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8/22/2020

Weekend Open Thread

Filed under: General — Dana @ 10:06 am



[guest post by Dana]

Here are a few news items to talk about. Feel free to share anything that you think might interest readers. Please remember to include links.

First news item

Gearing up:

Operation Warp Speed – the White House-led partnership for COVID-19 answers – is pushing its partners to be ready to begin distributing a coronavirus vaccine by Nov. 1.

The date is the first concrete goal set for companies working with Operation Warp Speed be prepared to deliver vaccines to doctors and hospitals, said Wes Wheeler of the delivery giant United Parcel Service.

Wheeler said UPS and other partners will be conducting test delivery runs in September. “We’ll be ready. We have to be ready,” he said. “The world is watching. We can’t fail.”

Operation Warp Speed is comprised of federal agencies such as the CDC, the FDA and the Department of Agriculture. The initiative aims to expedite the rapid production of COVID-19 tests, treatments and vaccines. Its goal is to produce and deliver 300 million doses of vaccine by January.

Related, sadly:

Second news item

No one could have possibly seen this coming, right???

Fifteen Minnesotans who attended the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally this month have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, including one state resident hospitalized with COVID-19, state health officials say.

…Minnesotans who tested positive visited multiple campgrounds and bars at the South Dakota event, Ehresmann said, so cases apparently can’t be connected to any one location.

Seven residents of North Dakota also have cases connected to the Sturgis event, a government spokesman told the Star Tribune.

“Thousands of people attended that event, and so it’s very likely that we will see more transmission,” Ehresmann said.

At least seven Covid-19 cases in Nebraska’s Panhandle region have been tied to the rally, Kim Engel, director of the Panhandle Public Health District, confirmed in an email to CNN.

South Dakota reported 193 new cases on Friday. It’s one of several states that have seen an increase in new cases this past week compared to the week prior, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Third news item

Seattle’s Mayor Durkan says NO:

Mayor Jenny Durkan announced Friday that she will veto a rebalanced budget approved recently by the Seattle City Council that included a controversial plan to slash funding to the police department, which would sharply reduce pay for some of the agency’s top brass and eliminate an outreach team for the homeless.

But the budget plan was approved by a super majority of council members, which if it stays intact, will have enough votes to override the mayoral veto.

“There’s no plans, for example, on how the city will address encampments and RVs that pose public health and safety risk without the Human Services staff who coordinate and lead these outreach efforts that were cut by this budget,” Durkan said.

She also objected to the council’s 40 percent salary reduction of SPD command staff and the lack of plan to remove the 100 officers, which the council budget suggested.

Fourth news item

Biden talks Covid-19:

Former Vice President Joe Biden said…on Friday that as president, he would shut the country down to stop the spread of COVID-19 if the move was recommended to him by scientists.

“I would shut it down; I would listen to the scientists,” Biden told Muir Friday.

“I will be prepared to do whatever it takes to save lives because we cannot get the country moving, until we control the virus,” Biden said. “That is the fundamental flaw of this administration’s thinking to begin with. In order to keep the country running and moving and the economy growing, and people employed, you have to fix the virus, you have to deal with the virus.”

Fourth news item

No, he doesn’t want to defund the police:

“President Trump says that you want to defund the police. Do you?” asked “Good Morning America” co-anchor Robin Roberts in an interview conducted Friday in Wilmington, Delaware.

“No I don’t,” Biden said, laughing.

Biden said that while he doesn’t want to “defund the police,” he does want to eliminate misconduct and discriminatory practices.

“I don’t want to defund police departments. I think they need more help, they need more assistance, but that, look, there are unethical senators, there are unethical presidents, there are unethical doctors, unethical lawyers, unethical prosecutors, there are unethical cops. They should be rooted out,” Biden later added.

Fifth news item

Unfortunately, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey puts his money where his mouth is:

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey announced on Thursday that he was donating $10 million to Boston University’s Center for Antiracist Research, a project recently launched by the antiracist scholar Ibram X. Kendi.

Kendi is the author of the 2019 book How to Be An Antiracist, one of two books that attracted renewed attention following the death of George Floyd. (The other is Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility.) In a tweet, he thanked Dorsey for the grant, which came with “no strings attached.”

Here is the outrageous proposal to amend the Constitution:

To fix the original sin of racism, Americans should pass an anti-racist amendment to the U.S. Constitution that enshrines two guiding anti-racist principals: Racial inequity is evidence of racist policy and the different racial groups are equals. The amendment would make unconstitutional racial inequity over a certain threshold, as well as racist ideas by public officials (with “racist ideas” and “public official” clearly defined). It would establish and permanently fund the Department of Anti-racism (DOA) comprised of formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees. The DOA would be responsible for preclearing all local, state and federal public policies to ensure they won’t yield racial inequity, monitor those policies, investigate private racist policies when racial inequity surfaces, and monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas. The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas.

Sixth news item

Dear Japan, this is why God gave us wine and Netflix and online shopping:

Finding the pandemic scary? A Japanese group is trying to take people’s minds off COVID-19 – by putting them in coffins surrounded by chainsaw-wielding zombies.

Customers this weekend in Tokyo can lie in a 2-metre (6 1/2-foot) windowed box, listening to a horror story, watching actors perform and getting poked with fake hands and squirted with water.

“The pandemic is stressful, and we hope people can get a bit of relief by having a good scream,” said Kenta Iwana, coordinator of production company Kowagarasetai – “Scare Squad” – which is putting on the 15-minute shows.

Seventh news item

Just. Stop. It. God is not amused by your foolishness:

Eighth news item

Props to anyone willing to face their particular struggle head-on, and do the necessary hard work to know victory. No matter how small or how large the win, it will inspire the individual to keep on keeping on and inspire us to cheer them on.

Have a great weekend.

–Dana

631 Responses to “Weekend Open Thread”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (292df6)

  2. Good morning, Dana. May I comment as nkAnon on this thread?

    nk (1d9030)

  3. My comment about the new FDA conspiracy theory missed the open thread by *this* much…

    :-(

    Dave (1bb933)

  4. If they are accepting the trash from lancet as fact, committing malpractice.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  5. The problem with Covid is with testing. Currently, tests take about 8 or 10 days to go to the lab, be processed, and the result returned to the patient. Obviously this is useless for preventing spread or informing people of their illness or lack thereof. What we need are cheap home tests that self-analyze.

    And there are some. They have a few faults — they cannot detect the virus in the first say or two, resulting in some false negatives when compared with the lab-run tests. But most importantly, they are of no use to the bureaucracy as they do not report results to government and therefor government cannot control the situation, nor can they develop statistics on how well the government is controlling the situation.

    All these tests can accomplish is informing people and their employers that they are sick early on in the infection, allowing for isolation and disease containment. Which will put a lot of those government folks out of work. Can;t have that.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  6. *first DAY or tow

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  7. #4

    So the Lancet is fake news (or fake science)? Jeebus Narc, do you ever wonder how you got to a point where you say things like that?

    Appalled (23799e)

  8. To all Satanologists: “666” is not the number of the beast. “DCLXVI” is.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  9. In this instance as well as that vaccine piece back

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  10. Racial inequity is evidence of racist policy and the different racial groups are equals. The amendment would make unconstitutional racial inequity over a certain threshold,

    So the NBA and NFL will be limited to maybe 20% or so black players?

    JVW (ee64e4)

  11. I suppose it’s “just a coincidence” that the #DemConvention logo turned sideways has the EXACT same design and measurements as another familiar logo. Satanism is alive and well.

    Don’t look now, but if you turn this Trump campaign poster upside-down, it has the exact same Satanic symbol!

    nkAnon, save us!

    Dave (1bb933)

  12. Lancet has a bad habit of publishing wide-quoted articles, then retracting. Wakefield’s original anti-vax “research” was published here.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  13. I see that Trump-Pence is being deprecated of late.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  14. JVW (ee64e4) — 8/22/2020 @ 10:27 am

    *gigglesnort*

    Dave (1bb933)

  15. “I would shut it down; I would listen to the scientists,” Biden told Muir Friday.

    Hammer him with that.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  16. Hammer him with that.

    Because the alternative has worked out so well for us.

    Dave (1bb933)

  17. I’m still nk, Mr. Dave. I’ve been married, I know silence does not imply assent.

    The minions of Satan, such as this Greg Locke character, are false prophets and they have no compunction about claiming to worship God and accusing others of Satanism.

    And the number of the Beast was in Greek numerals, Kevin. ΧΞϚ´

    nk (1d9030)

  18. I wonder how wide-spread this is, but locally “distance learning” is a complete bust. The local schools system’s communications infrastructure is about two orders of magnitude insufficient to handle the load of all the kids logging in from home. Fixing it now is about as easy as getting a new air conditioner installed in July.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  19. Because the alternative has worked out so well for us.

    Hey, Dave, I gonna bet that the opinions of your faculty on this differ markedly from the opinions of your students.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  20. nk, I am amazed that the Greeks has symbols for “600” and “60”. You are aware, I assume, that the concept of the zero, and decade-positioning wasn’t invented until well after the New Testament was finalized?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  21. The concept of “ten things” (or 60, or 600) does not require fancy digits and satanic deceptions like “zero”.

    The Roman numerals aren’t fundamentally any different.

    Dave (1bb933)

  22. And, after some research I AM amazed, although there seems to be some divergence among ancient and medieval usage.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  23. The Roman numerals aren’t fundamentally any different.

    Than a 50 with a mark? No. But “666” won’t occur in any ancient system for six hundred three score and six.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  24. I’ve been married, I know silence does not imply assent.

    Wisdom.

    Dana (292df6)

  25. I didn’t know that, Kevin. If the Beast is Nero, then Revelations would be from around 64-68 AD, during the scapegoating of Christians for the burning of Rome.

    nk (1d9030)

  26. @20 They probably just need new servers, so it wouldn’t be that hard to fix. How do they do standardized testing if they don’t have servers that will handle everyone logging on simultaneously. Are they not doing their testing on-line yet?

    Nic (896fdf)

  27. So the NBA and NFL will be limited to maybe 20% or so black players?

    JVW (ee64e4) — 8/22/2020 @ 10:27 am

    Heh. Smartypants makes good sense.

    Dana (292df6)

  28. I’ve said in other threads that I thick excessive use for force by the police is a problem and that I take seriously the complaints of people who say it’s a systemic problem. Whether it’s born disproportionately by poor people, black people, or poor black people is debatable. But identifying a problem without a solution isn’t terribly useful.

    Coyoteblog is written by a really interesting libertarian and small business owner. His articles on starting his business and doing business in California are going to be entertaining to anyone that likes business and small government.

    He’s recently put up a post about campaign zero.

    As he put it: They

    seem to be doing the hard local work to change laws and union contracts. They have state by state and city by city progress lists at passing key pieces of their reform agenda, model legislation, etc. I also like the fact that while they acknowledge racism as part of the problem, they frame the issue more broadly as a general issue of police violence and accountability. I don’t agree with 100% of their program but as a libertarian I long ago got comfortable making common cause at less than 100% levels of agreement.

    Some of their ideas, such as ending policing for profit are appealing to a limited government perspective. I don’t know how anyone who values personal freedom can look favorably at confiscatory policies that can take your property without due process and force you to work to get it back.

    Others, such as the racial makeup of the police don’t seem likely to result in any positive outcome.

    Regardless, it’s worth looking at what people who are going to beyond protesting have to say about what they want. I think if the media were competently left biased they’d be putting more focus on things like Campaign Zero.

    Time123 (ae9d89)

  29. I think i got a comment stuck in moderation for too many links.

    Time123 (ae9d89)

  30. Released it.

    Dana (292df6)

  31. Thanks Dana.

    Time123 (53ef45)

  32. So, does the Japanese Scare Squad’s plan to scare the Covid fear right of you sound appealing?? I don’t get it.

    Dana (292df6)

  33. We seem to be doing everything that damages the vulnerable and destroys the economy, and provokes unwarranted fear

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  34. Hey, Dave, I gonna bet that the opinions of your faculty on this differ markedly from the opinions of your students.

    The reason we can’t open schools or businesses safely eight months after the start of the pandemic, and why we’re losing 15 times as many people every day, per capita, as France, and 50 times as many per capita as Germany, is because the self-styled rugged individualist crowd, cheered on by the ignoramus-in-chief, decided to ignore the scientific recommendations (from the White House’s own “task force”!) that worked for every other country in the world that followed them.

    Dave (1bb933)

  35. I ridicule Trump frequently for being a weak and incompetent leader. This is a great example of that. The FDA works for him.

    There’s no reason he can’t get into the details and ensure that the FDA is being exactly as aggressive and efficient as he wants them to be. If he’s too busy to do it personally, or lacks the time to get up to speed he can delegate it to someone he trusts. But rather than do the work and help make the situation better he whines on twitter like a fool and get’s his excuses in place to preemptively blame nebulous deep state. It’s another contemptible act that just serves to make him look weak and divide the public.

    Time123 (ae9d89)

  36. but mr dave all those people would still be alive if we didnt test so much

    its very easy to understand if people would just pay attention to mr president donald when he explains everything

    Dave (1bb933)

  37. Explain peru and new zealand and other paragons of isolation

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ELuttwak/status/1297204480879067138

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  38. Props to anyone willing to face their particular struggle head-on, and do the necessary hard work to know victory.

    Good for the young man, indeed. But I’m not too keen on the Democrats exploiting his struggle and using it as a shield to try to deflect legitimate criticism that their candidate is showing signs of dementia. The young man deserves better than to be used so cynically.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  39. There’s no reason he can’t get into the details and ensure that the FDA is being exactly as aggressive and efficient as he wants them to be.

    Pfft.

    There’s TV to be watched and golf to be played.

    Dave (1bb933)

  40. New Zealand’s last COVID-19 death was on May 28.

    Dave (1bb933)

  41. They shut down the country and postponed the election, but thats what a tool ofchona would do, which she is.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  42. They all knew.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  43. China would do, just like the elimination of firearms, which was her other brave step.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  44. Most countries with parliamentary systems have flexible election dates. By law, NZ has to hold their election by November 21. It was originally scheduled for September 19, and will now be October 17.

    The Prime Minister has sole responsibility to set the date of the election within the allowed time frame, and she apparently has broad support for the decision, which is perceived as being a matter of common sense.

    Dave (1bb933)

  45. global greta and this chap need a date

    mg (8cbc69)

  46. Props?

    So far Plagiarist JoeyBee has repeatedly leaned on a podium, leaned on his long dead son Beau as an emotional crutch, leaned on showcasing multiple minorities- none of which represent the complexion of the majority of the American electorate, leaned [actually used] a stuttering child [no slam on the child’s courage BTW] to elicit empathy, pushed bossy pants black and brown women into voter faces letting the tail of his party wag his dog. The “soul of America” ain’t only ridin’ Amtrak’s Soul Train, Joe.

    He is weak.

    He ignored any effort to attract back the lunch bucket ‘Reagan Democrats’ – the farmers, 18-wheeler drivers, the third shifters at Anheiser-Busch breweries, etc., etc., who went for Trump in the Rustbelt, the Midwest and rural farmlands regions between Pgh., and Philly and so on.

    FDR had polio; a cripple- the common term for it in his era- FDR could not stand w/o steel braces on his legs. But FDR never waved them to the crowds to elicit empathy nor leaned on them to cull a sympathy vote. FDR stood firm- [painfully, too] against multiple and daunting challenges, spoke to the American people with a confident voice in a positive tone- exchanged Q&A w/t press– travelled across the country– and would never, ever have uttered, “No miracle is coming” to the American people facing the hardships of their time.

    Plagiarist Joe Biden, who was forced to quit his presidential campaign in 1988 for being caught doing it repeatedly in his life- has hovered in national level of government nearly half-a-century, collecting a government paycheck and been the best friend big banks and Delaware’s DuPont has had.

    Biden is the problem; everybody is trying to “prop” him up. Weak, emotionally damaged, clearly senile– and the very symbol of the Washington swamp. All reasons newcomer Trump beat his saged, seasoned GOP competitors– and Fireplug Hillary in the first place.

    Biden is an American past and passed over; not the American future.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  47. DCSCA,

    All of which has nothing to do with the teenage boy that I was complimenting for working his tail off and implementing useful tips from another stutterer to be able to give a short speech at a national convention.

    Dana (292df6)

  48. @49. Which was noted in my comment- the kid did swell- but he was used. I have a friend who was asked to attend the SOTU by the Obama people to be used as a ‘prop.’

    My friend refused.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  49. pushed bossy pants black and brown women into voter faces letting the tail of his party wag his dog

    That’s some statement there…

    Dana (292df6)

  50. @51. And sadly, it’s true.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  51. Trump would have a hired a child actor from Actors’ Equity. We might very well see one yet. A 13-year old in a sailor suit. Trump likes them in sailor suits.

    nk (1d9030)

  52. Do you even listen to what you say?

    bossy pants black and brown women

    Dana (292df6)

  53. @51.Postscript; if you think that relentless pitch, night after night, won the hearts and minds of the Reagan Democrat Rustbelt third shifters or 18-wheeler drivers on cross country runs sipping coffee in some Kansas diner or on the Pennsylvania Turnpike between Pittsburgh and Philly, more power to you. But doubt I did. We’ll see how much of a ‘bump’ he and Kammy gets. Her accolades have quieted quickly.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  54. Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:17 am

    Wow. They should dig up the clips of his current paid liar Kayeleigh McEnany when she told the truth about him back in 2015 too.

    That Cruz speech, on the day Trump clinched the nomination in Indiana, is the definitive treatise who and what Donald Trump is. Everything that’s happened since is just a footnote to it.

    SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This morning, Donald Trump went on national television and attacked my father.

    Donald Trump alleges that my dad was involved in assassinating JFK. Now, let’s be clear. This is nuts. This is not a reasonable position. This is just kooky. And while I’m at it, I guess I should go ahead and admit, yes, my dad killed JFK, he is secretly Elvis, and Jimmy Hoffa is buried in his backyard.

    You know, Donald’s source for this is “The National Enquirer.” “The National Enquirer” is tabloid trash. But it’s run by his good friend David Pecker, the CEO, who has endorsed Donald Trump. And so “The National Enquirer” has become his hit piece that he uses to smear anybody and everybody.

    And this is not the first time Donald Trump has used David Pecker’s “National Enquirer” to go after my family. It was also “The National Enquirer” that went after my wife, Heidi, that just spread lies, blatant lies.

    But I guess Donald was dismayed, because it was a couple of weeks ago “The Enquirer” wrote this idiotic story about JFK. And Donald was dismayed that the folks in the media weren’t repeating this latest idiocy, so he figured he would have to do it himself. He would have to go on national television and accuse my dad of that.

    Listen, my father is has been my hero my whole life. My dad was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba. And when he came to America, he had nothing. He had $100 in his underwear. He washed dishes making 50 cents an hour. You know, he is exactly the kind of person Donald Trump looks down on.

    I’m going to do something I haven’t done for the entire campaign. For those of you all who have traveled with me all across the country, I’m going to tell you what I really think of Donald Trump.

    This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying.

    He accuses everybody on that debate stage of lying. And it’s simply a mindless yell. Whatever he does, he accuses everyone else of doing. The man cannot tell the truth, but he combines it with being a narcissist, a narcissist at a level I don’t think this country’s ever seen.

    Donald Trump is such a narcissist that Barack Obama looks at him and goes, dude, what’s your problem? Everything in Donald’s world is about Donald. And he combines being a pathological liar — and I say pathological because I actually think Donald, if you hooked him up to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing at noon, and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he would pass the lie detector test each time.

    Whatever lie he’s telling, at that minute, he believes it. But the man is utterly amoral.
    The man is utterly amoral. Morality does not exist for him. It’s why he went after Heidi directly and smeared my wife, attacked her. Apparently, she’s not pretty enough for Donald Trump. I may be biased, but I think, if he’s making that allegation, he is also legally blind.

    But Donald is a bully. You know, we just visited with fifth-graders. Every one of us knew bullies in elementary school. Bullies don’t come from strength. Bullies come from weakness. Bullies come from a deep, yawning cavern of insecurity. There’s a reason Donald builds giant buildings and puts his name on them everywhere he goes.

    And I will say there are millions of people in this country who are angry. They’re angry at Washington. They’re angry at politicians who have lied to them. I understand that anger. I share that anger. And Donald is cynically exploiting that anger. And he is lying to his supporters.

    Donald will betray his supporters on every issue. If you care about immigration, Donald is laughing at you. And he’s telling the moneyed elites he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, he’s not going to build a wall. That’s what he told “The New York Times.”

    He will betray you on every issue across the board. And his strategy of being a bully in particular is directed as women. Donald has a real problem with women. People who are insecure, people who are insecure about who they are — Donald is terrified by strong women.

    He lashes out at them. Remember, this is the same Donald Trump who last week here in Indiana proudly touted the endorsement from Mike Tyson, a convicted rapist who served three years in prison here in Indiana for raping a 17-year-old girl. And in Donald’s world, he said Mike Tyson was a tough guy.

    I don’t think rapists are tough guys. I spent a lot of years in law enforcement dealing with rapists. Rapists are weak. They’re cowards and they’re bullies. And anyone that thinks they’re a tough guy, that reveals everything about Donald Trump’s character.

    Donald Trump said Bill Clinton was targeted by unattractive women. You know what? I have been blessed to be surrounded by strong women my entire life.

    Today’s voting day here in Indiana. The president of the United States has a bully pulpit unlike anybody else. The president of the United States affects our culture. I ask the people of Indiana, think about the next five years if this man were to become president.

    Think about the next five years, the boasting, the pathological lying, the picking up “The National Enquirer” and accusing people of killing JFK, the bullying. Think about your kids coming back and emulating this.

    For people in Indiana who long for a day when we were nice to each other, when we treated people with respect, when we didn’t engage in sleaze and lies — and I would note one of the lies he engages in, listen, Donald Trump is a serial philanderer, and he boasts about it. This is not a secret. He’s proud of being a serial philanderer.

    I want everyone to think about your teenage kids. The president of the United States talks about how great it is to commit adultery, and how proud he is, describes his battles with venereal disease as his own personal Vietnam. That’s a quote, by the way, on the Howard Stern show.

    Do you want to spend the next five years with your kids bragging about infidelity? Now, what does he do? He does the same projection. Just like a pathological liar, he accuses everyone of lying. Even though he boasts about his infidelity, he plants in David Pecker’s “National Enquirer” a lie about me and my family, attacking my family. He accuses others of doing what he is doing. I will tell you, as the father of two young girls, the idea of our daughters coming home and repeating any word that man says horrifies me.

    That is not who America is. And I would say to the Hoosier State, the entire country’s depending on you. The entire country is looking to you right now. It is only Indiana that can pull us back. It is only the good sense and good judgment of Indiana that can pull us back. We are staring at the abyss.

    Dave (1bb933)

  55. @54. Did you see who was showcased??

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  56. GOP Seeks to Match Democrats in Mail-In Vote Applications Amid Trump Criticism
    Republicans are playing catch-up with Democrats to boost the number of their voters requesting mail-in ballots in key states, an effort that is complicated by President Trump’s criticism of all-mail voting.

    In North Carolina, Democratic registered voters requested 53% of the absentee ballots compared with 15% from Republican voters, according to an Aug. 19 analysis by Michael Bitzer, a professor of politics and history at Catawba College in Salisbury, N.C.
    ……
    The North Carolina Trump Victory committee recently sent an appeal to GOP voters with an image of President Trump and a partial quote from one of his July tweets: “Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege.” The mailer blurred out the second half of the tweet in which the president said: “Not so with Mail-Ins. Rigged Election!!! 20% fraudulent ballots?”
    …….
    Four years ago, Mr. Trump won some politically important states with high levels of voting by mail. In Arizona, mail-in votes accounted for 75% of all ballots. In Florida and Michigan, they were about a quarter of the total votes, according to the Journal’s analysis of the states’ turnout data.
    …….
    All registered voters in North Carolina may request an absentee ballot for the November election without a special reason, which was also the case before the pandemic.
    ……..
    …….Florida Democrats say they have gained an edge, as they have been encouraging voting by mail amid the pandemic. Late last month, the state Democratic party said it had gained a lead of 500,000 vote-by-mail enrollments over Republicans, with more than 1.86 million Democrats signed up.

    “President Trump decided to spread dangerous disinformation about the effectiveness of voting by mail—clearly that has made an impression on Florida Republicans,” Florida Democratic Party Chair Terrie Rizzo said Tuesday after the state’s primary.
    …….
    In Arizona, some 74% of the state’s electorate have signed up for the state’s Permanent Early Voting List, meaning they are automatically mailed a ballot for every election in which they are eligible to vote.

