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8/24/2020

Trump, The RNC, And The Big Week Ahead

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:17 am



[guest post by Dana]

With the GOP convention beginning today, the RNC has decided to back the Trump agenda of “core priorities” rather than adopting a new platform for 2020. Reports says that the break from tradition is the result of pandemic protocols restricting convention practices.

Here is Trump’s second-term agenda, which the campaign says “build on the incredible achievements of President Donald J. Trump’s first term in office… under the banner of “Fighting for You!” I’m posting the full list of goals:

Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 Months
• Create 1 Million New Small Businesses
• Cut Taxes to Boost Take-Home Pay and Keep Jobs in America
• Enact Fair Trade Deals that Protect American Jobs
• “Made in America” Tax Credits
• Expand Opportunity Zones
• Continue Deregulatory Agenda for Energy Independence

ERADICATE COVID-19
• Develop a Vaccine by The End Of 2020
• Return to Normal in 2021
• Make All Critical Medicines and Supplies for Healthcare Workers in The United States
• Refill Stockpiles and Prepare for Future Pandemics

END OUR RELIANCE ON CHINA
• Bring Back 1 Million Manufacturing Jobs from China
• Tax Credits for Companies that Bring Back Jobs from China
• Allow 100% Expensing Deductions for Essential Industries like Pharmaceuticals and Robotics who Bring Back their Manufacturing to the United States
• No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China
• Hold China Fully Accountable for Allowing the Virus to Spread around the World

HEALTHCARE
• Cut Prescription Drug Prices
• Put Patients and Doctors Back in Charge of our Healthcare System
• Lower Healthcare Insurance Premiums
• End Surprise Billing
• Cover All Pre-Existing Conditions
• Protect Social Security and Medicare
• Protect Our Veterans and Provide World-Class Healthcare and Services

EDUCATION
• Provide School Choice to Every Child in America
• Teach American Exceptionalism

DRAIN THE SWAMP
• Pass Congressional Term Limits
• End Bureaucratic Government Bullying of U.S. Citizens and Small Businesses
• Expose Washington’s Money Trail and Delegate Powers Back to People and States
• Drain the Globalist Swamp by Taking on International Organizations That Hurt American Citizens

DEFEND OUR POLICE
• Fully Fund and Hire More Police and Law Enforcement Officers
• Increase Criminal Penalties for Assaults on Law Enforcement Officers
• Prosecute Drive-By Shootings as Acts of Domestic Terrorism
• Bring Violent Extremist Groups Like ANTIFA to Justice
• End Cashless Bail and Keep Dangerous Criminals Locked Up until Trial

END ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND PROTECT AMERICAN WORKERS
• Block Illegal Immigrants from Becoming Eligible for Taxpayer-Funded Welfare, Healthcare, and Free College Tuition
• Mandatory Deportation for Non-Citizen Gang Members
• Dismantle Human Trafficking Networks
• End Sanctuary Cities to Restore our Neighborhoods and Protect our Families
• Prohibit American Companies from Replacing United States Citizens with Lower-Cost Foreign Workers
• Require New Immigrants to Be Able to Support Themselves Financially

INNOVATE FOR THE FUTURE
• Launch Space Force, Establish Permanent Manned Presence on The Moon and Send the First Manned Mission to Mars
• Build the World’s Greatest Infrastructure System
• Win the Race to 5G and Establish a National High-Speed Wireless Internet Network
• Continue to Lead the World in Access to the Cleanest Drinking Water and Cleanest Air
• Partner with Other Nations to Clean Up our Planet’s Oceans

AMERICA FIRST FOREIGN POLICY
• Stop Endless Wars and Bring Our Troops Home
• Get Allies to Pay their Fair Share
• Maintain and Expand America’s Unrivaled Military Strength
• Wipe Out Global Terrorists Who Threaten to Harm Americans
• Build a Great Cybersecurity Defense System and Missile Defense System

In an unusual move, Trump will be speaking every night of the convention to defend himself and push back against the attacks made by Democrats at their convention last week. In another unusual move, the president is scheduled to accept his party’s nomination on Thursday night from the White House. Democrats are complaining about the decision, with Pelosi saying that using the White House for a political event “degrades” it. (It should be noted that Roosevelt accepted his party’s nomination in a televised broadcast from the White House.) There are also concerns that federal employees involved with preparing the President’s speech might be violating the Hatch Act:

Democrats, and even some Republicans, have expressed concerns that federal employees who would be assisting Trump with the speech would essentially be campaigning for the president, a violation of the Hatch Act.

“For the president of the United States to degrade once again the White House, as he has done over and over again, by saying he’s going to completely politicize it, is something that should be rejected right out of hand,” said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi during an interview on MSNBC last week.

In the agency’s [OSC] initial letter, officials wrote that while Trump could deliver the speech from the White House since he is exempt from the Hatch Act, there could be Hatch Act implications “for those employees, depending on their level of involvement with the event and their position in the White House.” In the follow-up letter on Monday, the agency said it is prohibited from issuing advisory opinions on the criminal provisions of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, an apparent response to a question from the committee.

And here’s an interesting tidbit:

Also appearing at the convention this week will be:

Mark and Patricia McCloskey are set to participate in the convention on Monday…The McCloskeys garnered national attention in June for brandishing their guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside their home in St. Louis…Nick Sandmann, a former student of Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky, is also expected to speak Tuesday…the parents of humanitarian aid worker Kayla Mueller, who was killed by ISIS in 2015; as well as Alice Johnson, a woman who was serving life in prison until Trump commuted her sentence…

In spite of all this, I am reminded:

–Dana

421 Responses to “Trump, The RNC, And The Big Week Ahead”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (292df6)

  2. I have one quibble over the stellar list of agendas:
    • Pass Congressional Term Limits

    I eyes just twitch…

    WE CAN VOTE THEM OUT EVERY 2 YEARS! We, the voters can limit their tenure by voting for the other guy.

    Besides, that requires a Constitutional amendment and LOTS of political capital. Neva gunna happen.

    whembly (c30c83)

  3. In an unusual move, Trump will be speaking every night of the convention to defend himself and push back against the attacks made by Democrats at their convention last week.

    “The bride at every wedding, the baby at every christening, and the corpse at every funeral.”

    Attributed to Teddy Roosevelt’s daughter speaking about her father. If only Trump was like Teddy Roosevelt in any other way.

    nk (1d9030)

  4. Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

    Time123 (653992)

  5. It’s disgusting that one of the speakers at the RNC tonight will be Archbishop of New York Timothy Dolan. As a reminder, with the Vatican’s approval he moved $50 million into a trust so that it could not be paid out to sexual abuse victims. This was revealed in the courts in 2013. He also reportedly turned a blind eye to children being sexually abused by a fellow priest.

    Dana (292df6)

  6. I’ll watch just as much of it as I watched of the DNC. No more no less. I promise.

    nk (1d9030)

  7. It’s morning in America.

    Plagiarist JoeyBee has no public campaign events scheduled for today.

    ‘No miracle is coming.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  8. The Vatican helped a lot of ex-Nazis, too.

    So glad I’m Presbyterian. Just like our glorious Fuhrer- errrr, leader, Donald John Trump! 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  9. Well, our Constitutionally protected civil rights must be suspended because “pandemic,” but the Hatch Act must be be fully applied!

    felipe (023cc9)

  10. In an unusual move, Trump will be speaking every night of the convention to defend himself and push back against the attacks made by Democrats at their convention last week.

    His Karma is glowing like torchlights: Florida just put him over the top– he is speaking right now in Charlottesville.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  11. Count your blessings if you live in a place where voting matters, and politics are often corny and boring. It is the peak of human society and you are lucky!

    — Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) August 19, 2020

    Actually, manned spaceflight is the ‘peak of human society.’ And it began w/a Russian named Yur Gagarin, Garry. Checkmate, comrade.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. @7-
    To quote the late Cong. Joe Wilson, “You lie!” Your ‘No miracle is coming” quote is soooo misleading. The “quote” was directed at President Trump, not the American people:

    The President keeps telling us the virus is going to disappear. He keeps waiting for a miracle. Well, I have news for him, no miracle is coming.

    The truth is more powerful than a misleading quote. It is true that the COVID-19 will not miraculously disappear.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  13. Dana (292df6) — 8/24/2020 @ 9:30 am

    Yes, Dana that was most heinous and unjust! What we still don’t know could be far worse. May God have mercy on his soul.

    felipe (023cc9)

  14. @12. The truth is more powerful than a misleading quote.

    Misleading?? “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is
    no virtue.”

    No miracle is coming.

    Welcome to 1964.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  15. So glad I’m Presbyterian. Just like our glorious Fuhrer- errrr, leader, Donald John Trump! 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/24/2020 @ 9:37 am

    I had already guessed that. Presbyterianism was the cover religion of Comintern agents (they were in fact committed atheists) because all they needed to know was the dictionary definition of Christianity.

    nk (1d9030)

  16. Observation- when it comes to being media savvy, this guy is brilliant. Rather than hiding in a basement behind a mask doing taped segments, he’s bigfooting everything, right ou of the gate, chattering away w/o a mask or a teleprompter, adlibbing and gobbling up TeeVee time w/a tele-presence that makes Plagiarist JoeyBee look like the scarecrow in a graveyard.

    What. A. Showman.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  17. @16. OTOH, haven’t been to an organized church service in over 52 years– last buck extorted into a collection plate: April, 1968.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  18. So an atheist is admitted into a Catholic hospital, and the admissions nurse asks him his religion. He says: “None.” The nurse writes down: “Protestant.”

    nk (1d9030)

  19. that would be episcopalian, so the mccloskeys targeted by the corrupt prosecutor, odd how we haven’t had updates on that matter,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  20. @19. ROFLMAO

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  21. That 2nd term agenda list is disgraceful and sounds like a gotdam Communist Manifesto!

    Where is the commitment to encourage Antifa and BLM protests to continue — FIRST AMENDMENT!
    Where is the commitment to encourage other cultures to come to America for free — WHATEVER AMENDMENT!
    WHERE is the commitment to finally SHUT DOWN GITMO!?…………………..Habeus Corpus?!

    I encourage all of you NOT TO VOTE for this idiot running for president!

    And if this is not enough, may I remind you that Trump is on video saying “pus*y” AND he was impeached fair and square!

    He’s gonna put you ALL back in cages!

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  22. my friend clarice, hunted down nazis who were admitted into this country, largely from eastern europe and central asia,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  23. This is incredible- the media contrast between Trump and Biden is absolutely electric.

    What Trump is actually saying is completely irrelevant–but the image he is projecting is one of being awake, active, energetic, positive– and above all, ALIVE. He is beating Biden by simply talking. That’s the ‘miracle,’ Joe.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  24. @17

    Joey B has a kinda of Kumbaya vibe going, complete with crystals, amulets, and an entire media doing Sufi twirling on his behalf.

    TRUMP CANNOT TOP THIS, MAN!!

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  25. @17

    Joey B has a kinda of Kumbaya vibe going, complete with crystals, amulets, and an entire media doing Sufi twirling on his behalf.

    TRUMP CANNOT TOP THIS, MAN!

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  26. when you say he’s ‘beating’ Biden…what are you looking at to assess that? I know you like Trump better. But it’s hard to find poling data that show people agree with you.

    Time123 (653992)

  27. @24

    Its just a con job, man… he’ll do anything…. he said “pus*y” on live national TV!

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  28. @28. It works.

    Look how many Americans bought Pet Rocks, Salad Shooters– and Reaganomics.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  29. There’s absolutely no way Plagiarist JoeyBee could riff like Trump is doing w/o stepping on half a dozen of his own land mines and dropping three grenades down his pants.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  30. “my friend clarice, hunted down nazis ”

    I really like and admire this, ie women excelling at non-traditional roles.
    They can be deadly… some of Russia’s best snipers in WWII were women.

    Saw one of these cop videos (where their chest mounted camera catches all their actions) and the cop was female, gave this drugged out maniac a warning to “Drop the knife” which he had to his hostages throat, who he was also hiding behind… she warned him again… he pulled the hostage closer, knife closer, then she shot him once in his shoulder which was a small target, and as he exposed more of his body as he loosened his grip on his hostage, she put four more in him.

    Calm and cool and by the book.

    She told him she wasn’t kidding… I guess he didn’t believe her.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  31. @31

    Oh, the lady cop was white and the guy she killed was white…. no rioting, no big funerals, no utter chaos for weeks.

    The dead guy was simply the wrong color.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  32. our president mr donald who is more of an orange supremacist than a white supremacist has been officially renominated

    failmerica is saved

    Dave (1bb933)

  33. @30

    Riff? You mean just spew out whatever random thoughts are going through his head with no care at all if they make any sense?

    “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”

    Manotaur (0c90cd)

  34. Blocking script=>Edit=>erase MAOA=>type Eyefull=>Save=>Test=>It worked, no Cyrillic letters.

    nk (1d9030)

  35. nk (1d9030) — 8/24/2020 @ 10:44 am

    What took you so long? I take it back; You were demonstrating patience.

    felipe (023cc9)

  36. Half of the speakers are Trumps

    Probably trying to front-load them, before more tapes revealing their honest opinions of the @$!@% leak out…

    It might be too late for Melania already, though:

    Melania Trump’s Ex-Adviser Reportedly Taped the First Lady Bashing Trump and His Adult Children For New Book

    Dave (1bb933)

  37. @27

    when you say he’s ‘beating’ Biden…what are you looking at to assess that? I know you like Trump better. But it’s hard to find poling data that show people agree with you.

    Time123 (653992) — 8/24/2020 @ 10:21 am

    We couldn’t find any polling in 2016 that Trump was beating Clinton either… so, there is that.

    whembly (c30c83)

  38. Thats getting as old as the belushi cheese burger sketch, i dont trust russians very much, i trust marxists even less

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  39. “Melania? I don’t really know her. I used to see her around sometimes. I wish her well.”

    nk (1d9030)

  40. You know, some of us had to use ZOOM meetings to come up with a practical plan that entirely changes the classroom teaching model in response to a pandemic in order to educate thousands of school children for an indeterminate length of time. The RNC can’t use it to come up with a list.

