Trump To Restart Campaign Rallies
[guest post by Dana]
Apparently the campaign is planning on resuming the boisterous rallies sooner rather than later:
President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign is set to relaunch in-person campaign rallies in the next two weeks, campaign manager Brad Parscale confirmed to CNN.
“Americans are ready to get back to action and so is President Trump. The Great American Comeback is real and the rallies will be tremendous. You’ll again see the kind of crowds and enthusiasm that Sleepy Joe Biden can only dream of,” Parscale said in a statement.
The exact time and locations of the rallies have yet to be determined, but the campaign is in the process of outlining possible dates and venues…
The president is looking forward to an opportunity to speak directly to supporters, and focus on the economy:
He’s planning to use the events to drive home what is expected to be a major theme of his campaign: that he is the leader of the country’s reopening and economic rebound. Trump held a hastily-called press conference Friday to celebrate an unexpectedly strong jobs report, and his campaign immediately began running a massive ad campaign seizing on the news.
Concerns about large crowds gathering during a pandemic were answered with a pointed question from the president’s re-election campaign:
“Why should anti-Trump protesters be out there and not us?” a campaign adviser asked.
“While Trump is likely to face blowback for resuming in-person events while the coronavirus pandemic is still ravaging the country, his advisers contend that the recent massive protests in metropolitan areas will make it harder for liberals to criticize him.”
Reports confirm what we already know: Trump is anxious to get back on the campaign trail and rally his supporters. In spite of blaming his slipping poll numbers as FakeNews, he knows that, at five months out from the election, he needs to get his base excited about the election, and make sure they are committed to turning out for him in November.
The decision to resume rallies comes on the heels of well-attended and nationwide protests following the death of George Floyd. While elected officials had cautioned Americans to adhere to lockdown orders and not attempt to reopen businesses or congregate in churches before the all-clear was given, they have voiced support for the mass protests this past week, even though the pandemic is not over. And while health experts repeatedly warned Americans about the need to stay home, follow social distancing measures, and avoid large groups, some have decided that less science, more ideology is the way to go:
We should always evaluate the risks and benefits of efforts to control the virus. In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus. https://t.co/s9DagyjQ1J
— Jennifer Nuzzo, DrPH (@JenniferNuzzo) June 2, 2020
Clearly, this is a problem for Team Science:
[I]f we have a huge spike in cases because of these protests, will they say, “Well, it was worth it to end racism”? Maybe, except they won’t have ended racism. Sure, some will plausibly argue that any COVID-19 comeback was the result of evil Republicans reopening the churches and the barber shops. But that will be dismissed for the partisan hogwash and special pleading it will be.
And, if we don’t see a huge spike in COVID-19 cases after all of this, no one will believe the experts when we head into the fall (when it’s supposed to come back) and they say now we really mean it. So we’ll still have an intolerable amount of racism…and we’ll have another economy-crushing outbreak on our hands.
And, if—God willing—it doesn’t come back strong in the fall, well, no one will ever take these people seriously again, and for understandable reasons.
The Trump campaign is said to be considering a number of factors about where to hold the rallies with regard to coronavirus concerns, including the the level of outbreak at any possible location, and holding rallies at outdoor venues. Nonetheless, the plan is to assemble a large crowd in a limited space. Look, the issue shouldn’t be about *who* is protesting or rallying, or even the cause itself. Not if we’re talking about real health risks. All large gatherings are going to present some sort of health risk during the pandemic, especially if everyone involved is not observing social distancing measures and wearing a mask. If we see a spike of infections in the next two weeks or so as a result of the ongoing protests, then it’s just as likely that Trump rallies will also result in spike of Covid-19 cases within 14 days after the events. This isn’t hard. Large groups, we have been warned by medical professionals, increases the risk of transmission. But we also know that all causes are not equal. And that’s my gripe: elected officials need to be evenhanded and consistent in lockdown limitations and in deciding what is essential, and even more critical to Americans is the need for health officials to be consistent in their messaging about the risks surrounding Covid-19. Said messaging must be science-based, and not ideological. Americans need to to be able to trust what the health care experts are saying as much as possible. Health care professionals speaking in a professional capacity, who approve of the mass protests because they believe the cause is worth the health risk, are making determinations for Americans that are not theirs to make. If they are speaking in a professional capacity, that determination should be influenced by data and science, not personal preference. Fortunately, Dr. Fauci remains consistent in his concerns about large gatherings, and reminded us as recently as last week about the health risks large crowds present:
“It is the perfect set up for the spread of the virus in the sense of creating some blips which might turn into some surges…there certainly is a risk,” said Fauci
“It’s a difficult situation. We have the right to peacefully demonstrate and the demonstrators are exercising that right,” he continued. “It’s a delicate balance, because the reasons for demonstrating are valid and yet the demonstration itself puts oneself at an additional risk.”
