Weekend Open Thread
[guest post by Dana]
Here are a few news items to chew over. Feel free to share any items that you think might interest readers. Please include links.
First news item
Current status of the Republican Party:
Our first session of New Member Orientation covered COVID in Congress.
Masks, masks, masks….
I proudly told my freshman class that masks are oppressive.
In GA, we work out, shop, go to restaurants, go to work, and school without masks.
My body, my choice.#FreeYourFace
— Marjorie Taylor Greene đşđ¸ (@mtgreenee) November 13, 2020
SMDH.
Second news item
Trump claimed this:
700,000 ballots were not allowed to be viewed in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh which means, based on our great Constitution, we win the State of Pennsylvania!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 14, 2020
Pennsylvaniaâs Secretary of State said Friday that she would decline to recount or re-canvass votes cast in the presidential election last week. Kathy Boockvar wrote in a statement that âno statewide candidate was defeated by one-half of one percent or less of the votes cast.â
Thirds news item
Gov. Newsom: Do as I say, not as I do. And whatever you do, ignore that CA is the second state to report 1 million cases of COVID-19:
California Gov. Gavin Newsom and his wife attended a dinner party with a dozen attendees from several different householdsâdespite his own administration recommending that people refrain from such gatherings during the coronavirus pandemic. The Nov. 6 dinner for one of his political advisers was held outdoors at Napa Valleyâs swanky French Laundry restaurant, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. Communications director Nathan Click said that the party âfollowed public health guidelines and the restaurantâs health protocolsâall in line with the stateâs rules for restaurant operation.â But, after the Chronicle published its story, Newsom said he shouldnât have gone. âI should have modeled better behavior and not joined the dinner,â he said.
Third news item
More do as I say, not as I do:
House Dem and GOP leaders are holding respective dinners for new members.
.@SpeakerPelosi told me itâs safe. âItâs very spaced,â she said and there is enhanced ventilation and the Capitol physician signed off. pic.twitter.com/ZXjf72lnrP
— Leigh Ann Caldwell (@LACaldwellDC) November 13, 2020
After getting hammered with criticism, the plans were modified:
Our office strictly follows the guidance of the Office of Attending Physician, including for this dinner. To be a further model for the nation, this event has been modified to allow Members-elect to pick up their meals to go in a socially-distanced manner. https://t.co/s2pSyUOCbm
— Drew Hammill (@Drew_Hammill) November 13, 2020
Fourth news item
âWhether it was because of the respect for the institution, because of lessons learned from his father, bad memories of his own transition or just basic decency, President Bush would end up doing all he could to make the 11 weeks between my election and his departure go smoothly. I promised myself that when the time came I would treat my successor the same way.â
Ensuring a smooth transition was a family affair:
Fifth news item
Pressing on in spite of Trump’s resistance:
U.S. President-elect Joe Biden will be briefed by national security experts next week, Biden transition official Jen Psaki said on Friday, amid concerns that being out of the loop due to delays to the transition could be a national security risk.
A handful of Republican senators have urged the Trump administration to allow Biden to receive presidential daily intelligence briefings, which the president-elect traditionally receives before taking office.
Related: Former Chief of Staff to President Trump, John Kelly, weighs in:
âYou lose a lot if the transition is delayed because the new people are not allowed to get their head in the game,â Kelly said Friday. âThe president, with all due respect, does not have to concede. But itâs about the nation. It hurts our national security because the people who should be getting [up to speed], itâs not a process where you go from zero to 1,000 miles per hour.â
âMr. Trump doesnât have to concede if he doesnât want to, I guess, until the full election process is complete. But thereâs nothing wrong with starting the transition, starting to get people like the national security people, obviously the president and the vice president-elect, if they are in fact elected, to start getting them [up to speed] on the intelligence,â he said.
Sixth news item
Contrary to Trump’s dire warnings:
President-elect Joe Bidenâs top coronavirus adviser said on Friday there were no plans for a wholesale nationwide lockdown to curb the surging coronavirus as three U.S. West Coast states jointly called for a halt in non-essential travel.
Seventh news item
“We’re going to win Wisconsin,” he began. “Arizona â it’ll be down to 8,000 votes, and if we can do an audit of the millions of votes, we’ll find 8,000 votes easy. If we can do an audit, we’ll be in good shape there.”
“Georgia, we’re going to win,” he continued, “because now, we’re down to about 10,000, 11,000 votes, and we have hand-counting” â a reference to the coming recount. “Hand-counting is the best. To do a spin of the machine doesn’t mean anything. You pick up 10 votes. But when you hand-count â I think we’re going to win Georgia.” He’ll also win North Carolina, Trump joked, “unless they happen to find a lot of votes. I said, ‘When are they going to put in the new votes in North Carolina? When are they going to find a batch from Charlotte?'”
Then there are two more â Michigan and Pennsylvania. “The two big states,” Trump said, before allowing, “They’re all sort of big.” In those two, Trump is pinning his strategy on protesting the exclusion of his campaign’s observers during critical periods of vote-counting. “They wouldn’t let our poll watchers and observers watch or observe,” Trump said. “That’s a big thing. They should throw those votes out that went through during those periods of time when [Trump observers] weren’t there. We went to court, and the judge ordered [the observers] back, but that was after two days, and millions of votes could have gone through. Millions. And we’re down 50,000.”
Eighth news item
In the right place at the right time:
When a bystander collapsed at the Veterans Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery Wednesday, a nurse was nearby and rushed to his aid. She happened to be the wife of the nationâs top military officer, Gen. Mark Milley…
âI just saw legs laying there,â said Milley, a practicing nurse.
Milley ran to see if she could help and found the man unresponsive.
âWhen I first got there, he was breathing in a very erratic way that he wasnât really taking air into his lungs as he should have been,â she said. âAnd then he stopped breathing.â
The man had no pulse. Milley said she directed someone to call 911 and started chest compressions. âI did about two cycles of CPR, and then he just took a big, deep breath and kind of groaned a little bit and then started moving around.â
Milley detected his pulse and within a few minutes he began to respond to her questions.
âI put him in a side recovery position and just talked to him and told him what was going on and encouraged him to take deep breaths,â she said.
Ninth news item
Nearly 9 out of 10 Los Angeles Police Department officers did not feel supported by Chief Michel Moore and did not believe he or other commanders provided strong leadership during recent protests and unrest, according to a summer survey conducted by the officersâ union.
Many officers said Moore should resign, accusing him in comments they submitted with the survey of âcoweringâ to Black Lives Matter protesters, âpanderingâ to city politicians and ânot having an organized planâ during the unrest, the union said.
Nearly 70% of respondents said the department was unprepared for the protests, which followed the May police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, and close to 40% said they were thinking of leaving the force.
…
However, officers panned the chief for kneeling with protesters â a sign, to them, that he was capitulating to a violent crowd. Many questioned why he did not highlight more of the positives about officers as protests spawned more and more questions about LAPD behavior, the union said.
This:
âAfter all, what can a first impression tell us about someone weâve just met for a minute in the lobby of a hotel? For that matter, what can a first impression tell us about anyone? Why, no more than a chord can tell us about Beethoven, or a brushstroke about Botticelli. By their very nature, human beings are so capricious, so complex, so delightfully contradictory, that they deserve not only our consideration, but our reconsiderationâand our unwavering determination to withhold our opinion until we have engaged with them in every possible setting at every possible hour.â
Amor Towles, A Gentleman in Moscow
Have a good weekend.
–Dana
There is something in the human worship of symbols and signs that makes a “concession”, which is substantively irrelevant though symbolically important, the necessary precondition in people’s minds to providing for a transition of power, which is actually really important to get right.
Even Trump supporters would probably be willing to admit that there’s a strong chance that Biden will be president. And if so, then it would only be good government to take steps to make that possible transition go smoothly. Call it contingency planning.
But because Trump is a “winner” if only in his own head, and acknowledging the possibility of defeat is something only losers do, then nope – no concession to be had. Good government? Something only drones and drudges and bureaucrats worry about.
Trump supporters really give up a lot when they put their faith into a Mad King.
Victor (4959fb) — 11/14/2020 @ 1:43 amAfter volunteering to make GotV phone calls for Jerry Ford when I was 13 (and shaking his hand at the last rally before he went home to Grand Rapids to vote on Election Day);
After doing my six-week high school senior project internship in the spring of 1980 at Oakland County Republican headquarters;
After making the maximum individual primary and general election donation to Dubya in 2004 (and getting interviewed in a local paper as one of the only UC employees to do so);
After voting straight Republican in every election for 30 years (1984 – 2014)…
It is impossible for me to imagine ever voting for another Republican again.
The QAnon Monster Raving Looney Trump Virus Party is a clear and present danger to the republic.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:27 amFor a little non-political entertainment, two amazing shots from the world of sports.
Fake Football: Danish defender makes an acrobatic bicycle kick that rebounds off the crossbar … right back to him, and a split second later, he makes a second acrobatic kick to put the ball in the net.
The only sport(*) more boring than Fake Football: On his 26th birthday, during a practice round for the Masters tournament, Spanish golfer Jon Rahm skips his tee shot on the 16th hole across a pond for an unbelievable hole-in-one.
(*) Auto racing is not a sport.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:49 amThings gotta breathe.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:22 amPS With special guest star Marianne Williamson, just for JVW.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:24 amARTICLE SMILEY FACE
IF AN ELECTION’S BALLOTS WEREN’T VIEWED, THE CANDIDATE COMPLAINING FIRST AUTOMATICALLY WINS UNLESS THE OTHER CANDIDATE HAS PLACED HIS HANDS ON A DESIGNATED “BASE” AT WHICH POINT THE LENGTH OF BIRTH CERTIFICATES SHALL BE COMPARED, THE LONGEST BEING DEEMED THE MOST NATURAL OF BORN CITIZENS.
Dustin (6ec957) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:43 amDana, we have 1/8 of the population of the country, and are 38th in total cases per 100K.
California has reported 2551 cases per 100K, while the rest of the country’s rate is 3362.
If the whole country had California’s rate of COVID deaths, almost 100,000 more Americans would still be alive today.
tldr; scoreboard
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:15 amFor thee, not me is everywhere.
Chicago mayor announced a lockdown, then immediately attended a political rally that broke all the rules.
Rules are just for little people dontcha know…
Hoi Polloi (66077a) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:32 amTrump will be gone soon and QAnon will shrink into nothingness. You will be left with far-left extremists and their arson and riots. What then?
Hoi Polloi (66077a) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:35 amI hope you’re right. If you are, I think the support for conservatives will grow. If your prediction of far left arson and riots comes true, we will see that in the mid-term election outcome. Remember, AOC’s candidates were also largely repudiated. Lincoln Project’s goal of ruining a bunch of republicans was not successful. Folks want to be safe, after all.
The best thing to do here is to remember that guys like Dave and me, guys like Whembly and RCOcean, we do pretty much want the same thing and are divided by issues of situational ethics around one particularly bad politician and his movement.
I know a lot of us are saying we can’t trust the GOP. But we know we can’t trust Team D either.
The sooner we get past the personalities the sooner we can make elections about issues.
Dustin (6ec957) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:48 amAnybody in the mood for a very topical Pink Floyd tune?
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:49 amObama followed Wâs lead
LOL. So Bush gave them the idea of leveraging the Logan Act during the transition?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-raised-logan-act-in-oval-office-discussion-about-flynn-peter-strzok-notes-show
Maybe Trump should follow that lead too.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/will-ben-rhodes-biden-get-the-mike-flynn-treatment
Just four years after the Obama administration authorized the secret surveillance of Michael Flynn for his communications with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak, Ben Rhodes has boasted that Joe Biden is already talking to foreign leaders while another president rules the White House.
“Foreign leaders are already having phone calls with Joe Biden, talking about the agenda they’re going to pursue on Jan. 20. If that reality hasn’t sunk in yet for some people in the White House, it will sink in when they have to leave on Jan. 20. And they’re going to be in for a rude awakening here.”
Stop the presses â isn’t Rhodes confessing that his (likely) future boss is committing the same supposed violation of the Logan Act that they claimed Flynn did, in order to justify further spying on the Trump campaign?
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:52 amEven Trump supporters would probably be willing to admit that thereâs a strong chance that Biden will be president. And if so, then it would only be good government to take steps to make that possible transition go smoothly.
If only we had a decent example to follow in the past ten years. Any suggestions?
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:57 amFlynn was a special case, BnP. Every patriot in the know had those concerns. Biden wasn’t hurting Trump. He was obviously helping him.
