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5/21/2020

President Trump Annoyed Fox News Not Working Hard Enough To Get Him Re-elected

Filed under: General — Dana @ 1:10 pm



[guest post by Dana]

It drove me nuts when a previous president was able to count on Big Media to give him a pass, give him a hand, and head up his cheerleading section. It aggravated me that this same president could count on Big Media to lob him softballs during interviews, let things slide instead of following up with direct questions designed to compel honest answers, advocate for him, and practically campaign for him when election time rolled around. I believed it was wrong of the media to do that back then, and I still feel that way today. So when I see tweets like the ones below, I have a similar reaction. Trump wants what every president before him has wanted: a media that works for him and on his behalf, makes him look good, and helps him realize his goals. But did previous presidents expect this? Did they think the media was obligated to do that for them? Maybe. But what isn’t in question, is the fact that Trump believes that Fox News is obligated to work on his behalf, and on behalf of the Republican Party. And when the organization fails to meet his expectations, he lashes out at them. While today’s Big Media is a collectively biased entity that has morphed into an unabashed advocacy group for pet (read: liberal) causes and politicians, they have also lost tremendous credibility in doing so. We’ve seen their hypocritical-non-trustworthy underpants, and we cannot unsee them. And yet here we have Trump angry at Fox News for not behaving the same way:

–Dana

51 Responses to “President Trump Annoyed Fox News Not Working Hard Enough To Get Him Re-elected”

  1. I lack the time or energy to find and post examples of Trump harping about Obama and the media working for him, but I’m sure they’re out there. There was no line of distinction between the media and Obama, and Trump wants there to be no line of distinction between him and Fox News. Both are wrong.

    Dana (0feb77)

  2. Just when we were all having fun joking that Dinosaur Joe Biden has lost all of his marbles and is endlessly wandering in the fog of his own mind.

    Yeah, I know: nine-dimensional chess and all that.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  3. The job of the press since before the founding of this country is to report the news. News actually comes from the words north, east, west and south. The liberal media is doing its job for a change just as fox news did its job when a liberal obama was president. The corporate media in the last century tried to fool the public into thinking they were unbiased presenters of the news to lead the masses in ways the corporate establishment wanted them led. The news media pushes their point of view wither liberal or conservative always have always will. In all the president’s men watch the look dustin hoffman gives robert redford when his character says he is a republican.

    asset (b9a0f7)

  4. Fox sounds like it’s doing what any rational news outlet would do – trying to ensure they will have a chance to retain an audience under the next administration.

    How do you find an adequate stand-in for your star?

    John B Boddie (f44786)

  5. The job of the press since before the founding of this country is to report the news. News actually comes from the words north, east, west and south.

    Uhh, no, not even close.

    The English word “news” developed in the 14th century as a special use of the plural form of “new”. In Middle English, the equivalent word was newes, like the French nouvelles and the German Neues. Similar developments are found in the Slavic languages the Czech and Slovak noviny (from nový, “new”), the cognate Polish nowiny, the Bulgarian novini, and Russian novosti – and in the Celtic languages: the Welsh newyddion (from newydd) and the Cornish nowodhow (from nowydh).

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (305827)

  6. …But did previous presidents expect this? Did they think the media was obligated to do that for them? Maybe.

    Uhh, maybe not.

    The Pentagon Papers.

    ‘Nuff said.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  7. hope you’re well DCSCA

    Dustin (d59cff)

  8. Trump should take the plunge and fully embrace OAN. The crackpot president and crackpot news channel are a perfect match.
    This edition of my comment is on its way to the National Archives of the Library of Congress, thank you for reading, this is Paul Montagu, and remember: Even when I’m wrong…I’m right.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  9. We’ve seen their hypocritical-non-trustworthy underpants, and we cannot unsee them.

    I love your pointed prose, Dana.

    norcal (a5428a)

  10. Counting PBS, there are 5 TV news organizations working night and day giving Trump 96% %negative coverage. Those are CBS/NBC/MSNBC?PBS/CNN. There is only ONE news channel which says its “Fair and Balanced” – and the other Five, especially CNN/MSNBC denounce FOX news as ” RIGHT WING” “STATE RUN” Media.

