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9/14/2020

Trump To Supporters: “I’m Probably Entitled to a Third Term”

Filed under: General — Dana @ 5:09 pm



[guest post by Dana]

At his rally in Nevada this weekend, Trump suggested that he deserves a third term because he’s “entitled” to it:

President Donald Trump on Saturday once again suggested interest in serving three terms in office, telling attendees of a campaign event in Nevada that he was “probably entitled” to an additional four years following a hypothetical second term.

“And 52 days from now we’re going to win Nevada, and we’re going to win four more years in the White House,” Trump told the mostly maskless, non-socially-distant crowd of his supporters on Saturday. “And then after that, we’ll negotiate, right? Because we’re probably — based on the way we were treated — we are probably entitled to another four after that.”

This isn’t the first time Trump has approached the subject. Back in August, he claimed he should have a third term because his “campaign was spied on”:

“We are going to win four more years,” Trump said. “And then after that, we’ll go for another four years because they spied on my campaign. We should get a redo of four years.”

The victim/entitlement claim is a recurring theme with Trump.

Currently, he claims to have been a victim of The Atlantic, in which a report claims that the President referred to fallen U.S. soldiers in France as “losers” :

“It’s a fake story written by a magazine that was probably not going to be around much longer,” Trump said. “But it was a totally fake story, and that was confirmed by many people who were actually there. It was a terrible thing that somebody could say the kind of things, and especially to me, because I’ve done more for the military than almost anybody else.”

Consider his social media posts in response to a Supreme Court ruling that rejected his claim of absolute immunity, allowing a prosecutor to have access to both the president’s private and business financial records:

“PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT!” and “POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!” He wrote that the decision was “Not fair to this Presidency” and claimed that “Courts in the past have given ’broad deference’. BUT NOT ME!”

And here is how he positioned himself as the victim in the early stages of the pandemic:

Mr. Trump said that news outlets like CNN were “doing everything they can to instill fear in people,” while some Democrats were “trying to gain political favor by saying a lot of untruths.”

And as the pandemic went on:

Rather than taking responsibility for early failures, or admitting that he downplayed the threat, Trump wrapped up Thursday’s press briefing by complaining the media has not treated him “fairly.”

The US is well behind the rest of the world in testing for the novel coronavirus, which is due to faulty test kits sent out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) last month. Though it’s clear the US is still struggling to make up for lost time due to these early stumbles, Trump on Thursday insisted the government was always prepared.

“We were very prepared,” Trump said. “The only thing we weren’t prepared for was the media. The media has not treated it fairly.”

And at the end of Thursday’s press conference, his big focus was not on what’s being done to prevent more Americans from being killed by this pandemic, but on how poorly Trump feels he’s been treated.

The president baselessly accused the media of being “dishonest” and “siding with China” in its coverage of coronavirus.

“It amazes me when I read the things that I read. It amazes me when I read The Wall Street Journal, which is always so negative. It amazes me when I read the — I don’t even read The New York Times, we don’t distribute it in the White House anymore and the same thing with The Washington Post,” Trump said. These remarks came two days after the Chinese government announced it was expelling US journalists working for the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post.

Trump described these outlets as “corrupt news,” and went on to say only he knows the truth.

He also blamed Democrats for intentionally shutting down rallies during the pandemic to hurt him:

Trump, in an interview on “Fox News Sunday,” touted how he built the “greatest economy” until it was derailed by the coronavirus and pledged he would do it again, but that Democrats were trying to thwart his efforts.

“The Democrats are purposely keeping their schools closed, keeping their states closed. I called Michigan. I want to have a big rally in Michigan. Do you know we’re not allowed to have a rally in Michigan?” Trump said in the interview.

“Do you know we’re not allowed to have a rally in Minnesota? Do you know we’re not allowed to have a rally in Nevada? We’re not allowed to have rallies in these Democrat-run states.”

Anyway, you’ve already seen oodles of examples where Trump has blamed his woes on someone else unfairly attacking him. And if he is criticized for his lack of leadership, ineptitude, and corruption, he simultaneously lashes out at the offender while positioning himself as the victim. And because he is a victim in his own eyes, he really believes that he is entitled to…well, whatever he thinks he should have. It only makes sense that a sitting president who truly thinks that no politician “has been treated worse or as unfairly,” believes that he is entitled to a third term. I think in Trump’s eyes, only that could possibly make up for the sins of those who have treated him unfairly. After all, none of that which led to the criticism of him could ever possibly be of his own doing.

–Dana

135 Responses to “Trump To Supporters: “I’m Probably Entitled to a Third Term””

  1. Jesus wept.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  2. Hello.

    Dana (292df6)

  3. I wonder what the over/under is on assassination attempts if he’s reelected. The hated dial is up to 11 now, and it will be 117 if he wins again.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  4. *hatred

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  5. But then, he’s expecting a landslide, and if he doesn’t get it, he’ll cry foul.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  6. BTW, I just finished binging “The Good Place” — absolutely brilliant. Took the dramatic Hugo *short form) the last 3 years. There’s a fun bit in the last two seasons with a very Trump-like character who has the same level of entitlement and unfair victimization that Trump displays.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  7. He’s talking “their language” to his supporters. Every single one of them a victim of unfair treatment by a cruel society controlled by George Soros, Mexico, and Deep State. Why, can you imagine, now they’re expected to learn how to read and write if they want to vote by mail!

    nk (1d9030)

  8. Unfortunately, I think we will see violence no matter who is elected. Trump, if he loses, will focus on his media brand, probably making Trump News Channel. His first story: covering some whackjob blowing stuff up because the deep state deep-sixed Trump’s reelection.

