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7/21/2020

New Strategy: ‘Leaning In’ To The Pandemic

Filed under: General — Dana @ 4:29 pm



[guest post by Dana]

When you are the President of the United States and a pesky pandemic hasn’t worked to your political advantage and just won’t go away in spite of your efforts to wish it away, and as a result, you find yourself being judged by Americans for your incompetence and lack of an effective response to a virus impacting the entire nation that you lead, and you finally get a clue and mutter to yourself, “Oh, shit, I could lose the election because of this,” there is only one thing left for you to do: embrace the pandemic:

Meanwhile, Joe Biden has weighed in on the issue of masks in a new campaign ad:

–Dana

184 Responses to “New Strategy: ‘Leaning In’ To The Pandemic”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (25e0dc)

  2. Better late than never.

    I can’t wait to see his about-face on DACA.

    norcal (a5428a)

  3. The jitter you just felt in the rotation of the earth was all the Trump supporters suddenly turning a 180 and running with Trump’s new message.

    (At least he’s getting closer to the right message. Too bad it’s months late.)

    Nic (896fdf)

  4. Too bad it’s 140,000 deaths later.

    Dana (25e0dc)

  5. 2. That will take place about a week from now – it’s really a reversal on a president’s authority, since he has always said he is for DACA, but wanted to extract concessions on immigration law from Congress, except he kept raising the ante.

    Meanwhile today he ordered the Census Bureau not to count unauthorized immigrants as part of the population of the United States. Besides being against all precedent and the law, how are they supposed to do it?

    Sammy Finkelman (5b43a3)

  6. Not only a 180 but they will claim they and Trump have been saying this all along.

    DRJ (aede82)

  7. Donald Trump gave a coronavirus briefing today, all alone.

    The opposition or somebody was quick to point out that Trump attended a fundraiser without wearing a mask ad mingled with people. His Press Secretary said Trump is tested (by the way he gets results, too, and it’d also a point with them that anyone who gets in close proximity with him or Mike Pence is tested too and must have a negative test result before they get close) she said sometimes more than once a day.

    When Trump was asked about it, he said he couldn’t think of any day when he was tested twice.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b43a3)

  8. Of couse they will. And they’ll say it through their brand new masks.

    Dana (25e0dc)

  9. Just call him Waffles. How long until he needs to warm the other side?

    (I’m actually really glad he finally pulled his head out.)

    john (cd2753)

  10. @5 Sammy, if Trump was for DACA, then why was he trying to end it up until recently? If it was because he thought Congress was the proper, Constitutional way to address it, why is he now going to issue an executive order (and not only continue DACA, but throw U.S. citizenship as well)? SMDH

    norcal (a5428a)

  11. *in

    norcal (a5428a)

  12. Ugh:

    “Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact,” he said, adding later: “I’m getting used to the mask.”

    Interestingly, at today’s revival of the coronavirus pressers, only Trump spoke. When questioned why the team wasn’t speaking, he said that Dr. Birx was right outside the door listening. It’s enough to make a person suspect that informing Americans about where we’re at with the crisis really wasn’t the goal today…

    Dana (25e0dc)

  13. Trump also said that things are going to get worse before they get better, which is considered new for him, at least recently.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b43a3)

  14. Notice the weaselly language–“many people say that it is Patriotic to wear a face mask”. I’m not saying it, mind you, but here’s a photo of me in a face mask. Plus, I’m patriotic!

    norcal (a5428a)

  15. He echoed that same sentiment back in April, Sammy, when he said we would have a “rough two weeks ahead”. Just two weeks though…

    Dana (25e0dc)

  16. Biden’s ad is similar to the others. Sure it’s a nice contrast to the negativity. The responsibility comments and the image of red Texas and Florida sure seem to be intentional. They let the audience finish the point.

    But he’s not really promising much.

    Meanwhile Trump is just awful. I heard he wished ghislaine maxwell well. I didn’t think he wanted to be president in 2016 and I don’t think he wants it today either. Why else would he say that?

    Dustin (064e00)

  17. But he’s not really promising much.

    Here’s the thing: I don’t think he has to promise much. Anyone but Trump is a thing now. And only one person is responsible for that.

    Dana (25e0dc)

  18. @5 norcal (a5428a) — 7/21/2020 @ 4:49 pm

    Sammy, if Trump was for DACA, then why was he trying to end it up until recently?

    Politics. But he always would say he’s for it in principle. It;s a little like him trying to have the courts overtrn Obamacare without replacing it, although he says he;s for replacing it and especially keeping no refusal because of pre-existing conditions.

    If it was because he thought Congress was the proper, Constitutional way to address it, why is he now going to issue an executive order (and not only continue DACA, but throw U.S. citizenship as well)? SMDH

    He says it is because of the recent Supreme Court decision on DACA. I do;t see how he can throw in anything about U.S. citizenship. We’ll see what he comes up with. He can always throw in a request for legislation.

    Meanwhile he’s tacking the other way, too, at least with the Census.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-taking-action-ensure-american-citizens-receive-proper-representation-congress

    This is so vague you have n idea what he;s talking about.

    He’s also talking about “merit-based” immigration (translation less family reunification) Does he think he can add restrictions not enacted into law?

    Sammy Finkelman (5b43a3)

  19. 16. Dustin (064e00) — 7/21/2020 @ 4:59 pm

    I heard he wished ghislaine maxwell well. I didn’t think he wanted to be president in 2016 and I don’t think he wants it today either. Why else would he say that?

    To avid an accusation of hypocrisy. He was friendly with her. Maybe 20 years ago, And it sounds neutral.

    Sammy Finkelman (5b43a3)

  20. Here’s the thing: I don’t think he has to promise much. Anyone but Trump is a thing now. And only one person is responsible for that.

    Dana (25e0dc) — 7/21/2020 @ 5:02 pm

    Clearly you’re right. If Biden were to roll up his sleeves and try any risk taking leadership, Trump and the russian bot net, and amazingly, the MSM, they would all find a way to get a sensationalist fight out of it. Suddenly the race would tighten right up.

    By laying low, making the most meaningless campaign in history, there is only one thing to pay attention to. And when the story is just ‘here’s Trump doing Trump stuff’ it’s not the same look as ‘here’s Trump fighting with some RINO loser or Hillary’.

    I really hope they let Kanye onto the debate stage. imma let you finish but

    Dustin (064e00)

  21. I’m sorry for the multiple comments, but this is a target-rich environment.

    Trump is back to calling it the China Virus, which he said he was going to stop doing months ago. Anybody who is vertical and breathing knows the virus came from China. Trump is just stoking animosity and casting things as us-versus-them in order to deflect from his own shortcomings. He’s been doing it ever since his ride down the escalator, when he used a broad brush to depict Mexicans (not some, but in general) as rapists and criminals.

