Patterico's Pontifications

5/4/2021

“You’re always gonna be a Mexican, you’ll never be white, you know that?”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:29 am



Enjoy this lovely interaction between one of our fine citizens, who is exercising what she believes to be her constitutional right to tape the police while she drives, and a very polite deputy who was smart enough to invest in his own bodycam:

Apparently Tucker Carlson found time to run a segment on this story last night despite his busy schedule of “asking questions” about the efficacy of the vaccine we all know he has happily taken.

H/t to Time123.

98 Responses to ““You’re always gonna be a Mexican, you’ll never be white, you know that?””

  1. We’re going to know the black racist’s name before too long, and it’s not going to go well for that b-tchy little karen.

    Paul Montagu (26e0d1)

  2. Oh look, another random nutcase!

    Dave (1bb933)

  3. Do you contend that the current climate of attitudes towards police plays no role in how this random nutcase behaves? That her attitude is not a reflection of widely held attitudes that police are “murderers”?

    I think your flip dismissal is ignoring a deeper problem.

    Patterico (e349ce)

  4. BTW, the unblurred image of her face is here, and it matches here. Just because she fell on hard times in the past, doesn’t justify her being an as-hole.
    Her name is Kalunda-Rae Iwamizu or Kalunda Jenkins, and she teaches (as of yesterday) at LA Southwest College. Her ratings prior to May 4th are not good.

    Paul Montagu (26e0d1)

  5. She’s as typical a representative of a teacher as Chauvin is of being a cop.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  6. @2 which Dave is this?

    maybe the Dave who cites random nutcases every other comment will chime in later

    JF (e1156d)

  7. Being a police officer is tough. You always have to worry about your safety and the safety of others, even when you think it is a normal stop. And just when you think you don’t have to worry about your life, you have to get verbally assaulted by racists.

    Hoi Polloi (093fb9)

  8. Like Karma, body cams swing both ways.

    B.A. DuBois (80f588)

  9. Oh look, another random nutcase!

    I guess in this nation of 330 million people that explains Jan 6, too.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  10. What a difference two days makes:

    May 2nd:

    President Joe Biden’s economic plan is unlikely to create inflation pressure in the U.S. because the boost to demand will be spread over a decade, said Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen.

    “I don’t believe that inflation will be an issue. But if it becomes an issue, we have tools to address it,” Yellen, the former Federal Reserve chair, said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “It’s spread out quite evenly over eight to 10 years. So, the boost to demand is moderate,” she said of the proposed spending.

    May 4th:

    Treasury Secretary Janet L. Yellen said higher interest rates might be needed to keep the economy from overheating given the large investments that the Biden administration is proposing to rebuild the nation’s infrastructure and remake its labor force.

    The comments, shown on Tuesday at an event sponsored by The Atlantic, come amid heightened concern from some economists and businesses that the United States is in for a period of higher inflation as stimulus money flows through the economy and consumers begin spending again.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  11. @10-

    I await the inflation spikes from the trillions spent by the Republican Congress and the Trump Administration.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  12. Thank you for the links in your comment #4, Paul. After seeing her, I revise my assessment of yesterday to “desperately in need of a Snickers (giant size)”.

    nk (1d9030)

  13. Oh look, another random nutcase!

    Dave (1bb933) — 5/4/2021 @ 8:47 am

    1 Not every interesting news story is an example of a broad social trend.
    2 I’ve commented repeatedly that reforms around accountability and transparency for police use of force are needed and I kind of wanted him to taze this lady.
    3 Illustrating that not every police officer reacts badly to disrespect is useful.

    Time123 (ca85c9)

  14. Do you contend that the current cilmate of attitudes towards police plays no role in how this random nutcase behaves? That her attitude is not a reflection of widely held attitudes that police are “murderers”?

    This is very subjective and based on her demeaner but I don’t think she was stating any sincerely held belief about the police. I think she was just looking for something hurtful to say. YMMV

    Time123 (ca85c9)

  15. I await the inflation spikes from the trillions spent by the Republican Congress and the Trump Administration.

    Biden will blame them, of course. But the truth is that Biden has proposed more deficit spending in his first year than they spent in 4. He has increased the debt by well over a trillion in his first 100 days.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  16. She’s as typical a representative of a teacher as Chauvin is of being a cop.

