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10/31/2020

Weekend Open Thread

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:02 am



[guest post by Dana]

Here are a few news items to chew over. Feel free to share anything you think might interest readers. Please remember to include links.

First news item

Mitch McConnell’s new campaign ad aims for the heartstrings:

Second news item

Aunt Becky reports to prison early:

The actress Lori Loughlin reported to a federal prison in Northern California on Friday to start a two-month sentence for her role in a massive college admissions cheating scandal, according to officials at the prison and the federal prosecutor’s office…The “Full House” star surrendered to authorities at the Federal Correctional Institution in Dublin, California, about 40 miles east of San Francisco. She was early; the judge who sentenced her ordered her to report to prison on Nov. 19…Loughlin, who was assigned Bureau of Prisons number 77827-112, has also been ordered to pay a fine of $150,000 and complete 100 hours of community service once she is released

Third news item

Asian tiebreakers:

Asian American and Pacific Islanders could provide the margin of victory in the country’s 10 most contested states, which are scattered across the Midwest, South and Southwest, according to a new report commissioned by the National Education Association.

The survey, conducted in July and September with 875 Asian constituents, finds new insight into an overlooked community that holds an outsize influence on Senate and presidential races. A majority of the study respondents are of Chinese, Indian and Filipino descent.

The report highlighted the fact that a third of registered AAPI voters, more than 2 million in total, live in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Texas and Wisconsin.

Fourth news item

Checking in with the Mexicans for Trump:

[S]ome of the Mexican president’s supporters are pulling for an unlikely candidate in the upcoming US election: Donald Trump.

“We want President Trump to stay in office. Why? Because there’s good communication between him and President López Obrador,” said Carolina Mayor, a veterinarian. “They understand each other perfectly because they’re nationalists. They’re nationalist presidents.”

Amlo, as Mexico’s president is known, has not commented on the election, saying he wants to stay out of US politics. But he has forged a surprisingly close relationship with Trump, going out of his way to praise the US president, and deploying the national guard to crack down on Central American migants.

Trump, meanwhile, has dialed down the insults and repeatedly called Amlo a “great guy”.

Fifth news item

She’ll still carry water for him:

During an off-script portion of his speech, the president mentioned that [Laura] Ingraham was at the rally and looked around to point her out to the crowd. But Trump quickly pounced on Ingraham when he saw that she had donned a face mask.

“I can’t recognize you. Is that a mask? No way. Are you wearing a mask? I’ve never seen her in a mask,” Trump said. “Look at you. Oh, she’s being very politically correct. Whoa. Whoa.”

Sixth news item

France digs in against radical Islamic terrorism:

France’s interior minister said on Friday more militant attacks on its soil were likely and the country was engaged in a war against Islamist ideology following the second deadly knife attack in its cities in two weeks.

Minister Gerald Damarnin was speaking a day after an assailant shouting “Allahu Akbar” (God is Greatest) beheaded a woman and killed two other people in a church in Nice. The man was shot by police and is now in critical condition in a hospital…

Speaking outside the church in Nice on Thursday, Macron said France had been attacked “over our values, for our taste for freedom, for the ability on our soil to have freedom of belief…And I say it with great clarity again today: We will not give any ground.”

Seventh news item

Pay attention, America: Europe going on lockdown again:

Europe’s whack-a-mole strategy of imposing local lockdowns to squash the second wave of the coronavirus pandemic didn’t work. Now it’s time to pull out the big guns.

Germany and France both announced new four-week national lockdowns on Wednesday night. They followed the Czech Republic and Ireland, which put country-wide restrictions in place earlier this month. Spain and the United Kingdom could be next.

Eighth news item

Trump administration violates U.S. policy:

Over 200 children from countries like Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras have been forced into Mexico after trying to cross into the U.S. in the last eight months, according to the New York Times, where they were placed with welfare authorities and into shelters operated by religious groups and private organizations.

According to U.S. policy and an agreement with the Mexican government, only Mexican children and children with adult supervision can be pushed back into Mexico after trying to cross the border, the report said, others are supposed to be flown back to their home countries by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

An email from U.S. Border Patrol’s assistant chief, Eduardo Sanchez, obtained by the Times, confirmed that unaccompanied children had been sent back into Mexico instead of being flown to their home countries, and acting commissioner of the Customs and Border Protection agency Mark Morgan acknowledged that expelling unaccompanied non-Mexican children to Mexico was against U.S. policy.

Ninth news item

The legendary Sean Connery has died at 90:

Sir Sean died peacefully in his sleep, while in the Bahamas, having been “unwell for some time”, his son said.

Jason Connery said his father “had many of his family who could be in the Bahamas around him” when he died overnight in Nassau.

He said: “We are all working at understanding this huge event as it only happened so recently, even though my dad has been unwell for some time.

“A sad day for all who knew and loved my dad and a sad loss for all people around the world who enjoyed the wonderful gift he had as an actor.”

Have a great weekend.

–Dana

263 Responses to “Weekend Open Thread”

  1. Good morning!

    I had no idea that Connery had enlisted in the Navy at 16, and served for three years.

    Dana (6995e0)

  2. SPECTRE finally got him, and near where he had foiled their plans twice, too, first with Dr. No and again with Number Two.

    nk (1d9030)

  3. Back in 2013, it was reported that Connery had Alzheimer’s, and was done with public appearances.

    Dana (6995e0)

  4. One (unintentionally) funny scene in The Longest Day has Connery (a well-known Scottish nationalist later in life) as a British soldier, saying (as hears the bagpipes of the British 1st Special Service Brigade approach) “It takes an Irishman to play the pipes” as he plugs his ears.

    Rip Murdock (e1c896)

  5. Trump’s plan to discount mail-in votes that arrive after Nov. 3rd just might backfire, because many of those ballots could be from Republicans voting for him.

    https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/10/30/late-arriving-mail-ballots-likely-come-republicans/

    Also, Texas is very much in play.

    https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/10/30/uncharted-territory-texas-early-voting-turnout-surpasses-total-turnout-2016/

    Democrats have been wanting to turn Texas blue, because Texas was solidly Democratic for decades, until Reagan turned the state red in 1980. So winning Texas is the gem for Democrats, and it just might happen.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  6. Covid-19 Is Worse in the Dakotas Now Than It Was in the Spring’s Hot Spots
    The percentage of tests for Covid-19 coming back positive in South Dakota has soared to 46%. That’s more than eight times the World Health Organization’s recommended 5% threshold for businesses to be open.

    As Covid cases surge across the U.S. and in Europe, South Dakota and North Dakota hold a distinct position: Each has more new virus cases per capita than any other states have seen since the pandemic began. South Dakota has the most and North Dakota the second-most.
    ………
    Maggie Seidel, a senior adviser to (Gov. Kristi) Noem, said in an interview that the governor has no opinion on whether people should wear masks while in close proximity to others in public locations. Ms. Seidel said the governor’s response is a measured one to a virus that she said will spread with or without governmental restrictions.

    “We feel pretty good about where we’re at,” Ms. Seidel said. “The governor is not going to change any of her approach—why should she?”
    ………..
    South Dakota’s positivity rate, as reported by Johns Hopkins University, is 46%. That is roughly double the 20% and 24% rate that Texas and Arizona, respectively, saw over the summer, prompting their Republican governors to close businesses such as bars while Texas also began requiring masks. It is on par with the positivity rate New York recorded in April, when testing was much more limited.

    North Dakota’s positivity rate is 11%. The state has averaged 109 new cases per 100,000 people daily over the past seven days, while South Dakota has averaged 115 cases. By contrast, the highest number of new cases in New York was 59 per 100,000 on April 14.

    Hospitalizations and deaths are also rising in both states. Hospitalizations have roughly doubled in the past month, to 412 from 209 in South Dakota and to 284 from 105 in North Dakota.
    ………
    People in their 20s and 30s have seen some of the highest numbers of new cases, and health officials said it is difficult to stop the virus from spreading from young people to more vulnerable populations such as the elderly.
    ……..
    Both governors have adopted the Trump administration’s surrender policy. I sincerely hope Gryph is well.

    Rip Murdock (e1c896)

  7. Hoisted on his own petard alert:

    Georgia Gov. Kemp may not be able to vote during COVID-19 quarantine
    Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp might not be able to vote because he’s in quarantine after close contact with U.S. Rep. Drew Ferguson, who tested positive for the coronavirus Friday.

    Kemp, who tested negative for the virus, has requested an absentee ballot, his spokesman said.

    But an absentee ballot requested Friday is unlikely to arrive in the mail before polls close Tuesday. Georgia law and a court ruling required all absentee ballots to be received by county election officials before 7 p.m. on Election Day.

    Kemp also couldn’t vote in person on Tuesday without violating coronavirus guidelines from the Atlanta-based U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC says people who have been in close contact with someone who has COVID-19 should stay home for 14 days and stay away from others.
    ……….
    While state law allows registered voters to request absentee ballots through Friday, election officials can’t ensure that they’ll arrive in time.
    ………
    Kemp was Georgia’s Secretary of State before becoming governor.

    Rip Murdock (e1c896)

  8. Pay attention America, Sweden:

    el gato malo
    @boriquagato
    governor pritzker in illinois has loved his lockdown.

    but has it accomplished anything?

    it does not look like it

    sweden and illinois have similar characteristics but sweden counts covid deaths more aggressively.

    this should give the advantage to IL.

    but they still lost.

    https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1292085205478658054?s=20
    _

    harkin (b663b8)

  9. If Texas is really in play why was Biden campaigning in Minnesota yesterday, which Hilary won in 2016 without visiting after the primary season (as far as 10 minutes of searching tells me)?

    kaf (0ff60d)

  10. Gawain’s Ghost (b25cd1) — 10/31/2020 @ 7:58 am

    I’m thinking that Trump voters are casting the majority of there early ballots. If an early-voting exit poll were conducted, though, how reliable would people perceive it to be if it skewed one way or the other? Are early-voting exit polls a thing, somewhere? Are there legal impediments to them?

    felipe (023cc9)

  11. gahh! not there, their.

    felipe (023cc9)

  12. “In the Obama years, progressive journalists were infuriated by the disclosures of whistleblowers like Snowden and Chelsea Manning, and aimed their professional ire at the federal government for war crimes, drone assassination, and mass abuse of surveillance authority.
    The bugbears of the day were intelligence officials who ran these programs and deceived the public about them: people like CIA directors Hayden and Brennan, and Director of National Intelligence Clapper.

    These intelligence community leaders only a few short years ago served an administration that sought a “reset” with the systematic human rights violator that was Vladimir Putin’s Russia, a country then-President Obama dismissed throughout his tenure as a “regional power” that acts “not out of strength, but out of weakness.” The consistent posture of the Obama administration — the Obama-Biden administration — was that Russia ranked far below terrorists as a potential threat to the United States.

    After 2016, however, these officials presented themselves as norms-defending heroes protecting America against the twin “existential” threats of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin.

    Russia, just a few years ago described by Rachel Maddow as a harmless “gnat on the butt of an elephant,” was now reinvented as an all-powerful foe mounting an influence campaign of unprecedented reach, with everyone from Trump to the Green Party to blogs like Truthdig and Naked Capitalism, to congresswoman and war veteran Tulsi Gabbard, to Bernie Sanders, all potentially doing the bidding of a Cold War foe bent on “sowing discord” on our shores.“

    https://taibbi.substack.com/p/glenn-greenwald-on-his-resignation
    _

    “And Putin smiled” – lol
    _

    harkin (b663b8)

  13. I wonder if the Hallmark blackout on Ms. Loughlin will end after she pays her debt to society, but I did see her lurking around PIXL.
    There’s another segment besides Asians that can tip the scales in the election, and that’s the Amish, because you won’t find them in any surveys.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  14. But Trump quickly pounced on Ingraham

    That was some straight up vicious pouncing. Trump is in fact literally the most vicious pouncer in human history. He represents an existential threat to all humans everywhere. Experts suggest that his pounces are so vicious they may have the ability to travel back in time. They’ve theorized that it’s possible one of Trump’s pounces bounced back in time and is what actually killed Kennedy.

    frosty (f27e97)

  15. KSP training slideshow quotes Hitler, advocates ‘ruthless’ violence
    A training slideshow used by the Kentucky State Police (KSP) — the second largest police force in the state — urges cadets to be “ruthless killer[s]” and quotes Adolf Hitler advocating violence.
    ……..
    One slide, titled “Violence of Action,” in addition to imploring officers to be “ruthless killer[s],” instructs troopers to have “a mindset void of emotion” and to “meet violence with greater violence.”

    A line from Adolf Hitler’s fascist and anti-Semitic manifesto, Mein Kampf, is featured in the slide: “the very first essential for success is a perpetually constant and regular employment of violence.”
    ………
    In a statement emailed to RedEye reporters, KSP spokesperson Lieutenant Joshua Lawson wrote, “The quotes are used for their content and relevance to the topic addressed in the presentation. The presentation touches on several aspects of service, selflessness, and moral guidance. All of these topics go to the fundamentals of law enforcement such as treating everyone equally, service to the public, and being guided by the law.”
    ……….
    Although the presentation also features quotes from a variety of other sources including Sun Tzu and Albert Einstein, Dr. Jack Glaser —a professor at the University of California Berkeley who studies police practices — found the Hitler quotes inexcusable.

    “Hitler is, justifiably, the archetype of a bad person with the worst, inhumane morals. It’s controversial enough to quote him when trying to illustrate a point about genocidal despots. Quoting him in the manner that these trainings do —prescriptively —is unfathomable,” Glaser wrote in an email to RedEye reporters.
    ……..
    Glaser worries that the presentation “is a recipe for excessive force.”

    “The tenor and substance of this training is very much at odds with contemporary police efforts to improve community relations and minimize excessive use of force,” Glaser stated.

