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8/12/2020

In Which I Agree With Trump, But…

Filed under: General — Dana @ 2:50 pm



[guest post by Dana]

It’s never clean bill of goods when I agree with Trump. Consider that yesterday, during an interview on Fox Sports Radio, President Trump took the NBA to task for their support of China:

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While I agree that the NBA is shameful in their refusal to denounce China and its imprisonment and attempted genocide of the Uighurs, it’s painfully clear that their business interests continue to take precedence over any pesky human rights violations. This even as they wear pre-approved social justice slogans on their jerseys (none of which mention China or the Uighurs).

However, Trump loses me because he has also publicly called on professional sports teams to suspend or even fire players who choose to kneel during the national anthem, and worse, he has suggested that those kneeling should not be in the country. He seems to believe that the federal government should be determining how professional sports franchises handle the decisions made by their players.

Moreover:

Trump also criticized NBA players kneeling for the national anthem in protest of racial inequality, calling them “very, very nasty and, frankly, very dumb.”

The president called NBA players “disgraceful” last week for kneeling during the anthem.

–Dana

109 Responses to “In Which I Agree With Trump, But…”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (292df6)

  2. meh…

    Hockey is better. 😉

    Seriously though, government should butt here. Just let the public voice displeasure.

    whembly (c30c83)

  3. They have allegiance to china, they traim around a concentration camp, not to say what chinese feel about blacks, yes they supported the likes of robert williams (radio free dixie) but still.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  4. Politicians should butt out of sports, and sports should butt out of politics.

    Let’s remember which happened first.

    beer ‘n pretzels (a67981)

  5. Long time fan, but they’ve lost me and are close to losing both of my superfan sone.

    College B-ball is much more enjoyable for me… when they’re able to play.

    Colonel Haiku (167584)

  6. Make that sons

    Colonel Haiku (167584)

  7. “Let’s remember which happened first.”

    May 15, 1862. The first time “Star Spangled Banner” was played at a sporting event.

    Davethulhu (a9ecac)

  8. Trump gave Xi a big thumbs-up on his Uighur concentration camps, so his bloviations on this subject should be taken with the same seriousness as all the rest. Which is to say: none at all.

    Dave (1bb933)

  9. Capitalism does have an ugly paradox. Sports are a popular entertainment product which garners yugggggge ratings — and yuggggge revenues. Viewed through that mindset, Trump knows his target audience well — and how to reach them– and rile them up.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  10. Trump doesn’t care about free speech, human rights in China, or who does what with the national anthem. Trump cares about Trump. If he’s talking about one of these things it’s because he thinks it helps him. If the thing he says makes sense in some way it’s because a million monkeys on a million keyboards will eventually produce something that looks purposeful. Apparent intelligence is the product of blind chance. Finding a inconsistency is like faulting the monkey for failing to use the oxford comma. It might mean something to you, but the monkey neither knows nor cares.

    Time123 (66d88c)

  11. However, Trump loses me because he has also publicly called on professional sports teams to suspend or even fire players who choose to kneel during the national anthem, and worse, he has suggested that those kneeling should not be in the country. He seems to believe that the federal government should be determining how professional sports franchises handle the decisions made by their players.

    I read both articles you linked and did not see anything that suggests that Trump called on the federal government to do anything. Did I miss something?

    BuDuh (729cf5)

  12. Thats what weve been doing for nearly nearly 50 years since nixon hugged mao, and he left us to babysit the khmer rouge.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  13. If he’s talking about one of these things it’s because he thinks it helps him.

    Let’s pretend that is true. If Trump is self centered and takes action on an issue that “helps him” but a consequence of that action is it also helps many others, could you live with the outcome?

    BuDuh (729cf5)

  14. If Trump is self centered and takes action on an issue that “helps him” but a consequence of that action is it also helps many others, could you live with the outcome?

    It would re-emphasize the importance of removing him from office, because – in his heedless pursuit of self-interest – he will harm many others as often as he accidentally helps them.