    Nic (896fdf)

  41. Reportedly, like chris steeles drinking game, or clinesmith clever edited memos

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  42. A list of empty promises, none of which will be kept, and nebulous policy proposals, none of which will come to fruition, just like in 2016. It’s the Trump Show! GONG!

    But he does know how to pander to his cult-of-personality base, I will grant him that.

    It comes down to belief perseverance and contradiction denial, which ultimately are the basis of every con. The mark will always praise the con man, even after he or she has lost everything and been totally humiliated. “He was such a nice guy,” they will say, in poverty, destitution and bankruptcy.

    Donald Trump is an abject failure as a man, in life, in business, and in office. He has no redeeming qualities. The most tragic part of it all is, if he’s going down in flames, he’s taking the entire country with him. There is no limit to the harm he can do to this once great nation between now and January 2021, and beyond, through his ignorance, corruption, narcissism, neuroses, victimology, and psychological dementia.

    It is going to take years, perhaps decades, for the good people of this nation to recover from the election of this ignoramus. I honestly don’t think the Republican party will ever recover from nominating him in the first place, and that I believe is a fitting reckoning for their pitiful abandonment of principles, values and morals.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  43. OT: Read. Every. Word. Here:
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/clinesmiths-guilty-plea-the-perfect-snapshot-of-crossfire-hurricane-duplicity/

    Particularly:

    It dawned on the SSA that he would be expected to swear, under penalty of perjury, that he believed there was probable cause to conclude that Page was a clandestine agent of Russia, working against the United States. Page’s public protestations gave him pause. They also created a potentially catastrophic problem for the bureau, which the SSA later summarized for the IG (I’d italicize — but I’d have to italicize every word):

    [If Page] was being tasked by another agency, especially if he was being tasked to engage Russians, then it would absolutely be relevant for the Court to know . . . [and] could also seriously impact the predication of our entire investigation, which focused on [Page’s] close and continuous contact with Russian/Russia-linked individuals.

    If Page had been a CIA operative during meetings with Russians — meetings that the FBI had sworn to the court showed Page was a traitorous spy — then the FBI would have some serious explaining to do. And if it turned out that, before applying under oath for the warrants, the FBI had been informed by the CIA that Page was a CIA operative, then the FBI would be humiliated.

    whembly (c30c83)

  44. From the NYT:

    “What they’re doing is using covid to steal an election,” Trump says of Democrats, without evidence.

    He knows he’s performed absymally in his response to the pandemic but will gladly transform his failure into a political tool to excuse his bad management accuse Democrats of politicizing it.

    Also, he has already framed any potential loss as not possibly being his fault for being a lousy candidate:

    “the only way they can take this election away from us is if it’s a rigged election.”

    How about because Americans are so fed up with you, they say no to another four years of your chaotic antics!

    Dana (292df6)

  45. No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China

    That will have an effect, and is something Trump can do with his pen.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  46. But why just China?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  47. How about because Americans are so fed up with you, they say no to another four years of your chaotic antics!

    At the end of last week, his paid liar refused to answer the question:

    “Does the president believe there is any circumstance under which he could lose the election fairly?”

    Dave (1bb933)

  48. If only Trump was like Teddy Roosevelt in any other way.

    Well, he’s big. He’s confident. He’s rich. He’s got gobs of popular support. He tore the Republican Party a new assh0le.

    Now, if you had said “If only he had Teddy Roosevelt’s qualities” there wouldn’t be a response.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  49. No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China

    So much for economic freedom and competitiveness.

    Dave (1bb933)

  50. He is beating Biden by simply talking.

    DCSCA could get a WH job easy. Trump likes to hear this kind of thing every day.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  51. Maybe we should just put the government in direct control of peoples’ businesses, eh?

    Big Brother knows best!

    Dave (1bb933)

  52. @34. You really don’t get it. It’s a sign of an active, energetic human being — and of life.

    No miracle is coming.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  53. 52… CCP appreciates your efforts, comrade.

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  54. @53. Reaganaurics.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  55. So much for economic freedom and competitiveness.

    The DoD not only won’t let these contracts now, but use of a PART sourced in China will cause them to reject electronic goods.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  56. Unlike nixon who saddled us with unneccesary agencies,that served

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  57. “He knows he’s performed absymally in his response to the pandemic but will gladly transform his failure into a political tool to excuse his bad management accuse Democrats of politicizing it.”

    As it stands, the actual Covid death toll in the USA is about 90% less than Fauci originally estimated.

    If that is abysmal to you, then fine.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  58. So much for economic freedom and competitiveness.

    Because that’s what federal contracts are all about!

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  59. As it stands, the actual Covid death toll in the USA is about 90% less than Fauci originally estimated.

    You should really stop saying this, it makes you look stupid.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  60. As it stands, the actual Covid death toll in the USA is about 90% less than Fauci originally estimated.

    LOL

    Dave (1bb933)

  61. Like a deer-in-the-headlights, even with a softball interview… https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/08/asked-if-he-was-already-prepping-for.html

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  62. No Federal Contracts for Companies who Outsource to China

    That will have an effect, and is something Trump can do with his pen.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/24/2020 @ 11:02 am

    It sounds good, but leaves a lot to be explained.
    For instance; ‘Define ‘outsource’. Do you just mean closing down a US plant and moving production to china or does it include sourcing a new component to a Chinese manufacturer?

    Next Question: Are ALL GE components banned if they move any production to China?

    Time123 (653992)

  63. Donald Trump is an abject failure as a man, in life, in business, and in office. He has no redeeming qualities. The most tragic part of it all is, if he’s going down in flames, he’s taking the entire country with him. There is no limit to the harm he can do to this once great nation between now and January 2021, and beyond, through his ignorance, corruption, narcissism, neuroses, victimology, and psychological dementia.

    Gawain’s Ghost (b25cd1) — 8/24/2020 @ 10:56 am

    I do not agree with any of this. The hyperbole asks too much of me, even the remarkable list of character flaws he, indeed possesses, does not support your contention of limitless harm.

    felipe (023cc9)

  64. Not sure, but guess how many components the DoD is accepting from China.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  65. Nazi david spade endorses captain pike, now it doesnt matter anymore.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  66. The most tragic part of it all is, if he’s going down in flames, he’s taking the entire country with him.

    True, but not as you state it. The harm will come after Jan 20th

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  67. National GE, Among Independents:
    Trump 47% (+10)
    Biden 37%

    @YouGovAmerica/@CBSNewsPoll, LV, 8/20-22

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  68. Donald Trump is an abject failure as a man, in life, in business, and in office. He has no redeeming qualities.

    Shorter: a capitalist.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  69. Donald Trump is an abject failure as a man, in life, in business, and in office. He has no redeeming qualities. The most tragic part of it all is, if he’s going down in flames, he’s taking the entire country with him. There is no limit to the harm he can do to this once great nation between now and January 2021, and beyond, through his ignorance, corruption, narcissism, neuroses, victimology, and psychological dementia.

    It is going to take years, perhaps decades, for the good people of this nation to recover from the election of this ignoramus. I honestly don’t think the Republican party will ever recover from nominating him in the first place, and that I believe is a fitting reckoning for their pitiful abandonment of principles, values and morals.

    ROFLMAO: ‘No miracle is coming.’ – Joe Biden 8/20/20

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/24/2020 @ 11:02 am

    Look, I love ya, bro, but I am not down for the “look at his supporters” approach. I prefer the “look at his policies” approach because the former distracts away from the issues, while the latter focuses it on the issues.

    felipe (023cc9)

  71. @74, also it took all of 10 minutes for the Biden campaign to notice and tell that Alt-Right Neo Nazi to bug off.

    Time123 (653992)

  72. What’s really funny is that the people that were making excuses for him are now openly calling him a white supremacist.

    Time123 (653992)

  73. Good Lord, George Conway – late of teh Lincoln Grifter Project – alleged to have diddled his daughter?

    He does have that look…

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  74. Nazi david spade spent too much time at dike, but he was a big thing as late as this morning

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  75. @77 link?

    Time123 (653992)

  76. When is Slow Joe going to disavow and reject the endorsement of the Revolutionary Communist Party USA?

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  77. Trump 47% (+10)
    Biden 37%
    Colonel Haiku (5243a2) — 8/24/2020 @ 11:30 am

    I remind everyone that I am in that +10 of Independents and I plead with other undecided Indies to join us.

    felipe (023cc9)

  78. and I plead with other undecided Indies to join us

    .

    felipe (023cc9)

  79. Complete list of YouGov national polls in August:

    Biden +11
    Biden +10 (the one Haiku cherry-picked)
    Biden +10
    Biden +9
    Biden +11
    Biden +10
    Biden +10
    Biden +9

    Dave (1bb933)

  80. 81… good to hear, felipe!

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  81. Time, I know a fine fellow such as yourself probably shares many values and principles with a guy like George Conway, but you probably draw the line at sexual abuse of children.

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  82. 85… 8/20 – 8/22 was poll date… let’s see… what had just wrapped up? … oh yeah DNC Shamvention

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  83. He down with CCP…

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  84. @87. OTOH, Trump arrived in Charlottesville w/Ivanka, who limoed w/Daddy to the media site and is looking quite hot, if not ‘dateable’ today in heels and a lovely dress.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  85. @87, CH, All I know about GC is that he’s a lawyer with a second career as an insult comic whose entire act is based on Trump. Some of his stuff is funny.

    I don’t know if the abuse mentioned is sexual in nature, the links don’t assert that. She could also mean physical abuse, or emotional abuse. If it’s sexual or physical I’d like to see her get the help she needs and him the justice he deserves. If it’s emotional then I hope they all get the help they need. I googled to see if there were allegations of sexual abuse but didn’t see any results.

    Claudia says her dad doesn’t care about her and has even been abusive to her,

    Time123 (653992)

  86. just another susan rosenberg production,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtyELAJKQO8

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  87. 92… I’d heard “sexually abusive” when my wife played it for me (she was across the room) but I just listened to it again and she does say “physically abusive”, so I misheard it.

    This feeds into a long-running gag between me and my wife, who ALLEGES I need to have my hearing checked.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  88. @95, i read but didn’t listen. After listening it’s clear she’s accusing both of her parents of physically abusing her. Which is really sad.

    Time123 (653992)

  89. Doesn’t sound like it’s going to well:

    A senior GOP strategist, who is not a “Never Trumper” and often gives the president the benefit of the doubt, tells me: “If what we just heard is a preview of the President’s message for the week, he loses and we lose. We can kiss the Senate goodbye if the tone doesn’t change.”

    Dana (f905d7)

  90. @98 …a CNN “anonymous” source for what its worth. (not much)

    whembly (c30c83)

  91. he’s in tip top shape, take that to the bank,

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/08/asked-if-he-was-already-prepping-for.html

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  92. @62

    From March 30, 2020 NBC News.

    “Dr. Anthony Fauci that U.S. deaths could range from 1.6 million to 2.2 million is a worst case scenario”

    From CDC

    “This week’s national ensemble forecast predicts that 3,700 to 9,600 new COVID-19 deaths will be reported during the week ending September 12 and that 187,000 to 205,000 total COVID-19 deaths will be reported by that date.”

    If my math is correct, 205,000 is 1,995,500 less than 2,200,000 or -90.6%.

    You should really stop ignoring or changing original factual statements from credible sources.
    It makes you look stupid.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  93. @101 You don’t appear to understand the difference between an estimated outcome and a worst case scenario.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  94. @92. Time123, I am not a lawyer. Although I certainly could be a licensed attorney in the state of Texas in a matter of months. All I would have to do is pass the bar exam. That’s it, no college or law degree required. I have two bachelor’s degrees, a master’s degree, and a lifetime teaching that is valid in 38 states and 14 foreign countries–I passed all the requisite exams, the ACT, the SAT, the GRE–what passing is the bar exam to me?

    It is actually more difficult to become a licensed teacher or realtor, than it is to become a licensed attorney, in the state of Texas. The first absolutely requires a college degree, with mandatory courses in education. The second does not require a college degree, but the Texas Real Estate Commission certainly requires mandatory courses in real estate law, contracts, principles and ethics, marketing and advertising, the business of real estate–you cannot even apply to take the licensing test without completing these courses and passing all their exams.

    No so with an attorney’s license. No courses, no degrees, no testing or certification is required. All you have to do is pass the bar.

    I figure it would, realistically, take me about six weeks, maybe two months to prepare. Simply read some books from the law library, learn up on the vernacular, then sit and observe in the chambers of a couple of trials.

    The indictment against Trumps would be an easy filing.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  95. @101 Thank you governors, for taking action instead of pretending it would all just go away if they wished hard enough.

    Nic (896fdf)

  96. In fact it is you, Eyefull, who looks stupid, by failing to acknowledge the basis for Fauci’s March forecast was worse case scenario and what the death toll would look like if the government did nothing. Fortunately, state and local governments did something, while the Feds did as little as possible. This what accounts for the current death toll.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  97. 103

    I think I understand just fine.

    At the time, the estimated outcome was given by Fauci, deemed to be THE world expert.

    All I did was show the numbers and do the math.

    Even if you take their “best case” scenario from March, we are still in much better shape.

    What else could they have possibly given other than estimated outcomes in March with a new and unpredictable virus?

    That’s all they had, but one doesn’t rewrite or redefine history because its perceived to be inconvenient
    to one’s social or political beliefs.

