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8/5/2020

New Political Ads From Biden And Trump Camps

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:26 am



[guest post by Dana]

Here are a few recently released Trump campaign ads with a different line of attack on Joe Biden:

The 30-second TV ads – running in North Carolina, Arizona, Florida and Georgia in English and Spanish – don’t feature Trump at all, except for a brief photo at the end during the mandatory declaration that he approves the message. Instead, they feature the former vice president – who has had trouble exciting progressives in the Democratic Party – with such leftist figures as democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota.

The first ad is called “Takeover,” and it’s in the dramtaically-narrated style that the campaign seems to favor:

The second ad called “Cards” is unusually quiet for a Trump ad:

Clearly, the battleground states are expanding:

A CBS News/YouGov poll released Sunday shows Biden up by 4 percentage points in North Carolina – with 48% supporting Biden and 44% backing Trump – and a single point in long reliably-red Georgia, where Biden has the support of 46% of those polled compared to 45% for Trump. Because of the margin of error in polling, the two men are virtually tied in those states.

Trump is investing in those states in part because early voting and absentee voting starts in September or October.

“The countdown clock may show 91 days left in the race, but in reality the election starts a lot sooner than that,” Trump 2020 campaign manager Bill Stepien said in a statement. “In many states, more than half of voters will cast their votes well before Election Day and we have adjusted our strategy to reflect that. Joe Biden is continuing to spend millions of dollars a week in states that won’t come online for two months and we encourage him to keep at it.”

Biden’s camp jumped on Trump’s insensitive comment regarding US deaths from Covid-19 made during his recent interview with Jonathan Swan. With an enormous ad buy, Team Biden is reportedly going to be shifting their focus of attack to the President’s handling of the pandemic. Biden tweeted “It Is What It Is”:

Another recent ad, “Donna,” features a grandma lamenting not being able to see her grandchildren in person because of virus risks and Trump’s ineffective response to the pandemic:

Joe Biden’s campaign says it has reserved $280 million in television and digital advertising that it plans to use largely to hammer President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

The presumptive Democratic nominee’s ads will often run 60 seconds rather than the more typical 30-second commercials, and will frequently feature Biden speaking directly into a camera, campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon said in a memo Wednesday. The ads will air in 15 states the campaign believes will be competitive in November’s election…

The reservations, which include $220 million for television and $60 million in digital ads, underscore Biden aides’ belief that this year’s election offers Democrats a wide playing field, with a large number of possible paths for Biden to reach 270 electoral votes.

The states in Biden’s advertising plan include 10 that Trump won in 2016. Three — Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — are the “blue wall” that Trump toppled. Five more — Arizona, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina and Texas — are growing southern and southwestern states with increasingly diverse populations. The remaining two are Iowa and Ohio, states that former President Barack Obama won twice, but that have shifted in Republicans’ favor in recent years, with Trump winning both in 2016.
Biden’s buy also includes five states Hillary Clinton won in 2016: Colorado, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire and Virginia.

A sign of the times: Due to Covid-19 concerns, Biden is expected to accept his nomination with a speech delivered from his home in Delaware, and Trump has confirmed that he plans to deliver his nomination acceptance speech from the White House.

Only 90 days left until the election.

ADDED: Because this is apparently what we deserve:

–Dana

71 Responses to “New Political Ads From Biden And Trump Camps”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (292df6)

  2. Best Add: Trump’s with the women holding signs. Feels like it might impact ppl that haven’t made up their minds.

    Worst Add: The one that says Biden is a radical leftist. I think Trump Fans will love it but I doubt it’s going to change any minds or get anyone to head the polls that weren’t already planning to .

    Time123 (b87ded)

  3. > Only 90 days left until the election

    And if the booze supply holds up, we might even make it.

    john (cd2753)

  4. “Worst Add: The one that says Biden is a radical leftist. I think Trump Fans will love it but I doubt it’s going to change any minds or get anyone to head the polls that weren’t already planning to.”
    __

    They don’t need to say Joe is a radical Leftist.

    Just show images of Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle, Chicago, Baltimore, NYC etc. and let them know a Biden admin. will be bringing the same sort of ‘leadership’ that encourages this lawlessness, rioting and hate for the country to a city near them soon.