    The Permanent Early Voting List, which the Arizona legislature established in 2007, doesn’t show a sharp partisan divide. About 36% of voters who have signed up are Republicans, some 35.8% are Democrats, about 27.3% are independents and a sliver are Libertarians, according to data from the secretary of state’s office.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  57. That is a powerful ad.

    nk (1d9030)

  58. Do you even listen to what you say?

    Remember, he fantasizes about living in 1964 again…

    Dave (1bb933)

  59. @54. Postscript- Even CNN’s Don Lemon noted one evening, – ‘no white men spoke tonight.’ The messaging certainly was not ‘inclusive’ and alienated the very voters they need to bring back to the flock to defeat Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  60. @60. Remember, he fantasizes about living in 1964 again…

    We’re deep into 1968, now, Davey.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  61. benefits of that iran deal,

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/08/iran-money-trail-links-hezbollah-to-beirut-blast-german-newspaper-die-welt-reports/

    johnson was deemed the normal candidate, then vietnam riots, general depravity, the stages bezmenov noted nearly 40 years ago,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  62. Court orders Donald Trump to pay legal fees in Stormy Daniels suit
    A California Superior Court judge has ordered President Donald Trump to pay $44,100 to Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels, to reimburse her attorneys’ fees in the legal battle surrounding her nondisclosure agreement.
    …….
    In his decision this week, Judge Robert Broadbelt III ruled that Clifford was entitled to legal fees, finding her the “prevailing party” under California law, despite the case having been dismissed.

    Broadbelt also rejected an argument by Trump’s attorneys that the President was not liable for the fees because he had not signed the NDA.

    In his decision, Broadbelt wrote that since Trump had reimbursed Cohen for the $130,000 payment to Clifford, and since the Trump legal team had earlier argued that a defamation suit filed against the President by Clifford should be handled by an arbitrator per the NDA, the President was effectively a party to the agreement.
    >>>>>>
    I’m so proud to have a President involved in situations like this.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  63. #55

    The Reagan Democrat is pretty old now and probably watches Fox and proudly wears his MAGA hat. In other words, he’s not a voter Biden will reach. Biden wants those suburban women who is tired of Trump and his studied cruelty and his TV villain version of Conservatism. In Georgia, look at the Marco Rubio vote and how it has glided over to Democratic candidates and n 2018. The same will happen. Biden is grandpa — cranky maybe but harmless. Trump is not JR Ewing anymore — he’s a creepy superhero movie supervillain.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  64. #36 Deaths per million population covid 19
    U.S. 542
    France 467
    Germany 111

    Your data is corrupted Dave. And if you took out New York and New Jersey the numbers would be much closer.

    1DaveMac (4cc9b4)

  65. @56. ROFLMAOPIP!!

    With apologies to the great Tom Lehrer:

    Gather round while I sing you of Canadian Cruz;
    A man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience;
    Call him unprincipled for changing his views;
    Principles, schminzables,” coos Canadian Cruz

    Don’t say that he’s hypocritical,
    Say rather that he’s quite political;
    “I didn’t back Trump but now it’s old news!
    Memories are short,” coos Canadian Cruz

    Some have harsh words for his bait-and-switch ruse,
    But some say their attitude should be one of gratitude;
    Like the wife and the father; their honor abused,
    So easily betrayed by Canadian Cruz

    You become a conservative hero;
    Showing Texans you’ll stand up for zero;
    “In Calgary ‘oder’ Houston I have proved I won’t lose,
    And I’ll prove it again,” coos Canadian Cruz

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  66. The Reagan Democrat is pretty old now

    Old people vote.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  67. Trump is not JR Ewing anymore

    Wrong; he is JR Ewing for at least 8 seasons.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  68. Your data is corrupted Dave.

    My data is accurate.

    Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people, averaged over the last seven days:

    United States: 3.08
    France: 0.20
    Germany: 0.06

    Source (with interactive graph)

    I look forward to your apology.

    Dave (1bb933)

  69. @64. Portland and Chicago are doing it just fine, Davey.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. Those numbers were for the seven days up to yesterday; up to today:

    US: 3.00
    France: 0.21
    Germany: 0.06

    Dave (1bb933)

  71. It’s a bit warm where he is at the moment, Deezy-eska, but Governor Wallace appreciates your support.

    And he looks forward to seeing you soon.

    Dave (1bb933)

  72. @61-
    Given the fact that head of the ticket is (still) white and male (and the same generation as Trump) the more things change the more they stay the same. Further, how many “ farmers, 18-wheeler drivers, the third shifters at Anheiser-Busch breweries” actually watched the convention? I doubt that many. They voted for Trump because he sold them a bill of goods that he has been unable to deliver and had an opponent that was a gift.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  73. World Health Organization says 7 months of Covid have resulted in 790K deaths according to CNBC.

    Contrast this with:

    Obesity 3 Million per year
    Malaria 1 to 3 Million Children per year
    Lung Cancer 1.7 Million per year

    (all figures world wide)

    Compared to Covid, these deaths are catastophic.

    Once Joe Biden realizes this, will he shut down the country?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  74. When Joe first met Brayden. It was almost as moving as the kid’s presentation. This is empathy embodied.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  75. (Wallace eventually repented, of course, so it’s the 1968 version of him that sends “warm” regards…)

    Dave (1bb933)

  76. Did you see who was showcased??

    I didn’t watch the convention, but watched a few clips, and read who was being featured. And what I discovered was that those who were showcased represented America today. We may not like the Democratic politics, but the country is not just made up of white people, nor is the electorate solely made up of white people. And although minorities are just that, it doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t have a seat at the table. If the GOP came to their senses, they would be making a concerted effort to reach out to all communities because that is America. And it’s going to continue on that way. Make big tent claims, then prove you are the big tent party.

    Dana (292df6)

  77. Compared to Covid, these deaths are catastophic.

    And which of the three are contagious, Einstein?

    Dave (1bb933)

  78. Once Joe Biden realizes this, will he shut down the country?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/22/2020 @ 12:15 pm

    You contributing to your obesity by shoving in your sixth piece of pizza doesn’t put me at risk of becoming obese or making my family obses. You smoking 5 packs a day and contracting lung cancer doesn’t give me lung cancer. Your second-hand smoke might. (And yes, people have been known to get lung cancer without smoking. But you get my point.) Biden would not become the president of countries that face massive malaria outbreaks. He would just be the president of the United States, remember?

    Dana (292df6)

  79. @75

    How many “farmers, 18-wheeler drivers, the third shifters at Anheiser-Busch breweries” will vote for Biden once they realize he’ll shut down the country and their jobs in five months with the economy largely recovered?

    That and higher taxes, Green New Deal, health care for illegals, etc., etc., will surely get these working Americans on board.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  80. Keep the dogs at home. The future is bomb-sniffing cyborg locusts.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  81. @79. I didn’t watch the convention, but watched a few clips, and read who was being featured. And what I discovered was that those who were showcased represented America today.

    I watched it all.

    No, It did not. And that’s the point. Perez ‘showcased’ what the NC sees within the constituency o their bubble. America’s electorate is 75% white. The DNC blatantly ignored them- the ‘Reagan Democrats’. And without them, Biden loses. And given his health, a President Harris is more than likely.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  82. Given the fact that head of the ticket is (still) white and male (and the same generation as Trump) the more things change the more they stay the same.

    Irrelevant. Look at him; listen to him; he’ll be dead in 18 months.

    Ponder a President Harris.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  83. @80 that’s MR Einstein to you. LOL

    What is truly contagious is Dem propaganda and shiny objects e.g. ORANGE MAN BAD.

    Instead of looking at what a neanderthal Trump is, look at Biden’s insane platform… not possible to put all of that into practice. Who will pay for it? They are the same mentality shutting down Lyft and Uber in California… same mentality that allows major US cities to be destroyed and burned right before our eyes…

    Yes… absolutely… THIS is the party you want controlling things!

    Why not just move to New York City and savor some of that “Democrat leadership” awhile, before casting a vote in stone?

    There are plenty of vacancies.

    Are you awake or are you woke?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  84. @69-
    And seniors in key states have turned against Trump as a result of COVID-19. You would think Trump would be more aggressive than dismissive against COVID-19 since it’s killing his key demographic. His plan to repeal the payroll tax underpinning Social Security and Medicare was brave or stupid, depending on your point of view. He should have proposed repealing the programs over the long term if he really wanted to commit political suicide.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  85. Meanwhile, back in reality:

    A new Morning Consult poll of 4,377 likely voters conducted Friday found Biden leads Trump by 9 percentage points, 52 percent to 43 percent, statistically unchanged from a Monday survey of 4,141 likely voters, when he led the president by 8 points. Monday’s responses have a 2-point margin of error and the Friday poll has a 1-point margin of error.

    Despite the lack of movement, Biden is in a significantly more commanding position coming out of his party’s gathering than Hillary Clinton was four years ago following the Philadelphia convention, when Morning Consult polling of registered voters found many more were undecided.

    Following the four-night commercial that emphasized Biden’s personal characteristics and bipartisan bonafides over his policy preferences, likely voters’ views about the Delawarean improved to their best point this year, building a solid foundation ahead of Republicans’ coming work to tear it down next week. Compared to Monday, the share with favorable opinions of Biden rose 3 points, to 51 percent — a single-day high in Morning Consult polling — while the share with unfavorable views fell by the same amount, to 45 percent.

    Trump’s popularity went unchanged, with 43 percent expressing favorable views and 55 percent expressing unfavorable views.

    Dave (1bb933)

  86. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Trump dump Pence- bump him up to the head office and him Ambassador to the Court of St. James [he’ll love London]- and take Haley on as the VP. Probably too late–but would not be surprised. It’s a Trump card to play

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  87. Compared to Covid, these deaths are catastophic.

    Sticking to the United States, the leading causes of death in 2017 were…

    Heart disease: 647,457
    Cancer: 599,108
    Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
    Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
    Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
    Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
    Diabetes: 83,564
    Influenza and pneumonia: 55,672
    Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,633
    Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173

    At 179,737 dead Americans as of today from CV19 over just five months, which makes the virus this nation’s 3rd largest killer, what exactly is more catastrophic than this virus that plunged our economy into a recession?

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  88. If the GOP came to their senses, they would be making a concerted effort to reach out to all communities because that is America. And it’s going to continue on that way. Make big tent claims, then prove you are the big tent party.

    If they came to their senses, they’d jettison supply-side economics; but then they wouldn’t the GOP the misty-eyed Reaganites miss. They’d be ‘Rockefeller Republicans.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  89. It’s truly amazing, that with the country and economy in disarray, while every other advanced, wealthy country has a tiny fraction of our current death rate and gets on with the safe re-opening their economies and schools, we still hear the slow learners repeating the same stupid arguments their clown prince made back in March and April when he condemned us to this nightmare.

    Dave (1bb933)

  90. @90
    “…what exactly is more catastrophic than this virus that plunged our economy into a recession?”

    Someone who takes the office of President, shuts down the economy AGAIN in January and plunges us into depression!

    If you look at Sweden, they have fared the best by really paying attention to the Science.
    They realize that these viruses cannot be stopped, and therefore protected their most vulnerable citizens (sick and elderly) while allowing herd immunity to build as the virus worked its way through their society. No shut downs of business, no shut down of schools, masks voluntary, life remained mostly normal for Swedes.

    Face it. China released yet another scourge on world society we must contend with and there is no cure and no going back. (We still battle the flu which remains deadly, well over a century and there is still no “cure” for it, just vaccines which reduce risk.)

    This damn thing will have to run its course for the most part, as is evidenced by the sloping off of new cases, death, hospitalization, etc.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  91. @92

    What precisely did the clown prince do as you see it… please be specific.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  92. I’ve said in other threads that I thick excessive use for force by the police is a problem and that I take seriously the complaints of people who say it’s a systemic problem.

    The way I put it last month was that black folks should EXPECT the same fair treatment that white folk, by and large, expect. And yes, it may also hinge on economics, but police in, say, Santa Monica might have a different initial reaction to a black homeowner with a gun than a white homeowner with a gun. Both will be told to drop the weapon but the black guy will probably do it faster.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  93. #71 over the last 7 days, sample size is too small and not conclusive, total deaths have more information in the data. No apology coming. You need to learn basic statistics.

    1DaveMac (4cc9b4)

  94. ow do they do standardized testing if they don’t have servers that will handle everyone logging on simultaneously

    Local network is different than remote network. Schools may have the bandwidth for some portion of the students to be accessing remote sites at a given moment but 1) this is wildly asymmetric with little outgoing, and 2) it doesn’t compare to everyone accessing inwards at the same time. The outgoing channel, which was never the greater bandwidth is now having to serve up images and video to hundreds of students at the same time.

    Now, there could be server issues, but I suspect you won’t see those until you fix the external bandwidth issues.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  95. LOL. Are we supposed to believe Uncle Joe isn’t going to defund the police? His campaign is bailing out Antifa. The left wing Democrats want to defund the police or get rid of them altogether. They blame all the police brutality on Trump. But now we should believe Uncle Joe when he says Trump will defund the police.

    OK.

    Glad the media is there to fact check Biden’s lies.

    Hoi Polloi (dc4124)

  96. There’s no reason he can’t get into the details and ensure that the FDA is being exactly as aggressive and efficient as he wants them to be.

    From that Twitter link:

    We don’t need a vaccine, especially a fast tracked vaccine. HCQ works and should be available OTC like it is in many other countries.

    There are probably worse things than Donald Trump getting hands-on, but I can’t think of one offhand.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  97. If you look at Sweden, they have fared the best by really paying attention to the Science.

    No, they haven’t “fared best”. There are lots of countries that have handled CV19 better than Sweden. Their mortality is higher than ours, they had the highest death tally in 150 years, but their economy declined less than ours. They reacted to the spike in cases by getting more militant about social distancing, and they’ve kept it more or less contained, something that we the United States are continuing to fail at.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  98. The U.S. is a a much larger distribution of population centers than either France or Germany. Until recently France had more deaths per capita than the U.S. You imply that policy differences between the US, France and Germany explain the differences. The US has 50 state governments with 50 different policies with widely varying infection densities from state to state and time period to time period. The explanatory power of your assertions are literally zero. You take a very general population statistic and claim it explains everything. In reality it explains very little. State and local case statistics have far more information and show results of policy differences between the states. Come back when you have done some real analysis with conclusions that can be supported by hard data.

    1DaveMac (4cc9b4)

  99. At 179,737 dead Americans as of today from CV19 over just five months, which makes the virus this nation’s 3rd largest killer, what exactly is more catastrophic than this virus that plunged our economy into a recession?

    Now, suppose it is shown that China made this* on purpose. Even if accidentally released, what is our response?

    ——————
    * this virus has nearly all of the gottahaves for a biological weapon, including the lack of mass mortality which is, as everyobe knows, is too dangerous. I really don’t know what I would add to this to make it a better weapon.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  100. The virus would be contained by now if the cheap quick-result home tests were allowed to be sold.

    Current lab-based testing is USELESS for containment. It is the equivalent of chalk outlines around the murder victim. It allows someone to say “This person was sick” and “This person died/recovered/is hospitalized due to Covid-19.” It’s great for updating statistics and showing why your bureaucratic unit needs more money. But for any prospective activity these lab tests are useless.

    Even if a home test won’t show positive until antibodies show up, that will happen by day 3 or 4, which is a week earlier than the “accurate” tests.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  101. The top 5 states in deaths per capita account for 37% of all us deaths. 4 of the 5 are in the northeast. One, Louisiana is in the south. This shows an extremely skewed regional death pattern. It can’t be explained by which states got infected first as west coast states did much better.

    1DaveMac (4cc9b4)

  102. …he condemned us to this nightmare.

    Sitting at home, on UI, watching HDTV and playing w/your interweb gadgets, online schooling, getting food and financial aid, wearing a mask… some nightmare.

    It’s not like your city is being fire bombed by air twice, day and night, by Nawwwwzies and all your ‘leader’ can do is flash a ‘V’- croak ‘we can take it’ and then scurry back into his bunker– in Westminster– not Wilmington.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  103. Shorter DCSCA: “Old white men are the past, not the future. But also, no women or black or brown people!”

    By process of elimination, I’m guessing that DCSCA thinks that the Dems should only nominate handsome young white males.

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  104. Sitting at home, on UI, watching HDTV and playing w/your interweb gadgets, online schooling, getting food and financial aid, wearing a mask… some nightmare.

    That grossly understates the negative aspects of a phenomenon that has thus far cost this country 175,000 lives.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  105. #71 over the last 7 days, sample size is too small and not conclusive, total deaths have more information in the data. No apology coming. You need to learn basic statistics.

    LOL. “not conclusive“. Your comment is a serious contender for the silliest thing ever written on the internet.

    The current rates (which are very stable from week to week) are what determine whether we can live normal lives safely.

    And, since you brought up the subject, I’ll be happy to put my understanding of statistics up against yours, or anyone else’s. I’m an experimental particle physicist and have taught statistics and other advanced math at the graduate level. What are your credentials in this area?

    The statistical uncertainty on the US rate of 3.0 deaths per million per day is about 0.03. The uncertainty on Germany’s rate of 0.06 is about 0.01.

    The difference between the two rates is 2.94 with an uncertainty of about 0.04. That makes the difference a 78-standard deviation effect.

    The chance of a difference that large arising because the data are “inconclusive” (i.e. the measured data do not represent the true population) is *smaller* than 4 x 10^(-1324).

    I had to use Mathematica’s online expression evaluator to compute that, because it’s too small for my programmable scientific calculator to handle.

    So, apology please?

    Dave (1bb933)

  106. You take a very general population statistic and claim it explains everything. In reality it explains very little. State and local case statistics have far more information and show results of policy differences between the states. Come back when you have done some real analysis with conclusions that can be supported by hard data.

    That’s a lame excuse, assigning zero responsibility to a president who still hasn’t taken CV19 seriously. The spread and containment of the virus would have been vastly different if a more aggressive national response were made instead of just passing it off to the states and telling them to deal with testing, tracking, social distancing, masking, etc.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  107. That grossly understates the negative aspects of a phenomenon that has thus far cost this country 175,000 lives.

    Personal responsibility; avoid crowds, wear a mask.

    If people practiced common sense instead of waving the Constitution in defiance, that number would be significantly less.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  108. @100

    “Fared best” is an overall assessment.
    There is no free lunch.

    “Faring well” includes, IMHO, that by reducing depression, violence, destruction, esuicide, financial ruin, and a host of other “shut down” related scenarios and disasters, this is “faring” better than those locales that dove off the deep end like some of our State Governors and City Mayors have.

    I would say New York City is an excellent case study of how bad over reaction to the virus can be.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  109. @107. “You got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.” – Joe Biden, 2007

    =mike-drop=

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  110. @97 This still seems strange. We are not having issues at all from our end. There are some students having issues, but when our tech guys checked they are the result of having overtaxed wifi and/or bandwidth at home.

    Nic (896fdf)

  111. “Fared best” is an overall assessment.

    And it’s an assessment that’s wrong. South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Iceland and Germany have all fared better than Sweden. South Korea didn’t shut down its economy either, yet their cases per million and deaths per million are a fraction of Sweden’s.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  112. At the current and fairly flat level of deaths per day, this estimate seems pretty realistic.

    A quarter million deaths by election day.

    We’re not just sitting around playing on electronics.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  113. Here’s a graph showing just how “well” Sweden has done in aggregate, compared to us and their Nordic neighbors. (Spoiler alert: worse than everyone).

    Their current death rate per capita is better than ours, but worse than every other Northern European country.

    In other words, the “but Sweden!” narrative is another installment of alternative reality emanating from TrumpWorld…

    Dave (1bb933)

  114. @113 – See? You have way more in common with Joe Biden than either of you gets credit for.

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  115. To give credit where it is due, you usually give attribution for relying so heavily on the content of others.

    Leviticus (14d8a0)

  116. @118. You still don’t get it- it’s a win/win either way; the objective is to neuter the modern ideological conservative movement. The question you should be asking is- would you prefer a likely President Harris– or a possible President Haley.

    I prefer Haley.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  117. Avoid crowds, wear a mask. It works.

    Gathering for sporting events, motorcycle rallies and soon w/o masks is just stupid– and defies common sense.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  118. You are wrong because of the very different statistics for the different regions of the US. Your explanatory power is misleading because your homogenizing data over a large region and hiding significant detail. This is like using the statistic of an average density of an atom which includes the volume of the electron cloud without showing that the density of an atom is dominated by the nucleus. You are deliberately using data in a way that presents information in a misleading way.

    1DaveMac (4cc9b4)

  119. Louisiana is an example of a state that continues to have a higher fatality rate per capita than other states of similar size. It would be useful to really understand the reason for this other than orange man bad.

    1DaveMac (4cc9b4)

  120. @115

    You are correct that those countries have done better than Sweden.
    My original comment was comparing Sweden with the USA in terms of their over all approach, which
    I believe was better… i.e. not totally shutting down society for months.

    The virus cannot be stopped (at least for now and likely a long time), so the best we can do is not allow catastrophe to our nation by being unrealistic and over compensating, which has been the case in many places.

    The best case is to attempt to direct herd immunity without destroying society.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  121. You still don’t get it- it’s a win/win either way; the objective is to neuter the modern ideological conservative movement.

    But you succeeded in electing the only Republican that a plagiarizing mediocrity like Joe Biden could beat.

    Glorious.

    Haley is washed up, like everyone else who decided to go along for the ride in Trump’s clown car.

    Dave (1bb933)

  122. At the current and fairly flat level of deaths per day, this estimate seems pretty realistic.

    A quarter million deaths by election day.

    We’re not just sitting around playing on electronics.

    Eh, it is what it is, he told us…

    Dana (292df6)

  123. Haley is washed up because she came up with those quite-typical-of-Newts revolution Carolina conservatives. Shes not a Groyper-friendly douchebro that are now the standard bearers, and if DCSCA really listens to himself, those Rust Belters want a Becky if not a pre-2020 definition Karen as the first lady President (Kristi Noem is now thelow hanging fruit), not an H1B baby.

    urbanleftbehind (c40e81)

  124. Eh, it is what it is, he told us…

    “No miracle is coming.” – Joe Biden 8-20-20

    Yes.

    He did.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  125. Eh, it is what it is, he told us…

    The thing that outrages me is that we know exactly what has to be done to beat this. No mystery. Many of our peers in Europe have done it.

    And yet, at the highest level of government, our mentally deranged leader instead does everything in his power to prevent us from succeeding.

    Dave (1bb933)

  126. We all remember Dr Fauci predicting deaths in the US in the range of 2 Million people back in March.
    Here is just one excerpt from one source quoting him. It is also well known that he and Dr Birx advised Trump to shut down the country.

    Here’s part of the article from April 14

    “Dr. Fauci admitted on Monday that it was he and Dr. Birx who persuaded President Trump to kill the economy”

    “President Trump: The big projection being that 2.2 million people would die if we did nothing. That was another decision we made, close it up. That was a big decision that we made. Two very smart people walked into my office and said listen these are your alternatives. And that was a projection of 1.5 to 2.2 million people would die if we didn’t close it up. That’s a lot of people.”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/wow-dr-fauci-admits-dr-birx-two-experts-persuaded-trump-kill-economy-garbage-predictions-2-2-million-deaths/

    So given this as was the prediction from top doctor/scientists at the time, the prediction from the University of Washington model that 258,000 would succumb to the virus by election day, is an 88% reduction from Fauci’s worst case scenario in March.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  127. @127. Nah. Nikki’s the right age, right gender, right color, right-enuf experienced for the times– an available at the right time. Don’t agree w/ll he POV, bu shes right enough for the changing times. A 21st Century GOP would kill to not only slot the first woman CIC, but have her a woman of ‘color’- and steal a card out of the DNC deck.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  128. @126: Much more than a quarter million deaths by Election Day. In fact, there’s much more than that right now — worldwide. Oh, but all deaths aren’t created equal. Those that can’t be tenuously blamed on Trump don’t count. We don’t even include them in totals we discuss daily. And, we’re so committed to disassociate China from any blame that we can’t refer to the virus by its place of origin, because racist(!!). And, that the purported cause — exotic wet markets — are still functioning today doesn’t raise an eyebrow.

    beer ‘n pretzels (8fedbd)

  129. And yet, at the highest level of government, our mentally deranged leader instead does everything in his power to prevent us from succeeding.

    Personal responsibility. If Trump told you a cure for Covid-19 was jumping off a bridge would you jump? Common sense has a lo to do with this– waving the Constitution in defiance and not wearing a mask is not a common sense action. Wearing a mask and avoiding crowds are.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  130. mr. president donald trump, who when the adults sat around talking he and billy would go walking, knows where the buck stops

    it stops down the front of vladimir putin’s g-string

    so all you all can just stop it too

    nk (1d9030)

  131. @129

    “The thing that outrages me is that we know exactly what has to be done to beat this.”

    So please elucidate.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  132. 0.41% isn’t much, but I’ll take it.

    Oh, great: NASA says an asteroid is headed our way right before Election Day

    Amid a pandemic, civil unrest and a divisive US election season, we now have an asteroid zooming toward us.

    On the day before the presidential vote, no less.

    Yep. The celestial object known as 2018VP1 is projected to come close to Earth on November 2, according to the Center for Near Earth Objects Studies at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

    […]

    The chance of it hitting us is just 0.41%, data show.

    LOL. “Just” 0.41%.

