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6/25/2021

New Report Claims Senior Trump Aides Were Warned Jan. 6 Events Could Get Ugly

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:17 am



[guest post by Dana]

Well, this is actually unsurprising:

ProPublica has obtained new details about the Trump White House’s knowledge of the gathering storm, after interviewing more than 50 people involved in the events of Jan. 6 and reviewing months of private correspondence. Taken together, these accounts suggest that senior Trump aides had been warned the Jan. 6 events could turn chaotic, with tens of thousands of people potentially overwhelming ill-prepared law enforcement officials.

Rather than trying to halt the march, Trump and his allies accommodated its leaders, according to text messages and interviews with Republican operatives and officials.

Katrina Pierson, a former Trump campaign official assigned by the White House to take charge of the rally planning, helped arrange a deal where those organizers deemed too extreme to speak at the Ellipse could do so on the night of Jan. 5. That event ended up including incendiary speeches from Jones and Ali Alexander, the leader of Stop the Steal, who fired up his followers with a chant of “Victory or death!”

The record of what White House officials knew about Jan. 6 and when they knew it remains incomplete. Key officials, including White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, declined to be interviewed for this story.

The second impeachment of President Trump focused mostly on his public statements, including his Jan. 6 exhortation that the crowd march on the Capitol and “fight like hell.” Trump was acquitted by the Senate, and his lawyers insisted that the attack on the Capitol was both regrettable and unforeseeable.

Rally organizers interviewed by ProPublica said they did not expect Jan. 6 to culminate with the violent sacking of the Capitol. But they acknowledged they were worried about plans by the Stop the Steal movement to organize an unpermitted march that would reach the steps of the building as Congress gathered to certify the election results.

What is also of concern is that the former president still has no intention of letting his election loss go. In fact, he’s taking his bitter grievances on the road in a continued effort to “fight like hell”:

Former President Donald Trump is bronzed, rested and politically bloodthirsty.

Having spent months in semi-retirement after his election loss in 2020, Trump is set this weekend to kick off a series of political events. Aides and confidants say the goal is to boost his standing in anticipation of a possible future run and to scratch that never-soothed itch he has for publicity. But it’s also to exact some revenge.

On Saturday, Trump will hold a Make America Great Again rally outside Cleveland, Ohio in support of longtime aide-turned-Republican congressional candidate Max Miller, who is vying for the seat held by Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, a Cleveland native who voted for the second impeachment of Trump after the Jan. 6 riot on Capitol Hill.

“The fact that his first rally is targeting Max’s campaign tells you a lot about where the focus is,” said Taylor Budowich, a senior adviser to Miller’s campaign. “[Gonzalez] didn’t just betray President Trump but he betrayed his constituents.”

Saturday’s rally — the first of a MAGA tour that Trump’s aides have teased for months — is expected to draw out diehards longing to be taken back to an era when they were less bitter about the turns life took: one when Trump was in the White House. And the president is likely to indulge them, increasingly eager to push the falsehoods that his reelection was deprived of him through nefarious attempts to doctor the vote.

His roster of attendees includes conspiracy theorists Marjorie Taylor Greene and Mike Lindell, as well as Rep. Jim Jordan, who confirmed Trump’s role in the Republican Party:

“I think when the president comes out-and-about talking, that’s just good for Republicans,” Jordan said. “It’s going to help us in ’22. He’s going to talk about lots of issues.”

“It’s great for us. I mean, he’s the leader of the party,” said Jordan.

If there was still any question about the heart and soul of today’s Retrumplican Party, consider this:

At least for now. Trump has continued to tease a run in 2024, and his team continues to portray him as if he’s still in the Oval. In a survey emailed to supporters on Wednesday, Trump’s Save America PAC asked respondents who they thought was “a better fit to lead our Nation?”

Trump, when listed, got the title of President. Biden merely went by his first and last name.

–Dana

49 Responses to “New Report Claims Senior Trump Aides Were Warned Jan. 6 Events Could Get Ugly”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (fd537d)

  2. the “senior trump aides” plural breathless are:

    katrina pierson

    anybody heard of her?

    and

    well, that’s it

    JF (e1156d)

  3. But this is not a warning of what actually happened. Just that some bad people were involved. And it says they were shifted to a rally held January 5.