    This assortment of his new take on masks, the impending executive order on DACA, nationalistic drum-beating, and replacing his campaign manager, reeks of desperation.

    norcal (a5428a)

  22. Trump on Ghislaine Maxwell at today’s Covid presser:

    “I wish her well.”

    That was an interesting (and disturbing) comment he made about Maxwell, who is now criminally charged. Why would he say that? Perhaps to signal to her that she better not turn on him, or a reminder that he will look after her if she is found guilty, or just Trump being a clumsy fool?

    Dana (25e0dc)

  23. @18 He can always throw in a request for legislation.

    That’s what he could have done after the Supreme Court overruled him on ending DACA. That, or he could have taken the steps laid out by the Court to properly end DACA, and then let Congress deal with it.

    But no. He’s going to see Obama’s unconstitutional order, and raise it!

    norcal (a5428a)

  24. Perhaps to signal to her that she better not turn on him, or a reminder that he will look after her if she is found guilty

    Normally it’s wise to resist that kind of assumption.

    But he just did this with Stone. So yeah, that’s how this looks.

    He really should have said ‘I want justice served but can offer no other comment in this tragic matter’

    Dustin (064e00)

  25. 22. Well, the Nixon/Manson snafu comes to mind from back in the day. Believe it or not, it was probably the safest thing the CIC could have said next to ‘no comment.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  26. No no no no. Social distance AND wear a mask. Or stay home.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  27. How can people too stupid to understand statistics or exhibit any of knowledge of the virus judge Trump as incompetent? How can idiots who believe what they read in the NYT/Wapo or watch on ABC/NBC/MSNBC/CNN etc. know whether Trump was incompetent or not?

    How can anyone who respects the moronic WH correspondents -who spent today’s press conference asking Trump six times about wearing a mask and zero about vaccines – know whether Trump was incompetent?

    rcocean (fcc23e)

  28. Besides being against all precedent and the law, how are they supposed to do it?

    Check here if you are in this country illegally ___

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  29. I believe that Ghislaine Maxwell has a lot of people looking after her, maybe all the way up to Benjamin Netanyahu and Jared Kushner, never mind a mere minion like Alan Dershowitz, and one or more of them whispered in Trump’s ear. The more I learn about her, the more I am convinced that she was the puppeteer and Epstein just another of her toys and means of support, and she is my number one suspect for his murder.

    nk (1d9030)

  30. Believe it or not, it was probably the safest thing the CIC could have said next to ‘no comment.’

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/21/2020 @ 5:20 pm

    Like in Clear and Present Danger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3-FbseDp2w

    Dustin (064e00)

  31. It’s not really Trump’s fault he took this long. You can’t just get a bespoke mask overnight.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  32. You mispelled ehud barak, just like with george mitchell and bill richardson

    Narciso (7404b5)

  33. How can people too stupid to understand statistics or exhibit any of knowledge of the virus judge Trump as incompetent?

    Actually, speaking for myself (and probably Dave), some of us DO understand statistics quite well. 99% of the population has no effing idea how to property evaluate statistics, and it shows.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  34. We’ll find it was Allison Mack running the whole thing.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  35. Nah, he was waiting for the Kushners’ new mask factory in Xinjiang (where the Uighurs are) to begin production.

    nk (1d9030)

  36. The lockdown rules neil ferguson was too careless to follow, much like fredo cuomo

    Narciso (7404b5)

  37. @33. And the other 1% are meteorologists. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  38. Other real life hellfire club,

    Narciso (7404b5)

  39. @27 rcocean, two things can be true at once. Yes, the mainstream media has a left-of-center bias (as demonstrated by the way they went after Reagan and both Bushes). However, Trump’s awfulness cannot be blamed solely on depictions by the media. We have the man’s tweets directly!

    Why do you think so many people who previously supported Republican presidents cannot support Trump? Media bias? No! The media was also biased against the previous Republican presidents, yet those presidents did not cause massive disenchantment on the right like Trump has.

    norcal (a5428a)

  40. Xinjiang where the nba has a training camp in urumqi.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  41. @28 @35 :)

    norcal (a5428a)

  42. Trump’s mask message was only 109 days after the CDC recommended that Americans use masks. Too late.
    Biden’s message was decent, and his slogan is a decent retort: Unite for a Better America.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  43. You want to lose your liberties, explain it to your children when the flame of freedom is gone, and since may you have no excuse to say otherwise.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  44. No hes not a good man he was a soviet stooge since the 70s, he was the racketman for the subprime manager the stooge behind the stimulus.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  45. “I wish her well” is not the thing a person with a conscience and semi-functioning moral compass would say to a gal who was a years-long pimp to a serial pedophile.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  46. So what do you think will happen with biden adopting cortezs energy plan, omars abolish the police stance, seriously you think anything good will happen.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  47. @4: Too bad it’s 140,000 deaths later.

    How many would be dead if Trump had done everything you wanted him to do?

    Pick a number. Be generous to yourself. Let’s say, only 1,000 would be dead. Surely, that’s not ridiculous given your supreme wisdom and medical expertise. Or Biden’s.

    If it were 1,000 we would still be here blaming Trump for it, and George Floyd too.

    What you like to forget is that if Kasich or Jeb(!) were president, they’d be in exactly the same position politically no matter the 139,000 lives they no doubt would’ve saved.

    beer ‘n pretzels (04e0ab)

  48. Remember they give cuomo a pass with his 33,000 death, same for murphy whitmer wolf et al.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  49. Australia – 126 Covid deaths

    norcal (a5428a)

  50. Even accounting for population, Australia is almost 100 times better on Covid than the U.S.

    norcal (a5428a)

  51. He allowed discretion, tens of thousands died on the east coast and the west. So did many businesses the most effective treatment was criminally demagogued by corrupt press the worse perpetrators are celebrated, the one who did anything to try to block the soread is denounced

    Narciso (7404b5)

  52. Anyone but Trump is a thing now.

    A thing now!?!? That’s been a thing since late 2015, lol.

