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7/30/2020

Herman Cain Dies of COVID-19

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:29 am



Herman Cain has died of COVID-19.

After opposing wearing masks:

This is shocking and horrible. His death should not be viewed as just retribution — although I predictably see lefties doing so online — but as the very sad event it is.

That said, while masks are not the be-all and end-all, they do seem to serve an important purpose. I hope this tragic ending to Cain’s life serves as a warning to people now taking the stance he so recently took.

I do not think it will.

UPDATE: As I said on Twitter:

Radical leftists will cheer; radical Trumpists will fail to learn the lesson. Radicalism is a disease, and it kills both bodies and souls.

70 Responses to “Herman Cain Dies of COVID-19”

  1. The GOP is more and more becoming a literal death cult.

    Victor (a225f9)

  2. This is very sad. My condolences to his family for their loss.

    Masks are a good choice to make but so is social distancing and hand washing. Plus isolating, when possible. Traveling and attending multiple gatherings and venues as he had done dramatically increases exposure, whether you wear a mask or not.

    DRJ (aede82)

  3. UPDATE: As I said on Twitter:

    Radical leftists will cheer; radical Trumpists will fail to learn the lesson. Radicalism is a disease, and it kills both bodies and souls.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  4. DRJ: true.

    My guess is that if you refuse to wear a mask because you’re “FED UP” then you’re probably FED UP with a lot of other critical safety measures as well. It’s a mindset.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  5. He was probably going to catch the bug anyway. He was old. It is simply a tragedy. Had this not been a politician who weighed in on taking a risk he shouldn’t have taken, that would be it. It’s useful to criticize him but I don’t think necessary. Most of those who are willing to be persuaded are wearing the masks at this point. Sad time for any conservative politician to go, seeing the nation like this.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  6. I’m probably lefty-er than most regulars, and yes, some of the noise is predictably tacky.

    I don’t see it as retribution – I don’t see any sin on Cain’s part that would merit a nasty death. (There are certainly acts that make us want others to suffer horribly, but it is never justified.)

    I see it as just another sad, stupid case of cause and effect, not that different than drunk driving.

    john (cd2753)

  7. Lived a full life. R.I.P.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  8. A sad end for a man who lifted himself out of poverty with intelligence, hard work and determination, proving the American dream is accessible to all.

    Dave (1bb933)

  9. I see it as someone making a choice about how to live his life. I think masks help protect people, but virtually everyone is at risk and we don’t have all the answers about this disease.

    DRJ (aede82)

  10. This is very sad. Prayers for his family and loved ones.

    It’s very sad to see how a simple precaution available to everyone, no matter race, income, or position has become so politicized, rather than just seen as a science-based step we can all take to help limit transmission.

    He was probably going to catch the bug anyway. He was old.

    I object to this characterization. My mom is 90 years old, and healthy as a horse. She hs taken every precaution recommended, and thus far, removed virus-free.

    Dana (ba039d)

  11. although I predictably see lefties doing so online —

    Of course it is tragic. But that’s a bit harsh.

    Righties, ideological conservatives and NeverTrumpers aren’t exactly free from the symptoms of the ‘we told you so’ syndrome either:

    Example; Paul is hardly a lefty– as noted on another thread:

    “Mr. Nein-Nein-Nein went to Trump’s infamous Tulsa rally, maskless and non-socially distanced like everyone else, then caught the CV19 not long after, and now he’s dead. He may have caught it elsewhere because was he maskless at other public appearances, but he followed Trump’s lead instead of the science, all the way to the ICU. I predict that Trump will kill tens of thousands more of the very people who would’ve voted for him, because they foolishly listened to a fool, and now they won’t vote for him because they’ll be dead (although if some of those dead Americans are in Chicago, they still may vote for him) RIP, Mr. Cain.
    Paul Montagu (dead92) — 7/30/2020 @ 8:06 am”

    This bug has no political allegiance or agenda anymore than Vesuvius did before it buried Pompeii or that killer asteroid ended the reign of the dinosaurs.

    This is just a matter of common sense.