    Hoi Polloi (dc4124)

  9. I had no idea that he’d been in prison twice already.

    John B Boddie (699c63)

  10. It’s amazing the degree to which this triggers people who seem otherwise well balanced.

    frosty (f27e97)

  11. Another day, another Trump spit bubble. When Trumps lose, his supporters will clamor to go back to watching professional wrestling. That’s what they’ve really been missing with Covid-19.

    nk (1d9030)

  12. BTW, if you really want to see violence, see what happens if NY state or another state puts Trump on trial after ignoring the, um, idiosyncrasies, of past administrations (e.g. Hillary’s open bribe taking).

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  13. Biden may be senile, but what is Trump’s excuse. He doesn’t even drink.

    That Biden versus Trump is the best we can get in a nation of over 300 million people is even stupider than what Trump says.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  14. Putin recently changed the constitution to allow himself two more (six-year) terms after his current one runs out in 2024.

    Trump can move to Moscow and be the First Lady of Russia until 2036.

    Dave (1bb933)

  15. I don’t know about First Lady, but like I mentioned in the other thread, the Russian spy services are renowned for rescuing their compromised assets. He could room with Edward Snowden.

    nk (1d9030)

  16. @ 13

    As I have written before, the choice we have, like the last time, is like choosing between diarrhea and constipation. Both painful.

    But, yet again, no one is interested in discussing how we got here. Trump being elected was not a fluke. It is a reaction to 20 years of dishonest garbage. Until that is addressed, the problem will continue.

    Here is example number 1 million and one. A public university invited a convicted, unrepentant terrorist to speak.

    https://www.jweekly.com/2020/09/04/jewish-groups-condemn-plans-for-palestinian-hijacker-leila-khaled-to-speak-at-s-f-state/

    Terrorist here is not figurative — the woman was involved in hijacking a plane, she was convicted, and then traded away for some hostages.

    That a publicly funded university does this, with little note, let alone protest, shows how far we are gone.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  17. @14 Why move. The story I hear is that if he gets re-elected some states will secede and the remaining states might be willing to overturn the 22nd. The No to 22 in ’22 slogan almost writes itself.

    frosty (f27e97)

  18. That’s the thing that makes me actively dislike the man (if you can call him that) so very much.

    He’s just such a whiny little brat. He’s the king of the world, the greatest ever, until he isn’t, at which point it is so unfair, somebody take it up with the authorities, he was robbed.

    And he’s bringing the whole country down to his level.

    john (cd2753)

  19. @16 Until recently blocking access to a hospital would be terrorism. If done in a war zone it would be considered a war crime and it’s against the Geneva Conventions. In LA it’s called mostly peaceful protesting.

    But by all means let’s not forget that Trump says some things people don’t like.

    frosty (f27e97)

  20. But by all means let’s not forget that Trump says some things people don’t like.

    We should definitely not hold the president of the United States to a higher standard than the worst street criminals.

    It’s unfair!

    Dave (1bb933)

  21. @ 20

    That’s a cop out. The question is not what street criminals do, but what their supporters and enablers do.

    Are you going to try to justify a public university inviting a terrorist to speak because they are on the level of street criminals?

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  22. @1/3/5/6 Kevin:

    Jesus laughed– then said, ‘What goes around comes around.':

    REAGAN BACKERS RALLY FOR ALLOWING A 3rd TERM
    Aug. 8, 1986|12 AM United Press International

    WASHINGTON — Partisans of President Reagan rallied noisily Thursday in front of the White House in a campaign to change the Constitution to permit him to seek another term that he insists he does not want.

    “Four more years!” about 300 Reagan supporters chanted, waving signs that urged repeal of the 22nd Amendment, which limits a president to no more than two terms or 10 years in office.

    Rep. Guy Vander Jagt (R-Mich.) introduced legislation last week that would repeal the amendment.

    source- https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-08-08-mn-148-story.html

    Reaganoptics: Trump; he is a GOP creation; spawned and nurtured in Ronnie’s cesspool excesses, championed by conservative ideologues, in the go-go 1980s; the Frankenstein monster locked up in a gilded cage on Fifth Avenue… only to escape, devour and ultimately destroy his very creators.

    Donald Trump is the Reagan Era’s GOP ‘Picture of Dorian Gray.”

    He is you.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  23. . “And then after that, we’ll negotiate, right? Because we’re probably — based on the way we were treated — we are probably entitled to another four after that.”

    The argument here is that his first term was spoiled by unwarranted investigations so in compensation maybe he should get another. But this is not the sort of thing you can put into a consent agreement.

    Sammy Finkelman (ccce11)

  24. Terrorist here is not figurative — the woman was involved in hijacking a plane, she was convicted, and then traded away for some hostages.

    If I was related to someone who died in that event, I would welcome her coming to the US, but I’d make damn sure she did not leave. Then I’d demand a jury trial of my ethnic peers.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  25. After all, none of that which led to the criticism of him could ever possibly be of his own doing.