    That doesn’t mean that there might not actually be something relevant here, but it’s not making it into the story.

    The questions are:

    1) Was there or was there not a permit for a rally at the Capitol? They say there was not permit for march,

    @) ,Did Trump say he would attend that second rally at the Capitol? (which actually did take place and was dominated by anti-vaxxers)

    3) Why didn’t Trump go there? That is, when did he cancel his appearance?

    Propublica:

    That same day, a website went live promoting a march on Jan. 6. It instructed demonstrators to meet at the Ellipse, then march to the Capitol at 1 p.m. to “let the establishment know we will fight back against this fraudulent election. … The fate of our nation depends on it.”

    No, it did not “go live” It was updated and promoted three rallies, where previously it had only promoted one at the Capitol. I am not sure it ever promoted any march.

    This was the earlier version:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210104141515/https://wildprotest.com

    This was the update:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210105002231/https://wildprotest.com

    Same three rallies (one already over) on the morning of January 6:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20210106005050/https://wildprotest.com

    Nobody got a permit for a march. But the rally is different. It has been reported it did have a permit, although perhaps not on the Capitol Lawn. Many of the people involved in the storming of the Capitol went directly to the Capitol lawn and steps. Part of the webpage says Capitol Lawn and step,s and part of the web page says NE Drive.

    This was not the crowd that had been at the Ellipse. ProPublica is biased and ignorant.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  4. HF @2.

    katrina pierson

    anybody heard of her?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/us/politics/trump-election-results.html

    Women for America First was the original organizer of the [sic – there were eventually two separate rallies scheduled for Jan, 6] Jan. 6 rally in Washington. But at the turn of the year, Mr. Trump decided to join the rally himself, and the event effectively became a White House production, with several people close to the administration and the Trump campaign joining the team.

    The former Trump campaign adviser Katrina Pierson was the liaison to the White House, a former administration official said. And the president discussed the speaking lineup, as well as the music to be played, according to a person with direct knowledge of the conversations.

    Mr. Stockton, the bus-tour organizer, said that he had been surprised to learn that the protest would include a march from the Ellipse to the Capitol. That march — the prelude to the riot — had not been the plan before the White House became involved.

    The problem here is that the New York Times story, echoing Democratic Party spin, ignores the rally that was being promoted for the Capitol. The rally at the Ellipse was added later (at least to the wildprotest website) and the Capitol rally not cancelled but it’s time was reduced to allow people to attend both.

    Wall Street Journal story:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/jan-6-rally-funded-by-top-trump-donor-helped-by-alex-jones-organizers-say-11612012063

    The Women for America First Ellipse permit said the group wouldn’t conduct a march but noted: “Some participants may leave to attend rallies at the United States Capitol to hear the results of Congressional certification of the Electoral College count.”

    Kylie Kremer, co-founder of Women for America First, said the group didn’t file for a march permit because it went against Covid-19 guidelines and a march wasn’t in its plans.

    When Mr. Trump met on Jan. 4 with former campaign adviser Katrina Pierson, who had begun working with rally organizers, he said he wanted to be joined primarily by lawmakers assisting his efforts to block electoral votes from being counted and members of his own family, aides said.

    Messrs. Alexander and Jones spoke instead at a Jan. 5 rally organized by the Eighty Percent Coalition, a group founded by Cindy Chafian, an early organizer of the Jan. 6 event who struck the initial deal with Mr. Jones.

    She said she was willing to work with Mr. Jones because “it’s unreasonable to expect to agree with everything a group or person does.”

    ….

    The next day, Ms. Wren personally escorted Mr. Jones and Mr. Alexander off the Ellipse grounds before the two men marched to the U.S. Capitol, according to organizers. She had provided them and many others VIP passes that morning for Mr. Trump’s speech.

    Messrs. Alexander and Jones were at the Capitol grounds together on Jan. 6, and Mr. Jones supported protesters with a bullhorn, video footage shows. He urged them to be peaceful and proceed to the area on the Capitol grounds where Mr. Alexander had secured a demonstration permit, according to Mr. Alexander and the footage.