    Related:

    Red Nation Rising
    @RedNationRising

    Antifa and BLM are begging people to stop posting videos and pictures of riots because they’re getting arrested

    https://twitter.com/RedNationRising/status/1290737211575607297?s=20
    __ _

    harkin (5af287)

  5. let them know a Biden admin. will be bringing the same sort of ‘leadership’ that encourages this lawlessness, rioting and hate for the country to a city near them soon.

    Ha, ha, ha! Trump already has that portion of the Bell Curve.

    nk (1d9030)

  6. It seems that 60 second ads are pretty risky. Your own voters will probably love them, but those on the fence are likely to tune them out. And no matter how slickly they will be produced, Biden simply doesn’t have the charisma that his former boss had, so at best he should probably only appear in maybe 10 of the 60 seconds.

    And I think focusing on COVID might be a bad strategy. It could end up reminding people of the statewide closures that most Democrat governors favored, and the jobs losses and budgetary havoc that has resulted. I would divide my ad spend along something like the following lines:

    1/4 positive ads talking about Joe Biden and how well-liked he is in Washington
    1/4 ads promising the whole panoply of Democrat social spending priorities
    1/4 ads bashing President Trump for his COVID response
    1/4 ads bashing President Trump for the chaos his administration has sown.

    All ads would be 30 seconds, but I would purchase a 60-second time slot. I would pair an ad bashing Trump, which would always come first, with a positive ad about Biden or Democrat ambitions always following. And I would make sure that each ad only ran about 27 seconds long, so that there would always be a few seconds of music fade-out or even silence between them.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  7. “ Ha, ha, ha! Trump already has that portion of the Bell Curve”
    _

    Ha ha ha people who think Trump and/or Republicans run those cities.
    _

    harkin (5af287)

  8. Is this still a turn-out-your-base election, or do the sides think that they need to appeal to independents in order to prevail? It seems to me that both bases are pretty riled up and likely to vote, so I would be trying to win over some undecideds right about now.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  9. The Trump ad in a nutshell: ‘The Silent Majority.’

    Awesome. =mike-drop=

    ______

    The Biden ad:

    OMG– who the hell has square, 1960’s-era Kodak Instamatic ‘printed on Kodak paper’ type photos with images of kids with tablets and laptop computers in 2020?????

    What, no rotary phones, Plagiarist JoeyBee?

    Yes, the vim and vigor of 60 year old ‘ready to retire’ types cranking about a transient virus is an inspiring future for America. Lincoln’s memorable campaign against cholera was awesome, too!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  10. I agree re the length of the ads. 60 seconds is too long. The point needs to be driven home in 30 seconds, which is still long enough to tell a story and yet not too long to have viewers tune out. Of course, 30 seconds is a bigger challenge to campaigns. Frankly, I found both Trump ads boring; I feel like they’ve been done before. Biden was smart to use Trump’s own callousness against himself. The President needs to be very careful in what he says and how he says it. (OK, so I just made myself laugh with that…)

    Dana (292df6)

  11. I think both sides are just in a similar position, and are simply voting against the other candidate and not because they think they have a great candidate at hand.

    Dana (292df6)

  12. One candidate has practically every newspaper magazine and tv station, teacher and large blocs of corporate america covering for him. So paid advertising slightly balances things

    Narciso (7404b5)

  13. Clearly Trump is going for the “Suburban Lifestyle” voters with that second ad.
    My eyes are glazing over after watching the content of both ads. I’m more interested in where the ads are playing and how much they’re paying, by both candidates. Following the money is a sure sign of what their internal polling is telling ’em.

    Paul Montagu (bd1e46)

  14. BTW,

    Here are a few recently released Trump campaign ads with a different line of attack on Joe Biden:
    The 30-second TV ads – running in North Carolina, Arizona, Florida and Georgia in English and Spanish

    “and Spanish”? What does Trump think he’s doing, asking people who don’t even speak English to go out and vote for him? Some conservative he is.

    nk (1d9030)

  15. People who have experience with thecommunist assholes youre so keen on.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  16. The “where” is interesting for Trump, because Trump won the following four states in 2016, and three of them weren’t that close, so he’s shoring up his base instead of trying to make inroads.
    Arizona, Trump by 3.6%
    Florida, Trump by 1.2%
    Georgia, Trump by 5.1%
    North Carolina, Trump by 3.6%

    Paul Montagu (bd1e46)

  17. That’s besides the point, or I’d be asking why only Spanish, and not also Polish, German (East), Vietanmese, or Slovenian.