    One slide titled “The Thin Gray Line” uses a quote from Robert E. Lee and two photos of seemingly all-white groups of KSP officers in their traditional gray uniforms.

    “It’s concerning that the Thin Gray Line slide has a quote from Robert E. Lee, given that Lee was the Confederate commander and Confederate uniforms were famously gray,” Glaser said.
    …….
    A closing slide of the Powerpoint simply states “Über Alles” in large text. The phrase, which was previously part of the German national anthem, translates to “above all” or “above everything else,” commonly used to signify national superiority. Modern Germans heavily associate the phrase with the Nazis.
    …….
    The KSP presentation appears to draw heavily from nationally-known police trainer Dave Grossman, who delivers lectures to police forces nation-wide on his theory of “killology” teaching police officers to embrace “the responsibility to kill” and “making it possible for people to kill without conscious thought,” as he said during an interview with PBS’s Frontline.
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (e1c896)

  16. Pay attention, America: Europe going on lockdown again:

    Trump has so mismanaged Europe’s Covid response.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  17. Trump administration violates U.S. policy

    Well, don’t fret Trump critics. Biden will ditch the policy entirely, to the relief of child traffickers and MS-13.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  18. Dana-
    Please release comment 15. Thanks.

    Rip Murdock (e1c896)

  19. But Trump quickly pounced on Ingraham

    Heh!
    And when they got behind closed doors
    And she put the leather mask on
    And took out the Forbes magazine
    Oh, only Freud knows what Trump does
    Behind closed doors.

    Yeah, I think “foreplay” is the more accurate way to describe it. “Palomino”, all y’all!

    nk (1d9030)

  20. I hope that Ms. Loughlin is able to resume her career after prison. To me her offense was clearly a wrong, but it wasn’t exactly a huge crime meriting long term exclusion from society. To me it was worse than speeding but less bad than DUI. I’m not a big watcher of Hallmark movies, but the few I’ve seen were okay. Schmaltzy and with obvious predictable plots (the sweet girl and the handsome guy are definitely going to solve the problems keeping them apart). Harmless entertainment. I never understood the crowd that wanted her head on a pike.

    Fred (25e171)

  21. With regard to Amlo, both men have next wives of central European roots and teenage sons. It helps that unlike Fox (Guanajuato) and Calderon (Michoacan), Amlo comes from a Mexican state (Tabasco) with very little pickup truck constituency in the US.

    urbanleftbehind (97ac45)

  22. “Biden will ditch the policy entirely, to the relief of child traffickers and MS-13.“
    _

    Breitbart News
    @BreitbartNews

    The Department of Justice has arrested more than 600 MS-13 Gang members, the overwhelming majority of which are illegal aliens, since 2017.

    https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1322219404827000832?s=20
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  23. Regarding horseface girl, if George Conway (before KC) hit it, anybody else can shoot their shot with a reasonable chance of success.

    urbanleftbehind (97ac45)

  24. I think all those parents in Operation Varsity Blues Prosecutors Posturing for Publicity Value were more sinned against than sinning, also, Fred. I just hope their kids appreciate it.

    nk (1d9030)

  25. Dr. Laura is a little on the bony side for me, but I think she has a passably pretty face.

    nk (1d9030)

  26. “The Department of Justice has arrested more than 600 MS-13 Gang members, the overwhelming majority of which are illegal aliens, since 2017.”

    A number without context.

    Davethulhu (5954b2)

  27. @BreitbartNews

    You know for sure it’s somehow dishonest, somehow manipulation. They would lie if telling the truth was easy. No better than Trump except they probably haven’t assaulted as many women.

    too bad they have that name.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  28. If there ever was a leftist prima donna journalist (I repeat myself), it’s Glenn Greenwald.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  29. If Texas is really in play why was Biden campaigning in Minnesota yesterday, which Hilary won in 2016 without visiting after the primary season (as far as 10 minutes of searching tells me)?

    kaf (0ff60d) — 10/31/2020 @ 8:15 am

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/us-election-biden-bus-trump-supporters-texas-event-cancelled-b1477876.html

    Apparently Biden’s campaign is trying to be active in Austin, possibly with Harris, but Trump fanboys tried to ram the bus with a hearse, were armed, managed to get Biden’s campaign to cancel the event. That will get out the vote for Biden pretty nicely I hope.

    If Trump and pals weren’t so scared of Biden in Texas they wouldn’t act like this. I think Texas is going to be close and I don’t really want trash to win.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  30. Trump has so mismanaged Europe’s Covid response.

    Europe actually had a second wave, which was predicted. The US has had a months-long continuous swell. It’s why we’re 8th worst in the world in deaths per million and 9th worst in cases per million. The last time we were below 35,000 new cases a day (7-day moving average) was June 25th. This is Trump’s failure.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  31. I agree with The Intercept. After reading Greenwald’s GBCW tome, he really does need an editor. The audacity of The Intercept, saying that he should do some actual reporting and confirm the allegation against the Bidens instead of just throw unconfirmed assertions out there.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  32. More on the Trumpista armed militia — the people posturing as the only Real Americans — using force to stop a rally by political opponents.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  33. Mr. Nichols is right about this: At least NeverTrumpers stood and fought. Courage exercised only when the coast is clear is not courage; it is opportunism.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  34. 32,

    To which I would ask, what were the Trumpista armed militia so afraid of anyway?? A WOC? A doddering old man? Pray tell, what could be so frightening about them that these people needed to barricade the entry and be fully armed?

    Meh. What a bunch of big babies modeling themselves after our toddler-in-chief.

    P.S. That is a response to Trumpers blocking the freeway interchange, not the collision. In looking closely at that video, it would appear that the white SUV tried to push its way into the neighboring lane behind the campaign bus and in front of the black truck already in the lane. So the accident was the staffer in the SUV’s fault, not the black Trump truck.

    Dana (6995e0)

  35. Jake Tapper
    @jaketapper
    ·
    The Biden campaign says Trump supporters in Texas put their “staff, surrogates, supporters, and others in harm’s way.“

    Here’s more from a local news source about an incident on the highway
    _ _


    LaRay Hamilton
    @LaRayHamilton
    ·
    You mean this? Where the white SUV crossed over into the right lane where the black truck was driving?

    [video shows Biden car crossing lanes and hitting Trump vehicle]

    https://twitter.com/girl_named_ryan/status/1322566115470544897?s=20

    __ _

    Jake Tapper
    @jaketapper

    I deleted a thread that also described the event because the thread headed off into a deranged territory — apologies.
    __ _

    Relax, I didn’t vote for the guy you hate
    @jtlol
    ·
    You deleted it because everybody pointed out what a hack you are.
    __ _

    Cooper Daves
    @CooperDaves
    ·
    No you loved where it went till you got called out
    __ _

    A_Horrible_Glory
    @AHorribleGlory
    ·
    You deleted it because the average person on Twitter is a better and more thorough investigative journalist than you.

    __ _

    ‘Journalism’ under Biden/Harris gonna be fun.
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  36. R.I.P. Sean Connery

    Bond is dead. No, really: BOND IS DEAD.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  37. North Dakota man arrested for threatening to blow up voting location
    A 33-year-old self-professed “Proud Boy” was arrested Wednesday, Oct. 28, by the Dickinson Police Department on terrorizing charges after sending an anonymous email to The Dickinson Press in which he conveyed a bomb threat, targeting a voting location in the city.
    ……
    The email stated, “I will blow up the voting location in Stark Co.,” and it was signed by “The Proud Boys.”
    ……..
    “I really don’t know why people do some of the things they do. Some of them have some issues going on in their lives and mental health disabilities. There’s such a variety of things which causes people to commit crimes that I can’t really pin it down,” (Dickinson Police Sgt. Joe Cianni) said. “… It could be as bad as someone having a bad day and frustrated with what’s been occurring throughout the day or throughout the week.”
    >>>>>>>>>
    Yeah, the first thing I think of when I’m having a bad day is to send a threatening email.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  38. “The audacity of The Intercept, saying that he should do some actual reporting and confirm the allegation against the Bidens instead of just throw unconfirmed assertions out there.
    _

    The pee tape, Russian collusion, Tulsi is a Russian asset and Afghan bounty stories give this comment a big thumbs up.
    _

    “Many in the press have therefore talked themselves into the proposition that questioning things like the Trump-Russia collusion theory, or the reflexive dismissal of adverse information about politicians like Biden as foreign disinformation, can have no purpose beyond pro-Trump partisanship.

    In service of this, they’ve surrendered their own traditional roles as questioners and arbiters of fact, giving that power over to the same people and institutions whose poor performance, record of deception, and corruption helped inspire voters to make such a desperate choice in Trump in the first place. They’ve not only allowed intelligence community narratives to drive the press, they’ve invited it.

    When the likes of Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden wrote a joint letter decrying the recent Post story as a seeming Russian mischief, they were very careful in what they said. They used the term “information operation” instead of “misinformation,” and prominently included the line, “We do not have evidence of Russian involvement.”

    However, in the recent Intercept story quoting that letter, describing the Post story has having “the classic earmarks of Russian misinformation,” the the line about not having evidence was left out.“
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  39. Here is another of Trump’s many corruptions.

    The president was discussing an active criminal case with the authoritarian leader of a nation in which Mr. Trump does business; he reported receiving at least $2.6 million in net income from operations in Turkey from 2015 through 2018, according to tax records obtained by The New York Times.

    And Mr. Trump’s sympathetic response to Mr. Erdogan was especially jarring because it involved accusations that the bank had undercut Mr. Trump’s policy of economically isolating Iran, a centerpiece of his Middle East plan.

    Former White House officials said they came to fear that the president was open to swaying the criminal justice system to advance a transactional and ill-defined agenda of his own.

    US Attorney Berman was fired by AG Barr while Mr. Berman was investigating the Turkish Halkbank. Someone should catalog all of Trump’s corruptions and cruelties he perpetuated while in office. Oh wait, it’s been done.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)


  40. Naomi Klein
    @NaomiAKlein
    ·
    Glenn was not “censored” – he was edited, and edited well. Crying censorship is a marketing ploy to gin up subscribers for his new Substack. Are people really going to fall for it?
    __ _

    Aslan Egia
    @AslanEgia
    ·
    LMAO – @ggreenwald was getting paid half a million dollars a year, plus generous benefits and pension, with a very secure and high status job at @theintercept
    .
    If he were prioritizing the money he’d have stuck with that job, let them censor him, and not rocked the boat!
    __

    Federico
    @Ragmondy
    ·
    jesus, “edited well”, the beginnings of a new slogan for censorship?

    how hard was it to publish the article and then the editors releasing a counterargument or just adding an editor’s note at the foot?

    censorship is not the answer in any shape or form.
    _

    lol at people here defending this.
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  41. Most likely we all have favorite Connery films to go with our popcorn. He was, of course, the first– and by far the best- Bond. The Bonds are in a class by themselves as both commercial and cultural successes. And from my experience in the biz, Hollywood insiders will tell you Connery was well respected for successfully shaking that typecasting. It was a challenge to be sure. He did The Avengers only as a favor to the director. But among my personal favorites- The Hill, The Man Who Would Be King and, of course, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Truly a loss.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  42. Cosider this: Connery’s in heaven. Where there’s pussy galore. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  43. COVID-19 death rate in U.S. nursing homes, as of September 27, 2020, by state
    With all the excoriating of Governor Cuomo over nursing home deaths from COVID-19 (a tragedy to be sure), it is less than half of the deaths per 1,000 (50.5) of Massachusetts (125.5) and New Jersey (120.1), and half of Connecticut (100.1). In fact, 19 states have higher death rates than New York.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  44. Favorite Sean Connery movies, not including his most famous ones (Bond, Untouchables, etc.)

    1. Family Business (1989) – Plays the roguishly charming father of Dustin Hoffman and grandfather of Matthew Broderick in a family of thieves. Absolutely steals the movie from his two solid co-stars.

    2. Highlander (1986) – As the Spanish immortal who befriends and trains Christopher Lambert to fight the evil Clancy Brown during the Quickening.

    3. The Longest Day (1962) – This is of course a grand epic, but a young Connery plays Pvt. Flanagan of His Majesty’s Army, Third Infantry Division.

    4. Finding Forrester (2000) – Connery as a reclusive writer who published one famous book and then disappeared, a la J.D. Salinger, who then becomes a mentor to a teenage African-American basketball star who shows literary promise. The movie is way more nuanced than the trite plot summary would suggest.

    5. The Presidio (1988) – Plays the head of military police at the Presidio, investigating the on-base murder of a young MP along with San Francisco detective and former antagonist Mark Harmon. Harmon is too pretty to be effective in this movie, but Connery manages to carry the picture along with help from a terminally cute Meg Ryan.

    There are a whole bunch of other movies where Connery is excellent, but these five would be worth your while if you haven’t yet seen them. May he rest in peace.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  45. Agree with The Hill, add The Anderson Tapes.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  46. Yeah, the first thing I think of when I’m having a bad day is to send a threatening email.
    Rip Murdock (676dac) — 10/31/2020 @ 11:10 am

    Reminds me of a woman who went over the edge after her father committed suicide (while she was a teenager) and became a raging alcoholic, and then one day she went on a shooting spree and killed the three people who had done the most to help her. And then laughed when she was arrested.
    Later on, with the perspective of time, she explained: “I handle stress differently than other people.”