    Colonel Haiku (2fa2ca)

  53. How many would be dead if Trump had done everything you wanted him to do?

    My estimate is tens of thousands fewer dead Americans had (1) Trump taken the virus seriously, starting in late January, (2) lit a fire under CDC to develop workable tests inside and outside their organization, (3) had Trump lifted the red tape so that corporate and university labs could jump in and quickly mass-produce their own test kits, (4) had Trump encouraged afflicted states to socially distance even one week sooner, (4) had Trump picked up on the April 3rd mask recommendations by CDC and urged Americans to wear them.
    Easily tens of thousands of lives, and the blood of those dead Americans is on Trump’s hands.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  54. “I wish her well” is not the thing a person with a conscience and semi-functioning moral compass would say to a gal who was a years-long pimp to a serial pedophile.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316) — 7/21/2020 @ 5:44 pm

    Not just a pimp to a serial pedophile, but according to the complaint, she was also an active participant in sexually abusing minor girls. She is as morally bankrupt as Epstein.

    Dana (25e0dc)

  55. 48… why yes… yes they do.

    Colonel Haiku (2fa2ca)

  56. How can idiots who believe what they read in the NYT/Wapo or watch on ABC/NBC/MSNBC/CNN etc. know whether Trump was incompetent or not?

    How can anyone who respects the moronic WH correspondents -who spent today’s press conference asking Trump six times about wearing a mask and zero about vaccines – know whether Trump was incompetent?

    rcocean (fcc23e) — 7/21/2020 @ 5:21 pm

    How can we know? The question is, how can we not know? Have you not been paying attention? Trump has been speaking and tweeting all along. By his own words, we can know. By his own actions, we can know. By his own lack of interest in the virus, we can know. By his own dismissal of the virus, we can know. My God, how can anyone not know?

    Dana (25e0dc)

  57. Making the Trumpkins’ nightmares come true if Biden is elected and the Democrats control both Houses of Congress is not a deterrent for me. It’s something I gleefully look forward to.

    You see, Simon Jester was right after all. As far as I’m concerned, anyway. I have become like the people I hate. What I want most is what Trumpkins wanted most when they elected Trump. They wanted to give the rest of us the finger. Now, what I want most is to give them the finger.

    nk (1d9030)

  58. Easily tens of thousands of lives, and the blood of those dead Americans is on Trump’s hands.

    Clearly my hypothetical wasn’t ridiculous to you. LOL

    Tens of thousands saved, had he hired you instead of Fauci, that Trump would not have been given credit for.

    Tens of thousands (hundreds??) still dead, even with you guiding Trump through the crisis, that you would still blame him for.

    beer ‘n pretzels (a7db7c)

  59. Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater, nk. Divided government is good. Keep at least one chamber Republican.

    norcal (a5428a)

  60. All the media that dined at epsteins table and more so, landon thomas having run interference for him at new york times and magazine, carter at vanity fair, same with weinstein, now they pretend to be outraged.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  61. Not just a pimp to a serial pedophile, but according to the complaint, she was also an active participant in sexually abusing minor girls. She is as morally bankrupt as Epstein.

    Ew. Trump might as well have pulled down his zipper and pissed on the Epstein/Ghislaine rape victims.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  62. Tens of thousands saved, had he hired you instead of Fauci, that Trump would not have been given credit for.

    More like tens of thousands saved had Trump taken the virus and Fauci seriously. The sad part is that all this is finally penetrating Trump’s thick skull, six months after the fact.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  63. I see her, Ghislaine Maxwell, as a cheaper and nastier version of Glenn Close’s character in “Dangerous Liaisons”. But she is Robert Maxwell’s daughter.

    nk (1d9030)

  64. This:

    Why do you think so many people who previously supported Republican presidents cannot support Trump? Media bias? No! The media was also biased against the previous Republican presidents, yet those presidents did not cause massive disenchantment on the right like Trump has.

    Dana (25e0dc)

  65. Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater, nk. Divided government is good. Keep at least one chamber Republican.

    Nah! I want the DHS thugs who are now breaking heads in Portland for Trump to be breaking heads in Sarasota for Biden; and the FBI agents who were seizing private stocks of PPE for Jared Kushner under the Defense Procurement Act to be seizing stockpiles of ammunition in Orange County for Kamala Harris.

    nk (1d9030)

  66. I really have discovered much in 10 years here, something i didnt expect. That justice would be denied so readily for an innocent man, even when the evidence is crystal clear, that there would be a united front against a terrorist laundered by corporate and charitabld fronts that denial of freedom of speech would be not accepted as par for the course

    Narciso (7404b5)

  67. That’s a weird comment to get stuck in moderation.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  68. Why do you think so many people who previously supported Republican presidents cannot support Trump?

    Because unlike 1988, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012, establishment types didn’t get the candidate they wanted, and they had a hissy fit.

    Why do you think so many people not aligned with the establishment still backed those pre-2016 nominees?

    But, no more. Will follow your hissy fit example from now on, if we don’t get our way. Congratulations.

    beer ‘n pretzels (c63793)

  69. Bush jr broke his tax pledge, dole struggled against clinton, w gave us nclb in partnership with the traitorous kennedy, mccain threw the match and the huntress under the bus, romney did a good marcel marceau act.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  70. @70 I didn’t have a hissy fit. I voted for Trump. But, that doesn’t mean I’m going to defend him no matter what he does.

    norcal (a5428a)

  71. Because unlike 1988, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012, establishment types didn’t get the candidate they wanted, and they had a hissy fit.

    There’s another possibility: Traditional conservatives and Republicans saw through Trump’s lies, bullsh*t, shallowness, immorality, amorality and general unfitness, that he was so deficient that there was no way he could be supported. We’re also wondering why it’s taking so long for that hardcore 30% who are supporting him hasn’t figured that out yet.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  72. So thats why you side with terrorists and rioters, objectively with the chinese regime that enabled this epidemics spread with the willing cooperation of adhanom, wirh cuomo who has killed more people with pharoah follow this garbage impeachment which was a criminal waste of time

    Narciso (7404b5)

  73. nk,

    You have a gift for comedy. You could easily be a writer on The Daily Show or Real Time. Happyfeet was entertaining in his twisted way, but you are broadly funny.

    Thanks for making me laugh.

    norcal (a5428a)

  74. We’re also wondering why it’s taking so long for that hardcore 30% who are supporting him hasn’t figured that out yet.

    I don’t support Trump. I support the Republican nominee (just as I did from 1988 on) because I see through the “lies, bullsh*t, shallowness, immorality, amorality and general unfitness” of the Democrats — unlike you.

    beer ‘n pretzels (04e0ab)

  75. 45.“I wish her well” is not the thing a person with a conscience and semi-functioning moral compass would say to a gal who was a years-long pimp to a serial pedophile.

    In this instance, as CIC, the broken clock was right that time of day: it was actually the best thing he could have said aside from ‘no comment.’

