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2/22/2020

Weekend Open Thread

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:00 am



[guest post by Dana]

Feel free to talk about anything you think is newsworthy or might interest readers.

I’ll start.

First news item:

Harry Reid meh about a brokered convention:

Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Wednesday said it was possible the crowded Democratic primary race was headed toward a contentious convention fight and downplayed the political dangers of a scenario many party leaders are dreading.

“I don’t think we’ll have one, but we could have one,” Reid told The Associated Press in an interview days before the Democratic caucuses in his home state of Nevada. “We’ve had brokered conventions before, and we’ve always come up with good candidates. It’s not the end of the world. It just slows the process down.”

More here, including thoughts on Bernie Sanders:

“Let’s say that he has 35 percent. Well, 65 percent he doesn’t have, or that person doesn’t have. I think that we have to let the system work its way out. I do not believe anyone should get the nomination unless they have 50-[percent]-plus-one… A lot people in the race still, but they’ll be dropping off quick, because the money is running out. So I think you’re going to have the field winnowing fairly quickly. And you have most of the people who are not Bernie Sanders, are people who are moderates, and maybe they’ll work something out to get together and try to find that one person who can come up with the number of delegates… I just don’t think you can give the nomination to somebody who has 65 percent of the people that made a different decision.”

Second news item:

No wonder a woman can’t get elected to the presidency: Elizabeth Warren, who has railed against Big Money in politics, now blames men for accepting Big Money donations to her campaign. :

Senator Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) changed her tune on the nefarious influence of super PACs just days after receiving the backing of a newly formed PAC, telling reporters on Thursday that because “all of the men” in the race refused to rely entirely on individual donors, she shouldn’t be expected to either.

“It can’t be the case that a bunch of people keep them and only one or two don’t,” she said.

Warren, speaking to reporters in Nevada, tried to square her past disavowals of super PAC funding with her refusal to disavow a new PAC that made a $1 million television ad buy on her behalf this week. She argued that because she failed to convince other candidates to commit to her proposal of no PAC funding, she was forced to accept PAC support.

“The first day I got in this race, over a year ago, I said ‘I hope every presidential candidate who comes in will agree — no Super PACs for any of us,” Warren explained. “I renewed that call dozens of times, and I couldn’t get a single Democrat to go along with me.

Third news item:

An indictment against public education? An endorsement of Sporcle?

Fourth news item:

USC begins to waive tuition costs for some students:

USC announced Thursday that it will be waiving all tuition fees for any student who comes from a family that makes less than $80,000.

Starting with students entering their first year this fall, not only will students from households with an annual income below $80,000 be able to attend tuition-free but also owning a home will not be counted when determining a student’s financial need.

“We’re opening the door wider to make a USC education possible for talented students from all walks of life,” University President Carol Folt said in a statement. Folt was brought in in March on the heels of the “Varsity Blues” scandal, where dozens of wealthy parents were charged with illegally influencing undergraduate admissions decisions at top American universities including, most famously, at the University of Southern California.

Fifth news item:

No brainer:

Spurred by a police chief, Minnesota lawmakers launched a drive Thursday to remove from the state constitution a clause allowing slavery and involuntary servitude as punishment for crimes.

St. Paul Police Chief Todd Axtell, who had been bothered by the language for some time, made it his new year’s resolution to get it deleted. He found a sympathetic ear in St. Paul Democratic Rep. John Lesch, who will get a hearing Tuesday on his proposal asking voters in November to remove the offending language from the constitution.

The bill of rights in the 1857 Minnesota Constitution says “there shall be neither slavery nor involuntary servitude in the state otherwise than as punishment for a crime of which the party has been convicted.” The amendment would strike the punishment exception, leaving a total ban in place.

“It’s inappropriate that language mentioning slavery still exists in our constitution, even if’s narrowly constructed and, some would say, obsolete,” Lesch said at a news conference…

What, was there no Republican “sympathetic ear” to be found? Oh, wait, let’s read the last two paragraphs:

The proposal seems likely to win support in the Democratic-controlled House. It’s being sponsored in the Republican-controlled Senate by Sen. Bobby Joe Champion, an African American from Minneapolis, who is hopeful he can persuade Senate leaders to take it up. No organized opposition has emerged.

GOP Senate Majority Leader Paul Gazelka said at a separate news conference Thursday that he’s “certainly willing to take a look at it.”

Have a great weekend.

–Dana

125 Responses to “Weekend Open Thread”

  1. A friend of mine did the Leno segment where they “found the idiot”. She said they specifically went to the tourist areas and would film for 2-3 days, 8 hours a day, to get 5 minutes of idiot takes. She was actually pretty impressed with most folks, but the dumb ones were REALLY dumb, and they’re not always the toothless hillbilly, she’s from Louisville (Luhvul) and knows her hillbillies. Tech and Energy execs were notoriously stupid.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (5cde89)

  2. St. Paul Police Chief Todd Axtell, who had been bothered by the language for some time,

    Everybody said it was a shame
    That his mama was a working on a chain gang

    Pick a little poke salad, Chief. So … courts will be able to impose community service as a punishment, either directly or indirectly as a choice between that and jail?

    nk (1d9030)

  3. will *not* be able

    nk (1d9030)

  4. Oh, it’s Minnesota! Never mind.

    nk (1d9030)

  5. Yeah, brokered conventions.

    The last one was 1968, where the (surviving) anti-war candidates who had driven LBJ out of the race were shunted aside in favor of the sitting VP, Humphrey. Lost to Nixon by 120 EVs.

    Before that, there was JFK in 1960, narrowly on the first ballot, and several southern states refused to put him on their ballot. Might have beat Nixon, might have not.

    Or 1952, where they selected Adlai Stephenson (aka Merkin Muffley), who lost twice to Ike.

    My favorite is 1924, where they selected John W Davis on the 103th ballot. He came in a distant second (to Coolidge) with 29% of the popular vote. Davis, a stalwart racist, later claimed fame as the losing lawyer in Brown v Board of Education.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  6. *103rd. Yikes.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  7. The best way for Bloomberg to win the presidency is for Trump to replace RBG first. Given that, the 2nd Amendment is secure, without that Trump gets 10 million extra votes.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  8. USC announced Thursday that it will be waiving all tuition fees for any student who comes from a family that makes less than $80,000.