    She’s a community college professor, so she would be really upset you called her a “teacher.” Given the location of the college, it is unsurprising that she holds anti-police views; it would actually be surprising otherwise. What IS surprising, and what will probably cause her problems, is that she holds anti-Hispanic views given that her student body is now approaching 50% Hispanic.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  17. @10-

    I await the inflation spikes from the trillions spent by the Republican Congress and the Trump Administration.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 5/4/2021 @ 10:19 am

    inflation is a problem that get’s worse very very slowly, and then all at once.

    Time123 (ca85c9)

  18. I am more convinced now than I was yesterday that she was not expressing her own anti-Hispanic views, but instead was telling the deputy that the white supremacist systemic racist oppressive power system will always see him as a Mexican and not as white no matter how hard he tries to “act white”.

    And I venture that she would have been able to express that better if she had had a bucket of fried chicken with tater babies, biscuits and gravy, and a quart of chocolate ice cream, under her belt.

    nk (1d9030)

  19. 16. Kevin M (ab1c11) — 5/4/2021 @ 10:41 am

    is that she holds anti-Hispanic views given that her student body is now approaching 50% Hispanic.

    It’s not anti-Hispanic.

    “You’re always gonna be a Mexican, you’ll never be white, you know that?” means she faults him for taking the attitude of “whites” by joining the police force, and attributes bad motives to that.

    She doesn’t like that he seems to have left the reservation.

    No, that’s for native Americans, [Indians]

    Or plantation.

    No, that’s for African Americans.

    The barrio, maybe.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  20. In New York, there was a “nutcase” who made a very anti-police podcast. and she was drinking, too. On her way home, she saw some traffic cones (because of a fatal accident) and, many believe, deliberately barreled into it, trying to hit police, most of whom managed to get out of the way, but one of whom she struck and killed. She was pursued, and yelled at and insulted the police. When taken to a judge she said she was sorry.

    She has been charged with manslaughter.

    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-nyc-cop-fatal-crash-drunk-driver-precinct-20210427-y3gjh7eo2fbehmv33joaulwnta-story.html

    ..Jessica Beauvais, 32, was sobbing outside the 107th Precinct as an officer led her to a squad car and guided her into the backseat.

    “I am sorry that I hit him and that he’s dead. I didn’t mean to. I’m sorry!” she sobbed.

    Beauvais was asked by reporters where she was coming from before the early-morning crash that ended the life of NYPD Highway Officer Anastasios Tsakos, 43, along the Long Island Expressway.

    “I was coming from the studio,” she said as the car door was closing and her surgical mask began to slip. “I do a podcast.”

    Cops said Beauvais ignored traffic cones and flashing lights before striking Tsakos with her Volkswagen Passat. With her windshield smashed, she sped away from the crash but was arrested a mile away — where she ranted and swore at cops as they took her into custody, police sources said.

    It wasn’t the first vitriol she spewed about police officers. Just hours before the incident, the accused drunken driver shared some sobering thoughts about cops in the wake of guilty verdicts against former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin who was convicted last week of murdering George Floyd during an arrest last year….

    Sobering is not the rght word here.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  21. “You’re always gonna be a Mexican, you’ll never be white, you know that?” means she faults him for taking the attitude of “whites” by joining the police force, and attributes bad motives to that.

    Nevertheless, I can see her having problems here anyway. Andi-assimilation is racist from the get-go.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  22. *anti

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  23. @20: She’s sorry she got caught. Probably sorry she thought it was a good idea. Not sorry he’s dead.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  24. @3. No, but her ‘attitude’ is somewhat reflective of the mindset of Southern Californians venting steam, overwhelmed by illegal immigrants in general braking into the country across the border and granted refuge in sanctuary cities. And given my own experience w/LA area law enforcement regarding a wholly unjustified ticket for a supposed seat belt violation, she may very well have felt a level of overly ambitious, anal harassment and was videoing. The whole thing looks lousy all around– be she a teacher or a hooker- and a warning would have sufficed; but tickets for cellphone use stink of revenue generation and rank up there w/tickets for low tread tires and broken tail lights. Meanwhile, one of Joe’s Apus is getting robbed at the 7-11 Kwiki-Mart near by.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  25. The ‘deeper problem’ is television.