This is actually a good example of how important a smooth transition is. Obviously Obama and Bush didn’t agree on a lot of stuff, but Bush’s first year saw tremendous intel failures right after the worst transition in modern history. Think about the stakes. Think about what Russia’s doing near our borders today. Think about Iran. Shouldn’t Trump let Biden’s pros get started understanding what’s going on? That might mean many American lives.
Get past the personal aspect of this. The election is over.
Dustin (6ec957) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:02 am#13 Apparently Bush did a good job for Obama. If you have an example of Obama making things purposely difficult for the Trump transition team, do tell. I mean they did put together briefings regarding the threat of a global pandemic, but perhaps they should have made the briefings more entertaining?
Victor (4959fb) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:09 amWhen the job calls for howling lunacy, you hire … https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/14/giuliani-trump-legal-plans-436475
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:17 amhttps://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/11/13/biden-set-to-reverse-most-education-reforms-put-in-place-by-trump-devos-n1143020
With great harm done to our sons and daughters, grandsons and granddaughters.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:20 amSo if Trump is responsible for all the Covid-19 deaths so far, is Biden going to be responsible for all the Covid-19 deaths after the vaccine is approved and he sends it to other countries before giving it to our general public?
As to the election. I do believe there was fraud, on some level I believe there is fraud in every election. To say there was absolutely NO fraud whatsoever is ridiculous. It happened. To the degree that it would change the results? I don’t think so. What was on great display was a huge bureaucratic mess of great proportions in large Democrat run cities and counties. To have that degree of ineptitude is not acceptable and states need to do better on every level.
Despite all this Trump does have the right to contest and go through the courts. It will run it’s course as it did with Gore.
Yes. This has been way too much about Trump and not about policies. I see Biden policies as extremely damaging. Already I have had two family members receive notices of work cutbacks and layoffs due to the threat of the Paris Treaty and the attack on fossil fuels. The talk of a shut down has one family member in fear of losing their house as they will definitely be out of work. For all the talk of getting back in to the WHO’s good graces the Biden team ought to see that shut-downs hurt more than they help as noticed by the WHO and many other countries. Our family was impacted by a suicide due to the last shut down. I also shudder at the words of one of Bidens Covid advisors saying we would use “personal savings” to pay for Covid relief. This was from August but just as valid today as he still is advocating a lockdown, even more strict, Australian style.
We need a shutdown
I said several times on this site in the past year that we should watch because the government would find a way to take our 401k’s and savings…. looks like this guy wants to do just that. I can see an order that our savings would be replaced by worthless government bonds.
What I don’t get is how people don’t understand how lockdowns hurt the poorest of poor. Those who work labor jobs, those that can’t work from home. But the policy makers are able to work behind a computer in their living rooms and can’t relate to someone out doing physical labor for the most part. For a party that screams about white privilege they certainly don’t understand that being able to work from home is a privilege and not everyone has the ability to do that. AND not everyone wants to be supported by the government, they prefer to earn their own and make their own, on their own. I’d love to see one of these folks have a pipe break and have the plumber come fix it virtually. Then maybe it would sink in.
Marci (405d43) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:22 am“I proudly told my freshman class that
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:23 ammasks are oppressiveI’m a moron.”There, fixed that for Ms. Greene.
18,
To be clear about Dr. Osterholm, Biden’s advisor, talking lockdown:
Dana (6995e0) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:42 amThe problem with the Majorie Taylor Green-types in Congress, or in positions of power within the GOP, is that it will continue to tarnish the reputation of the GOP, which Trump has already done. It will also cause the Party to lose viability. As long as the Republican Party is tied to Trump in any way, the Party will remain weakened, and eventually become ineffectual, depending on the extent of the Q’anon-types in its leadership ranks. I think that our nation at large will be weakened without a robust, cohesive, and reasonable platform to represent right-leaning voters. Moreover, the Democratic Party needs to continually rub up against tough opposition. Not craziness. That just makes their job all the easier.
Dana (6995e0) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:47 amMoreover, the Democratic Party needs to continually rub up against tough opposition. Not craziness. That just makes their job all the easier.
Hey, are those windows still boarded up?
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:56 amFlynn was a special case, BnP.
So was Carter âRussian Assetâ Page.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:58 amIndeed!
Russian Spies Tried to Recruit Carter Page Before He Advised Trump
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:05 am@24: Amazing what metamorphosis happens when people are under oath, eh Dave?
Senator Lindsay Graham: (22:59)
If he knew then what you know now, would you have signed the warrant application in June of 2017 against Carter Page?
Andrew McCabe: (23:08)
No, sir.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (23:09)
Okay. Finally, who is responsible for ruining Mr. Carter Pageâs life? If itâs not you, if not Rosenstein, if itâs not Comey, if itâs not Sally Yates, whoâs responsible for putting together the information provided to the FISA court that was completely devoid of the truth, lacking material facts, completely represented what Mr. Page did and how he did it, who we look to for that responsibility?
Andrew McCabe: (23:50)
Well, sir, I donât agree with the way that youâve characterized the entirety of the-
Senator Lindsay Graham: (23:55)
Thatâs what the court said.
Andrew McCabe: (23:59)
I think as the IG pointed out in the conclusions of their report, that-
Senator Lindsay Graham: (24:10)
Everybodyâs responsible, but nobodyâs responsible?
Andrew McCabe: (24:12)
Sir, it would help if youâd allow me to finish my answer. I think it might be easier to understand. I think that we all are-
Senator Lindsay Graham: (24:17)
Okay. The question is whoâs responsible?
Andrew McCabe: (24:20)
And I think that we are all responsible for the work that went into that FISA. I am certainly responsible as a person in a leadership position with oversight over these matters. I accept that responsibility fully. I cannot-
Senator Lindsay Graham: (24:35)
Did you mislead the FISA court?
Andrew McCabe: (24:39)
I signed a package that included numerous factual errors or failed to include information that should have been brought to the court.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (24:49)
And what should be done? What should be done to you and others?
Andrew McCabe: (24:55)
Well, Senator, I think we are doing that with this process. I think our efforts should be focused on figuring out how these errors took place and ensuring that they donât happen again.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (25:07)
That starts with those who committed the problem being held accountable.
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/former-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-testimony-on-russia-probe-transcript/amp
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:13 amYou know we’re never going to be rid of Trump, right? As much as the media complains how much they hate him, what would they have to talk about if it weren’t for Trump? Biden is going to be soooo boring, he’s not going to be selling outrage. Long after Trump leaves office, every tweet he tweets is still going to be headline news. The media needs Trump, nothing and nobody can replace him.
And the idea that Trump is going to attempt to hang on to power after the votes are certified by the states is ludicrous, he’s a simpleton who couldn’t possibly pull off such a plan. Look at how easily the DoD tricked him into believing they were actually ending the war in Afghanistan and pulling down troops in Syria and elsewhere! Which is of course how it should be, if your boss gives you orders you don’t agree with, you should feel free to ignore him and disobey those orders, that’s how the Rule of Law operates. I for one can’t wait for Biden to order more troops into Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria, fully refund the Palestinians, put a stop to these peace agreements with Israel, end our energy independence so that we become more dependent on the Middle East for our oil and thereby justify our meddling there – there’s just so much money to be made selling arms to various terrorist groups and the governments they’re fighting, bombing the hell out of foreign countries and then letting contracts for re-building the countries we just got done bombing, plus all the foreign aid we can pay out in the form of bribes to get various groups to carry out contradictory objectives….so much money to be made selling war that that idiot Trump has just left on the table!
Jerryskids (999ce8) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:15 amThe next handful of sh*t being thrown on the wall of democracy, hoping for something to stick: Scytl, revealed by none other than that idiot Congressman from Texas, Louis Gohmert.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:16 amI think this one is even more relevant as we try to end this grim era of demonization, Mr. nk.
(But it has yours at the end too…)
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:29 amNo, just most of them since Memorial Day. Xi and Chinese Communist Party brought it here, but Trump mismanaged if from there. The US is now 8th worst on earth in cases per million and deaths per million, not counting countries with fewer than a million people.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:42 amNice crystal ball youâve got there. The evidence that Trump will be going away anytime soon is …?
So we need Trump to prevent the riots that happened while Trump was in charge?
We could get the police to stop murdering people in their custody. We could give protesters hope that their legitimate concerns are taken seriously, instead of retweeting âWhite Power!â videos and extolling the virtues of torch-carrying neo-nazis.
Iâll worry about what to do when the Republican Party ceases to be a Trump personality cult if and when it happens. Frankly I doubt Iâll live to see it.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:43 amI realize that the idea of a public official honestly acknowledging a mistake is inconceivable in TrumpWorld, but heâs talking about the last FISA warrant, not the first three.
And the IG found that all of them were adequately, if imperfectly, predicated.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:49 amThat Scytl story is next-level insane.
A Congressman is claiming that âa large US Army forceâ raided a data center in Frankfurt, Germany and seized computers that supposedly stole votes from Trump.
Apparently the only thing these people wonât believe is the truth…
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:16 amPardon Lori Laughlin!
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:27 amThe first claim concerning this alleged military operation on the sovereign territory of an ally was posted in the early morning hours of November 8, almost a week ago. And the rumor is only now seeping out of the fever swamps.
But Gateway Punditâs âintelligence sourceâ has confirmed it, so Iâm kinda nervous guys…
/sarc
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:30 amA Congressman is claiming that âa large US Army forceâ raided a data center in Frankfurt, Germany and seized computers that supposedly stole votes from Trump.
Laugh all you want, but nobody has accounted for Chuck Norris’s whereabouts during the period in question, have they?
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:35 amJVW,
Those conditions sound like the perfect petri-dish for Covid goo to spread. I don’t understand why masks are randomly used, and why there is no enforcement for them to be on at all times. Nor is it clear why there isn’t enough disinfectant/soap for body and clothes available. Frankly, although the writer of the piece opined that Loughlin would be traumatized long-term by the isolation she is facing, it sounds like being quarantined with a small number of inmates is better than being exposed to a larger number of inmates. Both for Covid reasons and just in general.
Dana (6995e0) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:36 amEven at 80, I’m sure Norris could kick some kraut ass on those data center nerds.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:45 amWhich has nothing to do with the point that, if the Republican Party doesn’t get its sh*t together soon, and remake itself into something to be taken seriously-that means extricating itself from all things Trump/Q’anon/general nuttery – then the job of the Democrats is made all the much easier.
Dana (6995e0) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:46 amThose conditions sound like the perfect petri-dish for Covid goo to spread.
I just find it funny how we’re emptying the prisons of drunk drivers, smash-and-grab thieves, and fiends who have committed fraud on the elderly because we are allegedly so worried about the spread in COVID among the incarcerated, but this Hollywood woman — who, and I can’t emphasize this enough, is far too attractive to have been prosecuted in the first place — has to sit in the COVID cell because she figured out a sneaky way to get her kid into USC.
Bill Clinton would have pardoned her yesterday. What the hell is President Trump waiting for?
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:48 amFrom another thread, but it belongs here. So “apologies” for a ‘double post.’
51 years ago this weekend [Saturday] NASA launch Apollo 12 with Pete Conrad, Al Bean and Dick Gordon aboard on Americaâs second mission to land men on the moon. Struck by lightning at launch, the crew managed a pinpoint lunar landing in the Ocean of Storms, a safe return to Earth and made a legend out of flight controller John Aaron.
Half a century or so later, by coincidence, this weekend as well [likely Sunday,] if the weather holds, SpaceX, in conjunction w/NASA, will launch the first âoperationalâ Dragon spacecraft, ferrying a crew of four astronautsâ three Americans and a Japaneseâ to the International Space Station for a six month stay. It will mark a milestone in low Earth orbit [LEO] commercial spaceflight operations for the United States â and for humankind. And it begins to fulfill one of the many rich prophecies made by Arthur C. Clarke 50 years ago.
In the epilogue to a book released in the summer of 1970, titled, âFirst on the Moon: A Voyage with Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Edwin E. Aldrin, Jr.,â the prescient Clarke predicted multiple paths to the future, now in the process of fulfillment; the business and industrialization of LEO space being one of them, noting:
âwhenever new territory has become available to mankind, it has sooner or later been developed, colonized, or otherwise exploited; there are no exceptions to this rule, if a sufficiently long time scale is adopted. From discovery to full exploitation, however may take anything from a century to several hundred thousand years.â
Half a century isnât too shabby a start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBnvkTsz4Sw
And yes, that’s The Big Dick himself attending the Saturn V launch– first time a U.S. president did so.
âFlight, EECOM. Try SCE to Aux.â â John Aaron 11/14/1969
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:49 amEven at 80, Iâm sure Norris could kick some kraut ass on those data center nerds.