    The point is should people who don’t even speak American vote in American elections? Trump seems to be in favor of that, it seems to me. In fact, he’s encouraging it.

    nk (1d9030)

  18. Weve seen the ezekiel emmanuel plan in action, you like.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  19. That’s another thing as well: Why is Trump implementing it? Killing all the old people in accordance with Zeke Emanuel’s plan, including death panels to decide who gets ventilators and vaccination?

    nk (1d9030)

  20. ‘printed on Kodak paper’

    Kodak is now in the business of…

    …making drugs and chemicals for coronavirus tests.

    https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/coronavirus-tracker-hydroxychloroquine-fails-va-study-fda-approves-at-home-sample-collection

    And Kodak rolled out a new pharmaceutical division, backed by $765 million from the U.S. government, to create active ingredients for critical drugs in short supply. Among the medicines Kodak will reportedly produce? Discredited COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine, which had its emergency approval in COVID-19 revoked in June.

    Meanwhile Fuji is making a drug advocated by the Prime Minister of Japan:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/04/fujifilms-flu-drug-favipiravir-sent-to-43-nations-for-covid-19-trials.html

    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Monday he wants favipiravir approved for Covid-19 in May, as Japan moves to fast-track approval for remdesivir as well.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  21. Depending on how they’re written and produced, I think the longer ads might work for Biden.

    If he comes across as a regular guy, and a relatable, non-threatening grown-up, it would contrast with Trump’s lunacy and also defeat his attempts to caricature Biden as a wild-eyed radical.

    Hopefully Biden will outline a plan for how we defeat the pandemic and turn the economy around. No need to go into great detail – simply being able to talk believably and empathetically about what we’ve gone through, the mess we’re currently in, and how we go forward to get out, will drive home the message of what a hopeless failure Trump has been.

    Optimism from somebody who sounds like they know what they’re talking about, in other words.

    Dave (1bb933)

  22. The point is should people who don’t even speak American vote in American elections? Trump seems to be in favor of that, it seems to me. In fact, he’s encouraging it.

    Try to keep up:

    Trump first.

    Putin second.

    America last. Dead last.

    Dave (1bb933)

  23. This ad writes itself…

    “No, I haven’t taken a test. Why the hell would I take a test? Come on, man… that’s like saying to you, before you got on this program if you had taken a test were you taking cocaine or not. What do you think, huh? Are you a junkie?”

    — Joe Biden, getting testy with a black reporter

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. Trump thoughtfully wrote another Biden COVID ad today:

    Trump Says Surging Virus ‘Will Go Away Like Things Go Away’

    He’s been saying the same thing since February. How’s that been working out, America?

    Dave (1bb933)

  25. He’d better reach for his apology chain, and quick…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. No, no, no, Mr. Dave! DCSCA has had it right from the very beginning. Trump is a Commie plot to destroy conservatism in America and to have the people voting Communist for the next 200 years. Why, even two out of his three wives are from Communist countries and four of his five kids are only half American with the other half Communist.

    nk (1d9030)

  27. @26. Bonespur Defer 101: If you mix yellow with Red equally, you get… orange.

    Reaganoptics. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. Watch the segment.

    Biden was having a laugh with the guy, not testy at all.

    Dave (1bb933)

  29. 21.Depending on how they’re written and produced, I think the longer ads might work for Biden.

    Long-winded ads for cellar bound, gaffe-prone Plagiarist JoeyBee.

    Uh-huh.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  30. I’ve added two new video clips of the two rich old white guys vying for the presidency. This is what we deserve, apparently.

    Dana (292df6)

  31. “No, I haven’t taken a test. Why the hell would I take a test? Come on, man… that’s like saying to you, before you got on this program if you had taken a test were you taking cocaine or not. What do you think, huh? Are you a junkie?”

    — Joe Biden, getting testy with a black reporter

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/5/2020 @ 11:16 am

    Lots of folks would be fired, or at least warned they could be fired, for that.

    Sorry fellow NeverTrumpers, Biden sucks. He totally sucks at everything. Thin skinned, thinks he is smarter than he is.

    And all these ads suck too. I know there are riots. I know there’s a pandemic. I get it. Half the commenters here can come up with a more positive vision for our future than whoever made these ads for the price of a Ferrari.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  32. “Yo! Semite!” wins, but Old Faithful in the Grand Canyon is not far behind.

    nk (1d9030)

  33. The “it is what it is” ad really isn’t an ad. It’s a tweet, but it is the best of the lot.

    It’s a smart strategy to hold Trump’s buffoonery, ineptitude and total lack of empathy for the American people up against him.