    Trump has earned all the bad press he gets, just like a Biden will earn four years of beach balls tossed his way — which we already know will happen no matter what he does.

    Amazing how media bias used to be a bread and butter topic for years among “real conservatives”, and now suddenly it’s rarely a problem anymore. I guess the media has just gotten tons better.

    beer ‘n pretzels (d6c4fd)

  26. if he gets re-elected some states will secede

    Podesta’s plan is to demand that CA be broken up into 5 states. It is this abject lack of understanding of the electoral college that cost Hillary in 2016. Any plan to break up CA that is not a contorted gerrymander loses the Democrats a dozen electoral votes. Probably more like 20.

    As for CA seceding, there are about 20 counties that will secede from CA first and dollars to donut-holes the US accepts the latter before it accepts the former.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  27. The answer to Trump’s complaints is that he was such an incompetent fool that he was unable to prevent the opposition’s misuse of every statute and rule that they tortured. That first Hawaiian judge who issued a sweeping B S injunction should have been impeached the next day. Maybe not convicted, but two can play counting-coup, and the appeal would at least go a bit faster.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  28. Leilas near beer, this ones the moppet of a suicide bomber,

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/02/ahed-tamimi-israel-occupation-palestinian-trauma

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  29. REAGAN BACKERS RALLY FOR ALLOWING A 3rd TERM

    Can anyone tell me the difference between someone calling for a third term, and someone’s backers calling for a third term? If so, tell DCSCA because he hasn’t a clue.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  30. I dont care at this point, hes doing it partially tongue in cheek.

    The answer is paul ryan had other priorities,

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  31. Big whoop. Trump humpers agree with this sentiment, although I’m pretty sure they won’t riot in the streets to see it through. I can’t imagine this being the straw that breaks the camel’s back, inasmuch as being the reason Trump loses to Biden. He’ll still win a second term and haters still gon’ hate, yo.

    Gryph (f63000)

  32. What I’m afraid of is that Trump loses, and then is renominated in 2024.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  33. 34. Well that’ll be 2020 redux, cause I’m sure in that case “Biden,” or whoever succeeds that demented old windbag, will probably want another term after their first.

    Gryph (f63000)

  34. OF course, that would probably result in a functioning third party of former Republicans and former Democrats (not wanting to drink AOC’s Koolaid).

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  35. 36. Don’t hold your breath. 3rd party? Maybe. But I’ll believe in a “functioning” 3rd party when I see its development with my own eyes. And even then, I’ll be mighty skeptical of its potential longevity.

    Gryph (f63000)

  36. Maybe someone showed him ‘give me liberty’

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  37. @30. Apparently you’ve never seen a Trump rally.

    It is the picture of Dorian Gray.

    It is you.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  38. Dave (1bb933) — 9/14/2020 @ 6:45 pm

    We should definitely not hold the president of the United States to a higher standard than the worst street criminals.

    It’s unfair!

    By “common street criminals” you mean BLM/A and by “hold to a higher standard” you mean comparing something Trump said about a 3rd term, something that he’s arguably saying to troll, to the action of blocking access to a hospital to two people shot in the head? Or did you mean Ometeotl’s Malcolm X comment? Is he who you mean by common street criminals? You might be in sight of a leg to stand on if this were just between Trump’s comments and the “protesters” outside the hospital chanting for the death of the officers. That’s still an unmatched comparison.

    No, unfair isn’t the word I’d use. I’d go with dishonest, reprehensible, or disgusting.

    frosty (f27e97)

  39. It was a throw away stray voltage, as you call it

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  40. 38.Maybe someone showed him ‘give me liberty’

    More like someone showed the George Will-types the door.

    Many remain stunned and still don’t realize they’ve been Bill Buckley’d. And those who do are terrified that their POV flls on deaf ears and they’re noe on the bottom of the deck– and “will” betray their hollowed principles by voting for a known plagiarist they cheered for quitting in 1988 or otherwise would never support. Because, you know– it’s Trump’s party now.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  41. Its a satirical dystopian graphic novel from frank miller, between his two dark knight offerings.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  42. @16 It looks like a whole panel of terrorists. Honestly it looks like it would be a really interesting panel to watch from a psychological viewpoint, though I wouldn’t want to be in the same room as any of the panelist.

    Nic (896fdf)

  43. Third piece of cake; third scoop of ice cream; third trophy wife… third term.

    Love this guy. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  44. In better angels written in 1979, the eye of gaza actually had european members implant bombs inside them.

    Bolivar di griz (2cbdf1)

  45. Tom Gara
    @tomgara

    The gap between the second wave of coronavirus cases and the second wave of coronavirus deaths is just incredible

    https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1305350754014724096?s=20
    _

    harkin (5cd889)

  46. News of Biden quitting the presidential race because of repeated acts of plagiarism has echoed across the Universe and reached a planet, the size of Neptune, orbiting a star 32 light years from Earth. Any life tuned in may be more distress to learn Magnum,P.I. and Punky Brewster got cancelled, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  47. @51. Bait, hooked– reel’em in.