If we start hearing reports in the German press of high-security steel doors which have been spin-kicked open, we’ll know that the reports are indeed true.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:49 amThis is a concern I have: will the U.S. choose to send a supply of vaccine to other nations before every American who wants the vaccine has the opportunity to get it? Will Americans be given sufficient supply before we generously offer to other countries?
Dana (6995e0) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:55 amI think this aptly describes the tension between protecting public health and the need keep the economy running (via people working). And yes, it does hurt the manual laborers more. Although, where I live, they are still working. Given that we are still seeing serious upticks in cases, the issue of transmission rates remains. If bars were closed, and Americans simply followed protocols of mask-wearing, social distancing, and hand-washing, I suspect the virus spread would decrease substantially. But following even the simplest health protocols are a bridge too far for too many Americans.
Dana (6995e0) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:05 amWe just had a “rigged election” that was simultaneously the most secure election ever, according to our president.
That’s genius-level thinking right there.
Radegunda (0a00f2) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:08 amSo we had four FISA warrants for Page…yet no crimes found, no indictment.
One could say that Page was exactly what we thought he was, a CIA source and not a Russian asset.
Of course, we still have the Pee Dossier from Christopher Steele that says otherwise…
Hoi Polloi (66077a) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:15 amMr. Clinesmith would be surprised to hear that.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:36 amThat damned FBI isn’t very good at railroading innocent people, is it?
Being a CIA source has little relevance to whether he was a Russian asset. CIA affiliates – including very high-ranking ones – have been recruited by them.
The initial impetus for investigating Page was not the Steele Dossier (which says he spoke and met with Russians who he did, in fact, speak and meet with). Crossfire Hurricane was launched in response to a report from a friendly foreign government’s diplomat:
In August, the FBI opened investigations in Papadopoulos, Page, Manafort and Flynn. No surveillance warrants against any of the four were initially sought. Six weeks later, based in part on information from Steele, they decided to request a warrant on Page, who was no longer affiliated with Trump’s campaign. They never requested warrants on the other three, who were still affiliated with Trump.
The delay in requesting surveillance on Page, and the decision not to surveil other Trump lackeys (who, if they were looking to gather compromising information on the campaign, would have been far more attractive targets), demonstrates that the FBI was acting in good faith and targeting their intrusive measures based on reasonable suspicion. If the FBI already had all relevant information, such that they could make decisions with perfect knowledge, they wouldn’t have needed warrants. FISA warrants are tools for gathering information about possible crimes, not sanctions for crimes already known to have taken place.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:41 amEmbrace the corruption!
Convicted perjurer and witness tamperer Roger Stone, who was pardoned by Trump a few months ago, is running Trump’s election-stealing disinformation campaign.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:48 amPresident-reject Trump waves to his cultists in Washington!
But there was ProtestWarrior style Resistance hooliganism, too, Comrades!
LOL.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:56 amIt will be interesting to see post Jan 20th, how the GOP organizes and what message it brings to the country? Who emerges as its leading voices and does Trump stay “active”? What will be the Party’s priorities….will it be more wall talk….more trade wars…..more Hunter Biden….or will we see something new…and more edifying?
AJ_Liberty (a4ff25) — 11/14/2020 @ 11:58 am@31: âI realize that the idea of a public official honestly acknowledging a mistake is inconceivable in TrumpWorldâ
âMistake.â LOL. âViva le resistance.â Oddly enough (h/t James Taranto), all those âmistakesâ cut in one direction. What are the odds!
âMistakeâ:
Senator Lindsay Graham: (17:45)
No, thatâs not my question. No. My question is why did the FBI not open up an investigation based on the CIA input? The CIA is telling the FBI that they have information that Hillary Clinton signed off a plan to deflect attention from her and put Trump in a bad light regarding Russia. That came in September 2016. You didnât know about it apparently. Can you explain to this committee and the American people why the FBI did nothing regarding that allegation?
Andrew McCabe: (18:16)
I cannot, sir, explained to you what Peter Strzok or anyone else thought about that at the time. But I can explain to you that the information in that memo-
Senator Lindsay Graham: (18:27)
I accept that you believe that Mr. Papadopoulos should be looked at. Iâm not arguing with you. I donât understand how you can tell ⌠how the FBI operated. Youâve got a tip from a Australian ambassador of the United Kingdom talking about a bar conversation with Mr. Papadopoulos about Russia hacking and that leads to two and a half years of turning the country upside down. Your own CIA informs the FBI in September that they have information that Hillary Clinton herself signed off on a plan to divert attention from her email problems to Trump by linking him to Russia for political purposes. And Mr. Strzok never told you about it. The FBI never opened up an investigation. They never hired one agent. That really is disturbing to a lot of us.
âMistakeâ:
Senator Lindsay Graham: (19:32)
Okay. Did you know at the time that the CIA had warned the FBI on numerous occasions to be careful using the dossier, it was internet rumor?
Andrew McCabe: (19:47)
I did not know that at the time and I donât know that now.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (19:50)
Okay. Well, we got a list of, letâs see, a list of CIA informs the FBI that Carter Page had been approved as an operational contact from 2008 to 2013. Did you know that the CIA had told the FBI that in August of 2017?
Andrew McCabe: (20:11)
No, sir.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (20:13)
The reason thatâs important that would explain what Mr. Page was actually talking to people he claimed to be talking with.
âMistakeâ:
Did you have a conversation with Mr. Orr about the reliability of Christopher Steele?
Andrew McCabe: (20:30)
I had a conversation in October of 2016, about with Mr. Orr about his interactions with Mr. Steele.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (20:43)
Did he tell you should be concerned and be careful?
Andrew McCabe: (20:47)
I donât remember him saying I should be concerned or be careful, no.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (20:51)
In the fall of 2016, this is his testimony to the committee. You put Mr. McCabe on notice. Hey, you need to watch this. You need to verify. I certainly gave him the same caveats, and the caveats were that Steele hated Trump. Yes, your concerns. Yes. What did he say when you told him that you were concerned about ⌠You need to be careful, for lack of a better term? I think he understood because he also worked on Russia criminal matters. So we have Mr. Orr under oath saying that he expressed concerns to you, Strzok, and others about the reliability of Mr. Steele. You donât remember that?
Andrew McCabe: (21:29)
Senator, I donât remember the specifics of our conversation. However, we were engaged in trying to determine and verify the statements in Mr. Steeleâs reporting at that time. So we were certainly concerned about those things.
âMistakeâ:
Senator Lindsay Graham: (21:44)
Were you aware of the subsource interview in January and March to the FBI?
Andrew McCabe: (21:51)
I was aware that an individual who our team thought of as one of the primary subsources had been identified and that they were interviewing-
Senator Lindsay Graham: (22:00)
Did they tell you about the substance of those interviews?
Andrew McCabe: (22:04)
Not in detail.
Senator Lindsay Graham: (22:06)
So, you didnât know that in January the subsource tells the FBI, he had no idea where some of the language attribute to him came from. His contacts never mentioned some of the information attributed to him. He said he did not know the origins of other information that was supposedly from his contacts. He did not recall other information attributed to him or his contacts. Still used incorrect source characterizations for the primary subsourceâs contacts. Still used incorrect source characterizations for the primary subsourceâs contacts. That in March he said he never expected Steele to put his statements in reports or present them as facts. The statements were word of mouth and hearsay conversations had with friends over beers or statements made in jest that should be taken with a grain of salt. Was any of that ever communicated to you?
Andrew McCabe: (22:57)
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 12:05 pmNo, sir, not that I can recall.
Obviously we needed a dirty trickster to snoop out all the dirty tricks the other side is doing — just as we needed someone with a history of trying to buy personal favors from politicians to clean up the system where rich people can buy favors from politicians.
Radegunda (0a00f2) — 11/14/2020 @ 12:05 pmThey also don’t see how insane many of their hero’s tweets and other public statements are.
Radegunda (0a00f2) — 11/14/2020 @ 12:15 pm@52: Unfortunately, youâll have to settle on one 2024 candidate. How long they align with your purity tests might be measured in days if not minutes. But, when actually winning elections is way down on the list of priorities, who cares.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 12:23 pmI don’t have any purity test. There has been only one GOP presidential candidate in my voting life whom I could not in good conscience vote for. There has been only one incumbent who is regarded as temperamentally, intellectually, ethically unfit by substantial numbers of people who have worked with him in the White House — some of whom have put their own personal safety at risk to say so.
My “test” is that the president not be a sociopath who views everything first and foremost through the lens of ego and self-interest and who frequently makes insane public statements, requiring his underlings to clarify that what he said is not really the operative policy, and who peddles conspiracy theories and blocks a smooth transition rather than admit that a clear majority of voters want him out.
Radegunda (0a00f2) — 11/14/2020 @ 12:54 pmBack in 2015-16, Trumpers were labeling nearly every other elected Republican or candidate a RINO, and saying that only Donald Trump could and would restore true constitutional conservatism. Only Donald Trump would be immune to corruption. Only Trump would act from the purest patriotic motives.
Now, everyone who isn’t 100% obeisant to Trump is a RINO — and/or is applying a silly “purity test” by asking for a modicum of integrity (and mental stability) rather than realizing that the only thing that matters is winning elections.
Radegunda (0a00f2) — 11/14/2020 @ 1:10 pmIt’ll all come down to Georgia. Who knew the Alamo was set in a red-clayed-peanut-field east of Plains.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 1:15 pmDismiss the dismissive; ignore 71-plus million American voters at your own risk.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 1:35 pmItâll all come down to Georgia. Who knew the Alamo was set in a red-clayed-peanut-field east of Plains.
Only 1 of 3 of Netflix’s southern dramas – Teenage Bounty Hunters (set in ATL), Outer Banks, and Sweet Magnolias (SC) accomplished their intended purpose.
urbanleftbehind (cd860e) — 11/14/2020 @ 1:43 pmRussian Media Is Angry and Desperate Over Biden Win
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Pro-Kremlin news anchors, pundits and experts have long dreaded former Vice President Joe Bidenâs victory in 2020, having described it as âthe worst scenario for Russia.â As their nightmare became an inevitable reality, Russian state television shows were permeated with angry faces and raw emotions.
âNothing will ever be the same… What are we witnessing? What is the world coming to? Not only this country, but the world?â mournfully asked Evgeny Popov, the host of Russian state media show 60 Minutes. Panelists in the studio grimly outlined the bevy of consequences Bidenâs presidency may mean for the Kremlin.
Lawmaker Leonid Kalashnikov, who admittedly celebrated Trumpâs victory in 2016, said: âUnfortunately, Trump lost.â Pontificating about what Bidenâs presidency will mean for Russia, Kalashnikov surmised: âUnderstandably, I have nothing to be happy about… All of us should be thinking: âWhat is Russia supposed to do now?â Get ready to be disconnected from SWIFT [international banking payment system]? That Europe will line up along with their sanctions?â He warned fellow Russians about the wave of incoming consequences: âTrump lost, so itâs time to get ready … They will start fighting against us like they do in the Middle East.â
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âThis whole time, weâve been living with an illusion that Trump is ours,â noted political scientist Ilya Graschenkov. Host Evgeny Popov corrected him: âTrump IS ours, but couldnât lift anti-Russian sanctions because of the legislation signed into law by Democrats.â Visibly irritated by the lack of deliverables from the Trump administration, combined with the surety of additional punitive measures anticipated from the incoming president, Popov exclaimed: âWe spit on them both!â
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In his interview with radio station Echo Moskvy, politician Vladimir Zhirinovskyâwho famously celebrated Trumpâs 2016 election by throwing a champagne party in Russiaâs parliamentâbitterly complained: âTrump didnât do anything good for us … In his election campaign, he promised to improve [relations], but in reality he did nothing, he didnât even come here. All U.S. presidents came to Russia and invited our president to their place in Washington, everyone except him. Donald Trump did not come to Moscow and never invited our president to Washington. Therefore, all we are left with are bad memories.â
Discussing U.S. elections on 60 Minutes, co-host Olga Skabeeva pointed out: âThe last time we interfered, but not this time around.â Writer Zakhar Prilepin noted that Trump should have been a better friend to Putin and Skabeeva enthusiastically agreed: âThen we would have saved him. Everything would have been fine.â
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……… Appearing on a radio show Soloviev Live, Margarita Simonyan, the editor-in-chief of state-funded propaganda networks, RT and Sputnik, disingenuously argued that the U.S. presidentâs unsubstantiated claims of election fraud should be taken at face value simply because of his unprecedented access to information no one else is privy to.