    There are a number of reasons I’m upset with my alma mater (Harvey Mudd), notably a political-correctness fetish, but one thing I am proud of is they always meet the financial needs of accepted applicants. Nobody leaves with $100K in debt despite the $60K/year posted price.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  9. Ever since Putin decided to slice off a piece of the Crimean region of Ukraine and called it his own, and then launched a massive propaganda campaign to blame Ukraine and the US for his invasion and ongoing war, I’ve been acutely sensitive to that kind of disinformation and dishonesty being spread by the dictators and his tacit allies. Trump is part of that disinformation continuum.
    Timothy Snyder has an excellent piece that provides clarity to what actually happened at the Maidan and the disinformation onslaught that followed. Bottom line, what happened in February 2014 was a popular revolution. Ukraine wasn’t taken over by fascists or neo-Nazis (although they do exist and played small roles in the new administration); the real fascist in this equation is Putin himself. The US didn’t foment or start this revolution.
    Yanukovych violated his country’s constitution by shutting down protesters, and he fled to Mother Russia to avoid prison, abandoning his office. His corruption was made known to the world shortly thereafter, and made further known when the “black ledger” was revealed.
    Putin’s propaganda efforts were not so different in our 2016 election cycle. This NY Mag piece is lengthy, but it lays out how the Russian dictator executed his “sweeping and systematic” effort to use social media to spread his propaganda to his advantage, and it’s called the Gerasimov Doctrine. Here’s one little piece.

    In the article for Military-Industrial Courier, Gerasimov suggested that, in the future, wars will be fought with a four-to-one ratio of nonmilitary to military measures. The former, he wrote, should include efforts to shape the political and social landscape of the adversary through subversion, espionage, propaganda, and cyberattacks. His essay, written in the shadow of the Arab Spring, cited the anarchy and violence that erupted in Libya and Syria as proof that, when faced with the combination of pressure and interference, a “perfectly thriving state can, in a matter of months, and even days, be transformed into an arena of fierce armed conflict, become a victim of foreign intervention, and sink into a web of chaos, humanitarian catastrophe, and civil war.”
    Such events were “typical of warfare in the twenty-first century,” he wrote. “The role of nonmilitary means of achieving political and strategic goals has grown, and, in many cases, they have exceeded the power of force of weapons in their effectiveness.”
    Pavel Zolotarev, the retired Russian general, explained that, when Gerasimov’s essay was published, “we had come to the conclusion, having analyzed the actions of Western countries in the post-Soviet space—first of all the United States—that manipulation in the information sphere is a very effective tool.” Previously, one had to use “grandfather-style methods: scatter leaflets, throw around some printed materials, manipulate the radio or television,” Zolotarev said. “But, all of a sudden, new means have appeared.”
    Gerasimov’s prescriptions began to look prophetic a year later, when Russia annexed Crimea in a quick operation that caught U.S. officials by surprise and contravened international law. Russian-made propaganda whipped up pro-Moscow sentiment in a population that was already wary of Ukrainian political leaders in Kiev and had deep, historical ties with Russia. Unidentified soldiers (the so-called “little green men”) surrounded Ukrainian bases in Crimea, and within days Russia had pulled off a hastily organized, stage-managed referendum.
    Even with the rise of new technologies, the underlying truth about such operations hasn’t changed. They are less a way to conjure up something out of nothing than to stir a pot that is already bubbling. In the U.S., a strategy like the alleged hacking of the Democrats was merely an effort to deepen an existing state of disarray and distrust.
    And those “new means” were used effectively by Putin.

    Moving to present day, McKay Coppins has a piece on the current Disinformation War. The waded into the Trump political ecosystem by signing up for a Facebook and clicking on Trump-friendly links.

    As I swiped at my phone, a stream of pro-Trump propaganda filled the screen: “That’s right, the whistleblower’s own lawyer said, ‘The coup has started …’ ” Swipe. “Democrats are doing Putin’s bidding …” Swipe. “The only message these radical socialists and extremists will understand is a crushing …” Swipe. “Only one man can stop this chaos …” Swipe, swipe, swipe.
    I was surprised by the effect it had on me. I’d assumed that my skepticism and media literacy would inoculate me against such distortions. But I soon found myself reflexively questioning every headline. It wasn’t that I believed Trump and his boosters were telling the truth. It was that, in this state of heightened suspicion, truth itself—about Ukraine, impeachment, or anything else—felt more and more difficult to locate. With each swipe, the notion of observable reality drifted further out of reach.
    What I was seeing was a strategy that has been deployed by illiberal political leaders around the world. Rather than shutting down dissenting voices, these leaders have learned to harness the democratizing power of social media for their own purposes—jamming the signals, sowing confusion. They no longer need to silence the dissident shouting in the streets; they can use a megaphone to drown him out. Scholars have a name for this: censorship through noise.

    All three links are lengthy but they’re worth full reads, IMO. In today’s media environment, it’s all the more difficult–and all the more important–to check the facts and check the sources so as not to get chumped by propagandists.

    Paul Montagu (ae8832)

  10. Both Warren and Klobuchar seem to be running on a sexist appeal. Imagine if a candidate, even Trump, ran an anti-woman message.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  11. On my frequent visits to Childrens Hospital in Boston I notice political signs and bumper stickers.
    More burnee than the rest of the dem nit wits put together. Pretty much a toss up between burnee and orange man bad.
    I did see a very faded Kerry/Edwards on a old subaru wagon!

    mg (8cbc69)

  12. About that no-brainer, the US Constitution has the same language in the 13th Amendment. After this passes someone who is sentenced to community service is going to sue.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  13. I did see a very faded Kerry/Edwards on a old subaru wagon!

    You will see Hillary stickers on new cars in Santa Monica.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  14. Will Chamberlain has a good video about scumbags in the intelligence community leaking a story about Bernie’s campaign being helped by the Russians, right before the Nevada primary. This is the same sort of thing the IC pulls a lot, such as releasing the Comey briefing about the B.S. Steele dossier, to turn that into a political news story.

    The IC should be brought to heel; but then, it’s best not to be assassinated by them, so not sure how much the President can do.

    Are there white hats in the IC? Sure. But many of them are slime.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  15. By the way, his point is this will be a Democrat or Never Trumper in the IC who is trying to stop Bernie from winning the primary, to benefit the Democrats’ chances in the general.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  16. Will Chamberlain has a good video about scumbags in the intelligence community leaking a story about Bernie’s campaign being helped by the Russians…

    How do you or Chamberlain know the IC leaked it? The White House leaked the story about the House briefing by Maguire’s minion, and that briefing included information about Putin preferring Bernie on the Democrat side.
    Along similar lines, Trump now has a 29-year old Director of Political Cleansing, with no HR experience. If you don’t bend the knee or demonstrate sufficient loyalty to a certain person, you’re fired.
    Only the best people biggest suck-ups!