    Radegunda (20775b)

  47. No Zardoz? /sarc

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  48. Connery was one of those actors who stole the show in every single movie in which he appeared. Think back to his role as Indiana Jones’s dad in The Last Crusade. He’s up against Harrison Ford in one of Ford’s two most iconic roles, yet I think the scene everyone remembers from that movie is Connery using his umbrella to shoo the birds into the Nazi plane, forcing it to crash, and then insouciantly strolling along the beach, umbrella slung over his shoulder, quoting Eindard’s Two Lives of Charlemagne as his son looks on in amazement. Man, he was fantastic.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  49. @44.Yeah, there’s a lot of films he did quite well in. Marnie was an odd duck but he worked w/Hitch at a time when he was battling worries abou the Bond typecasting– same w/ The Hill, which is still a powerful film. If you haven’t seen i, catch it on TCM when they do their Connery retrospective. He wasn’t bad in A Bridge Too Far, either. Heard some backstage tales when he did the villain in The Avengers. His PR people protected his image closely. He had very good range– and did work better much better than the Oscr winin role The Untouchables too. A genuine movie star.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. @48. Absolutely. The only reason I watch Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade over and over is to enjoy Connery’s role. It was the only film, aside from Gunga Din, my late father enjoyed as well.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  51. Mitch McConnell, who has done more than any single other person to prevent another round of relief for Covid, is running ads about the adversity of growing up during a medical calamity?

    What an ***hole.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  52. Re:Sean movies that bring out the child in me.

    Darby O’Gill and the little people.

    Time bandits.

    felipe (023cc9)

  53. @45. Right. He was stellar in The Anderson Tapes, too. There’s sop many good roles he had. And he was doing that kind of work amidst battling that Bond stereotyping. It’s probably hard for younger readers to understand just how closely he was identified w/Bond in culture and media at the time. Personally, I believe his only rival to the role is Craig, who has done a stellar job as an updated Bond as well n o has walked away from it, too. Connery did a great job outrunning that stereotyping. Hope Craig can as well.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  54. My favorite Connery film is, and always will be, _the Name of the Rose_.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  55. RIP to whom I consider the one true James Bond. One big memory I have is when me and my friends, on the eve of our HS graduation, went to see Robin Hood Prince of Thieves on its opening night. The thunderous applause Connery got on his cameo appearance as King Richard at the films conclusion was beyond comprehension.

    urbanleftbehind (97ac45)

  56. Dustin, thank you for that explanation of what happened.

    One of my housemates has an ex who has gone full Trumpist, and he was cheering (without context) how wonderful that event was on Twitter this morning, and I didn’t have the heart to research it.

    > That is a response to Trumpers blocking the freeway interchange,

    I wonder how many of the Trumpists blocking the freeway interchange cheered when cars ran over protesters during the summer.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  57. Mitch McConnell, who has done more than any single other person to prevent another round of relief for Covid

    McConnell has done more than any single person to prevent relief for state governments that were fiscally batsh!t nuts well before covid.

    As for preventing actual covid relief, that honor goes to Pelosi.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  58. Someone should catalog all of Trump’s corruptions and cruelties he perpetuated while in office. Oh wait, it’s been done.

    One problem with that list is it includes some things that are just policy disagreements. For instance:

    – January 30, 2017 – Trump signed an executive order which instructed federal agencies to remove two regulations on private businesses for each new one added. The order also stipulated new rules should offset additional cost to businesses by eliminating regulations of equal or greater value to business bottom line.

    I’m hard-pressed to see how that is cruel or corrupt. Its inclusion in the list reflects a belief that private business, with its eye to “the bottom line” and concern to avoid going under, is inherently corrupt and that no regulatory burden on it can ever be too great.

    On the other side, there are people presenting a list of policy successes by the administration and saying they outweigh all the negatives on that list that aren’t really policy disagreements. And that argument merits a hearing — though people on that side are, I think, far too casual about the negatives.

    The strongest case against Trump comes from all the people who worked in the administration, saw up close how he thinks, and say that he is emphatically not more thoughtful and reasonable than his public persona, and that the successes have mostly been a result of officials following their own judgment without input or interference from Trump, while other officials face a constant battle to prevent his worst ideas from being implemented, including ideas that are blatantly illegal.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  59. It helps Craig that he looks more like an Eatern European than a foppy Brit. In my one one true Bond theory, he is the progeny of original Bond and a Russian or other eastern bloc hottie.

    urbanleftbehind (97ac45)

  60. My favorite Connery film is, and always will be, _the Name of the Rose_.

    I watched that movie not expecting to like it and was pleasantly surprised at how interesting it was. Umberto Eco is way better than Dan Brown.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  61. @59.I’ve tried to pin it down but it sees to be simply his mannerisms; his look–the stare– his speech pattern; tone of voice. You know– acting. And the scripts moved away from the gadgetry and added a lot of 21st century-styled action. But he’s done surprisingly well in the gig.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  62. Everybody doing the Toxic Waltz.

    urbanleftbehind (97ac45)

  63. Younger readers won’t remember this, but Connery as Bond actually had an action figure in the early 60s just after Thunderball was released in the U.S. Quite crude by today’s standards but it did look like him. Yes, had one. Top Bonds: Dr. No and From Russia With Love. But all time personal favorite: You Only Live Twice.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  64. It turns out that the Trump administration’s zeal for regulatory reform and opposition to rule by “guidance” documents and to prosecutorial abuse can be put aside when those scruples get in the way of a Trump agenda item.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  65. @64: Nobody should take a Trump critic’s complaint about prosecutorial abuse seriously.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  66. It helps Craig that he looks more like an Eatern European than a foppy Brit.

    Daniel Craig isn’t bad, but he’s no John Nettles.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  67. OK, so this straight up freaked me out.

    Dave (1bb933)

  68. This fascist incident is equivalent to SJWs and woke progressives shouting down conservatives in college auditoriums. If the Ben Shapiros of the world can condemn the latter, then they should do the same for the former. One standard.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  69. Agreed about the EO on deregulation, Rad.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  70. Oh Radegunda @ 66, thanks for posting that. I was dying of laughter.

    P.S. Craig over Nettles every time.

    Dana (6995e0)

  71. Dana, have you seen Catherine Tate’s work before? She has done a lot of different characters, including a foul-mouthed grandma, or “nan.”

    Radegunda (20775b)

  72. Shouldn’t it be spelled Graig?

    urbanleftbehind (97ac45)

  73. Texas Republicans are suing to get 100,000 of already cast ballots disqualified, likely to be mostly Democratic, on the grounds they were cast in violation of a ban on curb side voting.

    Based on a crap constitutional theory and in defiance of the fact that 100,000 voters voted the ballots in good faith.

    https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/10/texas-republicans-go-full-fash

    Reminds me again of how the Republican party believes in Republicanism and not democracy.

    Victor (00af29)

  74. This fascist incident is equivalent to SJWs and woke progressives shouting down conservatives in college auditoriums.

    Our host is discussing this matter on Twitter. You might want to watch video for yourself rather than just take the word of the Texas Democrats on the matter; there’s an argument to be made that rather than the Trump truck “ramming” the Biden-staffer’s car, this was an instance where the staffer’s car might have illegally merged into a lane which already was occupied by a vehicle.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  75. In fond remembrance of “Sean Connery”.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  76. Nobody should take a Trump critic’s complaint about prosecutorial abuse seriously.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67) — 10/31/2020 @ 12:27 pm

    LOL!

    Dustin (4237e0)

  77. Reminds me again of how the Republican party believes in Republicanism and not democracy.

    I don’t think it’s a republic vs. democracy issue. A pure democracy can easily implement policies that are very bad for any minority. A republic puts constitutional limits on what the majority may impose on the minority.

    What’s going on here is a cynical posture in which principles of procedure shift according to whether the majority of affected votes are expected to favor “our side” or “their side.” But it isn’t just a Republican thing. I remember when Democrat lawyers high-fived each other every time they could find an excuse to disqualify a military ballot, and Republicans were understandably outraged that Dems wanted to disenfranchise the people who were putting their lives on the line for the rest of us.

    People on the left don’t much like majority rule when the majority doesn’t agree with them. If a ballot initiative goes against them, they will shop around for a judge who agrees with them.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  78. Nobody should take a Trump critic’s complaint about prosecutorial abuse seriously.

    Trump fans have long been saying that anyone who criticizes Trump has no credibility on anything. Somehow, criticizing Trump is assumed to demonstrate a bias against Trump, while praising Trump endlessly demonstrates a clear-eyed view of Truth. It’s very weird.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  79. I saw the video, JVW. The vehicles were both in the same lane (can’t tell who was there first) when the larger truck initiated contact. It’s not clear to me what other purpose there is for Trump-emblazoned vehicles to be surrounding a campaign bus in transit. Any ideas?
    There’s also the group car-honking while Biden was talking, which is even more akin to SJW fascist tactics.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  80. Ross Douthat
    @DouthatNYT

    The last Argument before the election, with special guest
    @DavidAFrench

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/30/opinion/the-argument-trump-biden-election-secession.html#click=https://t.co/IHV9IU49kq
    __ _

    John Callaghan
    @NapaSwDev
    ·
    In the first half, French made a vital & eloquent plea to avoid imputing malign motives to one’s ideological opponents. Bravo!

    The second half featured all three of you imputing malign motives to Trump (“cruelty!”), with no hint of irony or shred of proof.

    Medice, cura te ipsum
    __

    harkin (e4086b)

  81. It’s a tough call on the Craig Bonds -and the last one hasn’t been released yet– but of what’s out now, my favorite of the group is Skyfall. As a youngster, I remember riding the Underground and those long, deep escalators down to the platforms– when the Victoria Line was new.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  82. Trump holds superspreader rallies so his cultists can cheer while he boasts about his malign motives.

    Dave (1bb933)

  83. It’s not clear to me what other purpose there is for Trump-emblazoned vehicles to be surrounding a campaign bus in transit. Any ideas?

    It’s all garbage trolling by the Trump folks, as is the childish disruptions of Biden rallies, but Texas Democrats’ claims that they were in grave danger are way overblown.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  84. It’s not clear to me what other purpose there is for Trump-emblazoned vehicles to be surrounding a campaign bus in transit. Any ideas?

    Amazing coordination for a long line of pro-Trump vehicles to converge and surround the Biden bus, eh Montagu? Or, maybe that’s not how it happened. But keep swallowing those media narratives whole.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  85. Trump holds superspreader rallies so his cultists can cheer while he boasts about his malign motives.

    And if there isn’t a big crowd, he gets mad and walks off early.

    It’s funny how the guy who supposedly identifies with the little people never wants to spend time actually talking with them. He reportedly said early in the COVID outbreak that it might be a good thing because then he wouldn’t have to shake hands with those “disgusting” people.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  86. HBO Max only seems to have two movies with Connery in them. One of them is The Wind and the Lion. It is amazing how the guy is so comfortable in all these completely different roles. One of a kind.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  87. This latest Lincoln Project ad has almost as much attitude as nk.

    (F-bomb warning)

    Dave (1bb933)

  88. A Republic may put constitutional limits on what a majority imposes on a minority, but what Republicans are now openly pushing for is an antidemocratic Republic that installs a minority into power as the leaders of the country. The goal is to block the majority from exercising governmental power, period.

    And if by “military ballots” you are referring to Florida 2000 then you’re talking about overseas ballots that arrive after the election incomplete. As I recall, some counties in 2000 counted them, after public pressure orchestrated by the Republicans, some didn’t. If there is going to be a policy that incomplete ballots are to be counted, regardless of when they come in, then fine, it would be nice if Republicans were willing to stick to it. But their whole effort in the last 20 years has been to put ever higher barriers on voting and counting ballots. If you want an example of opportunism, it was their sudden claim in 20000 that overseas ballots were special and should be counted even if similar domestic ballots weren’t.

    Right now, it’s not a question of a few hundred ballots being evaluated post election. It’s an effort to throw out 100,000 ballots before the election even though the voters relied in good faith on election officials when casting them. All, apparently, because they were handed over from a car.

    It’s not just politics as usual. It’s politics as abnormal by a party intent on winning by preventing anybody opposing them from voting.

    Victor (00af29)

  89. as is the childish disruptions of Biden rallies

    No such thing as a ‘Biden rally.’

    He held a wake in a Michigan parking lot today and there were literally more staffers and Secret Service agents there than Michigan voters when they panned the crowd.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  90. Biden’s been in government 47 years. Looking back on it, what the hell has he ever done for me in half a century?

    Nothing.

    Trump at least sent me a check.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  91. A neighbor reports that AG William Barr’s house in McLean is being picketed by Trump supporters who believe he’s not doing enough to lock up Joe Biden

    https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/status/1322644157937127426

    lol

    Davethulhu (5954b2)

  92. “Elections make people crazy”
    Which explains the vote for President-in-Waiting* Kamala Harris. To be fair, everyone here probably already knows how the host felt about her as AG State of CA.
    Of course, it’ll get twisted into another consequence of Trumps bad character… President Harris will be Trumps fault and Trump will be blamed by every nevertrumper who voted for mentally diminished Biden and instead got Kamala Harris.
    I dislike Harris so much that I’d vote for Trump even on an outside chance Biden won’t finish his term.

    I believe there is a very good chance Biden’s mental faculties won’t last two years. Biden can hide from sight for days during this election cycle, but how is he going to handle world affairs? Put a lid on it for a day or two while he is in Moscow or Beijing or Tehran? Foreign press and foreign leaders are not going to withhold the knife when it comes time to point out the obvious. There are several nations drooling at the chance to deal with President Harris (Iran, China) and their tell will be how fast and deep they sink the first shank into Joe’s diminished capacity.

    Its a foreign negotiators dream to get Biden as POTUS and that dream is only eclipsed by the chance to bumfuzzle genius Harris

    steveg (43b7a5)

  93. “The words of Mercury are hard after the songs of Apollo.” – Samson Shillitoe (Sean Connery), A Fine Madness

    A really fine Connery performance.

    Also recommended from his lesser-known films:

    Hell Drivers
    The Molly Maguires
    The Man Who Would Be King

    My Pop took me to a double feature of Thunderball and Goldfinger in 1965. Heaven.

    I still think the scene in Goldfinger at The Bank Of England is the closest the films ever got to the Bond of the Fleming novels. Brilliant.
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  94. Trump holds superspreader rallies so his cultists can cheer while he boasts about his malign motives.