    When it comes to Jimmy Dean Patties or a policing action, watching the sausage getting made is never pretty.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  26. I agree with your take, nk, but she was still being a racist. Toward white people.

    Paul Montagu (26e0d1)

  27. Enjoy this lovely interaction between one of our fine citizens…

    Enjoyed this even more 😉 :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaej_HbaqZU

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  28. Hang on: the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department still doesn’t have bodycams for their deputies? A department mired in corruption with their former leader having been sent off to prison, their current leader courting controversy after controversy, and allegations that gang culture has infiltrated the rank-and-file, yet no regulatory agency has demanded that they set up a bodycam policy and procure the equipment? That’s astounding.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  29. Hang on: the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department still doesn’t have bodycams for their deputies?

    High speed rail doesn’t pay for itself…

    Hoi Polloi (093fb9)

  30. High speed rail doesn’t pay for itself…

    Which is a complete non-sequitur.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  31. High speed rail doesn’t pay for itself…

    I think Hoi Polloi is very cleverly tweaking me on my sad obsession with the awful high-speed rail fiasco. Well played, Hoi Polloi.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  32. The LASD has been in the process of rolling out body cams since before 2019, but implementation has been delayed by the pandemic.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  33. Her problem isn’t racism, though she’s doubtlessly racist; her problem is stupidity! Yelling at a police officer who has pulled you over ain’t exactly the way to win friends and influence people. She’s angry and lashing out, because she is stupid.

    We’ve just had a whole year of the Usual Suspects trying to get the police defunded, just as we’ve gone through a whole year of murder skyrocketing. In a reversal of “if it bleeds, it leads,” The Philadelphia Inquirer no longer even reports on murder in the city — there were seven homicides in Philly over the weekend, and the Inquirer had nothing on it at all — because, unless the victim is an innocent child, or a “somebody,” or a cute little white girl, it’s just not news anymore.

    The Dana in Kentucky (e9cac9)

  34. Which is a complete non-sequitur.

    When the state of California throws $100 billion down a rathole, it’s a fine answer to any “why didn’t they spend money on ______?” question.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  35. The LASD didn’t need body cams to photograph celebrity helicopter crash sites.

    Rip Murdock (d20518)

  36. Yelling at a police officer who has pulled you over ain’t exactly the way to win friends and influence people.

    The fact that she thought she could do this is a perfect refutation to the institutional-racism fear-of-cops argument. She is acting out of PRIVILEGE, not fear. I may have to adjust my thining about this whole subject because of her.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  37. When the state of California throws $100 billion down a rathole, it’s a fine answer to any “why didn’t they spend money on ______?” question.

    Funding for law enforcement comes from local taxpayers (or federal grants), not the state. I agree with you about the bullet train being a solution in search of a problem.

    Rip Murdock (d20518)

  38. You’d never get this resolution out of a bodycam, Rip.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  39. Do you contend that the current climate of attitudes towards police plays no role in how this random nutcase behaves? That her attitude is not a reflection of widely held attitudes that police are “murderers”?

    No.

    But how many police encounters per day are there in the country? What fraction unfold like this one?

    To focus undue attention on an extreme outlier like this seems similar to focusing undue attention on the similarly rare outliers where police act very badly.

    And I understood several of your recent posts to decry that very tendency.

    I think your flip dismissal is ignoring a deeper problem.

    The problems are definitely there, but I’m less sure I see how this helps.

    Dave (1bb933)

  40. Money is fungible. If the state doesn’t give you money for X, you take it from Y.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  41. So, this lady is completely awful. It sounded like (but I may be mistaken) like her son was also in the car at the time, which would make this whole interaction even worse.

    My question for those of you who don’t like “cancel culture”: Should she lose her job. I think this absolutely demonstrates some unfitness to teach, and wouldn’t shed a tear over her employer ousting her. Thoughts?

    nate_w (25619c)

  42. I think Hoi Polloi is very cleverly tweaking me on my sad obsession with the awful high-speed rail fiasco. Well played, Hoi Polloi.