Unsurprisingly, I note that the press is determined to differentiate between Trump rallies and George Floyd protests with the use of the word “despite”.:
A crowd is a crowd is a crowd. And coronavirus really doesn’t care who makes up the crowd, or why they are assembled. But if you decide that attending a protest or a rally is worth it, then just wear a mask the entire time you are in attendance, and keep a healthy distance from your neighbor. And Team Science, we need you to be just that. As for politicians being consistent and evenhanded, well, we all know better than to think that is even a possibility…
–Dana
Good morning.
Dana (0feb77) — 6/9/2020 @ 8:35 amAnd Team Science, we need you to be just that.
But that is just the point. Team Science, or at least parts of it, seem to think it is their job to way non-scientific issues against scientific risks. As you say, any large rally creates an increased risk of infection. Yet large numbers of “experts” opined that rallies for certain causes were worth it, but for other causes not. That is not science, it is politics.
Bored Lawyer (56c962) — 6/9/2020 @ 8:42 amI know, Bored Lawyer. That was what I was saying: just stick to science if you’re a doctor speaking in a professional capacity. Don’t advocate your personal point of view when speaking as a health care professional.
Dana (0feb77) — 6/9/2020 @ 8:50 amI guess that means the Trump campaign has picked a side.
Time123 (a7a01b) — 6/9/2020 @ 8:53 amAndy Slavitt @ House with garden
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BREAKING: WHO clarifies that they estimate 16% of people are asymptomatic and can transmit the virus.
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They also regret saying transmission is “very rare.”
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BIG NEWS: WHO says 40% of transmissions may be through asymptomatic people per models.
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My first thought when i read that stat (not proud, but it’s what my brain did) was ‘Is the WHO/Media just saying this because it makes protesting look safer?’
It’s hard to trust what I read.
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harkin (9c4571) — 6/9/2020 @ 8:56 am@Langerhans_isle
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When we say defund the police we don’t mean defund the police, and when we say asymptomatic transmission is very rare, we mean asymptomatic transition is not very rare.
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Democrats are the Party of Science so the novel coronavirus won’t affect crowds out liberals. Due to science.
Republicans are knuckle-dragging science deniers, so the coronavirus will lay waste to conservatives. Due to science.
Hoi Polloi (dc4124) — 6/9/2020 @ 8:57 amBored Lawyer (56c962) — 6/9/2020 @ 8:42 am
Well, the cause for which they opposed gatherings was opposition to some or all of the lockdown limitations – the George Floyd related protests are at least about something else.
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:10 amLet people do what they want.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:13 amI, for one, am very grateful to Mr. President Donald Trump, who always licks the gravy off his knife before using it to take butter from the butter dish, for volunteering his most fervent supporters to be the canaries in the coal mine for mass gatherings.
(I don’t expect that many, if any, of them will be from my or my family’s vicinity or I might feel differently.)
nk (1d9030) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:16 am“ George Floyd related protests are at least about something else.”
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The bill for damages and losses is going to be something else too. And oh yeah murders.