    And if there isn’t a big crowd, he gets mad and walks off early.

    I read somewhere that he was mad about the cap on attendees, but the rally early to go speak to the thousands waiting outside who were unable to get into the rally. I’ll have to look for the link.

    Dana (6995e0)

  95. It’s politics as abnormal by a party intent on winning by preventing anybody opposing them from voting.

    I acknowledged earlier that the GOP today appears more intent in discouraging Dem-leaners from voting than on appealing to a broader share of the electorate, and I think this preceded Trump but has been intensified by Trump, with his open claims that the current election will certainly be fraudulent if he loses. I’m appalled that so many Republicans don’t find that a worrisome posture by a president. But framing the issue as “democracy” (good) vs. “republic” (bad) does not make a persuasive case.

    I also do not except that the electoral sins are all on the R. side while Dems are all honest servants of The People. After the 2000 fiasco, there was a Democratic lawyer boasting about how easy it had been for him to “turn” numerous close elections in recounts, and other people were noting a pattern where recounts somehow managed to flip an election from R to D much more often than the reverse. I don’t believe there’s some natural law dictating that additional boxes of ballots “found” during a recount will necessarily trend D. When the Gregoire-Rossi contest was going on, I found it curious that Gregoire appeared to assume that a second recount move further in her direction, not Rossi’s.

    I also remember the aftermath of the 1994 congressional elections, when The People democratically elected a Republican majority to the House for the first time in 40 years. The Democrats and most of the MSM treated this result as illegitimate, an outrage against democracy, a “tantrum” by voters acting like 2-year-olds who didn’t understand that Dems were supposed to control the legislature in perpetuity.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  96. Looks like its starting early. Trumpsters attack biden campaign bus armed trumpsters rammed it with a vehicle forcing cancellation of biden rally as police watch and do nothing. (msn.com) In north carolina’s alamance county so called law enforcement pepper sprayed participants (some as young as 5 years old) in a get out and vote rally to encourage voting evidently in an attempt to discourage black voting. (news&observer)

    asset (78b0da)

  97. Radegunda (20775b) — 10/31/2020 @ 1:27 pm

    Trump fans have long been saying that anyone who criticizes Trump has no credibility on anything.

    In my case it isn’t the criticism itself that I think undermines credibility. It’s the obligatory preface and epilogue detailing how whatever being discussed represents the worst most corrupt thing ever, even more corrupt and despicable than the last thing the person claimed was the worst ever. It’s also about the tendency to misrepresent facts. It doesn’t help that any challenge of the criticism results in personal attacks and more hyperbolic claims.

    frosty (f27e97)

  98. lmao at the moronic motivation of people to put a mask on when walking as a car goes by.
    What in heck is wrong with you people?

    mg (8cbc69)

  99. Trumpsters attack biden campaign bus armed trumpsters rammed it with a vehicle forcing cancellation of biden rally as police watch and do nothing.

    Except that’s not what happened. I guess you have eschewed reading the other five or six comments where this has been covered, but the Trump truck did not ram the Biden bus, it collided with a Biden staffer’s car which may have been in the wrong when trying to move into an already occupied traffic lane.

    Honestly, the Trump people do enough stupid stuff that you don’t need to embellish it with overheated rhetoric being served up by the DNC to gullible high-strong lefties who are willing to swallow whole anything they hear.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  100. mg (8cbc69) — 10/31/2020 @ 3:37 pm

    I routinely see people driving by themselves with a mask on.

    frosty (f27e97)

  101. “When Joe an Kamala are in the White House, you won’t have to think about them every day.” – Former President Obama, Detroit, MI, 10-31-20

    Leave it to a black man to tell you not to watch the hen house to see who is stealing the chickens.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  102. It doesn’t help that any challenge of the criticism results in personal attacks and more hyperbolic claims.

    Criticism of Trump often results in personal attacks against the critic, and that started during the 2015-16 primaries.
    A narrative was built early on in which only Trump could save America; only Trump spoke for Real Americans; anyone who didn’t like Trump was an agent of The Swamp; etc.

    And while it’s true that some claims about Trump have been hyperbolic (e.g. that he’s about to emerge as a new Hitler), it’s also true that Trump defenders have turned a blind eye to much that would provoke their outrage if it came from anyone but Trump, or at least from any Dem, and have kept insisting that all explicitly listed reasons for disapproval of Trump are never legitimate reasons but only excuses for some arbitrary or superficially based “hate,” or an elitist attack on “ordinary Americans.” (And BTW, I’m a lot more ordinary than some of the people who make that charge about elitism.)

    Radegunda (20775b)

  103. Honestly, the Trump people do enough stupid stuff that you don’t need to embellish it with overheated rhetoric being served up by the DNC to gullible high-strong lefties

    That’s true.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  104. Radegunda (20775b) — 10/31/2020 @ 3:52 pm

    You could have saved a lot of time by just replying with “what about Trump supporters”.

    frosty (f27e97)

  105. It’s also about the tendency to misrepresent facts

    I remember being attacked for quoting Trump on other sites.
    And it always amuses me when Trump defenders complain that Trump critics “misrepresent facts,” while they themselves wave away Trump’s very numerous lies and fabrications as nothing worse than “exaggeration.”

    Or when they act offended that someone not-Trump has been “mean” or “rude,” while Trump’s own rudeness and callousness and selfishness are painted as either strengths or totally irrelevant.

    And so on.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  106. You could have saved a lot of time by just replying with “what about Trump supporters”.

    So you’re criticizing me for not be as glib and thoughtless as you apparently imagine Trump critics to be.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  107. Just took my niece around the neighborhood for the early ‘very young kids’ round of trick or treating in Sandy UT.

    Highlight besides hundreds of cute happy kids was the Delta flight attendant down the street handing out Biscoff 2-packs.
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  108. 108.Just took my niece around the neighborhood for the early ‘very young kids’ round of trick or treating in Sandy UT.

    AKA a super-spreader event.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  109. “ Except that’s not what happened. I guess you have eschewed reading the other five or six comments where this has been covered, but the Trump truck did not ram the Biden bus….”
    _

    Probably got it from Jake Tapper.
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  110. “AKA a super-spreader event.“
    _

    Masks everywhere, they actually put my CA neighborhood to shame as far as masks and social distancing. The soccer game this morning was exactly the same.
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  111. “….you don’t need to embellish it with overheated rhetoric being served up by the DNC to gullible high-strung lefties who are willing to swallow whole anything they hear.“
    __

    Redundant.

    Coulda added Never-Trumpers though. They were serving it up with ladles earlier.
    _

    harkin (e4086b)

  112. Yeah, like Trump-humping rednecks in pickup trucks are ever going to tell the truth about a side-swipe. With Biden people or anybody else. Those [people that Senator Byrd knew a lot of in his time] learn how to lie from the cradle, so they’ll be ready when the sheriff asks them where they got those chickens.

    The way I see it, the white SUV was already legally in the right lane. The black Trumpkin pickup came up to its right on the shoulder, illegally, and forced it to the middle lane. If you angle the Trump-humping cell phone from the rear just right, you can hide the shoulder-riding and make it look like the white SUV was trying to force its way to where the black pickup was.

    nk (1d9030)

  113. @111. Doesn’t matter- the bug clings to candy wrappers.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  114. Given the sideswipe scams the “DP’s” used to run in parts of Chicago, this might be a similar operation.

    urbanleftbehind (17da92)

  115. Those three dozen pickup trucks with Trump flags were just minding their own business, driving peacefully down the highway, on their way to support their home team in the mechanical bull-riding contest at Bug Tussle, when that white SUV came along and started to make trouble, urbanleftbehind.

    nk (1d9030)

  116. I also remember the aftermath of the 1994 congressional elections, when The People democratically elected a Republican majority to the House for the first time in 40 years. The Democrats and most of the MSM treated this result as illegitimate, an outrage against democracy, a “tantrum” by voters acting like 2-year-olds who didn’t understand that Dems were supposed to control the legislature in perpetuity.

    1. 1994 is 26 years ago.

    2. And yet I was alive at the time and I don’t recall anybody claiming that the result was antidemocratic in the sense that the elections were rigged or votes suppressed.

    3. As for Washington’s elections, where I live, and where counting ballots can go on for weeks but somehow we all still survive, as I recall the Gregoire /Rossi contest did go to the courts, ballots were examined and if there were serious claims of fraud they’d have been examined by a court. And yet, other than dark mutterings, I’ve nver heard exactly how Gregoire stole that election.

    What we are seeing right now in Texas is the Republicans asking a Republican appointed judge with a reputation for favoring Republicans to throw out 100,000 votes immediately before the election (and note it’s immediately before because plaintiffs waited strategically to make their objection) on grounds that don’t even amount to a technicality.

    I don’t speak conservative. IS that an example of judicial activism?

    Victor (00af29)

  117. Trump at least sent me a check.

    You and Stormy both!

    Dave (1bb933)

  118. …but Texas Democrats’ claims that they were in grave danger are way overblown.

    I’m not saying “grave danger”, JVW, but there are multi-sourced accounts that trucks with Trump flags and bumper stickers tried to force a Biden-Harris bus to pull over. I call that a fascist act.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  119. Or, maybe that’s not how it happened. But keep swallowing those media narratives whole.
    I’ll take your reply as a non-reply, beer. It’s a problem political activists attempt to cause the bus of their political opponents to pull over. It’s fascist. Don’t support fascists, beer, support freedom of movement and support a candidate’s freedom to say something without getting drowned out by horns. This really is no different from liberal whackjobs shouting down Ben Shapiro in a college concert hall.

    Paul Montagu (cbbfc4)

  120. Now this is overblown:

    “Three Trump supporters have been executed, one in Portland, one in Denver, and one Milwaukee. A leftist mob attempted to storm the house of the McCloskeys, threatened to burn their house down, rape Mrs. McCloskey, and then kill them both.

    Where is the liberal corporate media’s concern about that real violence? Additionally, none of what your question implies is accurate. It is more fake news and propaganda.

    Prepare to lose…stop bothering me. Maybe Soros can cut y’all another check in 2022.”

    Statement Regarding ‘Biden Bus’ Incident

    Davethulhu (5954b2)

  121. “ “Regardless of the outcome of [Tuesday’s] election, our concerns range from isolated violent incidents to a long stretch of mass protests, confrontations between extremists, and potential property damage,” it continued.

    So the management says they’re hiring extra guards to patrol the area. And insiders tell us that they’ll be carrying guns.
    Other current and former residents of the building — where a four-bedroom apartment is currently on the market for $7.5million, and a two-bedroom is available for rent for $7,800-a-month — include Chelsea Clinton, Malcolm Gladwell, Bill Hader, Annie Leibovitz, Bridget Moynahan, tennis star Milos Raonic, iHeartRadio podcaster Rob Shuter and his Grammy-winning husband Bruce Sussman.

    Said a resident, “It’s all a little much but this is Chelsea and with The Eagle leather bar closed due to the pandemic, no one is going to complain about seeing guys in uniform with a big gun!”

    The residents of London Terrace aren’t the only ones battoning down the hatches. The Post’s Jennifer Gould reported on Wednesday that the city’s “ultra rich are quietly preparing for civil unrest on Election Day — by hiring armed guards to stand watch over their luxury Manhattan buildings.”

    https://pagesix.com/2020/10/31/celeb-packed-apartments-to-be-protected-by-armed-guards-on-election-day/
    __ _

    harkin (e4086b)

  122. Said a resident, “It’s all a little much but this is Chelsea and with The Eagle leather bar closed due to the pandemic, no one is going to complain about seeing guys in uniform with a big gun!”

    Okay, that’s funny.

    nk (1d9030)

  123. Davethulhu (5954b2) — 10/31/2020 @ 6:36 pm

    Allen West makes some compelling points.

    frosty (f27e97)

  124. “Allen West makes some compelling points.”

    Allen West is a war criminal, and his press release is unhinged.

    Davethulhu (5954b2)

  125. I don’t recall anybody claiming that the result was antidemocratic in the sense that the elections were rigged or votes suppressed

    That wasn’t my point. It was the widespread, vocal belief among Democrats in media and academia etc. that the voters were very, very wrong to have voted as they did. There’s also the “what’s wrong with Kansas” school of thought, holding that people who aren’t rich and yet vote GOP simply don’t know their own interest, and someone needs to teach them. Doubly so for any black or Latino person who votes Republican. Though R’s have also asserted that certain demographics hurt themselves by voting D.

    IS that an example of judicial activism?

    Yes, and I’m not defending it. I’ve been disappointed (to say the least) in a lot of GOP actions lately. My argument is that Dems are not without sin — nor is it the case that Rs are all either greedy heartless fascist criminals or gap-toothed hillbillies.

    Again, I think it’s far better to have a message and platform that are widely appealing, than to discourage voting by the other side.
    But I think the electoral strategy of saying “if you vote for us, we’ll give you more stuff and make those other people pay for it” is unhealthy for a polity in the long run. And I think Dams have relied too much on the strategy of changing the electorate itself when the existing electorate might go against them. (There’s also the long-running, concerted efforts to eliminate conservative perspectives from educational institutions.)

    Radegunda (20775b)

  126. Davethulhu (5954b2) — 10/31/2020 @ 6:53 pm

    Allen West is a war criminal

    Now that is overblown.

    frosty (f27e97)

  127. “Now that is overblown.”

    MIn 2003, West was charged in an incident that involved the beating and simulated execution of an Iraqi policeman, with West firing a gun near the Iraqi man’s head during an interrogation.

    Definition of a war crime.

    Davethulhu (5954b2)

  128. I didn’t even know he was still à la mode.

    nk (1d9030)

  129. In his woderful book Story, Robert McKee compares the Rambo films to the Bond films. He writes that the problem with Rambo is that he’s a one dimensional character. He’s a loner, a highly trained veteran, probably suffering from PTSD, then something happens, and he becomes a killing machine. Once that happens, there’s no going back. There is no depth to the character. He becomes a killing machine, and that’s it. There is nowhere else to go with the story.