……. The Kremlinâs mouthpieces baselessly alleged that 11 million illegal immigrants, 1.5 million dead voters and an untold number of dogsâsupposedly registered to vote by their ownersâunlawfully voted for Biden…….
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 1:45 pm……..
……. Lawmaker Leonid Kalashnikov summed up the U.S. election debacle: âThatâs how you delegitimize a nation.â Discrediting the crown jewel of Western democracy has always been one of Russiaâs top prioritiesâand while he failed to come through on other fronts, Trump delivered a parting gift above and beyond the Kremlinâs wildest dreams.
>>>>>>>
Putin smiled.
The Trump admin is going out like it came in: lying about crowd sizes.
https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany/status/1327646530103369728
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 1:46 pm#57 The race came down to a gated community in Sandy Springs, where a group of ladies who decided over brunch that their bridge club group could abide a Democrat but could not abide Trump (who reminded them of that nasty boy at Westminster who almost raped Sylvia).
âHe just has no mannersâ.
If the race came down to Plains, GA, Trump would be having a COVID party, er, rally down at the fairgrounds in Perry to celebrate his landslide.
Appalled (529cb9) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:01 pm#58 And if the only way to humor the 71 million is to ignore the 76 million, things get a little scarier, donât you think?
Appalled (529cb9) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:05 pmI have a family member who is a prison guard in a medium security prison. The guards and staff all wear masks at all times. They request the inmates do but cannot force them to. Their “rights” and all can’t be infringed upon. Plus it is already tense with family visits being far and few between, if any at all, so enforcing a mask mandate puts guards and prisoners alike at risk of bodily harm from possible riots, which are known to happen in prison populations. Why aren’t they enforced? People like to live.
Marci (405d43) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:09 pmSecret intelligence exists that âwould cast Trump in very negative lightâ, warns ex-FBI chief
Former acting FBI director Andrew McCabe has warned that classified intelligence from bureauâs investigation into President Donald Trumpâs 2016 campaign ties to Russia could contain information that would ârisk casting the president in a very negative lightâ.
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âFrom your knowledge, is there anything that could come out that people would look at and say, âwow, I canât believe they ever included the president in this analysis, he and his people clearly did nothingâ?â asked Mr (CNN host Chris) Cuomo.
Mr McCabe replied: âThere is some very, very serious, very specific, undeniable intelligence that has not come out, that if it were released, would risk compromising our access to that sort of information in the future.
âI think it would also risk casting the president in a very negative light – so, would he have a motivation to release those things? Itâs almost incomprehensible to me that he would want that information out, I donât see how he spins it into his advantage, because quite frankly, I donât believe itâs flattering.
Asked if Mr McCabe thought there was more âbad stuffâ about Mr Trump that wasnât already publicly known, he replied: âThere is always more intelligence, there is a lot more in the intelligence community assessment than what is ever released for public consumption.
âThe original version of that report was classified at the absolute highest level I have ever seen. Weâre talking about top secret, compartmentalised code word stuff, and it would be tragic to American intelligence collection for those sources to be put at risk.â
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:16 pm……..
Marci,
According to the report JVW linked to, it is staff who donât consistently wear masks. That is what I was referencing in my comment.
While I certainly understand your point re inmates and their rights, itâs puzzling that staff donât consistently wear masks to protect themselves at least.
Dana (6995e0) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:27 pmDHS Admits It Likely Made False Statement to Federal Court When Justifying Chad Wolfâs Appointment
Attorneys at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) on Friday notified a federal judge that a previous claim relied upon to justify the controversial and likely unlawful appointment of Chad Wolf as Acting Secretary was not true.
Wolf took over the departmentâs top job after previous Acting Secretary Kevin McAleenan resigned in November 2019, but according to the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office (GAO), Wolf was not the correct official in the line of succession at DHS to assume the role. While Wolf and DHS have vehemently disputed that theory, in a lawsuit filed by several states challenging Wolfâs authority the department recently argued that the point is moot because Wolf was rightfully appointed to the position in September 2020.
The department claimed that after Wolf was officially nominated by President Donald Trump to serve as DHS Secretary on September 10, Peter Gaynor, the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), became the designated Acting DHS Secretary under the Federal Vacancy Reform Act (FVRA).
……..[A]fter Gaynor became Acting Secretary, he exercised his authority to designate a new order of succession under which Wolf, as the Senate-confirmed Under Secretary for Strategy, Policy, and Plans, would have immediately began serving as Acting DHS Secretary.
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DHS told the court on Friday, however, that Gaynor may have issued the latest succession order before President Trump officially submitted Wolf âs name to the Senate for consideration as DHS Secretary, calling the blunder an âinadvertent factual inaccuracy.â
âLate yesterday evening (Thursday, November 12, 2020), however, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) conveyed to the Department of Justice that it had learned that Mr. Gaynorâs September 10, 2020 succession order may have been signed approximately one hour before Mr. Wolfâs nomination was formally submitted to the Senate,â said the letter to U.S. District Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:31 pm……..
If true, that would mean that Gaynorâs order empowering Wolf was not valid, as Gaynor wasnât authorized to sign off on a new line of succession at DHS.
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U.S. President-elect Joe Biden will be briefed by national security experts next week, Biden transition official Jen Psaki said on Friday, amid concerns that being out of the loop due to delays to the transition could be a national security risk.
Seeing names of hacks and frauds like Jen Psaki recycled pretty much dashes whatever small hopes I had that the Biden Administration might be made up of a handful of credible people. Another long four years ahead of us, it would seem.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:55 pmIsnât there some kind of mercy rule we could invoke on behalf of Trumpâs lawyers at this point?
Trump Campaign Lawyer Comically Filed Election Lawsuit in Court That Had No Authority to Hear the Case
Even more true to form, they blamed PACER for filing the suit in the wrong court – as if the electronic document system decides for itself where to file:
Competent attorneys mocked the risible excuse:
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 2:59 pmhttps://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/11/13/trump-on-operation-warp-speed-5-times-faster-than-fastest-prior-vaccine-n1143822
In real news.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:03 pmItâs unclear what your beef is. She said:
She said they were looking for the form. She didnât make any false claim. Frankly, compared to the tsunami of lies weâve been inundated with for the last four years, a straightforward and honest answer looks pretty damn good to me.
The following day, she announced that they had determined they did not have the form.
So to summarize:
1) she acknowledged that the request about the form had not been addressed yet,
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:16 pm2) she said they were working on it, and
3) the following day, she resolved the question, insofar as the existence (or not) of the form on file was concerned
The Court of Claims is what litigates federal eminent domain. I told you Trump was going to try to get the White House by declaring it a TIFF and doing a Kelo. I told you.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:17 pm@63. No worry. The next two years come in no deposit, no return Bidens.
Keepyour eyes on Harris; betcha she’s picked her Cabinet already.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:19 pmItâs unclear what your beef is. She said:
The link actually goes to a listing all of the posts we have had where she is mentioned, and I submit to you that a perusal ought to convince you that there is ample reason to view her as a fraud and hack.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:22 pm@70-
Trump bragging (and taking questions) is not news. Itâs great that Pfizer was able to create their vaccine, but many questions remain. Pfizer stands to make a killing (as does its CEO, apparently) from the American taxpayer to produce the vaccine; it may be free to Americans to take, but Pfizer isnât doing anything for free.
Sounds like socialism to me.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:23 pmS-o-o-o … Pretty Woman Rule for Lori but not for Jan, eh, JVW?
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:23 pm@62. Aside- visited Plains, GA back in the day. Rural; quaint; quite boring. Very much like northwestern Ohio, except everybody had a funny accent. Spent five minutes trying to decipher what a ‘pinny’ was at a grits-serving Georgia,CSA, McDonald’s. In the USA, we call it a ‘penny.’ đ
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:25 pmAnd while weâre on the subject, JVW, why doesnât Jen get the cuteness exception afforded to Gabbard, Williamson, and Laughlin?
Your anti-Biden bias is showing…
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:27 pmDamn, nk beat me to it!
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:28 pmPost 75 should read:
Trump bragging (and not taking questions) ……
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:29 pmAnother long four years ahead of us, it would seem.
In more way than you realize, JVW; you watch; we’re gonna miss Melania boarding AF1. Jill’s caboose has that aging Amtrak sag.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:29 pmI had that the Biden Administration might be made up of a handful of credible people.
Everybody he knew in government as ‘credible’ is dead.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 3:37 pmPence, Met With Chants Of âFour More Years,â Replies: âThatâs The Planâ
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During a speech to the Council for National Policy, a conservative think tank, Pence was met with chants of âFour more years! Four more years! Four more years!â according to a transcript of the speech put out by the White House.
âThatâs the plan,â Pence responded, later stating in his remarks, âI promise you: We will keep fighting until every legal vote is counted, until every illegal vote is thrown out, and we will never stop fighting to make America great again.â
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:03 pm…….
Big Number: 7 9%. Thatâs the share of Americans in a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday who said Biden won the election, compared to just 3% who said Trump won and 13% who said the election has not been decided.
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Federal judge says new DACA rules are invalid
Chad Wolf was not legally serving as acting Homeland Security secretary when he signed rules limiting DACA applications and renewals, and those rules are now invalid, a federal judge ruled Saturday.
Wolf in July issued a memo saying that new applications for DACA, the Obama-era program that shields certain undocumented immigrants from deportation, would not be accepted and renewals would be limited to one year instead of two amid an ongoing review.
The Supreme Court blocked a Trump administration attempt to end the program and the memo sought to buy time while the administration decided its next steps.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:07 pm……..
OK, I read the first page worth.
There was a second (prior) piece about the Clinton exit form, asked on March 13, 2015. Psaki noted the question had been asked a long time ago, and she didnât have new information. March 13 was a Friday. The first piece, where she indicated she still couldnât answer was March 16, a Monday. And she announced that they had no exit form for Clinton the next day – Tuesday March 17. Where is the fraud and hackers?
There are two posts in which she defends the repatriation of Bowe Berdahl:
I get that you donât like the answer. Not seeing the fraud and hackery. In another, earlier statement (before Bergdahl was convicted of anything) she gave him the presumption of innocence. As a State Department spokesperson, the military circumstances of Bergdahlâs capture were not a topic for her to address anyway.
Then there is a statement asking Israel to do more to limit civilian casualties in Gaza. You disagree with the policy, but Psaki wasnât the one who made it, and there was nothing fraudulent in her announcement.
There is a breathless piece about Barack Obama having accumulated $375 in unpaid parking tickets (exactly half of megabillionaire Donald Trumpâs total income tax bill in 2016) while in law school (gasp!) that is downright quaint after what weâve lived through for the last four years.
And finally there is a quote in which she (honestly!) admitted that sensitive diplomatic negotiations are not always publicly acknowledged. Somebody didnât like her answer, and tried to conceal it. Her original answer was entirely reasonable. If she was involved in the ham-handed video editing and denials that followed, it doesnât reflect well on her. A Trump spokesperson likely would have simply attacked the reporter for asking the question, or brazenly lied, rather than answering it honestly.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:09 pmOl’Joe rode a bicycle today.
Just like 430 million Chinese.
…and Xi Jinping smiled.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:25 pmNah, Dave, Jan was always a guachinanga. Just better at it (with that approachable-girl-next-door-disingenuousness) than “alternate facts” Kellyanne and “l’yddle is a word, next question” Sarah. Kind of what Kayleigh could have been if she weren’t a blonde.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:27 pmMy body, my choice.
My fist, my choice. Same thing.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:27 pmAnd so it goes: it’s not what Biden will do; it’s what Trump has done.
Our Captain still commands from a bridge in your heads.
What. A. Showman.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:35 pmhttps://twitter.com/livesmattershow/status/1327740865545203717
This is what many Biden supporters wanted. I hope you enjoy it.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:54 pmhttps://www.theblaze.com/news/georgia-gop-chairman-why-did-mail-in-ballot-rejection-rate-drastically-drop-in-2020-when-a-million-more-were-cast-than-in-2018
When you’re not verifying anything, the answer is simple.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:58 pmWhen the ruler is lawless, the people are lawless.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:58 pmYou guys think Jen Psaki is cute? To each his own, I suppose.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 4:59 pmTrump is lying, per usual. As they say, presume everything he says is false until proven true.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:02 pmFor H1N1, the CDC started working on a vaccine in April 2009 and started distribution later that October.
Dave, evaluating every single Obama/Biden appointee’s level of honesty in context to someone in the Trump administration is kind of like evaluating UCLA’s football program in relation to UCI’s. Even in making that comparison, we can still come to the determination that UCLA’s team sucks.