    The party of “personal responsibility” should be unified in actually practicing “personal responsibility” – if only for preventative maintenance.

    Social distance and wear a mask. We’re a smart species; we can beat this bug.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. I object to this characterization. My mom is 90 years old, and healthy as a horse. She hs taken every precaution recommended, and thus far, removed virus-free.

    Dana (ba039d) — 7/30/2020 @ 9:09 am

    That’s fair, Dana. There are many out there who have radically changed how they live, or already were living so independently they could change how they get groceries and radically reduce their risks.

    Cain was actively involved, in person, travelling. I think the whole picture was against him unfortunately.

    Lived a full life. R.I.P.

    NJRob (eb56c3) — 7/30/2020 @ 9:08 am

    True.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  13. Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall

    Dave (1bb933)

  14. For now, medicine says masks don’t protect the wearer, masks help protect other people from being infecting by the wearer. But even that must be combined with social distancing, handwashing, and isolating when possible.

    Maybe Cain didn’t care about masks but it was someone else who may or may not have been wearing a mask who infected him. His chances of being infected also go up if he was traveling, attending large gatherings, not social distancing, not handwashing frequently, and being around people who did not wear masks. Those things seem to go together but, based on current knowledge, not wearing a mask is not dangerous to self but to others.

    DRJ (aede82)

  15. but it was someone else who may or may not have been wearing a mask who infected him.

    Great point.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  16. based on current knowledge, not wearing a mask is not dangerous to self but to others.

    But then, Louie Gohmert blames his mask for givig him the bug.

    No comment from the mask yet. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  17. In pandemics like this, we have to change how we live. Most people here have done that and many Americans have done that, but it isn’t something everyone can or will do. That is how things work in our country. Persuasion and tolerance go much further in the long run than mandates and hostility.

    DRJ (aede82)

  18. We’re a smart species; we can beat this bug.
    Apparently not, or we if we were unified in our response (masks and social distancing) it would have been if not beaten, certainly have bent the curve.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  19. 17. Good. Thank you for linking that.

    DRJ (aede82)

  20. Radicalism is a disease, and it kills both bodies and souls.

    Radicalism is define as: the beliefs or actions of people who advocate thorough or complete political or social reform.

    Which doesn’t speak well for radicals-of-their-time Jefferson, Adams or Franklin. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  21. I’m fed up about masks, too, but I’ll wear them where necessary.
    I’m more fed up that this great country is failing miserably at containing this virus. Trump is presiding over this nation and, at practically every turn, he hasn’t taken it seriously. Yesterday, 1,485 Americans succumbed to the virus, Cain being one of them. Herman Cain was a great American, and a great American success story. But he fell for Trump’s stupid, ignorant propaganda, like so many other Americans, and who knows how many more Americans will die from Trump’s misinformation and disinformation. Yeah, I’m fed up.
    Right now–comparing all other causes of death over a four-month period–CV19 is our 3rd largest killer.
    Another random thought. Which country right now has a freer economy, the United States or South Korea. It’s been South Korea since last March, all because its citizens agreed to be inconvenienced with masks, a good testing regimen and good contact tracing.

    Paul Montagu (dead92)

  22. Lived a full life. R.I.P.

    His life was cut short. Unnecessarily. Because of Trumpian propaganda. Because he worked for Newsmax, a pro-Trump right-wing propaganda outlet that serves to amplify Trump’s lying voice.
    We’ll now never know what future contributions he could have made. Seventy-four isn’t that old. Trump is 74.

    Paul Montagu (dead92)

  23. Just goes to show you how much Chinese virus developers hate black people.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  24. OT- NASA has successfully launched its Perseverance rover this morning on its journey to Mars, where it should land in the Jezero crater on February 18, 2021.

    Outstanding.

    It carries 23 cameras in total, and two microphones. The rover is accompanied by the helicopter Ingenuity, which will help Perseverance to scout for locations to study.

    A frigging helicopter to explore Mars. Incredible. What a time to be alive.

    We’re a helluva smart species. So the rest of you dummies– WEAR A MASK.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  25. @19. Persevere. See #25.

