.331 Ms. DeRosa testified that after she explained the situation to the Governor, the Governor called Mr. Seiler
    himself.332 Ms. DeRosa stated that the Governor told Mr. Seiler not to get mad at Ms. DeRosa
    for being animated, as “this is one of the topics that sends [Ms. DeRosa] off a cliff.”333
    Ms. DeRosa testified that the Times Union ultimately decided not to write on the subject.334 As
    noted above, despite Ms. DeRosa’s accusations of sexism, the Governor’s call to Mr. Seiler, and
    the State Police’s official response, the truth was, as Trooper #1 informed us and as the
    documents and other witnesses confirmed, Trooper #1 in fact had been allowed to transfer to the
    PSU (after meeting briefly with the Governor and at the Governor’s urging) even though she did
    not meet the three-year service requirement for the PSU. And then the Governor proceeded to
    engage in a pattern of sexually harassing conduct toward her.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  167. There won’t be any prosecution without the victim formally complaining and testufying voluntarily.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  168. The CBS Evebing News this time had some coverage of the Andrew Cuomo events.

    They’ll also interview an anonymous victim (not named in the report) on Monday morning in collaboration with the Albany Times Union.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  169. 169… per 167, a victim has taken the next step, Sammy.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  170. 161. 163. The blonde woman is Cuomo’s office director, Stephanie Benton.

    The pool is in the Executive Mansion. Neither is dresssed for swimming. Cuom has a shirt and pants and a paper notebook in front of him. The secretary is dressed in a jumper (not a bathing suit) and has kicked off her flip flops.

    It is said she also has sunglasses although I can’t see them in any of the pictures that are printed in the Friday, August 6, 2021 New York Post. She is using a laptop.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  171. Stephanie Benton is the person who, one time, took the sexual harassment training instead of the Governor (evidently Cuomo wanted the excuse that he didn’t know what he shouldn’t do according to state law and policy.)

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)


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