    Well, big city subways in a state prone to earthquakes seems ill-advised, too. But the jerk who designed freeway access and exit ramps ought to be arrested, imprisoned or deported. It’s opposite of how they’re designed back East and cause major traffic tie-ups because of it.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  43. I mean, who thinks like that?
    “You’re always gonna be a Mexican, you’ll never be white, you know that?”

    I mean, unless we’re talking about the Shaun King/Rachel Dolezal of the world, that I can see. But, what’s the driver of this broad’s mindset that assumes that this Hispanic officer wants to be white?

    whembly (446c04)

  44. @41

    My question for those of you who don’t like “cancel culture”: Should she lose her job. I think this absolutely demonstrates some unfitness to teach, and wouldn’t shed a tear over her employer ousting her. Thoughts?

    nate_w (25619c) — 5/4/2021 @ 12:47 pm

    I wouldn’t fire her just for that. Maybe she was having a bad day and just had an irrational meltdown.

    But, to stop cancel culture is to literally stop engaging in cancel culture.

    whembly (446c04)

  45. whembly, the driver is of the opinion that the officer is part of the murderous police state in an attempt to try to gain the favor of the white man who will never accept him as such, and is thus a traitor to minorities everywhere. Or at least my understanding.

    nate_w (25619c)

  46. Frank oxy-contin luntz’s “roommate” says he won’t whip for war monger liz cheney.

    asset (cf8824)

  47. High speed rail doesn’t pay for itself…

    Lest you forget, President Plagiarist was in Philly on April 30 tooting his horn about Amtrak and high speed rail potential:

    “It’s a bargain; it’s economical!” -President Plagiarist, 4/30/2021 3:05 PM EDT

    He’s an IDIOT: ‘Amtrak has lost money every year since 1970.’ – source, businessinsider.com

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  48. My question for those of you who don’t like “cancel culture”: Should she lose her job. I think this absolutely demonstrates some unfitness to teach, and wouldn’t shed a tear over her employer ousting her. Thoughts?

    The rush to frame every job as one of such importance that the poor judgment shown by being an a$$ is disqualifying usually seems in bad faith to me. Look at this case. She lost it and was rude to the police officer and that’s what you think should get her fired. Not the fact that she was ticketed for using a cell phone while driving. Which creates a real danger to public health.

    She seems hateful and miserable. I won’t shed a tear if she’s fired because she seems so horrible. But people shouldn’t be judged solely on a single stupid moment just because it goes viral.

    If she worked for me i wouldn’t even consider firing her for this; a rude, bigoted, and insulting outburst at a police officer during a traffic stop.

    I wouldn’t let someone that was ticked for using a cell phone while driving operate a company vehicle until the points come off her license though.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  49. I think Hoi Polloi is very cleverly tweaking me on my sad obsession with the awful high-speed rail fiasco. Well played, Hoi Polloi.
    JVW (ee64e4) — 5/4/2021 @ 12:14 pm

    Which is a complete non-sequitur.
    When the state of California throws $100 billion down a rathole, it’s a fine answer to any “why didn’t they spend money on ______?” question.
    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 5/4/2021 @ 12:24 pm

    A two-fer! I might have to pull a Costanza – go out on top and never post again.

    Hoi Polloi (093fb9)

  50. Airlines are subsidized and have had numerous bail outs. Highways and roads are subsidized thru taxes or buses would have nothing to run on. Most airports are subsidized with tax money. Also security am track trains don’t crash into tall buildings.

    asset (cf8824)

  51. 42, sketch that out. I’ve heard Kevin M describe some LA area interchanges with surface streets resembling circles. Sounds like cloverleafs without the diagonal diamond ramps on the outside. Perhaps auxiliary lanes gone awry; I did get put off by the strict ramp metering/HOV bypass preference.

    46, It’s about damn time Cheney start cashing in some CIA assets.

    urbanleftbehind (355161)

  52. My question for those of you who don’t like “cancel culture”: Should she lose her job. I think this absolutely demonstrates some unfitness to teach, and wouldn’t shed a tear over her employer ousting her. Thoughts?

    Should she lose her job over this? No.

    But assuming this isn’t a one-off, she may have deserved firing for some time now. You never catch a drunk driver the first time he drives drunk (with the possible exception of NY Eve).