    That’s the way you do it
    You play the guitar on the MTV
    That ain’t working
    That’s the way you do it
    Get your money for nothing and your chicks for free
    That ain’t working
    –Dire Straits

    I think if Biden really wanted to deliver a knock out blow, he would ask on simple question. Mr. President, what is your national plan for getting this coronavirus under control?

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  34. Dave (1bb933) — 8/5/2020 @ 11:04 am

    Hopefully Biden will outline a plan for how we defeat the pandemic

    His plan is leave it to the experts who have spent their careers on this, and nobody should interfere or question anything they say.

    and turn the economy around.

    His plan is dust off the dreamlist of proposals endorsed by…unions, but only pass part of them.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  35. 28… just having a laugh? LOL.

    Given Hidin’ Biden’s history with mass incarceration for minor drug crimes which disproportionately affect minorities and the poor, was it a good idea to ask a member of the black and hispanic press if they were junkies?

    Be effing honest/lucid for a change: if Trump had done this, the world would never hear the end of it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  36. CH, 3 things
    1. You’re right, there are examples of Trump being taken literally when he was probably joking. It’s hard to identify these because of his history of claiming he was joking when he appeared to be serious.
    2. If Biden was joking it was a tasteless joke.
    3. Nice concern trolling.
    4. People give someone ‘on their side’ the benefit of the doubt. For instance christians as a gourpd didn’t seem very upset when Trump said “Two Corinthians” Partly this is partisanship, partly it’s giving people the benefit of the doubt.

    Time123 (c9382b)

  37. This just in… an individual who goes by a moniker associated with the Hogan’s Heroes TV show was among those arrested on August 1, 2020 when federal revenuers swept through Beattyville, Ky and arrested locals operating stills.

    Just when Grandpappy Van Tinkles corn liquor was hitting the Mom & Pops…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  38. if president donald who reads all the virus testing manuals very carefully is a commie thats a real game changer mr nk

    i guess we all need to become commies ourselves then

    lets show those dirty chinesers how its done failmerica

    Dave (1bb933)

  39. 3. Nice concern trolling.

    Well I’m not trolling. I think the nation is set up for a rough few years with either candidate, both parties are fully aware of it, neither have the spine to do the right thing, and it will mean a lot of negative outcomes. On the right, some say Andrew Cuomo should replace Biden, and on the left some say Trump could be replaced with Haley or whoever.

    I think it’s fair to call this concern trolling, but it’s also a damn good idea.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  40. if Trump had done this, the world would never hear the end of it

    At least not until he did something equally stupid an hour or two later.

    Dave (1bb933)

  41. 24. Dave (1bb933) — 8/5/2020 @ 11:16 am

    Trump thoughtfully wrote another Biden COVID ad today:

    Trump Says Surging Virus ‘Will Go Away Like Things Go Away’

    He’s been saying the same thing since February. How’s that been working out, America?

    Trump has said that eventually that will turn out to be true.

    And Democrats will have to agree – otherwise they would have to give him credit for pushing through immune plasma, or antibodies or a vaccine before the medical establishment was ready to. Better to say it went away by itself than that Trump made it go away.

    They’re very, very afraid. I mean, he got the Wollman ice skating rink built and now that the prospect of losing an election has concentrated his mind…

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/us/politics/coronavirus-vaccine.html

    Operation Warp Speed has moved along at a rapid clip. But some people involved in the process fear pressure to deliver an October surprise for President Trump.

    What they’re really afraid of is it might work.

    They are afraideven though it doesn’t make sense to be afraid:

    It is not clear that a vaccine approval shortly before the election would be an “October surprise” sufficient to alter the outcome of the vote. An announcement could give Americans hope that the end is in sight. But some Republican strategists said that it might not help Mr. Trump because his opponent, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the presumptive Democratic nominee, would surely continue the vaccine process if elected.

    Not if he’s arguing against it. But it wouldn’t make sense for the pharmaceutical companies to come out with anything bad.

    They are arguing against treatments too:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/04/health/trump-plasma.html

    President Trump on Monday promoted its promise: “You had something very special. You had something that knocked it out. So we want to be able to use it,” he said, calling on Covid-19 survivors to donate their plasma, which he called a “beautiful ingredient.”