    Dave (1bb933)

  15. Finding a inconsistency is like faulting the monkey for failing to use the oxford comma.

    covfefe

    Dave (1bb933)

  16. Trump to Relax Rules for Showers After Complaints About Flow

    The U.S. Energy Department proposed easing water efficiency requirements for shower heads Wednesday following multiple complaints from President Donald Trump about how low water flow is impeding his ability to properly wash his hair.
    ……
    The rule comes after Trump has railed against shower heads that go “drip, drip, drip,” as well as low-flow toilets and faucets among other appliances.

    “You turn on the shower — if you’re like me, you can’t wash your beautiful hair properly,” Trump said this month during a visit to a Whirlpool Corp. manufacturing plant in Ohio. “You waste 20 minutes longer. Please come out. The water — it drips, right?”
    …..
    Obligatory Seinfeld reference.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  17. White House clarifies limits of jobless aid plan as talks with Congress dim

    President Trump’s senior aides acknowledged on Tuesday that they are providing less financial assistance for the unemployed than the president initially advertised amid mounting blowback from state officials of both parties.
    …..
    By Tuesday, senior White House officials were saying publicly that the maneuver only guarantees an extra $300 per week for unemployed Americans — with states not required to add anything to their existing state benefit programs to qualify for the federal benefit.
    ……
    “$400. Okay? So, that’s generous, but we want to take care of our people,” the president said. “Under this plan, states will be able to offer greater benefits if they so choose, and the federal government will cover 75 percent of the cost. So we’re all set up. It’s $400 per week.”
    ……
    The White House guidance means all states will probably be able to implement the program without spending new money on aid. It also means people on unemployment will see their benefit effectively cut from $600 to $300 — a 50 percent reduction — rather than from $600 to $400.
    ……
    Under Trump’s directive, the federal government may only have enough money to pay the enhanced $300 benefits for about five weeks. After that, it would be up to states entirely to cover perhaps billions of dollars in unemployment aid using their own money, creating a financial headache for those that are anticipating multibillion-dollar budget shortfalls as a result of the pandemic. …..
    …….
    Promises broken!

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  18. Agreed, Dana. The few times Trump is right about something, there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging it, and Trump is right that the NBA have collectively been cowards in the face of China. It doesn’t take long (usually just a few hours) before another Trump idiocy comes up.

    Paul Montagu (c280e0)

  19. May 15, 1862. The first time “Star Spangled Banner” was played at a sporting event.

    The NBA is free to change it to “Dixie” anytime for you, Davethulhu.

    beer ‘n pretzels (517248)

  20. So I take it that the Kushners and that includes Ivanka will no longer be doing business with China?

    nk (1d9030)

  21. Talking the talk isn’t the problem.

    We saw this in 2016. If Trump had actually governed like he sometimes said he would I’d be his biggest fan. We didn’t get immigration reform, a balanced budget, an end to wars, better healthcare.

    All seventeen of my MAGA hats and both of my TRUMP flags have ‘made in China’ printed on the label. Walk the walk.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  22. So I take it that the Kushners and that includes Ivanka will no longer be doing business with China?

    You’re not supposed to bring that up, nk.

    Dana (292df6)

  23. A proposed NBA uniform slogan: “Uighur Lives Matter.”

    Gary Hoffman (2a3a16)

  24. 21.So I take it that the Kushners and that includes Ivanka will no longer be doing business with China?

    Sorta like NASA not doing business w/Roscosmos…

    And Putin smiled.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  25. R.I.P. Sumner Redstone

    Media magnate.

    Met him. Helluva fella.

    Roll credits; fade to black…

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  26. Did Carter embargo U.S. wheat sales to Russia when it Afghanistan or only U.S. Olympic contestants? They’re all a bunch of thespians.

    nk (1d9030)

  27. when it *invaded* Afghanistan

    They had to start a conversation about typos on the Chicago thread.

    nk (1d9030)

  28. And speaking of idiocy, there’s a technical term for Trump’s four executive orders last Saturday: They’re a f*cking mess.