    And wear a mask.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  26. A frigging helicopter to explore Mars. Incredible.

    Reaganomics!

    Dave (1bb933)

  27. @27. No.

    Electronics.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. Just goes to show you how much Chinese virus developers hate black people.

    It’s a good point that given what we have observed thus far, African-Americans (and Latinos too) should be extra-careful just in case there really is a genetic component to this virus. Just as Mr. Cain, a cancer survivor, would have likely been at heightened risk of death once he was diagnosed with the virus.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  29. Cain had serious underlying health conditions that put him at increased risk to contract Covid, as well as being able to recover from the disease. All of which makes it even more unfortunate that he followed Trump’s lead:

    In 2006, Cain was given a 30% chance of survival from stage 4 colon cancer that had spread to his liver. He underwent chemotherapy and surgery to remove the cancer from his liver and was declared cancer free in 2007.

    Dana (292df6)

  30. Example; Paul is hardly a lefty– as noted on another thread…

    Just to make it crystal clear, DCSCA, and in light of Patterico’s comment that “radical leftists will cheer”, there is no cheering coming from from this traditionally conservative Republican. My predominant emotion is pissed-offedness that Mr. Cain died before his time. I dare say he’d be alive today had he taken a few precautions, one of them being to stay away from a Trump political rally.

    Paul Montagu (dead92)

  31. It is being reported that Cain contracted the virus soon after attending Trump’s Tulsa rally. Photos from the rally show him surrounded by #BlackVoicesforTrump supporters, and no one is wearing a mask, nor social distancing.

    Dana (292df6)

  32. As much as we have any ability to keep ourselves and those around us healthy by wearing a mask, social distancing, and staying home when possible, it’s astonishing that in a first-world country, so many refuse to make these simple changes a habit in our daily lives.

    Dana (292df6)

  33. OT- WADR to the passing of John Lewis, it’s about time he was planted. It has been nearly a week and he has been carted all over the place- mostly at taxpayer’s expense- and has to be getting a little ripe by now.

    Lewis’ televised funeral hs been carried on all the news cablers– and there are other things going on. Still, Catching the be-masked Stenny Hoyer trying to clap to a Negro spiritual while glancing side-eyed at the cameras says it all. All the pols in attendance- on our dimes BTW– have work to do- like getting a deal and passing the Covid package before they scurry off for their August recess.

    But then, Americans don’t want to be governed– they wish to be entertained. And a televised funeral- akin to that funeral scene from 1968’s ‘Planet of the Apes’ –does just that.

    “The dear departed once said to me, “I never met an ape I didn’t like.” – ‘Planet of the Apes’ 1968

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  34. There’s a CBS News clip showing the funeral service for John Lewis. Indoor church, way more than ten attendees, predominantly African-Americans who we believe as a race seem to be particularly susceptible to COVID.

    Seriously, I believe that COVID is real and that wearing masks is the safe option, but how much longer are we going to put up with the idea that certain groups are exempt from the regulations that are being forced upon the rest of us because they have intersectionality clout? First with the look-the-other-way attitude during large street protest gathering while at the same time closing beaches and writing citations for people who want to surf, and now this. I hope nobody who supports the Lewis funeral service will in the very next breath criticize average everyday Californians who long to return to our own houses of worship.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  35. And should — God forbid — someone contract the COVID virus from attending the Lewis funeral you can bet that it will never ever be reported on by mainstream news organizations.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  36. @36-
    I’m sure we’ll hear it from you.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  37. I’m sure we’ll hear it from you.

    How exactly will I know, Rip?

    JVW (ee64e4)

  38. His life was cut short. Unnecessarily. Because of Trumpian propaganda. Because he worked for Newsmax, a pro-Trump right-wing propaganda outlet that serves to amplify Trump’s lying voice.
    We’ll now never know what future contributions he could have made. Seventy-four isn’t that old. Trump is 74.