    Revisit President Nixon cracking wise about Charlie Manson:

    Nixon Calls Manson Guilty; Attorneys Move a Mistrial

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh9Bk17jTHg

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  76. Ah real time and stewart, is there a more pretensious pose, also camelbert who pwned rick wilson.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  77. Criticizing Trump doesn’t make me a Democrat or unable to oppose Democrats, let alone siding with terrorists, rioters, China, etc. If you have to see the world as an endless binary choice, so be it, but that doesn’t mean everyone does.

    DRJ (aede82)

  78. Alinsky Rule Number 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

    He was from Chicago, you know. He opposed Mayor Richard J. Daley when Chicago Machine Democrats were the conservatives and the Republicans were the “Lake Shore Liberals” (except in Cicero where the Republicans were the Al Capone conservatives).

    nk (1d9030)

  79. I still dont get it, he was a murderer, didnt his minions confess didnt bernardine dorn grove on it. I picked up the book on chinatown, i thought it would inform how this world came about, but it was more inside baseball.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  80. Like his compadre gramsci he should have been in prison, ayers should have dispatched readily. Nixon was a piker in so many ways.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  81. Or maybe Trump wishes Ghislaine well because he doesn’t want her to divulge anything she knows about him. Maybe her SDNY criminal case and specifically what she knows about Trump are the reasons Barr wanted Berman out.

    DRJ (aede82)

  82. What was that thing really about, did the protesters misunderstand daley or was it just one of those pantomime acts. There is so pretense and manufactured outrage over certain things but not others.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  83. Well gloria allred is her atty, so who knows she’ll come up with.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  84. 83,

    That’s what I’m guessing. I suggested it above:

    Perhaps to signal to her that she better not turn on him, or a reminder that he will look after her if she is found guilty, or just Trump being a clumsy fool?

    But I wondering, too, can he just ge that incredibly tone-deaf?

    Dana (25e0dc)

  85. Evidence is the thing, well it didnt matter with roy moore, but thats how it usually works.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  86. Sigh. Narciso, Narciso, Narciso! Gloria Allred is the attorney for several of Maxwell’s and Epstein’s accusers, not for Maxwell.

    nk (1d9030)

  87. I think Trump’s signal was to Maxwell’s circle of friends and obligors many of whom are also in Trump’s circle of friends and obligors.

    nk (1d9030)

  88. One the one i realize that the war was lost by the time of the marine landing in 65, but then all of hayden and hoffmans werent going to do anything but encourage the enemy,

    Narciso (7404b5)

  89. There was nothing to michael cohen except trying to defraud the irs he should have used geithners excuse. Stone was stupid beyond belief but thats a jailable offense in dc otherwise you could never have a quorum

    Narciso (7404b5)

  90. The U.S. reports more than 1,000 deaths in a day for the first time in July

    I guess the twelve week decline is over. Sorry Gryph.

    Rip Murdock (361788)

  91. nk is doing a very convincing impression of Telly Savalas in The Dirty Dozen

    :)

    Dave (1bb933)

  92. Yeah, right, Biden will be worse than Trump:

    Trump’s Request of an Ambassador: Get the British Open for Me
    Woody Johnson, the N.F.L. owner, Trump donor and ambassador to Britain, was warned not to get involved in trying to move the tournament to a Trump resort in Scotland, but he raised the idea anyway — and he failed.

    LONDON — The American ambassador to Britain, Robert Wood Johnson IV, told multiple colleagues in February 2018 that President Trump had asked him to see if the British government could help steer the world-famous and lucrative British Open golf tournament to the Trump Turnberry resort in Scotland, according to three people with knowledge of the episode.

    The ambassador’s deputy, Lewis A. Lukens, advised him not to do it, warning that it would be an unethical use of the presidency for private gain, these people said. But Mr. Johnson apparently felt pressured to try. A few weeks later, he raised the idea of Turnberry playing host to the Open with the secretary of state for Scotland, David Mundell.

    nk (1d9030)

  93. nk (1d9030) — 7/21/2020 @ 8:28 pm

    Lies, nk, lies. I heard that Trump had asked for the B.O. to be moved to the Trump National Doral Golf Club, in Florida.

    felipe (023cc9)

  94. Third hand gossip yawn,

    Narciso (7404b5)

  95. An obama holdover, who was totes for sadik stabby khan

    Narciso (7404b5)

  96. Keep hope alive, the walls are closing in, shirley.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  97. nk is doing a very convincing impression of Telly Savalas in The Dirty Dozen…

    Seriously? Maggott was a Southern racist and rapist. Charles Bronson’s character, on the other hand, had only fragged his officer ….

    nk (1d9030)

  98. Seriously? Maggott was a Southern racist and rapist.

    Who loves ya, baby?

    Dave (1bb933)

  99. 95. You drive for show and ‘putz’ for dough. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  100. Third hand gossip yawn

    Actually there are two named individuals with contemporary knowledge of Trump’s alleged corruption, who would be able to corroborate the charge.

    Dave (1bb933)

  101. Well they were criminals kind of the barbouzes that degaulle employed against the plastiquers, that gave them free reign in the narcotics trade the french connection

    Narciso (7404b5)

  102. Did i say she was more stable than jean carroll, my mistake

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JimHansonDC/status/1285625323044909061

    Narciso (7404b5)

  103. Inside Trump’s Failure: The Rush to Abandon Leadership Role on the Virus
    Each morning at 8 as the coronavirus crisis was raging in April, Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, convened a small group of aides to steer the administration through what had become a public health, economic and political disaster.
    ……
    ……[T]heir ultimate goal was to shift responsibility for leading the fight against the pandemic from the White House to the states. They referred to this as “state authority handoff,” and it was at the heart of what would become at once a catastrophic policy blunder and an attempt to escape blame for a crisis that had engulfed the country — perhaps one of the greatest failures of presidential leadership in generations.
    ……..
    ……..[A]n examination of the shift in April and its aftermath shows that the approach he embraced was not just a misjudgment. Instead, it was a deliberate strategy that he would stick doggedly to as evidence mounted that, in the absence of strong leadership from the White House, the virus would continue to infect and kill large numbers of Americans.

    He and his top aides would openly disdain the scientific research into the disease and the advice of experts on how to contain it, seek to muzzle more authoritative voices like Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and continue to distort reality even as it became clear that his hopes for a rapid rebound in the economy and his electoral prospects were not materializing.
    …….
    At a briefing on April 10, Mr. Trump predicted that the number of deaths in the United States from the pandemic would be “substantially” fewer than 100,000. As of Saturday, the death toll stood at 139,186, the pace of new deaths was rising again and the country, logging a seven-day average of 65,790 new cases a day, had more confirmed cases per capita than any other major industrial nation.
    ……

    Rip Murdock (361788)

  104. I guess the twelve week decline is over. Sorry Gryph.

    Hey Rip, pop the champagne!

    beer ‘n pretzels (8dac67)

  105. Dear Mr President:

    You run and you lose, not one hand will be raised as they put you in jail. Make a deal now.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  106. Yeah, right, Biden will be worse than Trump:

    Trump: Get the British Open for me.