    What numbers would you use and why?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  98. It was the ferguson model, which included the flatline that he couldnt abide by.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  99. 105… Democrat governors of several states did a measurably schiffy job, but yeah, you should thank them.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  100. CBS News/Yougov Poll:

    US Dealing with Coronavirus:
    Overall: 62% Going badly
    Reps: 73% Going well

    Number of Deaths Have Been:
    Democrats: 90% Unacceptable
    Independents: 67% Unacceptable
    Republicans: %7% Acceptable

    The death cult approves.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  101. I’m a bit skeptical GG, but maybe I overestimate the difficulty of the bar exam.

    While the ability to think and reason well must surely help, my impression is that it involves a lot of memorization and it’s not a test a very smart person could pass on just the strength of their innate intelligence. In fact I suspect those are the people (unlearned in the law) that it aims to weed out.

    Dave (1bb933)

  102. 106

    “In fact it is you, Eyefull, who looks stupid, by failing to acknowledge the basis for Fauci’s March forecast was worse case scenario and what the death toll would look like if the government did nothing.”

    LOL, I posted the link to the article in which that is clearly stated!

    READ, my friend, READ!

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  103. 98.Doesn’t sound like it’s going to well:

    Maybe he/she outta look instead of listening. It’s a Trump TeeVee tour-de-force.

    The man looks alive — in vivid contrast to the basement cadaver who makes Norman Bates’ mother look better than 79 year old Raquel Welch.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. 110… the one poll that will count won’t be for another few months. Get your rending garments, knee pads and mouthguard ready, it will be a crushing defeat for you lefties.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  105. Its as genuine as the love for ellen degeneres oops scratch that.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  106. And thats a genuine as mr communes with trees fan fiction.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  107. @107

    I estimate that it will take 45 minutes to get home. Worst case scenario is 4 hours if I don’t get gas and have to wait for road side assistance.

    Both numbers are accurate in context.

    All computer models are wrong, but some are useful. I think the reporting on these models was terrible because none of it explained how the models could, and should, be used.

    To answer your question:
    I wouldn’t asses our performance relative to a model. It’s more accurate to asses our performance to other, similar countries. The definition of ‘similar’ is obviously subject to debate.

    Time123 (653992)

  108. @109 In fact we should all thank them. Some of them may have made some mistakes (misjudged their timing, gave the wrong directions in several cases), but across the country most governors, including the ones who made mistakes, acted in at least some ways meant to reduce the virus numbers in their states. Without the actions on their parts, we would be in a much much worse situation.

    @111 Different states have different bar difficulties. California has a very difficult one, Texas may not.

    Nic (896fdf)

  109. King Baker of taxachusetts has us at #3 in deaths thanks to his old folks home blunder as well as the Vets he killed oh and were # 1 in unemployment

    mg (8cbc69)

  110. @114. This isn’t a left-right fight; it’s a living vs., the living dead election. Only a Joe Biden could make Tom Dewey’s little-man-on-top-of-the-wedding-cake persona appear appetizing– and alive.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  111. Shes back on the sauce.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mizdonna/status/1297988803240525826

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  112. 117

    Thank you for an intelligent and considered response. (though waiting on the road for gas for 4 hours is a bit out of bounds, since you have considerable experience with your drive home, know how to be prepared, etc…. the virus was a total unknown at the time)

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  113. “Even if you take their “best case” scenario from March, we are still in much better shape.”

    The epidemic isn’t over.

    The current estimate is 250k deaths by the time of the election, which is not “much better shape”.

    The epidemic won’t be over then, either.

    Davethulhu (0bbb0a)

  114. You’re welcome.

    The way modeling has been and still is being misused annoys me.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  115. @118 I sometimes kid myself about going back to school and getting a law degree after I retire.

    While it would would be ridiculously expensive, I figure I could prove my professional bona fides by paying for it with a bunch of student loans that I won’t live long enough to repay…

    Whoever dies deepest in debt wins!

    Dave (1bb933)

  116. @123 our performance relative to a model is interesting but far less informative than our performance relative to other similar countries.

    Time123 (653992)

  117. @125 Hey, if you want to stick it to the banks, I say go for it.

    Nic (896fdf)

  118. Banks, hell. They’re all pikers compared to my rich Uncle Sam.

    Dave (1bb933)

  119. Biden actually believes he can run for president from his basement. You can make $ selling seeds from your garage, too, Joe! It says so in ads in old copies of Boy’s Life.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  120. 123

    It will never be over, most likely.

    Look at the really considerable deaths from the flu each year.
    Its a major killer. But we all ignore it now. Certainly don’t shut anything down.

    Thanks, China, for your new contribution from Pandora’s Box.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  121. 124

    I agree modeling has been terribly abused.

    Look at the Global Warming idiocy.

    According to Al Gore’s models, we should all be under water, dead or some other nonsense.

    But comparing the US virus situation to the rest of the world would be a monumental task.

    It would be impossible to effectively screen variables and account for them — for instance rioting, non-conforming leaders, non-conforming citizens, tiny countries, huge countries, reliable reporting… you get the picture.

    Don’t know that it would be worth it or even possible.

    History will eventually tell the tale

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  122. 131

    Boy’s Life… Ol’ Joe used to be a boy… used to watch across the tracks at young Corn Pop making switch blades outta ol’ beer cans… the real ones beer cans, the strong ones… that’s when Young Joe knew (inspired by Mighty Joe Young) he was gonna face off Corn Pop one day with a chain and wrap it round his skull after Boys lives watched the hair on his legs float up and down in the swimming pool where he would be life guard one day and lead the people into the light…

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  123. This fellow madrigal was touted as an authority

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1297992070200733701

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  124. But comparing the US virus situation to the rest of the world would be a monumental task.

    Depends on how close you want to count.

    Among larger, western countries, we’re doing very poorly. That’s pretty easy to see.

    Also, since outdoor transmission has been very low the protests don’t appear to have started large outbreaks in many areas.

    I expect the bike rally will be similar.

    Time123 (653992)

  125. When we do the post-mortem oc Covid-19, the biggest failure will be testing and how the decision to rely on lab-based viral-load tests that took over a week to report made impossible the normal self-quarantine that usually occurs. If only we had cheap, trivial home tests — even if they were less sensitive — this would have been gone by summer 2020. But no. Then they will conclude it was Trump’s fault (because the guy who left always gets the blame), and maybe it was.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  126. Jerry Falwell Jr. agrees to resign from Liberty University
    Jerry Falwell Jr. has agreed to resign as president of Liberty University on Monday, according to a school official. The move came after a series of personal scandals rocked the evangelical university he has led since 2007.

    Opposition to his presidency had been growing but came to a dramatic head after two new reports about a young man Falwell and his wife befriended at a Florida pool, went into business with and who allegedly was sexually connected to the couple. One report painted Falwell as the victim of an obsessive affair; the other as an eager participant manipulating a naive young man.

    Falwell had been placed on paid leave Aug. 7 after he posted a provocative picture of himself and his wife’s assistant on social media. Both had their zippers partially down and Falwell was holding a dark beverage he joked was nonalcoholic and “just a prop.” Drinking or being around alcohol as well as sexual promiscuity are banned for students under Liberty’s personal code of conduct. Liberty board members had said in a statement Friday that they were investigating.
    …….

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  127. GG,

    The Texas Bar has a law study requirement for admission now. See Rule 3.

    DRJ (aede82)

  128. Jeez… Pelosi just can’t help herself:

    https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1297985842934427651
    UNHINGED: Nancy Pelosi labels Republicans “domestic enemies…enemies of the state”

    whembly (c30c83)

  129. Kevin, I heard he’s stepping down from his job to spend more time watch his family.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  130. 138. There’s more to it- affairs, creepy behavior…. you know, the farce known as conservative family values. The oly hing hat could spice this up more is a little seasoning from Kelly Anne Conway.

    “Never mind what I told you. I’m telling you!” – The Captain [James Cagney] ‘Mister Roberts’ 1955

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  131. Jerry should have know never to go into business with a guy that’s screwing your wife. Even if he lets you watch.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  132. Biden actually believes he can run for president from his basement. Hey, Joe, you can make $ selling copies and subscriptions to GRIT from your garage, too! It says so in ads in old copies of DC Comics!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  133. 135, aaahh, that’s the Madrigal you were talking about…I thought it was a White Sox rookie Nick Madrigal who went 0 for 4 the same night you responded between nk insult posts. (“Has Madrigal stopped embarrassing himself?”)

    urbanleftbehind (95f45a)

  134. Wait a minute. Just because Jerry Falwell Jr. is a years-long cuckold, doesn’t mean he can’t speak at the GOP convention, right?

    Paul Montagu (e7d63b)

  135. No wonder Spencer switched sides, Paul.

    urbanleftbehind (95f45a)

  136. @146. Reaganoptics.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  137. 125… Whoever dies deepest in debt wins!

    Spoken like a childless, middle-aged academic.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  138. 125, 128… public service… pay extra attention when this hits the 1:30 mark for some good, helpful advice for teh both of youse…

    https://youtu.be/4eHBeAJCl8o

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  139. @150 I’m pretty sure that your credit report doesn’t matter to you when you are dead. Also, you appear to be having trouble with humor today. Perhaps percussive maintenance might help.

    Nic (896fdf)

  140. it would be awkward, meanwhile kenosha courthouse goes up in flames,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  141. Good Lord, George Conway – late of teh Lincoln Grifter Project – alleged to have diddled his daughter?

    That’s not what TMZ said.

    Paul Montagu (e7d63b)

  142. Tmz, the devil’s scouring pad,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  143. 151… an honorable person pays his or her debts. In what remains of the video, the father explains that to his child.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  144. 153… yes, as was subsequently noted.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  145. More 156… deadbeat sh*tbirds don’t normally value the peace of mind that being debt free can bring.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  146. 153. That’s not what TMZ said.

    Good grief! The POS piece of sh!t that left that here at Comment 77 should not be allowed here anymore, but that’s not my decision.

    Patterico?

    nk (1d9030)

  147. @156 Still having trouble with the sense of humor, eh?

    Nic (896fdf)

  148. The ability to have wealth to leave for our children and grandkids when we pass away is one of our (wife and I) priorities. It will hopefully help them deal with what will be coming.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  149. This nk fellow seems to have some real issues.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  150. 140

    Nancy and her flock… my my!

    The Democrats and Never Trumpers seem to be trying to lose this election on purpose.

    The GOP really just needs to show their achievements, platform, and play unadulterated videos of Dems.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  151. @163 I have bad news about the platform…

    Nic (896fdf)

  152. RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Jerry Falwell Jr. tells Virginia news outlet that reports he has resigned are “completely false.”

    https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1298032605464530944

    lol

    Davethulhu (0bbb0a)

  153. 164

    The platform looks good to me, referring to the list Dana proudly posted at the top of this thread.

    What do you disagree with there?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  154. the keyboard gestapo wants to make a arrest

    mg (8cbc69)

  155. Good grief! The POS piece of sh!t that left that here at Comment 77 should not be allowed here anymore, but that’s not my decision.

    Patterico?

    Seems like a vacation is in order. It’s the latest of several, so this one will be of undetermined length, as in, reinstatement comes whenever — or *if* — I get around to it.

    This nk fellow seems to have some real issues.

    You too, Eyefull.

    Who else? I’m in a send people on vacation mood.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  156. Thank you, Patterico.

    nk (1d9030)

  157. @166 They took someone else’s badly done homework, put their name on it, and turned it in.

    It isn’t cohesive, doesn’t contain any plans, half of it is stuff the Rs. don’t believe in or don’t care about or is in there only for purposely owning the libs. Some of it isn’t constitutionally possible. Some of it contradicts itself. Significant portions of it would send the debt soaring beyond the stratosphere.

    Nic (896fdf)

  158. Last week it was the Chase Center; tonight, the Mellon Auditorium.

    That’s why Uncle Sam uses the American Express Platinum Card.

    Don’t rule Rome without it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  159. the debt escalated when boooosh and the rinos had the senate and the house, the best thing is having trump set fire to the pitiful republican party

    mg (8cbc69)

  160. So far, the women are prettier at the RNC.

    The Donald’s Team knows TeeVee.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  161. having graham and mcConnell lose would be sweet

    mg (8cbc69)

  162. McConnell is teed up this cycle. Graham as a nasty habit of surviving but then, he has no self-respect or principles. He’s a GOP survivor.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  163. “ Spoken like a childless, middle-aged academic.”

    – Colonel Haiku

    Even by your abysmally low standards of tackiness, that is tacky. As was your flagrantly baseless “clown-nose on“ accusation earlier in the thread that George Conway has sexually abused his own daughter. Did I miss some link that you provided that supported that accusation in any way, shape, or form? Or are you just an utterly shameless hack?

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  164. Surprise: CNN airs Biden commercial as Gaetz speaks. Though should Gaetz shower, the EPA has to be notified– there’s enough grease in his hair to make French Fries.

    Brylcreem- a little dab’ll do ‘ya, Matt.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  165. RNC watch:

    1st speaker: isn’t very good, though I agree that churches are more important than casinos, but for the love of Pete this isn’t the most important election since 1860.

    Rebecca Friedrichs: Hates unions. Like, that is her total schtick. She really hates unions.

    Tanya Weinreis: Montana Business owner. Best speaker yet. Worried about the shutdowns, Happy abt the PPP loans. Christian.

    Matt Gaetz: This idiot. Uses antithesis tricolon. Good speaker, bad speech. Massive fearmongering fanfic written entirely of talking points. And cliches. He researched “REAL AMERICANS SAY…” on the internet and strung those phrases together.

    Winner so far: Rebecca Friedrichs

    Nic (896fdf)

  166. OMG Ronna– hit the salad bar!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  167. So far, the women are prettier at the RNC.

    Whiter, certainly.

    Dave (1bb933)

  168. @180. White is a pretty cool color, Davey.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  169. @180. Davey, you ever watch- actually watch the imagery in Riefenstahl’s ‘Triumph Of The Will’ ???

    Saw it again this weekend. See how these image are rolling out?

    Leni nailed it. Trump’s team has watched it; they’re nailing it, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  170. @184. See #183.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  171. @185. 183- see 184. LOL

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  172. Careful DCSCA, your kayfabe is slipping.