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  53. Well, big city subways in a state prone to earthquakes seems ill-advised, too.

    Ever been to Tokyo? Quakes, monsoons that flood the tunnels, salarymen with groping hands; lots of reasons not to have subways, but they have tons of them. And I haven’t even mentioned what the kaiju.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  54. *what

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  55. I’ve heard Kevin M describe some LA area interchanges with surface streets resembling circles.

    Hunh? I probably have talked about interchanges where reasonable people may disagree about the number of ramps (19? 20? 21?), but I’m not sure what that quote is talking about.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  56. @54. So? Doesn’t change the issue of being “ill-advised.”

    Population density- Tokyo ain’t LA, either. They build a nuke plant that was ill-advised” and a quake produced a world class disaster:

    The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster was a 2011 nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Ōkuma, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan. The event was caused by the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami. source, – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  57. But the jerk who designed freeway access and exit ramps ought to be arrested, imprisoned or deported.

    The first, oh, 5 freeways built in the US were built in L.A. The Pasadena Freeway is a notorious deathtrap, with its 30 foot onramps and offramps. The cloverleaf was used a lot because it saves space and is cheaper that flyover ramps, but sure, it’s a nightmare once anything it touches gets congested. The 101-405 interchange as you enter the SV Valley is a perfect example of this.

    But there are early interchanges in East LA, combining I-5, I-10, US 101 and CA-60 that are not for the faint of heart. I nearly died there once. Still, nothing quite matches the I-105, I-110 interchange for complexity.

    There was another in OC, but they fixed it.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  58. Hey lady,

    “Mexican” is not a race. It’s an ethnicity or nationality. There is no racial category for Mexican, or even Hispanic, on the census.

    There are white Mexicans (and white Hispanics) with blond hair and blue eyes. It would behoove a professor to know these things.

    norcal (01e272)

  59. @57: The Fukashima plant was obsolete when it was built in the late 60’s and was identified as a problem plant in the 1990s, and repeated warnings wrt the plant and earthquakes were given several times over the next decade, all of which were ignored. Several other plants closer to the epicenter of the quake survived quite well since they had decent seawalls. And in fact the Fukashima plant did not fail because of an internal or structural problem, it failed because its cooling water was supplied from an external pump which was disabled by the tsunami.

    Not that this has a thing to do with earthquakes as not one person died in the Tokyo rail system due to the 2011 earthquake.

    Here is a video of the panic in the stations during the 2011 quake:

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  60. Well-stated, Kevin.

    I can’t take any environmentalist seriously if he/she doesn’t support nuclear power. And, as a Nevadan, I have no problem with storing nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain.

    norcal (01e272)

  61. Storing it at Yucca Mountain is loads better than storing it in lightly protected containers next to the reactors. When the disaster happens, I will be the first to say “I TOLD YOU SO”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  62. Alas, Yucca Mountain is Nevada’s version of NIMBY. It’s the best grandstanding tool in the state, and it’s available to both parties.

    norcal (01e272)

  63. I am amused by those who think nuclear waste is horrible to store, yet are big fans of electric cars. Do they have any idea what the toxicity of modern batteries are when you are done with them? While recycling is suggested, it costs more to recover the cobalt, lithium, copper and nickel from these batteries than it costs to mine, meaning some other market force (e.g. government taxes and user fees) must be injected to create the incentive to recycle.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  64. Don’t trouble me with irksome details about battery disposal, Kevin. Let’s just do electric cars now and cross that bridge when we come to it.

    “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.” :)

    norcal (01e272)

  65. “Who knew?”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  66. Back to the topic, we’ll know if this lady is “between jobs” when we hear of a rash of fast food drive-through robberies in the LA area, where all the robber demands each time is “Six Quarter Pounder With Cheese Meals and Supersize them!”.

    nk (1d9030)

  67. Tucker Carlson put this story near the top of his show. I’ve heard him recommend getting the vaccine. BTW I’ve had both shots.

    DN (eb9ca3)

  68. So, I got this letter today from our new president, mailed by the IRS, telling me that he’d now fulfilled a campaign promise and that his stimulus programs were helping the country recover.