    Paul Montagu (ae8832)

  17. Leigh Ann Caldwell
    @LACaldwellDC
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    As Nevada heads to caucus today —>

    Harry Reid: Iowa and New Hampshire ‘have done so much damage’
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    Holly Otterbein
    @hollyotterbein
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    Jeff Weaver, a senior adviser to Bernie Sanders, told us the Nevada Democratic Party hadn’t yet released all the early vote data they’d said they would.
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    POLITICO
    @politico
    ·
    Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez warned earlier this week that results from Nevada’s caucus on Saturday might not be released the same day — an apparent attempt to lower expectations after the meltdown in Iowa https://politico.com/news/2020/02/21/nevada-braces-for-caucus-after-iowa-116661
    __ _

    Dillon Greer
    @Duval_Dillon
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    The early voters will be kept comfortable while the Party and the campaigns have an informed discussion.

    _

    harkin (b64479)

  18. Trump has done nothing for gun rights. Zero, zip, zilch, nada.

    He has done things against gun rights, by executive order, after the Las Vegas shooting.

    Worse, his corrupt New York Sewer Depth DOJ is going after the reloader who sold the shooter some ammo on a trumped-up charge of being an unlicensed ammunition manufacturer. Not only reloaders should worry. “Reasonably regulating” ammunition has been a gun-grabber Plan B for a long time.

    nk (1d9030)

  19. Chamberlain’s follow-up point is that this leaking of classified info for partisan political reason is pernicious and can’t be tolerated. It’s the IC (probably) interefering with the electoral process.

    Trump should call for a no-holds-barred investigation, including grand journeys going “Scooter Libby” and subpoenaing reports at the NYT and WP, to find out who leaked it and prosecute them. That this leaking is worse than Assange and Snowden, in a sense, because while the amount of classified info leaked was less, it was leaked more narrowly, to try to choose the next President.

    This is dangerous and wrong.

    Surely if Trump DID call for such an investigation, as he should, this could be supported by all well-meaning people.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  20. *juries, although a grand journey could be nice

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  21. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/anderson-cooper-calls-bullsht-on-rod-blagojevich-in-heated-interview/

    Cooper often swings and misses, but he was knocking the cover off with the sleeze-ball that the OTHER sleeze-ball let off only to come out and claim he was a “political prisoner” “robbed of my freedom”.

    Gutsy call, Mr. President…

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  22. Trump has done nothing for gun rights. Zero, zip, zilch, nada.

    Gorsuch. Kavanaugh. That’s two by my count. Then there are lower court judges from the Federalist Society list.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  23. But maybe the Democrats will be more sympathetic.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  24. A California sheriff is refusing to ignore subpoenas for information from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    ICE served the subpoenas on San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore for the jail records of four Mexicans in the U.S. illegally, according to reports.

    Gore issued a statement Thursday announcing that he was complying with the demands.

    “A truly authorized federal administrative subpoena has to be honored,” Gore said.

    State’s Rights advocates in the ACLU say different. “California has passed a Nullification Act, so the sheriff is breaking the law.”

    OK, maybe not that last part, exactly.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-sheriff-ice-subpoenas-jail-records

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  25. @9 Paul, “censorship through noise” what an apt description of what is going on more and more across social media….as voluntary and unwitting trolls add more and more confusion about what are facts and what is idle speculation. I believe you are correct when you note that team Trump is part of this growing disinformation and dishonesty continuum….feeding us theories and villains to continually distract us from reasoned conclusions…or at minimum…some healthy skepticism about those in power. We are always told to go look in this or that dark corner….and aha…..there’s the bad guy…ie, the one going against the party line. One can’t read a blog comment section today without being innudated by poorly-sourced and weakly-reasoned propaganda….designed to make us hate and distrust the other side…paralyzing our democracy….and leading many to excuse bad character and bad behavior….and claim bad character is actually required….preferred….and better that it is out in the open….because we know all of them are bad. Keep finding interesting analyses….hopefully some will take them to heart!

    AJ_Liberty (165d19)

  26. The courts have done very little for gun rights, except in Chicago and DC (and not more than the barest minimum in DC). All the gun rights nationally that people enjoy today, compared to, let’s say 1980, have come from state legislatures, with Congress lagging furlongs behind and the courts barely out of the starting gate.

    nk (1d9030)

  27. That’s nothing, I saw a Dole Kemp 96 sticker on a light pole on a street in my neighborhood for 20 + years after that election.

    urbanleftbehind (d470bd)

  28. But maybe the Democrats will be more sympathetic.

    Democrats passed the Illinois concealed carry law and defeated the recent proposed gun ban in Virginia. You’ve been praising New Mexico’s gun laws. Who controls the legislature? Who is governor? (Rhetorical questions.)

    Gun rights are grassroots, not trickle down, and it’s one reason top-down gun-grabbing by jerkoffs like Bloomberg keep failing.

    nk (1d9030)

  29. Debate questions I would like to hear:

    “President Trump: We understand that you do not drink. How then do you explain your late night tweets?”

    “Senator Sanders: Are you now, or have you ever been, a Communist?” Follow-up: “Do you renounce Marx and all his works?”

    “Vice-President Biden: “Where are you? What year is it? Who is the President of the United States?”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  30. Chamberlain’s follow-up point is that this leaking of classified info for partisan political reason is pernicious and can’t be tolerated. It’s the IC (probably) interefering with the electoral process.

    You’re packing a lot of assumptions into one short paragraph, MAOA. You don’t know if “classified info” was released, but it probably wasn’t classified because this same story was reported last August. The only difference between then and now is that Putin had a hard-on for Gabbard last summer.
    Because you don’t know who leaked, you can’t know the leakers’ motivations or whether it was done for “political partisan reason”. And because you don’t know if it came from the IC, you have no basis for concluding that the IC is “interefering with the electoral process”. What we do know is this story initially blew up because of the exchange between Trump and Maguire in the White House, and the White House leaks like Mrs. Montagu’s sinuses.

    Paul Montagu (ae8832)

  31. You’ve been praising New Mexico’s gun laws. Who controls the legislature? Who is governor?

    The new governor and her legislature passed new gun-transfer laws and a red-flag law. They also signed tiny NM up to the Popular Vote Compact, potentially losing its residents considerable clout.

    Virginia’s law was defeated because they have a mere 1-vote majority in the legislature. It wasn’t the Democrats who were voting no. Maybe a a few, but not the party.

    Gun rights are utterly dependent upon the US Supreme Court, and they have a ways to go. It is unconscionable that a passenger diverted to a NY or NJ airport can run into legal problems with their legally checked handgun.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  32. It should be noted that 30 of 33 counties in New Mexico are now 2nd Amendment sanctuaries. The other three counties (Bernadillo, Santa Fe and Doña Ana) are the cities, although Sandoval County (where I live) is also well-populated but not yet socialist.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  33. In keeping with AJ Liberty’s remarks, Duh Donald is busy vilainizing poor Neil Cavuto for the crime of having guests on who are not sufficiently worshipful of His Grace (pbuh).

