California: It Looks Like We Will Never Be Rid Of This Virus
[guest post by Dana]
Pandemic? What pandemic?
The Mayor of Los Angeles tries to stop that which has become inevitable:
As we cheer our @Lakers’ 17th championship, please remember it's still not safe to gather in groups. Let’s honor our city's triumph by protecting others and making sure we don't spread the virus.
Please celebrate safely at home. Do not gather at Staples Center. Thank you!
— MayorOfLA (@MayorOfLA) October 12, 2020
Too little, too late:
Cars trying to get through DTLA near Staples Center. Avoid it if you can! @ABC7 pic.twitter.com/qBKS50gwnX
— Veronica Miracle (@ABC7Veronica) October 12, 2020
#NOW: Lakers fans are getting rowdy in downtown LA as they celebrate the big win. @abc7chriscristi is overhead and we are live on @ABC7 pic.twitter.com/eC7fpY551D
— Veronica Miracle (@ABC7Veronica) October 12, 2020
Staples Center @USATODAY @usatodaysports pic.twitter.com/4oO115ycNK
— Harrison (@Harrisonhill__) October 12, 2020
For the fourth day in a row, Los Angeles County reported more than 1,200 new coronavirus cases, continuing a string of elevated numbers that could further stall efforts to reopen more sectors of the local economy.
The county announced 1,285 new cases Saturday, up from the 1,256 cases reported Friday and the 1,280 announced Thursday. On Wednesday, county health officials reported 1,645 new cases, the highest numbers seen since Aug. 22.
Meanwhile, a Southern California church held an in-person service where a host of pastors and religious leaders campaigned for churches to be allowed to reopen with in-person services in their houses of worship. No masks were being worn nor were any social distancing measures taking place during the event:
“The Church is more than essential – it’s God ordained. It’s time to choose faith over fear. It’s time to honor God over man. It’s time for a Court that will honor and uphold our First Freedom. It’s time for Freedom Sunday.
“Government officials continued to take unconstitutional steps to restrict churches from worshipping, unfairly silence them, and hold them to a different – and even discriminatory – standard. Does it make sense to reopen casinos, tattoo parlors, abortion centers and liquor stores while keeping houses of worship closed? Scripture instructs Christians to honor the government – unless it overstep its authority. With government officials exceeding their constitutional authority, we are left with the clear command in Hebrews 10:25 that believers should be ‘not neglecting to meet together.’
“Christians may be tempted to fear the consequences of meeting, whether of Covid-19 or government penalties. Churches can and should use proper health and safety measures in their services, both as a matter of prudence and out of love for one another. But Christians should not act out of fear. Jesus Christ himself commanded, ‘do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell’ (Matthew 10:28). And so we must stand up and say with the Apostle Peter, ‘We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 4:29). The time is now,” concluded Perkins.
It should be noted that statewide, churches have been holding in-person services outdoors. Whether in parking lots – drive-in theater-style – or under pop-up shade canopies, worship services are happening.
It really doesn’t seem like there is any sizeable statewide interest in taking all reasonable measures to slow the transmission of the virus.
–Dana
Welp.
Dana (292df6) — 10/12/2020 @ 9:37 amDon’t forget that the etymology of “fan” is “fanatic.”
Bored Lawyer (7b72ec) — 10/12/2020 @ 9:38 amIt’s a ridiculous time to be alive: the Mayor could have, and should have involved law enforcement because we are in a public health emergency, but because of the current civil unrest and protests, their involvement would have only led to some really horrible outcomes. Thus, the Mayor tweets…
Dana (292df6) — 10/12/2020 @ 9:45 amOf course, had one of the fans exclaimed, “The Lakers Won! Thank the Lord!” then he could have been arrested for holding a religious service.
Bored Lawyer (7b72ec) — 10/12/2020 @ 9:53 amWhat kind of people actually spend their time and money (a lot of money for the Chinese-made sponsored schlock) on lanky half-naked young men in satin running around with a ball in the first place? Sensible people?
nk (1d9030) — 10/12/2020 @ 9:54 amWhat kind of people actually spend their time and money (a lot of money for the Chinese-made sponsored schlock) on lanky half-naked young men in satin running around with a ball in the first place? Sensible people?