    Feed The Beast: that’s one way to distract cable news talkers off message. Wait ’til his campaign runs the Space Force spot using clips from ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. It wasn’t just Reagan’s supporters who were supporting a third term. Reagan himself did.

    I remember being surprised that Reagan mentioned changing the law to allow a third term when he spoke at BYU circa 1988. (I was in the audience that day because I was [and still am] a political junkie, and I thought it was so cool that a President would come to my school.) It just goes to show that even good presidents can fall prey to nutty ideas.

    (In his defense, I doubt it was his idea, and he may have fallen for it because he was suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer’s Disease.)

    norcal (a5428a)

  49. The only evidence of a Reagan speech at BYU that I can find was in 1991, after he had left office.

    The article notes that it was the fourth time a president or former president had spoken at BYU. If it was Reagan’s second time, it seems like it might have mentioned that.

    Dave (1bb933)

  50. Yeah, I wasn’t sure of the year. (I went to college on the ten-year plan.) I am certain, however, that Reagan mentioned changing the law to allow for a third term, because it surprised me.

    norcal (a5428a)

  51. Dave,

    That was it. 1991. I just read the article. The article mentions Reagan using the word “boner”. I remember him saying that and thinking it was funny. The article doesn’t mention a third term. Curious. Maybe because it wasn’t an emphasis in his speech?

    Thank you for the correction.

    norcal (a5428a)

  52. Maybe one of the students asked him a question about it?

    It really seems out of character for him to bring it up in his prepared remarks, especially since he was strongly backing Bush and it was about a month before Desert Storm launched.

    Dave (1bb933)

  53. It could have been. I don’t remember clearly. I remember “boner”, him mentioning BYU’s Heisman winner Ty Detmer, and the third term thing. Oh, and the packed crowd. The Marriott Center seemed full, and it holds about 20,000 people.

    Now that I think about it, of course it was 1991! Detmer won the Heisman in 1990! How could I misremember?

    SMDH

    norcal (a5428a)

  54. I have a response to you, but it’s in moderation. It couldn’t be the bone thing, could it? It worked the first time.

    norcal (a5428a)

  55. biden to supporters we just got the green party kicked off the ballot in wisconsin so voters can’t vote for them on the ballot. florida michigan and pennsylvania are next.

    asset (281e3a)

  56. ‘Trump has earned all the bad press he gets…’

    You just don’t get it. There is no ‘bad press’ w/him. Any news that moves the spotlight off him has to be bigfooted ASAP by tweet, presser, medal awarding ceremony, a mideast peace agreement or two… an unmasked rally or just an outrageous statement– like deserving a third term. It’s so predictable and the bait is taken every time. He has Plagiarist JoeyBee endlessly on the defensive and literally running against Mother Nature– fires, viruses, hurricanes… while wearing dead Beau on his sleeve. Is he on drugs? A ‘junkie’?! Joe does make an abnormally odd references to drugs away from the teleprompter. Hilarious. Will he run against thunderstorms next week, too? The “I’m not Trump and will raise your taxes” pitch won’t work either. The “I’m not Reagan and will raise your taxes” pitch didn’t work for Mondale and “I’m not FDR” didn’t work for Wilkie, either. The D’s are going to snatch defeat from the jaws of what should be an easy victory because they’re running a retread who is less and less up for the gig every day.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  57. I think everyone should reread Kipling, “The Man Who Would Be King.” Or a least watch the movie.

    It doesn’t end well. Not for the man who would be king, that is.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  58. Can the gang of 8 be hung at once?

    mg (8cbc69)

  59. BTW, if you really want to see violence, see what happens if NY state or another state puts Trump on trial after ignoring the, um, idiosyncrasies, of past administrations (e.g. Hillary’s open bribe taking).

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/14/2020 @ 6:02 pm

    If there were evidence to support an indictment I think Barr’s DOJ would have issued one. I think the lack of an indictment is evidence that there’s nothing there to support one. I think the continued focus on her corruption is a way to keep the base motivated and excuse Trump’s own open corruption.

    Time123 (53ef45)

  60. The D’s are going to snatch defeat from the jaws of what should be an easy victory because they’re running a retread who is less and less up for the gig every day.

    How about a little wager, say $5000, on the outcome of the election?

    Dave (1bb933)

  61. After he’s dead, I’m probably entitled to piss on Trump’s grave.

    Paul Montagu (cad685)

  62. #65 — You’ll have to go to the Kremlin.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  63. #65 — You’ll have to go to the Kremlin.

    Okay, that’s a bit more of a challenge. 😉
    Trump really did not think ahead. He has no golf resorts in countries that don’t have extradition treaties with the United States.

    Paul Montagu (cad685)

  64. To all the Never Trumpers/Anti-Trumpers, the mask has slipped, and the truth comes out:

    Kamala speaks of ‘a Harris administration together with Joe Biden’

    If Biden wins, she’ll be President as fast as the ink can dry on the Inauguration Speech, and Jill has Joe committed to a mental care facility.

    Horatio (ed0512)

  65. I’m always struck by the incongruity of Trump’s “tough man” act and his juvenile wallowing in victimhood. I would think that any image of toughness would be cancelled by his incessant whining, especially about how the media are such big meanies! Why, they’ve been so mean to him that of course he deserves a third term.