    Biden: End 401(k)s

    That damn Trump!

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  107. This country has chronic perspective loss.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  108. Keep your hands off my 401(k). I worked too hard to get where I am.

    norcal (a5428a)

  109. Biden: End 401(k)s

    Source, Mr. Perspective?

    Dave (1bb933)

  110. #27.

    Here’s my question, rcocean: Liz Cheney, leftist RINO or full blown Stalinist?

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  111. She is the daughter of a war criminal, and is a hack for the military complex. A vile pos.

    mg (8cbc69)

  112. Wait, I thought war criminals were cool now.

    Didn’t The Great Leader pardon three of them a few months back?

    Dave (1bb933)

  113. This was Trump’s moment of candor yesterday….

    “We are developing a strategy that will be very, very powerful.”

    And then realizing that he inadvertently said something that was true, that he never had a strategy for combating this virus, followed up with this…

    “We have developed it as we go. ”

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  114. 119. Y’all are so busy ragging on Trump, and justifiably so, but where is your mistrust and criticism for Fauci? You know, the “expert” who has actually formulated the strategy that torched our economy for three months?

    Gryph (08c844)

  115. … then realizing that he inadvertently said something that was true …

    Those moments are pure magic.

    Dave (1bb933)

  116. 120.

    First of all, what we did wasn’t the Fauci strategy, unless you think wearing a condom, then taking it off midway during sex, is birth control. Spoiler alert: It isn’t. You may think it’s terribly unfair, but you don’t even get half the benefit despite having had only half the fun. Stopping midway through your antibiotic prescription is a terrible idea too. So no, we did not follow the Fauci strategy. Most of Europe did follow it, which is why they’re now in a position to re-open their economies responsibly. We can’t even visit Europe because, again, we did not follow the Fauci strategy.

    But do I understand you correctly that not only don’t you think we should have stayed the prescribed course like Europe did, but if you could do it over again, you wouldn’t have shut down at all? How many additional deaths do you think that would have caused?

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  117. You know, the “expert” who has actually formulated the strategy that torched our economy for three months?

    And had Fauci not advised social distancing for the most afflicted states, it’s not hard to conclude that the economy would’ve been even more torched, with ERs and ICUs even more stressed to the limits.
    I’ll also note that Fauci supported a CDC reopening plan that Trump and his sycophants basically ignored, and which has only extended this economic downturn. We’re seeing it right now in all the states that rushed it.
    People are looking at how Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Free Asia did it, how they contained this virus (and it wasn’t by herd immunity), and they’re looking at these United States and how we’re failing badly. Trump is the president. This is a national pandemic, exactly the sort of thing a president should be handling, and he’s killed tens of thousands of Americans by his ongoing failure that has emanated from his downtalking, his not taking this seriously, and his utter lack of a strategy to beat this.

    Paul Montagu (0a7316)

  118. I guess the twelve week decline is over. Sorry Gryph.

    Hey Rip, pop the champagne!

    Taylor’s gonna Taylor…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  119. troll droppings really stink up the place, I remember leo (dana ward) required power washing, at my favorite site, which typepad makes more selective, there were worse manifestations, which our host seems to forget,

    narciso (7404b5)

  120. “where is your mistrust and criticism for Fauci? You know, the “expert” who has actually formulated the strategy that torched our economy for three months?”

    Fauci is a member of the President’s CV task force chaired by Mike Pence, and has said he would step down if the President asked him to. Any and all of his media appearances have to be vetted by the White House. He’s where he is because The President wants him there.

    The problem wasn’t Fauci’s strategy. “Wear a mask” was treated as a joke, hoax, or threat by half the country, and is only now (apparently) being approached somewhat seriously by the President. The messaging has been all over the place.

    JRH (52aed3)

  121. The Pandemic is exposing the difference between the essential people and people the government considers non-essential.

    The non-essential people are out of work, out of money and stating to end their lives.

    Is this how the Hunger Games start?

    BillPasadena (e482e2)

  122. Capitol thinking, which is located in Denver, which district are you,

    narciso (7404b5)

  123. More Coronabros !!!

    Colonel Haiku (2fa2ca)

  124. I think Gryph will find it impossible to resist this new stylish, hi-tech, eco-friendly mask…

    Dave (1bb933)

  125. Put everyone back to work, put everyone back in schools. Let’s get America back rolling again. The worst case scenarios are not happening and not in the playbook anymore.

    The Coronabros have to acknowledge that New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Illinois made disastrous decisions in following Andrew Cuomo’s lead.

    As long as everyone else doesn’t do that, the death rate is going to be a pin prick as what it was in New York.

    We know this because in the states of Texas and Florida where the media loves to criticize the governors, they are actually approaching the same numbers of confirmed cases but they have 1/10th of the death rate.

    If New York would have had the same response as Texas and Florida, instead of 30,000+ deaths, they would have had around 3,000 deaths.

    The story here is not Florida and Texas, it is how did Andrew Cuomo and everyone who followed his lead, did so bad in those states.

    https://www.outkick.com/the-coronabros-are-sad-because-people-arent-dying-enough/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  126. I guess the twelve week decline is over. Sorry Gryph.

    Hey Rip, pop the champagne!

    I take no pleasure in being right. But it was a logical assumption that a sharp rise in CV cases would be followed by a higher death count. Gryph is living in his SD bubble.

    RipMurdock (d2a2a8)

  127. Geraldo Rivera: Trump Was ‘Brave’ to Wish Ghislaine Maxwell ‘Well’
    Fox News correspondent-at-large Geraldo Rivera on Wednesday once again rallied to the defense of accused sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell, claiming it was “brave” for President Donald Trump to wish the Jeffrey Epstein associate “well” during a Tuesday press conference.
    ….
    “When asked @realDonaldTrump said he wished #GhislaineMaxwellArrested well,” the Fox star tweeted Wednesday morning. “With media mob eager to see her lynched it was brave to weigh in. Fact: cases vs her are for crimes allegedly committed more than 25 years ago. She deserved bail & got solitary confinement: woke politics.”
    …..

    RipMurdock (d2a2a8)

  128. @137, I’m still trying to figure out why he wished her well and stressed that he’d met her many times. Even if he likes her personally and doesn’t believe the charges it’s odd.

    Time123 (53ef45)

  129. I mean, i know this is a guy who found the ‘do you have dementia’ test very hard and is bragging about passing it but this still hard to figure.