    How is this not a violation of the Hatch Act, which is being used as we speak to pursue Trump appointees?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  69. Back to the topic, we’ll know if this lady is “between jobs” when

    when we start hearing about people getting fired for supporting BLM, and she’s right there talking about how she lost her job because a racist cop lied about her.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  70. I will point out that while I generally do not open campaign mail from anyone, I do open mail from the IRS.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  71. How is this not a violation of the Hatch Act, which is being used as we speak to pursue Trump appointees?

    The Hatch Act doesn’t apply to the President (or Vice President).

    Dave (1bb933)

  72. It’s nutcases all the way down:

    Former Neo-Nazi Leader Sentenced to 3 Years in ‘Swatting’ Scheme

    A former leader of an extremist group was sentenced to three and a half years in prison on Tuesday for his role in a “swatting” scheme whose targets included journalists, a sitting cabinet secretary and a predominantly Black church, federal prosecutors said.

    John Cameron Denton, 27, of Montgomery, Texas, whom the Justice Department identified as a former leader of the Atomwaffen Division, a paramilitary neo-Nazi group, was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in a swatting conspiracy in which he and others reported false claims involving “pipe bombs, hostage takings or other violent activity” to the authorities in hopes of drawing a forceful police response to the front door of an unwitting third party.

    Their efforts led to attacks on 134 locations across the country from October 2018 to February 2019, according to the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia. Prosecutors said that Mr. Denton and many of his co-conspirators “chose targets because they were motivated by racial animus.”

    Dave (1bb933)

  73. @58. It’s the way the access and exit ramps are designed. In CA, traffic merges on to the freeway ahead of tracci exiting so they fight and clog the trffic low. Back east, It’s just the opposite- traffic accessing the freeways merge ahead of the exiting traffic. It’s just poorly designed in CA.

    @60. Doesn’t change the ‘ill-advised’ point be it obsolete or not.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  74. The first, oh, 5 freeways built in the US were built in L.A. The Pasadena Freeway is a notorious deathtrap, with its 30 foot onramps and offramps.

    When I am feeling devil-may-care reckless, I like to try to enter the Southbound Pasadena/Harbor Freeway at Avenue 52 (click on that link to view a Google Map of the area), not at the height of rush hour when everyone has been slowed down to 20 mph but just before that — say 3:15 pm or thereabouts — when the freeway is starting to get crowded but people are still traveling at 50 mph through that stretch. It’ll make your life flash right before your eyes.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  75. ^74.tracci.

    Covfefe!!

    Gesundheit.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  76. @63. What goes round comes around; at the turn of the century- in 1900 the largest group of vehicles in NYC were battery-powered electric vehicles. Chiefly electric-powered delivery vans… to cut down on all of the horse-drawn wagons— and horse manure.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  77. Never attributed to BLMism what can be explained by some cop grabbing the last Bavarian Kreme-filled at the Dunkin the day before.

    nk (1d9030)

  78. *attributed*

    nk (1d9030)

  79. nk- I venture that she would have been able to express that better if she had had a bucket of fried chicken with tater babies, biscuits and gravy, and a quart of chocolate ice cream, under her belt.

    Maybe after her breakfast, all that stuff bouncing around her stomach just caused a sustained series of racist belches. She’s a victim. She grew up in a food desert

    steveg (ebe7c1)

  80. Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

    – W.B. Yeats

    Dave (1bb933)

  81. Two words: Sandra Bland. Find your own links, you all never read them when others post them anyway.

    Mini Napoleon didn’t like that she wasn’t smiling and making eyes at him while he was traffic-stopping her, so he kidnapped her off the street arrested her for resisting arrest and threw her in a Texas jail, where she “was found hanged in her cell”.

    This? This is only good for jokes.

    nk (1d9030)

  82. exercising what she believes to be her constitutional right to tape the police

    Fordyce v. City of Seattle, 55 F. 3d 436, has affirmed that she does have this right in the ninth circuit.

    while she drives

    There are limits on the right and presumably, this is the heart of this sentence. Based on the video I’d say “while she sits in her car” since that’s all the video showed.

    Are there any cases that establish that using a phone to record video while sitting in a car that is not moving is in violation of the various “no texting” laws?