    Roger (a5bda3)

  66. Nobody reads American Thinker except people who already plan to vote for Trump. The GRU will need to find a way to put it on Snapbookittergram.

    nk (1d9030)

  67. Great post by Dana. It’s a technicolor snapshot of why giving Trump the benefit of the doubt is never the smart move. I used to be that guy. Despite long knowing what a truly awful person he was, I’d hear him say something disgusting and write it off as a joke. Then it would inevitably turn out, yeah, he really meant it.

    When he asked Russia for Hillary’s emails on national tv, I told everyone who’d listen, “He’s just trolling. He couldn’t possibly be stupid enough to do that for real.” Well, who’s stupid now? Moi! Anyone who read the Mueller and Senate Intelligence Reports and still claims that’s not exactly what he was doing is either dishonest or impervious to unwelcome evidence. Either way, it’s one of the dozens of times his cult let him skate on something for which they would tar, feather, impeach and prosecute anyone with a “D” next to his name.

    How many times since the “Russia if you’re listening” moment has he said something deeply obscene, watched his apologists spin it against all reason, then throw them under the bus by not only confirming the obscenity of his intention, but doubling and tripling down? So here we go again. I saw him mention the third term, and the sucker in me said he’s obviously kidding. But Dana’s post is a word to the wise. Will he embarrass his apologists one more time? I don’t know. All I know is, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 500 times, get me a brain scan.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  68. To all the Never Trumpers/Anti-Trumpers, the mask has slipped, and the truth comes out:

    Kamala speaks of ‘a Harris administration together with Joe Biden’

    If Biden wins, she’ll be President as fast as the ink can dry on the Inauguration Speech, and Jill has Joe committed to a mental care facility.

    Horatio (ed0512) — 9/15/2020 @ 7:01 am

    Dear Lord NO!!! Not low interest loans to business owners!!?!? What will these communists come up with next?

    “A Harris administration together with Joe Biden as the president of the United States, the Biden-Haris administration will provide access to 100 billion dollars in low-interest loans and investments for minority-business owners,”

    Time123 (53ef45)

  69. 70. lurker (d8c5bc) — 9/15/2020 @ 7:07 am

    . When he asked Russia for Hillary’s emails on national tv, I told everyone who’d listen, “He’s just trolling. He couldn’t possibly be stupid enough to do that for real.”

    He was asking Russia to find something that, as far as we knew, didn’t exist any more, at least accessible remotely: Hillary’s deleted emails.

    The thing is, there was a theory going around that they were still available. And in any case it could have been interpreted as Trump asking Russia to release them.

    He didn’t say he would reward them but he said the media would, but that could be interpreted as code language. (it would also mean he had no private channel of communication with the Rusian government)

    As it is, these deleted emails may have still existed, on Anthony Weiner’s computer, which became subject to a search warrant because he was trading pictures with a 15-year old girl. The FBI deliberately avoided having any human look at these Hillary emails but had them searched by a computer program.

    The next year FBI Director James Comey testified that those Hillary emails that were on Anthony Weiner’s laptop computer had been sent there by Huma Abedin in order to be printed out. He had to walk it back the next week. The next thing we knew, President Trump fired James Comey, and members of Congress were startled at the reaction, but it seems like that was a coincidence. Trump has his own planned reason for firing Comey.

    So here we go again. I saw him mention the third term, and the sucker in me said he’s obviously kidding.

    He is not serious, because he knows the law, but he wants his supporters to take it seriously, thinking that will motivate them more to vote for him.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  70. “A Harris administration together with Joe Biden as the president of the United States, the Biden-Haris administration will provide access to 100 billion dollars in low-interest loans and investments for minority-business owners,”

    Notice any problem with that? (Hint: racial discrimination by a government entity is unconstitutional.)

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  71. 63. Time123 (53ef45) — 9/15/2020 @ 5:54 am

    If there were evidence to support an indictment I think Barr’s DOJ would have issued one. I think the lack of an indictment is evidence that there’s nothing there to support one.

    The evidence, or leads to evidence, might have been in those deleted emails, and Hillary probably had a private e-mail system secure from subpoenas because of the possibility somebody might slip up and leave evidence on government computers.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  72. @76, That’s plausible but not evidence.

    Time123 (53ef45)

  73. Nobody reads American Thinker except people who already plan to vote for Trump. The GRU will need to find a way to put it on Snapbookittergram.

    Are you suggesting she didn’t say it…who do you believe, her, or your own Never/Anti-Tump opinions…or as has been posited may times online:

    “When you are dead, you don’t know you’re dead. The pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when you’re stupid”

    Horatio (ed0512)

  74. That’s plausible but not evidence.

    As Sammy tried to explain to you, the evidence was destroyed. You’re dismissal is nonsensical.

    It seems to be a trend with well placed Democrats, e.g. the Mueller team with their phones.

    beer ‘n pretzels (d6c4fd)

  75. That’s plausible but not evidence.

    As Sammy tried to explain to you, the evidence was destroyed. You’re dismissal is nonsensical.

    In civil cases, there is a concept of spoliation of evidence. If you destroy relevant evidence, the jury can infer that it would be harmful to your case, and that can fill in the evidentiary gap.