    Paul Montagu (c280e0)

  29. It’s not just the Kushners, but items from Trump’s line of menswear are made in China, as well as miscellaneous items from the Trump Organization store. I wrote about it here.

    Dana (292df6)

  30. “ R.I.P. Sumner Redstone”
    _

    “Content is king“
    _

    harkin (820854)

  31. @14, absolutely. I’ll take lucky or good. The only problem with lucky is that luck doesn’t last.

    Time123 (9f42ee)

  32. And speaking of idiocy, there’s a technical term for Trump’s four executive orders last Saturday: They’re a f*cking mess.

    So when would one of these go into effect, I mean there must be a target date, for one, surely? There’s a plan I’m sure, wait is plan a four letter word?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  33. So when would one of these go into effect, I mean there must be a target date, for one, surely? There’s a plan I’m sure, wait is plan a four letter word?

    Funny. Good to see you back, Klink.

    Dana (292df6)

  34. A Klink sighting!
    Since “in which I don’t agree with Trump” is so much more prevalent, last June our president insinuated that a 75-year old Buffalo protester was some sort of “ANTIFA provocateur”, which was reported by a literal Russian propagandist who works for both Sputnik and OAN because, at OAN, “we like Russia“.
    It was all a lie; Mr. Gugino was released from the hospital on June 30, almost four weeks after sustaining his injuries and, by the accounts from the people who know him, he’s your typical harmless hippie protester/activist.
    Today, OAN correspondent Ms. Rion asked Trump about Antifa.com and how the website redirects to the Biden campaign. Problem is, the site was registered in the Russian Federation in 2013, anonymously registered. The site is now dark.
    Ms. Rion at OAN also gave Giuliani a leg up in Ukraine, and their “documentary” about Biden was filled with sketchy Russia-linked sources. I’m not saying Ms. Rion is a Russian agent, but she behaves like a Russian agent.

    Paul Montagu (c280e0)

  35. Trump is worthless and should not be President, but the problem now is that after that other worthlessness picked Kamala Harris to be President possibly before he’s even sworn in, anything bad Trump says or does is twisting the knife in the guts of every sentient American. It’s not a binary choice. Kamala will be exponentially worse than Trump.

    nk (1d9030)

  36. More on Ms. Rion, or is it Ms. Dayn-Ryan? The rundown…

    ▪ Chanel Rion is the pro-Trump journalist for conservative network OAN, which was removed from White House briefings for her refusal to socially distance
    ▪ She was promptly re-invited by then press secretary Stephanie Grisham and Trump again invited her to ask a question – and has been back twice since
    ▪ DailyMail.com reveals new questions over how the 29-year-old is allowed into the White House
    ▪ She was born Chanel Dyan-Ryan and only changed her last name legally last year when she applied for a ‘hard pass’ for the White House
    ▪ For years she had no obvious employment but posed in designer dresses and at expensive vacation venues
    ▪ She describes herself as a Harvard graduate but actually enrolled in Harvard’s Extension School where entry requirements are much lower
    ▪ She claimed to be part of Trump’s 2016 campaign but a senior Republican told DailyMail.com they had no memory of her
    Rion appears to have visited New Hampshire with her brother and sister and was photographed in front of a Chris Christie sign
    ▪ Her fiance, a combat veteran who servied in Iraq, ran for Senate in a Republican primary in Missouri as Courtland Sykes but his real first name is Bob

    Hi, my name is Bob, but call me Courtland. Her dad is a shyster Texas real estate guy who changed his name at least a handful of times.
    Unsurprisingly, Ms. Rion is also a Seth Rich and Pizzagate conspiracy nut, among numerous other nutty things.

    Paul Montagu (c280e0)

  37. And I have a newly sprouted sympathy for Trump’s wives.

    nk (1d9030)

  38. Kamala will be exponentially worse than Trump.

    Unpossible.