    (Over-under on the first report that Trump has inquired about nuking the asteroid with ICBMs: 6 days)

    Dave (1bb933)

  133. bossy pants black and brown women

    Your usage of this old trope reveals much about you. It also reflects tendencies and views of Trump’s most ardent supporters. But for consistency’s sake, you would also include Condi Rice and Nikki Haley as a few of those bossy, black and brown women, right? (I would throw out a few other names, but I’m coming up short on prominent women in the Republican Party whose skin is something other than white…)

    Face it, the times they are a changing.

    Dana (292df6)

  134. Those that can’t be tenuously blamed on Trump don’t count.

    When talking about what he is responsible for, of course.

    Did Trump do a good job or a bad job? This is the basic question in our country.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  135. Nah. Nikki’s the ….

    You’ve got three days left to talk Trump into it.

    nk (1d9030)

  136. The d.n.c. stirring eulogy to joe’s life was a bit premature as he is still alive as of 3 minutes ago.

    asset (4d17d8)

  137. By way of Moscow would be your best bet.

    nk (1d9030)

  138. Much more than a quarter million deaths by Election Day. In fact, there’s much more than that right now — worldwide. Oh, but all deaths aren’t created equal. Those that can’t be tenuously blamed on Trump don’t count. We don’t even include them in totals we discuss daily. And, we’re so committed to disassociate China from any blame that we can’t refer to the virus by its place of origin, because racist(!!). And, that the purported cause — exotic wet markets — are still functioning today doesn’t raise an eyebrow.

    beer ‘n pretzels (8fedbd) — 8/22/2020 @ 2:38 pm

    Trump is the President of the United States. Only the United States. The safety of *this* country is his responsibility. No one is asking him or judging him for the death toll from Covid in other parts of the world. As I said above: You contributing to your obesity by shoving in your sixth piece of pizza doesn’t put me at risk of becoming obese or making my family obses. You smoking 5 packs a day and contracting lung cancer doesn’t give me lung cancer. Your second-hand smoke might. The U.S. doesn’t face massive deaths from malaria. And none of those things is contagious! They are not comparable to Covid-19 and its rate of contagion.

    Dana (292df6)

  139. I guess Dave is not going to share with us his knowledge of exactly how to beat Covid.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  140. I guess Dave is not going to share with us his knowledge of exactly how to beat Covid.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/22/2020 @ 2:54 pm

    Inject yourself with bleach and make some puns referencing China. Kung Flu is a good one. Do that, and COVID is gone “almost like a miracle.” Be sure to donate to Build the Wall, the NRA, and Liberty University to give thanks.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  141. I guess Dave is not going to share with us his knowledge of exactly how to beat Covid.

    How to disinfect a toilet:
    Step 1. Flush!

    nk (1d9030)

  142. @142

    Dana… you seem to be quite a liberal fellow, and I’d been genuinely interested in hearing what you would have done about the pandemic had you been president. I promise to be respectful… not a setup for a gotcha response.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  143. So please elucidate.

    This was released on April 16.

    The very next freaking day, April 17, Trump was inciting his cultists to flout them by tweeting “LIBERATE MINNESOTA”, “LIBERATE VIRGINIA” and “LIBERATE MICHIGAN”, turning it into a tribal issue he saw an opportunity to exploit for his own political gain, and sabotaging his own task force’s recommendations.

    The blood of tens (and eventually hundreds) of thousands of Americans is on his hands.

    Dave (1bb933)

  144. I guess Dave is not going to share with us his knowledge of exactly how to beat Covid.

    Wrong again.

    Dave (1bb933)

  145. So please elucidate.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/22/2020 @ 2:47 pm

    I guess Dave is not going to share with us his knowledge of exactly how to beat Covid.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/22/2020 @ 2:54 pm

    I’m so sorry it tool me more than seven minutes to respond to your request.

    FFS.

    Dave (1bb933)

  146. No thats actually cristina cuomos treatment, consort of the angel of death

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  147. Dana… you seem to be quite a liberal fellow, and I’d been genuinely interested in hearing what you would have done about the pandemic had you been president. I promise to be respectful… not a setup for a gotcha response.

    FYI, Dana is a woman, and politically conservative.

    Dave (1bb933)

  148. So Dana and Paul, I am curious to know, given our federal system, what percentage of fatalities you ascribe to Trumps policies, and what percentage you ascribe to state and local governments and why?. Also, please explain the wide variance in deaths and cases per million between states and regions given Trumps policies apply to the entire country?

    1DaveMac (4cc9b4)

  149. @152

    Oh, well that’s actually even better! My apologies.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  150. Dana… you seem to be quite a liberal fellow, and I’d been genuinely interested in hearing what you would have done about the pandemic had you been president. I promise to be respectful… not a setup for a gotcha response.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/22/2020 @ 3:00 pm

    I would never describe myself as a liberal, given that I am small-government, fiscally conservative, and socially moderate (with the exception of abortion, which I am against). With that, at the very least – and the very least of what Trump could have exampled for Americans but chose not to – consistently follow health/safety protocols: stay home when possible, wear a mask when out, social distance, and wash your hands. At the very least, following taking these measures would have significantly lessened the risk of infection, and thus decreased the number of COVID cases.

    Since you asked: If I were the President, from the get-go I would have masked-up, made sure Americans saw me wearing a mask whenever around other people (and my administration and anyone in the White House), and encourage all Americans to do likewise. I would have set the example. I would have then, from the get-go, tried to unite Americans by reminding them that the virus is not political – it attacks both Republicans and Democrats – therefore, all Americans, regardless of political persuasion needed to come together and follow the basic protocols that they have control over, while scientists work toward a vaccine/effective therapeutics. I would have constantly reminded the American people that we all face a common enemy, and therefore we needed to work together to beat it. Oh, and I would have moved heaven and earth to provide all of the necessary PPE to frontline health care workers and essential workers. For starters.

    Dana (292df6)

  151. Oh, well that’s actually even better! My apologies.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/22/2020 @ 3:13 pm

    Why is that “actually even better”?

    Dana (292df6)

  152. Dana has my vote!

    Dave (1bb933)

  153. @156

    Well, I’d say we have a lot in common! I also hate abortion and view at its roots as genocide of the black community thanks to Margaret Sanger.

    Also for small government, fiscally conservative, socially moderate (especially with regard to all this gender/race identification and forcing sex changes on minors).

    I think your plan as “president” sounds very good… can’t find fault with it.

    I do think you’re a bit too hard on Trump in terms of “setting an example” but I get it.
    I also recall several times Trump saying exactly that the virus doesn’t choose by race or political party, and I don’t find his statement of “it is what it is” as insensitive… its precisely correct, in that the virus has a natural path to take that we can only hope to mitigate, but not stop or cure (at this time)

    Thanks for your answer.

    PS… sorry I thought you were a guy.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  154. Dave,

    I’ll be looking for a running mate. My people will contact your people.

    Dana (292df6)

  155. Can anything be better than homegrown Brandywine tomatoes, Genovese Basil, California olive oil and local Mozzarella.
    Gotta go dig potatoes.

    mg (8cbc69)

  156. @ 156

    All of my doctors are women. I chose them over male doctors because I think they worked harder and are more knowledgeable and competent. Also they come across as more caring and are gentler.

    Generally, I have found women are qualified in their professions and are more capable than men. I think its because they have a wider human view.

    Maybe its just my bias, buts that’s my experience, and I’m 70 yrs old.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  157. I do think you’re a bit too hard on Trump in terms of “setting an example” but I get it.

    Trump is the most powerful man on earth. He willingly took on the job. The gravitas of the position, and the sheer breadth and scope of responsibility he has toward the American people should not be minimized. He works for us. When he screws up, you bet I’m going to say so. Just as I have done with previous presidents, and suspect I will do with every president to come. That is my responsibility as an American. And the ballot box is the ultimate judgment I can render.

    Also, you still haven’t said why it’s actually even better that I am a woman and not a liberal?

    Dana (292df6)

  158. Ah, just your comment at 161.

    Dana (292df6)

  159. Generally, I have found women are qualified in their professions and are more capable than men. I think its because they have a wider human view.

    That’s an interesting observation. Of course, it’s not an absolute regarding men and women and their capabilities, but I wonder if your point has some merit because women have had to work much harder than men to achieve the same goals and level of success? While obviously this has changed for the better, the problem still exists within certain professions. IOW, because women have to work harder to reach the same goals as men, they take far less for granted, even the people they treat. This is no way is meant to diminish male doctors because I have an incredible male orthopedic surgeon, but just speaking in broad terms here…

    Dana (292df6)

  160. You’ve got three days left to talk Trump into it.

    Why three– Pence cam drop out/resign and crave more family time– any time he chooses.

    Or he can be Eagleton-ed out by our Captain on the bridge.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  161. Your usage of this old trope reveals much about you..

    See #120, Dana. Haley’s my gal.

    But yes– a reveal of sorts- I borrowed ‘bossy pants’ from someone I admire for he talent, humor–and spot on impersonation of Sarah Palin: – Tina Fey.

    ‘ ‘Bossypants’ is an autobiographical comedy book written by the American comedian Tina Fey.’- source- wikihahaha

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  162. “That’s an interesting observation. Of course, it’s not an absolute regarding men and women and their capabilities, but I wonder if your point has some merit because women have had to work much harder than men to achieve the same goals and level of success?”

    Yes, you nailed it. That’s my experience over the long term, and its reflected in their work product.
    Current example, you seem to largely run this place (web site).

    Case closed.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  163. Because throwing the sitting vice-president and putative head of your coronavirus response off the ticket at the eleventh hour wouldn’t telegraph weakness and desperation.

    No sir. Not at all.

    Dave (1bb933)

  164. Face it, the times they are a changing.

    Not as much as CNN would want to persuade you to believe- particular in states whe he Electoral College count matters.

    The US is 13% black and 76% white. So any number will be skewed by the fact that there are far more white people than black people, (Put it this way: If 100 people representing the racial make-up of the US stood in a circle, and a black man shot into the crowd at random, hes more likely to hit a white person, since 76 of the people there are white.) – source, quora.com

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  165. Simple poll– which would you prefer:

    [ ] President Harris.

    or

    [ ] President Haley.

    Choose.

    I prefer Haley.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  166. Despite what will folks and apparently some trash talker said to woolf, haley is not like harris,

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  167. Sen. McSally urges supporters to donate to her campaign instead of buying a meal
    Down in the polls and behind in fundraising, Arizona Sen. Martha McSally is telling her supporters to “fast a meal” and donate the money to her campaign instead.

    The Republican senator made the request at a recent event in northern Arizona, where she told the audience that she needs more money to keep pace with her Democratic opponent, Mark Kelly.

    “We’re doing our part to catch up, you know, to get our message out. But it takes resources. So, anybody can give, I’m not ashamed to ask, to invest. If you can give a dollar, five dollars, if you can fast a meal and give what that would be,” McSally told her audience on an audio recording obtained by Arizona’s Family.
    …….

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  168. You won’t get it done by telling us about it here. http://en.kremlin.ru/contacts

    nk (1d9030)

  169. @170 The stat you are using for “white” isn’t entirely what you make it out to be, though. Only 60% of American’s are white AND non-Latino. The other 16% in there are Latino, who mostly vote Dem.

    Nic (896fdf)

  170. Kelly’s got this won. Former space shuttle astronaut, Gulf War vet, wife an assassination survivor. Have a friend who knows him personally; he’s a good egg.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  171. @175. Then Plagiarist JoeyBee has nothing to worry about.

    Does he.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  172. Kelly’s got this won. Former space shuttle astronaut, Gulf War vet, wife an assassination survivor. Have a friend who knows him personally; he’s a good egg.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/22/2020 @ 4:39 pm

    Don’t agree with him on everything but it’s hard to argue he’s not a well accomplished American. We need more people who had a full career only tangential to politics, saw success and failure and hard work, then go into politics with the experiences they have. Maybe not a lifetime of showbiz and bankrupt casinos though.

    Did you see Melania is a speaker at the GOP convention? Didn’t she get caught plagiarizing a Michelle speech? You might want to skip.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  173. @177 Listen, it isn’t my fault you are using a misleading stat. I just happened to notice it didn’t look right.

    Nic (896fdf)

  174. If you can make a case for voting for Plagiarist Joe Biden other than he is not Donald Trump….

    … make it.

    So far, really haven’t heard a convincing pitch.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  175. Deezy-eska loves him some plagiarist tail.

    Dave (1bb933)

  176. @180 I don’t believe that any reason would be good enough in your opinion, because your goal is to burn things down. However, I gave you some of my reasons 2 days ago.

    Nic (896fdf)

  177. … make it

    It will neuter the modern intellectual property rights movement.

    Dave (1bb933)

  178. An early look at the 2020 electorate
    While demographic changes unfold slowly, it’s already clear that the 2020 electorate will be unique in several ways. Nonwhites will account for a third of eligible voters – their largest share ever – driven by long-term increases among certain groups, especially Hispanics. At the same time, one-in-ten eligible voters will be members of Generation Z, the Americans who will be between the ages 18 and 23 next year. That will occur as Millennials and all other older generations account for a smaller share of eligible voters than they did in 2016.
    ……..
    We project that the 2020 election will mark the first time that Hispanics will be the largest racial or ethnic minority group in the electorate, accounting for just over 13% of eligible voters – slightly more than blacks. This change reflects the gradual but continuous growth in the Hispanic share of eligible voters, up from 9% in the 2008 presidential election and 7% in the 2000 election. The black eligible voter population has grown about as fast as the electorate overall, meaning their share has held constant at about 12% since 2000.
    ……….
    Taken together, this strong growth among minority populations means that a third of eligible voters will be nonwhite in 2020, up from about a quarter in 2000. This increase is at least partially linked to immigration and naturalization patterns: One-in-ten eligible voters in the 2020 election will have been born outside the U.S., the highest share since at least 1970.
    ………
    Baby Boomers and older generations, who will be ages 56 and older next year, are expected to account for fewer than four-in-ten eligible voters in 2020. This is a significant change from 2000, when nearly seven-in-ten eligible voters (68%) were Boomers, Silents or members of the Greatest Generation (collectively, those ages 36 and older at the time).
    ………
    My emphasis.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  179. @178. Yes and she was rightly called out for it, too–but then would rather see Melania on my TeeVee screen in HDTV than Kamala, Hillary and the rest of the assorted Fire Plugeettes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  180. Dana

    If I were the President, from the get-go I would have masked-up, made sure Americans saw me wearing a mask whenever around other people (and my administration and anyone in the White House), and encourage all Americans to do likewise. I would have set the example. I would have then, from the get-go, tried to unite Americans by reminding them that the virus is not political – it attacks both Republicans and Democrats – therefore, all Americans, regardless of political persuasion needed to come together and follow the basic protocols that they have control over, while scientists work toward a vaccine/effective therapeutics. I would have constantly reminded the American people that we all face a common enemy, and therefore we needed to work together to beat it. Oh, and I would have moved heaven and earth to provide all of the necessary PPE to frontline health care workers and essential workers. For starters.

    You missed a few key things.
    -Start testing everyone that came over from China from Jan on, over 40,000 ppl.
    -Begin contact tracing in Feb.
    -Align on common strategies & rules for social distancing and commit to them….

    just to name a few things that were in the previous pandemic play book.

    Time123 (69b2fc)

  181. @184. Young people don’t vote; old people do.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  182. If you can make a case for voting for Plagiarist Joe Biden other than he is not Donald Trump….

    There is no case for Biden other than he represents a rejection of Trump’s performance/corruption and the racist aspect of his populist movement. Almost everyone I know choosing Biden is doing so despite Biden.

    But I am trying to imagine how bad Trump gets when he’s in his second term, if there’s a real war, or some other crisis adds to the plate.

    Voting Biden is like taking a Greyhound bus to avoid carpooling with a drunk.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  183. @178. Yes and she was rightly called out for it, too–but then would rather see Melania on my TeeVee screen in HDTV than Kamala, Hillary and the rest of the assorted Fire Plugeettes.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/22/2020 @ 4:50 pm

    OK I grant Melania is prettier than Hillary, but she is not prettier than Kamala. I actually am somewhat amazed she had a career as a model, but I think it wasn’t focused on her face. This is a mean thing to say and I hate criticizing family, but the way her face is stretched back and stiff is somewhat alien. I actually think Heidi Cruz is the better looking of the two and Ted Cruz should have had the spine to go with that.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  184. @192. My ‘goal’ is to neuter the modern ideological conservative movement. Eith guy is a win/win on that. But why Joe over Donald has yet to be convincingly pitched other than he is not Trump. I’m not Reagan didn’t workfor Mondale; I’m not Trump won’t work for Biden. Hell, I’m not FDR didn’t work for Wilkie!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  185. @178. Yes and she was rightly called out for it, too–but then would rather see Melania on my TeeVee screen in HDTV than Kamala, Hillary and the rest of the assorted Fire Plugeettes.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/22/2020 @ 4:50 pm

    Melania can’t just walk away from plagiarism. Plagiarism is the little death that brings total obliteration. The GOP convention is stained for the next one million years for this bitter and incomparable sin.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  186. @188

    Can you give 3 specific examples of bad Trump performance — in order of national importance — without adjectives/adverbs that are fact and not opinion based? Hopefully, you can back them with factual citations.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  187. Time123,

    Of course you’re right. I went with what I feel are the easiest things that could be done by every American to protect themselves and their neighbors. Also, consider how much the infection rate could have been mitigated had the feds provided the necessary PPE to frontline healthcare workers.

    Dana (292df6)

  188. I’m not Trump won’t work for Biden.

    I agree this is a terrible strategy and harkens of a terrible presidency (or as you might say, a neutered one conservatives can fear a little less).

    We will see if it works. Obviously “I’m not ____” is good enough for some values of “____”. This is the Greyhound Lines entire business model.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  189. Can you give 3 specific examples of bad Trump performance — in order of national importance — without adjectives/adverbs that are fact and not opinion based? Hopefully, you can back them with factual citations.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/22/2020 @ 5:01 pm

    I can give 250,000 of them.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  190. Hothouse flowers. How long will the hothouse stand?

    nk (1d9030)

  191. but she is not prettier than Kamala.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Behold her:

    Photos of first lady Melania Trump’s fashions, scandals in …

    http://www.businessinsider.com/melania-trump-first-lady...

    33 photos show how Melania Trump has evolved as first lady. Ellen Cranley. 2019-07-19T18:02:37Z The letter F. An envelope. It indicates the ability to send an email.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  192. 195

    No, I only want three, well spoken, well documented and w/o hyperbole or anger.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  193. @191. Melania can’t just walk away from plagiarism. Plagiarism is the little death that brings total obliteration. The GOP convention is stained for the next one million years for this bitter and incomparable sin.

    Yeah. Golly. Guess she can’t run for president for that reason, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  194. Plagiarist is a step up for a Trump. And Melania, for being a gold digger, and possibly Trump’s FSB handler, has turned out to be one step up from the rest of that sick family as First Lady.

    nk (1d9030)

  195. I’m sure Melania is getting paid very well for gig.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  196. @192. Well, there is only one yuggggggggggge one:

    HELSINKI.

    Wholly unforgivable.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  197. @202

    Isn’t Helsinki where the hookers pee on hotel beds?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  198. Yeah. Golly. Guess she can’t run for president for that reason, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/22/2020 @ 5:05 pm

    Golly! Perhaps you missed the part where we’re talking about plagiarism? This is no laughing matter. You can praise her looks all day, plagiarism is ugly.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  199. In secretly recorded audio, President Trump’s sister says he has ‘no principles’ and ‘you can’t trust him
    ………
    In the weeks since Mary Trump’s tell-all book about her uncle has been released, she’s been questioned about the source of some of the information, such as her allegation that Trump paid a friend to take his SATs to enable him to transfer into the University of Pennsylvania. Nowhere in the book does she say that she recorded conversations with her aunt.

    In response to a question from The Washington Post about how she knew President Trump paid someone to take the SATs, Mary Trump revealed that she had surreptitiously taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry in 2018 and 2019. She provided The Post with previously unreleased transcripts and audio excerpts, which include exchanges that are not in her book.
    …….
    The transcripts reveal the depths of discord between the president and his sister, illuminating a rift that began when she asked her brother for a favor in the 1980s, which Trump has frequently used to try to take credit for her success.

    At one point Barry said to her niece, “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”
    ……..
    Barry told how she tried to help her brother get into college. “He was a brat,” Barry said, explaining that “I did his homework for him” and “I drove him around New York City to try to get him into college.”

    “No way!” Mary responded. “He had somebody take his entrance exams?”
    “SATs or whatever. . . . That’s what I believe,” Barry said. “I even remember the name.” That person was Joe Shapiro, Barry said.

    Then Barry dropped what Mary considered a bombshell: “He went to Fordham for one year [actually two years] and then he got into University of Pennsylvania because he had somebody take the exams.”
    …….
    Trump has said he got into what was then called the Wharton School of Finance at Penn — which he called one of “the hardest schools to get in to” — because he is a “super genius.” The Post reported last year, however, that Mary’s father, Fred Jr., was close friends with a Penn admissions official. That official, James Nolan, told The Post that Fred Jr. asked him to interview Trump for admission, which he did. Trump was granted a place at the school, which Nolan said was “not very difficult” because more than half of applicants at the time were accepted, compared to last year’s 7.4 percent rate.
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  200. 204

    You can’t even answer my question, and now you’re an expert on plagiarism.
    This is no laughing matter.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  201. @198 (not in order of importance, necessarily, and examples of the general categories of things I am disturbed about.)

    1. Trump has endangered Americans lives by failing to coordinate a response to the covid epidemic and promoting unproven and insufficiently studied “cures”. A specific example of the lack of coordination is that he told the states to figure out the PPE situation themselves and when they did, he had the feds confiscate their PPE.

    2. He has repeatedly attempted to violate the constitution, sometimes in overriding the specific duties of congress. A specific example of this is when congress specifically would not fund the border wall with Mexico to his preferences and he attempted to acquire funds from military funding.

    3. He has supported Russia above our interests. A specific example of this is when he did not address the bounties Russia put on our men in Afghanistan.

    Nic (896fdf)

  202. “No way!” Mary responded. “He had somebody take his entrance exams?”
    “SATs or whatever. . . . That’s what I believe,” Barry said. “I even remember the name.” That person was Joe Shapiro, Barry said.

    But the SAT has essay questions. That would mean Donald Trump’s plagiarism is a corroborated accusation. And I thought this election would be about America having the worst performance of any developed country, Trump’s failure killing a quarter million of our people.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  203. Eyefull, have you been here before as PTw (or some such variant)? No matter, either way, it’s not that people cannot answer your question, it’s that they cannot be bothered to answer your question.

    Personally, Trump has always made my skin crawl, like something that oozed out of a sewer, and I want him flushed back down. Asking what specifically an orange pile of sewer sludge has done wrong misses the point as far as I’m concerned.

    nk (1d9030)

  204. I actually am somewhat amazed she had a career as a model, but I think it wasn’t focused on her face.

    I find her face pretty in earlier pictures – the ones with Bill and Hillary at her wedding, for example.

    Now, though, it looks like she puts her makeup on with a trowel…

    People have praised Melania for being dignified as First Lady, and of course that’s pretty easy considering who she’s seen with for comparison constantly. But has she been doing the outreach and comforting type stuff that’s traditional for her role?

    Her BeBest initiative is a bad joke, thanks to her husband. Despite tens of thousands of Americans being hospitalized in dire circumstances in recent months, I haven’t seen her reported as visiting hospitals to comfort the sick or thank overworked doctors and nurses. Googling “Melania Trump hospital visit” turns up *zero* hits in 2020… Barbara Bush hugging an AIDS patient she is not.

    While she may not be hateful and toxic like her husband, there’s little evidence of any greater interest in others (other than her son, of course).

    Dave (1bb933)

  205. 1. Trump has endangered Americans lives by failing to coordinate a response to the covid epidemic and promoting unproven and insufficiently studied “cures”. A specific example of the lack of coordination is that he told the states to figure out the PPE situation themselves and when they did, he had the feds confiscate their PPE.

    2. He has repeatedly attempted to violate the constitution, sometimes in overriding the specific duties of congress. A specific example of this is when congress specifically would not fund the border wall with Mexico to his preferences and he attempted to acquire funds from military funding.

    3. He has supported Russia above our interests. A specific example of this is when he did not address the bounties Russia put on our men in Afghanistan.

    Nic (896fdf) — 8/22/2020 @ 5:25 pm

    When Trump fans play grand inquisitor, I don’t there’s any point in playing along. They want to set themselves up as the objective and fair party, which is inherently dishonest. Time123 did this too and it bothers me more than direct trolling. Don’t pretend you’re better than the rest of us. If you have an axe to grind, grind it.

    Your points are great. And we have even more powerful proof of Trump’s collusion than we did before. And he’s praised Ghislaine after her arrest for helping rape kids.

    There are fair arguments to be made for and against Biden, but this notion we have to prove Trump’s ever done a thing wrong is like asking me to prove the Muslim Ban is bigoted.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  206. “What are his misdeeds?” sang the Forest Goblin.