    Don’t know if that works in criminal cases.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  76. BnP,

    1. I said initially that based on what’s happened I don’t think there’s evidence to support an indictment. Not that she’s 100% innocent.
    2. emails were destroyed, but that’s far from the only type of evidence that can be presented in a case. Additionally, she only destroyed emails present on her server. If there were evidence of bribery on her server there would be copies on the other side.

    So, I continue to think what I said before is correct, there isn’t evidence to support an indictment against Hillary Clinton for the things Trump has accused her of doing and that if that evidence did exist I would have expected something by now. Trump’s incompetent, but Barr and Sessions weren’t.

    Time123 (53ef45)

  77. Are you suggesting she didn’t say it…

    Totally. If American Thinker told me it was clear and sunny outside, I’d put on my galoshes and take an umbrella.

    “When you are dead, you don’t know you’re dead. The pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when you’re stupid”

    Like whatever. That’s the kind of BS that goes hand in hand with reading American Thinker. But to whatever degree it makes sense to you … why are you, yourself, not mindful of it?

    nk (1d9030)

  78. 65.After he’s dead, I’m probably entitled to piss on Trump’s grave.

    There’s a reason the grass is green over Nixon’s plot. And Reagan’s tomb is built like a cement sewage plant.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  79. In civil cases, there is a concept of spoliation of evidence.

    So what is it when Putin kills the Moscow prostitutes who peed on Trump so they would not be around to confirm the Steele Dossier?

    What? It’s your logic.

    nk (1d9030)

  80. BTW, you might not have heard this, but as much as Trump and his supporters wish that Trump were running against Hillary again, he is not! Not, not, not! And that means that Trump is going to lose, lose. Lose the elector vote and lose the popular vote.

    nk (1d9030)

  81. DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/15/2020 @ 1:42 am

    He has Plagiarist JoeyBee endlessly on the defensive and literally running against Mother Nature– fires, viruses, hurricanes…

    He’s not calling it Mother Nature. He’s attributing all of that Trump ignoring science – never mind that, even if you believe everything they say, that doesn’t check out.

    And with the virus Trump indeed paid attention to the what the public health experts were saying, (perhaps against his better judgment):

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transcript-scott-gottlieb-discusses-coronavirus-on-face-the-nation-september-13-2020

    And what CDC officials were relying on and telling the coronavirus task force was that there was no spread of coronavirus in the United States in February, they were telling them that because they were looking at what we call the influenza-like illness surveillance network, basically a surveillance network of who’s presenting to hospitals with flu-like symptoms. And they said that they’re seeing no spike in people presenting with respiratory symptoms, therefore, coronavirus must not be spreading. And they were adamant about that. I was talking to White House officials over this time period. They [the experts that Joe Biden says Trump should have listened to] were adamant about that.

    What, according to Biden, should Trump have done differently??

    fast track a vaccine?

    He says don’t do it, in spite of laws Congress passed promoting precisely that idea in 2004 and 2009.

    Fast track treatments?

    Ditto.

    Shut down the country, or encourage shutdowns, faster and more thoroughly?

    That’s not a solution. It amounts to treading water, and you can’t ever stop for long. Israeli Prime Minsiter Benjamin Netanyahu made that mistake – he imposed a lockdown and then declared victory – now they sure going to do it all over again, even more than before – and synagogue attendance and gatherings at other people’s dwellings are more important during Tishrei than for Passover – synagogue during Rosh Hashonah and Yom Kippur and visiting other people’s succahs during Sukkot and then there’s Shemini Azeret/Simchat Torah. (one day in Israel)

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  82. @64. Never bet against yourself, Dave; from my POV, it’s a win either way; the objective is to neuter the modern ideological conservative movement. Do lunch w/George Will an explain it him: you’ve both been Bill Buckeley’d. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  83. And a Russian AK-74.

    nk (1d9030)

  84. @88. He’s not calling it Mother Nature. He’s attributing all of that Trump ignoring science – never mind that, even if you believe everything they say, that doesn’t check out.

    Too early for him to declare Hidin’ Biden is running Red against God; Mother Nature will do unil mid-October, Sammy. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  85. @80. Indeed. Several news cycles and all the cable talkers should devote hours to it; thousands of threads on the interweb blogs across the planet, too!!

    Bait; hooked, reel’em in.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  86. you’ve both been Bill Buckeley’d.

    And you’ve been proven a gutless blowhard.

    Again.

    Dave (1bb933)

  87. @3-
    I wonder what the over/under is on assassination attempts if he’s reelected.

    Probably pretty low, given that the most recent assassination attempts occurred when the shooter was close to the President. Trump doesn’t like to close to crowds, and his audiences are pretty friendly.

    The odds of a new impeachment investigation, however, are pretty high.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  88. @95. Only two impeachment investigations? Bankruptcies aside, everything is threes with him; three pieces of cake, three scoops of ice cream; three trophy wives– and three terms. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  89. Roger (a5bda3) — 9/15/2020 @ 7:05 am

    You’d think this would also apply to the NeverTrump honestly and integrity shtick. How many times can someone clutch the pearls and whine about the latest claims from anonymous sources?

    frosty (3ea6aa)

  90. @94. Personal attacks, Davey? Your slip and frustrations are showing. Beneath you. Never bet against yourself: no matter who wins, you lose.