    Dave (1bb933)

  39. She was elected statewide in California, for crying out loud! Twice!

    nk (1d9030)

  40. So when would one of these go into effect

    In two weeks when he rolls out his very comprehensive and incredible health care plan.

    It’s going to be tremendous, believe me.

    Dave (1bb933)

  41. Twice!

    Three times, actually.

    But who’s counting?

    Dave (1bb933)

  42. Kamala will be exponentially worse than Trump.

    Vice President Harris, nah.
    If VP Harris becomes P Harris after Biden has an “episode”, I doubt it. Trump is already bottom three in American history, which would be tough to match in short order.

    Paul Montagu (c280e0)

  43. Does Biden have to survive through the certification of the Electoral votes when the new Congress convenes in January, or only through the Electoral College vote in December?

    nk (1d9030)

  44. You’re the fancy-pants lawyer…

    If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    Dave (1bb933)

  45. 39. Unpossible.

    Review her dwindling primary losses before her ‘I’m moving to effing Iowa’ quip– nd she quit; then strap yourself into a chair for a 24/7, 3-day marathon of every episode of The Jeffersons.

    Yes. It’s possible.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  46. #43. Fox’s Piro said on air she doesn’t think Biden will make it to the election- then her panel colleagues tried to back-fill her doom prediction w/wishing him ‘well’ and w/delegate numbers so she had a chance to recant on air not meaning he would die. But the Foxy damage was done.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  47. @36 Trump’s ongoing lack of plan regarding Covid and his deliberate spreading of misinformation is killing people. I don’t think Harris is likely to kill 3X as many. Therefore I don’t find her to be worse.

    Nic (896fdf)

  48. (typing and brain speed not matching up) 3X as many… or even an equal number… Therefore

    Nic (896fdf)

  49. @44. Ask Jeanine Pirro; she already broadcast her predictions on that on Fox.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. I’m not sure in practice though.

    I recall that the law on challenging electoral votes says the votes must be “regularly cast” and that any vote for an ineligible person is not regularly cast. A vote for a person who was alive at the time the vote was cast would presumably be considered regularly cast, as no procedural irregularity would have occurred.

    If the votes can’t be changed, and votes for a dead person are counted, then somebody dead would be the president-elect and the 20th Amendment I quoted above would be operative.

    But if the electoral votes cast for Biden become invalid when he croaks, presumably it would become a contingent election decided by the House.

    Dave (1bb933)

  51. If its early episodes Mama Jefferson Alive era Jeffersons I could deal with it; humor was mostly derived from George dealing with dueling nags, but it jumped the shark after George saved a Klansman with some CPR and got preachy as hell from its ’80 to ’85 backstretch.

    That said, wouldn’t a daughter of Tom and Helen look more like Kamala Harris than the fully black actress the used for her.

    urbanleftbehind (bd2a2f)

  52. The 70s were depressing, i guess thats why the alternative was the love boat and fantasy island and steve austin and co.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  53. “Chosen” is the word, and the Electors “chuse” the Vice President Elect. So it’s the second Monday after the first Wednesday in December.

    nk (1d9030)

  54. Of course hes going to croak, unlike john mccain he outlived his father and grandfather by a decade.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  55. @52/@53- Could be singin’ it, fellas; ‘Kamala movin’ on up; to the East Wing…’ 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  56. Unpossible.

    Dave (1bb933) — 8/12/2020 @ 8:09 pm

    Trump’s got a hell of a body count and a stack of betrayals. But never say never. Trump set a lot of precedents for how unaccountable the presidency actually is. Combine that with someone a little smarter, a little colder, a little more charismatic, and you never know.

    I will happily bet a six pack of beer, shipped, to any of y’all, that Biden is alive on inauguration day.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  57. Jeanine Pirro…LOL.