    And Alex Jones also said, it is reported (I haven’t seen the footage) that if they went that-a-way they would hear Trump speak.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  5. Pence, Diverging From Trump, Says He Was ‘Proud’ to Certify Election
    …….
    Speaking at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., Mr. Pence defended the constitutionally mandated role he played in certifying the Electoral College vote on Jan. 6, when a violent mob of Trump loyalists — some chanting “Hang Mike Pence” — stormed the Capitol while the president did nothing for hours to stop them.

    “I will always be proud that we did our part on that tragic day to reconvene the Congress and fulfilled our duty under the Constitution and the laws of the United States,” Mr. Pence said, noting that as vice president, he had no constitutional authority to reject or return electoral votes submitted to Congress by the states. “The truth is, there is almost no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president.”

    It was the furthest that Mr. Pence, a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2024, has gone yet in defending his role that day or distancing himself from Mr. Trump, to whom he ingratiated himself during their four years together in office.
    ……
    On Thursday night, he declined to state firmly that he and Mr. Trump had lost the 2020 election, a reality that the former president has continued to deny.

    “I understand the disappointment many feel about the last election,” Mr. Pence said. “I can relate. I was on the ballot. But there’s more at stake than our party or our political fortunes in this moment. If we lose faith in the Constitution, we won’t just lose elections — we’ll lose our country.”

    Whether Mr. Pence will succeed in having it both ways — being viewed as an ally and a critic of Mr. Trump — remains to be seen. Polls show that a majority of Republican voters believe that Mr. Trump won the 2020 election and buy into his baseless claims about voter fraud.
    ……..
    Even if Trump doesn’t run in 2024, Pence has absolutely no chance of being the Republican (Insurrectionist) Party nominee.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  6. “That’s not a bug! That’s a feature!”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  7. JF-
    Will you treat anonymous sources in the Biden Administration with similar disdain?

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  8. “….yes, but I was only impeached once!”

    — overheard at Washington cocktail party

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  9. Shouldn’t the rallies be called “Make America Great Again Again”?

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  10. More from the WSJ article dated Feb 1:

    Mr. Jones also helped arrange for Julie Jenkins Fancelli, a prominent donor to the Trump campaign and heiress to the Publix Super Markets Inc. chain, to commit about $300,000 through a top fundraising official for former President Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign, according to organizers. Her money paid for the lion’s share of the roughly $500,000 rally at the Ellipse where Mr. Trump spoke.

    Another far-right activist and leader of the “Stop the Steal” movement, Ali Alexander, helped coordinate planning with Caroline Wren, a fundraising official who was paid by the Trump campaign for much of 2020 and who was tapped by Ms. Fancelli to organize and fund an event on her behalf, organizers said. On social media, Mr. Alexander had targeted Jan. 6 as a key date for supporters to gather in Washington to contest the 2020-election certification results. The week of the rally, he tweeted a flyer for the event saying: “DC becomes FORT TRUMP starting tomorrow on my orders!”

    Also:

    Mr. Alexander, for instance, tweeted on Dec. 30 about the scheduled Jan. 6 count for lawmakers to certify the Electoral College vote at the Capitol, writing: “If they do this, everyone can guess what me and 500,000 others will do to that building.”

    A hodgepodge of different pro-Trump groups were planning various events on Jan. 6. Several of them, led by the pro-Trump Women for America First, helped coordinate the Ellipse event; another group splintered off to lead a rally the night before, at which Mr. Jones ended up speaking, and the group organized by Mr. Alexander planned a protest outside the Capitol building.

    Mr. Jones, who has publicized discredited conspiracy theories, has hosted leaders of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers, two extremist groups prominent at the riot, on his popular radio and internet video shows.

    Mr. Jones declined to respond to requests for comment. In a statement, Mr. Alexander said Stop the Steal’s motto is “peaceful but rowdy,” that the violence at the Capitol wasn’t planned by his group and said none of his rhetoric incited violence. Messrs. Alexander and Jones said on Mr. Jones’s show that they tried to prevent protesters from entering the Capitol and sought to de-escalate the riot. Neither has been accused of wrongdoing.