JVW (ee64e4) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:03 pm@93. Agree. If ‘mammary’ serves…
“They’re called boobs, Ed.” – Erin Brockovich [Julia Roberts] ‘Erin Brockovich’ 2000
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:12 pmI wish they all could be California* girls, too, JVW, but what’re you gonna do?
*Nah, not really.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:14 pmA low income bracket amalgam of Christina Hendricks or Gillian Anderson, JVW – 93. Marie Harf would complete the Pajama Boy threesome.
urbanleftbehind (cd860e) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:16 pmThat didn’t take long. The Scytl conspiracy lasted a day, and then it died. Gohmert was left scrambling, saying, “Well shucks, folks, it was a German tweet in German, y’all can’t expect me to get sumthin’ like that right.” Or something like that.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:16 pmThis morning, I passed through nk-land on my way to the North and Kostner Menards for wood fence supplies.
urbanleftbehind (cd860e) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:18 pmMarie Harf
I was trying to remember the name of the other bookend. Thanks, urbanleftbehind!
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:19 pm@98. Anderson is just pouty; Hendricks has great… sass.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:24 pmEverybody anyone knew in government as âcredibleâ is dead.
FIFY. The Rapture is over and we are what’s left.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:55 pmThis is a plan of where Trump will be staying for the next few weeks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerbunker#/media/File:Reichskanzlei-Fuehrerbunker.svg
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/14/2020 @ 5:57 pmFederal judge says new DACA rules are invalid
This is just done so that Biden doesn’t run up against the Administrative Procedures Act himself.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:02 pmWhat happens to DACA if Congress votes down a law permitting the “Dreamers” to stay? The whole idea of these immigration orders, going back to Reagan’s amnesty, was that they were put in place in anticipation of imminent Congressional action. What if the action is neither imminent nor anticipated?
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:04 pmName one?
Dave (1bb933) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:14 pmThe ones doing the assaulting, anyway. Right little camp guards those guys.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:16 pm“The ones doing the assaulting, anyway. Right little camp guards those guys.”
Like this guy?
https://twitter.com/MattRod2991/status/1327771863544594432
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:26 pmLike this guy?
Whaddabout….
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:37 pm“WhaddaboutâŚ.”
I admire your shamelessness, bnp.
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:39 pmI like people who don’t get egged.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:39 pmIt is what it is. I voted for Biden, but I take no responsibility.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:40 pm#77. Never been to Plains (like most people living in ATL). Itâs not on the way to anything, and you can scratch your Jimmie Carter itch by going to his library.
SW Georgia has some nice towns with pretty confederate statues. NW Ohio has Toledo.
Appalled (529cb9) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:41 pmAnyway, I don’t know why I should believe that rigged and fraudulent video. Match the pixels!
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 6:42 pmThis is good news, that we killed an al Qaeda leader and that it happened in Tehran, a nice middle finger to the Mullahs.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:12 pmTrumpâs media favorites battle for the Trump trophy
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Parler, the âfree speechâ-friendly version of Twitter, saw a massive explosion of growth right after the election â only to be hit with a viral claim that the social media platform was owned by George Soros. QAnon supporters revolted against Newsmax, a conservative cable channel owned by Trump confidant Chris Ruddy, after the network used a photo of a man wearing a hoodie to describe a white nationalist. Nationalist blogs began running hit pieces on Fox News, claiming its viewership was down, and Trump, reportedly mulling his own media enterprise when he leaves the White House, claimed that its ratings had âcollapsed,â because âthey forgot the Golden Goose.â
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So the race is on to determine which outlet â cable, radio, internet or otherwise â will embrace Trumpism the tightest. And the competition is driving the far-right MAGA echo chamber to cannibalize itself.
At the center of it all is an impulse for confirmation bias, according to misinformation and extremist researchers. Trump supporters, they said, are looking for a place to migrate that promotes their theories on why their candidate lost. Thatâs why theyâve increasingly gravitated to places like One America News Network and Newsmax, two Trump-friendly conservative outlets that are more inclined to embrace the debunked ballot-fraud conspiracies Fox News will not touch. …….
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:19 pm………
……… Populist news sites like Big League Politics have attacked the organizers of Stop the Steal, a loose network of Trump-affiliated groups organizing mini-protests against the election results. MAGA influencers have razed conservative allies expressing slightly more realistic expectations.
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Without Trump in office â or even in public life â itâs more than likely that these disparate groups fragment back into their own separate zones online. White nationalists, after all, canât exist in the same movement as hardline pro-Israel activists. Anarcho-libertarians donât naturally fit with more extreme evangelicals. And QAnon supporters can hardly stomach anyone reporting any unfavorable news about Trump, even if itâs from Newsmax.
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Love burns eternally, Comrade Rip, but hate needs to be constantly stoked.
nk (1d9030) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:25 pmMore good news:
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:25 pm@118-
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:28 pmI agree. Itâs a popcorn moment to watch the alt-right cut themselves up.
NW Ohio has Toledo.
You can have it.
Lived in NW Ohio. Bet thing about Toledo is it has an airport.
To catch flights leaving Toledo.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:29 pmPlagiarist JoeyBee on China: “Come on, man â They can’t even figure out how to deal with the fact that they have this great division between the China Sea and the mountains in the West. They can’t figure out how theyâre going to deal with the corruption that exists within the system. Theyâre not bad folks, folks ⌠Theyâre not competition for us.” Idiot-elect, 5/2019
You bought him; you own him.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:41 pmhttps://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/justice-alito-tells-it-like-it-is.php
Well said.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 7:54 pmTrump says coronavirus vaccine won’t be delivered to New York right away
President Donald Trump said Friday that the U.S. government would not deliver a coronavirus vaccine to New York if and when one is available.
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âHe doesnât trust where the vaccine is coming from,â Trump added. âThese are coming from the greatest companies anywhere in the world, greatest labs in the world, but he doesnât trust the fact that itâs this White House, this administration, so we wonât be delivering it to New York until we have authorization to do so, and that pains me to say that.â
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……… and that pains me to say thatâ.
I donât think Trump will be around to make that decision given the time it takes to produce sufficient doses. But itâs clear Trump doesnât care.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:42 pmâWe have never before seen restrictions as severe, extensive and prolonged as those experienced for most of 2020,â he stated.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 8:46 pmYou mean like slavery, segregation, and the interment of American citizens of Japanese descent?
https://twitter.com/_xoxoxoxoxxoxo_/status/1327732154487463937
Here are the leftist brownshirts in all their glory.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:05 pm“Here are the leftist brownshirts in all their glory.”
See my post @109 for the whole video, rather than just the end.
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:06 pmRip, your post about vaccine delivery to NY is a deliberate lie stoked by the left. Trump made it clear he cannot deliver any vaccine to NY as long as their governor, and leftist hero, has made it clear he will not accept any such vaccine.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:07 pmThulu, the video starts at 44 seconds so clearly not the FULL VIDEO as you allege. It also shows 1 guy standing up to the leftist fascist mob and not intimidated by them. As he walks away, he gets sucker punched, stomped, and robbed.
So please, continue.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:10 pmLook forward to you supporting all evidence including all the names of everyone in the video involved going to the police. Right Davethulu?
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:11 pm“Thulu, the video starts at 44 seconds so clearly not the FULL VIDEO as you allege.”
I went to “Jorge Ventura Media” on twitter but could not find the the original. If you have more context, please feel free to provide it.
“It also shows 1 guy standing up to the leftist fascist mob and not intimidated by them. As he walks away, he gets sucker punched, stomped, and robbed.
So please, continue.”
It shows three guys assaulting the guy with the megaphone, who then find out they bit off more than they could chew.
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:20 pmDavethulu,
let’s make this real simple. Do you support all evidence, names of individuals involved and any witnesses to go to the police and file a report to let justice be determined?
Yes or no?
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:23 pm“Look forward to you supporting all evidence including all the names of everyone in the video involved going to the police. Right Davethulu?”
Guy who gets sucker punched kicked megaphone guy in the head first, so yeah, go for it.
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:23 pm“Do you support all evidence, names of individuals involved and any witnesses to go to the police and file a report to let justice be determined?”
Do you? Seems like you had your mind made up based on an incomplete video.
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:27 pmSounds like you’re equivocating thulu. I gladly support the rule of law and not the mob. I want every single person who took a swing, a push or a kick to be identified and justice dealt accordingly.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:29 pm“Sounds like youâre equivocating thulu. I gladly support the rule of law and not the mob. I want every single person who took a swing, a push or a kick to be identified and justice dealt accordingly.”
Cool. What part of my posts made you think I think otherwise?
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:29 pmThe part where you called the guy getting sucker punched in the face and knocked out “the end” when the video you posted shows others at least assisting the guy to bring him to the police and your claim that “they bit off more than they could chew” which implies you supported the actions of the mob.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:35 pm@128-
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:38 pmI just quoted Trump, unless you are denying he made the quoted statements. Iâm
“The part where you called the guy getting sucker punched in the face and knocked out âthe endâ when the video you posted shows others at least assisting the guy to bring him to the police and your claim that âthey bit off more than they could chewâ which implies you supported the actions of the mob.”
If nobody was seriously hurt, it’s unlikely anyone is going to be charged. I mean, sure, go to the cops, but they’re just going to see a bunch of idiots brawling and not do anything. Same as what happens with these brawls everywhere else.
Davethulhu (6e0d47) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:38 pmKnocked out, skull busted open (blood) and robbed, but no one seriously hurt.
I’d love to see the beginning of that video. I also hope there are more videos around. Let them all get arrested if they are deserving of such.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 9:40 pmNo RipMurdock. You didn’t quote Trump. At least not in good faith. Otherwise you would’ve quoted the following which was at your link
It’s the very first line. Curious that you ignored it since you love to copy/paste articles.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:00 pm@141-
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:24 pmSeveral other states have made similar comments but Trump singled out New York.
@141-
Usually the first line repeats the article title, which is why I edit it out.
But as I said, it wonât be Trumpâs decision. Distribution will be left to the Biden Administration. Maybe states that do nothing to deal with the pandemic (like the Dakotas)!will have their allocations held up until they take some action. But Biden wouldnât do that.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/14/2020 @ 10:31 pmDavid French:
Only Right-Wing Media Can Save America From Trumpâs Conspiracies
So basically, America is screwed.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 12:20 amWell, you know, Mr. French has to write things if he wants to get paid, Mr. Dave.
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 5:19 amFrom the files of He Is You, #987,654,321:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-ronald-reagans-coded-racism-paved-the-way-for-trump
urbanleftbehind (0978ff) — 11/15/2020 @ 5:25 amForgive me, comrades, if I do not click on either link.
The reason these guys want to be paperback writers but need to keep hacking away “at The Daily Mail” is easy to understand if you paid attention in senior high school English with Mr. Perschbacher at Lane Tech like I did.
A drama requires conflict and resolution. These guys know how to make up a conflict but fall flat on their faces when it comes to the resolution. Dead end. No exit. No turns. No backing up.
The ancient Greeks like Sophocles, and Aeschylus, and Euripides faced the same problem but they could get the gods to come down and write the second half of the story for them (and for some strange reason gave it a Latin name, deus ex machina).
As time went on, better writers who could be paperback writers if they wanted to, thought it better to let the people in the story work out the resolution instead of bothering the gods all the time.
But some writers just gave up and said, “The hack with it, either the gods comes down or you’re just going to get the conflict without a resolution and learn to like it”.
And that’s the way it is on this, the twelfth day, of “A New Hope” or “America Awakens”.
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 6:02 amCalifornia dinner:
House dinner:
And the guidance, of course, takes account of what the politicians in charge want to do.
What little people want to do, especially people not too likely to vote Democratic, not so much. Their activities can be foregone. It is not necessary.
Sammy Finkelman (bda33a) — 11/15/2020 @ 6:40 amhow did trying to thwart the oracle work out for king laius mr nk?
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 6:47 amRE: Pandemic spike:
Nothing is going to help, except injecting people at risk, who haven’t tested positive with low doses of Regeneron or Eli Lilly antibodies (people who test positive should get more.)
And nothing is going to make that happen, except an Act of Congress overruling the FDA, the way the Alaska Pipeline bill overruled the EPA, or momentum building to pass it, in which case, like the Supreme Court sometimes, they may, so to speak, follow the election returns, like it did in 1937.
But Trump is too cowed and uncertain of himself to get the ball rolling. It is not enough even to make the antibodies available, which has happened already, actually, in fact, with Eli Lilly (does this give the FDA an excuse to delay emergency authorization for Regeneron, which is what cured Donald Trump?) they’ve got to be used off label as a prophylactic. And we can make a pretty good about how much is needed.