    Time123 (53ef45)

  130. 106, why do Fox News Channel personalities put their career on the line harassing dogfaced 5s and 4s? If you’re gonna do the time, be proud of the crime.

    urbanleftbehind (5df91f)

  131. @138-
    Trump, Maxwell, and Epstein share an affinity for young women, it’s just that Maxwell and Epstein liked them even younger.

    Here’s Every Time Donald Trump And Ghislaine Maxwell Have Been Photographed Together

    RipMurdock (d2a2a8)

  132. @141 I know. But why would he say that at a press conference? He has no commitment to truth and lies whenever it’s even slightly convenient regardless of how transparent it is. So did this statement help him in some way? Was it just a dumb thing to say? I have a lot opinion of the man, but media interaction is something he’s good at. It’s puzzling.

    Time123 (b87ded)

  133. I have a lot opinion of the man, but media interaction is something he’s good at.

    Pfft.

    He only knows two tricks – self-promotion and slander.

    I’m wondering how Ivanka, who her father has sexualized since she was a little girl (yes, those two birds in the foreground of this exquisitely tasteful photo are f*cking…) and who was exactly the relevant age at the relevant time (that’s Nepotism Barbie plying her trade in 1997, at the tender age of 16) might fit into this, and whether Trump also used his beauty pageants like Miss Teen USA to supply Epstein and Maxwell with new “talent” in return for … consideration.

    Dave (1bb933)

  134. #142.

    My impression from his demeanor and the sound of his voice was that he’s genuinely fond of her. If that’s so, then my all-consuming contempt for the man notwithstanding, I don’t begrudge him wishing her well, however monstrous she may be. I doubt that view finds much agreement from people of any persuasion, but I simply don’t believe anyone is obligated to abandon a friend or loved one, whatever they’ve done.

    Don’t get me wrong, if a friend of mine did something heinous, I’d stand behind whatever the justice system decided they had coming. But I’d like to believe I’d also still be there for them as a friend. If that’s what Trump was conveying, I say good for him.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  135. Covid seems to wax and wane, Dave. Anecdotally, the folks in my town seem to adjust their behavior when cases surge, so maybe isolating, distancing and masks are the keys. But there seems to be more involved. Maybe the disease has spread more than we realize (20-40% instead of the 2-4% shown in the studies) or there is increasing T cell immunity even without antibodies?

    DRJ (aede82)

  136. Trump used to be an Epstein fried, too, but dropped him when it became an inconvenient friendship. Maybe Trump has nothing to fear from his 15-year friendship with Epstein and Ghislaine but I doubt it.

    DRJ (aede82)

  137. I wonder if the D and G mutations are why some folks get Covid twice and/or it can recur so quickly

    DRJ (aede82)

  138. @145

    It seems to me extremely important whether the friend is remorseful for the heinous thing they did.

    I don’t think being someone’s friend entitles them to your friendship unconditionally.

    Also, I think it’s one thing to make a mistake in the heat of the moment, under difficult or unique circumstances, and quite another to systematically prey on the vulnerable for decades.

    Dave (1bb933)

  139. I have a lot opinion of the man, but media interaction is something he’s good at.

    Pfft.

    He only knows two tricks – self-promotion and slander.

    I’m wondering how Ivanka, who her father has sexualized since she was a little girl (yes, those two birds in the foreground of this exquisitely tasteful photo are f*cking…) and who was exactly the relevant age at the relevant time (that’s Nepotism Barbie plying her trade in 1997, at the tender age of 16) might fit into this, and whether Trump also used his beauty pageants like Miss Teen USA to supply Epstein and Maxwell with new “talent” in return for … consideration.

    Dave (1bb933) — 7/22/2020 @ 2:09 pm

    This type of speculation about Ivanka is gross. Attack/Criticize her for her work in the white house all you want but this speculation about her being abused is just gross.

    Time123 (b87ded)

  140. Time123 (b87ded) — 7/22/2020 @ 2:59 pm

    I agree, but her father is a proudly professed sexual predator whose words and deeds prove that nothing is beyond him.

    Dave (1bb933)

  141. #45.

    It seems to me extremely important whether the friend is remorseful for the heinous thing they did.

    I agree that’s very important. I’d expect the judge to take it into account at sentencing. I just don’t believe it obligates me to exclude the wrongdoer from my personal life.

    I don’t think being someone’s friend entitles them to your friendship unconditionally.

    I don’t think anyone is ever entitled to friendship. I believe my friends are in my life by grace, not entitlement.

    Also, I think it’s one thing to make a mistake in the heat of the moment, under difficult or unique circumstances, and quite another to systematically prey on the vulnerable for decades.

    Again, I agree. That’s an important consideration for the justice system. I also understand many people would decide it disqualifies the wrongdoer from being their friend. I might very well decide that myself. I’m only saying I don’t accept that there’s any obligation to purge someone from your life if they do something awful.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  142. Sorry, that’s for Time123 @150.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  143. Meanwhile at the White House, Kelly Anne when asked about the states and the Covid spikes…

    Some of these states blew through our criteria, blew through our phases and they opened up some of the industries a little too quickly, like bars

    Remember, the governors wanted complete latitude over when they would open their states, They pushed back heavily, handsomely, Republicans and Democrats, when it was falsely rumored that the President was going to be in charge of opening the states. He’s a federalist. He believes in states’ rights.

    A) It’s almost like she thinks video of her, and him, telling the states to reopen by Easter doesn’t exist.

    B) While he’s also demanding schools reopen now, you know, without science getting in the way, like with A.

    C) When he’s dispatching federal agents to cities against the wishes of the governors and mayors in “Operation Legend”. I don’t think federalist means what she thinks it means.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  144. In case you’re wondering, Trump declined to clean up his well-wishes for Ghislaine Maxwell as he left today’s briefing.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  145. @155-
    Kelly Anne and Kayleigh McEnany are “like a shovel brigade that follow a parade down Main Street cleaning up.”

    Don Regan

    RipMurdock (d2a2a8)

  146. Also, Trump wants to send in more federal, agents or something, to Chicago becuase of the shooting at a Funeral yesterday.

    This is Chicago, why not after this shooting at a funeral, or this one at a memorial after a funeral, or this one?

    It’s almost like there was a nickname for Chicago that would lead you believe that people are getting shot left and right. Like Chi-Raq or something. Maybe a movie is in the future…oh, nevermind.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  147. I’m only saying I don’t accept that there’s any obligation to purge someone from your life if they do something awful.

    Obligation, of course not.

    But I think the attitude “my friend, right or wrong” is morally perilous and responsible for a great deal of evil in the world.