    Do that lunch w/George.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  91. 92. The whole point is that Biden says it isn’t Mother Nature – that it happened because Trump is denying climate change or disputing scientists.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  92. @97. They just don’t get it; feeding the Beast. Few voted against LBJ but for Richard Nixon [and Wallace] to support ‘law & order’- and t end the war. “I’m not Trump and get of my green lawn’ won’t work.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  93. Nurse ratchet or captain pike let me check

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  94. @75-
    Notice any problem with that? (Hint: racial discrimination by a government entity is unconstitutional.)

    There are plenty of federal economic development, education, etc. programs targeting minority communities. Nothing exceptional.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  95. @99. What Biden says is lost in noise of how he is saying it. Yesterday he was literaly ‘outstandin in his field’– a patch of Delaware marsh grass literally ‘with the gear in the rear’ 3,000 miles away from California fires kvetching over satellites imaging smoke. Today he will shake his fist at the high tide– then curse at the Lord’s moon for causing it. He’s hilarious.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  96. Never mind there’s no way to back up that idea. (Biden doesn’t actually say that if some other president had a different attitude toward “climate change” and the methods proposed to combat it, the wildfires and the hurricanes wouldn’t have happened, but he wants people to think that. Like, even if you believed everything they said, that would be practical approach. Cutting back carbon emissions drastically not only can’t be dome; if it were done, it also wouldn’t affect the level of CO2 in the atmosphere enough to matter no matter what model you use.)

    Scott Gottlieb said that the experts were telling the cornavirus task force that the virus was not spreading into the United States. bob Woodward said that in February he thought Trump was talking about he virus in China.

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  97. Oh, it is definitely Mother Nature reacting to a critical viral load of an infection that calls itself Humans. Whether by way of global warming like a fever, or by way of forest fires like skin pustules. Here’s a chart.

    nk (1d9030)

  98. This is stupid. The only one who was entitled to a 3rd term was Bloomberg who got the law overturned to do just that. But he benefited from the law by term limiting Giuliani.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  99. Personal attacks, Davey?

    I thought you’d take it as a compliment, since you work so hard to cultivate that persona.

    Dave (1bb933)

  100. Oh, it is definitely Mother Nature reacting to a critical viral load of an infection that calls itself Humans.

    CHOOSE THE FORM OF THE DESTRUCTOR

    Dave (1bb933)

  101. Nah,

    the Wuhan flu came from the Chinese bio lab. The cell phone data from October shows as much and recent whistleblowers say as much.

    https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/chinese-virologist-says-she-has-proof-covid-19-was-made-in-wuhan-lab/

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  102. @104. A silly gender-reveal fireworks event gone bad or a homeless man’s campfire going rogue igniting these huge fires isn’t due to ‘climate change,’ Sammy. The drought is.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  103. @107. Take the loss, Dave. It took 35 years to auger in from Reagan to Trump.

    Straighten up and “Fly Right” — Look to 2024. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. @105. You mean we’re getting “Chiffon’d”?!?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijVijP-CDVI

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  105. @101. Another massive eia event: a middle east peace event at the White House.

    There’s something for done-nothing-in-45-years-in-government-Joe to shake his fist at today when he wakes up. In Delaware. When he wakes up.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  106. ^eia= media

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  107. If Trump were ahead by seven points, would he be claiming that the election is “rigged”? I think that we all know the answer. If he was still behind in the polls, we knew he would make this unsubstantiated claim again. I know I have predicted it for about two years.

    He is more dangerous than Nixon. God help us if he were to win again.

    noel (9fead1)

  108. @115.”He is more dangerous than Nixon.”

    No. He’s not. Listen to the Nixon tapes. All of them.

    “God help us if he were to win again.”

    “No miracle is coming.” – Joe Biden

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  109. Noted Bibliophobe Donald Trump Claims He Read 466-Page Woodward Book in One Night

    President Trump appeared on Fox & Friends again this morning, rambling on for 45 minutes until the hosts mercifully told him it was time for him to leave. During his appearance he regaled the audience with a brief, pointed review of Bob Woodward’s Rage. Trump is not a fan. “I actually got to read it last night. I read it very quickly and it was very boring,” he explained.
    ……
    The suspicious part is Trump’s claim to have read the entire thing in one evening. Many, many accounts have revealed that Trump has difficulty reading even the briefest summaries. Jim Sciutto’s book, The Madman Theory, amusingly reports that the president’s briefers tried to accommodate his refusal to read intelligence briefings by reducing them to three bullet point summaries on a card, only to figure out that he was only able to make it through the first two bullet points…..
    …….
    Related:
    Host tells Trump that Fox hasn’t agreed he can come on air weekly like he wants
    ……
    At the beginning of the phone interview that lasted more than 45 minutes on “Fox & Friends,” Trump said he has agreed to appear on their show every week, likely on Mondays or Tuesdays.
    …..
    But host Steve Doocy responded, “Mr. President, thank you very much. You may want to do it every week but Fox has not committed to that. We’re going to take it on a case-by-case basis. …..”

    No response was heard from Trump.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    Even Fox is tired of Trump.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  110. 102.

    There are plenty of federal economic development, education, etc. programs targeting minority communities. Nothing exceptional.