    So, Trump is absolutely correct to criticize FOX News for having too many Naver Trumpers. Since if you want to hate Trump you got 5 TV Organizations pumping out Pro Democrat/Atti-Trump news 24/7. And its nice to know that Dana wants Balance. So why don’t aren’t I reading constant attacks on CNN/MSNBC/NBC/ABBC/PBS for their biased coverage?

    rcocean (2e1c02)

  11. You can of course, take the Libertarian approach, beloved by David French and Jonah Goldberg. Its their TV shows and their newspapers and their radio stations, and if all these PRIVATE companies want to deplatform anyone who disagrees with them, or give the Republicans 100% negative coverage, why FREE ENTERPRISE means we shouldn’t even criticize them. So, say the BULWARK boys and the Dispatch gang.

    rcocean (2e1c02)

  12. You know who Bill Clinton criticized while President? Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, ONE Radio host. All the rest of the media, except Fox, was in his pocket. But that didn’t stop him from complaining about Rush Limbaugh. Obama did the same with Fox News. He didn’t criticize any major newspapers, because they are all liberal in their news coverage. As far as I know, Biden, Pelosi, Obama, and Schumer refuse to go on Fox News, or severely limit their appearances. Why because Fox News is so biased. LOL!

    rcocean (2e1c02)

  13. Trump is absolutely correct to criticize FOX News for having too many Naver Trumpers

    Is he correct to believe that it’s the duty of a “news” network to help him get re-elected?

    Since if you want to hate Trump you got 5 TV Organizations pumping out Pro Democrat/Atti-Trump news 24/7.

    So you believe that people “want to hate Trump” for no particular reason, and then they go out seeking an excuse to do so.
    Or do you say that only to evade the fact that it’s quite easy to be disgusted by Trump simply by listening to him and watching him, unfiltered?

    Radegunda (89f220)

  14. So, Trump is absolutely correct to criticize FOX News for having too many Naver Trumpers.

    Indeed because, as they say, who knew the facts have a left-wing bias.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  15. #12 — I remember Clinton criticizing Rush. I remember Dems coining the phrase “hate radio” to denote the voices that challenged the Dem orthodoxies. I remember Obama making pronouncements on what news outlets he thought people should not listen to. And I criticized Obama & Clinton et al. for their wish to control the flow of information and opinion.

    That doesn’t make Trump correct in believing that a news network should be 100% faithful to him personally.

    It isn’t as if Trump had a deep history of decrying media bias as an ideological matter. It is ALL about himself. He’ll make a general reference to “Republicans” to make it look better. But if there’s anything that’s undeniable about Trump, it’s that his concept of right and wrong is openly, proudly self-centered.

    Radegunda (89f220)

  16. And television coverage is important for Trump because he doesn’t read

    The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult, they said. He has a short attention span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information. He is unashamed to interrupt intelligence officers and riff based on tips or gossip he hears from the former casino magnate Steve Wynn, the retired golfer Gary Player or Christopher Ruddy, the conservative media executive.
    Mr. Trump rarely absorbs information that he disagrees with or that runs counter to his worldview, the officials said.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  17. There is also the factor that if a volcano is blowing up and the news covers it, the news isn’t experiencing an anti-volcano bias, there isn’t another side to the lava sliding down the hill hand burning 5 towns, displacing thousands of people, sometimes it just is what it is and maybe the Volcano believes the coverage is unfair, but that doesn’t make it unfair.

    Nic (896fdf)

  18. Puuurrrr, puuuuuurr mr. president dawna twamp, mean gurl. that monster neil cavato won’t plant his lips on dawna’s ass-terior like seanene hannity and russ limbaugh.

    i am gonna have a good cry and stompy-foot pout for mr. president dawna.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  19. #17 — perfect analogy.
    What the Trumpists choose to ignore is that it takes no skewing at all to “make Trump look bad.”