    You’re always gonna be a Mexican

    This might say more about the quality of the education system in CA than about racism. Odds are the officer was born in the good ole US of A. Whatever else he might be he’s American. How common is it that CA LEO’s are foreign nationals?

    you’ll never be white, you know that

    This is also not true. As soon as that officer shoots a properly diversified person he will immediately be white, or at least mostly white.

    frosty (f27e97)

  83. Yelling at a police officer who has pulled you over ain’t exactly the way to win friends and influence people.

    The fact that she thought she could do this is a perfect refutation to the institutional-racism fear-of-cops argument. She is acting out of PRIVILEGE, not fear. I may have to adjust my thining about this whole subject because of her.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 5/4/2021 @ 12:27 pm

    While you’re doing that also ask yourself whether you think white people have “the talk” with their kids about police interactions. Then ask yourself whether those kids listened.

    Also, mix in the “Bryant shouldn’t have been shot” discussion that’s going around and what that really might be saying.

    frosty (f27e97)

  84. There are limits on the right and presumably, this is the heart of this sentence. Based on the video I’d say “while she sits in her car” since that’s all the video showed.

    It’s been a while since I listened but I thought the officer said he pulled over for using her phone. that means he saw her using it while driving. Or am I missing something.

    Time123 (66d88c)

  85. Yelling at a police officer who has pulled you over ain’t exactly the way to win friends and influence people.

    The fact that she thought she could do this is a perfect refutation to the institutional-racism fear-of-cops argument. She is acting out of PRIVILEGE, not fear. I may have to adjust my thining about this whole subject because of her.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 5/4/2021 @ 12:27 pm

    If you’re looking for a universal rule without exception you’re going to be disappointed. But this situation clearly provides a counter example to the assertion that the police aggressively use force on minorities that show them any disrespect.

    Time123 (af99e9)

  86. You’re always gonna be a Mexican

    This might say more about the quality of the education system in CA than about racism. Odds are the officer was born in the good ole US of A. Whatever else he might be he’s American. How common is it that CA LEO’s are foreign nationals?

    I think it’s just Bigotry on her part.

    It is interesting how her race changes the likely meaning though. Contrast what you would think a 50 year old white man with a confederate flag T-shirt would have meant.

    Time123 (66d88c)

  87. In most recent cases, it seems to be a matter of non-compliance in a situation where the officer has fear for their own safety rather than “disrespect”.

    Dave (1bb933)

  88. 84. frosty (f27e97) — 5/5/2021 @ 6:23 am

    As soon as that officer shoots a properly diversified person he will immediately be white, or at least mostly white.

    And if a policeman shoots a white person unjustifably, it’s mainly a local issue only.

    https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/idaho-man-fatally-shot-backyard-by-officer-who-thought-he-was-armed-suspect/VOJT7IGX6BBM3N6GX46EI4IYVA

    Idaho man fatally shot in backyard by officer who thought he was armed suspect

    The man, although mistaken for someone else and at his own home, was armed and he didn’t let go of his weapon. There is a long history of hostility by some people to law enforcement in Idaho.

    Here is the New York Times version of the February shooting:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/us/idaho-police-shooting.html

    The shooting took place shortly after midnight on Monday, only minutes after a Bonneville County Sheriff’s deputy tried to make a traffic stop for a broken tail light in Idaho Falls.

    The vehicle stopped on a corner, and a man fled into a residential neighborhood, the police said. A woman remained in the car and spoke to sheriff’s deputies, the authorities said.

    The deputy then radioed that the man had fled, reporting the direction and a description of his clothing, including a black shirt.

    Officers from the Idaho Falls Police Department and Bonneville County Sheriff’s Office arrived and started searching for the man.

    A resident told an officer that the man had run through a yard, and “that they believed the suspect had a gun,” the police said. The officer relayed that information to the others.

    As the search continued, the police said, the authorities identified the man as someone with “multiple warrants” for his arrest, including for felony battery on an officer, resisting or obstructing arrest, and providing false information to law enforcement.

    The woman in the car showed officers a message that allowed them to trace the man’s GPS location, showing that he was in the backyard of a nearby residence, the police said.

    “Officers and deputies surrounded the residence and backyard in order to prevent the suspect from fleeing,” the department said. It added that officers arrived with their guns drawn because of the report that he may have been armed and because of his “prior history of violence when interacting with police officers.”