Everybody is still focused on vaccines, which effect things with a lag of at least two months, and won’t provide an all clear till, at best, late next summer.
Sammy Finkelman (bda33a) — 11/15/2020 @ 6:55 am124. Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) â 11/14/2020 @ 8:42 pm
He probably discussed that with his coronavirus task force, and they approved.
Because there’s no point in delivering a vaccine if it is not going to be used. Especially while supplies are short.
But if he cared, he’d be making plans (unlikely as it is that they will be carried out) to bypass the Governor of New York State.
Sammy Finkelman (bda33a) — 11/15/2020 @ 6:59 amNot well, Mr. Dave, but then we might not have had an explanation for Trump, either, if it had.
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 7:01 amFrench has it right. The GOP is stuck with a Right-wing media that has been thoroughly compromised. A healthy ecosystem would not only have been wary of Trump in 2016, it would have cultivated a healthy set of competing voices that could have seriously challenged Trump for the nomination in 2020. Instead, the “talkers” and “news analysts” enabled Trump, providing a robust defense of much of his nonsense….in exchange for ratings and back channel influence. We have raging conspiracies today because there are few journalistic standards applied to “talk” or “analysis”. It’s just talk, right? We’ve legitimized National Enquirer-level gossip….and no one has a big enough platform to yank the chain on it. Much of Right-wing media is about keeping listeners maximally angry and fearful and knowing who to blame. It’s this fever factory that incubated Trump and which is desperately trying to keep the Trump show going. So until the incentives change, I don’t see the masses wanting a return to normalcy…..and a dysfunctional Right….coupled with a Progressive-leaning Left….is bad for this country.
AJ_Liberty (a4ff25) — 11/15/2020 @ 7:14 amSammy @148. And that’s what Justice Alito was talking about as referenced in NJRobb’s Comment 123. Politicians whimsically making it up as they go along, careful not to inconvenience themselves or endanger their phony-baloney jobs too much.
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 7:19 amWord for the day:
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 7:27 amre¡bar¡ba¡tive
/rÉËbärbÉdiv/
adjectiveFORMAL
unattractive and objectionable.
“rebarbative modern buildings”
He probably discussed that with his coronavirus task force, and they approved.
Trump reportedly hasnât met with the CV task force in months, only Pence.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 8:03 amThe Dakotas are ‘as bad as it gets anywhere in the world’ for COVID-19
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Both North and South Dakota now face a predictably tragic reality that health experts tell USA TODAY could have been largely prevented with earlier public health actions.
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North Dakota’s COVID-19 death rates per capita in the past week are similar to the hardest hit countries in the world right now â Belgium, Czech Republic and Slovenia â according to Saturday New York Times data. That data also places South Dakota’s recent per capita deaths among the world’s highest rates.
And there’s currently nowhere in the U.S. where COVID-19 deaths are more common than in the Dakotas, according to data published by The COVID Tracking Project.
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……..[A] a number of factors that have made both North and South Dakota vulnerable to the virus’ spread………higher rates of preexisting conditions and economic inequality in the region, in addition to health care that lags behind the U.S. standard.
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[Dr. William Haseltine], president of ACCESS Health International ……. blamed politicians â especially South Dakota Republican Gov. Kristi Noem â for ignoring public health measures that have been successfully used to curb the spread of the virus elsewhere in the world.
Noem has cast doubt on whether wearing masks in public is effective, saying that sheâll leave it up to the people to decide. She has said the virus canât be stopped.
[North Dakota Gov. Doug] Burgum, also a Republican, had pleaded with people to wear masks and praised local towns and cities that have mandated masks. He had avoided requiring masks and refused to enforce limits on social gatherings and business occupancies until late Friday.
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Noem and Burgum have touted ideals of limited government, with Noem continuing to express concern about how decisive state action could be an example of a government overreach.
But Haseltine framed public health actions another way: Not enacting them is like standing in the way of an ambulance â the ambulance being proven health measures like mask mandates and social gathering restrictions. Even worse, encouraging large scale events in a pandemic as South Dakota has done is equivalent to manslaughter, Haseltine said.
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The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation’s influential model predicts daily deaths in North and South Dakota will peak, then decrease in coming weeks, but total deaths will more than double by March 1.
In two states with less than 2 million people between them, more than 3,000 are expected to die of COVID-19 by then.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 8:17 am……..
Republican convicted of election fraud helps lead Trump rally baselessly claiming election fraud
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The Lansing [MI] rally of a few hundred people Saturday came after a similar gathering last Saturday and small protests during the week.
One of the speakers is blogger and GOP activist Brandon Hall, who says heâs running for Michigan Republican Party chair. That position is currently held by former state Rep. Laura Cox (R-Livonia), who Trump announced at a pre-election rally in Grand Rapids would âbe firedâ if he lost the state, which he did. Cox has continued to defend the president and make unfounded claims of voter fraud after the election.
âWeâre not going to give over our electoral votes to Joe Biden without a fight,â Hall said, as reported by the Lansing State Journal.
What Hall didnât mention, and neither did the story, is that he has firsthand experience with election fraud. In 2013, Hall was charged with 10 counts of election law forgery, which is a felony. In December 2016, Hall was sentenced to 30 days in jail and 18 months probation for election fraud, the Grand Haven Tribune, FOX-17 and MLive reported.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 8:26 am……..
South Dakotaâs failed Swedish-style COVID experiment
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 8:44 am@152
mourning becomes ivanka mr nk
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 8:56 amComrades, I wish to make on thing perfectly clear. I by no means maintain that Trump is the only person in politics who sucks.
It has never been my intention to imply that other politicians are not weak-kneed, political time-servers who are concerned more with their personal vendettas and private power struggles than the problems of government.
Nor to suggest at any point that most of them do not sacrifice their credibility by denying free debate on vital matters in the mistaken impression that party unity comes before the well-being of the people they supposedly represent.
Nor to imply at any stage that they are not squabbling little toadies without an ounce of concern for the vital social problems of today.
Nor indeed that I do not consider them as crabby ulcerous little self-seeking vermin with furry legs and an excessive addiction to alcohol and certain explicit sexual practices which some people might find offensive.
I am sorry if I have ever given this impression.
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:00 amI think you’re saying you like plagiarism is what I think
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:06 amThe Lincoln Project calls on Republicans to respect democracy.
âIf a president wasnât elected legally, then no one was elected elected legally.â
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:07 amnk @147.
This is a modern post-Renaissance term. The Greeks didn’t give it that name. They called it áźĎὸ ΟΡĎινáżĎ θξĎĎ (apò mÄkhanĂŞs theĂłs) or theos ek mÄkhanÄs, âgod from the machinery.’ Based upon the fact that actors playing gods were suspended above the stage, brought onto stage using a crane (The Greek word means a method or an expedient – because I guess the exact device varied and sometimes they came from below.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina
Shakespeare used it in a couple of his less known plays like As You Like It and Pericles
The term includes rescues in any number of ways, like Oliver Twist discovering someone is his aunt, or bacteria killing Martians or the children in Lord of the Flies being discovered by a passing navy officer, or the eagles in J. R. R. Tolkien’s books.
Sammy Finkelman (bda33a) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:10 amits a valid lifestyle
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:16 amchoiceorientation mr dustinIt’s not plagiarism to quote the classics.
And you may quote me on that.
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:19 amVentilation (dilution) actually is very important.
It’s why relatively few infections were traced to subways, but taxis and Ubers can be dangerous. Some crowded public outdoor events might have poor air circulation. and you could breathe in what the previous passenger exhaled or maybe coughed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/nyregion/nyc-subway-coronavirus-safety.html
Sammy Finkelman (bda33a) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:42 amOne of my former Japanese colleagues, who won the Nobel Prize in 2002, has passed away:
Masatoshi Koshiba, scientist who shared 2002 Nobel Prize in physics, dies at 94
He was the first to show that âsolarâ neutrinos actually come from the Sun (previous experiments could not detect the direction of the neutrinos, so the evidence for their origin was only circumstantial) and the first to detect them in âreal timeâ.
When I was in graduate school, Koshibaâs experiment in Japan was our competition. They used the technology we pioneered, but their experiment had only 1/4 of the sensitive target mass of ours. They made up for that by having 20 times the light collection, allowing them to see very low-energy solar neutrino interactions that we could not.
After some upgrades to my experiment, we both detected the pulse of neutrinos from a supernova in 1987. My first major talk at an international conference (in Hamburg in 1987) was on this discovery; I was still a graduate student, and Koshibaâs talk was right before mine.
He was an outwardly genial, but imposing figure. When we joined the second-generation Japanese experiment a decade later, he was mostly retired, but still held in awe even by very senior Japanese colleagues.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:44 amSammy @164. ÎΡĎινΎ *(mechane, machine) includes the abstract as well as the concrete meaning of “device”, so don’t preclude the connotation that the author devised having the gods step in, as well as the stage manager devising a crane to lower them to the stage.
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:47 amThat’s an amazing story, Dave. 94 and a Nobel Prize is not a bad run.
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/15/2020 @ 10:25 amRebarbative administration.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/15/2020 @ 10:25 amBTW, the overhead crowd shot looks like 10s of thousands attended, not just 10,000.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 11/15/2020 @ 10:30 amPentagon senior adviser accused Pompeo and senior politicians of taking money and getting rich from ‘the Israeli lobby’
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Retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor, who was appointed as senior adviser to newly installed acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller this week, made the comments in two media appearances in 2012 and 2019.
“You have to look at the people that donate to those individuals,” Macgregor said in a September 2019 interview when asked if then-national security adviser John Bolton and Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham wanted war with Iran. “Mr. Bolton has become very, very rich and is in the position he’s in because of his unconditional support for the Israeli lobby. He is their man on the ground, in the White House.”
“The same thing is largely true for Mr. Pompeo, he has aspirations to be president,” he added. “He has his hands out for money from the Israeli lobby, the Saudis and others.”
…… Macgregor also said the Israel lobby has “enormous influence” on Congress and accused the lobby of wanting to instigate “military strikes” with Iran in a 2012 interview with the Russian-state media network RT.
â I think the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and it’s subordinate elements or affiliated elements that represent enormous quantities of money that over many years have cultivated an enormous influence in power in Congress,” he said. “I think you’ve got a lot of people on the Hill who fall into two categories. One category that is interested in money and wants to be reelected, and they don’t want to run the risk of the various lobbies that are pushing military action against Iran to contribute money to their opponents.”
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Bolton, through a spokesman, said, “I don’t respond to anti-Semites.” The State Department declined to comment on behalf of Pompeo.
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Macgregor was nominated to become the US ambassador to Germany this summer, but his nomination stalled in the Senate Foreign Relations committee after CNN’s KFile reported he disparaged immigrants and refugees, called for martial law and lethal force at the US-Mexico border, and attacked Germany’s military power and culture.
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Several Jewish advocacy groups came out against Macgregor’s ambassador nomination after it came to light that he dismissed German remembrance of the Holocaust and downplayed the country’s Nazi history.
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……[H]e said that US involvement in World War II was a “disaster,” and incorrectly said there was no desire in the US to go to war with Nazi Germany. In 2012, he claimed there was evidence that conflict with Japan was engineered to end the Great Depression.
“People were not terribly happy about having to fight the second [war]. There was certainly no support for fighting the Germans during the Second World War. There was obviously for fighting the Japanese because Japan made the serious mistake of attacking us, but there was, there was great reluctance to be involved in these wars,” Macgregor said.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 11:25 am……..
He must have heard the same WW II lecture as Tuberville.
Why Trump Carried Out His Pentagon Purge
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An Administration official who sees the outgoing President regularly told me that Trump is determined to bring home all forty-five hundred U.S. troops that remain in Afghanistanâor at least as many as possible before he leaves office. âHe wants to put us on an irreversible course to a total withdrawal,â the official said.
Getting out of Afghanistan was, the official said, one of the primary motivations behind Trumpâs decision to fire Mark Esper, his Secretary of Defense, earlier this week. Since Trumpâs election, in 2016, he has promised to end the countryâs military involvement in Afghanistan, where American troops have been engaged since 2001. Trump has reduced the size of the force thereâfrom about ten thousand troops when he took officeâand he announced as recently as last month that all American forces would be coming home by Christmas. But he has not achieved a total withdrawal, which he has blamed on his Defense Secretariesâprincipally Esper and his predecessor, James Mattis. Trump âfelt like he has been slow-walked ever since he came into office,â the Administration official said. âNow with Esper gone, he can do it.â
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 11:37 am…….