    Dave (1bb933)

  58. Jeanine Pirro…LOL.

    Dave (1bb933) — 8/12/2020 @ 10:45 pm

    The poor man’s Judge Judy.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  59. “Ask Jeanine Pirro; she already broadcast her predictions on that on Fox.”

    Had she been drinking again?

    Davethulhu (ed5cbb)

  60. Harris may not kill more people, but I can see her making life more miserable.

    norcal (a5428a)

  61. da bulls need a slogan for black on black murder how about –
    Chicago black lives never mattered

    mg (8cbc69)

  62. Harris may not kill more people, but I can see her making life more miserable.

    160,000 dead and counting.

    -34% annual GDP growth rate.

    America the laughing stock of the world thanks to our clown prince.

    You are quite a pessimist.

    Dave (1bb933)

  63. Nike factory swoosh workers don’t matter

    mg (8cbc69)

  64. Canada is calling for you Dave.
    Gtfoh

    mg (8cbc69)

  65. If your talking mentally dead you’ve lost the bet.

    mg (8cbc69)

  66. They can go play in china, among the starving uighurs gah.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  67. they kneel before a foreign power, and yet they don’t recognize an American flag,

    narciso (7404b5)

  68. I will happily bet a six pack of beer, shipped, to any of y’all, that Biden is alive on inauguration day.

    There’s no guarantee that he’ll make it to election day. One sneeze….

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  69. meanwhile the jackass da in atlanta, who charged rolfe was given his walking papers

    bolivar de griz (7404b5)

  70. Breaking911
    @Breaking911

    BREAKING: Uber CEO says company will likely shut down service in California after a San Fran. judge ordered Uber to treat their drivers as employees instead of independent contractors – KABC
    __ _

    Individual rights
    @Jasta1985
    ·
    In other news, DUIs skyrocket in California and it’s hard to determine why.
    __ _

    Kahnquistador
    @Kahnquistador
    ·
    The Blue Effect in action. Killing jobs since it’s inception.
    __ _

    Onyx
    @Onyx715_
    ·
    It shocks me that people really think this is California’s fault and don’t realize this is a systematic failure of capitalism
    __ _

    𝗥𝗲𝗽𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻 𝗥𝗲𝗣𝗔𝗥𝗧𝗘𝗘
    @RepubRepartee
    ·
    Yup, capitalism means the government forces you to run your business how they see fit. Nailed it.

    _

    harkin (5af287)

  71. Of course but they are fine with it, and its not like there is an opposition in san ageles

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  72. He recognizes similar patterns

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1293888006026342401

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  73. However, Trump loses me because he has also publicly called on professional sports teams to suspend or even fire players who choose to kneel during the national anthem,

    Trump was looking for something that no other politician would endorse/

    Sammy Finkelman (083d4c)

  74. 62. mg (8cbc69) — 8/13/2020 @ 1:03 am

    da bulls need a slogan for black on black murder how about –

    Chicago black lives never mattered

    No, it is:

    “Ssee no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” if anyone black does it, and if you analyze it “properly” it is all the fault of white people anyway.

    And it even could be in some sense.

    Sammy Finkelman (083d4c)

  75. 51. Dave (1bb933) — 8/12/2020 @ 9:00 pm

    I recall that the law on challenging electoral votes says the votes must be “regularly cast” and that any vote for an ineligible person is not regularly cast.

    Every state has a different law, except that any general voting laws for elective offices applies (15th amendment, 19th amendment, 24th amendment etc)

    And, remember, in the November general election, youre not voting for president!

    You’re voting for a slate of Electors.

    How can you vote for someone who has no electors pledged to him? Now maybe a state might have registered write in candidates who have electors.

    A vote for a person who was alive at the time the vote was cast would presumably be considered regularly cast, as no procedural irregularity would have occurred.

    The wquestionis not whether the presidential or vice presidential candidate was alive at the time, but whether the Electors or a substitute was.