    But the unexpected demand for plasma has inadvertently undercut the research that could prove that it works. The only way to get convincing evidence is with a clinical trial that compares outcomes for patients who are randomly assigned to get the treatment with those who are given a placebo. Many patients and their doctors — knowing they could get the treatment under the government program — have been unwilling to join clinical trials that might provide them with a placebo instead of the plasma….

    …The F.D.A. is preparing an emergency authorization to use the treatment, according to scientists who have been briefed on the plans. The policy would ease the clerical burden on hospitals to get clearance for transfusions, further hampering clinical trials, researchers said. An F.D.A. spokeswoman declined to comment on whether such an authorization was in the works.

    The move would mean the F.D.A. is “yielding to political pressure,” said Dr. Luciana Borio, who oversaw public health preparedness for the National Security Council under Mr. Trump and who was acting chief scientist at the F.D.A. under President Barack Obama.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  42. 40… too challenging I see…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  43. It’s not like the WHO et al is right:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/30/opinion/coronavirus-aerosols.html

    Finally. The World Health Organization has now formally recognized that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, is airborne and that it can be carried by tiny aerosols….

    ….After several months of pressure from scientists, on July 9, the W.H.O. changed its position — going from denial to grudging partial acceptance: “Further studies are needed to determine whether it is possible to detect viable SARS-CoV-2 in air samples from settings where no procedures that generate aerosols are performed and what role aerosols might play in transmission.”

    I am a civil and environmental engineer who studies how viruses and bacteria spread through the air — as well as one of the 239 scientists who signed an open letter in late June pressing the W.H.O. to consider the risk of airborne transmission more seriously.

    A month later, I believe that the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 via aerosols matters much more than has been officially acknowledged to date.

    The dismiss aerosols and blame surface contact. The two errors are linked.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  44. Not everything Trump does is wrong, and where he is most right is in his contempt for the Fake News Media, who take themselves and their oh-so-solemn infantile questions oh-so-seriously.

    nk (1d9030)

  45. According to RCP, the current death total 16,998, and climbing.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  46. His plan is dust off the dreamlist of proposals endorsed by…unions, but only pass part of them.

    Democrats everywhere insist that there is nothing wrong with our economy that heavy government regulation and higher levels of taxation won’t fix.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  47. @20-
    Kodak reportedly under SEC investigation over disclosure of U.S. drug producing deal

    The Securities and Exchange Commission is investigating Eastman Kodak’s disclosure about getting awarded a $765 million loan from the U.S. government to start producing drug ingredients, which sent the stock up on heavy volume ahead of the official announcement, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday.

    On July 27, a day before Kodak, as well as President Donald Trump, announced the deal to make ingredients in generic drugs in response to the coronavirus pandemic, shares of the film pioneer soared nearly 25% with trading volumes far exceeding those in previous sessions.
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  48. The First
    @TheFirstonTV

    Joe Biden explains how he’s going to take on China…

    https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1291070009452703744?s=20
    __ _
    Sounds good to me.
    _

    harkin (5af287)

  49. Exclusive: Trump campaign seeks early September presidential debate

    The Trump campaign is asking the Commission on Presidential Debates to move up the last presidential debate to the first week in September to get ahead of an expected surge in early voting.
    ……
    Giuliani has been leading the campaign’s discussions with the debate commission, which also includes asking the commission to add a fourth debate.

    If the commission declines to add a fourth debate, the letter asks that the debate currently scheduled for Oct. 22 be moved up to the first week in September, before the first ballots are sent on Sept. 4 in North Carolina.

    ……..“By the time of the first presidential debate on September 29, 2020, …… as many as eight million Americans in 16 states will have already started voting,” Giuliani writes in the letter, calling the current timetable “an outdated dinosaur.”

    …..The letter also includes a list of suggested moderators ……and asks the commission to solidify backup plans for “a simple studio format with no audience” for presidential and vice presidential debates in case of further coronavirus complications.
    …….
    Full list of proposed moderators: Bret Baier, Gerry Baker, Maria Bartiromo, Shannon Bream, David Brody, Rachel Campos-Duffy, Kevin Cirilli, Larry Elder, Saagar Enjeti, Harris Faulkner, Major Garrett, Michael Goodwin, Ambrosio Hernandez, Joe Kernen, Hoda Kotb, Susan Li, Bill Hemmer, Hugh Hewitt, Tom Llamas, Dagen McDowell, David Muir, Norah O’Donnell, Charles Payne, Rick Santelli.
    >>>>>>>>>
    No way Biden agrees. What Trump should do is by an hour of network time, and set up their own debate set with an empty podium for Biden, and have their moderators question the President.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  50. No way Biden agrees. What Trump should do is by an hour of network time, and set up their own debate set with an empty podium for Biden, and have their moderators question the President.