    (You and DRJ have expressed more nuanced positions; the point still remains)

    Dave (1bb933)

  148. What we need is a Law and Order president, not from the TeeVee show. Donald Trump’s the man who can fix it, he alone. It will be easy, if only he was president.

    Hillary is doing a terrible job keeping all of this violence down.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  149. In other news, Devin Nunes tried to sue @DevinNunesMom and @DevinNunesCow, plus Twitter for $250M, failed. He’s sued, or suing, various people (well getting kicked out of court) to the tune of $1.35 Billion. Sure, why not.

    A filing to quash a subpoena argued that “no reasonable person would believe that Devin Nunes’s cow actually has a Twitter account” as cows “do not have the intelligence, language, or opposable digits needed to operate a Twitter account”.

    Devin Nunes and fail, words that harmonize perfectly.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  150. Former Vice President Joe Biden claimed on Wednesday that Donald Trump is the first racist elected president.

    History responded with “Ahh..aktshually…”

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  151. He only knows two tricks – self-promotion and slander.

    Which is enough win the Presidency of the United States of America.

    And in a neat trick on it’s own, he’s married to a shapely Hot Mama #3– not a waxen Mommie #2.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  152. And in a neat trick on it’s own, he’s married to a shapely Hot Mama #3– not a waxen Mommie #2.

    Call me crazy, but I think Trump’s second wife, Marla Maples, is hotter than Melania. Marla looks real. There is something fake-looking about Melania.

    norcal (a5428a)

  153. Strobe talbott was the soviet stenographer from the 70s when victor louis got him the kruschev memoirs to the 80s

    Narciso (7404b5)

  154. She made herself fake, she’d have been “aaight” with natural aging/ no surgery. But then I look forward to Amber Heard courthouse walks the same way DC looks forward to AF1 stairway walks.

    urbanleftbehind (c43dd7)

  155. 163.Former Vice President Joe Biden claimed on Wednesday that Donald Trump is the first racist elected president.

    Which would be news to anyone who ever listened to the Nixon tapes, read upon Woodrow Wilson or Andrew Jackson…

    ‘Throughout American history, presidents have uttered comments, issued decisions and made public and private moves that critics said were racist, either at the time or in later generations. The presidents did so both before taking office and during their time in the White House.

    Many of the early presidents, George Washington to Zachary Taylor, owned black slaves and held power when African Americans, Native Americans and Latinos did not have the right to vote or serve on juries and could be refused service in public accommodations. They often repeated racist views that were commonly held in their times, even when challenged by scholars or civil rights leaders.

    Before he became the nation’s third president, Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence that “all men are created equal.” But in his only book, “Notes on the State of Virginia,” published in 1785, the future president expressed a series of beliefs about African Americans that would be seen today as racist.

    He wrote that blacks were cursed with “a very strong and disagreeable odor” and were incapable of producing art and poetry. And though he said he believed slavery was immoral, he owned slaves and, historians say, carried on a sexual relationship with at least one of them, Sally Hemings. If every black slave were ever freed, he wrote, they should be deported since he believed blacks and whites could not live together peacefully.

    Andrew Jackson, the nation’s seventh president, was also a slaveholder from the South. Before he became president, he offered in an 1804 advertisement $50 for the return of a runaway slave and $10 extra “for every hundred lashes any person will give him, to the amount of 300.” In Jon Meacham’s 2008 book “American Lion: Andrew Jackson and the White House,” Meacham wrote that Jackson owned around 150 slaves and freed none of them in his will.

    As president, Jackson allowed his postmaster general to let Southerners seize anti-slavery publications, in direct violation of the First Amendment. He called the abolitionist pamphlets urging black equality “unconstitutional and wicked.”

    Jackson is widely vilified today among Native Americans for his role in forcibly removing indigenous people from their land, especially for the Trail of Tears. The removal of the Cherokee people from Georgia led to thousands of deaths.

    “The philanthropist will rejoice that the remnant of that ill-fated race has been at length placed beyond the reach of injury or oppression,” Jackson said in his farewell address.

    The Virginia-born Woodrow Wilson worked to keep blacks out of Princeton University while serving as that school’s president. When he became president of the U.S., the Democrat refused to reverse the segregation of civil service, though he had won the White House with the support of some African American men.

    In 1915, Wilson sparked outrage by screening the racist film “The Birth of a Nation” at the White House. The silent movie was the retelling of Reconstruction through the eyes of the Ku Klux Klan. The movie portrayed the KKK as heroes and African Americans as uncivilized.

    “No explanation or apology followed” after the screening, Patty O’Toole wrote in “The Moralist: Woodrow Wilson and the World He Made.”

    Wilson appeared oblivious during the “Red Summer” of 1919 — a time when communities across the country saw white mobs attack African Americans, resulting in hundreds of deaths. He spoke out against lynching but did not use the federal government’s resources to stop the violence.

    Democrat Lyndon Johnson assumed the presidency in 1963 after the assassination of John F. Kennedy and sought to push a civil rights bill amid demonstrations by African Americans. Johnson famously convinced skeptical lawmakers to support the measure and gave a passionate speech about his days as a teacher in Mexican American schools to urge Congress to pass the Voting Rights Act.

    But according to tapes of his private conversations, Johnson routinely used racist epithets to describe African Americans and some blacks he appointed to key positions.

    His successor, Republican Richard Nixon, also regularly used racist epithets while in office in private conversations.

    “We’re going to (place) more of these little Negro b-stards on the welfare rolls at $2,400 a family,” Nixon once said about what he saw as lax work requirements. Nixon also made derogatory remarks about Jews, Mexican Americans, Italian Americans and Irish Americans.

    Recently the Nixon Presidential Library released an October 1971 phone conversation between Nixon and then California Gov. Ronald Reagan, another future president… Reagan in venting his frustration with United Nations delegates who voted against the U.S. dropped some racist language.

    “Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,” Reagan said. “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries — damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes.”

    Nixon began laughing hard.

    Reagan would launch his 1980 general election presidential campaign in Mississippi’s Neshoba County — a place where three civil rights activists were murdered in 1964.’ -source, AP

    Ahhh, JoeyBee…

    Idiot Supreme.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  156. @165. No arguement there- the Georgia Peach is still ripe to bite; but wouldn’t kick any of ’em outta bed.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  157. 138 Time123 (53ef45) — 7/22/2020 @ 1:20 pm

    @137, I’m still trying to figure out why he wished her well and stressed that he’d met her many times. Even if he likes her personally and doesn’t believe the charges it’s odd.

    I don’t think he studied the charges at all.

    It may be that he feels being friendly with her in the past could be taken as a reflection on him, especially if she were to be treated as obviously guilty.