    Radegunda (89f220)

  20. The job of the press since before the founding of this country is to report the news.

    Not exactly. Pres. Washington had whole very popular papers dedicated to cutting him and his administrations to ribbons. Since we lionize a lot of those same people (appropriately with some reservations) we also have this mythology about how things were in that time. They were populated by the same human nature as now.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  21. Such a mewling waste of atoms. It is truly pathetic.

    Leviticus (34c412)

  22. 2. joking that…Joe Biden has lost all of his marbles and is endlessly wandering in the fog of his own mind.

    You can check it out. Joe Biden will appear on Colbert tonight. shortly after 11:30 pm.

    Later, the video will probably be available on the Internet free.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  23. Fox News may have failed Trump, but he’s going to have at least one show working for him:

    ABC’s long-running daytime women’s talk show “The View,” has long been perceived by conservatives as a bastion of the left. On Wednesday night, President Trump’s campaign decided to give it some competition, launching its own women’s talk show called “The Right View.”

    The campaign touted the new weekly program online Tuesday afternoon with a sizzle reel for the show, including a logo, theme song and live-audience soundtrack.

    “For too long, women on ABC’s ‘The View’ have believed they represent all women’s views,” Mercedes Schlapp, Trump 2020 senior advisor for strategic communications, told Just the News. “They project the fake news’ narrative to viewers across the country and are obsessed with their blatant hatred of President Trump.

    “Our new series — ‘The Right View’ — will make talk shows great again by breaking through the mainstream media’s deception and providing the facts about President Trump’s clear record of accomplishment,” she said.

    The show will be hosted by Lara Trump, Mercedes Shlapp, Kimberly Guillfoyle, and Katrina Pierson. Just imagine the bevy with their botox and bosoms boasting about Trump’s accomplishments…

    Dana (0feb77)

  24. If only Trump had a purring press and one-party rule, but even that might not be enough:

    “ It is in that context that Cuomo’s willingness to spike any effort to hold someone accountable for what happened in his state’s nursing homes must be seen. It is a tribute to his party’s iron-fisted control of the New York state legislature that no one in Albany is speaking out to demand justice for victims. And with most of the media obsessed with trying to demonstrate that Trump has “blood on his hands” for his pandemic missteps, there appears to be little appetite for rebuking Cuomo.”

    Andrew Cuomo Needs to Own Nursing Home COVID Deaths

    https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-cuomo-needs-own-nursing-home-covid-deaths-opinion-1505189
    _

    harkin (8f4a6f)

  25. the bevy with their botox and bosoms boasting

    Alliteration!

    Nice, Dana!

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  26. A flourish of strumpets for Mr. President.

    nk (1d9030)

  27. An assortment of tarts for Mr. President.

    nk (1d9030)

  28. Frumps for Trump?

    nk (1d9030)

  29. You can of course, take the Libertarian approach, beloved by David French and Jonah Goldberg. Its their TV shows and their newspapers and their radio stations, and if all these PRIVATE companies want to deplatform anyone who disagrees with them, or give the Republicans 100% negative coverage, why FREE ENTERPRISE means we shouldn’t even criticize them. So, say the BULWARK boys and the Dispatch gang.

    rcocean (2e1c02) — 5/21/2020 @ 2:19 pm

    You’re confused again.

    Free enterprise means they can what they like with their property.

    Criticism of Trump for his relentless lies about fake news and calling reporters the enemies of the people or asking the FCC to fine stations that air stories that are insufficiently flattering is a different thing.

    Time123 (b87ded)

  30. Yah, Time, you can bank on rc just lying like an old dog when he mentions various people and organizations that are insufficiently worshipful of his Great Goad Cheeto.

    He doesn’t have the snap to know that people like Goldberg are conservatives, and have been for the decades when his man-crush was giving money to every Deemocrat from Schumer to Pelosi and lauding Obama and Clintonssssssss.

    He’s funny to watch!