    The officers then heard yelling and approached the backyard, where they found a man wearing a black shirt and holding a gun.

    The department said that the officers told him to drop the gun. At some point in the confrontation, one of the officers shot the man.

    “We do not currently have the answers as to what exactly occurred during these moments,” Chief Johnson said. Officers and emergency medical personnel from the fire department tried to save the man, but were unsuccessful, he said.

    The officers later learned that the victim was not the man they were searching for, but a resident at the address.

    A later shooting seems more justified.

    https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/community/boise/article250630379.html

    Police shoot, kill man after call to Garden City home. It’s Idaho’s fifth in 2021.

    At around 12:50 a.m., three Garden City officers responded to a call of a domestic disturbance in the 5100 block of North Quinella Street in Garden City. Shortly after arriving, police say a 58-year-old white man walked out of a home and allegedly pointed a handgun at police and threatened the officers.

    Two officers pulled their own handguns and fired at the man, according to the news release. Though police called for paramedics and began life-saving efforts, the man died from his injuries.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  89. A lot of people seem to like pointing guns at police in Idaho. Second amendment, you know.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  90. And what some bad apples (federal) did once or twice over the course of more than twenty five years has been made into a slander against all police.

    Sammy Finkelman (51cd0c)

  91. OT- From a framed evening newspaper in my den:

    Date: Friday, May 5, 1961

    Headline:

    FIRST U.S. ASTRONAUT RIDES SAFELY INTO SPACE

    Subhead:

    Recovered In Atlantic;
    Cmdr. Shepard’s Capsule Is
    Taken Aboard Carrier
    After Historic Feat

    ______

    ‘Cape Canaveral- Astronaut Alan B. Shepard successfully blazed a U.. trail into th fringes of space today. His Freedom 7 capsule made a normal landing in the Atlantic after the sub-orbital flight. The historic mission was apparently carried out without any major difficulties. Shepard was reported unharmed. The Redstone rocket carrying Shepard was launched at 9:34 AM EST. He was picked up in the Atlantic at 9:53 AM.’

    60 years ago today:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc0ccOmcPno

    “Okay, José, you’re on your way!” – Deke Slayton, May 5, 1961

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  92. Contrast what you would think a 50 year old white man with a confederate flag T-shirt would have meant.

    Time123 (66d88c) — 5/5/2021 @ 6:56 am

    I would consider that evidence that the 50 yo white man doesn’t know the difference between race and nationality, i.e. his actions tell me about his ignorance. Basically, the same thing I learned about this woman.

    If someone else is imagining what a person thinks and assigning labels based on race I’d say that’s a different thing.

    frosty (f27e97)

  93. It’s been a while since I listened but I thought the officer said he pulled over for using her phone. that means he saw her using it while driving. Or am I missing something.

    Time123 (66d88c) — 5/5/2021 @ 6:41 am

    I didn’t see that in the video. She didn’t let him explain at the beginning why she was pulled over. (insert classic right to remain silent joke here)

    The first comment about cell phone use was after it got ugly. So, no, I don’t see in the video that the officer is saying he pulled her over for using the phone. He says you can’t be using a phone while driving but it’s a vague enough statement that he could be referring to what she is doing at the time he makes the comment. It’s possible in the reporting about the video that the officer makes this claim. It’s also a reasonable inference to make from context. But it’s not in the video.

    For what it’s worth, I agree with people who advise against this method of taping a traffic stop for this very reason. If you are concerned about traffic stops get a dashcam or a mount to hold your phone.

    frosty (f27e97)

  94. Frosty, I think your comment at 95 is a more accurate interpretation.

    Time123 (f5cf77)

  95. When I steal a car, I like to live stream it using the iPad the elementary school gave to the neighbors kid (stole that too). Its cheap life insurance for the whole family when you consider the payouts Crump is getting people for getting shot while committing crimes

    steveg (ebe7c1)

  96. When I steal a car, I like to live stream it using the iPad the elementary school gave to the neighbors kid (stole that too). Its cheap life insurance for the whole family when you consider the payouts Crump is getting people for getting shot while committing crimes

    steveg (ebe7c1)


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