The situation in Afghanistan is tenuous. In February, American and Taliban diplomats signed an agreement, by which the United States would withdraw all of its forces once security conditions in Afghanistan were stable. But Trump has been reducing the number of U.S. troops even though the conditions have not yet been met. American officials say that the President has been undercutting his own negotiators and emboldening the Taliban. âThe trouble with the Taliban is, they are getting everything for free now,â an American official told me.
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A complete pullout would have serious consequences. Most diplomats and military commanders agree that, without continued American financial and military support, Afghanistanâs government and armed forces would eventually collapse. The American official said, âI hope the President realizes that if we leave, the debate will become âWho lost Afghanistan?â â
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A question Trump can answer in 2024.
Conservative Treehouse announced today that WordPress has deplatformed them and given then till the beginning of next month to find a new location.
I know I know. They supported President Trump so they deserve what they get.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/15/2020 @ 12:29 pm174. A second possible reason is an American sponsored Israeli attack or a joint attack, on Iran’s nuclear facilities in advance of Biden re-establishing or attempting to re-establish the Iran nuclear agreement.
Sammy Finkelman (bda33a) — 11/15/2020 @ 1:01 pm@176-
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 1:09 pmI doubt that. It would go against Trumpâs desire to withdraw from the Middle East. If anything, it should be a joint Israel/Saudi operation, as Iran is a direct to them and not the US.
Trump Allies Explored Buyout of Newsmax TV as Fox News Alternative
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Hicks Equity Partners, a private-equity firm with ties to a co-chair of the Republican National Committee, has held talks in recent months about acquiring and investing in Newsmax, according to people familiar with the matter, part of a larger effort that could also include a streaming-video service.
Newsmaxâs viewership has risen sharply since Election Day, as it wins over viewers loyal to Mr. Trump who are frustrated that Fox News and other networks have declared Democrat Joe Biden the president-elect. Newsmax hosts have promoted Mr. Trumpâs claims that the election was stolen. No evidence of significant fraud has emerged or been presented.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 1:18 pm……
…… Newsmaxâs average prime-time audience jumped 156% to 223,000 viewers during the week of the election, according to Nielsen data, and last Thursday crossed one million from 7 p.m. to 8 p.m., about half of Foxâs audience during the time period. Sustaining those gains when interest in the election subsides wonât be easy. Fox averaged nearly six million prime-time viewers during the week of the election, about 22% higher than the previous four weeks.
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In an interview, Newsmax Media Chief Executive Chris Ruddy said he has had many discussions with interested parties over the years looking to buy or invest in Newsmax. âNewsmax never had any deal with the Hicks group, and if itâs true they were using our name for the purposes of capital fundraising, that is wholly inappropriate,â he said.
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If Mr. Trump wanted to create his own media business from scratch, the most likely avenue would be a subscription streaming service, some industry executives said, and he could likely create a viable business, though perhaps not one with the scale of a TV network. âI think for someone like Trump itâs an easy million,â said Chris Balfe, a partner at the digital media consulting firm Red Seat Ventures, referring to the number of subscribers Mr. Trump could launch with. Typical industry prices for such services can run from roughly $6 to $10 a month.
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…… The Wall Street Journal reported early this year that Hicks Equity Partners was seeking a buyout of San Diego-based One America News Network, also known as OANN. Those talks have cooled in recent months, some of the people familiar with the matter said, though Hicks Equity still considers it a compelling target.
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Conservative Treehouse announced today that WordPress has deplatformed them and given then till the beginning of next month to find a new location.
I know I know. They supported President Trump so they deserve what they get.
We should boycott all websites hosted on WordPress.
Oh, wait.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 1:27 pmI notice that Conservative Treehouse does not post the full text of the notice.
They claim no explanation was given, but the part they omitted likely contains it.
The terms of service do not appear to prohibit falsehoods.
It does prohibit posting personal information, and calls for violence.
If they posted material from Hunter Biden’s laptop that was published by the NY Post, it contained unredacted personal information and would likely have violated that rule.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 1:32 pmDid they just recently move to WordPress? Was their Trump-support unknown until now?
Radegunda (20775b) — 11/15/2020 @ 1:44 pmIf the answer to both is no, chances are very high that WordPress’s decision was based on something other than CT’s support of Trump.
Difficult to give too much credence to the claims of a site filled with discredited and brazen falsehoods from top to bottom.
If the account of their “deplatforming” is truthful, it looks to be the only thing on their homepage that is.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 1:50 pmIt does prohibit posting personal information, and calls for violence.
If they posted material from Hunter Bidenâs laptop that was published by the NY Post, it contained unredacted personal information and would likely have violated that rule.
LOL
Now do Antifa and Trumpâs tax returns.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/15/2020 @ 2:32 pm@166. “All men and women created by â you know, you know, the thing.” – Idiot Plagiarist Elect
A classic.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/15/2020 @ 2:43 pmDave — good story about the neutrino.
I friend of mine likes to ask: Would it be more gratifying to be a scientist who discovers a previously unknown truth about the universe, or a composer who creates great musical works. He comes down on the composer side, because someone else would eventually have made the same scientific discovery, whereas no one but Gustav Mahler, e.g., could possibly have written a Mahler symphony.
Radegunda (20775b) — 11/15/2020 @ 2:50 pmOTOH, some people will never agree that the Mahler symphonies are actually great, and their subjective judgment is not wholly irrelevant to the question.
157, 159.
… and just in case Gryph is reading, here’s a revealing thread from a South Dakota ER nurse.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 11/15/2020 @ 3:53 pmSo tedious.
If I wasn’t certain that no one would voluntarily beclown themselves so transparently, I’d swear you just criticized someone for whatabouting in this very thread. That’s unpossible, right?
lurker (d8c5bc) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:05 pmMinnesota Senate GOP held large, in-person dinner party just before COVID outbreak
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A GOP spokeswoman confirmed the Nov. 5 victory dinner party this weekend in response to FOX 9âs questions about it. Republicans had not previously disclosed it, even as controversy erupted over the outbreak. The spokeswoman, Rachel Aplikowski, did not say why she had not disclosed the party in earlier public statements about the situation.
At least three senators, including Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka, have now tested positive. Gazelka revealed his positive diagnosis on Sunday and said he was quarantining while on an out-of-state trip. Sen. Dave Senjem told FOX 9 he had tested positive last weekend. Sen. Paul Anderson has also tested positive, Aplikowski said.
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But Democrats said the GOP never notified them about the COVID-19 outbreak before Thursdayâs special session at the Capitol. Senate Democratic Leader Susan Kent said it was a âblatant disregardâ of the health of other senators and Senate staff.
The GOPâs Nov. 5 dinner party was held at a Twin Cities event center with between 100 and 150 attendees, including most Republican senators, a source told FOX 9 on the condition of anonymity.
In response to FOX 9âs questions, Aplikowski did not dispute the personâs account of the event. She did not say how many senators who attended the party then attended the special session in person seven days later, but said no one who tested positive went to the special session.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:12 pm…….
Sunday morning, Minnesota health officials reported 7,559 new cases of COVID-19 and 31 more deaths. So far, the state has seen a total of 223,581 cases and 2,905 deaths.
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The case for the Oxford comma just refuses to stop rearing its ugly head.
lurker (d8c5bc) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:20 pmTrump Family Business Faces Post-Election Reckoning
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Trump Organization executives say a key focus will be growing the brand globally once Mr. Trump leaves office. Yet those plans will face hurdles. In Chinaâa market long eyed by Mr. Trumpâthe president has become deeply distrusted after his trade war damaged U.S.-China relations. In Europe, some of the Trump trademarks have been eliminated by legal challenges.
The Trump Organization might soon slim down. Several properties are for sale, including its Washington hotel and two skyscrapers in New York and San Francisco that are part-owned by the Trump Organization. The organization also has been considering selling its Seven Springs estate outside of New York City, The Wall Street Journal previously reported.
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Additionally, the pandemic has hurt business at Trump hotels and resorts, and the financial benefits some get from Mr. Trump being in the White House could decline.
Trump Organization executives say its businesses are healthy. âThe Trump Organization is an incredible company with tremendous cash flow. We have never been stronger,â the company said.
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Since Mr. Trump launched his run for the presidency in 2015, his businesses have become closely linked with the GOP. Republican spending at Trump properties has topped $23 million since 2015 compared with less than $200,000 in the five years prior, according to an analysis of Federal Election Commission data by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.
Those revenues will likely decline, including $37,000 of monthly rent payments the Trump campaign has made to Trump Tower in New York. The office tower, where the Trump Organization is based, has suffered from falling occupancy rates since Mr. Trump took office, the Journal previously reported.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:20 pm……..
Biden won places that are thriving. Trump won ones that are hurting.
Rip Murdock (bd1cdd) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:25 pm…….
The parts of America that have seen strong job, population and economic growth in the past four years voted for Joe Biden, economic researchers found. In contrast, President Trump garnered his highest vote shares in counties that had some of the most sluggish job, population and economic growth during his term.
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Liftoff! Congrats to Crew-1, NASA and SpaceX on a nominal launch.
Ad Astra!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:28 pmArizona just won a football game on CBS. I started watching when there were 34 seconds to go and the score was 3-36 against them.
Sammy Finkelman (bda33a) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:30 pmIf you like your virus, you can keep your virus!
Dave (1bb933) — 11/15/2020 @ 4:49 pmLOL. (Scroll to the first reply.)
lurker (d8c5bc) — 11/15/2020 @ 5:27 pmBreaking-Trump campaign jettisons major parts of its legal challenge against Pennsylvaniaâs election results
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Trumpâs attorneys filed a revised version of the lawsuit, removing allegations that election officials violated the Trump campaignâs constitutional rights by limiting the ability of their observers to watch votes being counted.
Trump and Rudolph W. Giuliani, his personal attorney, have said repeatedly that more than 600,000 votes in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh should be invalidated because of this issue.
Trumpâs pared-down lawsuit now focuses on allegations that Republicans were illegally disadvantaged because some Democratic-leaning counties allowed voters to fix errors on their mail ballots. Counties have said this affected only a small number of votes.
Cliff Levine, an attorney representing the Democratic Party in the case, said on Sunday evening that Trumpâs move meant his lawsuit could not possibly change the result.
âNow youâre only talking about a handful of ballots,â said Levine. âThey would have absolutely no impact on the total count or on Joe Bidenâs win over Donald Trump.â
Rip Murdock (3c07f4) — 11/15/2020 @ 5:34 pm………
The partyâs over.
Trump coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas urges Michigan to ‘rise up’ against new Covid-19 measures
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“The only way this stops is if people rise up,” Atlas said. “You get what you accept. #FreedomMatters #StepUp”
His message — which runs counter to the consensus of public health officials — is likely to fuel new tension between the White House and Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, whom federal and state officials announced last month was the target of an alleged domestic terrorism kidnapping plot.
Responding to Atlas’ tweet Sunday evening, Whitmer told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, “We know that the White House likes to single us out here in Michigan, me out in particular. I’m not going to be bullied into not following reputable scientists and medical professionals.”
Rip Murdock (3c07f4) — 11/15/2020 @ 6:40 pm…….
Throughout the pandemic, Whitmer has been the focus of extreme vitriol from far-right groups. The alleged scheme to kidnap her included plans to overthrow several state governments that the suspects “believe are violating the US Constitution,” according to a federal criminal complaint.
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Because calling for the people to ârise upâ against the Governor worked so well last time. Next time extremists wonât conspire to kidnap Whitmer, they will go âlone wolf.â
Trump golf count. To date:
nk (1d9030) — 11/15/2020 @ 6:52 pm287 outings (There are only 208 weeks in four years.)
$142,000,000 ($142 million) cost to taxpayers.
Some years ago I collected examples of sentences in which the Oxford comma actually increased ambiguity about what is linked and what is separate. So I’ve come down squarely on the fence.
Radegunda (20775b) — 11/15/2020 @ 8:37 pm199. I’d love to see it. (The collection, not the fence).
lurker (d8c5bc) — 11/15/2020 @ 9:00 pmOne absurd thing: British Prime Minister Boris Johnson went into quarantine because he;d been exposed to someone who tested positive.
But he recovered earlier this year from a severe case of Covid, without artificial antibodies!
What’s going on is they refuse to accept, what’s known in every other disease, that he has immunity, and even if you want to say a mild, probably asymptomatic, case can flare up, there’s too much doubt. Doubt piled upon doubt that he could ever infect anyone.