    Yes, but they are all unconstitutional, illegal and useless. It probably doesn’t get anybody in business who otherwise wouldn’t be in business. At least businesses that don’t fail. Especially since they are probably liked to stupid business ideas. AOC was one person “helped” by that. She was going to publish children’s books that had a setting in the stories in local minority neighborhoods

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  111. Jim sciutto, lol how many scoops have not panned out.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  112. AOC’s company was maybe not specifically part of a program aimed at minority business owners but was maybe just a “good cause”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6791097/Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortezs-defunct-book-publishing-company-owes-1-870-taxes.html

    The company was founded in order to ‘help develop and identify stories and literature in urban areas ….specifically in communities like The Bronx,’ Ocasio-Cortez says in a 2011 YouTube video.

    Months after recording the video, she filed incorporation papers for her company.

    At the time, Ocasio-Cortez, who is known for supporting higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans, supported doubling tax deductions for small businesses like hers….

    …The publishing house was launched through the Sunshine Bronx Business Incubator, a New York City-subsidized program designed to help small businesses in The Bronx.

    The initiative was headquartered in an old converted factory in the Hunts Point section of The Bronx, where entrepreneurs like Ocasio-Cortez paid monthly rent which ranged between $195 and $275 per person.

    Nonetheless, the company failed to publish a book…

    Sammy Finkelman (42d229)

  113. @116 Since Nixon is, according to multiple anonymous sources, dead, technically, Trump is currently more dangerous. However, if the COVID vaccine causes the zombie apocalypse I’d rate Nixon as pretty dangerous.

    frosty (f27e97)

  114. Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 9/15/2020 @ 11:29 am

    This is an interesting complaint, tired since it’s the standard “Trump is lying” routine, but interesting. Why not criticize him for wasting his time on the book? Complaining about him putting 45m into an open form interview when Biden can’t stay on track for more than 3m without a teleprompter might backfire on you but the first thing I thought when reading your comment is that he has more important things to do than read Woodward’s book.

    frosty (f27e97)

  115. ….when Biden can’t stay on track for more than 3m without a teleprompter might backfire on you …..

    No skin off my nose. I have consistently said I am not voting for President this year (as I did not in 2016).

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  116. This is an interesting complaint, tired since it’s the standard “Trump is lying” routine,

    Ah, so the problem isn’t that Trump lies constantly. It’s that people keep noticing that he’s lying.

    putting 45m into an open form interview

    I would think an “open form interview” might involve some challenging questions, not just some media shills letting him ramble on.

    the first thing I thought when reading your comment is that he has more important things to do than read Woodward’s book.

    Such as watching Fox or OANN? The reason that Trump doesn’t read books is not because he’s always doing more important things. It’s for the same reason that (by many accounts) he doesn’t even do the minimal reading that’s relevant to his responsibility.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  117. The Note: Voters get direct say as Trump faces town-hall audience
    ….
    President Donald Trump will sit down for a 90-minute ABC News town hall with uncommitted Pennsylvania voters at the National Constitution Center, airing at 9 p.m. ET (tonight)…..
    ……
    Bring the popcorn! How many minutes will it be before Trump berates a questioner?

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  118. How many of Obama’s appointed officials came out and said he was an idiot or a threat to the country in his eight years in office? Now, add up all of Trump’s appointees that have done the same. And let’s just include the top officials that we are all familiar with.

    I am tired of conservative excuses for this. Their willful blindness. Sure, sure. I know. It’s the “deep state” or something. I suppose it’s too much to ask that his supporters hold Trump responsible for those deep state appointments? You know…. before they give him his second or third term in office.

    noel (9fead1)

  119. My excuse is that I don’t want Democrats to win. End of story.

    …and this “Third Term” crap is just red meat for his rabid base. Nothing more. No one believes that has a chance to amend the constitution.

    whembly (c30c83)

  120. Radegunda,

    Did you not see the Jonathan Swan’s interview of Trump on Axios last month? It is full of challenging questions. You should watch it, and then ask yourself if Biden would ever submit to that kind of interview.

    norcal (a5428a)

  121. Appalled,

    Thank you for providing the link @67 that supports my memory of Reagan being in favor of a third term.

    norcal (a5428a)

  122. Pat, Dana, or Junior Varsity,

    My comment at 58 is in the pokey for some unfathomable reason. Would you please liberate it?

    norcal (a5428a)

  123. …the Wuhan flu came from the Chinese bio lab.

    FakeNews.

    “This thing is a killer if it gets you. If you’re the wrong person, you don’t have a chance.”
    –Donald J. Trump, April 13, 2020, said in private to Bob Woodward

    “LIBERATE MICHIGAN”
    “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!”
    –Donald J. Trump, April 17, 2020

    Paul Montagu (cad685)

  124. The Woodward tapes of Trump should be his undoing (on top of other things) but they won’t because even with his own voice admitting these things, his devotees won’t spend a second thinking about it. They won’t even one why would he say one thing in private, and then lie to the rest of us? They won’t question his integrity or his intentional dishonesty to voters. If they do think about it, it will only be to launch an attack: FAKE NEWS! President Trump is being unfairly maligned…Democrats will do anything to try and make him lose the election. Woodward is a Democrat. So…

    Dana (292df6)

  125. Dana,

    See my request at 132.

    norcal (a5428a)

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