    Davethulhu (0bbb0a)

  173. Biden’s niece worked as an assistant to a mid-level, career (not politically appointed) bureaucrat. Nothing in the article supports the claim that “Biden hired” her. It’s just a lie.

    Dave (1bb933)

  174. Ronna Romney McDaniel: Says she’s a real housewife but Eva Longoria isn’t. Is RNC chair. I don’t think she has any better claim to normal housewifery than Eva Longoria. She’s one of the attack dogs tonight. Speaks well. Also uses rhetorical tricolon. ROFL Trump has “a deep love for family?” WHO LET THAT LINE THROUGH?

    Rollcall video: Not particularly well produced beginning, better 2nd half. They did a good job of including diversity, but I see a lot of people in the roll call who may end up having to be covid tested next week. They should’ve just let the people talk and not projected Trump right after and/or between them.

    Amy Ford: West Virginia Nurse. Not a great speaker. Telling obvious lies about Trump and covid. I don’t know enough about telehealth itself to comment.

    ROFL commercial about how Trump did with covid. Also uses scaryvoice and mean music. Are they trying to get people to tune out?

    Dr. Ghali: Not a great speaker, but probably presenting the best possible face for Trump’s (terrible) covid response.

    Winner in this segment: McDaniel for style, Ghali for content.

    Nic (896fdf)

  175. @187. She had a good eye- but Spielberg hooked into better tales you really sink your teeth into.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  176. @184 Welcome to 1934, eh?

    Dave (1bb933)

  177. “ROFL Trump has “a deep love for family?” ”

    Trump loves families so much he’s had 3 of them.

    Davethulhu (0bbb0a)

  178. Eisenstein’s Alexander Nevsky beat Riefenstahl six ways from Sunday. You can’t have theater without Jews, gays, and gypsies.

    nk (1d9030)

  179. Trump took zinc.

    Health tip: don’t suck on pennies, kids.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  180. @193. Nah. Riefenstahl went a goosestep fuehrer. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  181. Does putting on sunblock and taking a dip in the pool count as chloroquine and zinc?

    nk (1d9030)

  182. I watched it, TOTW, because I’d read what a “great orator” Hitler was and I wanted to see for myself. He sounded like a barking dog to me. I did learn that SS is pronounced ess, a letter in its right in the German alphabet, not es-es, and that Rudolf Hess did not look at all like Laurence Olivier.

    nk (1d9030)

  183. No uglies here tonight– and American flags as ‘angel wings’ imaged behind the ladies.

    Trump’s TeeVee producers are good–so far.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  184. Nobody has done more for the sanctity of marriage than Donald Trump.

    Dave (1bb933)

  185. a letter in its *own* right

    nk (1d9030)

  186. I don’t really have any problem with that list of goals. I just don’t think that Trump can deliver on most of them, and is more likely to do those goals serious harm.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  187. @198. It’s the flow of imagery that’s key.

    What he ‘said’ is irrelevant. Just like Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  188. Any cocktail waitress in any Las Vegas casino is prettier (and younger), DCSCA.

    nk (1d9030)

  189. I did learn that SS is pronounced ess

    Esszet

    Never trust people who use funny-looking letters

    Dave (a64a40)

  190. Watch the camera cuts in cadence w/t speaker, and the prevalence of ground up camera shots.

    Whoever is producing this is good. Very good– at television.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  191. Trump is talking. Sigh. “China virus.” Sigh. Trump stands in a kinda socially distanced but unmasked room, thanking only white people. Who proceed to suck up to him. Sigh. Englewood LEO had nothing to say. Neither did the CA LEO.

    Jim Jordan: Talking points talking points talking points. Bo. ring. Trump “cares about people?” WHO LET THAT LINE THROUGH? IT ISN’T EVEN A GOOD STORY. JIM JORDAN MADE HIM TALK TO A GRIEVING DAD. Er, “business destroyed by the mob maybe doesn’t bring up the image you intended.”

    Hershel Walker: Football player. Not a bad speaker, but I don’t actually believe him. Spoke effectively though.

    Natalie Harp?: Cancer survivor. Had a bad experience with a doctor. Works on the campaign. Hates the idea of government run healthcare. Trying (very apparently) very hard. Why is she talking to Trump instead of the possible voters?

    Vernon Jones- D. Georgia: Good speaker. Individualist. I’m pretty sure that Trump didn’t end the incarceration of Black people. Like school choice. Supports LEO.

    Winner: Vernon Jones.

    Nic (896fdf)

  192. @204. Or Atlantic City. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  193. This is a much smoother production- so far, than the DNC coughed out.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  194. Like the Founders? I believe the same phoneme is in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as a kind of f shape?

    nk (1d9030)

  195. Watch the cuts and camera motion— television hates static images. You won’t see a static image for long on this. It’s surprisingly well done so far.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  196. Yeah, I never completely trusted those leftist rioters, looters, and tea vandals. Crispus Attucks, George Floyd … were they all that different from BLM?

    nk (1d9030)

  197. Sigh. “China virus.” Sigh.

    The term is specifically designed to elicit vacuous reactions.

    Works like a charm.

    beer ‘n pretzels (b4ffb7)

  198. Kimberly always reminds me of one of the network bimbos who’s be perched on a bar stool at Hurley’s near Rock Center after six on a Friday night, sucking on a Virginia Slims and a martini, with one red JimmyChoo dangling off her foot.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  199. Andrew Pollack: Lost daughter in school shooting. Doesn’t understand what restorative justice is (it isn’t my thing, but it’s not what he described). Also doesn’t like restorative justice.

    McCloskeys: We are looking much better dressed and civilized tonight. Mrs. McCloskey, you didn’t know what you were doing, that’s why people offered you advice on using a firearm. You were doing it wrong. Er, condos /= crime. Probably should’ve stuck to a reasonable defense on right to self defense. They are NOT good speakers.

    Kimberly Guilfoyle: NOT!BLONDE OMG! V. shouty. Lady, that’s the microphone’s job, you don’t need to project that much. All the talking points. Just talking points. Moving to Puerto Rico to the mainland doesn’t make you an immigrant. Puerto Ricans are US citizens. Very Very Shouty. Borrowed from Reagan “shining city on the hill”. So very shouty. Oh, God, I thought she was done after “destiny”. Lady, that was your stopping point. She is not good.

    Nic (896fdf)

  200. Man, for an ex-Foxie, she was over-the-top-bad. Hope Donnie Jr., has had his shots.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  201. @215 (oh, forgot, no winner that round, they were all bad)

    Nic (896fdf)

  202. Kimberly Guilfoyle: NOT!BLONDE OMG!

    She’s shagging the boss’ son.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  203. Time, I know a fine fellow such as yourself probably shares many values and principles with a guy like George Conway, but you probably draw the line at sexual abuse of children.

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2) — 8/24/2020 @ 11:49 am

    I must have missed where you provided a link for such an awful suggestion.

    Dana (292df6)

  204. As much as you may disagree w/Scalise– it’s hard not to admire him standing there and his recovery after getting shot and nearly dying. He’s not cowering in a basement.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  205. Yes aspersions can only be cast against trump personnel and even family

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1298075621092990976

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  206. This has been an amazingly smooth television production. No glitches, no ‘rise up’ music… just positive imagery.

    So far.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  207. Scalise: Everyone was either in commercial or with talking heads. Apparently no one likes Scalese.

    Sean Parnell: Running for congress. Former Army, deployed Afghanistan. Pro 2nd amendment. Feels like Dems hate normal Americans. Economy cliches. Also, none of those jobs returned. Dem outreach. Not a bad speaker. Best of the professional politician speakers tonight so far. Which isn’t saying much, I’m afraid.

    The tonality of this commercial isn’t great. The idea started good with an uplifing message, but then it got out in the weeds, and though the tone was supposed to be uplifting, it sounded slightly foreboding instead.

    And another commercial with a foreboding tone, even though it is trying to have a positive message.

    Nic (896fdf)

  208. @223. Watch it on CSPAN 1. No interruptions.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  209. @224. It’s actually a surprisingly good television production, Dana. Expected it to be more ‘hack’– but it has been pretty smooth, particularly compared to the DNC presentation.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  210. I’ll pass, DCSCA. (I accidentally deleted my 224 comment to which you were responding…sorry about that.)

    Dana (292df6)

  211. “ I must have missed where you provided a link for such an awful suggestion.”

    – Dana

    Yeah. Utterly slanderous and despicably malicious allegations are all well and good in HaikuWorld.

    I’m generally not a huge fan of defamation suits, but man oh man could I make an exception for a certain class of internet goon.

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  212. Nikki!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There is your next GOP president. Bob your hair let a little grey in nd keep that hit of a southern accent. You’re in, girl.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  213. You know that Patterico banned him for it, about four hours ago, up the thread?

    nk (1d9030)

  214. Donald, she’s naturally tanned, rested and ready– Race Bannon looks like he needs more time with his family.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  215. The situation is bad enough as it is. A family is in distress, the media is eating it up, an adolescent is acting out like they are prone to do, and parents have been screwing up just as they are prone to do. I’m glad they are both making a decision (or having it made for them, who cares…) to stay home and focus on their kid who needs strong and consistent parenting and love. So to make a suggestion of someting so vile is just another move to exploit a situation to titillate and shock.

    Dana (292df6)

  216. Dana, no joke- I’m surprised at how well produced this has been so far. It is watchable.

    Nikki Haley is doing a superb job. She’s giving her ‘Obama’ speech. She’s on deck.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  217. I saw P’s comment, nk, but wasn’t sure to whom he was referring because Haiku’s comment was still parked at 77, so I thought maybe someone else had said something even worse. I emailed him for confirmation. Thanks for confirming that it was indeed Haiku.

    Dana (292df6)

  218. I was offended that he was using this site to plant the disinformation for its debut.

    nk (1d9030)

  219. At the laundromat, I saw some dude mesmerized by the Sikh princess on one of the monitors …probably going to witness a domestic incident involving his wife.

    urbanleftbehind (95f45a)

  220. That, and that it was so vile.

    Dana (292df6)

  221. Trump is talking again. It would be a good idea to let the former hostages talk. Why is Trump sucking up to Erdogan? 2nd guy really likes ambassador O’Brien. There is a non-white person in the room. No one is masked. They are not social distanced. Trump didn’t do too badly at keeping quiet in this segment.

    Maximo Alvarez: Cuban refugee, current business owner. calls Trump a family man. I wish they would stop that, it’s such a blatant lie. Is triggered by implications of socialism and social unrest (and I do mean actually psychologically triggered, not the nasty sarcastic version or the trivial version). Speaking very well, despite the heavy accent and that he is laboring hard to get the English out.

    Nikki Haley: Sounds like a Miss America/ Emmy awards voiceover announcer. Easy to listen to, but also v. easy to tune out. She’s been much more charismatic in the past. What happened? Is it just that she’s clearly just reciting what feels like a very frequently given canned campaign speech? I don’t hate it, she just isn’t as interesting as I’ve seen her be. She looks great though. That’s a fab dress.

    @224 I was more interested in what the RNC was going to do than the DNC. I knew what the DNC was going to do.

    @225 My godforsaken cable company has moved it somewhere.

    Nic (896fdf)

  222. The weakest so far- Donnie Jr.,& Kimberly. He’s jerking round to much; they could have done w/o those two.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  223. Kimberly and Donnie Jr., had one RedBull too many before going on camera.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  224. She looks great though. That’s a fab dress.

    Ok, for fashion I will tune in.

    Dana (292df6)

  225. Really, if you cant be angry at this hurricane of mob violence which isnt an abstract thing, but focus on hawaiian shirts.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  226. I guess this insurrection conjured up by a terrorist who evaded her full quotient of justice doesnt matter.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  227. Is that directed at me, Bolivar di griz?

    Dana (292df6)

  228. She looks great though. That’s a fab dress.

    Nic, that little smile at the end– won my heart– and my vote!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  229. Actually, the one they should prepare for elected office is Eric’s wife Lara.

    I do like the main set with the columns…its a good juxtaposition of traditional and timeless with bright and bold.

    urbanleftbehind (95f45a)

  230. Memo to Donnie Jr.,
    Be brief.
    Be sincere.
    Be the f– seated.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  231. Parnell is one of many who have fought in the long war, only to come homr and see the dems support a domestic insurgency, hes up against a slippery fellow in conor lamb who pretended to be a moderate and then rubberstamped the pelosi agenda.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  232. Junior. Ugh. He’s not a terrible speaker. Also a little shouty. Better than daddy anyway. He’s not saying anything that hasn’t been said already, though. 2nd big attack dog of the night. The Trump tax cuts sucked for most of us. Finger quotes are not a good look for anyone. A little trouble with his transitions there. I’m glad the founding father’s weren’t primarily concerned with staying safe and secure with the status quo. I’m also pretty sure that the descendants of slave might think that freeing them from slavery and recognizing their status as actual people might have been the most important civil rights issue. Several of the Trumps seem to struggle with the “perfect family” part of things you can have, despite their fortune. Tiny outreach, badly done. Oh, good, he actually stopped at the stopping point of his speech.

    Next RNC commercial, lady business holders. The best of their commercials yet.

    @239 I think he picked up the gestures from Daddy. There’s a lot of similarity there.

    Nic (896fdf)

  233. If it had been the DNC, Donnie Jr.would have gotten the jester cane from Showtime at the Apollo or the Chacal from Sabado Gigante.

    urbanleftbehind (95f45a)

  234. @246. Watch the camera movements and technical director making cuts in cadence w/t speeches– and the low angle camera shots from the floor and rising up and around. Plenty of motion- limited static shots. It’s very well produced.