In things like this, follow the money. I read somewhere that Shaquille O’Neill made $100 million playing basketball, but made over $1 billion in product endorsements. So apparently, sensible or not, there are many people who find watching basketball something worth spending their money on.
Bored Lawyer (7b72ec) — 10/12/2020 @ 9:57 amProbably why CA has been muddling along doing poorly.
https://covidactnow.org/us/california-ca?s=1129255
Time123 (b0628d) — 10/12/2020 @ 9:59 amIt really doesn’t seem like there is any sizeable statewide interest in taking all reasonable measures to slow the transmission of the virus.
Trump has really failed us.
beer ‘n pretzels (042d67) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:15 amTrump is not the only servant of the Antichrist.
nk (1d9030) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:17 amIt really doesn’t seem like there is any sizeable statewide interest in taking all reasonable measures to slow the transmission of the virus.
Yeah. Early on and maybe through July or so, it seemed like enough folks were, at least around me (Bay Area). But no more.
Humans: still their own worst enemy, film at 11. I’m fairly well adapted in my urban-hellhole bubble lately, aside from a couple things. But I rather suspect that virtual work will stay at least an option after the new year (the soonest we’re considering re-officing).
So the choice will be move somewhere that doesn’t cost median-US-yearly-salary for rent and is on fire for 4 months out of the year, and being able to be physically present in the office.
Hm.
john (cd2753) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:20 amEh… the Sturgis MC rally in South Dakota a few weeks back didn’t turn out to be a super-spreader event like many thought.
I mean, with all the riots and protests we’ve been having, we’re probably not seeing things “spike” as one expect and we’re just witness the natural spread of a usual pandemic.
whembly (7c17c7) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:34 ammaybe they are doing something wrong, but they mean well,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:40 amChris Cristi
@abc7chriscristi
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#BREAKING: Thousands of #Lakers fans have converged on Staples Center. Mostly peaceful, except for a small group throwing rocks and bottles at LAPD.
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Antifa likes roundball too.
harkin (7fb4c9) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:42 am_
Where else do germs breed: Los Angeles is a sewer with zip codes.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:44 amWhen the Bulls won their first championship with Michael Jordan in 1991, Bulls fans burned down half of Chicago’s West Side.
nk (1d9030) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:48 amIt’s seemed to me for sometime that being outside makes it much harder to transmit.
Time123 (36651d) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:49 amJason Kenney
@jkenney
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An important statement from the World Health Organisation:
“We in the WHO do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus…. We really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method.”
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Roz
@PolitiKurd
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After 6-7 months of pushing lockdowns that put millions of people out of work, the WHO now denounces lockdowns and says they do more harm than good
Took 7 months to get to the realization that normal people knew from day 1
https://amp.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/coronavirus-who-backflips-on-virus-stance-by-condemning-lockdowns/news-story/f2188f2aebff1b7b291b297731c3da74?__twitter_impression=true
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Rob Scheider
@RobScheider
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The WHO now opposes lockdowns…
“Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”
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Ted Cruz
@tedcruz
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Even Lefty World Health Organization gets it—lockdowns are TERRIBLE:
“Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.”
Why can’t Biden get it?
harkin (7fb4c9) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:54 amOr Cuomo?
Or Newsom?
Or Wolf?
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Is this the same WHO that Trump defunded or some other one that loves him?
nk (1d9030) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:56 amBiden’s too busy getting ready to transform America…..
Jewish Deplorable
@TrumpJew
Biden forgets Romney’s name
“I got in trouble when we were running against that senator who was a Mormon, the governor”
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Jarrett Renshaw
@JarrettRenshaw
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Like a rockstar who celebrates the wrong city, Biden references Erie PA in a tweet about Toledo Ohio.
https://twitter.com/JarrettRenshaw/status/1315708024321904642?s=20
harkin (7fb4c9) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:57 am_
the same ones that mandated the lockdown, who are fauci’s bffs, also cdc reveals 70-85% of infected wore masks,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 10/12/2020 @ 10:58 amAll Amy has to do is answer these questions:
Do you believe the sun stood still in the sky? Yes or no?
Do you believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale? Yes or no?
Do you believe an ark was built for animals, two by two, to survive a Great Flood? Yes or no?