Imagine protesting a murder by committing murder.
harkin (9c4571) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:17 am_
Mixing mental health and politics was the linchpin in the downfall of George Smiley’s Soviet antagonist in John LeCarre’s Karla trilogy.
nk (1d9030) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:34 amTransmission by truly asymptomatic persons is indeed probably very rare, at least for serious cases, although maybe you could argue that after several generations someone might get a serious case, and transmission by touching things is also very rare, but the virus can be transmitted to someone much further away than 6 feet.
Masks are more important when worn by someone who has the disease, and ordinary masks don’t prevent infection, but they do reduce the scale of it, so much so so that what is left, in effect, becomes a vaccine. Twenty percent or more of New Yorkers have been vaccinated this way. (getting a small dose of infectious vial particles. It might be that, if you’ve previously had one or more of the four coronaviruses that merely cause colds you may be able to tolerate more without getting sick.
Sunlight and heat outside the body quickly kill the virus, and maybe even some light bulbs.
https://materion.com/resource-center/newsletters/materials-news-stats-and-chats/killing-germs-with-leds
https://www.ecmag.com/section/lighting/sanitizing-light-leds-become-disinfectant-technology
The virus can survive cold, and 48 degrees Fahrenheit is about best for it. After say 80 degrees it opens up and better quickly find a cell to infect or it is finished.
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:40 amWe don’t know that, Sammy. There is a lot we don’t know about Covid but we have given medicine a little time to learn about Covid and, more important, we have all learned a little about it, too. People can decide what degree of isolation they want to use. We may not decide correctly but there isn’t enough information to know for sure, and it will be a long time before that happens.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:47 amAnother source says 253.7 nanometers. Another says the 253-264 nanometers range.
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:47 amDr. Nuzzo is a fool who just cratered her credibility, and Trump is a fool if his rallies don’t require masks and appropriate social distancing.
Paul Montagu (567b83) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:50 amSince this thread is about the virus, more or less, I noticed that the highest numbers of new deaths are no longer in Europe. If you go here and look at yesterday’s results, they rank as follows:
Brazil: 813
USA: 586
India: 266
Mexico: 188
Russia: 112
Peru: 106
South Africa: 82
Chile: 74
Iran: 70
Italy-Pakistan: 65
Since you can’t trust the numbers from Brazil, Russia or Iran, their numbers are probably higher. And China should be in there, too, just because they’re the lying Chinese Communist Party.
The conclusion from the above is that the virus problem in Europe has been licked, although the recent death rate in Sweden is troubling.
DRJ @ 13 he lnk seems to be focusing mostly on the fact that women seem to get sick less, and me or to reasos have been offered for that.
I heard a Dr Siegel from NYU Langone discussing things about the virus in WABC very early this morning. He was asked a number of questions.
He said he didn’t understand why hydroxychloroquine was being tested for people late in the disease. (The reason should be obvious – that is part of the campaign to discredit hydroxycloroquine.)
There s a sort of a scientific reason too. There was one theory that it worked by reducing immunity, but the way it got discovered first was by people taking it not getting it or getting it less often, and there are two theories as to how to account for that.
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 9:59 amYou did not listen to my podcast link, Sammy, you only read the title. I have no problem with your choice not to listen but please do not tell anyone what it is about if you chose not to listen to it.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:02 amLive coverage of George Floyd’s funeral service on CBS, NBC,
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:03 amThat will never happen because Trump will not wear a mask. He thinks appearance is the most important thing in politics and in government, and wearing a mask is not something he will do.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:06 amI can’t listen. how to get the sound working here.
I once had it workng from two websites simultaneously but it hasn;t worked since.
No, it is working. It only works through the headphones.
But I seem to be getting George Floyd;s funeral music.
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:08 amYou had me at “Trump is a fool”. But let’s see what actually happens. With Trump “if he says it, consider it done” has the opposite meaning from the traditional one. As does “he is a man of his word”. With Trump, it is almost invariably only words and no follow through with deeds.
nk (1d9030) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:11 amPlease keep an open mind, Sammy. If you are certain about things that seem correct but may not be, then your decisions may not be correct. There are a lot of things we don’t know yet.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:16 amTeam Science is increasingly dependent on government grants, those are never given to the politically incorrect, and the people who make those grants seem to be impervious to elections.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:17 amParts of Europe are still shut down, maybe not officially but voluntarily.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:18 amTrump should not listen to those experts anyway. I mean, have you ever SEEN a virus?! He should be out there, pressing the flesh at every opportunity. If this is politically incorrect, he should make up for it by touring Covid-19 wards.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:19 amParts of Europe are still shut down
Some households are still shut down, too.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:20 amDemocrats are the Party of Science so the novel coronavirus won’t affect crowds out liberals.