    So far.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  235. Haiku did retract at #95 his comment at #77 so, to me, not banworthy or scoldworthy. I didn’t see the latter because I was still scrolling down.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  236. i also wish that the police would not shoot unarmed black men seven times in the back in front of their kids, mr. Bolivar di griz

    they’re doing it on purpose just to give mr. president donald trump a sad, i think

    because they know that he doesn’t care what people say he won’t stay in a world without love

    and on the first night of the convention, too

    nk (1d9030)

  237. I missed the ban, but think it bespeaks decency and dignity. Thanks for pointing it out nk.

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  238. I saw a good part of the speeches, although I was in and out of napping. Ms. Haley gave the best performance, bar none, as expected for the likely 2024 nominee. Tim Scott is pretty good, too.
    Jon Voight must’ve been given a roofie before narrating that alt-history revisionist garbage.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  239. How are things with you, Leviticus?

    nk (1d9030)

  240. “ Haiku did retract at #95 his comment at #77 so, to me, not banworthy or scoldworthy.”

    – Paul Montagu

    Because he knew what was coming, no doubt. Or was his “question” to Time123 also just a misreading of a TMZ article?

    Flagrant 2. Ejected.

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  241. I stopped believing in ‘peaceful demonstrations’ around the time the mcdonals went up in flames in minneapolis.abetted by the walz moppet who gave their ‘room to destroy’ interval

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  242. Pence should be bumped upstairstthe head office and made Ambassador to the Court of St. James in London and Nikki hoisted aboard as VEEP. Trump/Haley would be unbeatable.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  243. It’s not the kind of thing you post on someone else’s site, twice, and only when challenged “retract” it with a joke about your wife saying you’re losing your hearing. It smacked purely of planting internet disinformation to me. I had Haiku blocked and it didn’t “get legs” with me until I saw Paul reference it. That’s when I reacted to it.

    nk (1d9030)

  244. Tim Scott: R, S. Carolina: He failed ALL his humanities classes in 9th grade? Opportunity Zones is a good talking point. Weird sudden sound change. Did a fairly a good job of positive messaging and then wandered off into unnecessary negativity. Trump’s tax cut still sucked. Scott was the right choice for concluding speaker tonight, but he should have stayed positive. It was the right tone (though he managed the tone OK, even when going negative). I wonder if he runs in 4 yrs.

    @241 Her makeup was on point. The hair isn’t bad, but DCSCA isn’t wrong, a shiny, swingy, sharp bob would look great. The dress was great. You should see if you can find a pic online somewhere.

    Nic (896fdf)

  245. Just noticed– you see the logo says TRUMP 2020.

    No mention of Pence.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  246. Yeah, Haiku’s reply to Dave was cross-the-line personal.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  247. not everyone would have the steely eyed courage to look straight into the camera and shrug off the deaths of 175000 failmericans and counting

    thats what separates mr donald the president also known as trump from mere mortals

    Dave (1bb933)

  248. CSPAN caller reaction should be interesting.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  249. Production in general: Quite good. They did a good job with the pre-recorded speeches as well as the live ones.

    The RNC commercials: Not good. The tone was full of forboding and negativity until the last one before Haley with the two sisters.

    Speakers in general: The regular people sounded better than the politicians for the most part. The politicians mostly sounded very cookie cutter talking points.

    Best speaker of the night: Tim Scott.

    General overall judgement: So far all in for Trump rather than a more general party focus, which is what I was curious about. We’ll see how the rest of the time goes.

    Nic (896fdf)

  250. Can’t complain, nk. My wife, baby, and extended family are healthy and happy, and I’ve got a job and I enjoy it. Not much spare time these days, but when I have some I’m playing chess and reading. So: satisfied, albeit a bit stir crazy. We take the baby on long drives, so she can nap and we can be out of the house.

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  251. How bout you?

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  252. MSNBC panelists are frothing at the mouth.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  253. Best speaker of the night: Tim Scott.

    Worst- by far, Kimberly. Way over the top.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  254. She showed a bit more enthusiasm granted

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  255. You can tell by looking at the eyes of the CNN/MSNBC talking heads– they’re spooked; worried by what they saw. Their eyes lack sparkle and betray concern.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  256. An orange pig with lipstick is still an orange pig.

    Dave (1bb933)

  257. Nikki is a lovely shade of brown, Davey.

    And not a pig.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  258. Regarding Trump’s List of Mostly Unachievable Aspirations, Dana (I can’t bring myself to call it an agenda because Trump doesn’t strategize or make Big Plans), it was in part a second chance at answering Hannity’s question about what his 2nd term priorities were, because let’s not forget Trump’s first shot at answering Hannity’s question…

    “One of the things that will be really great — the word experience is still good, I always say talent is more important than experience, I’ve always said that — but the word experience is a very important word, a very important meaning, I never did this before, I never slept over in Washington, I was in Washington, I think, 17 times, all of a sudden I’m president of the United States, you know the story, I’m riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady and I say, ‘this is great,’ but I didn’t know very many people in Washington, it wasn’t my thing, I was from Manhattan, from New York, now I know everybody, and I have great people in the administration, you make some mistakes like, you know, an idiot like Bolton, the only thing he wanted to do was drop bombs on everybody, you don’t have to drop bombs on everybody, you don’t have to kill people.”

    I deliberately removed all the periods because it was really a record-breaking run-on sentence.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  259. As far as I can tell, there were no live speeches, all of them were pre-taped. Also, every single thing every single speaker said about Covid was a blatant lie. As for everything else, mostly lies. But the second category of lies was to attempt to cover up for the fact that 177,000 dead Americans of Covid in the last 6 months.

    Policy proposals and priorities identified with something “plan-like” zero, zilch, nada, nothing.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  260. Memo to CNN’s whining, Van-worried-eyes-Jones:

    No miracle is coming.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  261. MAGAATT, Trump 2020. Make America Great Again…Again…This Time.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  262. These talking heads are freaking out.

    Home run, Donald. Their eyes were on the pinstripes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  263. We’re moving the daughter into her college dorm at the end of the week, Leviticus. Otherwise, everything is the same. We’re all healthy, thank God, and doing our best to avoid “interesting times”.

    nk (1d9030)

  264. @276 I didn’t watch (who could bear?) but from peoples’ summaries (thanks Nic!) it sounded like three hours of rainbows and unicorns punctuated by periodic opportunities for the munchkins to bow down to the Great and Powerful Oz.

    Dave (1bb933)

  265. @282. The Wizard Of Oz was nominated for a Best Picture Oscar and won two Oscars- one for Best Music and another for Best Song. They’re ‘Over The Rainbow’ at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue tonight, Davey.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  266. As opposed to the cracked fairy tale from last week, which was sound and fury signifying nothing.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  267. Never forget- in this era, Americans don’t want to be governed; they wish to be entertained.

    And tonight was a helluva well produced show.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  268. The 2020 GOP platform was so quickly jettisoned and replaced with Trumpism that the RNC misspelled “resolved”. Yay, GOP.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  269. @270 I agree. I don’t understand why she was yelling like a PE coach whose students are across the football field.

    @282 You’re welcome. I want to see how they are going to handle things. Oddly, it didn’t feel like unicorns and rainbows. It felt… angry? But in kind of a passive agressive way? Punctuated by your munchkins.

    Nic (896fdf)

  270. That was quick. The first night of the GOP convention was a lie-fest.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  271. @287. Paul, per my comment at #214: Kimberly always reminds me of one of the network bimbos who’d be perched on a barstool at Hurley’s near Rock Center after six on a Friday night, sucking on a Virginia Slims and on her third martini, with one red Jimmy Choo dangling off her foot.

    Those high-mileage hussies were stacked up like shuttles leaving LaGuardia. I’m not kidding- our offices were at 1211 6th at the time, 2nd floor– where Fox broadcasts from now, near Hurley’s.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  272. What has been going for the last three months, warrants outrage, as opposed the orher broke girl* who has the undestanding of a thimble,

    *cortez

    I think haley with her syrupy twang underplayed the crisis, capitulation on the confederate flag only emboldened them

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  273. traitors, mr. Bolivar di griz, poltroons and traitors

    mr. president donald trump, who in the day sweats it out on the streets of runaway american dreams, is surrounded by poltroons and traitors who in turn fail him or stymie him

    if life is fair, he should get a do-over of his first term

    nk (1d9030)

  274. And that’s how you grievance when you’re the incumbent and your scandals outnumber your successes.

    nk (1d9030)

  275. I don’t understand why she was yelling like a PE coach whose students are across the football field.

    If she gets the job she’s auditioning for, it could be worth a lot of money to her.

    Dave (1bb933)

  276. This bug will go away stop treating it like the athenian plague where pericles perished, the damage of the flatline ans the firestorm of rioting that remains to ve seen.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  277. Interesting

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/ukrainian-flagged-spy-danger-trump-had-extensive-contact

    In the papandreaou there were actual kgb mouthpieces

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  278. today failmericas savior mr donald was greeted by adoring groupies chanting four more years

    but he told them to chant twelve more years instead

    so they did

    Dave (1bb933)

  279. If she gets the job she’s auditioning for, it could be worth a lot of money to her

    She already got the role as Donnie’s Dominatrix.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  280. @292. And that’s how you grievance when you’re the incumbent and your scandals outnumber your successes.

    Or you cut a cut-up LP. 😉

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrDkZiCOwhQ

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  281. The Lincoln Project goes after Jared:

    Evil

    Dave (1bb933)

  282. But remember the solon isnt in favor even those hes pledged twice

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2020/08/buffalo-considering-defunding-police-its-murder-daniel-greenfield/

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  283. they sing “a hundred years”, “sto lat” in polish, at polish weddings, mr. dave

    i know, i’ve been to one

    i sat with other old married people

    we snickered

    nk (1d9030)

  284. I did learn something tonite, when that Millennial turnip from Turning Point USA told me that Trump is the “bodyguard of western civilization”. I did not know that. Now I know that my choice is between saving western civilization and a life that is nasty, brutish and short. Thank you, RNC, for clarifying.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  285. bodyguard of western civilization

    If I were a golf course, I’d be feeling pretty damn safe.

    Dave (1bb933)

  286. Guilfoyle’s performance was a little bewildering. The Dean Scream was only a few seconds and easy to label, but the Kimberly Quack took a whole six minutes.
    Also a little off is that Donald Jr. is nine years Guilfoyle’s junior, and that she was married to Gavin Newsom. The word “climber” comes to mind.

    Paul Montagu (266bdf)

  287. @305.=crack= Donnie’s Dominatrix leaves whiplash.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  288. There’s a Stones tune that reminds me…
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iudmMgbAAmI

    Paul Montagu (266bdf)

  289. That can work for either Jr., Donald or Jerry.

    Paul Montagu (266bdf)

  290. since we haven’t revised this travesty of justice, because there are more important peeves,

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/24/democrats-protect-criminals-honest-citizens-st-louis-missouri-gun-wielding-couple-republican-national-convention/

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  291. Watched most of the RNC last night… was MUCH better and well done than any of the 4 days of the DNC snorefest.

    I thought both Tim Scott and Nikki were great.

    My fav was Maximo… Seriously, everyone should what his speech.

    whembly (c30c83)

  292. . (It should be noted that Roosevelt accepted his party’s nomination in a televised broadcast from the White House.)

    Experimental television. This statement could be misleading.

    There was some broadcasting going on in 1939 and 1940, then it stopped.

    Nobody had any sets.

    It started again about 1946. That year televisions were present in bars. That business model didn’t work.

    It became a bit present in homes in 1947. That year “Meet the Press” started, which used to be panel, not a single host.

    The transition from radio to television happened over the course of four years: 1948 through 1952.

    By 1952 most prime time shows had migrated to television.

    Soap operas continued on radio till about 1959.

    The Arthur Godfrey show stayed on radio till 1968. On CBS.

    Television was black and white even though color had been available since 1953. And that was delayed. The FCC had wanted a system in which color signals were compatible with black and white, and could be seen on black and white TVs. That delayed approval till 1953.

    Color broadcasting began in earnest in 1965. Prime time shows were shot in color from about that time.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  293. I have undone the Colonel’s moderation.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  294. Banning Trump supporters, allowing anything as long as it insults Trump and his ilk.

    Sigh. It’s going to be a long 4 years for NeverTrump.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  295. And just like that, I stand corrected.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  296. I regard the likes of conway and dr. evil and that undulating blob that is rick wilson, like yakushev of the Trust, the phony anti bolshevik opposition, there was cubela in cuba in the 60s, thats who the company trusted with their poison pen, there was durcansky in czechoslovakia, turkul in hungary, a remnant of that same trust of ex czarists,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  297. This. All of this:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1298240288293445632

    John Hayward
    @Doc_0
    This awful year has made it painfully clear that the Democrat agenda is completely and *comprehensively* incompatible with the American principle of inalienable rights. NOTHING they want to do is feasible unless “rights” become political constructs granted by our rulers.

    The first response of every left-winger to any question involving “rights” is to ask about the identity and politics of the people involved, so they can decide which party’s rights should trump the other’s. It’s always subjective with them, all the way down to speech rights.

    Try asking a Dem what the “rights” of every citizen should be. They’ll probably rattle off a list of coercive political programs – the “right” to health care, a few years ago they’d have put the “right” to free contraceptives first – and then insist non-citizens have them too.

    The rights envisioned the Constitution would confuse most Democrats, and they would strenuously disagree that any of them are inalienable, or that any of them flow from an authority higher than the State. They think all “rights” have asterisks and exceptions.

    Notice how, in the current street chaos, you can’t get any Democrat to agree that people have absolute rights to their own safety or property. It all depends on who you are, and whether the person trying to harm, rob, or vandalize you is a member of an approved grievance group.

    Do you have a right to defend your home against people who force their way in? Well, that depends. What color is your skin, and what color was theirs? How much money do you have in the bank? Have you ever taken unpopular political positions or said anything deemed controversial?

    To the Left, the really unacceptable thing about inalienable rights is that they imply duty and responsibility – from the State to its citizens, and from citizens to each other. This is anathema to elite social engineers who want to impose their vision of “justice” on us.