    If by the time the Electors vote…I think it still counts as a vote and doesn’t reduce the number of Electoral votes neeeded to reach a majority of those cast.

    If the votes can’t be changed, and votes for a dead person are counted, then somebody dead would be the president-elect and the 20th Amendment I quoted above would be operative.

    But if the electoral votes cast for Biden become invalid when he croaks, presumably it would become a contingent election decided by the House.

    Here;s an interesting idea?

    What if the election results are tied up in the courts, and a state is prevented from certifying its election results by the time the Electors have to vote? Well, apolitical party wouldn’t just give up – mthey’d get the governor or some other official to certify the results. Congress would have to decide whether to accept them.

    Sammy Finkelman (083d4c)

  76. Nic (896fdf) — 8/12/2020 @ 8:56 pm

    @36 Trump’s ongoing lack of plan regarding Covid and his deliberate spreading of misinformation is killing people.

    Even if it saves people, the democrats will say it will/can kill people because he put forth a vaccine/treatment for political reasons.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/opinion/letters/coronavirus-vaccine.html

    Sammy Finkelman (083d4c)

  77. Narciso, I think you inadvertently shifted to a different handle (Bolivar di griz).

    Leviticus (efada1)

  78. Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility
    …..
    But those claims are erroneous, at least as the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment was originally understood—an error to which even my good friend, renowned UCLA School of Law professor Eugene Volokh, has fallen prey.

    The language of Article II is that one must be a natural-born citizen. The original Constitution did not define citizenship, but the 14th Amendment does—and it provides that “all persons born…in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.” Those who claim that birth alone is sufficient overlook the second phrase. The person must also be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States, and that meant subject to the complete jurisdiction, not merely a partial jurisdiction such as that which applies to anyone temporarily sojourning in the United States (whether lawfully or unlawfully). Such was the view of those who authored the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause; of the Supreme Court of the United States in the 1872 Slaughter-House Cases and the 1884 case of Elk v. Wilkins; of Thomas Cooley, the leading constitutional treatise writer of the day; and of the State Department, which, in the 1880s, issued directives to U.S. embassies to that effect.
    ……..
    Granted, our government’s view of the Constitution’s citizenship mandate has morphed over the decades to what is now an absolute “birth on the soil no matter the circumstances” view—but that morphing does not appear to have begun until the late 1960s, after Kamala Harris’ birth in 1964. The children born on U.S. soil to guest workers from Mexico during the Roaring 1920s were not viewed as citizens, for example, when, in the wake of the Great Depression, their families were repatriated to Mexico. Nor were the children born on U.S. soil to guest workers in the bracero program of the 1950s and early 1960s deemed citizens when that program ended, and their families emigrated back to their home countries.

    So before we so cavalierly accept Senator Harris’ eligibility for the office of vice president, we should ask her a few questions about the status of her parents at the time of her birth.
    …….
    That didn’t take long …….

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  79. New computer,

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  80. Editor’s Note: Eastman’s Newsweek Column Has Nothing to Do With Racist Birtherism
    Some of our readers have reacted strongly to the op-ed we published by Dr. John Eastman, assuming it to be an attempt to ignite a racist conspiracy theory around Kamala Harris’ candidacy. Dr. Eastman was focusing on a long-standing, somewhat arcane legal debate about the precise meaning of the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment. His essay has no connection whatsoever to so-called “birther-ism,” the racist 2008 conspiracy theory aimed at delegitimizing then-candidate Barack Obama by claiming, baselessly, that he was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. We share our readers’ revulsion at those vile lies.

    The 14th Amendment is one of the most-studied areas of constitutional law, and questions were raised by the Constitution’s Article II, Section 1 “natural born Citizen” requirement for presidential eligibility about both John McCain and Ted Cruz, at the time of their respective runs. The meaning of “natural born Citizen,” and the relation of that Article II textual requirement to the 14th Amendment’s Citizenship Clause, are issues of legal interpretation about which scholars and commentators can, and will, robustly disagree.