    “He has murdered, betrayed; he has wrecked ships; he has tortured, blackmailed, robbed, sold children into slavery; he has—”

    The Forest Goblin stopped him. “Your religious differences are of no importance. Your own plagiarism, however, is self-evident.” — See, The Moon Moth, by Jack Vance

    nk (1d9030)

  207. @211 Trump has done so many terrible things that they tend to wash eachother out of the news cycle before we really have a chance to process them, just leaving a miasma of feelings that things are terrible, instead of focused anger. Sometimes I find it effective for my own process to try to pin down some of the miasma. 😛

    Nic (896fdf)

  208. Nic… Nice try but these are mostly opinions (to which you are of course entitled).

    For instance, hydroxychloroquine is being used by many doctors throughout the world in their opinions successfully to treat Covid. This is NOT however, covered on MSM.

    The border wall is being funded legally, I believe, the Supreme Court having declined to declare this improper.

    I don’t think we can know whether Trump has “addressed” the bounty situation. It may well have been in behind the scenes action. But I don’t think this single issue is evidence he puts Russia above the interests of the USA! It was the Democrats that cooked up the whole Russiagate thing, so perhaps you’re conflating lies and misdirection from the Dems with reality.

    At any rate, I don’t think your examples are proof of poor performance in important national issues.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  209. I like a First Lady who is content to just look pretty and dignified better than one who fake-signs school lunch bills into law, Mr. Dave.

    nk (1d9030)

  210. And what is it with them and alcoholism, from Martha Washington to Betty Ford? Can’t they just be content to nag their husbands about it?

    nk (1d9030)

  211. @210-
    But she found time to redesign the Rose Garden while the country suffers the worst unemployment since the Great Depression and is ravaged by a pandemic. If nothing says “let them eat cake” nothing does.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  212. @211 Trump has done so many terrible things that they tend to wash eachother out of the news cycle before we really have a chance to process them, just leaving a miasma of feelings that things are terrible, instead of focused anger. Sometimes I find it effective for my own process to try to pin down some of the miasma. 😛

    Nic (896fdf) — 8/22/2020 @ 5:36 pm

    Good point.

    I like a First Lady who is content to just look pretty and dignified better than one who fake-signs school lunch bills into law, Mr. Dave.

    nk (1d9030) — 8/22/2020 @ 5:38 pm

    I think you’re right and I shouldn’t have remarked on what she looks like. I was just making a dumb plagiarism joke. Mrs Trump wears nice dresses and does stuff I don’t pay attention to. It’s not as bad as assuming you have power over society because you’re married to the leader. That’s some weird monarchy stuff.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  213. nk!!!

    Dana (292df6)

  214. Shovel ready infrastructure project in the healthy outdoors. Nothing wrong with that. Better than going from hospital to hospital, carrying diseases from one to another, like some Typhoid Mary.

    nk (1d9030)

  215. “I like a First Lady who is content to just look pretty…”

    Good move

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  216. @214 Ah, bad faith.

    You asked for 3 fact based, non-hyperbolic, specific examples of bad performances by Trump. I gave them to you.

    Nic (896fdf)

  217. We need more people who had a full career only tangential to politics, saw success and failure and hard work, then go into politics with the experiences they have.

    Sure, but why go after an incumbant who is at least as accomplished? There are plenty of tools to run against.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  218. Dustin is mocking Deezy-eska’s mad obsession with plagiarism, and doing so very effectively, I might add, by throwing back some of the unhinged lunacy Deezy-eska repeats like a broken record.

    Can you give 3 specific examples of bad Trump performance — in order of national importance — without adjectives/adverbs that are fact and not opinion based? Hopefully, you can back them with factual citations.

    1. Covid-19; documented above, although Trump’s screw-ups started at the end of January by trying to downplay, and then gaslight, the virus.

    2. Trump is an evil piece of gutter filth who lies ceaselessly, brags about sexually assaulting women, fantasizes about dating his daughter, boasts about using his position as beauty pageant producer to peep at naked young girls, and raped at least one of his wives. He is a horrible example to young people, a disgrace to America and to the Republican Party, and unworthy of leading the greatest nation in the world.

    3. Trump is ignorant, incapable of accepting criticism, uninterested in learning anything that doesn’t conform to his existing beliefs, emotionally unstable and narcissistic to the point of solipsism. He has no respect for the Constitution, which he is completely unfamiliar with, nor for the rule of law which he routinely treats with contempt. He considers himself an expert on every subject, but unacquainted with the most basic facts of history and science. He is lazy, incompetent and breathtakingly unfit for the office he holds.

    Dave (1bb933)

  219. The best case is to attempt to direct herd immunity without destroying society.

    We’re not going to achieve herd immunity without a vaccine so, in the interim, we socially distance, we wear masks when we can’t socially distance, and we keep our hands clean. Another thing we can do is take serious the scientific recommendations for the four phases.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  220. 223

    ” I only want three, well spoken, well documented and w/o hyperbole or anger.”

    Tut tut… I asked they be backed up with facts as well. Didn’t ask for opinions. No bad faith.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  221. Trump may be a crook, but at least we have a press willing to say “Trump is a crook.” With President Harris, all they will be able say is “President Harris’s historic Presidency makes more history!”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  222. 226

    Sweden considers their country close to herd immunity now. I’ll check for a link

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  223. but mr dave thats just nitpicking isnt it

    Dave (1bb933)

  224. Trump’s problem with Covid is not that he’s done so many things to make it worse, but that he’s done so few things to make it any better. The even worse problem is that his opponents haven’t done so either.

    Waiting for a vaccine isn’t a strategy, it’s can-kicking. We still don’t have any testing that is worth the name, given the 10 day delay for results. It does nothing useful in containing the spread. It does nothing useful in treating patients. It does nothing useful in informing people about the disease. Only bureaucrats who keep statistics are helped by these retrospective tests, along with the people who are paid to carry out this testing fraud.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  225. Melania likely revamped the rose garden simply because she will be giving her convention speech from the site. And while it was privately funded and thus can’t complain about wasting taxpayers’ money, I hate that lovely trees and beautiful specimens were removed for this vanity project..

    Dana (292df6)

  226. LOL that “herd immunity” article is from mid-April, before 90% of Sweden’s cases…

    Dave (1bb933)

  227. We all remember Dr Fauci predicting deaths in the US in the range of 2 Million people back in March.

    It was an estimate originally made by the Imperial College under the scenario that no mitigation steps are taken. When people changed their behavior, so did the forecasts.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  228. 235

    Second article Aug 9

    You have an itchy trigger finger

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  229. Trump set to block controversial Alaska gold mine
    The Trump administration is planning to block the proposed Pebble Mine in Alaska early next week, six people familiar with the plans told POLITICO, marking a surprise reversal that could be the death knell for the massive copper and gold project.

    Environmentalists and conservation groups have warned that the project would threaten world’s largest sockeye salmon fishery, and the move to block it comes after President Donald Trump faced pressure to nix it from an array of interests, including GOP mega-donor Andy Sabin, Bass Pro Shops CEO Johnny Morris and the his eldest son, Donald Trump, Jr.
    ……….
    The Army Corps of Engineers office in Alaska is planning to hold a conference call on Monday with groups connected to the proposed mine discuss the decision, three people with knowledge of the call told POLITICO. An administration official confirmed the call with POLITICO.

    Corps officials will say outstanding technical issues with a key permit remain, the people said, adding they anticipate Trump will then follow with a public statement opposing the project. The people said they’re not entirely sure what form Trump’s disavowal will take, although they said it is more likely to come as a rejection of the Army Corps of Pebble’s water permits rather than a veto from EPA, which earlier this year indicated it would not exercise that power.
    ……….
    [O]utdoors recreation groups’ concerns (are) that it threatens the Bristol Bay salmon fishery, which is commercially important and an increasingly popular destination for adventurous anglers.

    Joining the hook-and-bullet crowd’s influence campaign was Fox News host Tucker Carlson, one of the president’s favorite TV personalities who elevated the matter in an Aug. 14 segment called “The Case Against Alaska’s Pebble Mine.” …….
    ……….
    Even a broken clock is right twice a day

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  230. Wasn’t Trump impeached for something or other?

    nk (1d9030)

  231. “When people changed their behavior, so did the forecasts.”

    Imagine that.

    So now the newer forecast cited is 88% better (by election day)

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  232. @233-
    So much for shared sacrifice. Image over reality.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  233. @226 Is there a nationally coordinated Covid 19 response? No.
    Did Congress designate the funding for the wall? No.
    Is a bounty on US Soldiers in US interests? No. Has Trump addressed it? No.

    Nic (896fdf)

  234. Did Trump sell out the Kurds? Yes.
    Did he try to bribe Ukraine with taxpayer money to give him dirt against Biden and was impeached for it? Yes.
    Does he, his family, and his in-laws have business interests in China? Yes.

    nk (1d9030)

  235. impeach Melania for taking it back to what First Lady Kennedy had done

    mg (8cbc69)

  236. The article I linked notes that 40-50% of Sweden’s cases were in the elderly nursing home population. So “protecting the most vulnerable” is another myth.

    Dave (1bb933)

  237. @204. Ugly? Did you see HRC?

    She can’t run for president. Boo-hoo.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  238. @224. Poor Davey. He just doesn’t get it; Melania ain’t a natural born citizen.

    She can’t run.

    But she can walk up them stairs boarding AF1 24/7, 365. Yum!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  239. So much for shared sacrifice.

    Like that time when Ivanka posted on Instagram urging people to stay home (“Please do your part. We are all in this together”) immediately before violating the guidelines she was urging other people to follow, and traveling to her father’s golf club for Passover.

    Dave (1bb933)

  240. Oh my.

    CNN Breaking news- Trump’s old sister thinks her brother is an ‘unprincipled sh!t.’ Wolf and crew in a frothy panic like they’d found a doody in the pool!

    Meanwhile— Biden whiles away the hours getting restrawed in Wilmington.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  241. Don’t stare at what you can’t afford Deezy-eska.

    Dave (1bb933)

  242. But she can walk up them stairs boarding AF1 24/7, 365. Yum!

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:36 pm

    Kim Kardashian has her beat six ways from Sunday in that area, and I mean area. Kanye is the one you should be rooting for.

    nk (1d9030)

  243. Anecdote. One of my most vivid memories of working in Manhattan in the 1980s was getting on an uptown F train at 33rd heading up to Rock Center, looking down the car and seeing everybody reading the NY Post or the Daily News with Trump, Ivana and Marla on the front pages. It was just hilarious. The exercise video of the Georgia Peach bountifully bouncing on a treadmill had just been leaked and on all the local news channels for days. was watercooler chatter for weeks along w/t the ‘best sex I’ve ever had’ quote- still echoing around town. The Trump NYers knew then is the Trump America knows now. Ahhhhh yes…fond memories from the go-go-anything-goes-gawdy-glittery-gilded-excesses of Reagan’s 1980s.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  244. Nothing very surprising, except it’s coming from his sister, a former federal judge…

    Maryanne said on another occasion that Donald Trump kept asking about Fox News. One day, Barry said, President Trump called her and said, “Did you watch Fox News?”

    “No,” Barry said she told the president.

    “Why not?” President Trump said.

    “I don’t watch much television at all,” Barry said she responded.

    “What do you do?” the president asked.

    “I read,” Barry replied.

    “What do you read?” the president said.

    “Books,” Barry said.

    The president was incredulous. “You don’t watch Fox?”

    Dave (1bb933)

  245. So Dana and Paul, I am curious to know, given our federal system, what percentage of fatalities you ascribe to Trumps policies, and what percentage you ascribe to state and local governments and why?

    There are no exact percentages, but Trump gets a significant amount of blame–more blame than anyone else because he’s the president and has Article II powers, as he has told you–followed by Cuomo and deBlasio. There’s already plenty of information and evidence to suggest that Trump is responsible for tens of thousands of American deaths. Yes, Xi and the Chinese Communist Party are responsible for bringing it here but, after that, the question is how the countries have dealt with it, and we’ve been failing badly.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  246. @251. Kimmy has her own show, nk.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  247. The niece secretly recorded her aunt about intimate family matters and then published them? The rot does not afflict just one branch of the tree, I guess. She, the niece, won’t need 23andMe to prove she’s a Trump.

    nk (1d9030)

  248. @233. Vanities:

    whitehousemuseum.org/floor0/bowling-alley.htm

    In 1969, President and Mrs. Nixon, both avid bowlers, had a new one-lane alley built (paid for by friends) in an underground workspace area below the driveway leading to the North Portico.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  249. Kanye is the one you should be rooting for.

    Has he ever done a cover version of Spinal Tap’s “Big Bottom”?

    Dave (1bb933)

  250. Can anything be better than homegrown Brandywine tomatoes, Genovese Basil, California olive oil and local Mozzarella.

    We went to this place and discovered marinated labneh, heirloom tomatoes on rustic sourdough. Amazing. What added to the experience was feeding the goats and pigs with cucumbers that were past the expiration date.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  251. Heh. My neighbors’ family has a big ranch in Walla Walla, and when they visit, they bring back Walla Walla onions and they are just the sweetest onions ever.

    Dana (292df6)

  252. The tenant’s right to the use and enjoyment of the tenanted real estate is exclusive even of the landlord, although the tenant can be required to restore the property to its original condition, normal wear and tear excepted.

    nk (1d9030)

  253. 217… even the folks at the WaPo – your bible, Rip Taylor – said the redesign was long overdue.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  254. Has he ever done a cover version of Spinal Tap’s “Big Bottom”?

    I don’t know, but David Gates of “Bread” has a cattle ranch in Mt. Vernon, Washington.

    nk (1d9030)

  255. The niece secretly recorded her aunt about intimate family matters and then published them?

    But, you see, it was all done for a good cause (money) during a legal dispute over Big Fred’s estate:

    Chris Bastardi, a spokesman for Mary Trump, said that she began taping conversations in 2018 with Barry after concluding that her relatives had lied about the value of the family estate two decades earlier during a legal battle over her inheritance, in which she received far less than she expected.

    Under New York law, it is legal to tape a conversation with the consent of one party, which in this case was Mary Trump.

    The inheritance dispute was settled privately in 2001, but Mary Trump has said she was duped into an agreement because the family said the estate was worth $30 million and she later believed the value was closer to $1 billion.

    Bastardi said she recorded the conversations with Barry to gain information that would show she had been misled by the family about the estate’s value. “She hoped to prove this, as is often done, by recording words contrary to their sworn statements. She never expected to learn much of what she heard,” Bastardi said.

    And her spokesman’s name is “Bastardi”.

    So it’s fine.

    Dave (1bb933)

  256. Yes, Walla Walla onions are awesome and delicious in slads an on a cheeseburger in paradise or anyplace else.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  257. A Trump-style Eww! moment. Moderate disgust warning!

    nk (1d9030)

  258. Putting Melania on the program is their attempt to appear sympathetic to illegal immigrants.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  259. When people changed their behavior, so did the forecasts…

    Sorta like the weather.

    “How in the hell do you know how many people will die?” – Chief Astronaut Ted Daugherty [David Janssen] ‘Marooned’ 1969

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  260. Sweden considers their country close to herd immunity now. I’ll check for a link

    Anyone who claims Sweden is claiming herd immunity is trafficking in lies and bullsh*t, Eyefull. The best estimates are that only around 7% have developed antibodies, well below the minimum 60% necessary to reach that threshhold.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  261. 210.

    While she may not be hateful and toxic like her husband, there’s little evidence of any greater interest in others (other than her son, of course).
    Dave (1bb933) — 8/22/2020 @ 5:30 pm

    When Melania objected to an arguably intrusive profile on her family, Trump’s nazi cultists barraged the author, Julia Ioffe, with antisemitic harrassment and threats. Melania victim-blamed Ioffe. Not a good look.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  262. Dustin, what are you saying I did?

    Time123 did this too and it bothers me more than direct trolling. Don’t pretend you’re better than the rest of us. If you have an axe to grind, grind it.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  263. 188.

    There is no case for Biden other than he represents a rejection of Trump’s performance/corruption and the racist aspect of his populist movement. […]
    Dustin (4237e0) — 8/22/2020 @ 4:53 pm

    As I’ve said before, I find Biden extraordinarily mediocre. But compared to Trump, he’s the Thomas Paine of enlightenment philosophy, the Patrick Henry of libertarian patriotism, the James Madison of constitutional republicanism, and the Abraham Lincoln of compassionate, poetic genius.

    I was tempted to add that he’s the Roseanne Roseannadanna of gaffes and malapropisms, but even there Trump eclipses him, and that’s before Trump proudly and ignorantly doubles and triples down.

    So I guess what I’m trying to say is, in the roundaboutist way possible, yes. You’re right.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  264. As I’ve said before, I find Biden extraordinarily mediocre. But compared to Trump, he’s the Thomas Paine of enlightenment philosophy, the Patrick Henry of libertarian patriotism, the James Madison of constitutional republicanism, and the Abraham Lincoln of compassionate, poetic genius.

    No. He’s not.

    Welcome to 1964.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  265. We all remember Dr Fauci predicting deaths in the US in the range of 2 Million people back in March.

    I predict 5 million traffic deaths in the US if everyone drives everywhere at 100MPH and never use their brakes.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  266. Anyone who claims Sweden is claiming herd immunity is trafficking in lies and bullsh*t, Eyefull.

    His links go to gatewaypundit. That should be a clue.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  267. Uh-oh, we’re back to 1964 again.

    A few hours ago it was 1968…

    Dave (1bb933)

  268. @277. Some people are seated near the engine; others are stuck by the caboose, Davey.

    ‘She’s got a ticket to ride; but she don’t care.’ ‘Ticket To Ride’ The Beatles [Lennon-McCartney] April, 1965

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  269. A crush on Melania is probably the best reason to vote for Trump. I approve.

    nk (1d9030)

  270. Back then it was neil kinnock who was mostly harmless, unless the stalinist twits foot and benn, the latter was so much a soviet stooge that the kgb was e.barassed. much like gary hart in 1984 in fact

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  271. As I’ve said before, I find Biden extraordinarily mediocre. But compared to Trump, he’s the Thomas Paine of enlightenment philosophy, the Patrick Henry of libertarian patriotism, the James Madison of constitutional republicanism, and the Abraham Lincoln of compassionate, poetic genius.

    I was tempted to add that he’s the Roseanne Roseannadanna of gaffes and malapropisms, but even there Trump eclipses him, and that’s before Trump proudly and ignorantly doubles and triples down.

    So I guess what I’m trying to say is, in the roundaboutist way possible, yes. You’re right.

    lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/22/2020 @ 7:52 pm

    The one thing about Trump’s election that pleases me is how insulting it must be to Hillary to lose to a guy like that. ture in the democratic party that lost to a caricature.

    Along the same lines, Trump losing to Biden, after we’ve been told time and again he is nearly brain dead and without accomplishment, is pleasing. One thing about this bland oatmeal of a basement campaign: it’s all about Trump.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  272. @ 282

    Get some popcorn and enjoy!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wtWEpgEZ20

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  273. One simple law that would save many lives is to make using a fax machine a felony.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  274. “The one thing about Trump’s election that pleases me is how insulting it must be to Hillary to lose to a guy like that. ture in the democratic party that lost to a caricature.”

    Not just Hillary, all the Republican primary candidates as well. This picture never fails to cheer me up: https://i.imgur.com/UERGbA0.jpg

    Davethulhu (0bbb0a)

  275. http://nypost.com/2020/08/22/joe-biden-faces-plagiarism-claim-over-dnc-acceptance-speech/

    A load of bull. He used a word that Reagan used. So what?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  276. Breaking news!

    President sets Sunday evening news conference on “major therapeutic breakthrough” for COVID-19

    This should be interesting.

    felipe (023cc9)

  277. Just one of multiple stories surfacing:

    ‘Joe Biden accused of plagiarizing Canadian politician in DNC speech’
    8-22-20 Washington Examiner

    Joe Biden is being accused of plagiarizing the words of a left-wing Canadian politician in his convention speech. In his highly anticipated convention speech on Thursday, the Democratic nominee said, “Love is more powerful than hate. Hope is more powerful than fear. And light is more powerful than dark.”

    Canadians were quick to point out that those words were extremely similar to the dying message of Jack Layton, the leader of Canada’s New Democratic Party, who in 2011 wrote, “My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.”

    CBC correspondent Alexander Panetta pointed out the similarities on Twitter.

    A number of Canadians are struck by the similar parting words of Biden’s speech to the final words of Jack Layton’s farewell letter before his death. pic.twitter.com/pvd80XtoHF
    — Alexander Panetta (@Alex_Panetta) August 21, 2020

    This was not Biden’s first brush with plagiarism. His 1988 presidential campaign ended after he was accused of lifting portions of a speech made by British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock. In an address to the Welsh Assembly, Kinnock asked, ”Why am I the first Kinnock in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Why is Glenys the first woman in her family in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Was it because all our predecessors were thick?”

    In a speech at the 1987 Iowa State Fair, Biden used extremely similar language.

    ”I started thinking as I was coming over here, why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university? Why is it that my wife who is sitting out there in the audience is the first in her family to ever go to college?” He continued, ”Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? Is it because I’m the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree that I was smarter than the rest?”

    At the 1987 California Democratic convention, Biden told the audience that ”each generation of Americans has been summoned.” The same phrase was used by John F. Kennedy in his 1961 inaugural address.

    Layton himself used similar language to former Canadian Prime Minister Wilfred Laurier, according to the National Post. During World War I, Laurier attempted to unify Canada by telling a crowd that “the solution of these problems you have a safe guide, an unfailing light, if you remember that faith is better than doubt and love is better than hate.” – source, washingtonexaminer.com

    The pattern remains; the tell of low character and no integrity.

    Idiot.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  278. @287. We’ve already been tipped off:

    ‘No miracle is coming.” – Joe Biden 8-20-20

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  279. 37. Time123 (ae9d89) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:07 am

    There’s no reason he can’t get into the details and ensure that the FDA is being exactly as aggressive and efficient as he wants them to be.

    Well, no, there is a reason. If he tried to override specific decisons, he’d be accused of exercising political interference in what should be impartial medical decisions, and maybe somebody might resign and blast him.

    But this is probably not like the Department of Justice, where any kind of presidential interference could be treated as a crime.

    So meanwhile we have this:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/blood-plasma-covid-19.html

    A surge in cases in Texas this summer quickly brought the hospital system to its enrollment cap, and doctors there have not been able to provide the experimental treatment since mid-July. If the F.D.A. gave an emergency authorization, doctors at the hospital could possibly begin administering it again, said Dr. Eric Salazar, the study’s principal investigator.

    But an emergency authorization could have the unintended effect of making it harder for rigorous clinical trials to definitively show whether plasma works. Scientists have struggled to recruit patients for randomized trials, as many patients and their doctors — knowing they could get the treatment under the Mayo program — have been unwilling to risk receiving a placebo.

    And of course, proving it useful beyond a reasonable doubt is more important than doing your best to save lives now.

    The only question about convalescent plasma is if it (or anything at all, to tell the truth) is really needed.

    Giving it to sick people who aren’t rapidly getting worse probably is of little use since they are making their own antibodies, and also because it may not be giving them the best antibodies.

    Now they are probably not doing this nonsense because of the election any more than the mail is being slowed down because of the election. (although the Democratic Party is certainly criticizing Trump for not slavishly following the dictates of experts, and they may eventually verge over into stopping the Vietnamese peace negotiations or preventing the release of the hostages territory)

    Hydroxychrloquine has been unfairly maligned. It’s somewhat useful at the first sign of illness, when combined with zinc and maybe an antibiotic, But it is not the answer.

    Neutralizing monoclonal antibodies are. And it’s going ahead, although there’s a question of whether a rollout can be delayed past the electon:

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/11/antibody-drugs-could-be-one-of-the-best-weapons-against-covid-19-but-will-they-matter

    Clinical trials involving a pair of antibodies developed by Regeneron Pharmaceuticals will read out early results in September. A separate effort from Eli Lilly could yield data later in the fall.

    Despite experts’ eagerness to see the data, however, there remains a debate over just how significant a role any antibody treatment might play in changing the course of the pandemic….Even though the development efforts have been proceeding extraordinarily fast by normal standards, the U.S. has spent billions of dollars purchasing vaccines in advance, but has done far less to shore up capacity for antibody drugs.

    “We may have missed a window to scale the manufacturing of antibody drugs that could have been an important bridge to a vaccine and a hedge in the event vaccines are delayed or don’t work,” Gottlieb, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and board member for Pfizer and other health care companies, told STAT. “These drugs had the ability to perhaps meaningfully change the contours of this epidemic, and we just won’t have enough doses to realize that goal.”

    That is not true, because you can still manufacture them faster and cheaper – and the antibodies can be used as a prophylactic and have virtually 100% effectiveness while a vaccine may have less, and the vaccines have to be given in advance of an infection while the antibodies can be given later.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  280. @286. Wrong.