Well, the Karma they get by forcing others to help the poor results in stronger qi anyway. They just have to avoid their bad horoscope days.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:24 amThere is one possible differentiation, but it depends on a statistic I’ve never seen: the average age of attendees at Trump rallies. Covid19 will have a different impact on a crowd of middle aged toolder people versus a crowd of younger people.
Kishnevi (6037f1) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:25 amI think the campaign might require temperature-taking of attendees, holding the rallies in open air arenas/stadiums, and possibly recommending – but certainly not requiring – masks. Trump doesn’t want to play to a half-filled stadium. He *needs* a full house, and all the accolades and cheers and enthusiasm that comes with it. Anything less would be unacceptable to him.
Dana (0feb77) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:28 amI am very curious how early Covid arrived in the US. We know there were deaths in the Bay area in early February. If so, it may have been in California last Fall/Winter. I thought the West Coast might have a different strain than the East Coast and it might, but perhaps the timeline explains why California is not having as many problems as the East Coast.
I have been told by an infectious disease specialist that there are doubts about how accurate the Covid antibody tests are, plus on the PCR tests some people stay positive for the virus for weeks or months. That makes it very hard to get a handle on how contagious Covid is, how long people are shedding virus, and when/whether they are safe to resume activities. We don’t know and probably won’t know for sure for years. We may have to be satisfied with what we know so far, but in life we often have to do things with incomplete information.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:29 amSome lab or medical school should make clinical trials out of his rallies and offer Covid PCR tests at the rallies and 10-14 days later for people who tested negative at the rally.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:33 amDitto the protests.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:36 amTrump is desperate. He’s trailing badly in the polls, by double digits in several battleground and swing states. His approval ratings keep falling.
So he thinks he can regain momentum by holding rallies. He misses the adoring crowds. And he’s reassembling his old campaign staff, in the hope of recreating another electoral college miracle.
However, Joe Biden is not Hillary Clinton. 2020 is not 2016.
This pandemic is not going away. Recent studies have shown that asymptomatic people are not all that contagious, but it’s not asymptomatic people we should be concerned about. It’s presymptomatic people.
Any kind of large gathering could be a petri dish for infection, whethr it’s a protest or a rally, a sporting event or a concert.
We won’t know if these large protests spread the coronavirus for weeks, if not months. So holding rallies is a fool’s errand.
But that’s Donald Trump, living in denial.
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:37 amMaybe the virus is mutating after all.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:39 amMayor Bower’s office in D.C. is offering free testing to protesters, and encouraging every protester to take advantage of it.
Dana (0feb77) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:40 amLets try again shall we
https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1270361062530048002
Narciso (7404b5) — 6/9/2020 @ 11:31 am@30 It wouldn’t surprise me if a strain of it was here in the fall. We had a really nasty strain of “flu” go through the schools in Oct/Nov.
Nic (896fdf) — 6/9/2020 @ 11:43 amWave of New Polling Suggests an Erosion of Trump’s Support
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His approval rating has fallen to negative 12.7 percentage points among registered or likely voters, down from negative 6.7 points on April 15, according to FiveThirtyEight estimates. And now a wave of new polls shows Joe Biden with a significant national lead, placing him in a stronger position to oust an incumbent president than any challenger since Bill Clinton in the summer of 1992.
He leads the president by around 10 percentage points in an average of recent live-interview telephone surveys of registered voters. It’s a four-point improvement over the six-point lead he held in a similar series of polls in late March and early April. Since then, Bernie Sanders has left the Democratic race, the severity of the coronavirus pandemic has become fully evident, and the president’s standing has gradually eroded.