    Why pay?

    He can get an hour of free time on FoxNews whenever he wants it.

    Sycophantic moderators included for no extra charge.

    Dave (1bb933)

  51. Plagiarist JoeyBee, champion of the struggling middle-class; the Scranton, Pennsylvania boy, to accept ‘nomination’ in… Delaware. Where the bank buddies are.

    Idiot.

    “Safe! Safe!” – Umpire #2 [J.J. Edwards] ‘Major League’ 1989

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  52. F-F-F-F-itness for office… Biden struggles to even say it, let alone understand it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  53. Trump teased a forthcoming health care plan more than a dozen times as president. Then nothing happened

    Last month, Trump again teased a forthcoming plan.

    “We’re signing a health-care plan within two weeks, a full and complete health-care plan that the Supreme Court decision on DACA gave me the right to do,” Trump said.

    Asked about the plan 15 days later, Trump said it would be out “prior to the end of the month.”

    The Supreme Court decision on DACA “gave him the right” to enact a “full and complete health-care plan” by executive order?

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    Dave (1bb933)

  54. He down with CCP, yeah, you know he…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  55. Facebook removes Trump post over coronavirus information

    “This video includes false claims that a group of people is immune from COVID-19 which is a violation of our policies around harmful COVID misinformation,” a Facebook spokesperson said.

    Dave (1bb933)

  56. Trump here maybe got his facts a little wrong. It’s not that children are virtualy immune and can’t get the disease – it is that are unlikely to get very sick from, it. Also children over 10 can spread it to others just about as easily as older people

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  57. I just saw aBiden commercial on the CBS Evening News. I think it tries to put too much into a 30-second commercial. It seems mostly to be pro-mask, but it is also critical of Trump, although it will pass ver the heads of anyone who hasn’t heard these criticisms before/ Biden says we need a president who will level with the american people, tell them he unvarnished truth and follow the science. But “science” is part of the problem.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  58. @23. Joe Biden says he’s ‘constantly tested’ for mental decline …

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/30/joe...

    “I’ve been tested and I’m constantly tested,” Mr. Bidentold a reporter who asked if he had been checked for a potential decline in his mental faculties.

    Rick Perry translates: “Oops.”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  59. Well I’m not trolling. I think the nation is set up for a rough few years with either candidate, both parties are fully aware of it, neither have the spine to do the right thing, and it will mean a lot of negative outcomes. On the right, some say Andrew Cuomo should replace Biden, and on the left some say Trump could be replaced with Haley or whoever.

    I think it’s fair to call this concern trolling, but it’s also a damn good idea.

    I don’t understand why pointing out the obvious is negatively labeled as “concern trolling”? He makes viable points. Where is the inaccuracy in them? I would say that these are astute observations rather than “concern trolling”.

    Dana (292df6)

  60. According to RCP, the current death total 16,998, and climbing.

    Gawain’s Ghost (b25cd1) — 8/5/2020 @ 12:31 pm

    Where??

    Dana (292df6)

  61. Weve seen the torricelli rule, the dems will replace and all will go along.

    Thats not really close to true with gop base voters

    Narciso (7404b5)

  62. Biden’s puppeteers won’t let this go on much longer…

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1291070009452703744

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  63. The Hill: Twitter bans Trump campaign until it deletes tweet with Covid-19 misinformation

    Also The Hill: Twitter says coronavirus misinformation spread by Chinese officials does not violate rules

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1291184354220285958
    _

    lol
    _

    harkin (5af287)

  64. Fairly comprehensive (and depressing) summary of how America has failed at containing the virus, while most of the world succeeded:

    The Unique U.S. Failure to Control the Virus

    Dave (1bb933)

  65. Still can’t figure out why they they don’t want him to debate…….
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    Tom Elliott
    @tomselliott
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    @JoeBiden: “Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1291371568225017856
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    harkin (5af287)

  66. Ohio Republican Governor Dewine tests postive for Covid-19.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  67. The Democratic platform?