    A spokesman for the Trump campaign said it had no role in financing or organizing the Ellipse event and didn’t direct former staffers to do so. A spokeswoman for Mr. Trump declined to comment. At least five former Trump campaign staffers besides Ms. Wren assisted on the logistics of the Jan. 6 rally, according to the permit and Federal Election Commission records.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  11. On Saturday, Trump will hold a Make America Great Again rally outside Cleveland, Ohio in support of longtime aide-turned-Republican congressional candidate Max Miller, who is vying for the seat held by Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, a Cleveland native who voted for the second impeachment of Trump after the Jan. 6 riot on Capitol Hill.

    You can make book that he won’t be “whispering.”

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  12. 8.“….yes, but I was only impeached once!”

    — overheard at Washington cocktail party

    Haven’t you heard??? ‘Whispering’ is in these days.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  13. ProPublica is biased and ignorant.

    I don’t know about this particular instance, but in others, where I knew better, I’ve found them disingenuous to the point of being outright liars. I don’t trust them.

    nk (1d9030)

  14. Never fear, Commander in Farce Joe “the Chump Whisperer” Biden has your back… gooder and harder!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  15. “Analysis: Democrats are showing urgency on public safety, led by President Biden’s new crime-fighting agenda,”

    awaiting Murdock’s breathless headlines on the Democrats’ 180 hoon on public safety/law enforcement…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. Tuskegee Airmen, Tuskegee Syphillis Study… what’s the diff?

    Go Joe!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. Replace ‘Tuskegee’ with ‘NBA’ and you have the Kardashian experience in a nutshell.

    urbanleftbehind (23868b)

  18. “Analysis: Democrats are showing urgency on public safety, led by President Biden’s new crime-fighting agenda,”

    awaiting Murdock’s breathless headlines on the Democrats’ 180 hoon on public safety/law enforcement…

    You will have a long wait. It’s political grandstanding by both parties. The Federal government has very little to do with local law enforcement.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  19. In other news the current leader of the Republican Party asked the army to shoot other types of protestors and crack their skulls, leading to some push back by the generals:

    Mark Milley often found he was the lone voice of opposition to those demands during heated Oval Office discussions, according to excerpts of a new book, obtained by CNN, from Wall Street Journal reporter Michael Bender.

    Titled “Frankly, We Did Win This Election: The Inside Story of How Trump Lost,” the book reveals new details about how Trump’s language became increasingly violent during Oval Office meetings as protests in Seattle and Portland began to receive attention from cable new outlets. The President would highlight videos that showed law enforcement getting physical with protesters and tell his administration he wanted to see more of that behavior, the excerpts show.

    “That’s how you’re supposed to handle these people,” Trump told his top law enforcement and military officials, according to Bender. “Crack their skulls!”

    Trump also told his team that he wanted the military to go in and “beat the f–k out” of the civil rights protesters, Bender writes.

    “Just shoot them,” Trump said on multiple occasions inside the Oval Office, according to the excerpts.

    When Milley and then-Attorney General William Barr would push back, Trump toned it down, but only slightly, Bender adds.

    “Well, shoot them in the leg—or maybe the foot,” Trump said. “But be hard on them!”

    The new details about how Milley and a handful of other senior officials were forced to confront Trump’s increasingly volatile behavior during the final months of his presidency only add to an already detailed portrait of dysfunction inside the White House at that time.

    It also underscores the level of tension between Trump and top Pentagon officials leading up to the presidential election last November.

    CNN has reached out to Trump about the claims in Bender’s book. A spokesperson for Milley declined to comment.

    At times, Milley also clashed with top White House officials who sought to encourage the then-President’s behavior.

    During one Oval Office debate, senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller chimed in, equating the scenes unfolding on his television to those in a third-world country and claiming major American cities had been turned into war zones.

    “These cities are burning,” Miller warned, according to the excerpts.

    The comment infuriated Milley, who viewed Miller as not only wrong but out of his lane, Bender writes, noting the Army general who had commanded troops in Iraq and Afghanistan spun around in his seat and pointed a finger directly at Miller.