Rip Murdock (a217ed) — 6/9/2020 @ 12:53 pm………
……[W]omen might be his undoing this time. He trails Mr. Biden by 25 points among them, far worse than his 14-point deficit four years ago. He still leads among men by six points in the most recent polls, about the same margin as he led by in the final polls of registered voters in 2016.
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……. [T]he decline in the president’s standing has been particularly pronounced among white voters without a college degree, helping to explain why the Trump campaign has felt compelled to air advertisements in Ohio and Iowa, two mostly white working-class battleground states where Mr. Trump won by nearly 10 points four years ago.
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……… Mr. Biden ticked up to an average of 37 percent among white voters without a degree. The figure would be enough to assure Mr. Biden the presidency, given his considerable strength among white college graduates. In the most recent polls, white college graduates back Mr. Biden by a 20-point margin, up four points since the spring. It’s also an eight-point improvement for the Democratic nominee since 2016, and a 26-point improvement since 2012.
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This is why Trump is restarting his MAGA rallies come hell or high fever.
The matriarchy will save us, comrades!
Dave (1bb933) — 6/9/2020 @ 12:58 pmDave (1bb933) — 6/9/2020 @ 12:58 pm
I can’t click through the Times paywall. What’s the date on those polls?
frosty (f27e97) — 6/9/2020 @ 1:07 pmSo he thinks he can regain momentum by holding rallies. He misses the adoring crowds. And he’s reassembling his old campaign staff, in the hope of recreating another electoral college miracle.
This was the year to run a front porch campaign like William McKinley or Calvin Coolidge (blessed be his name), but the GOP is stuck with a nominee whose ego is incapable of recognizing that. By contrast, the Democrats have a nominee who is happy to be managed by his team and told what events to do and not do, and circumstances have interestingly enough forced him into a front porch campaign. President Trump’s real hope for victory is that the voters see less of him and more of Mr. Biden in the coming months.
JVW (ee64e4) — 6/9/2020 @ 1:19 pmDana (0feb77) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:28 am
You know, Obama delivered his acceptance speech in 200 to an open air crowd, not in the convention hall. This might be acceptable to Trump and might be ia different state. At least it losks like some Republican officials might be looking for such acompromise = hold a scaled down convention in North Carolina where all the official business will be done ad let Trump give his speech in Florida.
Of course if they were imaginative, they’d create a perimeter for the delegates, use dogs from Pennsylvania to sniff out coronavirus cases, and preposition convalescent fluid or monoclonal antibodies in Charlotte.
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 1:40 pmfrosty @40-
The comparison is between polls were conducted between March 15-April 15 and polls conducted since May 15th.
Here is a non-paywall source with the same story.
Rip Murdock (80e6b4) — 6/9/2020 @ 1:56 pm30. DRJ (15874d) — 6/9/2020 @ 10:29 am
Well, it couldn’t have arrived before it was loose in Wuhan, probably due to the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Virology which is only 300 yards from the “wet market” Chinese authorities were blaming in December – a “wet market” that turns out out to have been a seafood market. Which means it had no animal life that could have been infected, and they couldn’t have believed it. The only reason for picking that was
seafood market was close to the place where it really originated from. Otherwise why pick out a seafood market and call it a wet market?
The Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Virology should not be confused with the Wuhan Institute of Virology which is 8 miles away, although maybe the Chinese government (?) tried to confuse people. A Hong Kong newspaper reported that the first cases were in November but officially now it is December 1.
The Chinese government itself at one point tried to blame a trip from the US in October. So that probably predates the first appearance in Wuhan.
There was also a story spread which got to ears of U.S> intelligence – probably spread among minor members of the Communist Party that a lab assistant at the Wuhan Institute of Virolooy (that’s the one 8 miles away) had confessed to doing something wrong and also visiting that wet market we were all told about that was actually a seafood market. (there seems to be general agreement now that it was a seafood market. Impossible therefore to be the source.)