    Paul Montagu (dead92) — 7/30/2020 @ 10:01 am

    Your hatred of Trump is noted again and again. He lived a full life, on his terms. Don’t speak for the dead. You haven’t earned the right.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  39. I just watched Bush pay tribute to John Lewis. What a beautiful and heartfelt tribute. Everyone should listen to it.

    With that, when the cameras panned the audience, everyone was masked, and social distancing (in groups, perhaps families).

    Dana (292df6)

  40. Your hatred of Trump is noted again and again. He lived a full life, on his terms. Don’t speak for the dead. You haven’t earned the right.
    One, the more accurate word is contempt for Trump, as a man and as a president. The real question is why more Republicans don’t share that contempt.
    Two, I’ll speak for anyone as I goddam well please, alive or dead. I have that right.

    Paul Montagu (1ef895)

  41. @38-
    Gateway Pundit, American Greatness, Breitbart, OANN, InfoWars, Newsmax, Sinclair Broadcasting, and The Daily Caller are all writing their stories now.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  42. I just watched Bush pay tribute to John Lewis. What a beautiful and heartfelt tribute. Everyone should listen to it.

    With that, when the cameras panned the audience, everyone was masked, and social distancing (in groups, perhaps families).

    Dana (292df6) — 7/30/2020 @ 11:58 am

    As DCSCA pointed out, he was sincere and succinct. Worth its own post.

    Dustin (4237e0)

  43. @38-
    And WorldNetDaily.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  44. If a non famous white dude happens along the John Lewis funeral procession, does he get done like the unfortunate inquisitive fellow in the opening scene of Live and Let Die (1973)?

    urbanleftbehind (08b3a1)

  45. Pro-Trump youth group TPUSA deleted a tweet mocking protective masks after its cofounder died of the coronavirus

    The conservative youth group Turning Point USA deleted a tweet mocking protective masks after its cofounder Bill Montgomery died at 80 of complications related to COVID-19.
    ……
    The group, established by (Charlie) Kirk and Montgomery in 2012, has criticized public-safety measures designed to slow the spread of the disease, such as wearing masks.

    The tweet mocking masks, posted on Tuesday, featured a meme of Nicolas Cage and the message “me not wearing a mask while a leftist screams at me from their car from across the parking lot at whole foods.”

    By Thursday morning, the tweet was no longer on Turning Point USA’s Twitter feed. It wasn’t immediately clear why the tweet was deleted.
    …..
    (Kirk) has been highly critical of masks — on his podcast on Sunday, he said that mandating that people wear masks was wrong. “Do not force me to wear a mask. It’s that simple,” he said. “I’m not going to do it. I’m not.”
    ……

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  46. Gateway Pundit, American Greatness, Breitbart, OANN, InfoWars, Newsmax, Sinclair Broadcasting, and The Daily Caller are all writing their stories now.

    That’s great, but how will I get the information?

    The point is this: either you sincerely believe that indoor church services with more than a handful of attendees — even if masked — and with singing is inherently dangerous, or you think it is relative safe. I have a strong hunch that plenty of the people at the Lewis funeral have previously criticized Governor Kemp for being too lax in his lifting of stay at home orders, and when the politics of it works in their favor will be happy to resume criticizing indoor church gatherings or GOP rallies as playing Russian roulette. Again, this is exactly what we saw with the protests/riots of the past couple of months. And yet these are the first people to shout, “Believe the science!”

    JVW (ee64e4)

  47. @31. My predominant emotion is pissed-offedness that Mr. Cain died before his time. I dare say he’d be alive today had he taken a few precautions, one of them being to stay away from a Trump political rally.

    Well, he certainly was in the risk zone given preconditions and age. But then that Republican Party GOP ‘personal responsibility’ thing is the snag. Trump pondered out loud the possible potential of injecting bleach or having your insides bathed in UV light but Cain and others didn’t rush to ingest Clorox or swallow a backlight.

    Freedom of choice. He chose to attend the rally; Trump didn’t force him to go.

    “He chose… poorly.” – Grail Knight [Robert Eddison] ‘Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade’ 1989

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. That’s great, but how will I get the information?