    “Shut the f–k up, Stephen,” Milley snapped, according to the excerpts.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/24/politics/bender-book-trump-milley-protests/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0nNmm2fdP6hsPabK02p9gTKuYubZFQ-ndvmJ0Z5sEJ9nYt7uhsYaTEZOo

    I guess for Trump some protestors are less dangerous than others. The dangerous need to be shot. The less dangerous encouraged to go invade the Capitol.

    Sidenote: why does it bother people if Biden whispers. Have they never whispered? or squinted?

    Victor (9ebafe)

  20. New Report Claims Senior Trump Aides Were Warned Jan. 6 Events Could Get Ugly

    Speaking of ugly- have you seen Pantssuit Queenie’s compulsive obsession to talk with her hands lately? Creepy.

    The single greatest threat to this planet is not thermonuclear war with North Korea; not a pandemic; not a confrontation with China or an eyeball to eyeball blinkfest with Vlad; nor an asteroid strike– or a transit strike in the City of Noo Yawk.

    It is the terrifying realization that Kamala Harris is literally a heartbeat away from the U.S. presidency as a doddering, squinty, whispering, 79 year old stumblebum, barely able to walk and talk, shuffles his way toward Eternity.

    But hey; “you bought ’em; you own ’em.”

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  21. Sidenote: why does it bother people if Biden whispers. Have they never whispered? or squinted?

    They project weakness- and are symptoms associated w/dementia.

    … and Putin smiled.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  22. @7 rip being concerned about consistency is like oj being concerned about domestic abuse

    JF (e1156d)

  23. On Saturday, Trump will hold a Make America Great Again rally outside Cleveland, Ohio …….
    …….
    Saturday’s rally — the first of a MAGA tour that Trump’s aides have teased for months — is expected to draw out diehards longing to be taken back to an era when they were less bitter about the turns life took: one when Trump was in the White House. And the president is likely to indulge them, increasingly eager to push the falsehoods that his reelection was deprived of him through nefarious attempts to doctor the vote.

    Welcome to the Trump Pity Party.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  24. @7 rip being concerned about consistency is like oj being concerned about domestic abuse

    Sorry you misconstrued my sarcasm.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  25. Every time I see Biden speak, he seems old, tired and short of breath. It’s like all he can do is stand there and read his script.

    Kamala will be President no later than February 2023.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  26. At every opportunity the question should be asked:

    “Why didn’t Trump pardon the brave patriots who followed his summons to Stop the Steal? Why has he left them to twist slowly in the wind at the hands of Biden’s accomplices?”

    It seems like a fine Trump-side wedge issue.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  27. Victor (9ebafe) — 6/25/2021 @ 11:27 am

    Yes, this groundbreaking info was released in his new book. Buy it and you can read more about things a “top US general” thinks you’d pay money to read about. No news on why this wasn’t released as an “anonymous source” at the time.

    The whispering sounds creepy. It looks like we’ve moved from crazy grandpa to really sketchy homeless guy. The content was also garbage. It was hard to tell with the whispering but was he bragging about using federal dollars to pay people to stay at home instead of getting a job and improving the economy?

    frosty (f27e97)

  28. Brace Yourself: Trump Starts Up His Rallies Again This Weekend
    ……..
    It will be interesting to see how the rally will be perceived. Trump’s choice to hold this rally in Wellington, a town in the middle of nowhere with a population of about 5,000, really is very strange. He could have chosen the county seat, Elyria, with a population of 54,000, or Lorain, with a population of 64,000. They’re both just half an hour away from the site he picked. It is also odd that he is holding a rally in a state whose GOP is experiencing some serious controversies. And then, to focus on blasting a popular congressman who was once a Saint Ignatius High School and Ohio State University football star—well, it’s almost as if Trump, to get personal attention, is throwing gasoline on a building that is already in flames.