    T-rump…pitiful man-child and liar extraordinaire…accused Cavuto of being a ratings failure who has “fake guests” (?!) on his show.

    Oddly, Cavuto’s ratings are excellent. His guests all appear to be quite genuine.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  34. @10 Um. Er. Yeah. Lets imagine that Trump said and did anti-woman things. Just imagine.

    Nic (896fdf)

  35. The courts have done very little for gun rights, except in Chicago and DC (and not more than the barest minimum in DC).

    One more vote on the Supreme Court and Heller and the 2nd Amendment would have been gutted and limited to the National Guard.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  36. I thought Wilt died

    mg (8cbc69)

  37. Lets imagine that Trump said and did anti-woman things.

    Sure, he’s a pig. But he’s not RUNNING on that. He’s not advocating voting for him because he’s a man.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  38. “Putin doesn’t want me to be the nominee. Donald Trump doesn’t want me to be the nominee.” – Joe Biden

    Wellllllll, call me Orange Ivan Glasnost; I don’t want you to be the nominee; millions of Americans, including squeaky white Iowans, New Hampshire voters- and the ghost Corn Pop, too- don’t want you, an aging, gaff-prone, lying plagiarist and two-time looza to be the nominee, either.

    “Here’s the deal, man”—– you’re too damned old.

    Idiot.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  39. Gun rights are utterly dependent upon the US Supreme Court,

    Sigh. According to the US Supreme Court there were no gun rights until 2008 (Heller v. DC), but 48 states already had carry in public in one form or another in 2008. DC still doesn’t. The courts are followers, not leaders, on the Second Amendment.

    nk (1d9030)

  40. One more vote on the Supreme Court and Heller and the 2nd Amendment would have been gutted and limited to the National Guard.

    It was, since 1937, as far as the Supreme Court was concerned. The states thought differently.

    nk (1d9030)

  41. 1937? Miller (1939)? It’s not clear that settled anything.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  42. If you live in CA, NJ, NY or HI you have no 2nd amendment rights.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  43. @37 He’s not saying “Vote for me, I’m a man.” but he does make gendered statements that imply it makes him better.

    Everyone runs on their demographics, to a certain extent. That’s what all those cowboy boots were about with Bush and what all the “I’m a Christian” stuff is in general. With JFK, some people voted for him specifically because he was Catholic and there’d never been a Catholic President (and there hasn’t been one since, either.) Some people voted for Obama just because he’s black. If you have a unique or interesting demographical situation that’s going to probably cause you to lose votes, there’s no reason not to try to turn it into a positive and gain some with it.

    Nic (896fdf)

  44. You are on fire, today, nk. On all threads. Long may you wave.

    felipe (023cc9)

  45. This is news. The former mayor of Carmel-by-the-Sea, the guy who supported Trump in 2016, is now endorsing Bloomberg.
    BTW, I saw The Mule a few weeks ago, and it was impressive how an 89-year old fella carried the film. Also impressive is how he made his best films after he turned 60.

    Paul Montagu (ae8832)

  46. Paul Montagu (ae8832) — 2/22/2020 @ 11:42 am

    That is amazing, Montagu. Once Bloomberg drops out, Clint will go back to endorsing Trump and you’ll go back to hating him and his films.

    Munroe (dd6b64)

  47. Bloomberg isn’t going to drop out.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  48. Laura Barrón-López
    @lbarronlopez
    .
    NSDP party officials are telling campaign representatives that there’s a deficit of volunteers across the state, and so they are asking representatives of campaigns to act as precinct chairs, per multiple sources on ground
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    Laura Barrón-López
    @lbarronlopez
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    Per Dem source: “I’m at Spring Valley High School and a lot of the Nevada Dem Party volunteers did not show up. They are worried about the precinct chairs showing up as well.”
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    Little Saint James PAC
    @beardiful4
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    I am legitimately curious how much this is related to requiring volunteers sign last-minute NDAs
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    A Sentient Pile of SpaghettiSpaghetti
    @spagritty
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    So they spring a last-minute shady AF requirement to sign an NDA on the volunteers and surprise, surprise, they can’t get enough volunteers
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    Global Yokel
    @GlobalYokel
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    Democrats are running the risk of looking so incompetent that we won’t be able to convince voters to trust us with healthcare, foreign policy, etc.
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    Chicago_Dad70
    @KSfan4life
    ·
    Wow. Who knew Putin had THIS kind of sway?!
    _

    harkin (b64479)

  49. “Bloomberg isn’t going to drop out.”
    Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 2/22/2020 @ 12:26 pm

    With his dough, maybe not.

    I’ve watched none of the debates. Did any questioner insist on the Dem candidates making a pledge to support the nominee coming out of the convention, like they did for Republicans in 2016?

    I’d like to see both Bloom and Bernie make that pledge. Of course, they can always lie through their teeth like Jeb(!).

    Munroe (dd6b64)

  50. With his dough, maybe not.

    I’ve watched none of the debates.

    Ironically, he stunk up the joint in epic fashion, really, legendary, in his first debate, coming in utterly prepared for what he ought to know would be the questions and attacks.

    He let himself down by relying on his money and self-image rather than tenacious, emotionally-challenging debate prep. He will do better in the next debate.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  51. *unprepared

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  52. That is amazing, Montagu. Once Bloomberg drops out, Clint will go back to endorsing Trump and you’ll go back to hating him and his films.

    Projection. Is there any basis for the accusation that Paul bases his opinion of filmmakers on whether or not they love Donald Trump?
    Most people don’t view everything and everyone through a Trump-centric lens, though Trump fans have certainly shown a tendency to divide good from bad along the lines of pro-Trump vs. anti-Trump or Trump-critical.

    Radegunda (39c35f)

  53. If you live in CA, NJ, NY or HI you have no 2nd amendment rights.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 2/22/2020 @ 11:18 am

    I can vouch for that.

    NJRob (d9a8fc)

  54. Projection. Is there any basis for the accusation that Paul bases his opinion of filmmakers on whether or not they love Donald Trump?
    Most people don’t view everything and everyone through a Trump-centric lens, though Trump fans have certainly shown a tendency to divide good from bad along the lines of pro-Trump vs. anti-Trump or Trump-critical.

    Radegunda (39c35f) — 2/22/2020 @ 1:05 pm

    Looking at the number of people who say they wont vote for anyone that didn’t support Trump’s impeachment and removal and I’ll disagree. Same with those who are no longer Republicans because “Trump.”