    Bond, however, is a much more complex character. He’s urbane, sophisticated, a lover, a fighter, and a gambler. And he’s always well dressed.

    That’s why the Rambo series only lasted for five films, while the Bond series has lasted for 25 films. There’s so much more to do with the Bond character.

    I read Ian Fleming’s books and have watched all of the Bond films. Did you know that Ian Fleming actually organized a commando unit called 30 Assault in WW II for British naval intelligence? Fleming refused to call it an assault unit because the members rarely exceeded 160, whereas an actual assault unit comprised over 600. He was the original “M,” and one of the founders of MI6. That’s what he based the Bond books on.

    Sean Connery will always be the best James Bond. He was the first, and he defined the character. David Niven also played Bond in the original Casino Royale, but that was a comedy, a satire of the Bond films. George Lazenby gave perhaps the most accurate portrayal of Bond in On Her Majesty’s Secret Service. I never much cared for the Roger Moore Bond films, although Paul McCartney’s theme song for Live and Let Die was brilliant in its composition. I thought Timothy Dalton was a better Bond, but Pierce Brosnan exceeded him. The thing about the Daniel Craig films is that they recreated the character, casting him as an orphaned, troubled youth recruited by MI6. M was as his foster mother. That was not the Bond Fleming wrote about, but it worked. Those are good films.

    The thing about the Bond franchise is they take the title of a book, then change the story completely. The best of the Connery Bond movies were, in my opinion, were From Russia With Love, Goldfinger, Thunderball, and Diamonds Are Forever. The latter because Jill St. John was the hottest Bond girl ever. What a woman, although Sophie Marceau comes in as a close second.

    But Sean Connery did not was to be stereotyped as James Bond. It was too limiting to him as an actor, and he was a very good actor. Zardoz was a weird film, but he was experimenting. My favorite of his non-Bond films is The Man Who Would Be King. That is when I think he finally escaped the Bond stereotype.

    Connery appeared in numerous other films, because he was an actor. He will be missed. But he will always be James Bond to me.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  130. Davethulhu (5954b2) — 10/31/2020 @ 7:28 pm

    Charged but not convicted correct? Sounds like he has expressed remorse and is now a productive citizen.

    frosty (f27e97)

  131. @118. Which is still more than JoeyBee or Hunter ever did.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  132. Okay, re my comments 113 and 116, Patterico’s Twitter shows the black pickup truck legally in the right lane behind the bus and the white SUV drifting into it from the middle lane. Always Trust Content From Patterico! Sorry, I don’t know how to link the individual tweet, just go to Patterico’s Twitter and scroll down.

    This is a correction, not an apology, BTW. I don’t know the backstory.

    nk (1d9030)

  133. Meh. Prediction stands; Trump squeaks out a win w/up to 3% or it’s a President Harris in 24 months. Old Man Winter arrives on December 21st; Ol’man Biden turns 78 years old in just 20 days.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  134. Which is still more than JoeyBee or Hunter ever did.

    Well sure, but they didn’t get sexual favors or what remains of your soul in return, either.

    Dave (1bb933)

  135. Trump Tweets Support for Fans Who Swarmed Biden Bus: ‘I LOVE TEXAS!’
    President Donald Trump tweeted in support of a viral video of his fans swarming one of Joe Biden’s campaign buses, forcing Democrats to cancel several rallies in Austin, Texas.

    On Tuesday night, Trump tweeted out the video with the caption “I LOVE TEXAS!” His post came right before his fourth rally of the day in Pennsylvania.

    The campaign bus, which was blocked in by Trump supporters on a Texas highway, reportedly carried congressional candidates Wendy Davis and Roland Gutierrez, and Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-TX).
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  136. I talked with sister who regularly deals with the FDA in her work. She’s always been Republican, not thrilled about Biden/Harris at all. But she’s alarmed by how Trump is commandeering the FDA and the CDC, to control what they can say publicly, and she thinks he’s done an abysmal job of handling Covid.

    Republicans may be mostly correct in criticizing the permanent, unaccountable bureaucracy that goes its own way and undermines the agenda of elected officials. But there’s also a problem when a chief executive as self-centered as Trump wants the agencies to serve his interests first and foremost.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  137. Rip Murdock (676dac) — 10/31/2020 @ 8:21 pm

    That sounded like a catchy video but it was too short. They were welcoming them to TX complete with a soundtrack.

    frosty (f27e97)

  138. Trump’s $200 drug cards for seniors remain in limbo
    President Donald Trump’s plan to distribute $200 drug-discount cards to all Medicare recipients remains in limbo after officials missed an earlier goal of sending out millions of announcement letters and even some cards by Election Day, said three officials with knowledge of the plan.
    ………
    The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which would administer the program, did not respond to a request for comment. CMS Administrator Seema Verma had urged staff to finalize the plan before the election, two officials said.

    A White House official said the plan, which Trump abruptly unveiled last month, is being voluntarily delayed until after Election Day to dispel the perception that it was politically motivated.
    ………
    Promises made, promises broken. The idea that this electoral bribe isn’t politically motivated is laughable. If Trump loses it will be dropped like a hot potato.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  139. I am having trouble equating partisans stating that those voting for the other party are wrong and should have voted otherwise, with political parties actively attempting to throw out thousands of votes.

    It points out a larger issue. Conservatives seem to equate being criticized with being canceled or silenced or seriously attacked. I think the voters in 1994 (and 2010) made a big mistake. That doesn’t mean I think the elections were illegitimate. It doesn’t particularly bother me when conservatives argue that my votes are against my real interests (in morality? Low taxes? American values of some sort or another?). I just think they aren’t particularly good at identifying my real interests.

    Victor (00af29)

  140. Radegunda (20775b) — 10/31/2020 @ 6:57 pm

    You must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

    qdpsteve (8d496a)

  141. @135. As a Presbyterian; ask any Catholic: we have no soul. ;-).

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  142. You must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
    qdpsteve (8d496a) — 10/31/2020 @ 9:27 pm

    Wow, powerful counterargument.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  143. L’amour de Trump a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point, Radegunda.

    nk (1d9030)

  144. I am having trouble equating partisans stating that those voting for the other party are wrong and should have voted otherwise, with political parties actively attempting to throw out thousands of votes

    I wasn’t making that equation. Nor did I defend attempting to throw out ballots. I simply meant that people on the left have had their own issues with democracy, and surely have also taken questionable steps to weigh the scales in their favor.
    One reason I began identifying as conservative in my politically formative years was because I noticed how people who called themselves “liberal” or leftist tended to have a rosy view of the “Democratic People’s Republics” where there were either no elections or sham elections, and where the ruling party claimed to speak for “the people” over whom they exercised tight control, sometimes brutally enforced. It’s still not common for Hollywood to release any films that highlight the cruelties of communist regimes.

    Today there are people who call themselves liberal who believe that policy should mostly be made by bureaucrats who think like themselves, not by anyone who’s accountable to voters, because voters sometimes strongly disagree with them. There are also people on the left who claim that “liberty” is just code for greed or white supremacy.

    Conservatives seem to equate being criticized with being canceled or silenced or seriously attacked.

    Some do. But there have been plenty of cases where conservative speakers were shouted down or even physically attacked on college campuses, by people who undoubtedly consider themselves tolerant and liberal. People have lost jobs because of relatively anodyne comments that someone declared offensive. Recently a university instructor was either suspended or fired because he was teaching people a commonplace Chinese term that sounds like an English-language racial slur.
    The woke mobs have been getting more virulent, partly because the dominant ideology on campuses promotes an expansive understanding of “hate speech” and a dim view of free speech in principle. The organization called FIRE (whose president is actually a liberal politically) has no shortage of work defending people who are punished for expressing their opinions, or accidentally offending someone whose sense of righteousness hangs of finding offense.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  145. #144, I’ve noticed that too.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  146. Ask yourself this: Can the country survive 4 years of a mediocre Democrat as president. If it can, then ask yourself, can the country survive 4 more years of Donald Trump’s chaos?

    Maybe both are bad, but Biden is at least predictable. Trump doesn’t know if he wants to go fishing or attack Mexico.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  147. And now in Texas,

    * Harris county decided to allow large scale drive-through voting
    * The TX Secretary of State, a Republican, ok’d it
    * The TX SCOTUS allowed it
    * A federal judge is holding a hearing on a motion to stop it and THROW OUT THE 110K BALLOTS CAST BY VOTERS WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE FOLLOWING THE LAW

    The lawsuit is being brought by, among other people, a Republican Congressional candidate.

    This isn’t about defending the constitution. It’s about suppressing votes.

    Any judge who signs on to this should be impeached.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  148. Candidate wendy davis was on biden campaign bus attacked by armed trumpeters. Since they believe in gun con control they were un-armed and couldn’t shoot back.

    asset (458728)

  149. More on the GOP voter-suppression effort in TX:

    Court fight over Harris County drive-thru votes raises alarm

    This might be important:

    However, it takes only one justice on the nine-member court to request a response to a petition, and there is no way of knowing how many justices were interested in Harris County’s response because the court does not disclose that information.

    Dave (1bb933)

  150. Dave, that’s the state case. I’m responding to the corresponding federal case.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  151. Yikes aphrael. Talk about a full-court press.

    Dave (1bb933)

  152. Dave: i’m furious. They had *weeks* to bring this case, but they waited until after more than a hundred thousand people had voted this way, and are now seeking to invalidate the votes of citizens who did nothing wrong except believe their county elections office’s instructions.

    Same thing in MN, where the state agreed to extend the ballot deadline via a consent decree *in July* and they waited to bring the case until now.

    These lawsuits were not brought in good faith. If they *had been* they would have been brought weeks ago.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  153. This isn’t about defending the constitution. It’s about suppressing votes.

    I hear that the new suit is as-applied. They allege that Harris County put their drive through centers in heavily Democratic neighborhoods, and if so, there is an attempt at vote-enabling favored persons which is pretty much the same as suppressing others.

    You can have something that is legal as approved and illegal as applied.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  154. I don’t think it is generally a good idea to have voting easier in parts of a state and it gives different areas more weight in casting their votes. Sure, it’s late to bring this up, but Harris County is the only one with this kind of arrangement and as I understand it the main complaint comes from a Congressional candidate whose chances decrease with overweighted participation in that part of his district.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  155. Shorter: Democrats can be just as dirty players as Republicans. They proved that in Orange County, CA with their suddenly-legal ballot harvesting in 2018.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  156. The (alleged) location of the curbside voting locations to favor Democrats is a very minor part of the federal lawsuit. A map is mentioned as an exhibit, but there is no quantitative claim about the distances or driving times, so really it looks like just throwing more sh*t at the wall to see if any will stick.

    Given that the most densely populated areas tend to be more Democrat, and government facilities tend to be centrally located for reasons of efficiency, it’s very likely a red herring.

    Dave (1bb933)

  157. They proved that in Orange County, CA with their suddenly-legal ballot harvesting in 2018.

    LOL.

    Right, because lawfully delivering a voter’s sealed ballot with their consent is exactly like disenfranchising voters who were (truthfully) told by state authorities and courts that they were using a lawful method of voting.

    Dave (1bb933)

  158. > You can have something that is legal as approved and illegal as applied.

    Sure. That’s always true.

    But the remedy *cannot* be to invalidate the votes of a hundred thousand people who did nothing wrong except believe their county elections department. Find some way to sanction the elections officers. Don’t deny innocent voters their right to vote.

    > Sure, it’s late to bring this up, but Harris County is the only one with this kind of arrangement and as I understand it the main complaint comes from a Congressional candidate whose chances decrease with overweighted participation in that part of his district.

    And he had weeks to bring the suit and chose to wait until after a huge number of his constituents had voted *and* could not reasonably have time to be informed of a need to cure and gone ahead with the cure — the earliest this could be decided is Monday, and there’s no way all of these people can be informed they need to go into the polling place and vote again in time for them all to do so.

    He made a choice to bring the lawsuit at a time where the most likely effect of him winning would be to disenfranchise a hundred thousand people.

    This wasn’t good faith. And in my view it shows him unfit for public office of any kind.

    aphrael (4c4719)

  159. Trump killing it in Iowa, Florida and Pennsylvania
    never trumpers been reading the polls that have added hamburger helper to entice the spewing bull schiff.
    lmao

    mg (8cbc69)

  160. 44.

    Favorite Sean Connery movies, not including his most famous ones (Bond, Untouchables, etc.)

    Darby O’Gill and the Little People, if only for this (though the whole movie’s great).

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  161. The new season of “The Mandalorian” is even more poorly written, acted, and directed and, if possible, more boring, than the first. What a dull, tedious, soap opera and I don’t mean space opera. Things were better under the Empire.

    nk (1d9030)

  162. Alas, the bat signal/conscience clearer has been delivered to the in-crowd (read further within the article):

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/11/01/snl-john-mulaney-sends-up-times-square-mascots-election-snl/6111543002/

    urbanleftbehind (32ae21)

  163. [S]ome of the Mexican president’s supporters are pulling for an unlikely candidate in the upcoming US election: Donald Trump.

    I am pretty sure that Biden will care far more about the upper-middle-class’s “inclusionist” values than any dirty working-class objection to open borders.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  164. Things were better under the Empire.

    The Empire was death on slavery, unlike the Old Republic which tolerated it. Just ask Anakin.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  165. More fascism…

    It’s come to this: A neighbor reports that AG William Barr’s house in McLean is being picketed by Trump supporters who believe he’s not doing enough to lock up Joe Biden.

    I’m using the F-word because they went to his house, just like what the worst of the wokes and SJWs do.