    Debating the meaning of these constitutional provisions and, in the particular case of Dr. Eastman’s piece, the meaning of the 14th Amendment’s phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” is not an attempt to deny facts or to make false claims. No one is questioning Harris’ place of birth or the legitimacy of an obviously valid birth certificate.
    …….
    Right……

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  81. Meanwhile……

    Mister Jones
    @deuceohsixx
    ·
    SEATTLE (AP) — Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan is asking the state Supreme Court to reverse the decision of a King County judge that has allowed a recall effort to move forward that could result in her being removed from office.

    https://apnews.com/4a38ed435d4ed88b87ac2cfb57cb4746
    __ _

    harkin (5af287)

  82. Trump launches into another ugly tirade against women; adorable niece hits back twice as hard!

    “AOC was a poor student. I won’t say where she went to school, it doesn’t matter,” Trump said. “This is not even a smart person, other than she’s got a good line of stuff. I mean, she goes out and she yaps. These guys, they’re all afraid of her.”

    Ocasio-Cortez, who graduated cum laude from Boston University in 2011, hit back at Trump on Twitter.

    “Let’s make a deal, Mr. President: You release your college transcript, I’ll release mine, and we’ll see who was the better student. Loser has to fund the Post Office,” she tweeted, with a nod to Trump’s opposition to funding the U.S. Postal Service ahead of the elections in November, when more mail-in ballots are anticipated due to the coronavirus pandemic.

    Dave (1bb933)

  83. Another area of agreement with Trump here, although UAE called it a roadmap toward recognition. Still, it’s a positive step.

    Paul Montagu (c280e0)

  84. Trump admits he’s sabotaging the postal service to delegitimize the election:

    President Donald Trump said Thursday that he opposes much-needed funding for the United States Postal Service because he doesn’t want to see it used for mail-in voting this November.

    By directly linking USPS funding to mail-in voting, Trump is fueling allegations that he is trying to manipulate the postal system for political gain. The pandemic has led to record-shattering levels of voting-by-mail, but Trump has tried to restrict the voting method because he says it will hurt his re-election and Republicans across the board.

    During an interview on Fox News, Trump said that if USPS does not receive the additional $25 billion funding request that Democrats included in the ongoing stimulus negotiations, then he believes the Post Office won’t be able to handle the influx of mail-in ballots in the upcoming election.

    “They want three and a half billion dollars for something that’ll turn out to be fraudulent, that’s election money basically. They want three and a half billion dollars for the mail-in votes. Universal mail-in ballots. They want $25 billion, billion, for the Post Office. Now they need that money in order to make the Post Office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” Trump said, repeating his false claims that mail-in voting would be “fraudulent.”

    “But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting because you they’re not equipped to have it,” Trump added.

    A time for choosing: America, or Trump?

    Dave (1bb933)

  85. Tucker Carlson mispronounces ‘Kamala‘.

    CNN goes berserk, saying it was racist and intentional.

    Tucker supplies video of Joe Biden pronouncing it the same way.

    CNN: [crickets]

    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/08/13/wait-for-it-tucker-carlson-makes-a-mockery-of-cnn-analysts-triggered-by-how-he-pronounced-kamala-cue-clip-of-joe-biden/

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    harkin (5af287)

  86. A time for choosing: America, or Trump?

    If Kamala Harris represents America, I want the Treaty of Paris rescinded. Rule Britannia!

    nk (1d9030)

  87. I sympathize with you, Dave, I really do. I very badly want to give the finger to Trump too.

    nk (1d9030)

  88. it is pretty damn frustrating that Biden is screwing up my chance to vote against Trump. Pretty damn frustrating.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  89. Actually, Kamala is all “Commonwealth”, Donald only 1/2 so.

    urbanleftbehind (78bfa2)

  90. Be like Mike Trump: Every day is the same Covid news, especially now that statistics only go through the federal government.