    Of course she did all this in secret, one on one.

    Sammy Finkelman (1c27d2)

  158. @167. Herself– and MGM. A straight deck carrier had more curves.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  159. DCSCA (797bc0) — 7/22/2020 @ 4:42 pm

    The Virginia-born Woodrow Wilson worked to keep blacks out of Princeton University while serving as that school’s president.

    He was born in Virginia, but he grew up in the Deep south. He was present in Georgia, as a 7-year old when Sherman was marching through it. Woodrow Wilson was an intellectual racist.

    Princeton University drew much of its student body from the south,

    You can say that Jimmy Carter was not the first president from Georgia.

    And Harry S Truman had some Confederate roots.

    When he became president of the U.S., the Democrat refused to reverse the segregation of civil service, though he had won the White House with the support of some African American men.

    In 1915, Wilson sparked outrage by screening the racist film “The Birth of a Nation” at the White House. The silent movie was the retelling of Reconstruction through the eyes of the Ku Klux Klan. The movie portrayed the KKK as heroes and African Americans as uncivilized.

    “No explanation or apology followed” after the screening, Patty O’Toole wrote in “The Moralist: Woodrow Wilson and the World He Made.”

    Wilson appeared oblivious during the “Red Summer” of 1919 — a time when communities across the country saw white mobs attack African Americans, resulting in hundreds of deaths. He spoke out against lynching but did not use the federal government’s resources to stop the violence.

    Democrat Lyndon Johnson assumed the presidency in 1963 after the assassination of John F. Kennedy and sought to push a civil rights bill amid demonstrations by African Americans. Johnson famously convinced skeptical lawmakers to support the measure and gave a passionate speech about his days as a teacher in Mexican American schools to urge Congress to pass the Voting Rights Act.

    But according to tapes of his private conversations, Johnson routinely used racist epithets to describe African Americans and some blacks he appointed to key positions.

    His successor, Republican Richard Nixon, also regularly used racist epithets while in office in private conversations.

    “We’re going to (place) more of these little Negro b-stards on the welfare rolls at $2,400 a family,” Nixon once said about what he saw as lax work requirements. Nixon also made derogatory remarks about Jews, Mexican Americans, Italian Americans and Irish Americans.

    Recently the Nixon Presidential Library released an October 1971 phone conversation between Nixon and then California Gov. Ronald Reagan, another future president… Reagan in venting his frustration with United Nations delegates who voted against the U.S. dropped some racist language.

    “Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,” Reagan said. “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries — damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes.”

    Nixon began laughing hard.

    Reagan would launch his 1980 general election presidential campaign in Mississippi’s Neshoba County — a place where three civil rights activists were murdered in 1964.’ -source, AP

    Ahhh, JoeyBee…

    Idiot Supreme.

    Sammy Finkelman (1c27d2)

  160. 167) ambers a texas gal who speaks fluent spanish, no i have no sympathy for depp

    Narciso (7404b5)

  161. Sorry I didn’t eliminate the quotes.

    Everything after the Truman line is from DCSCA

    Sammy Finkelman (1c27d2)

  162. I briefly had a thing for natalie, but that faded after v for victory.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  163. Bokasa amin mengistu those charming fellows do tell. The last two were the british and american versions of kilmonger.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  164. I would have preferred tsombe over mobutu, both better than kabila savimbi over dos santos.

    Narciso (7404b5)

  165. 136. You take no pleasure in being right?! The hell you don’t.

    Gryph (08c844)

  166. It’s so peculiar how badly people want to justify their cowardice, they’ll accept anything from the “experts” as “truth” no matter how many counterfactuals there are.

    Gryph (08c844)

  167. 147. DRJ (aede82) — 7/22/2020 @ 2:27 pm

    Trump used to be an Epstein fried, too, but dropped him when it became an inconvenient friendship.

    There are two versions of the story I heard, and in both cases it was precipitated by the manager at Mar-a-Lagoecause he tried ti get involved with a worker at Mar-a-Lago. In one Epstein started to recruit a daughter (18-years old) of one of his members to massage him (which is the way it would start) and in the other version, told by Giuliani on his radio show, and probably garbled, he wanted somebody massaging him (did that go on at Mar-a-Lago?) to do more. The manager told him he wasn’t welcome and was backed up by Donald Trump. In Giuliani’s version, the manager said she (I think Giuliani indicated it was a woman) said she would call Donald Trump and she did. Trump told him to get out and he could pick up his stuff.

    Maybe Trump has nothing to fear from his 15-year friendship with Epstein and Ghislaine but I doubt it.

    Sammy Finkelman (4b8ab4)

  168. Maybe Trump has nothing to fear from his 15-year friendship with Epstein and Ghislaine but I doubt it.

    There is always an accusation possible that he knew something.

    I think what Ghislaine now fears is something to do with money. Which might be more current than what she did with Jeffrey Eosteinn n the 1990s and possibly in the next decade also.

    Sammy Finkelman (4b8ab4)

  169. Dave (1bb933) — 7/22/2020 @ 6:36 pm

    Yeah, about that…

    “Generally, we found that the way people perceived the situation explained more variance in compliance than the Big Five traits and the Dark Triad traits,” Zajenkowski and his co-authors wrote, in discussing their results. “This finding supports the ‘strong situation hypothesis’ according to which personality traits have less room to play an important role in predicting behaviors when situational cues overpower dispositional tendencies.”

    So while the study found that “being rivalrous, caring little for others, and cynical and power-seeking may create a ‘perfect storm’ of dispositions that lead to an unwillingness to comply in a combative way,” the researchers also agreed that individual personality traits can only explain a small part of the overall variance in people’s responses to pandemic restrictions.

    And…

    “It may be that other individual differences may be more important,” the researchers wrote in a section discussing the limitations of their conclusions. “For instance, people might differ in terms of educational background and their general medical knowledge, risk preferences, or they might simply mistrust the government, all of which can influence their willingness to comply with the restrictions. Additionally, social values, fundamental motives, and moral foundations may be worth exploring in subsequent research to understand compliance patterns.”

    The authors of both papers seem to concur on the limitations of looking at Dark Triad traits in explaining responses to COVID-19 measures.

    Finally…

    The headline reads [bold mine]:

    Narcissists and Psychopaths Are more likely to Refuse to Wear Masks, Says New Research

    The take away is:

    While psychopaths and narcissists may be less likely to comply with coronavirus restrictions, the evidence doesn’t suggest that personality disorders are to blame for social-distancing failures and mask-mandate pushback.

    This is why it is not bad advice to read the whole thing.

    felipe (023cc9)


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