    Paul Montagu (77c694)

  166. I was thinking of better shows, and Darth Vader in particular, but yes, definitely, the canon was better too. 😉

    nk (1d9030)

  167. Favorite Sean Connery movies, not including his most famous ones (Bond, Untouchables, etc.)

    Not sure about favorites, but he’s good in The Hunt for Red October and Time Bandits. Wrong is Right was a fine prediction, too. There’s also High Moon urr Outland

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  168. Connery had ethnic range in terms of looks…a modern day clone could portray Gen. Suleimani.

    urbanleftbehind (32ae21)

  169. I’m using the F-word because they went to his house, just like what the worst of the wokes and SJWs do.

    Oh, but it’s only bad when the other side does it. Trumpsters have made it very clear that they believe the rules they apply to others should never be used against Trump. So it follows that anyone who acts in the service of Trump gets the same indulgence.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  170. I’m using the F-word because they went to his house, just like what the worst of the wokes and SJWs do.

    “It’s an idea, not an organization.”

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  171. An “idea” violently attacked Trump supporters in Beverly Hills yesterday and Montagu is at a loss for the F* word.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  172. Kyle Rittenhouse cried, vomited and worried about social media as he told Antioch cops, ‘I shot two white kids’
    ……..
    Rittenhouse, 17, and his mother appeared in the lobby of the Antioch police station around 1:20 a.m. Aug. 26, just hours after prosecutors say the teenager shot three men with an AR-15-style rifle, killing two of them. Police reports show Rittenhouse repeatedly acknowledged his role in the shooting during his conversations with officers, though he insisted he had been protecting himself.
    ……..
    The teen told officers that he had been hit in his lower neck and head with a baseball bat and a skateboard before firing his weapon, according to the police report………

    Antioch officers noted small scratches on Rittenhouse’s arms when he turned himself in, but he did not have any cuts or bruises, a police report states. Paramedics, however, were twice called to the police department to treat him.
    “As I stayed with Kyle, I observed him exhibit several different emotions,” Antioch Officer Kourtney Nemec wrote in her report. “I observed Kyle to appear calm, then burst into crying fits, and then calm down again. Every once in a while, I observed Kyle to throw up. I noticed a pattern to his behavior for over an hour with him calming down, crying, calming down again and then throwing up.”

    While waiting for Kenosha detectives to arrive, Rittenhouse repeatedly asked to speak with his sisters and an 18-year-old friend who were back at the family’s apartment. …….
    ………

    “When they spoke the conversation turned into the family discussing the negative comments about Kyle on social media, which caused Kyle to become upset,” Nemec wrote. “I requested Kyle to stop speaking with his sisters and (friend) as this was causing him to become upset and again made him cry. Kyle continued to talk about him being on social media and then briefly showed me from his phone a picture of him with the AR-rifle at the Kenosha riots from earlier in the evening.”

    Police confiscated Rittenhouse’s assault weapon from the friend’s trunk a short time later, along with another AR-15 rifle the friend said he carried that night in Kenosha, according to reports. ……

    The friend later was questioned by Kenosha detectives at the Antioch police station, where he said he bought the weapon for Rittenhouse earlier this year so the two could hunt together, according to the reports. The friend told police he purchased the gun in his name at a hardware store in northern Wisconsin, but Rittenhouse paid for it.
    The friend kept Rittenhouse’s rifle at his stepfather’s house in Kenosha, and the two picked it up before heading to protests, according to the reports. The friend told police that he wished he would have stopped Rittenhouse from taking the gun that night, records show.
    ………
    The reports indicate the friend also worried the he could be held responsible for the shootings.

    ……..” He told Kyle that he (Rittenhouse) was defending himself and said he told Kyle, ‘In all reality, you are not supposed to have the gun. That gun was in my name.’”
    ………

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  173. Ad says that Biden eulogized Robert Byrd, a KKK “Grand Wizard.” This is fact-checked by all the notables:

    * Biden did not eulogize former KKK “grand wizard” – Associated Press
    * “Does This Photo Show Joe Biden with the ‘Grand Wizard of the KKK’?” asks Snopes?
    * Fact Check: Joe Biden Did NOT Campaign With Grand Wizard of KKK | Lead Stories
    * Fact check: Robert Byrd, eulogized by Joe Biden at funeral, was not KKK Grand Wizard – Reuters
    * Fact check: Biden isn’t with KKK grand wizard in photo – USA Today

    And of course they are right, Byrd was an “Exalted Cyclops”, not a “Grand Wizard.” Some might not care about the difference. But you’d never see that from the headlines. That they then call the ad “misleading” is a bit off-putting.

    https://pjmedia.com/election/victoria-taft/2020/10/31/desperate-fact-checkers-line-up-to-help-biden-he-eulogized-a-kkk-exalted-cyclops-not-a-grand-wizard-n1111899

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  174. Oh, yeah, and if you’re musing between Hulu and another streaming service, go with the other streaming service. The dweebweasels moved “Penguins of Madagascar” from the mid-level no-ads service to the premium + live TV plan right in the middle of an episode I was watching. A 15-minute episode! The show wouldn’t load and I thought my internet was throttling. Capitalist bloodsuckers! As soon as they think they’ve got you hooked ….

    nk (1d9030)

  175. thats some dirty pool right there mr nk

    Dave (1bb933)

  176. I keep trying Hulu for the old TV shows and keep coming away underwhelmed. The best streaming service I’ve found is YouTubeTV.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  177. And more examples of what Trump is and how his enablers help him – If he says doctors profit from Covid, why then we have to line up and agree that doctors are inflating Covid deaths for profit:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/01/doctors-profit-coronavirus-deaths-trump-miller-433793

    Victor (00af29)

  178. Worse than Trump on Covid:

    Chicago spends $1.7 million per patient treated on emergency Covid hospital, with the contracts all going to the same mob as usual. Former Mayor Daley involved.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  179. Can we have a pool on when the political emails stop? I’m figuring they may even go up if the election is contested.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  180. An “idea” violently attacked Trump supporters in Beverly Hills yesterday and Montagu is at a loss for the F* word.

    That’s classy, beer, criticizing me for something I didn’t know about until you brought it up. Whichever person initiates violence or damages property is no longer a protester and becomes a criminal. One standard, you know.

    Paul Montagu (77c694)

  181. Can we have a pool on when the political emails stop? I’m figuring they may even go up if the election is contested.

    Put me down for the over, whatever it is:

    Trump may just keep campaigning after Election Day

    Top surrogates for the Trump campaign have been told to keep their Novembers clear for potential campaign events. And Trump campaign advisers said not to rule out the possibility Trump continues his rallies even as election officials continue to count ballots after the Nov. 3 election, according to a campaign surrogate and two Trump advisers.

    With the possibility that there might not be a clear winner on election night in key swing states like Pennsylvania and North Carolina, the campaign has discussed putting Trump and his family on the road to give a morale boost to supporters and let the president fire off about the election to crowds.

    “Don’t miscount the fact that Trump will continue to do rallies while they’re still counting votes,” said one adviser to the Trump campaign.

    Maximizing the death toll means super-spreaders all the way down.

    Dave (1bb933)

  182. That’s classy, beer, criticizing me for something I didn’t know about until you brought it up.

    Maybe ask yourself why you didn’t know about it, Montagu. Probably the same reason why you got the details of the Texas incident wrong.

    Maybe after four years you’re drunk on media narratives.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  183. Put me down for the over, whatever it is

    It could be argued that this is Year 6 of the 2016 campaign. On both sides.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  184. Maybe ask yourself why you didn’t know about it, Montagu.

    Your unsolicited “advice” is weighed accordingly, beer. I already knew that BHPD were going to shut down Rodeo Drive on the eve of the election. I don’t follow the details of every protest involving Trump sniffers and Antifa.

    Paul Montagu (77c694)

  185. One thing that may curb Trump’s efforts to infect his supporters is lack of money.

    If the national election outcome looks much closer than the polls suggest, he might be able to raise more money after Election Day (and he will try for sure).

    But if he loses the popular vote by 7+ points and needs to overturn the outcome in multiple states to reach 270, I doubt many people will be writing checks to a clear loser.

    More likely, he will fraudulently pretend his own campaign events are official appearances and make the treasury pay for them. Once a grifter, always a grifter.

    Bonus points for pardoning himself and his aides afterward.

    Dave (1bb933)

  186. News staff snowflake eruption in 3, 2, 1….

    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Endorses First Republican in 48 Years

    But the Biden-Harris ticket offers us higher taxes and a nanny state that will bow to the bullies and the woke who would tear down history rather than learning from history and building up the country.

    It offers an end to fracking and other Cuckoo California dreams that will cost the economy and the people who most need work right now. “Good-paying green jobs” are probably not jobs for Pittsburgh, or Cleveland, or Toledo, or Youngstown.

    This newspaper has not supported a Republican for president since 1972. But we believe Mr. Trump, for all his faults, is the better choice this year. We respect and understand those who feel otherwise. We wish that we could be more enthusiastic and we hope the president can become more dignified and statesmanlike. Each American must make up his or her own mind and do what he or she thinks is best for the community and the republic. Vote your conscience. And, whatever happens, believe in the country.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  187. @183 – Trump’s accusation against doctors shows us (once again) his own selfish, opportunistic way of thinking. Or as Dave puts, it, every Trump accusation is a confession. And it’s the only way that Trump ever confesses.
    He started with a germ of fact concerning reimbursement rates, and twisted it into a slander against people who put their lives at risk in an effort to save others. It’s vile, like so many other public pronouncements from Trump. And somehow it doesn’t offend the people who complain that others are lying or “misrepresenting facts” just to hurt Trump.

    Earlier I mentioned my sister’s alarm at how Trump is controlling what the FDA and the CDC can say, to serve his political purposes. She didn’t see that happening under Obama or Bush.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  188. Given that the most densely populated areas tend to be more Democrat, and government facilities tend to be centrally located for reasons of efficiency, it’s very likely a red herring.

    The original suit was by the state party, the recent suit was by an affected candidate. They both may well be without merit, but it’s not a question of two bites at the same apple. The new guy seems to have a different case and was not a party to the first one.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  189. government facilities tend to be centrally located for reasons of efficiency

    Neither of those, in my experience. And certainly not for convenience.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  190. Right, because lawfully delivering a voter’s sealed ballot with their consent is exactly like disenfranchising voters who were (truthfully) told by state authorities and courts that they were using a lawful method of voting.

    Six months before the election it was a felony. Then the law changed and only the (supermajority) Democrats were aware of just what was going on.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  191. This wasn’t good faith. And in my view it shows him unfit for public office of any kind.

    You have an amazingly high expectation of public officials. I fear you will be disappointed far more often than I will be.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  192. Trump yesterday at a super-spreader in Reading:

    “If we win on Tuesday or — thank you very much, Supreme Court — shortly thereafter…”

    Dave (1bb933)

  193. Maybe ask yourself why you didn’t know about it, Montagu.
    Your unsolicited “advice” is weighed accordingly, beer.

    That’s funny, because beer tried that same ridiculous moralizing attack on me awhile back, implying that I had committed a sin against truth and justice by not assiduously following a story about NASCAR after it first appeared prominently in the news, or not reading exactly the same sources and perspectives he had seen. It was bizarre.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  194. The standard for impeaching judges is “good behaviour”, not high crimes and misdemeanors, and it will solve the court-packing debate, too.

    nk (1d9030)

  195. Then the law changed and only the (supermajority) Democrats were aware of just what was going on.

    It’s hard to believe you could write this with a straight face.

    Your defense of the CA GOP is that they’re mush-brained incompetents?

    Dave (1bb933)

  196. The standard for impeaching judges is “good behaviour”, not high crimes and misdemeanors, and it will solve the court-packing debate, too.

    It’s also long agreed (circa 1800) that political differences are not impeachable.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  197. Your defense of the CA GOP is that they’re mush-brained incompetents?

    It’s true, why not use it. Not the candidates, perhaps, but the party apparatchiks.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  198. But more accurately, the people who create the laws and get them passed with only token opposition have an edge in understanding what they mean. They can even plan their operation months before the law passes, catching their opponents flat-footed.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  199. “That’s funny, because beer tried that same ridiculous moralizing attack on me awhile back, implying that I had committed a sin against truth and justice by not assiduously following a story about NASCAR after it first appeared prominently in the news, or not reading exactly the same sources and perspectives he had seen. It was bizarre.”

    You’ll also notice that he didn’t provide a link to the story

    Davethulhu (284dab)

  200. Now Trump and his henchmen are saying that votes counted after November 3 (not cast after November 3, or postmarked after November 3, or received after November 3…counted) are invalid:

    For weeks, President Trump and his allies have been laying groundwork to challenge the results of the election if he loses. Now, they have settled on a clearly ahistoric closing argument: that ballots should not be counted past election night.

    Mr. Trump said recently that votes should be “counted, tabulated, finished by the evening of Nov. 3,” which is not possible and never has been. No state ever reports final results on election night, and no state is legally expected to.

    On Sunday, Jason Miller, a senior adviser to the Trump campaign, made a remarkably blunt version of the same argument.

    “If you speak with many smart Democrats, they believe that President Trump will be ahead on election night, probably getting 280 electoral, somewhere in that range,” Mr. Miller said on ABC. “And then they’re going to try to steal it back after the election.”

    Dave (1bb933)

  201. News item:

    Trump concedes Tuesday’s election Sunday night. “Meliana an I decided that we ought to get a jump on traffic out of DC, so we’re conceding and we’ll let Pence deal with the transition. We’ve decided to take a trip overseas and I need to go to the bank home and pack.”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  202. Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Endorses First Republican in 48 Years

    Actually: “A pro-Trump editor took over in 2018; also fired one of the paper’s cartoonists for being critical of Trump.”

    Of course, Trump makes it very clear that he regards anything critical of himself as “fake news.”
    He spent a large part of one Covid task-force meeting complaining that someone on Fox said something unflattering about him and trying to get someone in the room to go over to Fox and “fix the problem.”