These same people will believe is a vaccine, when it’s a known fact that a vaccine generally confers less immunity than an infection (although some of the vaccines on tap for Covid try very hard to create high levels of immunity)
Sammy Finkelman (f6c6ee) — 11/16/2020 @ 3:39 amI’m no expert, but I’m guessing the vaccine will try to give immunity to multiple strains and being infected with only one strain wouldn’t be as effective.
Regardless of whether the vaccine can work, and it’s fair to be skeptical at first, we do know people test positive for COVID after recovering. i know everyone is sick of this year’s little preventative measures, but we are lucky that it’s not hard to isolate. We have screens and selfie cams everywhere, easy communication, cheap and awesome entertainment, and groceries and great meals can be loaded in our trunks or delivered to our doors for not much money.
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/16/2020 @ 5:30 ammy point being, a leader making a show of isolating and doing the right thing is not just about the immediate issue. He’s re-iterating a norm. It’s just run-of-the-mill leadership.
Somewhere between the New Mexico Governor and the US president is a happy medium where people can follow good advice. Reasonable people will differ about what’s appropriate, but it must be nice to have a leader who isn’t making it worse.
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/16/2020 @ 6:00 amWhat #201âs lament misses is that there are documented cases of reinfection. The Prime Minister follows the advice of science even though he is âbursting with antibodiesâ.
The President chose a different approach than the UK. And he politicized the differences. Which makes it almost impossible to discuss any kind of cost benefit analysis without getting into a fist fight. If you think that doesnât figure into this…
Appalled (3b1b4a) — 11/16/2020 @ 6:56 amIs there a single Secretary of State in the US that has agreed with Trump? That the election was rigged in their state?
noel (9fead1) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:04 amHomeland Security says no, there isn’t fraud. Of course the election officials in every state say the same. Is there any credible evidence of any major fraud, anywhere? Not that I have seen.
But… the President of the United States… declares he prevailed when Biden won by six million votes and three states to spare. Just mind-blowing. On elections, he has been crying wolf for over four years. Always lacking proof.
noel (9fead1) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:15 amnoel, it’s surreal. It’s not just that Biden obviously won. It’s how all the Trump fan blogs and podcasts are demanding Trump fans “rise up.” It’s the constant calls for bloodshed. I guess step one was to provoke the far left, and they are often easily provoked. The fear of lefty riots and violence has somehow opened a door for the far right to talk about civil war a whole lot more. And Trump sees this as an opportunity.
But playing this out, if you’re cynical about democrats, just think how many doors this stuff is opening for radicals down the road. Think how rarely (if ever) this will actually work out to benefit the GOP on any policy or outcome, and how often it will push cities and the house, maybe judges, to get things wrong.
Surreal that Team R is party to its own future failures. Not surprising though.
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:19 amModerna vaccine 94.5% Effective
Drugmaker Moderna says its COVID-19 vaccine is 94.5 percent effective based on preliminary data from its ongoing trial – making it the second US company in a week to report results that far exceed expectations.
The US government has already bought 100 million doses of Moderna’s vaccine, which is enough to vaccinate 50 million Americans given people need to have two shots.
President Donald Trump reacted to the news by tweeting: ‘Another Vaccine just announced. This time by Moderna, 95% effective. For those great ‘historians’, please remember that these great discoveries, which will end the China Plague, all took place on my watch!’
Moderna, part of the US government’s Operation Warp Speed program that will handle distribution of the vaccine to states, expects to have enough safety data required for authorization in the next week or so and will file for emergency use authorization in the coming weeks.
A key advantage of Moderna’s vaccine is that it does not need ultra-cold storage like Pfizer’s, making it easier to distribute.
Moderna expects it to be stable at standard refrigerator temperatures of 36 to 48 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 days and it can be stored for up to 6 months at -4 degrees Fahrenheit.
Pfizer’s vaccine must be shipped and stored at minus 94F, the sort of temperature typical of an Antarctic winter. At standard refrigerator temperatures, it can be stored for up to five days.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:21 amOn elections, he has been crying wolf for over four years. Always lacking proof.
âTrump Russia Collusionâ
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:23 amThe best comparison to Donald Trump, I think, is the Enzyte scam which targeted men with small penises, and it is because it targeted men with small penises what makes it the best comparison if the obvious needs to be stated.
Petty theft on a grand scale — the scammer collected around $400 million at an average of only about $100 from each victim and ended up with a 25-year prison sentence.
nk (1d9030) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:24 amAnd in case you were wondering “But what bout his female supporters?”
nk (1d9030) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:46 amTrump did collude with Russia ya knuckle head. You say this 500 times a day but you’re just trying to convince yourself.
Even if we didn’t have all the direct evidence, you’d have to work pretty hard to deny Trump does all he can to make America worse and help Russia. It’s ridiculous at this point.
Team R doesn’t mean “Republican”.
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:50 amTrump!
Russia!
Collusion!
Dave (1bb933) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:50 am@213: Good thing Don Jr. wasnât on the ballot, just like Hunter wasnât.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:52 amDon Jr is a senior member of Trump’s administration and his campaign. The idea that you’ve somehow defended Trump from collusion because his most senior people, trust years later, were busted dead to rights, is a nice combo of pathetic and hilarious. Adam Sandler could voice your comments.
You know better though. No one sticks to the same talking point this much without knowing what you’re doing. You don’t want to convince. You want to piss us off because you know we love our country and there’s nothing we can do to stop Trump from damaging it every day.
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:57 am@214
The #2, #3 and #4 officers of President-Reject Trumpâs campaign attended a meeting in furtherance of an illegal conspiracy with Russian intelligence operatives to procure aid to the campaign.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:04 am@216: Well, be sure to let Weissmannâs team know that.
After four years, good to know it couldâve been â#2, #3 and #4 Officers Russia Collusionâ instead, but too bad it wasnât.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:18 amIt’s really something your defense is that you know the collusion happened, but so what, too bad, so sad.
The king of whatabouts would have a stroke if Obama was 1% as linked to something 1% as bad.
Dustin (4237e0) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:23 amItâs really something your defense is that you know the collusion happened, but so what, too bad, so sad.
Itâs really something that you hear X when I said Y.
Sounds like you and Dave have a scoop. Please run to your Weismann pit bulls with it, since he found nothing.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:30 amErick Erickson, who voted for Trump in GA…
I don’t know if this will get through to all the Fraud Truthers out there, but it should.
Paul Montagu (1ed8c1) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:41 amI donât know if this will get through to all the Fraud Truthers out there, but it should.
Unlike Collusion Truthers, you mean. Give it four years.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:47 amI had some fellow Republicans over to the house Saturday night. It was safe. They already had COVID six weeks ago. But they were still wearing a MAGA hat and MAGA mask.
Anyway…. things were peaceful for a good hour and then Pennsylvania stealing the election came up. I asked for the proof but they insisted that they just needed time to gather some, of course. Then I asked the question I had been waiting to hear an answer to. I asked:
“His UN Ambassador, Secretary of State, CIA Chief, FBI Director, Chief of Staff, his spokesman and lawyer (among many others) have all said that the man is unfit. The President is unfit for office. But you believe Donald Trump. Only him. Why? How many more will it take to convince you?”
It took only a few seconds before the words were used. I knew they were coming. “Deep State”. I responded: “But, they are his appointees.” Then I just let it go. QAnon might have been next. And I didn’t have the patience for that one.
noel (9fead1) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:54 amHe didnât âfind nothingâ.
They decided Junior would be able to convince a jury that he was too stupid to know that asking a foreign government to provide campaign assistance was illegal.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/16/2020 @ 8:58 amIf youâre referring Haley, that was before she worked for him, no?
Since jumping on the Trump Train sheâs been #MAGA all the way.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/16/2020 @ 9:04 amA bad economy works against the challengers, if people are afraid they will make things worse.
Sammy Finkelman (f6c6ee) — 11/16/2020 @ 9:16 amSorry, it was National Security Advisor. I was referring to Bolton. Not Haley. But there are so many Trump critics among his appointees. Hard to keep track.
noel (9fead1) — 11/16/2020 @ 9:16 amTrumpâs national security adviser acknowledges it âobviouslyâ looks like Biden won
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âIf there is a new administration, they deserve some time to come in and implement their policies,â OâBrien said. âWe may have policy disagreements, but, look, if the Biden-Harris ticket is determined to be the winner â obviously, things look that way now â weâll have a very professional transition from the National Security Council. Thereâs no question about it.”
During his remarks, OâBrien also called recent peace deals that Israel struck with Bahrain, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates âa great legacy for [Trump] to have as he leaves office.â
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 11/16/2020 @ 9:40 am…..
I still don’t understand why so-called “peace deals” with Bahrain, Sudan and the United Arab Emirates are such a big deal. Neither of them are a front line state to Israel, Bahrain and the UAE are minor players in the Middle East, and Sudan is one of Trump’s “s**thole” countries. Now if Trump had brokered a peace deal between Israel and Syria, Lebanon, or Saudi Arabia, or reconciled the Koreas (under his “lover” Kim Jong Un, of course) that would be “a great legacy.”
220. Erick Erickson:
And was it organized? People voting for deceased individuals can happen in an unorganized manner. What you hear about historical election fraud is when absentee or new votes were created by people running the election.
The two big organized things that might have happened aren’t quite fraud, at least by themselves, and may be illegal – ballot harvesting and and vote coaching (depending on who is doing it) when someone is marking a ballot.
Many Democratic votes were lost because of the absentee ballot system, particularly in Pennsylvania, with it’s Publisher’s Clearing House sweepstakes like rule to put the ballot inside an otherwise purposeless envelope – but it happens everywhere all the time. In 2018 many Democratic ballots were spoiled in one county in Georgia – it was 1/60 that amount this year. They were generally Democratic ballots because the Democratic Party promoted mail voting and Donald Trump discouraged it.
The “bullet votes” just for president that Sidney Powell, and after her Rudolph Giuliani, talk about are not ones that were counted all at one time, but are the sum total of such votes in the entire state, and anyone who knows anything about how people vote knows there is always a small fraction of votes cast like that in any multi-office election.
And at least one element of the process in Philadelphia was live streamed.
I think the date of birth they used was actually January 1, 1901. Or was that not the right way to do it?
Had that been going on, it would have been detected within a few hours after the polls closed.
Wrong and too weak refutation.
The whole business with vote counting software changing votes is nonsense, not because it can’t theoretically exist, whether the software was stolen from the CIA or written by North Korean hackers, but because it can’t theoretically exist without almost immediate detection in places with paper ballots or precinct level vote tabulating.
How long did it take to discover a problem with the vote counting in the Iowa Democratic caucuses this year?
Sammy Finkelman (f6c6ee) — 11/16/2020 @ 9:50 amUnlike the conspiracy between Putin people and Trump people to help Trump win, the Fraud Truthers have no evidence. People who have read the relevant parts of the Mueller and SIC reports know that.
Paul Montagu (fe439e) — 11/16/2020 @ 9:57 amQAnon kind of disappeared after the election. (except for some people promoting the ides he really won)
I think whoever or whatever was behind it wanted Trump to lose the 2020 election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/technology/qanon-election-trump.html
Sammy Finkelman (f6c6ee) — 11/16/2020 @ 10:38 amQanon is alive and well in the Republican Party and Congress.
Rip Murdock (3c07f4) — 11/16/2020 @ 11:10 amThey’re very busy packing and moving to Washington, to take their congressional seats in January…
Dave (1bb933) — 11/16/2020 @ 11:19 amHere’s another classic case of Trump administration hypocrisy.
She won’t declare Biden the “apparent successful candidate” while expecting to be unemployed in 65 days.
Paul Montagu (3444cd) — 11/16/2020 @ 2:23 pm@233: Actually, this is another example of Montagu hypocrisy. The GSA mucked with the Trump transition while your outrage meter was on the fritz.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/oct/25/donald-trump-got-bad-gsa-treatment/
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 2:56 pm@232: Collusion Truthers are the QAnon of NeverTrump.
beer ân pretzels (042d67) — 11/16/2020 @ 2:57 pmA pessimistic view: (probably not true but all these thins have been said) For one thing, it really doesn’t hospitalize most of its victims and for months.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/10/29/the-latest-antibody-data-from-lilly-and-from-regeneron
In the comment section:
Sammy Finkelman (f6c6ee) — 11/16/2020 @ 7:31 pmhttps://thepostmillennial.com/blm-activist-filmed-sucker-punching-man-in-viral-video-was-recently-released-from-prison
Surprising absolutely no one, the leftist antifa thug who cheap shot a Trump supporter knocking him out is a child molester.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 11/16/2020 @ 10:49 pm