    https://www.newyorker.com/science/medical-dispatch/americas-coronavirus-endurance-test

    To defeat the virus, we will have to start thinking in years, not months

    D.A. and I saw each other often between 2006 and 2010, when, together with Martin Cetron, the director of the C.D.C.’s Division of Global Migration and Quarantine, I worked to help develop the concept now known as “flattening the curve”: using social distancing to decrease the peak burden on health-care systems and to buy time for scientists and doctors to respond. (Those now-familiar drawings of flattened curves, seen at White House briefings and elsewhere, were taken from one of Marty’s PowerPoint slides.) …

    …In a booming voice, one that carried the authority of a living legend, D.A. said that our carefully arrayed historical research was just that: history. Social distancing, he argued, would be hugely disruptive. It would ruin the economy. It would destroy jobs and hamstring education. Kids who were out of school would congregate in malls and spread the virus anyway. Better, he argued, to let the virus burn through the population while concentrating on an effective vaccine. Sitting down, he looked me in the eye and added, gruffly, “Cull the herd!”

    ….As the curve flattened, misconceptions took hold. Perhaps the biggest was that social distancing was a policy that would need to be enacted only once, for a brief period, after which the virus would be defeated and life would return to normal. With this fantasy in mind, politicians began to argue that the time had come to reopen. A number of factors—mounting economic distress, inevitable claustrophobia and fatigue, the President’s deranged tweets about “liberating” certain states, an explosion of justified protest against police brutality and racial injustice—combined to weaken the consensus around social distancing. Across the country, and despite a lack of testing-based data about how widely the virus had spread, bans on gatherings were lifted. We were tired of being shut in and shut down; we wanted to go back to the world we’d left behind in March. We told ourselves, erroneously, that our social-distancing efforts had defeated the virus….

    …In retrospect, one of the biggest weaknesses in our pandemic planning was that many infectious-disease experts, including me, focussed on the threat posed by a novel strain of influenza. We feared a repeat of 1918—and yet, because we now have the technology to create and mass-produce a new flu vaccine in only a few months’ time, a flu pandemic isn’t necessarily the worst-case scenario. As we are currently discovering, designing and testing an entirely new vaccine against a never-before-seen infectious disease is a far more uncertain and daunting task. The fact that the novel coronavirus is RNA-based, like H.I.V., intensifies the difficulty. It’s possible that a vaccine will arrive this year—but many experts think that it could be two years or even longer before a safe and effective shot has been developed, tested, manufactured, and made widely available.

    The challenge, therefore, isn’t just flattening the curve but keeping it flat—holding the line not for months but for years….

    ….Holding the line against the virus will require still other changes. Masks should be mandatory in shared social spaces. Air travel should be restricted and reconfigured. States should be testing and quarantining international and domestic travellers. Almost certainly, we will have to make adjustments we haven’t yet anticipated….

    ….Individually, we must opt to wear masks in public, to wash our hands frequently, to separate ourselves from our families if we become ill. Individually, we must commit to practicing the “three D’s” of respiratory-virus hygiene: keeping our distance, and limiting the diversity and the duration of interactions outside our households. We must choose to ignore the ill-informed politicians and business leaders who are telling us that it’s perfectly fine to congregate, that the virus isn’t a real threat, and that the crisis is over. We must refuse to give up on flattening the curve. It’s up to us to hold the line until our government catches up….

    ….No one in that crowded ballroom imagined a stubborn, persistent pathogen like the novel coronavirus; we were thinking of influenza, which tends to burn out as temperatures rise. And none of us could really imagine the quantity of death and social division that such a policy would entail. It’s clear now that the coronavirus pandemic, if it’s poorly managed, could rival not just the 1918 flu pandemic but also the Black Death of the fourteenth century [!!? It’s economically disruptive, but it doesn’t kill so many people – SF] ] and the cholera pandemics of the nineteenth century in terms of death toll. [mabe cholera, but not really – SF] We will see millions more cases worldwide and hundreds of thousands more deaths at a minimum; we could vastly exceed those numbers if containment fails before treatments are ready. [Treatments will be ready in October -SF] And those deaths will be concentrated among the poor, the vulnerable, and the marginalized. The collective achievement of flattening the curve in the early months of the pandemic will be meaningless by comparison. [Hs mother died within a day of diagnosis in February, age 83]

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)


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