    I guess that answers my question, Rip Murdock. I’ll just wait for you to pass it along the latest word from those organizations in one of your comments.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  49. @40/@43.

    It was.

    Be brief. Be sincere. Be seated.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. I’ll just wait for you to pass it along the latest word from those organizations in one of your comments.
    Highly unlikely, I know about the organizations by (low) reputation only. I have never linked to them.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  51. I hope this tragic ending to Cain’s life serves as a warning to people now taking the stance he so recently took.

    I don’t recall his stance against the China travel ban.

    And, if he had a weakness for exotic wet markets and bat head soup, or pretended that doesn’t still go on, I don’t remember that either.

    That said, R.I.P. Mr. Cain. You lived a full life, by your own rules.

    beer ‘n pretzels (1e9784)

  52. Dustin @ 43,

    Done.

    Dana (292df6)

  53. hey that’s cool!

    Dustin (4237e0)

  54. His life was cut short. Unnecessarily. Because of Trumpian propaganda.

    No, not because of ‘Trump propaganda.’ Because he apparently made some unwise decisions- like given his preconditions and age, attending that rally w/o a mask in spite of precautionary evidence to the contrary. That’s on him- it was his decision, not Trump’s.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  55. @53. BTW, IMO, it certainly was the better of the three POTUS presentations.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  56. Paul,

    your slander of God in a curse is noted.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  57. So is your whiny lecturing, Rob.

    Paul Montagu (1ef895)

  58. In today’s death news, so far Florida and Arizona and, let’s see, Mississippi have all posted one day highest death rates from something that’s really just like the common cold only more contagious , more deadly and more likely to leave the victim with long term health problems.

    So, sure, the new normal.

    Victor (a225f9)

  59. This recession is already deep. If Congress fails to act, a lot of damage could be permanent.

    …..The nascent recovery appears to be faltering in July, and lawmakers are more divided than ever over what to do about it.

    The risk is growing that the economy is going to backslide, a painful scenario where workers who regained jobs in May and June lose them again, and businesses that had started to reopen are forced to shutter, possibly forever. It’s already happening in parts of the country that are seeing a spike in coronavirus cases.

    Once the downward spiral starts — more job losses leading to less consumer spending leading to more business closures leading to more job losses — it can lead to an even deeper downturn that permanently damages the economy for years to come. Economists say the United States is not spiraling yet, but the nation is at an inflection point.

    …..[T]here’s growing consensus among economists that the best tool the nation has to prevent a long, ugly downturn is for Congress to go big on another relief package.

    Out of 25 economists surveyed by The Washington Post, 20 urged Congress to pass a stimulus of $2 trillion or more. The others, mostly conservative economists, agreed that Congress needs to act by mid-August. They favored a roughly $1 trillion package.
    ……
    Right-leaning economists said Congress should focus on ways to make the nation safer, including at schools and workplaces, so people can resume more daily activities. Now is not the time to worry about the debt, they say.

    “This recession was a huge consumption shock. Health care, food, transportation, all those things collapsed,” said Doug Holtz-Eakin, a former economic adviser to George W. Bush and John McCain. “We have to do things to ensure people’s safety and make them feel confident to go back out. Spend what you need to do it.
    …..
    …..It now appears the recovery is fizzling.

    New unemployment claims have climbed the past two weeks to 1.4 million, an alarming sign that layoffs are likely becoming permanent. Credit and debit card spending has retreated in July, real-time data show. Consumer confidence plummeted this month with large drops in Michigan, Florida, Texas and California where coronavirus cases are on the rise. And trackers of small business revenue are once again declining.
    …..
    Many economists worry this is Congress’ last chance to act before the election and there won’t be another bill until February. It’s another reason many urge Congress to do more.

    “We should be trying different things: stimulus payments, unemployment benefits, aid to state and local governments, aid to small businesses. Some of these things will be more effective than others, but it’s much better to err on the side of excess,” said Gus Faucher, chief economist at PNC Financial Services.
    ……..

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  60. RIP Mr. Cain.