    “There you go again…” – Ronald Reagan, 1980

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  281. Time123 @37:

    If he’s too busy to do it personally, or lacks the time to get up to speed he can delegate it to someone he trusts.

    Trump doesn’t know whom to appoint!!

    But the drug regulatory and peer review people can be incredibly stupid. (or pretend to be)

    Like they need something to prove that antibodies confer immunity. Which is nothing less than a fundamental assumption of the whole business. If they have doubts about that, they shouldn’t bother with developing vaccines.

    From the same page in Wednesday’s New York Times:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/health/coronavirus-fishing-boat.html

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  282. DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:20 pm

    Depending on what is said, Biden may have to eat those words.

    felipe (023cc9)

  283. Since he’s so into QAnon type conspiracy theories how come Allen West, the new Chairman of the Texas Repblican Party hasn’t taken a close look at the state flag of Texas??

    Well, he says the new slogan of “We Are the Storm” is not really derived from QAnon’s “decoding” of something Donald Trump said in 2017, which he it or perhaps, он, (except that QAnon is rather subtly harmful to Trump) has made into a rallying cry for people to show they belong. But instead is derived from Psalm 29. (I guess combined with the notion that “the voice of the people is the voice of God”)

    More particularly, they say it comes from DeFlategate quarterback Tom Brady,

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BdsVheMhm1G/?hl=en

    Who doesn’t say anything about the Bible.

    Somewhere else, the New York Times found a website that tries to give some exegesis to what Tom that does not, however, cite Psalm 29 as inspiration or whatever.

    https://www.austingentry.com/i-am-the-storm

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  284. 232. Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:06 pm

    We still don’t have any testing that is worth the name, given the 10 day delay for results.

    I think Bill Gates said this happened because national testing laboratories (there are quicker results from small local labs) were paid no matter how late the test results came back, so they accepted all the business that came their way, instead of declining it.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  285. @278 and @288 Rhetorical tricolon and rhetorical antithesis are two very common rhetorical devices to add strength and emphasis when speaking. A rhetorical tricolon uses 3 parallel phrases to build power and emphasis. Rhetorical Antithesis uses contrasting terminology (antonyms) to do the same.

    Biden’s tricolon, BTW, is stronger.

    Nic (896fdf)

  286. nk @243.

    Did Trump sell out the Kurds? Yes.

    He reversed himself, and the situation now seems to be stable, so all they lost was territory to Turkey (and casualties)

    Did he try to bribe Ukraine with taxpayer money to give him dirt against Biden and was impeached for it? Yes.

    No he didn’t. He withheld money for no reason, or because he bought into ussian propaaganda about how there people Zelensky was associated with who were against him. White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney and EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland thought they could get Trump to reverse his decision if Ukraine announced it was investigating Burisma but they did this without checking with Trump and even against Trump’s express claim that he did not want any quid pro quo. The withholding of aid was secret, and not legal because it was informal. When the aid block became public it was reversed very soon. Ukraine knew in July there was a problem but did not know the reason and didn’t want to make a fuss thnn.

    Does he, his family, and his in-laws have business interests in China? Yes.

    I think they (his in laws actually) have pulled back on this. And weren’t they selling a way to get people out of China? Trump is not exactly very friendly to the government of China now and his appointees have run with it.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  287. He reversed himself, and the situation now seems to be stable, so all they lost was territory to Turkey (and casualties)

    What did Vladimir Putin and Little Miss Muffett have in common?

    They both had Kurds in their way

    Trump 2020
    Promises Made Promises Delivered (not to us lol)

    Dustin (4237e0)

  288. most conventions give a bump in the polls to the hosting parties selection, lmao as Trump gets a bump from the democrat/never trump convention.

    mg (8cbc69)

  289. Biden and his shut it down statement may just get the rinos the house.

    mg (8cbc69)

  290. I hear that Sweden, with its don’t-shut-it-down policy, is no longer the darling of the left.

    norcal (a5428a)

  291. Heh! I was just thinking about that, norcal, and on my first cup of coffee, too. What else about Sweden do Trump supporters like? (Ok, the massages, but what else?)

    Donald/Greta 2020! Make America Swedish Again!

    nk (1d9030)

  292. On July 17th, Gov. Kristi Noem bragged to Fox News that she “…according to the national experts, did everything wrong” in response to the coronavirus. She supported the Sturgis Rally, State Fair and the Rushmore event with the President. Without requiring masks or social distancing.

    South Dakota’s virus numbers are rising fast. Duh.

    Naturally, Trump rewards her with a prime speaking spot at the Republican National Convention. Anyone know if Dr. Fauci will speak?

    noel (80a6d7)

  293. Biden’s tricolon, BTW, is stronger

    Weak tea, but you keep telling yourself that, Nic.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  294. 285… kicks just keep getting harder to find for Cthulhu.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  295. Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    <b? The deep state, or whoever, over at the FDA is making it very difficult for drug companies to get people in order to test the vaccines and therapeutics. Obviously, they are hoping to delay the answer until after November 3rd. Must focus on speed, and saving lives! @SteveFDA

    6:49 AM · Aug 22, 2020

    That tweet got results! (or that tweet combined with some other things

    President Trump is going to hold a press conference this afternoon with the head of the Food and Drug administration to announce some new developments with therapeutics. White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said on Fox News Sunday that whatever is being announced should have happened several weeks ago.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  296. Mark Meadies wouldn;t really answer any questions about Trump’s personal fauls (as dexcribed by his sister in part of a secretly recorded 15 hours of conversation with his noiece, Mary) except to say that Trumpis prepared or does read and that he has to read thins to know what Trump is reading (or talking about?) Something like that. He wouldn’t say anything to the point about Trump’s lying.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  297. Mark Measdes wanted to meet with nancy Pelosi bit she declined claiming she is too busy.

    He wasn’t asked directly about that but he indicated that Pelosi and Schumer were being dishonest. The question was about Trum[ threatening to veto a $25 billion apprpriaton to the Post Office. He said that bill was (ssomething like political gamesmanship)

    He said three weeks ago they offered $10 billion to the Post Office plus a promise from the Postmaster General that the need for overtime would not be an obstacle to the delivery of first class mail – I think for the next three months or so (and election mail, Meadows said, was first class mail – not always true but the Post Office said awhile ago it would treat all election mail that way)

    Nancy Pelosi said she didn’t want to do any piecemeal bills, like about unemployment insurance, saod Meadows, but now here she passed a piecemeal bill about the Post Office.

    He said the Senate would take up the ill and amend it to be a complete bill. (and presumbably try to take that to conference)

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  298. Mark Meadows said he had to google QAnon to fnd out what it was, and they shouldn’t be asking uestions about somethig that 81% of Republicans don;t know what it is.

    Fox News Sunday had showsn Trump answering a question about this idea of him leading a secret effort to stop a global network of Satan worshipping pedophiles and Trump had said: “Is that supposed to be a bad thing” (hat he was supposedly doing?

    THe New York Times described what Trump said as follows:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theories.html

    When told by a reporter about the central premise of the QAnon theory — a belief that Mr. Trump is saving the world from a satanic cult made up of pedophiles and cannibals connected to Democratic Party figures, so-called deep-state actors and Hollywood celebrities — Mr. Trump did not question the validity of the movement or the truth of those claims.

    Instead, he offered his help.

    “Is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing?” the president said lightly, responding to a reporter who asked if he could support that theory. “If I can help save the world from problems, I am willing to do it. I’m willing to put myself out there.”

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  299. Today’s Headlines:

    In Newly Released Recordings, President Trump’s Sister Says He ‘Has No Principles’

    She was also recorded as saying the sun rises in the East, and compasses point north.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  300. Second article Aug 9
    You have an itchy trigger finger

    My finger’s fine, Eyefull. By most accounts, you need at least 60% of the populace to be either immune or vaccinated, when the reality is that Sweden is only at around 15%. As for your link, some idiot spoke to a daily tabloid, remarking that a country contained the virus and made the illogical leap that the country achieved herd immunity. The fact is that they’re not even close. The reality is that Swedes heard their government’s counsel and took individual responsibility by practicing social distancing, thus containing it.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  301. More from the New York Times:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/us/politics/qanon-trump-republicans.html

    Asked during his Wednesday news conference about the QAnon belief that he is saving the world from a cult of pedophiles, Mr. Trump said he did not know much about the movement, before all but endorsing it: “Is that supposed to be a bad thing or good thing?” he said. “If I can help save the world from problems, I am willing to do it. I’m willing to put myself out there. And we are actually.”

    …The president, who in 2016 went on a radio show hosted by the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, went on to suggest that the problems QAnon backers wanted him to solve were urban crime and the recent civil rights protests in Portland, Ore., and elsewhere, which the White House has sought to falsely portray as the work of radical leftists intent on undermining the very foundations of American society.

    If only QAnon’s beliefs were that straightforward, benign or grounded in reality. The core tenet is that Mr. Trump, backed by the military, ran for office to save Americans from child-abusing devil-worshipers in the government and media. Backing the president’s enemies, the theory falsely claims, are prominent Democrats who extract hormones from children’s blood.

    I think some of this amounts to editorializing in a news article, even if it is good editorializing I mean “that benign”

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  302. My neighbors’ family has a big ranch in Walla Walla, and when they visit, they bring back Walla Walla onions and they are just the sweetest onions ever.

    Very cool, Dana. The Walla Walla wines are damn good, too. We hit four wineries on our little anniversary mini-vacation. BTW, we stayed at this farmhouse AirBnb on the Oregon side, and it was wonderful. What added to it was that our host has year-round stream flowing through the property along with goats, geese, turkeys, horses, cows, sheep, and more goats. Very entertaining.
    Funny thing. We couldn’t help but notice that the first town on the Oregon side, Milton-Freewater, was a ghost town, with an alarming number of places out of business, while the Walla Walla was looking pretty prosperous, despite sharing the same valley. It’s not North-South Korea different, but definitely noticeable.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  303. New York Tumes, tell me more: Which Democrats are supposedly injecting hormones, which, despite their assumed great conspiratorial abilities, they supposedly cannot obtain other than working with pedophiles holding children captive? And how many people say so and who?

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  304. 314. Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/23/2020 @ 8:08 am

    As for your link, some idiot spoke to a daily tabloid, remarking that a country contained the virus and made the illogical leap that the country achieved herd immunity.

    The same mistake was made by Australia, New Zealand, South Korea and Israel. All that they did was reset the clock back to March 5 or February. You can;t get off that hamster wheel.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  305. Well, I didn’t watch any of the Democrats’ virtual convention. I did see some clips from it on the few news shows I watch and read several articles in various newspaper and websites online that included quotes and analyses. Of all them, only Eric Boehm at Reason pointed out one glaring omission. The Democrats largely ignored the deleterious effects on the economy of Trump’s tariffs and trade wars. Over four nights, and out of dozens of speakers, only two farmers briefly mentioned how the tariffs and trade was have severely and negatively impacted their farms and market shares, driven them to the verge of bankruptcy, in their short videotaped testimonies.

    https://reason.com/2020/08/21/did-joe-biden-and-the-democratic-national-convention-forget-about-trumps-tariffs/

    Perhaps the DNC reasoned that a virtual convention was not the proper venue to bring up concerns about tariffs and trade wars. Maybe they’re waiting to bring up these issues during the debates, which will have a much larger viewing audience. Or it could be that they and assorted Super-PACs are planning a commercial blitz in the coming months and weeks before the election. I don’t know, but I think emphasizing how badly Trump’s tariffs and trade wars have affected large sections of the economy is a powerful message to bring to the attention of the American people.

    Boehm correctly notes that the last incumbent president to not win reelection did so because he raised taxes, after thunderously promising not to. That was G. H. W. Bush’s fatal mistake. A large number of Republicans who believed his infamous “read my lips” pledge–“No new taxes!–in 1988 did not return to the polls to vote for him in 1992, because he broke that campaign promise, by raising taxes halfway through his first term. I was one of those people. I do not like it when politicians campaign on one thing, then turn around and to the opposite once they get into office. That’s why my basic political philosophy is, vote against the incumbent. Rare is the politician I will vote to reelect, because most of them do not govern by what they campaigned on.

    The problem, as Boehm also correctly notes, is that tariffs are hidden taxes on producers and consumers, in that they do not appear on tax forms, like increases in income or property taxes. That’s what drove voters away from Bush–they could see his broken promise on their tax forms, and they didn’t like it. People tend not to recognize tariffs as taxes, which in fact what tariffs are, even though consumers and producers are paying higher prices for goods and services at stores and businesses, several of which are highly stressed at this time.

    Upthread, some commenters discussed how Trump’s mistakes and policies have damaged America, mostly involving his inept and incompetent response to the pandemic, which has killed well over 175,000 people so far, 1,000 more with each passing day, one a minute every day, with no end in sight. That certainly is a concern the Democrats addressed at their convention, but failed to make the obvious connection.

    Pre-pandemic, Trump’s tariffs (taxes) not only raised prices on goods and services on consumers and producers, but his trade wars disrupted critical supply chains and cost American farmers and businesses large market shares in the global economy. This is particularly relevant in terms of medical supplies and personal protective equipment. As a result, when the pandemic hit, doctors, nurses, emergency medical technicians (first responders), hospitals, clinics, and labs were woefully unprepared to deal with the initial outbreak and contain this insidious coronavirus. That, combined with Trump’s idiotic dismissal of the disease, laughing it off, saying it will magically disappear, blaming China, insulting and accusing everyone, anyone else for his complete failure to implement a national plan, leaving it up to the states to coordinate their own responses (as if they could afford it, given the higher costs of supplies and equipment, due to his own failed tariff and trade war policies), ignoring medical and disease control experts, promoting insane wild conspiracy theories, and suggesting unproven, untested, and ineffectual, some even deadly cures, remedies and non-existent vaccines, is precisely what led the United States to become No. 1 in the world, in infections, hospitalizations and deaths. MAGA has become MADA–Make America Diseased Again–under his watch and utter failure at governance.

    It was his failed policies pre-pandemic that led to the inability to respond post-pandemic. And that has resulted in millions infected, hundreds of thousands dead, and an economy in a downward spiral the likes of which haven’t been seen since the Great Depression. And it’s only going to get worse, as long as he is in the Oval Office. The entire Republican party should be ashamed of themselves for their slavish devotion to him.

    In conclusion, I will say that, from what I have seen and read, the Democratic National (Virtual) Convention, was slickly produced and went over quite well. I personally do not know about that, since I didn’t watch it, but I will point out, along with Boehm, that they should have put more emphasis on Trump’s failed tariffs and trade wars, because those are what led us into this disaster in the first place. Perhaps more of that is forthcoming in the near future, we shall see. I think it’s not only a winning but obliteration strategy, but then I am not a political consultant.

    Oh, and Dana, regarding that young boy’s struggle with his stutter. Biden suffered from the same affliction when he was young, and to see him comfort this boy and help him move forward, was inspiring and very effective programming.

    Do you remember the country singer Mel Tillis? It was some decades ago, but he spoke with a stutter, however when he sang he did not stutter. Something about music, precise notes and chords and rhythm. He stuttered when he spoke, but not when he sang. It is a mystery. The man could sing, but he could not speak without stuttering. Howbeit, Mel Tillis is a far better example to hold up as someone who overcame stuttering than Joe Biden, who to this day suffers from
    malapropisms and gaffes.

    This is going to be the most difficult election in American history.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  306. He won’t be able to stop himself from making this a tortuously long, whinefest:

    “The New York Times reports that in a break with the tradition of keeping a lower profile until the last night, Trump plans to speak on all four nights of the convention that starts Monday. Aides told the newspaper that he wants the extra airtime to rebut accusations leveled against him during the Democratic National Convention last week. Trump will reportedly take the stage at 10 p.m. each night.”

    No matter how much his people try to steer him toward a smart, coherent statement made on a one-night appearance to accept the nomination, he will dig in, and suck up airtime to attack the Democrats for hurting his feelings. This won’t be done on behalf of the American people though, it will be on behalf of himself and his thin skin. IOW, it’s just another day of the week for Trump.

    Dana (292df6)

  307. Acting Homeland Security chief says department does not have authority to send agents to polling locations

    The Department of Homeland Security’s acting secretary on Sunday cast doubt on the department’s authority to send its agents to polling locations after President Donald Trump said he would deploy law enforcement in November to protect against voter fraud.

    “We don’t have any authority to do that at the department,” acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf told CNN’s Jake Tapper on “State of the Union.”

    Asked by Tapper if Trump had asked him to send law enforcement officers to polling centers, Wolf replied: “No, absolutely, he has not. Again, that’s not what we do at the Department of Homeland Security.”

    “We have law enforcement authorities and law enforcement officers at the department, we have express authorities given to us by Congress and this is not one of them,” he said, adding, “This is not a mission for the Department of Homeland Security.”
    ……..
    This must the first time Chad feels he doesn’t have the authority to act as Trump’s enforcer. I’m sure Chad has lawyers that could find authority for him to act, maybe he should ask Bill Barr, I’m sure he could find something.

    Then again, according to the GAO Chad doesn’t have the authority to order paper clips.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  308. @ 320

    At some point — and I think that point is soon now that Biden has “proven” he has all his faculties and can speak coherently for 22 minutes — Trump critics may begin to focus on the bare fact that Trump is continuously speaking to the American People in live settings, and navigating all types of reporters’ questions (mostly hostile) while the Democrat Candidate for President seems largely AWOL.

    How long can Biden’s army of White Knights conceal him with endless virtue signaling and Orange Man Bad defenses?

    As you stated, the President is arguably the most powerful single person in the world and has a huge responsibility to primarily the American People but also the world, and should be able to face the American People and answer their concerns DIRECTLY.

    Where is the Chris Wallace interview of Biden?

    Where are the Biden interviews with actual reporters, like those from the Wall St Journal?

    Aren’t We the People entitled to full vetting in the now of Candidate Biden?

    I think the wheels are going to come off the Bunker Joe wagon.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  309. Here’s the interesting tale of a Dem-on-Dem smear campaign, probably masterminded by the powerful Dem incumbent.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  310. Where are the Biden interviews with actual reporters, like those from the Wall St Journal?

    Axios invited Biden for an interview. He opted for Cardi B instead. So, of course, the way this game gets played is Trump has a “disastrous” Axios interview, while the media and blogs refuse to call Biden out for running away. Which is the worse disaster?

    And, right on cue, Trump gets criticized now for doing something that would freak out the Biden handlers— addressing the convention every night. It’s an ego thing, you see. Focus on Trump, not Biden’s obvious weakness.

    beer ‘n pretzels (c58e3b)

  311. Mr. Grudem did present one of the better pro-Trump arguments. Nevertheless, Trump put his hand on a book that he doesn’t read and swore an oath to “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” It’s an oath he’s broken multiple times over, and it stems from his complete lack of character. The options are Sh*tstain, AnalLeakage or protest vote. I pick Door #3.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  312. In Newly Released Recordings, President Trump’s Sister Says He ‘Has No Principles’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  313. In Newly Released Recordings, President Trump’s Sister Says He ‘Has No Principles’

    Trump: You Leave My Sister Out of This Campaign. Anyway, Back to Jeb Bush’s Brother.

    Posted at 8:00 pm on February 15, 2016 by Leon H. Wolf

    http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/02/15/trump-leave-sister-campaign.-anyway-back-jeb-bushs-brother./

    Earlier today, Donald Trump at his press conference angrily denounced Ted Cruz for bringing his sister into the campaign. You can watch the whole thing here, including his impassioned plea, “My sister has nothing to do with me!” Trump has a point. What sort of scumbag would bring a candidate’s sibling into a campaign, just because that candidate praised their sibling earlier on in the campaign?

    Hilarious.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  314. The stat you are using for “white” isn’t entirely what you make it out to be, though. Only 60% of American’s are white AND non-Latino. The other 16% in there are Latino, who mostly vote Dem.

    All the more reason o as why Biden’s DNC team did what they did:

    Why High-Profile Latino Democrats Won’t Speak at Biden’s Conventionhttp://www.newsweek.com

    Julián Castro warns Democrats of ‘potential slide of Latino support’

    Lone Latino to run for president this year says party ‘could win the battle and lose the war’ amid lack of representation at convention…

    ‘Despite having delivered a keynote speech at the 2012 convention, Castro, 45, was not invited to speak this year, a snub some political analysts tied to his aggressive attacks during the primary on Biden’s mental fitness. That line of attack on the 77-year-old former vice-president has become a central message of the Trump campaign.’ -source guardian.com

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  315. Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/23/2020 @ 9:31 am
    Thanks for that link.

    felipe (023cc9)

  316. You would think that Lou Dobbs was promoted to Chief of Homeland Security.

    President Donald Trump told officials from the Department of Homeland Security to get their marching orders by listening to Fox Business host Lou Dobbs “every night,” former DHS chief of staff Miles Taylor told Anderson Cooper on Friday.
    Dobbs, an effusive supporter of Trump, was basically the “shadow chief of staff” for the department, Taylor said in the CNN interview.
    “The president would call us and … he would say, ‘Why the hell didn’t you watch Lou Dobbs last night? You need to listen to Lou. What Lou says is what I want to do,’” Taylor said.

    It’s like there’s this never-ending cascade of unfitness, with all these unfitness droplets flowing by too quickly to keep track of.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  317. lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/23/2020 @ 10:21 am

    Oh brother, that does not confirm the state of one’s soul; it only reflects the misguided belief that “a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic.” One group seems to be more misguided then the other.

    felipe (023cc9)

  318. “more misguided then the other.”

    Stupid “auto-mistake,” but still my fault for poor editing. This will soften my attitude to those whose comments also contain this defect.

    felipe (023cc9)

  319. Oh brother, that does not confirm the state of one’s soul; it only reflects the misguided belief that “a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic.” One group seems to be more misguided then the other.
    felipe (023cc9) — 8/23/2020 @ 10:47 am

    Wait a minute! The results better reflect naked partisanship, maybe? If so, then one side is less partisan.

    felipe (023cc9)

  320. felipe, it’s hyperbole. And I do believe broken, or at least damaged souls are a better description than misguided belief for people who say 175,000 deaths are acceptable. YMMV.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  321. So far, no support from the peeps here for Biden answering substantive questions from real journalists in a live, unedited setting.

    Does hatred for Trump & America run so deep that you’d put a Joe “Chauncey Gardner” Biden in the WH?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  322. A simple China question for Biden or surrogates.

    Does Biden still believe, as he remarked during a 2011 speech, that “a rising China is a positive, positive development, not only for China but for America and the world writ large”?

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  323. you’d put a Joe “Chauncey Gardner” Biden in the WH?
    Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/23/2020 @ 11:00 am

    I left a comment similar in spirit about Trump. I also said that stiff opposition from the “deep state” would mitigate his efforts to implement his agenda. As it turned out he had plenty of resistance from within his own admin.

    felipe (023cc9)

  324. @339-
    Watch ABC News 20/20 tonight at 8:00 pm Eastern.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  325. Where’s Joe Biden?

    ‘Have you seen Joe Biden lately?

    Probably not. Hardly anyone has. The presumptive Democratic nominee has been largely holed up at his Wilmington, Delaware, home. And with less than three months before Election Day, the campaign has given no indication he’s prepared to go out and meet voters, even as the former vice president tells donors 17 states are in play this fall. He does few TV interviews. There is not the usual filling of lawns with signs.’ – source, USN&WR

    What is his schedule for today? Where is he? Why isn’t he campaigning? Did standing for 20 minutes, reading a teleprompter and waving for 10 minutes sap his daily energy?

    He’s weak.
    He’s frail.
    He’s a loser.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  326. https://www.ibtimes.com/call-duty-black-ops-cold-war-heavy-intrigue-3031244

    Interesting that a game that’s one of the most popular franchises ever actually puts KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov’s words about how communists demoralize and take over a society into their game trailer. Rather appropriate for the time we are living in wouldn’t you say?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  327. @339-
    Your problem is conflating “Trump and America.” They are not one and the same. I believe and love America. I do not feel the same about Trump.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  328. “I left a comment similar in spirit about Trump.”

    A huge stretch except for Trump’s propensity to watch TV news a lot.

    Of course there is resistance from the professional politicians — Trump is not one of them, and you’re aware how cliques treat outsiders.

    Liberals don’t get it, but that fact that Trump is an non-politician outsider is PRECISELY the reason he was elected.

    Traditional politics –especially liberal — no longer work.

    Simply look at Chicago, Portland, Seattle, NYC, LA, San Francisco — all run by Democrats and see if you don’t agree.

    (Democrats have utterly failed and abused blacks for decades, but that’s a whole different discussion)

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  329. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1kfCGjOaSw

    Here’s the COD trailer.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  330. lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/23/2020 @ 11:00 am
    I agree with you, that it is hyperbole. Also, I find your difference of opinion to be principled, and does you credit.

    felipe (023cc9)

  331. 345

    “Love” is best shown by the quality, time, and effort one spends to make something better.

    Major Democrat enclaves do not illustrate this.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  332. Some fun scientific research in these interesting times. Just imagine how some will try to hype it into end of the world scenarios.