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  31. Maybe The Right View (sounds a little East German, dunnit?) will be a palliative for the MAGA-ites who are in withdrawal, lacking any mass groupthink paroxysms they can get their fix from.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  32. Yesterday, the Washington Post had an article on this subject. (Trump takes a big bite out of Fox News, the hand that feeds his base)
    They referred to a PRRI poll which asked respondents if there was ANYTHING Trump could do to lose their support.

    How many Republican Fox viewers are that far up his arse? Oh… about 60%. And what if these same respondents were given differing information from FoxNews vs. Trump, who would they believe? Trump…. by about 3 to 1.

    I wonder how many past Presidents had that degree of blind loyalty? I don’t know, but it makes me wonder about the long term survivability of this form of government.

    noel (4d3313)

  33. Given a binary choice, I’d take the organ grinder* over the monkey** too***. And I never believe Trump.

    *Trump
    **Fox News
    ***Unless it was Megyn Kelly who is no longer there. I wouldn’t care what she *said*.

    Bleach blonde lady with the playful eyes,
    She didn’t say much but she sure was wise.
    She didn’t say much with those honeyed lips,
    But she sure said plenty when she swung them hips.

    nk (1d9030)

  34. Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says
    A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

    People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

    The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. …..
    ……..
    “It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”
    …….
    Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis were treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine alone or in combination with a type of antibiotics known as a macrolide, such as azithromycin or clarithromycin, within 48 hours of their diagnosis.
    ……..
    For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

    Those given chloroquine had a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 256 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias. For those taking chloroquine and an antibiotic, there was a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 301 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.
    ……….

    Ripmurdock (b867aa)

  35. Given a binary choice, I’d take the organ grinder over the monkey too.

    “I am a musician, and the monkey is a businessman.”

    Dave (1bb933)

  36. “The show will be hosted by Lara Trump, Mercedes Shlapp, Kimberly Guillfoyle, and Katrina Pierson.”

    So, basically just another vehicle for Trump to funnel his marks’ money to his worthless deadbeat entourage. Guess he couldn’t put Donny and Eric on a Girl Show, but this is the next best way to put money in their hands.

    Leviticus (b3a900)

  37. nursing homes rack up 13,000 lives, life imitates python,

    narciso (7404b5)

  38. expensive kabuki

    https://expressdigest.com/lockdowns-failed-to-alter-the-course-of-pandemic-jp-morgan-study-claims/

    meanwhile the Cuomo bros, can kibitz on who racked up a higher body count,

    narciso (7404b5)

  39. meanwhile the Cuomo bros, can kibitz on who racked up a higher body count,

    Trump did, it’s not even a question. World Champion Mass Murderer of the 21st Century.

    nk (1d9030)

  40. @39, that’s a ridiculous assertion.

    Time123 (b87ded)

  41. Maybe Trump’s briefers should put his PDBs on video, make them look like Fox & Friends segments, with chyrons and simple graphs and sappy banter and everything. Maybe then he’d listen.

    Paul Montagu (b3f51b)

  42. @39, that’s a ridiculous assertion.

    Sorry, Time123. You’re right. World Champion Mass Murderer of the 21st Century *so far*.

    nk (1d9030)

  43. Fox had Catherine Herridge, that naughty little pixie.

    She could be my organ grinder any time.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  44. Defense lawyers look to reopen cases where Tara Reade testified as an expert

    Under the name Alexandra McCabe, Tara Reade has for years testified for the prosecution as an expert in domestic violence cases.

    But a number of California defense attorneys are considering challenging the convictions of their clients amid questions about whether Reade misrepresented her credentials under oath.

    Reade, the former Joe Biden staffer who recently accused him of sexually assaulting her in 1993, stated she had an undergraduate degree that her college says she never earned and appears to have exaggerated her role in Biden’s office, according to trial transcripts in two court cases reviewed by POLITICO.
    ………
    An attorney for Jennifer Vasquez, a woman convicted of attempted murder, said he is currently reviewing options for his client in the wake of recent revelations about Reade.