Do you believe Heaven is Hell or Hell is Heaven as opera for Scalia and Ginsburg? Choose.
Do you ascribe to Divine Creation or Evolution? Choose.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:05 amCA is like five or six states inside a single-state boundary, each with their own attitudes toward the virus. It was never going to be easy to enforce mitigation protocols.
Paul Montagu (77c694) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:05 amThis is a thread where we’re criticizing things done by someone who isn’t Trump. There’s plenty things he did / didn’t do to criticize. But keep this one in mind the next time you feel like sad ppl are being mean to president circus peanut.
Time123 (36651d) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:12 amThe free-market approach (bounties) is the way to go, since the invisible hand will direct mitigation resources where they are needed most.
Even Comrade nk must see the logic here.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:16 amWhy is it that the not idiots always end up punished for the idiots behavior?
I hate to be cynical, but it seems like some pastors might be sad about their collection plates.
@21 Catholicism doesn’t require literal believe in the stories of the old testament. It also doesn’t require a belief in creationism (though my Catholic HS biology teacher cravenly skipped the evolution chapter so as to avoid controversy)
Nic (896fdf) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:21 amAnd, as if on cue, The Lincoln Project presents:
MAGA Church, Part Deux
Trump’s facial expression in the closing shot is … divine.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:30 amSomebody said to me during the weekend holiday (when someone said that he thought it would 2 or 3 years) that he thought we would never be rid of this virus. (This is a survivor – two weeks in thee hospital in April. Because he heard this stuff about antibodies disappearing and he thinks he got a test in May that showed he had none = maybe a misunderstanding of what kind of a test it was. he think d he can get it again.)
Sammy Finkelman (4eddd7) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:33 amOh, because Jesus only taught in church buildings?? These people easily ignore the vital message from Christ himself: Wherever two or three are gathered together in my name, there I am in the midst of them. God doesn’t need a building to be heard, and believers don’t need to be inside a building to be in fellowship with God.
This isn’t about faith over fear, or honoring God over man. It’s manipulative framing and they should be ashamed of themselves.
Dana (292df6) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:47 amSome people need to read Article VI of the Constitution. The United States Constitution, that is. Not the Soviet constitution.
nk (1d9030) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:48 amVirus? You can’t even get rid of the damn train!
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:55 amCA is like five or six states inside a single-state boundary, each with their own attitudes toward the virus. It was never going to be easy to enforce mitigation protocols.
Five, I think.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/12/2020 @ 11:57 amits not really a religious test mr nk
its more of a quiz
Dave (1bb933) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:00 pmIt would be more interesting to hear about what the death rate is doing.
So, yes, as long as “new cases” is the metric CA won’t be opening up. Good luck with that.
frosty (f27e97) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:18 pmAs someone who had Lakers season tickets for 17 seasons I can attest that Lakers fans are absolutely the dregs of the sports world. Imagine a bunch of losers who think they are counted among the beautiful people and combine ugly levels of machismo and entitlement. Nothing about what I saw in those videos surprises me.
JVW (ee64e4) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:45 pmMore data on masks for the 2 or 3 of you that are actually interested in science rather than media talking points.
1DaveMac (b2b831) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:46 pmhttps://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6936a5-H.pdf
I think it’s going down. I am really curious about people who wind up with chronic breathing or heart problems. It’s well known the death rate for folks under 70 isn’t high, but I don’t know who is keeping accurate info on this other impact.
As for went the world opens up, I honestly don’t see how it can’t. People need to eat. Risks must be taken.
It would be easier if we had had a real compliance, but that isn’t our society. We have to work with what we have.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:51 pmAlso as someone who used to live in the Metroplex I am grateful to Los Angeles for ensuring we aren’t the world’s worst fans.
Dustin (4237e0) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:51 pmLA County Daily COVID-19 Data
Rip Murdock (a9a78d) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:55 pmRIP Roberta McCain, mother of late GOP Senator John McCain, dead at 108
Sammy Finkelman (4eddd7) — 10/12/2020 @ 12:59 pmThe Lakers celebration is a fire drill compared to if/when the Doyers finally get over the hump.
urbanleftbehind (94df8a) — 10/12/2020 @ 1:19 pmYawn. These celebrations include a lot of Democrat voters so nothing can be done to stop them…
Hoi Polloi (92d467) — 10/12/2020 @ 2:43 pmThe Lakers celebration is a fire drill compared to if/when the Doyers finally get over the hump.