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/19/scientists-say-anomaly-in-earths-magnetic-field-is-splitting/

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  333. I had noticed that rcocean hadn’t been around lately and missed him because he is pretty cogent and up to date on the Trumpworld talking points. Glad to see DCSCA don the MAGA hat and manfully try to replace him.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  334. NJRob (eb56c3) — 8/23/2020 @ 11:14 am

    It is interesting and I think it is indicative of maturation.

    felipe (023cc9)

  335. https://www.rebelnews.com/whistleblower_details_training_manual_used_for_censorship_on_facebook

    The way tech companies control the flow of information to manipulate election results.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  336. https://wirepoints.org/ignorance-about-covid-19-risk-is-nothing-short-of-stunning-research-report-says-huge-age-variance-wirepoints/

    Different age groups drastically overstate their risk of the novel virus. Ignorance? Narcissism? Ill informed? Media hype? What could be the cause(s)?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  337. I hope so felipe. Americans of all ages would be much better off if they read and listened to Bezmenov and Solzhenitsyn’s words and experiences living under an actual communist regime.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  338. @342. Another taped and edited presentation?

    ROFLMAOPIP. When will this dying dude do a spontaneous Q@A presser LIVE?

    Fox News can arrange a taped programming schedule for the next few months which can convince YOU and other viewers Ronald Reagan is still alive.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  339. @349-
    “Love” is best shown by the quality, time, and effort one spends to make something better.
    Based on that standard it’s clear Trump doesn’t love America, and it is why I oppose Trump.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  340. NJRob (eb56c3) — 8/23/2020 @ 11:27 am
    I am 100% in agreement.

    felipe (023cc9)

  341. @351. Wrong; how appalling! You still don’t get it: the objective is to neuter the modern ideological conservative movement. Either guy is a win/win– but one is a cadaver on life-support. The question YOU should be asking is which would you prefer: a likely President Harris or a possible President Haley.

    I prefer Haley.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  342. No way most Americans have even an acquaintance with the Gulag Archipelago.

    They’ve been brainwashed into the illusions of immediate gratification as an entitlement w/o the result of effort.

    I find it alarming that the left has embraced an old and relatively rich socialist who is now one of the occupants in the Biden Trojan Horse.

    Biden will paw the ground once for “Yes” and twice for “No” as the MSM cheers.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  343. Based on that standard it’s clear Trump doesn’t love America, and it is why I oppose Trump.

    Neither does Plagiarist JoeyBee.

    “No miracle is coming.”- Joe Biden 8-20-20

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  344. Where is Joe Biden campaigning today?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  345. “Based on that standard it’s clear Trump doesn’t love America, and it is why I oppose Trump.”

    Trump has a long list of accomplishments during his tenure. Now you can disagree that these accomplishments have not made things better, but that’s a matter of opinion when looking at the results fairly.

    For instance, if you think his Prison Reform Bill which has released thousands of unfairly incarcerated people (especially blacks) has no value, then fine.

    IOW, its not at all clear that “Trump doesn’t love America” when you go case by case.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  346. DSSCA

    Now that JoeyBee has said that he represents “the light in America” I must say that his interview by Cardi B was simply illuminating!

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  347. @363-
    Any other so-called accomplishments pale in comparison to his failure to deal with the pandemic.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  348. 365

    I think to date that the American approach to dealing with the pandemic has resulted in about a 90%
    reduction in deaths from Fauci’s original predictions.

    I know that 90% doesn’t qualify as success in your world, but “it is what it is.”

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  349. #359

    As you like to repeat, no miracle is coming. I do like your matchup for 2024 though.

    In seriousness, people live into their 90s and 100s these days. Joey B is likely to last a good long time and seems to have the mental acuity he always had. Chances are against a President Harris.

    Trump, should he have a second term, won’t be removed. The GOP is too cowardly. And while Trumps diet is unhealthy, his medical care is good, so no President Pence either.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  350. And I do believe broken, or at least damaged souls are a better description than misguided belief for people who say 175,000 deaths are acceptable.

    Repeat the question with respect to the 800,000 abortion deaths yearly, or tens of thousands of traffic fatalities, or the many hundreds of thousands of Covid deaths outside the US, then get back to us on your insipid “damaged souls” sanctimony.

    beer ‘n pretzels (c58e3b)

  351. mr. president donald trump, who firmly believes that a penny saved is a penny he’ll soon cheat you out of, finally found true love on July 19, 2016 after 50 years of having to pay for it

    that is his accomplishment

    nk (1d9030)

  352. One definition of plagiarism is “turning in someone else’s work as your own” … like using someone else’s SAT score as your own. Thus Trump is every bit as bad as Biden, or worse since he plagiarized in a way that made it hard to uncover.

    DRJ (aede82)

  353. Any other so-called accomplishments pale in comparison to his failure to deal with the pandemic.

    His failure? How many imbeciles and idiots across America have defied common sense, waved the Constitution in defiance and gathered at motorcycle rallies, sporting events in bars and parties and steadfastly refused to wear masks– spreading the bug and making themselves and exposing others to the virus???

    When Murrow did his famous See It Now broadcast on CBS that helped expose Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-WI), he ended the program with a quote from Julius Caesar by Shakespeare, “The fault, dear Brutus, is not in the stars, but in ourselves.”

    Avoid crowds. Wear a mask. Wash your hands. Work from home.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  354. Joey B is likely to last a good long time and seems to have the mental acuity he always had.

    I saw what you did there and find it very amusing. 🙂

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  355. @370. Joe Shapiro’s wife says he never took SATs for Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  356. Trump

    Hothouse flowers
    Withered, sterile
    No past, no future
    A breath away from the compost heap
    Cheer the crumbling of the hothouse
    Futile defiance
    Punctuating the end
    Of their meaningless existence

    — nk

    nk (1d9030)

  357. @367. As you like to repeat, no miracle is coming.

    Quoting Joe Biden irritates you.

    Doesn’t it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  358. Paul Montagu, this sounds very much like what Trump would do. We know he doesn’t do his homework, doesn’t make it his business to do the hard work of learning, and loves anyone who reveres him. So why not this?

    President Donald Trump told officials from the Department of Homeland Security to get their marching orders by listening to Fox Business host Lou Dobbs “every night,” former DHS chief of staff Miles Taylor told Anderson Cooper on Friday.
    Dobbs, an effusive supporter of Trump, was basically the “shadow chief of staff” for the department, Taylor said in the CNN interview.
    “The president would call us and … he would say, ‘Why the hell didn’t you watch Lou Dobbs last night? You need to listen to Lou. What Lou says is what I want to do,’” Taylor said.

    Dana (292df6)

  359. 351… backhanded complements don’t disguise your own binders full of Democratic talking points.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  360. Joey B is likely to last a good long time and seems to have the mental acuity he always had. Chances are against a President Harris.

    ROFLMAOPIP.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  361. WHERE is healthy, vigorous, sharp-as-a-tack Joe Biden campaigning today?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  362. 373… allegations don’t equal guilt and often leave egg on the face of teh allegator.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  363. #375

    If I am quoting Biden, I could be unknowingly quoting someone else too. That is irritating. It messes up my footnotes.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  364. @367. As you like to repeat, no miracle is coming.

    Mackerel on Friday, chicken on Sunday.

    nk (1d9030)

  365. @376: Dobbs is a partisan hack, says partisan hack Miles Taylor on partisan hack Anderson Cooper’s show on partisan hack CNN.

    beer ‘n pretzels (c58e3b)

  366. Some good questions for our intrepid media, lol…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbghAO6PT0

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  367. @383. A bucket of extra crispy for Plagiarist JoeyBee– to kick.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  368. So far, no support from the peeps here for Biden answering substantive questions from real journalists in a live, unedited setting.
    Does hatred for Trump & America run so deep that you’d put a Joe “Chauncey Gardner” Biden in the WH?

    One, I don’t care if Biden chooses to be interviewed or not. At some point, he’ll have to come out and take hard questions and he’ll have to show up to three debates. There’s the old adage that applies to Trump, that if you find your opponent digging himself into a hole, you stay out of the way and let him.
    Two, one can have contempt for Trump as a man and president while still loving the country he presides over. And how much Trump actually loves America is open to question, especially when he was trying to work a real estate deal with Putin while running for our nation’s highest office. It’s a clear example of Trump putting his personal greed over this country.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  369. I read planned parenthood has aborted the margaret sanger award

    mg (8cbc69)

  370. My guess is that America will vote for the “moderate” Biden and get a massively statist “progressive” regime. Biden will resign in Feb 2023 (giving Harris a possible 10 years in office), and then the Left will really take charge. The National Climate Emergency will have us all regimented and controlled. Since the guns will be rounded up beforehand, we’ll be under the thumb of the Green Police, poor and minorities exempted of course.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  371. Biden saying “No miracle is coming” is more honest than saying “the virus will just disappear”, “we’ll have a vaccine by Election Day”, “anyone get a test”, or any of the other myriad false predictions Trump has made.

    Tick tock-71 days to go.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  372. OTOH, I don’t know if the country will survivew 4 more years of Trump.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  373. Trump’s next “game changer” and “tremendous breakthrough”: Convalescent plasma. Note that the timing of the announcement is the day before the convention.

    Many scientists and physicians believe that convalescent plasma might provide some benefit but is far from a breakthrough. It is rich in antibodies that could be helpful in fighting the coronavirus, but the evidence so far has not been conclusive about whether it works, when to administer it and what dose is needed. On CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday, former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb said the blood product — derived from patients who have survived covid-19 — is “probably beneficial” for covid-19 patients. The issuance of an emergency authorization would make it easier to get in some settings. But he also said it already is widely available, so the change would be “incremental.”
    […]
    Convalescent plasma has long has been used for other infectious diseases, including Ebola. The treatment’s effectiveness for covid-19 has appeared promising but has remained unsettled because scientists don’t yet have results from rigorous clinical trials. The tens of thousands of patients already treated have been enrolled in an expanded access program sponsored by the FDA and run by the Mayo Clinic.

    I hope it works, but we’ll see how the randomized clinical trials turn out. But once again, Trump is jumping the gun on a “cure”, only this time on the eve of the convention to jumpstart is flailing and failing campaign.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  374. 390… the problematic segment of the country would serve themselves and their countrymen well if they resisted the temptation to hang on every word spoken by Trump. It’s not healthy – mentally or physically – and certainly not productive.

    I feel only sympathy for anyone who has the misfortune to cross paths with some of these fever swamp lefties.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  375. “One, I don’t care if Biden chooses to be interviewed or not. At some point, he’ll have to come out and take hard questions and he’ll have to show up to three debates. There’s the old adage that applies to Trump, that if you find your opponent digging himself into a hole, you stay out of the way and let him.”

    It doesn’t matter if you care about Biden being interviewed or not. Its the voters’ opinion that counts.

    I’m not sure right now where the consensus is on that right now.

    I agree with the old adage, but realize that you could well be talking about Biden hiding in his basement.

    Why do you think Biden will show up for the debates? My bet is he doesn’t. Of course this will be for some well crafted reason blaming Trump.

    As we’ve seen in live Biden appearances, he can’t even handle small town halls with his own supporters.

    But if Biden does not show up for the debates, or gives “pre-recorded” answers to “pre-vetted” questions without facing Trump, I’m sure you’ll be fine with that.

    You’re being played and you don’t realize it.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  376. Trump Hit With Another Twitter Warning After Misleading Tweet On Mail-In Voting
    Twitter on Sunday once again applied a warning to one of President Trump’s tweets making false claims on mail-in voting, saying it violated the company’s policy against sharing “false or misleading information intended to intimidate or dissuade people from participating in an election or other civic process.”
    …….
    “ We placed a public interest notice on this Tweet for violating our Civic Integrity Policy for making misleading health claims that could potentially dissuade people from participation in voting,” Twitter wrote, placing a warning on the tweet that requires users to click to view.

    Trump tweeted Sunday morning, “So now the Democrats are using Mail Drop Boxes, which are a voter security disaster. Among other things, they make it possible for a person to vote multiple times. Also, who controls them, are they placed in Republican or Democrat areas? They are not Covid sanitized. A big fraud!”

    Beyond the false claims around the security of voting by mail, the tweet also misleads regarding the transmission of Covid-19, which is mainly spread through person-to-person airborne transmission—exacerbated by being indoors—and less so by contacting surfaces, though to mitigate the risk, experts recommend people avoid touching their faces and disinfecting their hands with soap or sanitizer.
    ………

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  377. I agree with the old adage, but realize that you could well be talking about Biden hiding in his basement.
    Why do you think Biden will show up for the debates?

    The key factor is that Biden has been in his basement yet is leading by 7.6%.
    As for your question, if you have evidence that he’s going to welsh on the deal, then show me. As it is, he would take a major political hit if he bails, and it’s not as if he didn’t participate in multiple debates mere months ago. He didn’t kill it, but he didn’t crater either. When was the last time Trump debated?

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  378. 389.Biden saying “No miracle is coming” is more honest…

    Honesty? From an outed serial plagiarist?! Biden saying, “I’ll be dead and with my beloved Beau soon,” would be honest, too. Not particularly inspiring to the American people facing daunting adversity from a fella running for the job as a leader and CIC– but honest.

    Sorta like FDR declaring “I’m a cripple. I have polio. Have sympathy; vote for me.” Or Ronald Reagan declaring, ‘While the boys scaled the cliffs at Point du Hoc, I fought the Germans and the Japanese from Culver City, Califonia.” Honest. But not particularly inspiring from a CIC.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  379. “OTOH, I don’t know if the country will survive 4 more years of Trump”

    Are you aware what’s happening in major US cities right now that are run by Democrats?

    How long do you think NYC will last at the rate it is declining?

    It may be past the point of no return.

    How about Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Chicago — you really think these are sustainable under Democrat rule?

    These cities have nothing or very little do do with Trump.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  380. 390.OTOH, I don’t know if the country will survivew 4 more years of Trump.

    Civil War, Great Depression, 2 world wars… 1968… a pandemic… yeah, It’ll muddle through 4 more years of Trump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  381. Dobbs is a partisan hack, says partisan hack Miles Taylor on partisan hack Anderson Cooper’s show on partisan hack CNN.

    So if someone has spent his entire career working for Republican administrations or officials, but finds Donald Trump to be uniquely unfit in his sociopathic lunacy, then he suddenly becomes a “partisan hack.”

    And all the other Republican former national security officials who are publicly saying that Trump is so dangerous that they’re voting for Biden despite their misgivings about policy? Partisan hacks, every one!

    And the people still working in the White House who are quietly saying they agree about the deep unfitness of Donald Trump, his selfishness and idiocy? More partisan hacks!

    And when Hannity says privately that Trump is “crazy”? Well, he must be a partisan hack when the cameras aren’t rolling.

    Because the only thing that really matters is: Do you love Donald Trump unconditionally?

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  382. #396

    A good plagiarist would have said he could promise nothing but blood, toil, tears and sweat.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  383. “As for your question, if you have evidence that he’s going to welsh on the deal, then show me. As it is, he would take a major political hit if he bails, and it’s not as if he didn’t participate in multiple debates mere months ago. He didn’t kill it, but he didn’t crater either. When was the last time Trump debated?”

    I have no evidence Biden will bail on the debate.

    I do, however, see how he behaves in live situations, and it would basically be elder abuse to put him on stage live with Trump for two hours for three debates.

    If you haven’t noticed Biden’s marked mental decline, then I suggest you take a look at the videos of his recent performances vs his performances when he was Vice Pres.

    The difference is marked and significant.

    The last time Trump did a presidential debate was with Hillary Clinton in 2016.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  384. So, even though Trump has continually lied about the pandemic, it’s okay because the lies are “inspiring”?

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  385. If you haven’t noticed Biden’s marked mental decline, then I suggest you take a look at the videos of his recent performances vs his performances when he was Vice Pres.

    Well, I think it’s neck-and-neck as to which candidate has declined more in the mental acuity department. The debates may well provide some clarity. And, yes, I think they will debate, all three times, and Harris-Pence will debate once, per the rules set forth by the Commission on Presidential Debates. Going further, if I were to lay odds, I’d say that Trump is more likely to breach the deal because he has a record of deal-breaching, maybe pass off the debate arrangement as “rigged” or something.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  386. So if someone has spent his entire career working for Republican administrations or officials, but finds Donald Trump to be uniquely unfit in his sociopathic lunacy, then he suddenly becomes a “partisan hack.”

    There are plenty of current and former officials who aren’t singing a tune for the Democrats, but they don’t seem to get interviewed by Cooper. Why is that? Is it because Miles Taylor has household name recognition (/sarc)? You’ve always known about this guy before he appeared in a political ad, right Ragedunda?

    beer ‘n pretzels (8fedbd)

  387. 405

    I would take the other side of your bet and double down.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  388. “Watch me. Mr. President, watch me. Look at us both. Look at us both, what we say, what we do, what we control, what we know, what kind of shape we’re in…. I think it’s a legitimate question to ask anybody over 70 years old whether or not they’re fit and whether they’re ready. But I just, only thing I can say to the American people, it’s a legitimate question to ask anybody. Watch me”…“

    —- Joe Biden

    He’s bragging about fighting a dependency on Depends®.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  389. 403… any links to news on Andy Cuomo, Rip Taylor?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  390. @400. A good plagiarist would have said he could promise nothing but blood, toil, tears and sweat.

    A ‘good’ plagiarist wouldn’t have been repeatedly caught doing it and forced to quit his 1988 presidential campaign because of it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  391. Why is that? Is it because Miles Taylor has household name recognition …

    So the accusation has changed from “partisan hack” to “cynical publicity-seeker,” because the “partisan hack” charge is so transparently ludicrous.

    If Miles Taylor is such a craven opportunist, why has he apparently been content to work quietly in the background heretofore? Same question re: all those career national security officials who have signed a statement on Trump’s unfitness. They’re just now stomping their little feet and demanding attention?

    Being a Republican who’s willing to criticize Trump is not the surest path to glory (see “Romney, Mitt”).

    Maybe you should reflect on what leads you to accuse them of being cynical publicity-seekers but see the Trump boot-lickers who formerly criticized him in very strong terms as models of integrity.

    And it’s passing strange that a reflexive defender of Donald Trump — who is nothing if not a seeker of publicity and adulation — would purport to be offended by publicity-seeking.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  392. @408. Biden outta jut plagiarize Reagan’s quip to Mondale.

    Who’d notice? 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  393. Mary Trump says it is a different Joe Shapiro, DCSCA. Not Pam Shriver’s husband.

    DRJ (aede82)

  394. that’s your high water mark

    https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-exceeds-all-expectations-by-speaking-coherently-for-over-20-minutes

    Google hired taylor, are they still trying not to be evil anymore, as if,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  395. “Yesterday, Dec. 7, 1941 – a date which will live in infamy – the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

    No miracle is coming.”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  396. I doubt any politician would let plagiarism force him/her to stop running in today’s world. Character is no longer an issue after Clinton and especially Trump. Stepping down as Biden did shows remorse and shame, a character element that is sorely lacking now.

    DRJ (aede82)

  397. @413. Biden was caught at it.

    Repeatedly. Enough to force him to quit his presidential run in 1988. Trump has only had allegations tossed at him.

    Catch him if you can.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  398. Being a Republican who’s willing to criticize Trump is not the surest path to glory (see “Romney, Mitt”).

    LOL. Romney, like Taylor, has suddenly become the darling of those who purport to speak for the 47%. And, I’m sure both are so drunk on the accolades, they’re certain they’ll still be loved after Trump is gone.

    You’re neither offended by publicity wh*res nor partisan hacks. They just need to be the right wh*res and right hacks.

    beer ‘n pretzels (0a32c4)

  399. 416.I doubt any politician would let plagiarism force him/her to stop running in today’s world.

    I do. Start stealing from Churchill or FDR… even Reagan– and you’re political toast.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  400. So FDR, Churchill and Reagan are not allowed but plagiarizing Elle Woods is ok, DCSCA?

    DRJ (aede82)

  401. Maybe he should aim a little higher.

    DRJ (aede82)

  402. Haiku at 402:

    Dayum!!!

    And she’s the marital inverse of Sheriff Clarke. To paraphrase Dean Cain (watch him show up on RNC Zoom this week) in his guest star turn on A Different World, in February 1992, “that’s one black girl worth…”

    urbanleftbehind (37a98b)

  403. DCSCA et. al. –
    You’ve made the character argument against Biden, what is the character argument for Trump?

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  404. 422… ulb… Klasik’s the kind of politician who focuses on – and likes – helping people. Democrats do NOT like that and they don’t appreciate or value those who do.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  405. @423. Where have you been– did you miss 2016?

    Character doesn’t matter.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  406. So, for the last 5 months there was an emergency use authorization for convalescent plasma and has been used to treat patients for Covid. Last week the FDA removed it because the data came back and it didn’t seem to help much in the 70,000 uses of it so far. Sunday, Trump trots out and says it’s a new and game changing treatment, the same treatment that’s been used for months, but he’s signing an order that “says” it’s a game changer.

    Again, the thing that has been used for since the beginning, that their tests to date doesn’t seem to do much. It doesn’t have any negative consequence, other than cost, and it may help some. But words like “NEW” and “Game Changing” have meaning, and something that has been used for decades in other treatments and months in this one can’t be “NEW” and it can’t be “Game Changing” if it doesn’t change the game.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  407. yes the fda is mostly useless, who knew, the evidence for masks, social distancing et al, are nearly as apocryphal but such is life,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  408. @426. It’s… a miracle! 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  409. Democrats have pretty much destroyed Baltimore and they’re doing their damnedest to violently euthanize Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, etc.. NYC is much degraded under Democratic control

    And they think Americans haven’t taken notice.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  410. The rampant vindictive idiocy mixed with insanity that characterizes so many leftwingers is but one more indictment of their ideology…

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1297618336117710848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1297618336117710848%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Falthouse.blogspot.com%2F

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  411. #426: the topic of convalescent sera is not as simple as you describe, with all due respect. I know one of the promoters of this (long known) approach to the current crisis. Please follow his work before you allow politics to enter into public health (which has always been a problem; remember HIV?).

    https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/07/28/convalescent-plasma-study-speeds-to-trials/

    https://ccpp19.org/key-scientific-papers/index.html

    I simply do not trust the news any more. And I find that even scientists seem to leave reason behind in their hatred of DJT. I just want solutions and to save lives. The history of convalescent sera is well known and has saved lives in the past. Issues of double blind trials are always a challenge. Historically, the procedure can help.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7289739/

    I promise you that, if Biden wins, convalescent sera will be accepted as part of a series of solutions without anyone batting an eye.

    God above, how I hate politics.

    Simon Jester (d78daa)

  412. @431

    In their hubris, the Dems seem to think that since CNN, MSNBC, MSM, etc do not report on this, then it doesn’t exist in voters’ minds.

    It will be interesting to see the GOP Convention. There will likely be much footage of cities on fire, that the MSM will have to broadcast if they are willing to air the convention.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  413. it does make you wonder what basis the fda is using to justify shutting things down

    btw David Dorn’s widow, will be speaking at the convention,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  414. Go ahead and have a shot of Pappy Van Pudpuller on me, klink.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  415. 429

    This is so inspirational and just makes me teary eyed with love for Black Lives Matter!
    I hope they paint beautiful BLM “murals” in American streets all over the country before election day.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  416. 429… a lot of rain in Portland and much more than their share of scum, narciso!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  417. Thanks for the information, Simon Jester.
    Casadeval is a life saver.

    mg (8cbc69)

  418. Trump tweeted Sunday morning, “So now the Democrats are using Mail Drop Boxes, which are a voter security disaster. Among other things, they make it possible for a person to vote multiple times. Also, who controls them, are they placed in Republican or Democrat areas? They are not Covid sanitized. A big fraud!”

    Guess which part of this Twitter ignored. Since the sole security of voter registration is the physical address given, allowing one to use private PO boxes seems guaranteed to result in voter fraud. There is little to prevent registering a person with a common name in 3 (or 23) different precincts if the mail goes to mail drops and if identifying information, such as SSN is not required.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  419. The first thing out of Trump’s Putin cock-holster about the coronavirus was that it was a political stunt. A Democrat hoax to bring down the stock market and hurt his reelection. It presaged everything he was going to do and everything he has done.

    nk (1d9030)

  420. A ‘good’ plagiarist wouldn’t have been repeatedly caught doing it and forced to quit his 1988 presidential campaign because of it.

    It still remains passing odd that Biden’s stick of unethical behavior is spotlighted while Biden’s opponent’s unethical behavior is 50 acres of orchard. I blame Reagan for this lack of perspective.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  421. So FDR, Churchill and Reagan are not allowed but plagiarizing Elle Woods is ok, DCSCA?

    C’mon. Trump echoed platitudes that have been in every commencement speech since Oxford opened. That they could cut clips out of Elle Woods’ speech just shows how much they WERE platitudes. Trump is too unlettered to be an actual plagiarist.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  422. I promise you that, if Biden wins, convalescent sera will be accepted as part of a series of solutions without anyone batting an eye.