    NJRob (d9a8fc)

  55. Interesting point, Radegunda. I have been talking with someone who filters everything through a Trump-centric lens: if it’s not pro-Trump, it’s not good. That covers everything from filmmakers to businesses to media outlets and obviously, to pundits. They are creating their own acceptable small world to operate within. With that, I’m working on a local political campaign to defeat a disastrous measure going before voters. The Tea Party has aligned itself with the grassroots campagin to defeat the measure. They are very big Trump people. As such, it has been necessary to remind people that our campaign has absolutely nothing to do with the Trump cause. We are unifying because of the Measure, not because of political alignments. If Trump support were the delineation point, then our side of the issue would lose major support.

    Dana (4fb37f)

  56. They are creating their own acceptable small world to operate within.

    Says someone in the 4% of people on the right who don’t approve of Trump, not the 96% who do.

    You are masterful at projecting!

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  57. Another celebrity for Bernie:

    “He never has changed his attack because of pressure from the outside or when he felt the wind was blowing another way. He stuck with who he is and what he believes.” –Dick Van Dyke

    Consistency and unwavering tenacity are laudable. There’s far too little of either with our politicians. However, obviously with Bernie, the problem are the beliefs he stubbornly clings to, no matter any evidence to point to the folly of the system he espouses.

    Dana (4fb37f)

  58. Says someone in the 4% of people on the right who don’t approve of Trump, not the 96% who do.

    OK, they are creating their own acceptable world in which to operate. Better? The point is, the more insular one’s world, the more myopic one’s view of the world becomes. With that, the greater risk of an inaccurate take on things, especially as they are measured against a faulty and corrupt indivdiual.

    Dana (4fb37f)

  59. OK, they are creating their own acceptable world in which to operate. Better?

    Yes. I think some of the Republicans who latch on to Trump are just tribal and not really thinking things through.

    Also, same with many of those who support whatever. We’re mostly tribal as a species and few people think for themselves much.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  60. I know old family Hawaiian military families going back to camp tarawa that are well armed and will never give up the right to lock and load.

    mg (8cbc69)

  61. Of course, I don’t accept your 96% to 4% comparison. If you can cite something, I’m happy to read it. However, if it is true about the percentage being 96%, then I’m happy to be in the meager 4%. I’m not going to bend to the prevailing winds simply because everyone else is willing to hold their noses and support their view of the lesser of two evils or go knowingly full-throttle into Trumpland.

    Dana (4fb37f)

  62. “The point is, the more insular one’s world, the more myopic one’s view of the world becomes.“
    Dana (4fb37f) — 2/22/2020 @ 1:21 pm

    Dana, it is quite literally impossible for someone to live a normal life and exist in a pro-Trump bubble.

    Whereas, not is it only possible for Trump critics to live in an anti-Trump bubble, most do.

    Munroe (dd6b64)

  63. Rasmussen’s approval rating polling.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  64. Union members now support medicare for all even though they have union health insurance. They say they vote bernie because they worry about healthcare for their children. Its over as shocked msnbc and cnn sanders derangement syndrome pundits realize they can’t win attacking bernie on medicare for all because union voters like everyone else are worried about healthcare for their children.

    asset (d8610a)

  65. Yes, while Bloomberg’s debate performance was so awful and he was attacked in so many more effective ways, his answer that no one wants to lose the health insurance they love overlooks the fact that many don’t love it and while they don’t want to lose medicare/medicade/private insurance entirely, they’re OK with a different plan taking over.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  66. Rasmussen has Trump at 49 approve overall, and 86 republican according to the platinum polling.

    Colonel Klink (ret) (dcbd22)

  67. Says someone in the 4% of people on the right who don’t approve of Trump, not the 96% who do.

    You are masterful at projecting!

    Now, THERE is the pot calling…

    While, again, invoking the fallacy of popular opinion.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  68. While, again, invoking the fallacy of popular opinion.

    No, you’re mistaken and you should read again for understanding.

    It’s entirely possible and happens all the time, I’m sure, that a given minority is right about something and the majority are wrong. In fact, I could easily point out several big things where I am quite sure the majority are wrong, and not just about politics. I’m not making that argument that a majority are right because they’re the majority and it is inaccurate of you to say I did.

    I’m only saying that the word “small” here is out of place, when one is themselves in a much smaller group (at least on the right): “They are creating their own acceptable small world to operate within.”

    Dana conceded my point, which was good of him or her. Likewise, and in a similar spirit, I acknowledged that many Trump supporters, sure, have not really thought through their reason for supporting him and are doing it for essentially tribal reasons; this is a common sort of behavior and not limited to support of Donald Trump, by any means.

    So, if I can be intellectually honest about that, and Dana can, would you correct your error and join us?

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  69. Once Bloomberg drops out, Clint will go back to endorsing Trump and you’ll go back to hating him and his films.

    Don’t make sh*t up, Munroe. Here’s how much I hated him almost ten years ago.
    http://www.theforvm*dot*org/diary/bird-dog/clint-eastwood-turn-80
    And this was my hate-speech against Eastwood in the comment thread.

    I was watching the movie [Changeling] and I didn’t know who directed it until I saw the closing credits. I forgot that he directed Mystic River. Unforgiven is right up there with his best, but when you put Changeling, Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby and Gran Torino together, that’s a good career for most directors. For Eastwood, that was just under a decade.

    Paul Montagu (ae8832)

  70. Clint’s a good director and at least his support of capitalist-Bloomberg over commie-Bernie is explicable. Bloomberg had one turd of a night in his first debate, but at the same time has a track record of success, for sure in business and, arguably, in governmental leadership.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  71. Eastwood has probably been a Republican longer than Trump and Bloomberg combined, but his leanings are generally libertarian. However, there’s some dissonance between his libertarian leanings and Bloomberg’s gun-grabbing.
    I wouldn’t discount the importance of this endorsement. He’s been supportive of a lot of GOP candidates for prez, including Trump.

    Paul Montagu (ae8832)

  72. Indeed.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  73. Fair enough, but nothing makes up for Froggy’s use of horizon blue fatigues even into WWII: http://www.npr.org/2020/02/21/808333569/study-finds-century-old-combat-helmet-superior-shield-against-brain-trauma

    urbanleftbehind (fb5354)

  74. So, if I can be intellectually honest about that…

    I don’t find it credible that you CAN, having read you.

    For instance, I don’t see anywhere where Dana “ceded” your BS.

    I did see where you attacked with the “projection” canard.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  75. I was certainly a lot closer than Dana in which group is larger.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  76. poor clint sounds like an empty chair
    he played a good mule

    mg (8cbc69)

  77. I almost feel I have to defend Clint Eastwood here.

    Sure, I want him to endorse Trump. However, endorsing Bloomberg makes a lot more sense for President than DRJ’s plan (paraphrasing) to vote for Biden because, while corrupt, he’s weak and ineffective and bumbling and allegedly can be controlled better.