It is probably true that some young woman indeed was made to confess to starting it (they must have fixed upon her because her boyfriend got the disease) although they ultimately decided not to go with that story. But she might be still in jail or at least out of a job and disgraced.
OK. Looking at DNA it seems like SASS-COV-2 was imported several times into the United States, and also into France, but most of these importations died out.
The common West Coast strain is different from the strain in East Coast and much of the United States. It was descended from virus that had escaped from Wuhan to the rest of China and maybe was somewhat weaker. Viruses mstly on;y get less virulent with new mutations.
The principle strain in New York, came from Italy, which got there directly from Wuhan and was more lethal. And the strain in most of the country came from New York. Although some examples of the West Coast strain got to New York and vice versa.
There were a bunch of tests put on the market, some of them not very good. The best ones take time.
Since it doesn’t test for whole viruses there is the possibility – I don’t know if this is real – that it could be fragments. It could also be that the virus hibernates in fat cells or some other cells so somebody can carry it without serious disease for quite some time.
I think they don’t really have any idea. But quantity of virus matters.
Tell that to Dr. Fauci.
Sammy Finkelman (fe9fb2) — 6/9/2020 @ 2:16 pmWhile his poll numbers are sagging, his wealthy donors still seem invigorated, which is a positive sign for his campaign. I would assume that this is going to motivate his campaign to schedule as many fundraisers/rallies as possible:
Dana (0feb77) — 6/9/2020 @ 2:40 pmTrump looks to Dreamers for an immigration deal
Activists, lawmakers and White House officials are bracing for the Supreme Court in the coming weeks to allow the Trump administration to end the program that protects immigrants who came to the country illegally as children, known as Dreamers.
…..Trump’s team plans to blame Democrats for not being willing to negotiate, hoping the message will help the president appeal to Hispanic voters. Democrats, and their likely presidential nominee Joe Biden, are running on a pledge to permanently enshrine the program that has protected Dreamers, known as the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. ….
Rip Murdock (80e6b4) — 6/9/2020 @ 3:50 pm….
Trump made cracking down on immigration the centerpiece of his 2016 campaign, promising to build a wall on the southern border with Mexico, deport millions of migrants who arrived in the country illegally and end DACA, which provides renewable work permits to Dreamers.
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[Jared] Kushner has been talking to lawmakers for months about a 600-page bill that would grant permanent status to more high-skilled, well-educated immigrants, while reducing the number of immigrants who enter the U.S. based on family ties. The bill, which has not won much support, even from Republicans, didn’t originally include DACA but Kushner has suggested to Senate offices that it could be added.
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said last week that she would not be willing to accept certain immigration policies just to strike a DACA deal with Trump.
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“The administration plays with people’s lives for political expediency,” [María Teresa Kumar, president and CEO of the Latino political organization Voto Latino] said. “They see DACA as currency.”
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Selling out his supporters once again.
Josh Jordan
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There is something both comical and depressing about how many people were screaming at people for not social distancing a week ago but are now supporting mass protests where all precautions are thrown out the window.
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Chris needs an escape from reality
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selfishness vs selflessness is pretty significant difference, josh
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harkin (9c4571) — 6/9/2020 @ 4:19 pm@AmericanJane
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The virus will respect that.
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These rallies are fine. For a while, I thought with the tremendous damage to the economy, why waste it? Just keep your distance if you can. Now with all these protests, I think the benefits are slight. Hospitals have had their chance to gear up. Researchers got a better head start than you’d expect them to. Face masks are political and Trump’s inaction for months was quite bad, and I’m sure the real market crash is coming in the next few months, but there is no reason to tell Trump’s supporters not to mix it up. Will they spread disease? No more than the BLM guys are.
What’s interesting about Trump spreading this is that he didn’t make it up. There are fringe websites out there talking about injecting bleach and other household cleaners, as well as saying autism is caused by required vaccinations. Trump is unique phenomena. He can instantly make 20-30% of Americans believe anything. He is informed entirely based on what makes him feel good, without any analysis of what’s true. He tweets and babbles without any sense that he should do so responsibly.
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