    Well, as long as you promise the thing that’s been in use for months, and will be in use for the next few months, will be allowed to be in use after Biden is president.

    Good thing someone can explain that to me. You know, the part about it being in use today, and yesterday, and next week, and maybe when Biden is president because it might not be completely worthless, or something. Thanks.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  423. Trump’s Putin cock-holster

    I don’t want to hear another word about QAnon’s nutty conspiracy talk.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  424. Trump Campaign Sr. Advisor Jason Miller potentially facing criminal contempt of court charges
    ……..
    Jason Miller was the campaign’s national spokesman during the 2016 election and was going to be Trump’s White House communications director but lost the gig before Trump was even inaugurated when a campaign surrogate revealed that their extramarital affair led to a baby while his wife was also pregnant. Quietly rehired in June 2020, Miller’s troubles are still far from over.

    Now, that former campaign surrogate A.J. Delgado — a New York lawyer who has since become a tremendous Trump administration critic — has filed a motion for criminal contempt against her former lover Miller.

    Delgado accuses Jason Miller of being a deadbeat dad who owes a five-figure sum in child support payments, while he’s making huge bucks working for Donald Trump’s campaign to reelect the President. …….
    …….
    Miller still owes over $17,000 in back child-support as of today.
    …….
    “Nobody really knows the chances of this judge appointing a special prosecutor. But the court can not only incarcerate Miller for non-payment but also suspend his driver’s license, his passport and even seize his tax refunds or stimulus payments, regardless of if the criminal contempt proceedings commence,” concluded Florida family lawyer and mediator (Kira Willig, Esq. of the law firm Robert J. Hanreck P.A., which specializes in divorce, paternity and family law) “When faced with a jail cell, non-payers all of a sudden seem to come up with the money they claim they didn’t have.”
    ……..
    He was rehired by the Trump Campaign in early June 2020, which Politico aptly remarked was “despite past scandals.”
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  425. Rip Taylor of teh National Perspirer…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  426. orchards produce fruit
    biden and 47 years gets you fruit flies

    mg (8cbc69)

  427. 445… snarky and arguing with a fellow who knows so much more about this particular subject than you does not speak well of you, klink.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  428. Since the sole security of voter registration is the physical address given, allowing one to use private PO boxes seems guaranteed to result in voter fraud. There is little to prevent registering a person with a common name in 3 (or 23) different precincts if the mail goes to mail drops and if identifying information, such as SSN is not required.
    Addresses (at least in California) are not the sole security for ballots. Returned ballots (whether mailed or left in drop boxes) are required to be signed by the voter, which is confirmed with the signature on the voter registration file. Ballots also have a bar code so voters can go to a website and confirm that their vote was counted.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  429. Latina coulter got on my nerves many years ago along with scotty nelson with a capital t.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  430. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/23/2020 @ 5:28 pm

    That’s hilarious! Say, didn’t Allen Kim cover last year’s Goodrich blimp accident?

    felipe (023cc9)

  431. @444. For you- and DRJ: Reagan plagiarism, 1980: “I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green!” (referring to the editor Jon Breen), stolen from Frank Capra’s 1948 film State of the Union – a line uttered by Republican presidential nominee Grant Matthews [Spencer Tracy].

    One can only admire the handsome memory, deep intellect, clever creativity and keen media savvy of a man who quotes lines from movies, eh, Kevin. 😉

    “The, uh, stuff that dreams are made of.”- Samuel Spade [Humphrey Bogart] ‘The Maltese Falcon’ 1941

    DCSCA (797bc0)


  432. Joel Pollak
    @joelpollak

    BBC Fact-checks Joe Biden for Charlottesville ‘Very Fine People‘ Hoax https://breitbart.com/the-media/2020/08/23/bbc-fact-checks-joe-biden-for-charlottesville-very-fine-people-hoax/… via
    @BreitbartNews
    __ _

    Claudia Tenney
    @claudiatenney
    ·
    US House candidate, NY-22

    We have to rely on foreign media to set the record straight.
    __ _

    harkin (cd4502)

  433. plenty of puffery to go around Bolivar di griz

    mg (8cbc69)

  434. The #FakeNews media can’t find the bathroom without a press release. Which they totally plagiarize. So … why did Breitbart need to plagiarize BBC? Why didn’t they do the Charlottesville fact check themselves?

    nk (1d9030)

  435. Plagiarists!

    nk (1d9030)

  436. That’s hilarious, but that is CNN, felipe.

    Don’t know about Kim’s coverage…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  437. When DCSCA et al admit to themselves that Trump plagiarized “Make America Great Again” from Reagan, or at least acknowledge that Trump has never had an original thought in his illiterate life, I’ll grant them a smidgeon of credibility in their incessant whining about Biden’s supposed character flaw.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  438. No gawain, but it seems you would have been against reagan as well, as you lick the statist boots again and again.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  439. Not to be confused with plagal.

    nk (1d9030)

  440. Whaddya mean which? How about ALL, as in prosecute all the “protesters” who broke the law. This is why there are consecutive days of violence since George Floyd, and it’s why Mr. Haner was knocked unconscious with a blindside kick to the head, it’s because of idiot DA Schmidt.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  441. 411.

    So the accusation has changed from “partisan hack” to “cynical publicity-seeker,” because the “partisan hack” charge is so transparently ludicrous.

    If Miles Taylor is such a craven opportunist, why has he apparently been content to work quietly in the background heretofore? Same question re: all those career national security officials who have signed a statement on Trump’s unfitness. They’re just now stomping their little feet and demanding attention?

    Being a Republican who’s willing to criticize Trump is not the surest path to glory (see “Romney, Mitt”).

    Maybe you should reflect on what leads you to accuse them of being cynical publicity-seekers but see the Trump boot-lickers who formerly criticized him in very strong terms as models of integrity.

    And it’s passing strange that a reflexive defender of Donald Trump — who is nothing if not a seeker of publicity and adulation — would purport to be offended by publicity-seeking.
    Radegunda (e1ea47) — 8/23/2020 @ 1:50 pm

    Please comment more.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  442. @462. Of course he did, GG. But he was smarter; Trump trademarked it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  443. You can tell by their hawaiian shirts, montagu, yes they elected an associate of the black bloc,

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  444. @462.Postscript- the only people overlooking Biden’s character flaws while lambasting Trump’s high living style– are down-and-out-Mona-Charen-Georgie-Will-Jonah-Goldberg-National-Review-Lincoln-Project-types who’ve found themselves wholly tossed out of not just the game, but the deck as well, like the jokers they are. Welcome to 1964.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  445. 462… if there’s one thing GG knows, it’s “incessant whining”…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  446. “It’s morning in America. No miracle is coming.”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  447. Two Twitter threads that really make me wonder if CA is fixable, and if not, how soon this dumpster fire will reach everywhere:

    LA
    @rambinho503

    Thanks to Gavin Newsom & Mayor Eric Garcetti Santa Monica businesses are going out of business

    https://twitter.com/rambinho503/status/1297222446068596737?s=20
    _

    Kyle Zink
    @kylezink

    Walgreen’s employee: “Items are stolen faster than we can restock them…so we don’t.”

    SF is collapsing on itself and no politicians/police are fighting the problem.

    https://twitter.com/kylezink/status/1297306838052945920?s=20
    _

    harkin (cd4502)

  448. When did Reagan say “Make America Great Again”? What I remember Reagan saying is “America is too great to dream small dreams”.

    Big difference between “is” and “make”. Should I link a dictionary for you?

    And like orange sewer scum could make anything more than a great stench, but we’ve already said that.

    nk (1d9030)

  449. Morning in america, to get past the grey goo the peanut farmer had ladeled upon us.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  450. The Trump-Kushners shop at Walgreens?

    nk (1d9030)

  451. @473.”Ronald Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign for the presidency on the banks of the Hudson River, overlooking the Statue of Liberty, on Labor Day in 1980 with a promise to “make America great again.” – RRLibrary

    But he didn’t trademark the phrase. Trump did.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  452. Thank you. I didn’t know that.

    nk (1d9030)

  453. “The Trump-Kushners shop at Walgreens?“
    __

    Good luck finding a Republican voter in that neighborhood. The complete implosion of these urban areas is an achievement for which the Dems can claim complete ownership.
    _

    harkin (cd4502)

  454. The point is even the bbc has figured out that the solon is talking out of his ass.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  455. @477.

    Ronald Reagan on Making America Great Again | Reagan.com

    http://www.reagan.com/ronald-reagans-commitment-to-make...

    Ronald Reagan’s Commitment to Make America Great Again. May 01, 2020 IN HIS WORDS “Make America Great Again” has been everywhere in the last few years: on hats, billboards, T-shirts and everything in between. Many associate the phrase with President Donald Trump but, in fact, it has much older roots—with President Ronald Reagan.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  456. Whereas the other wants to abolish America as currently constituted,

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  457. Similar to the case of Alex Morse (which I mentioned above), a Cambodian monk faced a social media campaign so bad that he had to flee the country. The common thread is that the smearers are the ones holding onto power.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  458. Will Kim Yo Jong be the next Thatcher?

    mg (8cbc69)

  459. Yo-jong

    mg (8cbc69)

  460. @463 I don’t lick any boot or kiss any ring. Reagan was the first president I was eligible to vote for in 1980. I attended his rally to announce his reelection campaign in Austin in 1984. I also met William F. Buckley that year when he came to film an episode of Firing Line at UT. I also wrote poetry for the Texas Review and actively participated in the campus debates as a member of the Young Republicans.

    That was then. This is now. The Republican party has become so corrupted and disfigured under and by Trump that it is now unrecognizable as a viable political entity, unworthy of any support from a sentient conservative or a libertarian like me.

    So you can take your petty little statist insult and stick it so far up your rectum that it blacks out whatever blink of light still exists in your vacant and unintelligible brain.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  461. @485. Revisit the 1980s; Trump is a Reagan Creation, GG.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  462. someone need a kleenex

    mg (8cbc69)

  463. Something is wrong, very wrong, incredibly wrong with Howard Fineman…

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/3E8BFA57-FAEE-46F6-AC87-29A7614F8C0A.jpeg

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  464. Does Jill Biden marital affair put her in the same bed as v.p. candidate heels up?

    mg (8cbc69)

  465. “Read my lips… no miracle is coming.”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  466. KY Jong dare one say, needs to scarf down a st. Bernard to be K-pop worthy.

    urbanleftbehind (37a98b)

  467. 490 – Super news

    mg (8cbc69)

  468. All that was missing from the GG rebuttal was the preceding clause “While you were on a dinghy or bivouac’d under I-95,” That’s as bad as the old “Narco” cheapshots.

    urbanleftbehind (37a98b)

  469. “She couldn’t control her daughter…, next question”

    urbanleftbehind (37a98b)

  470. 490

    Surprised Kellyanne hasn’t left already. Probably she’s busy picking a frying pan to beat the sheet out of her fat slob, traitorous husband. Maybe Trump will let her borrow a couple of Secret Service guys to do it for her. I predict she will divorce him at some point after her kids are sorted out.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  471. She was a Cruzer originally, maybe she jumped before she was pushed.

    urbanleftbehind (37a98b)

  472. 490.Kellyanne Conway to leave the White House at the end of the month, citing the need to focus on her family

    Alternative facts:

    She was the leaker.
    She was told to quit or be fired
    She was fired.
    She was hired by Fox

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  473. Dibs!

    nk (1d9030)

  474. Does Jill Biden marital affair put her in the same bed as v.p. candidate heels up?

    It definitely gets put in the FakeNews bed.
    Regarding Ms. Conway, she had a good run and she was probably Trump’s most effective politico in 2016 to help him get elected. I wish her well, but we all know what “spending more time with my family” means in politicalspeak. I also wouldn’t be surprised if she came out and said the guy was unfit. She’s had to deal with his unfitness on a daily basis for over four years.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  475. Its very stalinist, having kids denounce their parents, very patty davis, in fact ron jr took a while be a total sanitary product.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  476. It would be amazing if Ms. Conway was Anonymous.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  477. George conway is stepping away from the mr. creosote bowl.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  478. @503. Was only half-kidding, too.

    Nobody at that level just ‘quits’ the night before the convention roll out begins.

    Alternativ Fact: It was a condition dictated by Haley before she’d accept the VP slot. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  479. “She’s had to deal with his unfitness on a daily basis for over four years.”

    Yes, her slob of a husband has been a jerk ever since she started work at the WH.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  480. 489.Does Jill Biden marital affair put her in the same bed as v.p. candidate heels up?

    Cheating on a plagiarist? What goes around comes around, eh?! 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  481. 502

    Nubile and fertile young girls during Hitler’s reign would turn their parents in to the Gestapo if they interfered with the girls sexual appetites to breed for the Fuhrer. The parents would be arrested, disappear, and the girls bred and popped out racially pure babies.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  482. Well its a very soviet innovation, remeber the bourgeouis family is replaced by the state of the party, take a (redacted) bow.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  483. Her name is Zeynep Tufekci (pronounced ZAY-nep too-FEK-chee), and she was right. Out of all the paragraphs, this one stuck.

    “They didn’t trust us to tell the truth on masks,” she said. “We think of society as this Hobbesian thing, as opposed to the reality where most people are very friendly, most people are prone to solidarity.”

    Mr. Creosote was just as gross as I remembered when seeing him on the big screen.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  484. Nubile and fertile young girls during Hitler’s reign would turn their parents in to the Gestapo if they interfered with the girls sexual appetites to breed for the Fuhrer. The parents would be arrested, disappear, and the girls bred and popped out racially pure babies.

    I don’t know about the Gestapo part, but Heinrich Himmler was extremely anti-abortion (I don’t think I should say pro-life, do you?) and the SS maintained homes for unwed mothers (of the correct racial type, of course). That’s where Fred and Mary Anne Trump adopted Donald from.

    nk (1d9030)

  485. An interesting #WalkAway video in California.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JQZTTzxBO4

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  486. The other part of the story is that George Conway is leaving the Lincoln Project. What a concept, husband and wife both made compromises, and probably for the sakes of their kids.

    Paul Montagu (11948b)

  487. 493… thx, mg. A vaccine for this political distemper is needed right after they deliver what’s needed to combat Teh Wuhan Bat Flu.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  488. And what was your last prior identity here, “Eyefull”? Although I can guess, and I don’t need writing analysis software to do it. You have a pattern, you know.

    nk (1d9030)

  489. 511

    I think the Hitler Youth may have been part of the inspiration for the 1960 movie Village of the Damned.

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  490. And I see that now you can link. But why did you feel a need to lie about your age?

    nk (1d9030)

  491. We hate jews as much as you, lets make this clear:
    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/linda-sarsour-joe-biden-apology-muslim-vote

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  492. @511-
    It was based on The Midwich Cuckoos by John Wyndham.

    Rip Murdock (09b1a9)

  493. “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids” — Joe Biden

    A montage preview of the Biden/Trump debates.

    Imagine 3 debates with six hours or so of this.

    Enjoy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJGI1d96Ns

    Eyefull (fd0e2c)

  494. Democrats dont hate jews as most jews are democrats. They hate netanhayau and his corrupt policies and this includes jewish democrats.

    asset (af2c4e)

  495. Coming to a blue state or blue city speakeasy near you:

    http://news.yahoo.com/least-13-crushed-death-peru-081303715.html

    urbanleftbehind (37a98b)

  496. I’ll give Trump credit, and an extra helping of chocolate cake with ice cream, that he is making his Neo-Nazi, Neo-Confederate, America First chicken pluckers swallow their antisemitism and like it.

    nk (1d9030)

  497. Coming to a blue state or blue city speakeasy near you:

    It is what it is.

    Trump plagiarized that, BTW.

    nk (1d9030)

  498. Nk,

    who are the neo nazis you speak of? Any links?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  499. Now a days it would be a head shop, these soy zombies dont drink.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  500. Hes been doubling up on the oleander, rob, its crystal clear what were up against

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  501. 513.The other part of the story is that George Conway is leaving the Lincoln Project. What a concept, husband and wife both made compromises, and probably for the sakes of their kids.

    The stink of a his/her cable TV and radio gig is all over this one.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  502. I know narciso, it’s just disappointing that he was always a good commenter with an acerbic wit, but has decided to resort to libel and insults instead of good remarks.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  503. who are the neo nazis you speak of? Any links?

    You need a link for David Duke and his Boys From Charlottesville?

    nk (1d9030)

  504. Google’s your friend. Look him up in a Nazi uniform yourself.

    nk (1d9030)

  505. nk is hilarious and clearly doesn’t give two quarters of a rat’s ass what y’all think

    Dustin (4237e0)

  506. Also when he tells Trump, after the “fine people on both sides” remark: “We put you up there!”

    nk (1d9030)

  507. Charlottesville? Robert Spencer? The guy that endorsed Biden?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  508. Or Richard Spencer. Apologies to the conservative author Robert Spencer who has to share a name with that jerk.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  509. There’s also the matter of Trump lavishing praise on antisemitic conspiracy theorist and overall demented f_wit, Alex Jones.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  510. Just scrolled through that A-hole’s twitter thread and he seems to agree with you about everything nk.

    You might want to take a bath.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  511. Lurker,

    you cannot call Trump an anti-Semite and expect any degree of credibility. He’s done more for the stability of the ME and the legitimacy of the Jewish state than any president over the past 40 years. He’s also expanded a legitimacy to peace that was only a dream under the anti-Semite Obama’s reign. But you want his assistant back in power. Maybe have Israel’s leaders forced to come in through the side door again and then disrespected and ignored? Give Iran billions and help them build a nuke. That should be good for stability, right?

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  512. But I won’t hold Biden responsible for some racist bigot endorsing him as have many other racist bigots that support Biden.

    I will hold Biden accountable for trying to force Bernie Sanders platform on America and officially ending the American experiment and trying to destroy our country from within as Bezmenov said they would do.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  513. Have a good night.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  514. I will hold Biden accountable for trying to force Bernie Sanders platform on America and officially ending the American experiment and trying to destroy our country from within as Bezmenov said they would do.

    NJRob (eb56c3) — 8/23/2020 @ 10:58 pm

    He will be a bad president, but he probably can’t do all this. If he is bad enough, he will lose the house in two years. Each time one party screws up badly enough, the other goes nuts and loses the house pretty quickly. And there are other obstructions in our system, including the judiciary these days.

    Biden isn’t Bernie. He has tried to have it both ways on the centrism and pleasing the left, but Biden is really only a vote against Trump and he won’t really have a mandate to do that much. Presidents exceed their political mandate all the time, but it rarely works. Look at Obama, a brilliant politician, who had to ram Obamacare with every trick in the book, and it just barely happened.

    It’s a bad year. Some of that is political, some of it’s just bad luck, some of it is that Trump is bad at his job. I think some of it is that Trump is being blackmailed by Putin but I realize you think that’s nuts. But at the end of the day, it’s a bad year. It’s still a good time to be alive and the nation will prosper for a long time.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  515. 538.

    I never said he’s an antisemite. He just fluffs and panders to them. I’ve lost count of the number of Hitler-meming Jew haters he’s retweeted and refused to apologize for. And when he pretended not to know who David Duke was, Duke heard the dog whistle loud and clear. Just ask him. And he did fawn over notorious antisemite Alex Jones’ “amazing reputation” and promised not to let him down. And he told a Jewish audience they won’t vote for him because he doesn’t want their money. And when his campaign trafficked in antisemitic memes and imagery, Trump’s only regret was that a functionary had acceded to pressure and taken them down.

    But don’t get me wrong. His enthusiasm for feeding Jews to Jews haters doesn’t make him an antisemite. That would require him to have an ethos apart from his bottomless pathological craving for self-aggrandizement and enrichment. There’s simply no one he won’t throw under the bus if it profits him or they fail to display the requisite mewling fealty. But by all means do keep telling yourself he’s a real friend to Jews despite all the things he’s said and done that you’d be likening to Goebbels if a Democrat did them. I’m sure they somehow prove Obama’s antisemitism, who by the way in case you haven’t heard hasn’t been president since 2016.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  516. Damn. I knew I couldn’t come up with a remotely complete list off the top of my head, but can’t believe I forgot his defense of very fine people chanting (or at best marching next to people chanting) “Jews will not replace us.”

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  517. lurker, you made a good case. I don’t think a complete case can be made. Trump’s best defense is that it is basically not possible to adequately describe him.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  518. Why do I even bother responding to liars and mushbrains who support Trump mainly because the Migratory Bird Treaty Act is a federal law and he can give them a pardon for molesting ducks?

    I did not say Richard Spencer. Or Robert Spencer. Or Edmund Spenser, author of The Fairie Queene, BTW. I said David Duke.

    nk (1d9030)

  519. New evidence is out that Obama sent Eric Holder to meet with Robert Murdoch. Eric apparently told Murdoch to Muzzle O’Reilly over Bill’s critical coverage of Obama’s actions.

    Completely appropriate and proof that they had no respect for the free speech values that help make America great.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  520. I see what your did there, Time123, but nine out of ten of this brilliant commentariat, most of who are not awake yet, will not bother to click the link and they will take your comment literally.

    nk (1d9030)

  521. Oops, darn auto correct.

    Time123 (653992)

  522. it should be Completely inappropriate…

    Time123 (653992)

  523. Leave irony and satire to people who have the genetic trait for it, kid.

    nk (1d9030)

  524. Leave irony and satire to people who have the genetic trait for it, kid.

    nk (1d9030) — 8/24/2020 @ 5:59 am

    Sounds Racist 😉

    Time123 (653992)

  525. Spenser seems to have taken up the left corner square at cnn, much like bannon when he fed at mike woolfs table,

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  526. It is what it is, Time123.

    nk (1d9030)

  527. Great piece by Tim Alberta

    I think the part in bold is pretty obvious. I think he should be been explicit that when we talk about faith, modesty and family structure, were talking about western christian faith and definitions of modesty.

    If there is one principle driving Republican politicians today, it is that traditional American values—faith, patriotism, modesty, the nuclear family—are under siege. There is no use adjudicating this dispute or enumerating the ways in which Trump has himself undermined these ethics. Rather, what’s fascinating to observe is the shift in priorities and proportionality. What was once a source of annoyance and frustration for one sect of the party, social conservatives, has turned into the dominant lifeforce for the GOP. The good news for Republicans is that “grievance politics,” as Sasse describes it, continues to be highly effective in motivating their base. The bad news? It has diminishing returns when it comes to the many millions of persuadable voters in the middle. It’s also especially difficult for an incumbent party to sell grievance to the masses, as it amounts to a tacit acknowledgment of powerlessness.

    Time123 (653992)

  528. they were saying that as far back as nixon, now the party of rioters terrorists, is the alternative,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  529. Quit mincing words, Scott Adams…

    “Brain-Dead Race Hoaxer Joe Biden Is the Biggest Asshole In America“

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  530. portlands-rioters-weaponize-waste-as-the-violence-keeps-escalating

    They stole that from monkeys. Plagiarists!

    nk (1d9030)

  531. On the subject of weaponizing, what do the religious among you here think about the ethics of weaponizing crucifixes and holy water by vampire hunters?

    nk (1d9030)

  532. 312. Gawain’s Ghost

    Of all them, only Eric Boehm at Reason pointed out one glaring omission. The Democrats largely ignored the deleterious effects on the economy of Trump’s tariffs and trade wars.

    It’s an omission that wasn’t noted by most commentators.

    The reason is that Democrats are demagoguing on trade. too. In fact, they were doing it before Trump It’s not a litmus test in the party, though, but a lot of members of Congress do it. They’re not going to say that the logic of trade restriction is flawed. Immigration, yes, but they don’t go into details, but just praise the benefits of immigration in general and cite success stories. But they are not going to argue that trade is not a zero sum game.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  533. it’s his inner dogbert coming out,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  534. The peak of the hurricane season in the United States is about August 25 to September 1 or 2, and sure enough two hurricanes are headed toward the Gulf Coast almost simultaneously.

    It’s the third time since they;ve been keeping track of these things that 2 different hurricanes are scheduled to hit within (I think it is two days of each other.)

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  535. @558, it’s really unfair how hard it is for people to see the difference between you, a very fine person, and the hundreds of the Alt-Right that marched in Charlottesville carrying torches and chanting Nazi slogans.

    Everyone should work hard to understand the differences between Neo-Nazi, the KKK and people such as yourself that agree with them on a lot of issues for reasons, of ‘culture’ and ‘historical preservation’ that are totally pure.

    The fact that Trump spent most of his time in the press conference stressing that the left were just as bad as the Neo-Nazi and shared an equal part of the blame severely diminished his short statement of condemnation.

    The KKK, Alt-Right, and Neo-Nazi felt his statements were in their interest and were happy he went after the left also has relevance.

    Time123 (653992)

  536. The reason is that Democrats are demagoguing on trade. too. In fact, they were doing it before Trump It’s not a litmus test in the party, though, but a lot of members of Congress do it. They’re not going to say that the logic of trade restriction is flawed. Immigration, yes, but they don’t go into details, but just praise the benefits of immigration in general and cite success stories. But they are not going to argue that trade is not a zero sum game.