    At least Bloomberg is unlikely to destroy the economy.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  78. *vote for Biden in the Texas Primary

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  79. Or go on, while President, in public about children wanting to stroke his leg hair.

    Or stroke children’s hair in public, for that matter.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  80. Looking at the number of people who say they wont vote for anyone that didn’t support Trump’s impeachment and removal and I’ll disagree. Same with those who are no longer Republicans because “Trump.”

    My question was whether there is any evidence for the charge that Mr. M. has based his judgment of a filmmaker and his work on how that filmmaker feels about Trump. Unless someone can show me that evidence, it is simply projection of the Trumpist ethic in which every judgment of value must be measured around Trump.

    Making political decisions on the basis of a candidate’s actions with respect to Trump is an entirely different matter. It is not irrational.

    Radegunda (39c35f)

  81. wonder if nevada democrats have enough fingers and toes to figure out the caucus results?

    mg (8cbc69)

  82. if you hate large sodas and guns by all means vote for the little bag of poop

    mg (8cbc69)

  83. While, again, invoking the fallacy of popular opinion.

    No, you’re mistaken and you should read again for understanding.

    It’s entirely possible and happens all the time, I’m sure, that a given minority is right about something and the majority are wrong. In fact, I could easily point out several big things where I am quite sure the majority are wrong, and not just about politics. I’m not making that argument that a majority are right because they’re the majority and it is inaccurate of you to say I did.

    I’m only saying that the word “small” here is out of place, when one is themselves in a much smaller group (at least on the right): “They are creating their own acceptable small world to operate within.”

    Dana conceded my point, which was good of him or her. Likewise, and in a similar spirit, I acknowledged that many Trump supporters, sure, have not really thought through their reason for supporting him and are doing it for essentially tribal reasons; this is a common sort of behavior and not limited to support of Donald Trump, by any means.

    So, if I can be intellectually honest about that, and Dana can, would you correct your error and join us?

    I’ll take that as a no. I’m not suprised, but I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised, I admit.

    Make America Ordered Again (23f793)

  84. That set of BS didn’t work the first time you tried it.

    It won’t get anywhere the third, either.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  85. When did 96% of “people on the right” start approving Trump? Even his own polls show it’s “people who identify as Republicans to pollsters”. How many is that in the first place, and how can you be on the right and call yourself a Republican these days in the second place?

    I can imagine that 96% of the roughly 14 million who voted for him in the 2016 primary still approve of him. Congratulations! Clap … clap ….. clap. Yay.

    nk (1d9030)

  86. We may all be lucky to survive the lick-spittle Richard Grenell’s “service” to His Thuggishness (pbuh).

    You can’t gut entire essential institutions like T-rump is doing.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  87. Looking like the communist is running away with Nevada. The Soviets have taken over one party and it isn’t the Republican one.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  88. essentially rigged institutions for all you elitist

    mg (8cbc69)

  89. Heh! Thanks, NJRob. I just remembered. Bernie is the most pro-gun Democrat since John Wesley Hardin. Harry Reid had an NRA A+ rating, too. Vermont and Nevada are both very pro-gun. I don’t think Vermont has ever had any gun control at all, as a matter of fact.

    You hear that, mg? Bernie is probably more pro-gun than you, you Hawaiian!

    nk (1d9030)

  90. Why is the MSM treating Harry Reid like he’s some VERY IMPORTANT PERSON. He’s an ex-Senator. Who cares what he thinks?

    And Good that people in Minnesota are wasting time on slavery. It might make a comeback. Right after the Redcoats invade Boston again.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  91. 90 Year Old Clint endorses 78 y/o Bloomberg for President.

    Damn – will these old farts just shut up and retire.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  92. Bernie is 78 years old, too. And the dots are starting to connect. If you’re a 78-year old gunsel, you should want free medical care.

    nk (1d9030)

  93. Ok, Harry Reid’s last NRA rating was B. Still not bad. And he remained pro-life. I like this sentence for the quote in the post:

    So I think you’re going to have the field winnowing fairly quickly.

    win·now
    /ˈwinō/
    verb
    gerund or present participle: winnowing
    1. blow a current of air through (grain) in order to remove the chaff.

    nk (1d9030)

  94. I didn’t concede your point, MAOA. I said: OK, they are creating their own acceptable world in which to operate. Better? The point is, the more insular one’s world, the more myopic one’s view of the world becomes. With that, the greater risk of an inaccurate take on things, especially as they are measured against a faulty and corrupt indivdiual.

    I then followed it with: Of course, I don’t accept your 96% to 4% comparison. If you can cite something, I’m happy to read it. However, if it is true about the percentage being 96%, then I’m happy to be in the meager 4%. I’m not going to bend to the prevailing winds simply because everyone else is willing to hold their noses and support their view of the lesser of two evils or go knowingly full-throttle into Trumpland.

    Dana (4fb37f)

  95. Does anybody here, in their most charitable mood, believe that Trump could formulate such a sentence?

    nk (1d9030)

  96. nk – as an unenrolled voter in Ma. I will ask for a democrat ballot and vote burnee in the primary. No difference between republicans holding office in Ma. and burnee. 27 years of voting republican in Ma. only twice did my guys win. mittens and scott brown. face meet palms.

    mg (8cbc69)

  97. 92. nk (1d9030) — 2/22/2020 @ 4:18 pm

    If you’re a 78-year old gunsel, you should want free medical care.

    But he;s got it, as a member of Congress and would continue to get after he leaves, having been there long enough. Besides that, he’s got Medicare.

    One fallacy Bernie makes is he argues that virtually every other highly industrialized country spends per capita (government and private) about half of what the United States does. He does that as a kind of an argument that his plan wouldn’t cost so much. But they don’t all have “Medicare for All.”

    They have variety of different systems. Nobody, not even Bernie projects that converting to “Medicare for All” would actually save 50%. He doesn’t know and he doesn’t tackle what causes the difference.

    As a guess, it would be that hospitals, doctors and nurses unionized nurses get paid less, not just pharmaceutical companies, and there is also probably less treatment.

    Drug costs are high in the United States because of patents and regulations, which create monopolies, and prices have risen to accommodate the expenses of bringing a drug to market. A lot of innovation is prevented (anything that can’t be patented and anything that the wrong company controls the patent of and anything that won’t have large quantities of it sold, like a new antibiotic) and even more would be with more cost pressure and regulation.

    You could at least buy up patents of worthy drugs every year.

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  98. I think a lot of people were too hard on Scott Brown. Where did he “deviate” to your disapproval, because he seemed to say the right things/vote the right way on immigration.