    Radegunda (20775b)

  203. “You’ll also notice that he didn’t provide a link to the story”

    Oh my, that burned.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8901663/Election-clashes-erupt-Violence-Beverly-Hills-arrests-North-Carolina.html

    At around 2.30pm, video from the scene shows black-clad Antifa supporters attacking a participant in the ‘USA Freedom Rally’. At first, a Trump supporter is seen grappling with a black-clad counterprotester who is attempting to snatch away his American flag after heated verbal disputes.

    Seconds after the Trump supporter throws an elbow at the assailant, at least six other apparent Antifa supporters swarm at the pro-Trump demonstrator, pummeling him with fists and a lead pipe.

    Here’s another link to help you out in the future, Davethulhu:
    https://searchengineland.com/guide/how-to-use-google-to-search

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  204. That’s funny, because beer tried that same ridiculous moralizing attack on me awhile back

    Nobody remembers what you’re talking about, including me. Get over it.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  205. The Associated Press
    @AP
    ·
    Many countries champion freedom of expression and allow publications that lampoon Islam’s prophet. Why has the reaction against France been especially virulent? Its colonial past, staunch secular policies and tough-talking president all play a role.
    __ _

    The Associated Press
    @AP

    This replaces a tweet about France and the Muslim world that asked why France “incites” anger. The word was not intended to convey that France instigates anger against it.
    __ _

    L.D.N. Junk Esq.
    @ldnjunk
    ·
    “The word was not intended to convey that France instigates anger against it.”

    It’s literally the definition of the word.
    __ _

    David J. Weber
    @DavidJWeber2
    ·
    If only you had a wordsmith within your organization? Oh, wait… you did mean the intent, you just couldn’t take the heat. The real story is why in 2020 a group of people will resort to beheading people because their feelings are hurt.
    __ _

    MikeSkinner’s Trap House
    @MSTrapHouse
    ·
    And how are they able to arrive Mid Pandemic, in Italy, and in several short weeks make their way to France to commit terror attacks. Something awry there.
    __ _

    LiveAsBrothersOrPerishAsFools
    @conciselyheidi
    ·
    Splitting hairs. You still choose to position this scenario as if France is the problem, and not the religious extremists who are beheading French citizens in broad daylight. Yellow journalism, at its finest.

    __ _

    Same color yellow as the American msm.
    _

    harkin (7fb4c9)

  206. The video at the link does not show the start of the altercation, and for the the first minute or two we can see, the white guy with the flag (which is not an American flag, but some white supremacist mockery of it) is the aggressor and using the heavy wooden flagstaff like a club against people who haven’t touched him. The so-called assailant he throws an elbow at is holding the end of flag/club so he can’t hit more people with it. And he is then swarmed.

    Dave (1bb933)

  207. The video at the link does not show the start of the altercation

    It starts with him retreating from a group of black clad gentleman, obviously because he suffers from acute paranoia.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  208. Or because he attacked someone with the deadly weapon he was carrying, as we see him do several times later.

    Dave (1bb933)

  209. It rained almost continuously from Wednesday morning till Friday after noon . Now it is startin to rain a little again.

    The rain last week was Hurricane Zeta, even though meteorologists don’t seem to link rain 1,000 or 2,000 miles away from a hurricane to the hurricane. But I think it is linked.

    Zeta was the 27th named Atlantic Storm this year. Z is the 26th letter of the alphabet, but there is no name that starts with a Z. Q, U, V. X, Y and Z are skipped. After that they use the letters of the Greek alphabet, and they don’t change them every year.

    There are 6 names for each of 20 letters of the English alphabet, which repeat themselves after 6 years, now alternating male and females – they used to be all female with the names being replaced after a famous storm. They are all first names, and never named after presidents, or anything else, although one of them was called Ike.

    Sammy Finkelman (125d6f)

  210. BnP@192-
    I’ll one up you by more than 50 years-

    New Hampshire (Union Leader) newspaper backs Biden, first Democrat for president in 100 years
    ………
    The New Hampshire Union Leader, which is based in Manchester, first deviated from its near-century streak of endorsing only Republican presidential candidates in 2016 when it chose to endorse Libertarian Gary Johnson over now President Trump, according to Axios. The paper endorsed Biden on Sunday just hours before Trump visited the Granite State for a rally.

    In its editorial, the Union Leader declared, “President Trump is not always 100 percent wrong, but he is 100 percent wrong for America.”
    ……..
    ……….While recognizing the pandemic is not Trump’s fault, the paper railed against the president for failing to own the situation as infection and death rates soared, and instead feigning ignorance to avoid uncomfortable topics.

    Describing the president as a “consummate linguistic takedown artist,” the paper said Trump also weaponized the “social-media-driven political landscape we now live in” and lacks the skillset for a second term. Biden, on the other hand, is a “caring, compassionate and professional public servant,” according to the editorial.
    …….
    “Joe Biden may not be the president we want, but in 2020 he is the president we desperately need. He will be a president to bring people together and right the ship of state,” it said. “Sadly, President Trump has proven himself to be the antithesis of thoughtful and pragmatic; he has failed to earn a second term.”
    …….
    That’s gotta hurt when Trump was having a COVID-19 superspreader event (I mean rally) when the endorsement was released.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  211. For those of you who doubt Texas is in play, here’s an article on the Democrat’s plan to flip the state.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/30/democrats-plan-to-win-texas-433644

    They’re basically following the O’Rourke strategy, which is to campaign in every county. Cruz did not do that in 2018, and he almost lost the election.

    Harris was down here in McAllen a few days ago. One wonders why a Democrat would bother with campaigning in the Rio Grande Valley, since this Congressional district has never elected a Republican, but it’s smart. The intent is to increase voter turnout. I haven’t seen anything on the local news about how many people attended her rally, but I guess it was a couple of hundred.

    Obama appeared in Miami-Dade. Biden himself is focused on Pennsylvania and the Great Lakes states.

    It’s a coordinated effort by the DNC. They’re campaigning in rural red counties and not counting on suburban blue counties. In other words, they’re trying to expand their base and get people out to vote, all across the country.

    The RNC, on the other hand, is not. They’re counting on rural red counties and not courting suburban blue counties. That was the mistake Cruz made in 2018.

    In 2012, his first Senate race, he campaigned in McAllen. In fact, he was captain of the 4th of July parade. It’s what won him the election. He didn’t come down here in 2018, preferring to campaign in rural red counties. It’s what almost lost him reelection.

    Trump is making the same mistake. He is not expanding his base. Yeah, he’s barnstorming in battle ground states, but he’s already lost the suburbs, especially among women.

    Trump’s base is simply not large enough to win another election. That’s the truth, that’s the reality, and that’s the fact of the matter.

    There are stories about Trump planning to keep campaigning after the election.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/30/trumps-maga-roadshow-ballots-tallied-433720

    Trump will not go gently into that good night. There will be lawsuits, accriminations, accusations of fraud, illegitimacy, all sorts of things. Anything to keep the Emperor Trump in office.

    Prepare yourselves for a difficult next couple of weeks or months.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  212. Election at Hand, Biden Leads Trump in Four Key States, Poll Shows
    Joseph R. Biden Jr. holds a clear advantage over President Trump across four of the most important presidential swing states, a new poll shows, bolstered by the support of voters who did not participate in the 2016 election and who now appear to be turning out in large numbers to cast their ballots, mainly for the Democrat.
    …….
    Mr. Biden, the former vice president, is ahead of Mr. Trump in the Northern battlegrounds of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, as well as in the Sun Belt states of Florida and Arizona, according to a poll of likely voters conducted by The New York Times and Siena College. His strength is most pronounced in Wisconsin, where he has an outright majority of the vote and leads Mr. Trump by 11 points, 52 percent to 41 percent.
    …….

    Mr. Trump’s apparent weakness in many of the country’s largest electoral prizes leaves him with a narrow path to the 270 Electoral College votes required to claim victory, short of a major upset or a systemic error in opinion polling surpassing even the missteps preceding the 2016 election………

    In the closing days of the campaign, Mr. Biden has a modest advantage in Florida, where he is ahead of Mr. Trump by three points, 47 percent to 44 percent, a lead that is within the margin of error. He leads by six points in both Arizona and Pennsylvania. In no state did Mr. Trump’s support climb higher than 44 percent.

    The margin of error is 3.2 percentage points in Wisconsin and Florida; 3 points in Arizona and 2.4 points in Pennsylvania.

    Mr. Biden …….has at no point slipped behind Mr. Trump in any of the swing states that are likeliest to decide the election.

    The president……is now running behind his 2016 vote shares in all of them, a grave position for a sitting president just days before the election. He has also trailed consistently in public polls of Michigan…….

    Amid that bleak outlook, the president has continued to baselessly cast doubt on the integrity of the election. ……
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  213. Texas’ top court denies a G.O.P. push to throw out over 120,000 votes; a federal case is pending.
    The Texas Supreme Court denied an effort by Republicans to throw out more than 120,000 votes that had already been cast at drive-through locations in Harris County, leaving Republicans’ only remaining option at the federal level.

    The ruling from the court came without comment.

    The effort to get rid of the votes from largely Democratic Harris County now hinges on a nearly identical effort at the federal level, where a judge has called an election-eve hearing for Monday.
    …….
    More than 127,000 voters have cast ballots at the sites and the number could grow to more than 135,000 through Election Day on Tuesday, said Susan Hays, a lawyer for Harris County. She said county officials planned to vigorously challenge the suit, which she described as an act of “voter suppression.”
    …….
    In a statement on Twitter on Saturday, Mr. (Chris Hollins, the Harris County clerk,) said drive-through voting “is a safe, secure and convenient way to vote. Texas Election Code allows it, the Secretary of State approved it, and 127,000 voters from all walks of life have used it.”
    …….

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  214. @192. It’ll be interesting if Allegheny County voters go long and deep for Trump so the final tallies will be something to review– even by precinct. The county tipped for Hillary last cycle. But Biden and Harris torpedoed themselves w/their fracking flip-flopping. Fracking is critical to the region these days and the Covid lockdowns only make the income from such a process all the more essential to the economics of the region. Most Americans forget that though the team is named the Pittsburgh Steelers, “steel” essentially isn’t made there anymore–and hasn’t been for quite a long time. Remember, too, oil was discovered in W. PA north Pgh., in little town called Titusville. Been there. The region oozes it. But Western Pennsylvanians are a level-headed bunch and know what’s best for their livelihoods. In this cycle, it may likely be Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  215. Welcome to November. For Trump, the October Surprise Never Came.
    President Trump began the fall campaign rooting for, and trying to orchestrate, a last-minute surprise that would vault him ahead of Joseph R. Biden Jr.

    A coronavirus vaccine. A dramatic economic rebound. A blockbuster Justice Department investigation. A grievous misstep by a rival he portrayed as faltering. A scandal involving Mr. Biden and his son Hunter.

    But as the campaign nears an end, and with most national and battleground-state polls showing Mr. Trump struggling, the cavalry of an October surprise that helped him overtake Hillary Clinton in 2016 has not arrived.

    That has left Mr. Trump running on a record of an out-of-control pandemic, an economy staggered by disease, and questions about his own style and conduct that have made him a polarizing figure.
    ………
    Sad!

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  216. @222. The mails have been slowed; it’ll arrive Tuesday– w/his second-term. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  217. Nobody remembers what you’re talking about, including me. Get over it.
    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67) — 11/1/2020 @ 10:23 am

    I wasn’t assuming that anyone else would remember it, which is why I explained it. Nor am I harboring hurt feelings — far from it. But I remembered because I have a decent memory, particularly for the absurd.
    It was an absurd line of attack then — and even more absurd when it pops up again. It’s just a ridiculous form of moral preening.

    Radegunda (20775b)

  218. Byrd was an “Exalted Cyclops”, not a “Grand Wizard.” Some might not care about the difference…

    Sorta like the difference between the Nazi SS and the Nazi Wehrmacht, eh, mein Fuehrer. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  219. If Biden was praising Byrd he deserves to be condemned for it. Fair is fair.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  220. Trump says his supporters were ‘protecting’ Biden bus when they allegedly tried to run it off the road
    At a rally in Michigan on Sunday, Trump said a group of his supporters in Texas was “protecting” a Biden campaign bus when the group allegedly tried to run the vehicle off the road, going further than he previously had in endorsing the actions.

    Trump’s remarks at the rally in Washington, Mich., came one day after he approvingly tweeted a video of flag-bearing cars surrounding a Biden campaign bus on the road. The Biden campaign says vehicles with Trump flags attempted to run its bus off the highway on Friday.

    “Did you see the way our people, they, you know, they were protecting his bus yesterday,” Trump said Sunday. “Because they’re nice. So his bus — they had hundreds of cars. ‘Trump,’ ‘Trump.’ Trump and the American flag. That’s what you see — Trump and the American flag.”
    ………
    Comedy gold!

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  221. Or because he attacked someone with the deadly weapon he was carrying, as we see him do several times later.

    Or, you’re making stuff up.

    beer ‘n pretzels (e9b78a)

  222. “Here’s another link to help you out in the future, Davethulhu:”

    Nah, I prefer that you provide your sources.