    If re-word the rhetoric to be really bland what warren wanted to do and what trump wanted to do are pretty similar WRT to trade.

    Time123 (653992)

  537. Great planning by the state of California. They released many prisoners considered less dangerous. That included many of those who work as firefighters. They didn’t attempt to retain them at full pay.

    So they have less trained people to fight fires.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  538. about 20 people, vs thousands of black bloc including red neck revolt, the wannabe proletarian militias, the ones who rampaged all across the nation three years ago,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  539. 542. lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/23/2020 @ 11:51 pm

    I never said he’s an antisemite. He just fluffs and panders to them.

    And Biden is afraid of alienating anti-semites who might support him.

    His late so Beau married a woman who was at least technically, Jewish (her mother was Jewish) and his children are, or could be, Jews. his other son, Hunter, is currently married to a Jew (who was astripper) His daughter married a Jew.

    Yet he never talks about it, and I bet you didn’t know it.

    There are some other reasons for not talking about it. Very religious people, of different kinds, might not like the answers to what if any religions they practice.

    Donald Trump. on the other hand, doesn’t hide the fact that his daughter converted to Judaism probably in order to marry Jared Kushner. His oldest son ex-wife had a stepfather who was Jewish. Eric Trump’s wife, Lara Yunaska, is NOT Jewish although they adopted some Jewish elements in their wedding ceremony.

    I’ve lost count of the number of Hitler-meming Jew haters he’s retweeted and refused to apologize for. And when he pretended not to know who David Duke was, Duke heard the dog whistle loud and clear. Just ask him. And he did fawn over notorious antisemite Alex Jones’ “amazing reputation” and promised not to let him down. And he told a Jewish audience they won’t vote for him because he doesn’t want their money. And when his campaign trafficked in antisemitic memes and imagery, Trump’s only regret was that a functionary had acceded to pressure and taken them down.

    But don’t get me wrong. His enthusiasm for feeding Jews to Jews haters doesn’t make him an antisemite. That would require him to have an ethos apart from his bottomless pathological craving for self-aggrandizement and enrichment. There’s simply no one he won’t throw under the bus if it profits him or they fail to display the requisite mewling fealty. But by all means do keep telling yourself he’s a real friend to Jews despite all the things he’s said and done that you’d be likening to Goebbels if a Democrat did them. I’m sure they somehow prove Obama’s antisemitism, who by the way in case you haven’t heard hasn’t been president since 2016.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  540. I’ve lost count of the number of Hitler-meming Jew haters he’s retweeted and refused to apologize for.

    Trump retweets support almost indiscriminately.

    And when he pretended not to know who David Duke was, Duke heard the dog whistle loud and clear.

    They’re doing it to help themselves not Trump. And to make sure that their adherents don’t just become Trumpists, they always say rump is closer to them but not good.

    There is of course some resonance, with Trump’s contempt for people and disregard of their interest. Trmp apparet;y thinks everybody sees tings as azero sum game and is selfish.

    Just ask him. And he did fawn over notorious antisemite Alex Jones’ “amazing reputation” and promised not to let him down.

    IS Alex Jones really known as an anti-semite? And is he one?

    And he told a Jewish audience they won’t vote for him because he doesn’t want their money.

    I thought what he did, at a fundraiser, was praise their skill at business.

    And when his campaign trafficked in antisemitic memes and imagery, Trump’s only regret was that a functionary had acceded to pressure and taken them down.

    You’ll have to go into detail here.

    But don’t get me wrong. His enthusiasm for feeding Jews to Jews haters doesn’t make him an antisemite. That would require him to have an ethos apart from his bottomless pathological craving for self-aggrandizement and enrichment. There’s simply no one he won’t throw under the bus if it profits him or they fail to display the requisite mewling fealty. But by all means do keep telling yourself he’s a real friend to Jews despite all the things he’s said and done that you’d be likening to Goebbels if a Democrat did them. I’m sure they somehow prove Obama’s antisemitism, who by the way in case you haven’t heard hasn’t been president since 2016

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  541. Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827) — 8/23/2020 @ 3:06 pm

    So, for the last 5 months there was an emergency use authorization for convalescent plasma and has been used to treat patients for Covid. Last week the FDA removed it because the data came back and it didn’t seem to help much

    It depends on what kind of questions you ask. Of course, it helps.

    On the other hand it is not actually 100% safe, because a transfusion can carry with it an infection not necessarily avery serious one, and maybe does one in three or four times.and they can’t screen everything out. But that’s true of all blood transfusions.

    in the 70,000 uses of it so far. Sunday, Trump trots out and says it’s a new and game changing treatment, the same treatment that’s been used for months, but he’s signing an order that “says” it’s a game changer.

    Every news story treats announcements this way. Trump said it would have taken maybe two years if they let the normal course of things go on.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  542. And herr is how the New York Tomes main headline on the front page of the printed paper reads:

    STUNG BY TRUMP
    F.D.A. AUTHORIZES
    PLASMA THERAPY

    —————–
    NO RANDOMIZED TRIALS
    ——————
    Agency Was Accused
    ‘Deep State” Delay
    Tied to Election.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  543. 564. It depends on exactly what your religious beliefs are.

    This is wrong.

    And shouldn’t they do a controlled study to determine which amulets work?

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  544. Kellyanne Conway quit and her husband George Conway also quit his activity in the anti-Trump Lincoln Project.

    She said something like it was to spend more attention to her family and they are linking it to her 15-year old daughter petitioning for emancipation because she doesn’t want to be associated with Donald Trump. It’s causing her to lose friends or not make them or something like that. That’s sort of what comes across.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  545. em>And shouldn’t they do a controlled study to determine which amulets work?

    No. Testing weapons on captured enemy forces or enemy civilians, a necessity for a controlled study, would be entirely unethical, we don’t even need to think about it.

    Only in actual battle, such as this for example.

    nk (1d9030)

  546. They won’t be using convalescent plasma very much in a few months because they’ll be using neutralizing monoclonal antibodies instead.

    Although you can’t be sure if Biden is elected president.

    You notice Trump is close to being accused of corrupting the process to get easier and cheaper use of convalescent plasma authorized. It’s only a very limited intervention and he should do much more.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  547. bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/24/2020 @ 7:00 am

    Sounds like the kid brought a Pez dispenser to a gunfight. I hope he learns the right lesson from this, but it is more likely that he’ll be mined, cut and polished for future use.

    felipe (023cc9)

  548. No Qualified Immunity for Kentucky Cops Who Strip-Searched a 4-Year-Old and Threatened Mom

    CPS does good work. I have a friend who has made her career in social work. Her normal days are terrible. Her bad days at work are the stuff of nightmares.

    That said; it’s as true in CPS as it is anywhere else that the people sworn to uphold the laws will from time to time make mistakes. Those mistakes need to be corrected, and actions taken to do better systemically in the future. The fact that KY didn’t want to admit that the actions in this case weren’t warranted needs to be addressed.

    Time123 (653992)

  549. nk (1d9030) — 8/24/2020 @ 8:12 am

    Here is nk, once again, showcasing his genetic gifts. Poor Sammy, I saw this coming a lie away!

    felipe (023cc9)

  550. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/aug/27/joe-biden/biden-wrong-when-he-says-trump-hasnt-condemned-dav/

    Even left wing Polifact says you’re wrong nk. But keep claiming otherwise.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  551. @314

    Second article Aug 9
    You have an itchy trigger finger

    My finger’s fine, Eyefull. By most accounts, you need at least 60% of the populace to be either immune or vaccinated, when the reality is that Sweden is only at around 15%. As for your link, some idiot spoke to a daily tabloid, remarking that a country contained the virus and made the illogical leap that the country achieved herd immunity. The fact is that they’re not even close. The reality is that Swedes heard their government’s counsel and took individual responsibility by practicing social distancing, thus containing it.

    Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/23/2020 @ 8:08 am

    It depends on the virus.

    You can achieve herd immunity with just 20% of the population immune/vaccinated. Most pulmonary retro-virus (ie, common flu/colds) are like that.

    We’ll know for sure if Sweden made the right call in the next cold season in a few months.

    whembly (c30c83)

  552. https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/08/24/report-joe-bidens-campaign-apologies-to-anti-semite-linda-sarsour-tries-to-play-both-sides/

    But since we’re speaking of anti-Semites, Biden decides that he’d rather cozy up with them than risk losing votes.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  553. Here is one of the better analyses I’ve come across about the complete degradation of the Republican party.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/24/republicanmeltdown-trump-convention-400039

    And here is one of the more acute renderings of the upcoming Republican convention.

    https://reason.com/2020/08/24/the-2020-republican-convention-doesnt-have-a-platform-it-has-trumps-pet-peeves/

    The conservative-libertarian movement within the GOP, which Buckley started, back when The National Review was an intelligently written publication, and Reagan brought to national attention, is now dead, divorced, kaput. Conservatives are no longer conservative, not in the traditional sense. I admit that most Libertarians are a bunch of kooks, which is why I have never actually joined the Libertarian party or donated to any Libertarian candidate, although I have voted for a few as a means of protest against the two-party system. The Democrats have taken the plunge into the socialism morass, but that in no way compares to the leap the Republicans have taken into the Trump sewage.

    The only real conservatives seek to conserve the Republic, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The only real liberals seek to preserve liberty (the absence of tyranny) and freedom (individual rights), embodied in the Bill of Rights. Only libertarians–that is, classical liberals–seek to do both.

    The rest is anarchy, petty squabbling, name-calling, and juvenile insult-throwing.

    It is literally astounding to me how far the United States have fallen over the course of my lifetime, but specifically in just the last few years. This is not the America I grew up in, and the current concoction or mess is so deformed and incoherent as to be unrecognizable from what previous generations strived to build and realize. It has been a struggle over the centuries, that I will not deny, but at least we, as a country, were moving toward a better future, and leading the world in the process.

    May God have mercy on our souls. Future generations certainly won’t. Liberty, freedom, prosperity, equality, once lost, is very difficult to recover, after you’ve thrown it away.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  554. @583, that link really makes it clear how reluctant Trump is to offend his White Nationalist supporters.

    Trump didn’t condemn Duke when asked about him in an interview with Tapper on CNN in 2016. But decades before, he had clearly condemned the former KKK leader — and he did so after the Tapper interview, too. Some of his disavowals have been brief.

    We can’t find an example of Trump condemning Spencer by name or being asked to do so, but he has criticized gatherings where Spencer, a white nationalist, played a major role, including Charlottesville.

    But Trump has at times detracted from his own denunciation of racism. Most notably, Trump said there were “very fine people, on both sides” at the Charlottesville march. At other times his denunciations have seemed reluctantly made. But he has made them.

    Time123 (653992)

  555. https://www.boston.com/sports/nfl/2020/08/23/nfl-has-77-apparently-false-positive-covid-19-tests-from-lab

    False positives are all the rage. But they’ve been going on in NJ for months to allow our dictator free reign and to bankrupt as many businesses as possible and enslave the populace to the state.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  556. Time,

    it’s a left wing link and focuses on trying to put Trump in the worst possible light. But even it admits what nk claims is false. It’s like quoting the NY Times to disprove the left. When even they admit the left is full of it, you know it must be bad.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  557. Spencer endorsed Biden. Enjoy that one.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  558. NJRob, Looking at excess deaths NJ has been ‘normal’ since about Mid-June. I think you’re right about the risk there at the moment. Not to say that a change in behaviors couldn’t change performance.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  559. I’ll give Trump credit, and an extra helping of chocolate cake with ice cream, that he is making his Neo-Nazi, Neo-Confederate, America First chicken pluckers swallow their antisemitism and like it.

    nk (1d9030) — 8/23/2020 @ 8:59 pm

    Learn English!

    nk (1d9030)

  560. @513

    The other part of the story is that George Conway is leaving the Lincoln Project. What a concept, husband and wife both made compromises, and probably for the sakes of their kids.

    Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/23/2020 @ 8:08 pm

    Okay now I believe that there’s some truth here. Usually, “spend time with family” is DC speak that someone dun’f’ed up and I’m getting outta here.

    The Conways stepping back from politics like this seems that George and Kellyanne *are* doing this for the sake of their family.

    whembly (c30c83)

  561. @591, I saw that. Scott Adams endorsed Hillary in 2016. I didn’t believe that was sincere and I don’t think this is sincere. Spencer know’s people have concluded that Alt Right are racist and gross.

    Regardless here’s what the Biden Campaign had to say. Note that it’s prompt, clear, and unequivocal.

    A spokesperson for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden rejected an endorsement from alt-right figure Richard Spencer late Sunday evening, calling the white nationalist’s views “absolutely repugnant.”

    “When Joe Biden says we are in a battle for the soul of our nation against vile forces of hate who have come crawling out from under rocks, you are the epitome of what he means. What you stand for is absolutely repugnant. Your support is 10,000% percent unwelcome here,” Andrew Bates, the director of rapid response for Biden’s campaign, tweeted.

    Time123 (653992)

  562. @594, Do you think this will impede their point/counterpoint style cable show in 2021?

    Time123 (dba73f)

  563. @538

    Lurker,

    you cannot call Trump an anti-Semite and expect any degree of credibility. He’s done more for the stability of the ME and the legitimacy of the Jewish state than any president over the past 40 years. He’s also expanded a legitimacy to peace that was only a dream under the anti-Semite Obama’s reign. But you want his assistant back in power. Maybe have Israel’s leaders forced to come in through the side door again and then disrespected and ignored? Give Iran billions and help them build a nuke. That should be good for stability, right?

    NJRob (eb56c3) — 8/23/2020 @ 10:49 pm

    Also his daughter and grandbabies are Jewish as well.

    There’s old stories that Trump encouraged his Jewish employees to take time off for Jewish holidays and observe shabbat.

    whembly (c30c83)

  564. We’ll know for sure if Sweden made the right call in the next cold season in a few months.
    whembly (c30c83) — 8/24/2020 @ 8:40 am

    I like this display of patience.

    felipe (023cc9)

  565. @543

    Damn. I knew I couldn’t come up with a remotely complete list off the top of my head, but can’t believe I forgot his defense of very fine people chanting (or at best marching next to people chanting) “Jews will not replace us.”

    lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/24/2020 @ 12:02 am

    He condemned them in that same speech.

    whembly (c30c83)

  566. @599, He waited several days to condemn them and spent most of that conference attacked the left and drawing an equivalence with the neo nazi and the left.

    Honestly I just think the most important thing to trump is how someone feels about him. If a terrible person who wants terrible things (e.g. Richard Spencer or David Duke) says nice things about trump and is useful to him than Trump will not willingly criticize them.

    Trump may or may not like the KKK or Neo-Nazi but if they’re pro trump he’s not going to go after them.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  567. @600… yes, I remember he didn’t address it a little more immediate and that’s a fair criticism. He kept hemming, hawwing when asked by stating that “we don’t have all the facts to comment”.

    In fairness, I preferred he held his “fire” until the facts are known as I didn’t want a repeat of knee-jerk reactions like what Obama did over Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown ordeal, as his response undoubtedly fueled the outrage.

    However, it’s indisputable that when Trump did comment on it, he DID condemn them in the same speech when he was talking about there with some good folks on both sides. By context he was talking about other folks, not the nazi crowd.

    This is primo example of how Trump sustains the #FakeNews narrative.

    Trump may or may not like the KKK or Neo-Nazi but if they’re pro trump he’s not going to go after them.
    Time123 (dba73f) — 8/24/2020 @ 9:08 am

    Welcome to every politician… ever.

    whembly (c30c83)

  568. @601, Biden rejected Spencers endorsement pretty quickly and Thoroughly.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  569. It’s actually common for politician to reject money and endorsement from scum.

    Being afraid to do that is part of what makes Trump worse.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  570. @602 Good for him. (Sincerely).

    Now will he disavow BLM, a Marxist organization?

    Will he disavow the anti-semtism of the Squad?

    We can play this disavowal game… which, in “gotcha” politics I despise…

    Need I say more?

    whembly (c30c83)

  571. Has Kamala Harris (and other Democratic elites) disavowed Harvey Weinstein?

    whembly (c30c83)

  572. Now will he disavow BLM, a Marxist organization?

    regarding Kamala Harris

    Sen. Kamala Harris will donate the $5,000 in contributions that she received from Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein to charity.

    In light of news reported Thursday by the New York Times outlining decades of alleged sexual harassment by Weinstein, some Democrats are giving away donations they received from the Hollywood mogul. Those who have not have been criticized by the Republican National Committee.

    I think they would dispute that assertion about BLM but that’s what makes this more than just a Gotcha thing. Finding out where they draw the line between “Flawed with a good point” and “Too flawed to associate with”

    Time123 (dba73f)

  573. Now will he disavow BLM, a Marxist organization?

    Why should he? To placate people who would never vote for him in the first place?

    nk (1d9030)

  574. @601, Biden rejected Spencers endorsement pretty quickly and Thoroughly.

    Time123 (dba73f) — 8/24/2020 @ 9:21 am

    Biden’s campaign initially did just like they did Linda Sarsour. But then they quietly went back to Sarsour and apologized. Wonder if they’ll do the same with Spencer. After all, they’re both pushing the socialist agenda.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  575. https://www.outkick.com/florida-and-new-york-examining-a-media-coronavirus-narrative-failure

    Another excellent piece from Outkick showing how the media lies to cover for leftist failures and blame Republicans even when they drastically outperform expectations.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  576. #587: Wondering if this is the first time in history that a major American political party has declared its official platform to be: We love Dear Leader and unconditionally support whatever he chooses to do.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  577. Another excellent piece from Outkick showing how the media lies to cover for leftist failures and blame Republicans even when they drastically outperform expectations.

    Generate massive fear, and when the chimera does not materialize take credit. Trump is good at that. Real, real, real good.

    nk (1d9030)

  578. More Family Values for evangelical leaders

    Giancarlo Granda says he was 20 when he met Jerry and Becki Falwell while working as a pool attendant at the Fontainebleau Miami Beach hotel in March 2012. Starting that month and continuing into 2018, Granda told Reuters that the relationship involved him having sex with Becki Falwell while Jerry Falwell looked on.

    Granda showed Reuters emails, text messages and other evidence that he says demonstrate the sexual nature of his relationship with the couple, who have been married since 1987. “Becki and I developed an intimate relationship and Jerry enjoyed watching from the corner of the room,” Granda said in an interview. Now 29, he described the liaisons as frequent – “multiple times per year” – and said the encounters took place at hotels in Miami and New York, and at the Falwells’ home in Virginia.

    I don’t care what anyone does in their private life. But the fact that they were violating rules they enforced on strictly on others bothers me.

    Today, the university boasts an online and on-campus enrollment that exceeds 100,000 students and holds those who attend to an exacting honor code. “Sexual relations outside of a biblically ordained marriage between a natural-born man and a natural-born woman are not permissible at Liberty University,”

    Time123 (dba73f)

  579. Biden’s campaign initially did just like they did Linda Sarsour. But then they quietly went back to Sarsour and apologized. Wonder if they’ll do the same with Spencer. After all, they’re both pushing the socialist agenda.

    NJRob (eb56c3) — 8/24/2020 @ 10:04 am

    Would be reprehensible if Biden partnered with that Alt-Right racist.

    Do you have a link to him walking back with Linda Sarsour? I saw an article on red-state but it didn’t link to a primary new article and I’d like to no more.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  580. 612. Don’t believe it any more than you believed Tara Reade, Time123. Here’s one more red flag in addition to “pool attendant”.

    Granda showed Reuters emails, text messages and other evidence that he says demonstrate the sexual nature of his relationship with the couple, who have been married since 1987.

    Reuters saw them, but they are not saying it.

    nk (1d9030)

  581. @615, thank you for linking it. I read it and will be curious to see where they go from here. Looks like they’re trying to thread the needle. Publicly disavow a vocal anti-semite and privately tell people that like her that they’re sorry they trashed someone you like. Pretty weak on their part IMO.

    Time123 (653992)

  582. @614, Pretty clear they’re trying to keep all the words in the mouth of the person making the claim. Which is smart given all the performative libel claims that have been filed lately.

    Time123 (653992)

  583. Well, I don’t believe him. He’s nothing but trash, and the Falwells had too much to lose to expose themselves to his ilk. If, and that’s a big if, they swung that way, they’d find like-minded people in their own circle who also had too much to lose to not keep the relationship discreet.

    nk (1d9030)

  584. equivalence with the neo nazi and the left.

    neo-nazis and antifa are equivalent in my book. All rotters that the world would be a much better place without.

    Colonel Haiku (5243a2)

  585. 573. IS Alex Jones really known as an anti-semite? And is he one?

    ALEX JONES (HOST): Oh but its okay because the Emanuels [Ari, Ezekiel, Rahm] are liberals. This is a guy who famously in the Clinton administration whenever they were talking about Democrats that weren’t doing what they were told, that would take a knife at the table and start stabbing it, breaking the table, breaking the knife screaming death, murder, [unintelligible noise]. Just start, in front of everyone — and then when he [unintelligible] on the sidelines during the Clinton administration, with Obama, in the first administration is what I meant to get to. He would then tell Obama to shut up in cabinet meetings, I’m in command. And Obama would do what he said.

    ‘Cause let me tell you, the Emanuels are mafia. And you know I was thinking, they’re always trying to claim that if I talk about world government and corruption I’m anti-Semitic, there’s mafias of all different stripes and groups but since you want to talk about it, the Emanuels are Jewish mafia. So there you go. But, I mean it’s not that Jews are bad, it’s just they are the head of the Jewish mafia in the United States. They run Uber, they run the health care, they’re going to scam you, they’re going to hurt you.

    And then they got weirdos that they’re allied with like George Soros who’s a literal Nazi collaborator, and then you’ve got Madeleine Albright who’s a Nazi collaborator, her dad was, rounding up Jews, I mean it’s like, if being against Jews that are weirdo Nazi collaborators and gangsters makes me anti-Semitic then fine. I’m not against Jews, but at a certain point, when you people call you out, I’ve been called out in hundreds of newspapers in the last month, as being anti-Semitic, because I talk about a global, corporate, combine.

    Well why are you labeling the TPP Jewish, I mean it’s got Jews involved in it just like it’s got everybody else. It’s communist Chinese, global government, Japan, I mean all these groups — but again, I’m gonna skip this break, it’s injected into it that you must be anti-Semetic. So, I was just sitting back and — let me then, I guess I better do some exposes on the Jewish mafia. And a guy foaming at the mouth with knives at cabinet meetings, basically threatening the president. Totally crazed. Who’s got his fingers in everything, screwing us over. I mean, how do you come up with this stuff? Where does this come from? Why? It’s disgusting.

    To my Trumpist relatives who apparently believe an antisemite is a Reform Jew who voted for Obama, Stone may be a veritable Judeophile. But me? Yeah, I’m going with antisemite.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  586. 595… details, details…

    Why I Switched My Endorsement from Clinton to Trump
    Posted September 25, 2016 in: #Clinton, #Trump

    As most of you know, I had been endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, for my personal safety, because I live in California. It isn’t safe to be a Trump supporter where I live. And it’s bad for business too. But recently I switched my endorsement to Trump, and I owe you an explanation. So here it goes.

    https://www.scottadamssays.com/2016/09/25/why-i-switched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  587. 621. Doh! Just noticed that for unknown reasons I typed “Stone” instead of “Jones.” I have no idea if Roger Stone is an antisemite, not that it would shock me. I was referring, I hope obviously, to Alex Jones, of (paraphrasing) “the Jewish Mafia which runs health care and Uber are out to get you” fame.

    Maybe I’m going senile, which would explain why I never leave my basement to campaign.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  588. 573/ I still included quite from somebody else in my post. Everything frm “But don’t get me wrong.”is not mine.”

    I do;t think Trump is looking for support from Jew haters – what it is is he likes anything that supports him and can retweet it. He dies;t think about how many people are followers of that person.

    Sammy Finkelman (db2a13)

  589. lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/24/2020 @ 4:45 pm

    Alex Jones, of (paraphrasing) “the Jewish Mafia which runs health care and Uber are out to get you” fame.

    I didn’t know that.

    But if he did that, it;;s just one of the fale cospiracy theories he plagiarized.

    He’s not a consistent anti-semite.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  590. Leaves are falling on the ground. (not too fast)

    It’s only August 25.

    I don’t know what kind of trees these are in the park.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0)

  591. Are they watering them, Sammy? That’s how trees die in the summer. From drought.

    nk (1d9030)

  592. @622 Can i interest you in this bridge I have for sale?

    Time123 (f5cf77)

  593. @627

    Leaves are falling on the ground. (not too fast)

    It’s only August 25.

    I don’t know what kind of trees these are in the park.

    Sammy Finkelman (86c6e0) — 8/25/2020 @ 7:04 am

    Iliza Shlesinger: “It’s fall mother F’er!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=9wJ-zm1aVZM

    Great stand up…lol.

    whembly (c30c83)

  594. We have a home Covid test that will cost $5. Less than a pregnancy test.

    DRJ (aede82)


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