    DRJ (aede82)

  91. Amazing link, DRJ.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  92. This could have been written by Robert Graves. Claudius succeeds Caligula and appoints Nero as his successor. Sigh.

    nk (1d9030)

  93. Rule Britannia!

    At this point, I think we have to put every option on the table.

    Unfortunately, Her Majesty is 94, and the heir-apparent is only a couple years younger than our two fossils.

    But apart from his name, Boris seems like a decent chap. And he’s got immmunity to the germ already, so there’s that.

    Another possibility, and I’m just putting this out there, is that we offer to let Greenland annex us.

    Dave (1bb933)

  94. 98.

    But apart from his name, Boris seems like a decent chap. And he’s got immunity to the germ already, so there’s that.

    Boris Johnson renounced his U.S. citizenship a liyle over three years ago.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2017/02/09/brit-boris-johnson-renounces-america-why-we-should-care/#1e5296c95341

    Sammy Finkelman (083d4c)

  95. 84. All you have to do is enter the name narciso i the Leave a Reply box and the browser will remember the name that way.

    Sammy Finkelman (083d4c)

  96. mr bob woodward says his new book will publish 25 love letters between president donald and his plump little north korean dumpling

    that seems really cruel to mr vladimir who probably thought they were in a committed relationship

    i guess it’s more like friends with benefits

    Dave (1bb933)

  97. “He seems to believe that the federal government should be determining how professional sports franchises handle the decisions made by their players.”

    That is the longest possible stretch to interpret his comment. He didn’t propose legislation, or issue an executive order. He gave us his opinion.

    It’s not wise for him to give his opinion on everything, but he does, and it is not assuming control of the matter.

    Mike S (4125f8)

  98. In which I don’t agree with Trump is his attempt to undermine our democracy by corrupting the US Postal Service.
    Example 1:

    “Now, they need that money in order to make the post office work, so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” Trump said in an interview with Fox Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo. He added: “Now, if we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting, they just can’t have it.”

    Example 2:

    The United States Postal Service is removing mail sorting machines from facilities around the country without any official explanation or reason given, Motherboard has learned through interviews with postal workers and union officials. In many cases, these are the same machines that would be tasked with sorting ballots, calling into question promises made by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy that the USPS has “ample capacity” to handle the predicted surge in mail-in ballots.

    It’s almost as if Trump is deliberately trying to prolong the vote-counting process by slowing down US mail deliveries via funding cuts and removing essential machines, then declaring fraud for the slowdown he caused. He already tried to cheat this election at least once.

    Paul Montagu (c280e0)

  99. @103: Dude…. in that same story:
    “The Postal Service routinely moves equipment around its network as necessary to match changing mail and package volumes. Package volume is up, but mail volume continues to decline. Adapting our processing infrastructure to the current volumes will ensure more efficient, cost effective operations and better service for our customers.”

    There’s your reason.

    whembly (c30c83)

  100. That is the longest possible stretch to interpret his comment.

    You must get better acquainted with “stretches” if yer gonna come ’round heyah, son…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  101. “There’s your reason.”

    Now spin the Trump quote.

    Davethulhu (ed5cbb)

  102. @107. Don’t need to.

    whembly (c30c83)

  103. “The Postal Service routinely moves equipment around its network as necessary to match changing mail and package volumes. Package volume is up, but mail volume continues to decline. Adapting our processing infrastructure to the current volumes will ensure more efficient, cost effective operations and better service for our customers.”

    There’s your reason.

    whembly (c30c83) — 8/13/2020 @ 3:07 pm

    That’s as reasonable and fair as your birther claim earlier.

    We know millions of people will vote by mail soon, and no one in the postal service has explained there was a reason to damage the capability to handle high mail later. Mail also helps economic activity and Trump has had no problem spending trillions on much less relevant economic programs.

    There is zero argument this will lead to “better service”.

    Why not move to Moscow where your attitude will be embraced warmly by those like you?

    Dustin (4237e0)


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