    Davethulhu (284dab)

  223. “Or, you’re making stuff up.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVI6gV9KcWQ

    Davethulhu (284dab)

  224. Meet at the old mill – We ride at midnight
    that’s whats a happening – Americans taking the country back from lawyers making up hoaxes to ruin the republic.

    mg (8cbc69)

  225. @223-
    Touché. The October surprise occurred in March. If not for the coronavirus, Trump would have been a slam dunk for re-election.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  226. Princeton Election Consortium-November 1, 2020

    Biden 353 EV (D+5.7% from toss-up), Senate 53 D, 47 R (D+3.8%), House control D+5.0%

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  227. @233. 330 million Americans awoke today w/o it. Likely not a slam dunk– but a doughnut dunk in their morning coffee– or Diet Coke.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  228. @226 It depends on whether or not you believe that a person can repent and become a better person. Byrd was a member of the KKK in the 1940s but some time in the early 50s his opinion appears to have made a sharp turn and he renounced his membership and repeatedly through the rest of his life denounced the KKK and publicly repented his own former membership. Personally, not being one to the insane purity culture wokeness people, I don’t think making dumb decisions when you’re young and repenting of them shortly thereafter should necessarily mean the rest of your life is worthless. Confess your sins, sincerely repent of them and go and sin no more.

    Nic (896fdf)

  229. The link methulhu posted doesn’t show the beginning of the altercation either.

    But it does reveal something about the context.

    There were two demonstrations, a BLM/antifa one and Trump/Alt-Right one. The police tried to keep the two groups apart.

    In the video, you can see the left-wing group is in the background, at the right edge of the scene, and at the beginning of the video, the white guy is being moved away from it by the black-clad people when he swats them with his flag/club and there is a brief scuffle. The antifa/BLM’s turn around and start to walk back to their area, and the white guy pursues them and attacks them from behind, at which point they retaliate.

    Without seeing how the incident began, it’s impossible to say whether one group or the other was inciting violence or responding to it.

    But the narrative of antifa attacking a peaceful Trump supporter without provocation is clearly absurd.

    Dave (1bb933)

  230. White House coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas apologizes for RT interview
    White House coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas apologized on Sunday for appearing on RT, Russian state television, days before the election.

    “I recently did an interview with RT and was unaware they are a registered foreign agent. I regret doing the interview and apologize for allowing myself to be taken advantage of. I especially apologize to the national security community who is working hard to defend us,” Atlas said.

    In the interview, he blasted shutdowns and played down the virus.
    ……
    One propagandist to another.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  231. It depends on whether or not you believe that a person can repent and become a better person. Byrd was a member of the KKK in the 1940s but some time in the early 50s his opinion appears to have made a sharp turn and he renounced his membership and repeatedly through the rest of his life denounced the KKK and publicly repented his own former membership.

    Byrd was a vile character even after renouncing the KKK, and it does the Democrats no credit that he was accepted as a powerful and (at least nominally) respected figure in their party.

    Dave (1bb933)

  232. If Biden was praising Byrd he deserves to be condemned for it. Fair is fair.

    Yes. So I’ll wait for Trump defenders to condemn Trump for calling Kim Jong-un a great leaders who loves his people and seeks what is best for them. And to stop insisting that every misdeed in Trump’s past was wiped off the slate as soon as he took office (and that all his ongoing sins are totally irrelevant).

    Radegunda (20775b)

  233. @235-
    Nearly 231,000 (and counting) and nearly 900 yesterday didn’t “wake up” this morning but instead are dead, numbers that are certainly an undercount.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  234. “Folks, it’s time to breathe some life back in this nation!” – Joe Biden, Philadelphia, PA 11/1/20

    Breathe life?

    In just 20 days, Plagiarist JoeyBee turns 78 years old.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  235. @239 And it’s fair to criticize him for the bad things he did that he didn’t spend more than 50 yrs publicly repenting, but the Byrd KKK hurr hurr hurr stuff is lazy and juvenile and implies untruths IMO.

    Nic (896fdf)

  236. The antifa/BLM’s turn around and start to walk back to their area, and the white guy pursues them and attacks them from behind, at which point they retaliate.

    Absurd. They walk away after beating him up.

    beer ‘n pretzels (042d67)

  237. Biden says Trump has surrendered to the virus. It looks to me like you could better say that Dr. Anthony Fauci has surrendered to the virus. (he’s arguing that what Trump is saying about the birus is wrong but not that he should do something he is not doing)

    Which means that Joe Biden has surrendered to the virus, since he says he would do what the “scientists” say meaning probably the official U.S. government health experts.

    While Trump is pushing to get a vaccine out and, more quietly, the antibody treatment that cured him.

    If we’d had that policy in the late 1940s it would have taken years to get penicillin.

    Sammy Finkelman (125d6f)

  238. @239. LOL Apparently you’ve never heard of Jesse Helms (R) NC.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  239. Biden says Trump has surrendered to the virus. It looks to me like you could better say that Dr. Anthony Fauci has surrendered to the virus. (he’s arguing that what Trump is saying about the birus is wrong but not that he should do something he is not doing)

    It was Mark Meadows, WH Chief of Staff, who announced the surrender. I don’t know of any statement by Dr. Fauci (or any other public health official) who made such a statement.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  240. “We’re gonna work like the Devil!” – Joe Biden, Philadelphia, PA 11/1/10

    Really, Joe? Like the Devil? And you say this on a Sunday???

    Idiot.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  241. @245. He keeps quipping he’ll ‘shutdown the virus.’

    So let’s all breathe through one nostril, eh Joe??

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  242. @241. Doom! Doom! Doom!

    ‘Rip”—people die every day.

    It’s the 330 million who want to get back to living and vote.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  243. O.M.G.

    Biden stands in Philadelphia before cameras and tells voters he’s wearing his Eagles jacket [which is green BTW] when in fact, he was standing there addressing them wearing a Delaware Blue Hens jacket- [which is blue BTW] complete w/a Blue Hens logo on his chest literally six inches below his eyes.

    He’s a frigging idiot.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  244. Amid pandemic, U.S. has seen 300,000 ‘excess deaths,’ with highest rates among people of color
    …….
    ……[I]n the most updated count to date, researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have found that nearly 300,000 more people in the United States died from late January to early October this year compared the average number of people who died in recent years. Just two-thirds of those deaths were counted as Covid-19 fatalities, highlighting how the official U.S. death count — now standing at about 220,000 — is not fully inclusive.

    To be exact, the researchers reported that 299,028 more people died from Jan. 26 to Oct. 3 this year than on average during the same stretch from 2015 to 2019. Excess deaths also occurred at higher rates among Latinx, Asian, American Indian, and Black people than among white people, mirroring the disparities in official U.S. Covid-19 death counts.

    Most likely, the excess deaths account for some otherwise untallied Covid-19 deaths — those who may have died without being tested or who died at home and whose deaths were not counted as caused by the coronavirus. But the 300,000 number probably also includes people who died because they were scared to seek out medical care because of the pandemic or had their care interrupted, and because of other causes. One limitation of the study, the researchers noted, was that the U.S. population is growing and getting older, so more deaths might have occurred in 2020 versus recent years without a pandemic, making a direct comparison harder.

    Deaths among white people in 2020 were just 11.9% higher than average years, a much lower increase than deaths among Latinx people (53.6% higher than average), Asian people (36.6% higher), Black people (32.9% higher), and American Indians and Alaska Natives (28.9% higher). “These disproportionate increases among certain racial and ethnic groups are consistent with noted disparities in Covid-19 mortality,” the researchers wrote.
    ……
    DCSCA, I’ll remember to be as callous when it comes to your time with the Grim Reaper.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  245. @252. Callous? People die every day, Rip; I’ve already dealt w/GR up close and personal, fella: my mother passed away six months ago literally in my arms not 20 feet from where I’m typing this. Death is part of life. Deal with it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  246. Not if’s preventable.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  247. Not if it’s preventable, as many of would have been if Trump was more decisive and not whining about it.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  248. And I also witnessed the deaths of both my parents within six months, so there, fella.

    Rip Murdock (676dac)

  249. @254. GOP 101, Rip: : Personal responsiblity.

    But if you believe Joe Biden is gonna ‘shut down’ the virus, suggest you start to limit exposure and breathe through one nostril to use less air: Biden 101.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  250. @256. Then you should know better.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  251. 238. White House coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas apologizes for RT interview
    White House coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas apologized on Sunday for appearing on RT, Russian state television, days before the election.

    Is it confidence, impudence, or desperation, for Putin to have his agents report and be debriefed in public? Deep State The counter-intelligence services monitoring Trump staffers’ private communications too closely?

    nk (1d9030)

  252. SF: Biden says Trump has surrendered to the virus. It looks to me like you could better say that Dr. Anthony Fauci has surrendered to the virus. (he’s arguing that what Trump is saying about the birus is wrong but not that he should do something he is not doing)

    Rip Murdock (676dac) — 11/1/2020 @ 1:38 pm

    It was Mark Meadows, WH Chief of Staff, who announced the surrender. I don’t know of any statement by Dr. Fauci (or any other public health official) who made such a statement.

    He said we are not going to control the virus. What do you think he was basing it on? It wasn’t Trump.

    This is what Fauci said:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/politics/donald-trump-anthony-fauci-2020-campaign/index.html

    The nation’s top infectious disease expert also told the Post he appreciated chief of staff Mark Meadows’ honesty when he admitted to CNN’s Jake Tapper during a recent interview that the administration has given up controlling the spread of the virus…. Fauci told the Post that the nation is “in for a whole lot of hurt.”

    …..Fauci…said Meadows was being candid in the interview last weekend where he told Tapper it was not possible to control the virus. Fauci has adopted the polar opposite strategy by repeatedly telling Americans that they can change the trajectory of the virus and save lives if they adhere to mask use, social distancing protocols and other safety precautions.

    How does changing the trajectory amount to “controlling” the virus? Fauci doesn’t believe we can stop it. Conversely, how does continuing efforts to “contain” it, and keeping up with all kinds of social distancing and PPE amount to giving up and how is that different from Fauci?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/25/politics/mark-meadows-controlling-coronavirus-pandemic-cnntv/index.html

    Pressed by Tapper on why the US isn’t going to get the pandemic under control, Meadows said: “Because it is a contagious virus just like the flu.” He added that the Trump administration is “making efforts to contain it.”

    “What we need to do is make sure that we have the proper mitigation factors, whether it’s therapies or vaccines or treatments to make sure that people don’t die from this,” Meadows said.

    There’s one important dfference between them. Meaddows said we would mitigate it and (try to) make sure that nobody does from it. Fauci however pooh poohs that. He’s the one who’s given up.

    Sammy Finkelman (125d6f)

  253. Is it confidence, impudence, or desperation, for Putin to have his agents report and be debriefed in public?

    I’m sure it makes him more popular in Russia to flaunt his control over our government.

    Dave (1bb933)

  254. 60 Minutes did a story tonight on the federal government response to the first major ouutbreak of coronavirus.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/60-minutes-coronavirus-coverage

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-outbreak-nursing-facility-kirkland-washington-60-minutes-2020-11-01

    They cite mistakes and wrong approaches.

    None of that was the fault of Donald Trump

    If Trump was at fault in any way, it was by not interfering.

    It was the professionals, the civil servants, the so-called “scientists” maybe, who made all the mistakes they chronicle.

    First, limiting testing to people with a known connection to China. Second, sending out a bad test (that gave false positives, CBS says) Third, the FDA refusing to approve a different test. Fourth, sending investigators to the nursing home to see what they did wrong (they did indeed do wrong buut probably so did practically every nursing home in the country and that was not the reason it hit them. The investigation also hampered their ability to take care of the patients. They needed help, not hindrance and the help was slower in coming than the hindrance.

    From 60 Minutes:

    …In February, testing for COVID-19 was limited to the CDC’s lab in Atlanta, and reserved for people who had traveled to China or had contact with an infected person. None of the patients then in Evergreen Hospital qualified. And when the government moved to expand testing operations, the tests they shipped to public health labs were defective.

    Bill Whitaker: The CDC’s test was the first one approved and the first one put out there, and it didn’t work?

    Dr. Geoffrey Baird: It had a problem with one of the– the components of the test caused some false positives…..

    ,,,,Dr. Geoffrey Baird: We could make a drug test to detect heroin or we could make a blood test to detect cancer. We can just do those. And then we can just offer those tests. We could’ve done that also for this.

    They first needed emergency approval from the FDA and ran into one bureaucratic wall after another.

    Dr. Geoffrey Baird: You have to send in the paperwork on paper. Then you also have to send it in on, you know, a flash drive. And then to gain approval, you would need to prove that the test worked on a larger number of cases than actually had been reported in the United States. [!]

    ….But before doctors and nurses turned up, another federal agency moved in, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services – not to help with patient care, but to investigate the nursing facility….

    ….Bill Whitaker: Who’s responsible for the– the missteps and mistakes?

    Dr. Geoffrey Baird: It took a village to screw it up this bad. We don’t really have an approach to public health that works really well in this country.

    The only thing Donald Trump, and his political appointees, did wrong was that they didn’t correct this problem. They didn’t attempt to supervise. They exercised no judgment. They took too much of a hands off approach.

    Sammy Finkelman (125d6f)

  255. 257. There’s an advetisement running about Biden’s plan.

    Puttin that, and other things together, it seems like his plan is:

    1. First have a plan. Everyone knows all plans work.

    2. Double the testing.

    3. Increase the amount of PPE available. (I think mainly for schools)

    4. Re-establish some kind of White House pandemic group.

    5. Save the Affordable Care Act (supposedly in danger from that lawsuit, I suppose) and in particular, save no exclusions for pre-existing conditions. (what has that to do with fighting coronavirus? More useful was the change in law passed earlier this year that says once someone is on Medicaid, they can stay on Medicaid without further review of eligibility as long as the emergency continues.)

    https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/state-actions-to-facilitate-access-to-medicaid-and-chip-coverage-in-response-to-covid-19

    …. To receive the enhanced match states cannot implement more restrictive eligibility standards or higher premiums; must provide continuous eligibility for enrollees through the end of the month of the emergency period; and may not charge cost sharing for SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19 related testing services or treatments.4,5 These provisions help ensure continuous coverage for existing Medicaid enrollees during the emergency period. However, they do not extend to children or pregnant women enrolled through CHIP.

    Sammy Finkelman (125d6f)

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