    Let’s start with the state GOP. Last week, the Ohio House of Representatives expelled from its ranks a Republican member, Larry Householder, who had been the house speaker until he was ousted from that position last year. It was a massive bribery scandal that cost him first the speakership and then his seat: Householder and four other individuals (including a high-powered lobbyist who committed suicide in March) have been accused of accepting more than $60 million in bribe money from the utility FirstEnergy Corp. to secure a $1.3 billion public bailout of the company’s nuclear power plants.
    …….
    There is a Trump connection to this big bribery case: Bob Paduchik, a senior adviser to the Trump re-election campaign, made calls to members of the Ohio House of Representatives pressuring them to vote ‘yes’ on the bill in question. Paduchik was co-chairman of the Republican National Committee during Trump’s presidency, and with Trump’s backing, he became chairman of the Ohio GOP in February.

    In recent weeks, another of Trump’s Ohio projects has hit the skids in a big way. Lordstown Motors, a new electric pickup truck venture near Youngstown that was once a General Motors plant, has admitted to fudging the numbers to make the company look better than it really is. They claimed they had more than 100,000 locked-in pre-orders on the trucks they had hoped to produce. That number now appears to be fictional……

    ……Back in 2017, six months into his presidency, Trump advised a Youngstown audience:

    Let me tell you folks in Ohio and of this area: Don’t sell your house. Don’t sell your house. Do not sell it. We’re going to get those values up. We’re going to get those jobs coming back, and we’re going to fill up those factories or rip them down and build brand new ones. So it’s going to happen.

    …….
    Lordstown’s mayor, Arno Hill, told the Financial Times last week: “We’re survivors here in the Mahoning Valley. . . . We’re the land of broken promises.”
    …….
    Max Miller, 32, (whom Trump has endorsed against Rep. Anthony Gonzalez) a former Marine Corps reservist, was an aide on Trump’s 2016 campaign, then a deputy campaign manager on the 2020 campaign. In between, he worked for the White House as part of President Trump’s advance team.

    Miller, who has a troubling police record, has never run for elective office himself. But he has some family background in politics: He is the grandson of the late Samuel H. Miller, a longtime Cleveland real estate tycoon, who was active in the Cleveland Democratic community and his Jewish faith. Max Miller’s grandmother, Ruth Miller, ran for Congress four decades ago. In some respects, it seems as though Trump is backing a Republican candidate against Gonzalez for no other reason than that the challenger worked for him and is willing to run—and to go to Mar-a-Lago often to praise the former president.

    But the problem Miller will face is that Ohio’s 16th Congressional District is more suburban middle ground and less Trump Country. Plus, the district is more than than 20 percent Roman Catholic, and Gonzalez’s support of anti-abortion bills has likely not gone unnoticed.
    ……..

    Related:

    ……..
    Miller has been charged by police in his home state of Ohio with multiple offenses. In 2007, he was charged with assault, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest after punching another male in the back of the head and running away from police, police records show. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanor charges, and the case was later dismissed as part of a program for first offenders, court records show.

    In 2009, he was charged with underage drinking, a case that also was later dismissed under a first offenders’ program. The following year, he pleaded guilty to a disorderly conduct charge related to another altercation in Cleveland Heights, Ohio. That episode was related to a fight involving Miller shortly after leaving a hookah bar about 2 a.m. one morning. During the fight, Miller punched through a glass door, cut his wrist and left a trail of blood as he wandered off, a police report said.
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  29. hey rip, next are you gonna start railing about commenters bombing threads with off topic walls of text?

    JF (e1156d)

  30. hey rip, next are you gonna start railing about commenters bombing threads with off topic walls of text?

    If you are referring to post 28, it certainly is not off topic, since the rally is mentioned in Dana’s original post. But no, since if a Patterico, Dana, or JVW post is up long enough, the subject always changes at some point. Sammy frequently does it, but I don’t mind. His posts always bring forward interesting points of view.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  31. Just another of sundry attempts to distract from the schiffshow Biden-Harris junta antics…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  32. @25. Likely sooner. And given her vacuous stagecraft, terrifying.

    Her SS code name is ‘Pioneer.’

    Think Donner Pass.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  33. JF (e1156d) — 6/25/2021 @ 12:19 pm

    I do not know wether the comment is on or off topic, because I presently have rip’s comment filtered out because, I got tired of the wall-o-texts with little to no content of his own – basically just spam in my opinion. Comments like yours, in reaction to rip’s, reinforces my decision to filter out rip’s comments.