    Inalienable rights describe duties the State has to ALL citizens, no matter their racial background, voting habits, net worth, what they said on social media yesterday, or what their ancestors did 200 years ago. And we are all obliged to respect each other’s rights as well.

    This is completely incompatible with the notions of collective guilt that animate every single agenda item of the Left. They can’t take the first step toward anything they want to do if they accept the powerful American ideal of INDIVIDUAL rights and responsibilities.

    And we’re going to keep getting stuck with hideous leftist government – the kind that leaves Democrat cities in flames – unless all of us embrace that ideal of inalienable rights and profound personal responsibility. Let this terrible year be our childhood’s end. /end

    whembly (c30c83)

  298. I have undone the Colonel’s moderation.

    Patterico (115b1f) — 8/25/2020 @ 8:26 am

    Good call. It’s clear from his comments after 77 that he misheard the statement at the video and acknowledged the error.

    Time123 (7cca75)

  299. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-24/republican-convention-california-trump

    The left wants to turn America into California. I see we are all in agreement.

    What’s with the harping on Kamala Harris’s pronunciation of her name?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  300. thats genuinely amusing with all the trash that has been backed up here from woolf from avenatti, from ioffe second hand,

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/08/there-is-nowhere-else-to-go/

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  301. 320 – indeed

    mg (8cbc69)

  302. how much did trump pay those colored people to say those things last night?

    mg (8cbc69)

  303. Maximo Alvarez’s speech really is must watch. It also crystallizes the decision before us.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  304. how much did trump pay those colored people to say those things last night?

    mg (8cbc69) — 8/25/2020 @ 8:57 am

    Unless you’re really old this is an awkward turn of phrase.

    Time123 (7cca75)

  305. the way people hate trump id bet money people were thinking it

    mg (8cbc69)

  306. thats what mother jones, said with less tact, about herschel walker and tim scott,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  307. FDA chief apologizes for overstating plasma effect on virus

    Give him credit for admitting and correcting his mistake; his boss never does.

    Dave (1bb933)

  308. Sure, there’s the stated agenda that Dana outlined above, but here’s the real agenda that’s in effect.

    1) The most important mechanism of economic policy—not the only tool, but the most important—is adjusting the burden of taxation on society’s richest citizens. Lower this level, as Republicans did in 2017, and prosperity will follow. The economy has had a temporary setback, but thanks to the tax cut of 2017, recovery is ready to follow strongly. No further policy change is required, except possibly lower taxes still.
    2) The coronavirus is a much-overhyped problem. It’s not that dangerous and will soon burn itself out. States should reopen their economies as rapidly as possible, and accept the ensuing casualties as a cost worth paying—and certainly a better trade-off than saving every last life by shutting down state economies. Masking is useless and theatrical, if not outright counterproductive.
    3) Climate change is a much-overhyped problem. It’s probably not happening. If it is happening, it’s not worth worrying about. If it’s worth worrying about, it’s certainly not worth paying trillions of dollars to amend. To the extent it is real, it will be dealt with in the fullness of time by the technologies of tomorrow. Regulations to protect the environment unnecessarily impede economic growth.
    4) China has become an economic and geopolitical adversary of the United States. Military spending should be invested with an eye to defeating China on the seas, in space, and in the cyberrealm. U.S. economic policy should recognize that relations with China are zero-sum: When China wins, the U.S. loses, and vice versa.
    5) The trade and alliance structures built after World War II are outdated. America still needs partners, of course, especially Israel and maybe Russia. But the days of NATO and the World Trade Organization are over. The European Union should be treated as a rival, the United Kingdom and Japan should be treated as subordinates, and Canada, Australia, and Mexico should be treated as dependencies. If America acts decisively, allies will have to follow whether they like it or not—as they will have to follow U.S. policy on Iran.
    6) Health care is a purchase like any other. Individuals should make their own best deals in the insurance market with minimal government supervision. Those who pay more should get more. Those who cannot pay must rely on Medicaid, accept charity, or go without.
    7) Voting is a privilege. States should have wide latitude to regulate that privilege in such a way as to minimize voting fraud, which is rife among Black Americans and new immigrant communities. The federal role in voting oversight should be limited to preventing Democrats from abusing the U.S. Postal Service to enable fraud by their voters.
    8) Anti-Black racism has ceased to be an important problem in American life. At this point, the people most likely to be targets of adverse discrimination are whites, Christians, and Asian university applicants. Federal civil-rights-enforcement resources should concentrate on protecting them.
    9) The courts should move gradually and carefully toward eliminating the mistake made in 1965, when women’s sexual privacy was elevated into a constitutional right.
    10) The post-Watergate ethics reforms overreached. We should welcome the trend toward unrestricted and secret campaign donations. Overly strict conflict-of-interest rules will only bar wealthy and successful businesspeople from public service. Without endorsing every particular action by the president and his family, the Trump administration has met all reasonable ethical standards.
    11) Trump’s border wall is the right policy to slow illegal immigration; the task of enforcing immigration rules should not fall on business operators. Some deal on illegal immigration must be found. The most important Republican priority in any such deal is to delay as long as possible full citizenship, voting rights, and health-care benefits for people who entered the country illegally.
    12) The country is gripped by a surge of crime and lawlessness as a result of the Black Lives Matter movement and its criticism of police. Police misconduct, such as that in the George Floyd case, should be punished. But the priority now should be to stop crime by empowering police.
    13) Civility and respect are cherished ideals. But in the face of the overwhelming and unfair onslaught against President Donald Trump by the media and the “deep state,” his occasional excesses on Twitter and at his rallies should be understood as pardonable reactions to much more severe misconduct by others.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  309. My grandmother was a nice old lady whose views on race probably hadn’t changed much since grandpa got back from the Pacific. I don’t think she had animus towards black people and I’m not saying you do. But she’s the last person I remember using the phrase ‘colored people’. It just sounded out of date to me. Like if you said someone gave a gnarly and totally rad speech.

    Time123 (f5cf77)

  310. Terminating payroll tax could end Social Security benefits in 2023, chief actuary warns
    The federal government’s ability to pay Social Security benefits could stop by mid-2023 if President Donald Trump were to permanently terminate the payroll tax and not offer another revenue source, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration said Monday.
    ……
    If that were to happen in January of next year, the Social Security Administration estimates that the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund “asset reserves would become permanently depleted in about the middle of calendar year 2021, with no ability to pay DI benefits thereafter,” (Stephen) Goss said.

    For the main Social Security Old Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund for retired workers, Goss said that they predict reserves “would become permanently depleted by the middle of calendar year 2023, with no ability to pay OASI benefits thereafter.”
    …….
    ……Trump said he would permanently terminate the payroll tax cut if he’s re-elected in November.

    Earlier this month, he said at a press conference in Bedminster, N.J., “If I’m victorious on November 3rd, I plan to forgive these taxes and make permanent cuts to the payroll tax…I’m going to make them all permanent.”
    ……
    The president has said legislation to cut payroll taxes would specify that the money comes from the general fund…….
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  311. @329-
    I’ll give the FDA Commissioner credit if he resigned.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  312. I’ll give the FDA Commissioner credit if he resigned.

    So Trump can appoint the demon sperm lady to replace him?

    In this administration, things only more in one direction: bad to worse.

    Dave (1bb933)

  313. Quotes, italics or dialogue indicators, mg. That came off more DC than the morning rooster mg I know.

    urbanleftbehind (78d312)

  314. 294. Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/24/2020 @ 9:38 pm

    This bug will go away stop treating it like the athenian plague where pericles perished,

    You don;t want 1% if the population dying either and maybe another 1% debilitated.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  315. @332 Mexico will pay for your Social Security benefits!

    Dave (1bb933)

  316. 338, someone using a seguro falso already did, personal “lockbox” my heinie!

    urbanleftbehind (78d312)

  317. how much did trump pay those colored people to say those things last night?

    mg (8cbc69) — 8/25/2020 @ 8:57 am

    To suggest that an African-American can’t think for himself and support our President is truly despicable and obviously racist seeing as you used derogatory and outdated verbiage. What a leftist thing to say.

    Marci (405d43)

  318. it was a ridiculous statement, but it was what mother jones tim cragg and cnn actually said, satire is most assuredly dead, and likely zombie,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  319. Seeing as I do not read Mother Jones, have not listened or read CNN for several days or read his names comments, combined with a lack of reference being cited I was unaware of either the source or satire. Still it is a despicable statement, racist and a leftists statement no matter who said it.

    Marci (405d43)

  320. That’s what I keep wondering: If Trump’s arguments are so great, why do so many resort to lying?

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  321. Uh-oh.

    Somebody’s not gonna be happy…

    Night 1 prime-time tee-vee audience of RNC: 17 million
    Night 1 prime-time tee-vee audience of DNC: 19.7 million

    It would appear that Americans don’t want to be lied to; they want to be entertained.

    Dave (1bb933)

  322. @344. Gee whiz, Davey– guess my hours weren’t counted; you don’t know ’bout all us folks who watch and consume news on the non-Nielsen tallied, non-commercial outlets like C-SPAN and them there interweb gadgets. But then, we marketers in the adbiz love to see you consumers sit through commercials. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  323. Gee whiz, Davey– guess my hours weren’t counted; you don’t know ’bout all us folks who watch and consume news on the non-Nielsen tallied, non-commercial outlets like C-SPAN and them there interweb gadgets.

    Then they weren’t counted for the RNC or the DNC.

    Try again, I know you can do better!

    Dave (1bb933)

  324. @346. You’re catching on, Davey. Watch it on C-SPAN.

    No static or spin.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  325. Wow. New Mexico is pretty.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  326. Between Trump’s Silent Majority and potential Democrat voters, which are the more tech savvy and which are the more likely to watch on their 1978 walnut console Zeniths? If there was under-counting, it was heavier for the DNC.

    nk (1d9030)

  327. Hopefully nobody was looking forward to “Angel Mom” Mary Mendoza’s speech, as she Milkshake Ducked her way out of the convention.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/rnc-speaker-boosts-qanon-conspiracy-theory-about-jewish-plot-to-enslave-the-world-1

    Davethulhu (0bbb0a)

  328. If you’re on an advisory board of a scam charity: It’s okay, still you’re speaking tonite.
    If your tweet links to a QAnon-friendly conspiracy theorist who spouts anti-Semitic nonsense: Well, that’s just too much. Canceled!

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  329. Yeah, Stephen Miller and Mickey Kaus have their limits apparently. The latter will probably insist it’s a coded message that an amnesty sellout is a term 2 priority.

    urbanleftbehind (19e3af)

  330. @349. LOL Stereotyping. Yes, Hillary was winning– right up to the hour she lost.

    _______

    Rand Paul? A talking ad for Brillo pads.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  331. RNC night 2

    Myron Lizer- Navajo nation- Thanks for the CARES act funding

    Trump- John Ponder tells his eartwarming story about a criminal who got saved and rehabilitated. Who picked the music for the RNC. They’ve done a crap job. It’s all ominous. Trump has no inflection in his voice. He is a first grader reciting the narration at the school Christmas pageant. Back to Ponder has good things to say about FBI and LEO, wants to bring people together. Richard Beasley- FBI guy- has good things to say about Ponder, LEO, Trump. Trump- Publicity stunt in the middle of the convention, though I’m sure that Ponder is extremely happy for the pardon.

    Rand Paul- (this feels like hypocrisy. Is it hypocrisy?)- Appreciates Trump’s support for 3rd world cataract surgery. “Donald Trump gets things done?” ROFL. Trump is committed to end the war in Afghanistan. Which is why he hasn’t done it yet. Rand hates war not because it kills US soldiers, but because we are giving infrastructure money to afghanistan. Priorities, Rand, Priorities.

    Nic (896fdf)

  332. Always amused when the GOP claims the righteous virtue of the Project Apollo and uses video of planting the U.S. flag on the moon– when the Republican Party opposed it and a Republican president literally killed the Kennedy/LBJ program.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  333. Fox news not covering the 1st half hour.

    WHO CHOSE THE MUSIC? BAD BAD THEM.

    Jason Joyce: Lobstah, Maine- (Johnson voter?)- Mad that Obama said they couldn’t fish lobstah in a place where they already didn’t fish lobstah. He did OK.

    Kris Peterson- Dairy Farmer, Wisconsin- Has very very very specific personal economic concerns. Trump apparently was president while she rebuilt her barn. Good speaker, very little relevance to policy.

    RNC commercial- Ominous music again. This commercial is very stream of consciousness. A little over the top on the fear mongering. “He’s improved health.” ROFL. Tax cut still sucked, people.

    Nic (896fdf)

  334. Wow! A cocaine addict who worked for Reagan!! How Kudlow can you go, Snowman?!!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  335. @356. Watch it on CSPAN-1. No spin or static at all.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  336. John Peterson- always solids- never wear a patterned sport jacket on the TeeVee.

    Causes moiré pattern interference.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  337. Have to admit, Abby Johnson’s anti-abortion presentation was powerful.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  338. Larry Kudlow: Taking credit for Obama economy. Re. Covid. “Presidential leadership came swiftly and effectly.” I cannot even. More tax cuts, payroll tax cuts, other random tax cuts, all the tax cuts. HOW WILL YOU PEOPLE PAY FOR ANY OF THIS?

    John Peterson- Metal fabricator, Wisconsin- 6 year ago is NOT when the recession appeared. Sigh. And it didn’t begin under the Obama administration. US Mex Can trade agreement is basically NAFTA. TAXES TAXES TAXES! This man is not a good speaker. AND he just sounds whiny and annoying. It might be the accent, but I didn’t have this trouble with any of the other upper midwest speakers.

    Cissie Graham Lynch (Billie Grahams grand-daughter)- Talking about faith- Er, no, that isn’t quite what 1st amendment says. Does not like birthcontrol, gays, trans people. Wants the right to get Covid at church. IIRC Jesus said to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.