    In that December 2018 case, Reade gave an account of her educational background that conflicts with the account of university officials. When asked to detail her credentials as an expert in domestic violence in the case, Reade testified that she had a law degree from Seattle University and graduated from Antioch University in Seattle with a bachelor’s degree.
    ……..
    Karen Hamilton, a spokeswoman for Antioch University, said in a statement that Reade did not graduate and was never a faculty member. Reade attended Antioch for three academic quarters, in 2000 and part of 2001, the university said.
    ………
    Reade also appears to have embellished her role in Biden’s office. Reade served in his Senate office from December 1992 to July 1993 as a staff assistant, a relatively junior position. Reade has said she managed interns for a time. But when queried about her job experience at the trial, Reade referred to herself as a legislative assistant — a more senior job classification that conveyed more responsibility — in his office, according to the transcript.
    …….

    Ripmurdock (b867aa)

  45. Rip, would you allow expert testimony from an expert you had not vetted? It boggles the mind that either side in a criminal matter would be so lax as to allow Reade to testify without looking under her hood…so to speak.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  46. December 2018? So it’s a relatively recent thing. I think Ms Reade had better keep a criminal lawyer handy.

    Kishnevi (59d33b)

  47. 12. rcocean (2e1c02) — 5/21/2020 @ 2:23 pm

    You know who Bill Clinton criticized while President? Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, ONE Radio host. All the rest of the media, except Fox, was in his pocket. But that didn’t stop him from complaining about Rush Limbaugh.

    Rush Limbaugh was the closest one to getting at his secrets.

    Rush always used to play excerpts of things people said. Bill Clinton was afraid that, one day, he’d be on the mark- and he had a big audience. It could make a difference.

    It’s not that everybody else on the air was in his pocket – there were other conservative radio talk show hosts – but Rush was the closest to being accurate about what he said.

    Bill Clinton wanted to get Rush off the air, and if he couldn’t, he wanted people not to listen to him.

    The show possibly was responsible for 3 federal judges replacing Robert B. Fiske Jr, with Kenneth Starr. (Janet Reno had appointed him a special counsel or something – then Bill Clinton signed a bill restoring the appointment of special prosecutors.) There was the expectation that the federal judges charged with appointing one, would ratify the choice that Janet Reno had made. (she wasn’t independent, by the way; he had always wanted her in ad he had deliberately made her look like a third choice from a limited field – only women – to ease her confirmation – and everything she did confirmed that hypothesis)

    A caller – me – said that Bill Clinton was trying to get all investigations into the hands of “a lawyer whom Bill Clinton could trust.” Who, asked Rush, surprised. I said Robert B. Fiske Jr. Rush, and then Rush understood, and he indicated that some people thought he was bad or something like that.

    (I probably got through because everybody was watching Congressional testimony.)

    I gave a slightly garbled explanation as to why Clinton would trust him. I named the wrong person whom he had protected as a lawyer. It was really Robert E Rubin, nor Roger Altman.

    Giuliani was investigating Goldman Sachs for insider trading. Fiske was defending Robert Freeman. Freeman could have turned on the head of arbitrage trading at Goldman Sachs, Robert E. Rubin, Jr.
    (Clinton by the way avoided appointing him Secretary of the Treasury until 1995, by which time he probably felt their coast was clear and Rubin and it wouldn’t come up in his conformation hearings.

    After Giuliani had quit to run for mayor the first time – Fiske didn’t dare try this while Giuliani was still in charge – a crime was invented that led nowhere, and Freeman pleaded guilty to it, with Fiske blaming the U.S. Attorney’s office for a leak. If you read between the lines of James B. Stewart’s book “Den of Thieves” you can realize this – it’s something Stewart didn’t realize himself.

    The realization stemmed from the fact that I realized that Fiske had to be source of a leak he vociferously complained about. He wanted that fake case prosecuted.

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  48. What are these lines here now, at the ends of messages?

    And sometimes the beginning)

    Sammy Finkelman (b4888e)

  49. Dana,

    then you have the actual show the View giving a 35 minute infomercial with Chuckie Schumer on how he’s the savior and all Repubs are evil. But that’s different, I know.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  50. Whataboutsim: what does it mean, Rob?

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

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