    I will, however, start reading rip’s comments if commenters I trust start responding to rip’s offerings, in a sustained rate, as though rip is actually bringing something interesting to the discussion. I bear no ill will at all towards rip; I just have no time for spam.

    felipe (484255)

  34. Chauvin sentenced to 22 1/2 years for offing criminal Floyd.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  35. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/25/2021 @ 12:32 pm

    I am pleased that you have returned to commenting here, Colonel; your comments are like Tobasco in food. Forgive me for not welcoming you back sooner.

    Welcome back!

    felipe (484255)

  36. 28.Brace Yourself: Trump Starts Up His Rallies Again This Weekend

    Woohoo! Summertime TeeVee entertainment!

    Sure fire hits like: The Dean Martin Summer Show; Sony & Cher Summer Show… and Seinfeld!

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  37. #13

    I think ProPublica is biased and ignorant.
    https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax

    “To capture the financial reality of the richest Americans, ProPublica undertook an analysis that has never been done before. We compared how much in taxes the 25 richest Americans paid each year to how much Forbes estimated their wealth grew in that same time period.

    We’re going to call this their true tax rate.

    The results are stark. According to Forbes, those 25 people saw their worth rise a collective $401 billion from 2014 to 2018. They paid a total of $13.6 billion in federal income taxes in those five years, the IRS data shows. That’s a staggering sum, but it amounts to a true tax rate of only 3.4%.”

    They named it “THE TRUE TAX RATE” and then applied it to unrealized gains, paper profits, whatever you want to call it.

    They rail against the ability of the rich to borrow against their assets, not mentioning that the same strategy is available to everyone that has an unrealized gain on their home.

    They once again trot out Warren Buffett and say “see he wants rates to be higher”, ignoring the fact that he doesn’t support a tax on unrealized gains.

    steveg (ebe7c1)

  38. Benghazi II its over. Msdnc and the clinton/biden news network have a story on this every night.

    asset (b142bd)

  39. @25. ‘Every time I see Biden speak, he seems old, tired and short of breath. It’s like all he can do is stand there and read his script.’

    Mini-strokes.

    ‘Vascular dementia (VaD) is dementia caused by problems in the supply of blood to the brain, typically a series of minor strokes, leading to worsening cognitive abilities, the decline occurring step by step.’ – source, wikitaketwoaspirinsandcallKamalinthemorning.omg.org

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  40. Thank you Dr. DCSCA.

    In other news, Chauvin sentenced to 22 1/2 years. Above the sentencing guidelines due to “position of trust and cruelty of the act.”

    Davethulhu (13b53b)

  41. “El Paso– Moments after Vice President Kamala Harris stepped off of the plane to finally visit the southern border, Rep. Veronica Escobar (D) jubilantly declared that “El Paso is the new Ellis Island.” – source, floridatoday

    My late and beloved aunt and uncle ‘jubilantly’ came to America through Ellis Island.

    From Wales.

    Legally.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  42. @40. The ‘Eyes’ have it. You’re welcome.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  43. 35… hey, my brother felipe! I hope you and yours are doing well.

    I’ll try to keep my comments to a minimum, as the continuing focus on Trump by some while Rome burns is a waste of precious time in my book.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. steveg (ebe7c1) — 6/25/2021 @ 1:06 pm

    The results are stark. According to Forbes, those 25 people saw their worth rise a collective $401 billion from 2014 to 2018.

    Nobody calculates income this way, and if you were to try, income would be alot less and.or the tax would be impossible to pay.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  45. @Rip good link at 28

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  46. John Miller (pseud), Stephen Miller, Jason Miller, Max Miller, … how many millers might a Trump-mill muster if a Trump-mill might muster Millers?

    nk (1d9030)

  47. Enough to choke a lawyer…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. Time123 (9f42ee) — 6/25/2021 @ 3:40 pm

    Thank you. Most of criticism is because I’m not posting snark and I’m anti-Trump (no secret, like Dana and our host).

    Rip Murdock (2975ef)


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