    Robert Vlaisavljevich- Iron industry, Minnesota- Does not like environmental regulation, thinks Trump has saved the steel industry. How many steel jobs recovered from China? Bunch of talking point cliches. Should’ve stayed with the Iron industry stuff.

    Abby Johnson- Crazy lady. Anti abortion activist- Tells the same story she’s told 150,000 times. Any voter on earth not aware that the R’s are anti-abortion? Who is the audience for her? She’s not a bad speaker, but I’ve heard her before and she isn’t saying anything new, so I don’t find her interesting.

    RNC commercial- March for life Racism, Sandman. OMINOUS MUSIC.

    Nic (896fdf)

  339. Bondi. Not bad.

    But bring on Tiffany.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  340. Nicholas Sandman- March for life kid- Not a good speaker. Very flat. Bad media experience. Does not like cancel culture. I feel bad the kid, he does not look very comfortable. I don’t know if it’s nerves or emotion, but he looks in distress. He finished strong though.

    Pam Bondi- Florida, lawyer, former attn, General- Attack dog. That is NOT a good color on her, it makes her look v. sunburnt. Oddly attacking Hunter. Replay of Ukraine lies. CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY! HUNTER BIDEN CAUSED COVID! Er, I don’t know that the Rs. should talk about family members who do business with foreign countries *cough*Trumpfamily*cough* Apparently, though, Bondi isn’t aware that the Trump family does business overseas because he’s “different”. She’s a good speaker, but I’m pretty sure most of what she said was lies.

    @358 I am. I just thought it was interesting that FOX wasn’t covering it.

    Nic (896fdf)

  341. First time in a long time the democrats didn’t have a planned parenthood killer speak at the convention.

    mg (8cbc69)

  342. @363.Yeah- It’s easier to watch it on CSPAN- the flow doesn’t get interrupted.

    Good news for Biden fans- he awoke and rode a bike today — and wore a helmet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  343. Tiffany!!! God’s gift to HDTV. But be sure you’ve had your shots before you touch her.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  344. RNC commercial- Kelley Conway praise. Thank goodness they finally chose uplifting music. Guilfoyle, you were hired by fox news to be a fox news chick because you were a girl. “family first core value” ROFL. All about how he is good for women, respects women. I am reasonably certain that if you are going to tell a lie, it should be one someone might believe.

    Tiffany Trump- daughter, just graduated law school- Valedictorian speech. Good color on her, but I don’t know that the pants suit is doing her justice. The Trump genes are strong. Her speech is all over the place. Ack. she didn’t stop at the end of her speech either. AND she missed the 2nd end point. She is not voting for daddy.

    Kim Reynolds- Gov Iowa, R.- Really loves Iowa. Had a bad storm. Well I’m glad that the pres is giving disaster relief to someone. Nice how Trump is the president of them. I’m glad Iowans can rely on him. No, I’m not bitter at all.

    RNC commercial. Yay! Uplifting music again! Pence- Really likes Lincoln. Mike, we know who Lincoln was. He was a good guy. Cliche re Trump. uplifting story about tiny child. Autistic? Pence praises himself. Right to try praise again. interesting from wikipedia: “A federal right to try law was passed in May 2018, but as of June 2019 only two patients had been accepted for experimental therapies.” I hope that it’s been more by now or that this quote is wrong. Cut off the black lady? Lord’s town motors appears to be an electric vehicle manufacturer. Tulsa Charity guy talks. Lydia from honduras PPP user.

    Nic (896fdf)

  345. Always a special moment witnessing new citizens sworn in.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  346. Ryan Holets- Police officer, NM- Story about drug user who got clean and whose baby he adopted. He is interested in solving the opioid crisis. Did a good job, succinct, focused, stuck to his topic.

    Jeanette Nunez- Lt. Gov R Florida- Another Cuban immigrant family- Talking about faith. She’s kind of scary. Is making a list of Trump’s accomplishments. Just, like, a list. Now a list of what we should support. Lots of lists here. Final list … faith, family, and freedom.

    Trump again. Sigh. Publicity stunt 2. SECOND IN ONE NIGHT! you’d think he’s space these things out. Tiny naturalization service. No masks. Very careful “diverse group” selection. “Hi, central casting? Yes, could you send us a diverse group for a publicity stunt. Yes, an even spread of 5 diverse people. No, no white ones, just diverse people. Thank you.” Trump tells a decent joke. That’s nice. “apples of you eye” “apples of your eye” NOT APPLES OF YOUR LIFE OMG.

    Nic (896fdf)

  347. Yep.

    How do you defend a president who has mismanaged a pandemic that has killed more than 170,000 Americans? On Monday, the Republican Party gave its answer: You lie. At its convention, the GOP presented an almost entirely fake history of President Donald Trump’s response to the novel coronavirus. Like authoritarian parties in other countries, the Republicans substituted propaganda for reality.

    Woo hoo, my party. The death toll today was 1,291.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  348. How do you defend a president who has mismanaged a pandemic that has killed more than 170,000 Americans?

    Reaganoptics. That’s how.

    It works.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  349. Eric Trump. He’s very nasally. Attack dog, but not good at it. Takes a bash at the R. party. Interesting. Eric, the tax cut sucked. Sigh. American is not currently the envy of the world. I wish we were, but I’ve traveled a lot and we just aren’t. Eric, you are listing stuff your father has mostly failed at. Eric, your dad is not good at business. He keeps going bankrupt. Also, he’s now just lying. Like objectively. Eric is wandering all over the place. He is not cohesive. NO! YOU HAVE TO STOP AT THE END POINT! The last “my father will fight for you” was the END of the speech. Why did you keep going?!

    RNC commercial- Uplifting music, good job. The level of honesty is a little spotty, though.

    Nic (896fdf)

  350. Nic, I appreciate your commentary.

    Davethulhu (0bbb0a)

  351. Ahhhhhhh. Coming or going – Melania.

    Looking stellar; strutting her stuff.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  352. Compared to Donnie, Eric was actually good.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  353. Have to admit, Abby Johnson’s anti-abortion presentation was powerful.

    Yes, but too bad her views on voting are so 19th century.

    Anti-abortion activist Abby Johnson, who will speak on Tuesday during the second night of the Republican National Convention, has advocated in recent months for a head-of-household voting system that has historically barred women and people of color from casting ballots.
    […]
    Head-of-household voting would permit only the head of a household — and not all household members who are citizens over 18 years of age — to cast a ballot. Johnson believes the male member of the household would be the de facto decision maker.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  354. Daniel Cameron- Attn. General of KY, R- Likes Lincoln. Talks about how Republicans are nice people. Fair enough. Does not think Biden is nice people. He seems like a nice young man and he really believes in the positive aspects of the Republican party, but I’m not really convinced he’s going to vote the top of the ticket at all, though he says he is. He’s a good speaker, I bet we see him again in the future

    Mike Pompeo- He is not a good speaker. Er. Kim did not commit to no tests. Though if he really is in a coma, he won’t be testing anything anytime soon.

    Lets watch Pence walk. And he’s walking. And he’s walking. Still walking. Nothing is happening. Now Trump is walking. And walking. Just people clapping for awhile now. Ah, Melania’s speech. Now Melania is walking. This was perhaps not the best fashion choice. Along with her walk, it makes her look like an especially fashionable E. European military officer.

    Melania- She is not an easy speaker, lots of deer in headlights going on. She’s been in the US for half her life and lived pretty much entirely in English speaking communities since she came, I’m not sure why she still struggles so hard with her English. She also sounds like an especially fashionable E. European military officer. I can totally hear her saying, “If he cooperates he will go to gulag. If he will not cooperate, he will die.” She had a very nice smile talking about becoming a citizen. This speech is also not very cohesive and is all over the place. Maybe the transitions are just bad? She is clearly doing her best, though. This is very long and the content is making very little impression on me I’m afraid. So. Very . Long. Oh, God, still going. Why do none of these people know that they should stop at the end of their speech. No, they have to start a whole new speech. NO! NOT ANOTHER ONE! YES, THE MOTHERS DESERVE RECOGNITION, BUT THIS IS AT LEAST YOUR THIRD SPEECH! Look, the audience thinks it’s time to stop and clap too. But it isn’t. She isn’t done yet. …4 more years. Now? Are we done now? No. No we are not. FINALLY DONE! YES! She is good party wife, yes?

    Nic (896fdf)

  355. Why are we showing people just milling about?

    Production in general: Not as good as last night. There were some glitches and some long unnecessary pauses.

    The RNC commercials: Better than last night, in feel at least. Some of them still stayed ominous, but in the later ones at least they got the music right.

    Speakers in general: There were fewer really effective speakers tonight and a number of speakers didn’t know when to stop.

    Best speaker of the night: Ryan Holets, the police officer who adopted the baby.

    General overall judgement: The tonality was all over the place. I didn’t feel like it had an cohesion to it. There’s supposed to be a narrative to these things and there wasn’t for this one. If I wasn’t doing this I would’ve changed the channel. I really didn’t like the publicity stunts. They were really obvious and artificial.

    Nic (896fdf)

  356. @373 Thank you!

    @375 IDK, I think they were equally terrible in their own ways.

    Nic (896fdf)

  357. 1st night, lots of big lies about 170,000 dead Americans from Covid, little lies about other things to distract from 170,000 dead Americans of Covid.

    2nd night, forget about 171,000 dead Americans from Covid, let’s talk about culture wars of the 80’s, and lie about how Trump made the economy great in 2014, sure, and throw in so decent showmanship with some brown folks becoming citizens, you know, with Trump, who’s been doing everything in his power for 3 and a half years to make that impossible. I’m sure no one remembers those details. Nah.

    Oh, and 171,000 dead Americans from Covid, but we’re going to have a treatment and vaccine “any” day now, whether they work, who cares, but let’s plan on a miracle, because maximum effort is hard, miracles all around.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  358. Look into the CNN/MSNBC panelists faces– their eyes betray the worry.

    Well done, Melania. Great production again tonight.

    Good news, Biden fans: warm milk consumed; he’s asleep now.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  359. She’ll never agree to live in San Diego, DCSCA.

    nk (1d9030)

  360. @382. Who cares–just slo-mo her walking, coming and going, in good ‘ol HDTV. The ghost of Jackie Kennedy is smiling…

    We’ve come a long way from Mamie Eisenhower.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  361. Donnie Jr is the runt, he has to be tenacious to make up for the lack of height and blond hair.

    urbanleftbehind (19e3af)

  362. French on the jettisoning of the GOP platform…

    Over the weekend, the Republican Party and Trump campaign did two things that should be rather shocking. Indeed, in ordinary times they would be. But these are not ordinary times.
    First, the party decided that it would not create a party platform for 2020. Instead, the party adopted a resolution that it would “enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda” rather than issue the normal, detailed statement of Republican principles and policies. The party was now plainly organized around a person.
    Second, later that same evening, President Trump issued his second-term agenda, a series of bullet points titled “Fighting for You!” This was not a statement of ideology or philosophy. Instead, as my former colleagues at National Review noted in an excellent editorial, the document “is better understood as a series of aspirations, with little sense of how the powers of government might plausibly be used to achieve any of these goals”:
    Thus, we are told, a reelected Trump would “Create 10 Million New Jobs in 10 Months,” “Return to Normal in 2021,” “Cut Prescription Drug Prices,” “Protect Social Security and Medicare,” “Wipe Out Global Terrorists Who Threaten to Harm Americans,” and “Partner with Other Nations to Clean Up our Planet’s Oceans.” How are voters supposed to evaluate a fuzzy and stilted pledge such as “Drain the Globalist Swamp by Taking on International Organizations That Hurt American Citizens”?

    Moreover, the document is just as notable for what it omits as for what it includes. There is no mention of abortion or religious liberty. There is no mention of the Constitution at all. In past campaigns, these omissions would have led to thunderous denunciations from conservatives.
    But that was then. This is now. And exactly nothing I outlined above will matter at all to the president’s base. Why not? There’s a key line in the RNC’s platform resolution that tells you all you need to know: “The RNC enthusiastically supports President Trump and continues to reject the policy positions of the Obama-Biden Administration, as well as those espoused by the Democratic National Committee today.”
    Or, to put it more simply, the RNC could have simply said, “President Trump’s second-term promise is that he’ll oppose the Democrats.”
    This is negative partisanship in its near-pure form, and it’s the best way to explain Trump’s current appeal to the Republican party. No, it’s not his populism. It’s not his “America-first” foreign policy. His ideology is almost entirely beside the point (I still think that if he abandoned his pro-life stance that he’d lose significant GOP support, but not as much as you might think). His identity matters more, and his identity is clear—the Republican champion against the hated Democratic foe.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  363. But did she lose her virginity at age 16 “to somebody” in an elevator in Paris?

    “Jackie, when she was a teenager, lost her virginity to somebody in Paris in an elevator,” he tells PEOPLE Now in an interview that aired Tuesday. “It wasn’t the most romantic experience but it was a good one for her and she was really happy that she had it.”

    Call me a prude, but to me that seems wrong … wait for it … on so many levels.

    nk (1d9030)

  364. @386 Ahaha! You are pushing my buttons, nk.

    norcal (a5428a)

  365. If you don’t mind answering a one-question audience survey, norcal:
    If I had left out … wait for it …, would the joke have worked
    1. Not as well?
    2. The same?
    3. Better?

    nk (1d9030)

  366. 1

    norcal (a5428a)

  367. I’m not sure I would have gotten the joke had you not constructed it so, nk.

    norcal (a5428a)

  368. But, if I had gotten it, it would have been better. Sometimes I’m a good audience, sometimes not.

    norcal (a5428a)

  369. OT–Victor Davis Hanson with a blistering indictment of California:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/california-apocalypto/#slide-1

    You know what cracks me up? Ford still offers a “California Special” edition of the Mustang. Guess what, Ford? California stopped being special a long time ago. The allure is gone. If anything, you’re putting a stigma on the car.

    norcal (a5428a)

  370. @386 I suspect the story isn’t quite as reported. I can’t imagine that she was in Paris in 1945. The city was a wreck. Apparently she was at the Sorbonne when she was in her early 20s. So maybe then? (though she was apparently a good Catholic girl, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she waited for her wedding.)