    Colonel Haiku (607a84)

  61. This is fun. Jared’s team had put together a plan for nation wide testing in April, but Trump put the kibosh on it because it would only benefit Democratic lead states:

    But the effort ran headlong into shifting sentiment at the White House. Trusting his vaunted political instincts, President Trump had been downplaying concerns about the virus and spreading misinformation about it—efforts that were soon amplified by Republican elected officials and right-wing media figures. Worried about the stock market and his reelection prospects, Trump also feared that more testing would only lead to higher case counts and more bad publicity. Meanwhile, Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, was reportedly sharing models with senior staff that optimistically—and erroneously, it would turn out—predicted the virus would soon fade away.

    Against that background, the prospect of launching a large-scale national plan was losing favor, said one public health expert in frequent contact with the White House’s official coronavirus task force.

    Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

    That logic may have swayed Kushner. “It was very clear that Jared was ultimately the decision maker as to what [plan] was going to come out,” the expert said.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

    Victor (a225f9)

  62. Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

    Conversely, Trump’s brief and temporary pivot toward seriousness last week was driven by alarm that the virus was now killing “our” people (i.e. in red states):

    In the past couple of weeks, senior advisers began presenting Trump with maps and data showing spikes in coronavirus cases among “our people” in Republican states, a senior administration official said. They also shared projections predicting that virus surges could soon hit politically important states in the Midwest — including Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin, the official said.

    This new approach seemed to resonate, as he hewed closely to pre-scripted remarks in a trio of coronavirus briefings last week.

    Disgraceful.

    Dave (1bb933)

  63. rip, Mr. Cain.

    mg (8cbc69)

  64. Herman Cain must have been more sick than they let on when it was announced that he had the disease.

    Paul Montagu (dead92) — 7/30/2020 @ 10:01 am

    His life was cut short….We’ll now never know what future contributions he could have made. Seventy-four isn’t that old. Trump is 74.

    Last year, Trump wanted to name him to the Federal Reserve Board. (but he withdrew his nomination when several Republican Senators told him they wouldn’t vote to confirm.)

    Regis Philbin stayed on television till the age of 80 and then lives almost nine years more. Kirk Douglas and Olivia de Haviland, don’t ask.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/30/2020 @ 12:08 pm

    Freedom of choice. He chose to attend the rally; Trump didn’t force him to go.

    He forced him to sign a liability waiver, though, as a condition of attending, and agree not to blame the Trump campaign if he got infected. He tested positive nine days later, but his family says it is not at all clear where and how he got infected. There were many other possibilities.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  65. Some recent statistics for New York:

    The ) deaths for July 11 was revised to around 10 a bit later.

    1. 286 hospitalized, the lowest since March 17.

    2. 142 in an ICU, the lowest since March 16.

    3. 72 intubated, the lowest since March 15.

    4. 13 deaths

    5. 777 new cases.

    I think these are for New York State two or three days ago.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  66. I hear of people who died. The Chazan for Rosh Hashanah for our shul, who came over at the end of Tisha B’av yesterday,said his father (who must have been well into his 90s and was getting very frail) died of corona on the 2nd day of Nisan. That would Thursday night or Friday, March 26 and 27, 2020.

    That is somebody I knew. He used to be taken there every Rosh Hashonah. This is, I think, the closest I’ve been to somebody who passed away from this.

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

  67. RIP Herman Cain. I first became aware of Mr. Cain when he was a guest on Neal Boortz’s radio show. He always presented a upbeat fun conversation on the days events. I was excited when he ran for president because he was a non-establishment, black conservative, which I thought the country needed right then. But of course Demoncrats will never allow a black conservative to become president, so he was attacked viciously, not on political grounds but on personal ones. Thank you Mr. Cain for your difference of opinion. Unlike some, I welcome it!

    As an aside, Neal Boortz is still kicking it on Twitter. His handle is TalkMaster. Look him up for some good anti-Trump, irreverent humor.

    anounymouse (e2ed1b)

  68. ^(. I went to that Twitter account and saw this picture and thread:

    https://twitter.com/Talkmaster/status/1289630451766718464

    Sammy Finkelman (fe6a9b)

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