    Shouldn’t play the same purity games in MA as in TX with Cruz; that backfired on McSally and could pose a threat to McConnell where Bevin boys and those who think hes not enough of a populist nationalist conservative might sit out like the Ward and Arpaio factions.

    urbanleftbehind (fb5354)

  99. . I do not believe anyone should get the nomination unless they have 50-[percent]-plus-one…

    But that’s what happened with George McGovern in 1972, Jimmy Carter in 196 and Bill Clinton in 1992.

    I do think that that can’t happen so easily if someone finishes the primaries with less than 35% of the delegates.

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  100. nk @2 and 3

    So … courts will not be able to impose community service as a punishment, either directly or indirectly as a choice between that and jail?

    I think it is voluntary servitude if the person convicted can choose to go to jail rather than do the community service. They also usually have a much freer choice of what work to do and when.

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  101. YMMV, but usually not a good idea to mess with a Noo Yawk Vowel (unless they’re a Cuomo)…

    http://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-host-neil-cavuto-doesnt-back-down-trump-tweets-him-during-the-show-052516770.html

    urbanleftbehind (fb5354)

  102. An indictment against public education?
    Lest you forget, a ‘private education’ may not be anything to brag about either:

    Trump reportedly doesn’t know what happened at Pearl Harbor

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-reportedly-doesnt-know-happened-182600170.html

    President Trump may need a history tutor.A Very Stable Genius, a new book by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig based on hundreds of interviews, alleges Trump seemed to know next to nothing about the events of Dec. 7, 1941 when he visited Pearl Harbor in Hawaii for a private tour.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  103. Wonder what the DNC rules are on delegate reallocation are if a 78 year-old front runner drops dead of a heart attack on the campaign trail– or worse, once they get the party nom?

    Does Trump run against himself?? He might lose. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. 14. Make America Ordered Again (23f793) — 2/22/2020 @ 9:00 am

    Will Chamberlain has a good video about scumbags in the intelligence community leaking a story about Bernie’s campaign being helped by the Russians, right before the Nevada primary.

    I am not so sure whom Bernie blames for that, but he seemed to think it is notable that the story appeared in the Washington Post.

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-takes-aim-at-washington-post-for-timing-of-russia-story

    The Sanders campaign in the past has complained about the Washington Post being owned by Jeff Bezos, one of the richest men in the world and a frequent target of Sanders’s anti-billionaire rhetoric, and the candidate has alleged the Post‘s campaign coverage is biased against him.

    The Post told the Washington Free Beacon Friday that it did not time its report to harm Sanders and reiterated editor Marty Baron’s guarantee that Bezos has no influence over the newspaper’s coverage.

    I think this in indeed a red herring, and it’s not because Jeff Bezos wanted Michael Bloomberg to run for president. The connection is the leak machine – people who plant stories, but I don’t think it’s quite exactly “the intelligence community” or Obama people.

    But they must have some other preferences for president, who is not Trump and not Bernie Sanders.

    This is the same sort of thing the IC pulls a lot, such as releasing the Comey briefing about the B.S. Steele dossier, to turn that into a political news story.

    The IC should be brought to heel; but then, it’s best not to be assassinated by them, so not sure how much the President can do.

    Are there white hats in the IC? Sure. But many of them are slime.

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  105. This is the same sort of thing the IC pulls a lot, such as releasing the Comey briefing about the B.S. Steele dossier, to turn that into a political news story.

    The IC should be brought to heel; but then, it’s best not to be assassinated by them, so not sure how much the President can do.

    Are there white hats in the IC? Sure. But many of them are slime.

    There might also be several different types of leakers. If connected, I’d say they were pro-Clinton but I am not sure who that would make them for this year.

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  106. Brown was mittens rump swab. Brown had his tee pee burnt to the ground by lieawatha in a disastrous run campaign. Mittens people.
    Brown was to bipartisan to get conservatives in Ma. to vote. Voting for dodd frank, etc, etc.

    mg (8cbc69)

  107. IIRC, Brown was the crucial vote in the Senate that momentarily killed ObamaCare, forcing the Deemocrates to outright break the law to ram to the American people.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  108. In the last debate, Bernie Sanders came close to blaming the Russians for doing bad things.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/full-transcript-ninth-democratic-debate-las-vegas-n1139546

    [MSNBC Anchor Hallie] JACKSON: Senator Warren, I have a question for you. On Sunday, on “Meet the Press,” Vice President Biden accused Senator Sanders’ supporters of bullying union leaders here with, quote, “vicious, malicious, misogynistic things.” You said Democrats cannot build an inclusive party on a foundation of hate. Are Senator Sanders and his supporters making
    it harder for Democrats to unify in November? [She asks Warren first! She’s trying to build her up, I think.]

    [Elizabeth Warren makes a short reply, saying we are all responsible for our supporters. And we need to step up. And then goes into some prepared remarks. Then comes Bernie’s turn]

    JACKSON: Senator Sanders?

    SANDERS: We have over 10.6 million people on Twitter, and 99.9 percent of them are decent human beings, are working people, are people who believe in justice, compassion, and love. And if there are a few people who make ugly remarks, who attack trade union leaders, I disown those people. They are not part of our movement.

    But let me also say what I hope my friends up here will agree with is that if you look at the wild west of the internet, talk to some of the African-American women on my campaign. Talk to Senator Nina Turner. Talk to others and find the vicious, racist, sexist attacks that are coming their way, as well.

    So I would hope that all of us understand that we should do everything we possibly can to end the viciousness and ugliness on the internet. Our campaign is about issues. It’s about fighting for the working families and the middle class. It is not about vicious attacks on other people.

    JACKSON: Senator, thank you.

    BUTTIGIEG: Senator, when you say that you disown these attacks and you didn’t personally direct them, I believe you.

    SANDERS: Well, thank you.

    BUTTIGIEG: But at a — but at a certain point, you got to ask yourself, why did this pattern arise? Why is it especially the case among your supporters that this happens?

    SANDERS: I don’t think it is especially the case, by the way.

    BUTTIGIEG: That’s just not true. Look, people know the way your supporters treat them.

    SANDERS: Well, Pete, if you want to talk to some of the women on my campaign, what you will see is the most ugly, sexist, racist attacks that are — I wouldn’t even describe them here, they’re so disgusting.

    And let me say something else about this, not being too paranoid. All of us remember 2016, and what we remember is efforts by Russians and others to try to interfere in our election and divide us up. I’m not saying that’s happening, but it would not shock me.

    [I think it’s more likely to be Americans behind this, but not anybody actually pro-Sanders. It gets publicity. It’s probably intended to be counter-productive.]

    I saw some of those tweets regarding the Culinary Workers Union. I have a 30-year 100 percent pro-union voting record. Do you think I would support or anybody who supports me would be attacking union leaders? It’s not thinkable.