    Nic (896fdf)

  371. the hall monitor is back

    mg (8cbc69)

  372. Thank you, norcal, 389-391, that was my thinking, too. One big advantage professional comics have is that the audience is in the mood for a joke, is expecting a joke, and will look for the joke.

    nk (1d9030)

  373. Violate the law for me, Trump told senior officials, and if you are held accountable I will pardon you.

    In any other administration, grounds for impeachment. In this administration, Wednesday.

    Orin Kerr

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  374. Melania- She is not an easy speaker, lots of deer in headlights going on. She’s been in the US for half her life and lived pretty much entirely in English speaking communities since she came, I’m not sure why she still struggles so hard with her English.

    I expect that learning does not come easy to her. Even in her native country, she did not qualify for university, only for technical school which she flunked/dropped out of. What does the education system call that? She is the least educated First Lady since Bess Truman, who went to Finishing School instead of college in 1900.

    nk (1d9030)

  375. Ahhh, Bess Truman. Now there was a good old fashioned Jew hater, the likes of which we wouldn’t see again until Dick Nixon, since whom we didn’t see it again until the very fine people Trump panders to.

    Speaking of which….

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  376. followup on 337.

    By Alex Berenson, author of “Unreported Truths About COVID-19 and Lockdowns: Parts 1 and 2,” both available on Amazon says the New York Post.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/25/we-could-beat-covid-19-before-a-vaccine-is-ready

    …Since the spring, scientists have known the virus’s infection fatality rate — how many people it kills compared to the number it infects — is under 1 percent, perhaps as low as 0.2 percent. That lower figure translates into one death for every 500 people infected….But the fatality rate is only half the puzzle when scientists try to figure out what the final death toll from the coronavirus might be. And even with a small rate, the numbers are staggering. If the entire nation was infected, it would mean potentially 500,000 or more Americans dead.

    But if the virus runs out of steam more quickly and the epidemic fades before everyone is infected, the number of deaths will be lower.

    Epidemiologists call the level where the epidemic ends the “herd immunity” threshold. Herd immunity does not mean that the virus has completely disappeared, only that it can no longer infect a critical mass of people and become an epidemic again. [That is, all or most of the paths for spreading widely are blocked up]

    Figuring out when a virus has reached herd immunity is very tricky, even trickier than estimating the death rate. It depends heavily on the virus’s reproduction number, or R — how many people one infected person infects in turn.

    The higher the R, the more quickly a virus will spread, and the more people must be infected before the epidemic breaks. Coronavirus seemed at first to be highly contagious, and most scientists initially believed that 60 percent to 80 percent of people might need to be infected before herd immunity was reached.

    But the R for the coronavirus seems to vary wildly at different times and places. Also, some people may have some pre-existing immunity because of their exposure to other coronaviruses. [not just some. Somewhere around half]

    A growing number of scientists believe the threshold for herd immunity may be much lower. Some predict it might be 40 percent. Others say it could be as low as 20 percent — meaning that the epidemic will burn out after only 1 in 5 people is infected with and recovers from the virus.

    And real-world evidence — from Sweden, from Sunbelt states like Arizona, and now from the Brazilian city of Manaus — provides very encouraging evidence that the immunity threshold may be well below 50 percent. Sweden, Arizona and Manaus don’t have much in common, but in all of them, the epidemic burned out relatively quickly, without hard lockdowns, and after a relatively low number of people were infected based on antibody tests.

    f we can actually reach herd immunity after 40 percent or less of the population is infected, far fewer people will die than the early forecasts, even without lockdowns. And if the best-case estimates of 20 percent or less are correct, we may be closer to the end than the beginning of the coronavirus epidemic. It’s still too early to be certain — but maybe for the first time since March, we have real reason to hope. [But the beginning of November, and even mid to late October might not be too early -SF]

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  377. omg, taborelli he’s the dysentery of biographers, right up there with michael woolf, or gabe sherman,

    the people who accepted steeles bar talk to secure a fraudulent fisa warrant, should be prosecuted, but they just get book contracts,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  378. 397. Learning a language is alittle bit different than other kinds of learning. It comes from repetition, like learning the words of songs. She probably never had to learn English too well, r never had to get it rightr, anyway. She spoke a Slavic language first.

    It;s interesting – someone says that Slovenian is considered to be one of the most archaic languages in Europe and has almost fifty dialects. Is it really one language then? Archaic might refer to its grammar.

    https://theculturetrip.com/europe/slovenia/articles/9-fascinating-facts-about-the-slovenian-language

    What is dual? Sounds like it means that there is a conjugation for one for two and then three or more

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_number#Dual

    The distinction between a “singular” number (one) and a “plural” number (more than one) found in English is not the only possible classification. Another one is “singular” (one), “dual” (two) and “plural” (more than two). Dual number existed in Proto-Indo-European, persisted in many ancient Indo-European languages that descended from it—Sanskrit, Ancient Greek, Gothic, Old Norse, and Old English for example—and can still be found in a few modern Indo-European languages such as Slovene.[13] Many more modern Indo-European languages show residual traces of the dual, as in the English distinctions both vs. all, either vs. any, neither vs. none, and so on.

    Former dual forms may broaden their meanings: Norwegian både, for example, though cognate with English both, can be used with more than two things, as in X sparer både tid, penger, og arbeid, literally “X saves both time, money, and labour

    But in English, “all” ca mean just two.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  379. 398. lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/26/2020 @ 4:46 am

    Ahhh, Bess Truman. Now there was a good old fashioned Jew hater,

    It;s true. Harry S. Truman told a certain Jew that he couldn’t go into his house because she wouldn’t let a Jew into the house.

    Of curse stress should be put on “old fashioned” It stemmed from religion.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  380. 385. Paul Montagu (a2078e) — 8/25/2020 @ 10:36 pm

    There is no mention of abortion or religious liberty.

    Although somebody deliverd an anti-abortion speech yesterday in the 9 p.m. hour. She sad she had worked for Planned Parenthood and mentioned three tings that turned her off. One thing was that they didn’t want abortion to be rare but wanted more of it since that is the way they made their money and finally she witnessed or participated in an abortion with ultrasound d saw the foetus struggling to stay alive by trying to avoid th e suction and couldn’t stand it. Of course we also notice this with cockroaches so that can’t be the determining thing.

    She saw the spine broken up.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  381. Someone told me last night that he is keeping a diary with notes o coronovirs. He showed it to me but I didn’t take the time to look in. It would have been interesting to take a look. It is a 1998 diary book which is exactly the same according to the day of the week since March 1.

    2009 is also the same as thia year, and the Jewish dates are also the same (with Passover Rosh Hashonah and Yom Kippur) from Sunday March 1/5th of Adar 5780 through the 29th day of Cheshvan 5781. (Sunday November 16)

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  382. 403. The government of China didn’t want any cases to escape China. That’s all they cared about anyway. Xi and company didn’t want it because then the world might close off travel from China.

    But it was too late anyway and COVID-19 was harder to contain than SARS or MERS, even though (or maybe because) it was less deadly.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  383. 376.

    “But what happens when the husband is a Republican and the wife is a Democrat or vice versa?” a Twitter user asked Johnson.

    “Then they would have to decide on one vote

    But if they got divorced, they would both get a vote. I think this would be of net benefit to the Democratic Party. Poverty is always higher when measured by households.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  384. 351. Paul Montagu (a2078e) — 8/25/2020 @ 5:46 pm

    a QAnon-friendly conspiracy theorist who spouts anti-Semitic nonsense: Well, that’s just too much. Canceled!

    But what shew was going to speak about was just a different form of the same thing.

    She was going to speak against illegal alien drunk drivers.

    Some people have difficulty understanding that Trump endorses only a very specific form of uncaring anti-human discrimination.

    Geographicalism, not racism or anti-semitism. Some people, even those who think they are on his side, get these things confused.

    And once somebody is naturalized, they are no longer the “other” Trump showed last night how he was willing to naturalize some people.

    Foreign citizenship, not race, color, creed or even national origin per se.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  385. Although somebody deliverd an anti-abortion speech yesterday in the 9 p.m. hour.

    Yes, Sammy, I saw part of the speech, and it doesn’t change what’s not in Trump’s stated 2nd term agenda. She was also the wrong person to be delivering that message after we learned about her 19th century views on head-of-household voting.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  386. The last administration crushed religious liberties, this one goes out of its way to uphold,

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  387. But it was too late anyway and COVID-19 was harder to contain than SARS or MERS, even though (or maybe because) it was less deadly.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0) — 8/26/2020 @ 7:19 am

    In a way it’s less deadly. If you only compare the people known to be infected. But because everyone gets COVID, COVID has already killed hundreds of times as many people as SARS did in its outbreak.

    China was either incompetent or malicious. They had to have known very early on how quickly this would spread. The only choice they had was to disclose the problem and give as much information as they had. Instead, in the beginning months, it was a fight to get them to cooperate, and they often were very misleading. Everything that slowed down how seriously we took this in the first three months made everything, including the economic damage, worse.

    Dustin (5418f4)

  388. Now whos being naive, they killed 10s of million, i say 60 you say 40, that three gorges dam may kill nearly as many through nrgligence. We delivered the bulk of our manufacturing into their hands, something we never did we pre war japan

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  389. Geographicalism, not racism or anti-semitism.

    Nah, it’s racism, too, Sammy, which is well documented. And the longer he doesn’t visavow QAnon, which is laced with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, the longer he keeps the door open to charges of anti-Semitism.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  390. for as long as i’ve been alive, the new york times has been the bane of all decent people in this world, even before then, when they were press agent for stalin’s holomodor, and gave fidel his job interview, smoothed the way for the khmer rouge, and the ayatollah’s kangaroo courts,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  391. It’s morning in America.

    Biden is awoke. A blessing to some- but no miracle is coming.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  392. ^ awake, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  393. 417. DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/26/2020 @ 9:29 am

    Biden is awoke. A blessing to some- but no miracle is coming.

    Mike Pence criticized Biden last night for saying “no miracle is ccming” but in a way that said that ending the disease would not be a miracle. American ingenuity would end it. Biden doesn’t say it will never end, of course, just words that meant that it won’t …fade away. Which it might, actually.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  394. SF: Geographicalism, not racism or anti-semitism.

    415: Paul Montagu (a2078e) — 8/26/2020 @ 8:47 am

    Nah, it’s racism, too, Sammy, which is well documented.

    THe New York Times collects things from here and there, and has not a word to say about he much more obvious geographicalism. Birtherism is geographicalism, not racism.

    So what do they have?

    1. Housing discrimination. Initiated by his father. He may have played a small role in the early 1970s and said they were keeping out welfare families, which they were maybe, along wth some other tings bt using a crude heuristic. They pretended not to know about the law and agreed to training

    One consequence of that lawsuit is that Donald Trump decided never to get involved in middle class housing.

    2. An anecdote. He didn’t like a black accountant. Thought he was lazy. Then said it wasn’t his fault because that was something that was true because that’s the way many blacks were. He meant to mitigate his criticism.

    3. Believing the Central Park Five participated in a rape is somehow racist. Or asking for the death penalty is (remmeber the woman was expected to die)

    Not backtracking in 203 is Trump not wanting to say the facts were apparently wrong, not racial animosity toward blacks. (this is an excellent illustration of the Prisoner’s Dilemma conundrum, by the way)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner%27s_dilemma

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/prisoners-dilemma.asp

    What the Central Park Jogger case shows you is that it is not necessary for either of the prisoners to be guilty for that to work!

    4. Trump thinks well educated blacks have a advantage over equally well educated whites when it comes to career advancement.

    5. Most of the rest is geographicalism. Geographicalism, as well as some political criticism is said to e racism.

    Demonizing immigrants from some particular origins is said to be racism, and saying certain countries re bad and other named countries are better places is said to be racism.

    6. Claims that Middle Easterners (who are white) might be bad or that Muslims (a religion not a race with many of them apparently white) is said to be racism. (The Census Bureau considers Middle Easterners to be white; even some “Asian Indians” really belong in this category.)

    7. Saying a judge might be biased against him is said to be racism.

    8. Some of his criticisms of Obama are said to be racism.

    9. Saying inner cities are dangerous places is said to be racism. That was maybe somewhat out of date, but it’s coming back now maybe.

    10. He gives false crime statistics (but he gives false statistics about everything, even when he could give good, but not so strong, statistics that supported his point, and he was blaming it on radical Islam in the example cited, which was from Europe.)

    11. He has criticized a few African-Americans as unintelligent when that’s not what’s wrong with them, (and it’s not something he common;y accuses other people of.)

    12. He’s on good terms or tolerant of what some racists say that’s not outright racism. And he was associated with Steve Bannon, who had a section on Breitbart labeled “black crime.”

    13. Joe Arpaio in Arizona is said to be racist, not geographicalist.

    14.Saying some people are faking their ancestry to get casinos is said to be racism. As is, saying in an ad that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” Also saying he might have more Indian blood than some Indians he called fake.

    15. Calling Senator Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas is racism.

    16. Minimizing the “Trail of Tears is racism.

    17. He wondered why a Korean-American intelligence analyst was briefing him on Pakistan, instead of North Korea.

    18 He believed some claims that were circulating on the web about white farmers being killed in South Africa

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  395. 415. Paul Montagu (a2078e) — 8/26/2020 @ 8:47 am

    And the longer he doesn’t visavow QAnon, which is laced with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, the longer he keeps the door open to charges of anti-Semitism.

    Anti-Semitism is not a big theme with QAnon. Who mentions that George Soros in Jewish? Now maybe that’s there to attract another crowd.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)


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