OK, I called the Lakers fans the worst but Dodgers fans might even outdo them. Of course the whole problem is that there is so much overlap between those two fan bases. Hey, I like sports as much as the next guy, but I have never managed to make my self-worth as a human being or even my entire civic pride (such that it is) dependent upon the performance of the millionaire athletes who wear the city’s name on their uniforms or the looney ownership groups who cut the checks and collect the revenue.
JVW (ee64e4) — 10/12/2020 @ 2:52 pm39.RIP Roberta McCain, mother of late GOP Senator John McCain, dead at 108
Good run; great advertisement for gov’t healthcare, too.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/12/2020 @ 2:55 pm@25. ‘Catholicism’ or any other religion/cult isn’t mentioned in the list of questions, Nic.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/12/2020 @ 2:58 pmGood run; great advertisement for gov’t healthcare, too.
If your husband’s an admiral and son a Senator, sure. But I think there’s a whole bunch of less-well-connected patients from the VA who would disagree with you.
JVW (ee64e4) — 10/12/2020 @ 3:08 pm@44 If I talk about canines and felines I didn’t mention dogs or cats either.
Nic (896fdf) — 10/12/2020 @ 3:24 pmShe out lived her husband by nearly 40 years
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 10/12/2020 @ 3:26 pmCalifornians hospitalized with COVID-19 at lowest level in 6 months
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The average number of deaths logged daily in the state is 57, the lowest since May, according to a rolling seven-day average calculated by The Times. In addition, fewer patients are in the hospital with COVID-19 — 2,209 as of Saturday — than there have been since April 2.
The state’s positivity rate, a measure of tests for the virus that come back positive, is 2.6%, an all-time low, according to state data.
These figures represent a major improvement following a massive spike earlier this year. During the summer months, the average number of deaths recorded each day reached 140, the number of people in the hospital with COVID-19 topped 7,000, and the state positivity rate crossed 7%.
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The new numbers come as the state has been slowly allowing some counties to open more businesses. Most recently, Ventura, Merced and Yuba counties were allowed to loosen restrictions on businesses, giving restaurants, movie theaters and gyms the ability to open indoors in limited capacity.
(Governor Gavin) Newsom said more counties will be allowed to take similar steps on Tuesday, when the state announces which counties meet the criteria for entering the next phase of reopening. Though some counties continue to struggle to meet the required thresholds, California in general is “moving in the right direction,” he said.
Rip Murdock (a9a78d) — 10/12/2020 @ 3:55 pm………
I called the Lakers fans the worst but Dodgers fans might even outdo them.
Hey. I’m a Dodger fan. Ever since I saw Koufax pitch.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/12/2020 @ 4:00 pmAs for went the world opens up, I honestly don’t see how it can’t. People need to eat. Risks must be taken.
At some point we live with it. There will be vaccines that lessen the risk or the severity, and some drugs for treatment. We will learn a lot about anti-viral meds which will help us with other things like HIV. I am pretty sure we won’t be social distancing or wearing masks much longer. It’s not sustainable. Yes, people will die, maybe even me, but death and taxes are certain anyway.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 10/12/2020 @ 4:03 pmKevin M. – Koufax was in the elite class with Gibson, Marichal, Ryan, and a few others. Was at the 7th game in 65 when the Dodgers beat the Twins.
mg (8cbc69) — 10/12/2020 @ 4:40 pmExactly! We’re all going to die people. The question is are we going to die alone in a hospital room because Dr Fraud-ci says it’s too dangerous for our family members to be there!
Dave, how many drunk drivers would you estimate were in downtown LA?
ah-non-ee-mouse (e2ed1b) — 10/13/2020 @ 2:58 amCheck out this 7 min youtube video about a Australian commenter quoting a gov official who just resigned over covid.
ah-non-ee-mouse (e2ed1b) — 10/13/2020 @ 3:13 am“This is no pandemic.”
US sees 20% more deaths than expected this year, most due to Covid-19, research finds
Dave (1bb933) — 10/13/2020 @ 4:54 am