    BUTTIGIEG: But leadership is about what you draw out of people. It’s what — it’s about how you inspire people to act.

    (APPLAUSE)

    And right now, we’re in this toxic political environment. Leadership isn’t just about policy. I think at least in broad terms, we’re largely pulling in the same direction on policy, but leadership is also about how you motivate people to treat other people.

    I think you have to accept some responsibility and ask yourself what it is about your campaign in particular that seems to be motivating this behavior more than others, because in order to turn the page on the Trump era, we’re going to need a president, not just a candidate who can win, but a president who can move us forward.

    KLOBUCHAR: I have an idea — I have an idea of how we can stop sexism on the internet. We could nominate a woman for candidate for president of the United States….. [???]

    Then she goes on talk about what the issue is between Senator Sanders and the Culinary Union. “There are 149 million Americans that would lose their current health insurance under Senator Sanders’ bill. That’s what it says on page 8.” (of his bill)

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  109. 107. Ragspierre (d9bec9) — 2/22/2020 @ 5:55 pm

    IIRC, Brown was the crucial vote in the Senate that momentarily killed ObamaCare, forcing the Deemocrates to outright break the law to ram to the American people.

    Scott Brown came into the Senate too late. He meant the Democrats could not defeat a filibuster. What that meant is that the House had to pass the Senate bill unchanged, without going to a conference committee.

    They later on actually did pass some changes, getting rid of the Cornhusker kickback for instance, through some procedure, but kept the language about states setting up exchanges, because they didn’t want to raise the CBO estimate of the cost of the bill and assuming every state would do it saved money on administrative costs. I think they figured they would fix it in the next Congress, when the changed cost estimate wouldn’t matter, but they lost control of the House of Representatives in the 2010 election.

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  110. Bloomberg released 3 people from NDAs and says that as long as he is running his company, there won’t be any more.

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  111. New Fox drinking game; take a belt every time one of their droids barks ‘socialism!’

    You’ll be hammered and sickled within an hour.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  112. @1. SOP. It wouldn’t be particularly funny nor entertaining to produce a comedy segment where some one knows all the answers. There’s already a popular show for that— Jeopardy!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  113. Trump has flipped the 9th Circuit — and some new judges are causing a ‘shock wave’

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-22/trump-conservative-judges-9th-circuit

    harkin (b64479)

  114. One intelligence official said that lawmakers were not told that Russia was working to directly aid Trump. But other people familiar with the meeting said they were told the Kremlin was looking to help Trump’s candidacy. The people spoke on condition of anonymity to discussed the classified briefing.

    Both things can be true.

    President Donald Trump said Sunday that he has never been briefed about Russian efforts to help Bernie Sanders win the Democratic presidential nomination and he accused the Democratic chairman of the House Intelligence Committee of leaking election security information from a classified briefing.

    Now THAT strains credulity. T-rump was never briefed, but he knows that someone leaked information that he was never provided.

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  115. Number three could be true, too. That it’s all dezinformatsiya. That all Putin did was plant stories about influencing the election, letting the dog food and toilet paper salesmen (a/k/a the media) sow the chaos and cast doubts on the legitimacy of our elections.

    nk (1d9030)

  116. nk, I get the whole thing EXCEPT how T-rump knows about information he was not provided being leaked by anybody. What information?

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  117. Trump feels pretty confident that the leak came from the House Intelligence Committee. He also feels pretty confident the leak is a lie because people working for him told him they told the HPSCI no such thing (they didn’t say Russia is supporting Trump))

    Sammy Finkelman (f2d620)

  118. https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-deep-state-white-house-ce5be95f-2418-433d-b036-2bf41c9700c3.html

    “Groundswell”, huh.

    Sounds pretty deep-state-y to me. But, hey, it’s T-rump so no biggie, right?

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  119. It sounds tertiary syphilitic-ey to me. But, hey, I thought he had avoided those “land mines”, you know, the ones that carry STDs.

    nk (1d9030)

  120. I thought he had avoided those “land mines”, you know, the ones that carry STDs.

    I’ve seen where he bragged about tromping on those land mines with both feet…

    especially the married ones…

    Ragspierre (d9bec9)

  121. Justin Trudeau’s mistake wasn’t that he brown-faced on his official visit; its that he didnt get the shade quite right: http://www.yahoo.com/news/crowds-gather-greet-trump-hours-044438470.html

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  122. This orange talk has got me thinking…Curious…does anyone remember when Mitt Romney was orange?

    https://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/mitt-romneys-tan-draws-media-fire-makeup-artist/story?id=17290303

    Or John Boehner?
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-boehner-tanning-bed_n_736897

    Or when it was only Trump’s hair that was orange?
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2013/03/25/as-ivanka-trump-enters-her-prime-she-has-never-been-more-important-to-the-family-business/#3c20677c6f9e

    Personally, I like Orange especially when combined with Blue.

    PTw (894877)

  123. So we asked the man who saw it first hand — makeup artist Lazz Rodriguez, who applied powder and concealer to the candidate’s skin that night. The verdict?

    “When he walked in, I remember thinking, ‘Wow this is tanner than I thought he was,’ but I think he’s just been outside a lot lately for his campaign,” Rodriguez noted. “It was definitely a real tan.”

    Rodriguez has been a makeup artist for 25 years, and has applied cosmetics to hundreds of famous faces, including many celebrities and politicians, and a handful of presidents.

    “Clinton was definitely the fairest-skinned of politicians I’ve worked with,” he said. “But Romney was a lot darker than I expected,” he said.

    Rodriguez says that his makeup of choice for the evening was MAC NW30, a medium-range loose powder that he applies to “cut the glare” of stage lights.

    So you chose Wonkette over the make-up guy for Univision?

    Figures

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  124. House passed much needed legislation (Not)

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/484742-house-passes-historic-legislation-to-make-lynching-a-federal-hate-crime

    Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) told reporters he was considering calling for a unanimous consent vote to allow members to co-sponsor the bill, adding that Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) previously introduced the legislation during the 115th Congress and the 116th Congress.

    “That actually was a bill Don Bacon filed, and it had a lot of co-sponsors and a lot of support behind it, and then they literally in the middle of night stole it from him. And look, I’m for the bill, but they should have opened it up to more co-sponsors,” Scalise said on Wednesday.

    “I’m for the bill, I’d like to be a co-sponsor, but they moved it out quickly to the point where under the rules, you can’t add yourself as a co-sponsor,” he added. “And I’d like to seek a motion to seek unanimous consent to allow every member to be a co-sponsor that wants to be, but so far they have not allowed that under the rules.”

    You think they would want anyone else to take the credit?

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