Democratic Debate Open Thread
[guest post by Dana]
The fifth presidential debate is coming from Atlanta tonight.
The contenders on stage are: Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Pete Buttigieg, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Andrew Yang, Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, Tom Steyer and that little aloha sweetie, Tulsi Gabbard.
CNN tells me there are nine things to look for in tonight’s debate. Of course, they may have worded the points a little differently, but no matter:
*It’s Buttigieg’s turn to shine in the spotlight
*Red pill Obama’s admonition and shadow looms large
*Biden’s southern firewall will be tested but he won’t know it’s happening
*The ‘Medicare for All’ fight takes a twist (but still no one will pronounce it utterly ludicrous)
*Sanders may take take off the gloves with Warren (there will be oxygen available, if necessary)
*Voting rights will not be ignored. I missed that. What?
*Kamala Harris will join Hillary Clinton as they both try to find their way out of the woods
*Amy Klobuchar will use her bare hands to take down anyone who gets in her way
*Low polling candidates will be sweating bullets as they know that it’s their last opportunity to publicly audition for the vice-presidency.
Where you can watch it: The debate will be broadcast exclusively on MSNBC and will also stream for free on MSNBC.com and washingtonpost.com, as well as on NBC News and The Washington Post’s mobile apps, according to the Democratic National Committee. Audio of the debate will be available on SiriusXM Channel 118, and TuneIn.
Should be loads of fun!
–Dana
I like what Jim Geraghty over at National Review Online had to say about it:
Sounds a lot like what I expect from tonight, but hopefully along with some fireworks from M_ L_____ A____ S______.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 5:42 pm@1. Geraghty overlooks the endless allure of live television. Folks love watching auto racing–cars literally going in circles– to see the wall-bangers crash n’ burn.
But the set graphics already are dizzying w/those big letters in motion.
Looks like a used car lot. Test drive the one in white, JVW 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:00 pmAnd all we have on our side is Donald Trump. Wait. Is that really our side?
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:33 pmHey, man, your impeachment is stepping on my debate.
Bugg (ebf485) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:35 pmHuh?! AmyK raised $17k from ex-boyfriends?? Whatever she’s got– she’s hidin’ it well.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:35 pmIRT Klobuchar, that’s what’s referred to as either “having skills” or “being a freak”.
urbanleftbehind (56af07) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:38 pmMaybe Patterico can explain, but I’m all confused.
Why, if Chinese tariffs are supposed to convince US manufacturers to move assembly back home, why does Trump want to exempt Apple — probably the lowest-hanging target — from these tariffs? Does he hope for their support in 2020? Did they promise to stay at his hotels?
Just kidding about Pat explaining; I’m fairly clear about his thoughts on tariffs. But Trump seems to be a master at undermining his own arguments.
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:41 pmSomeone should ask Bernie what the cost of his medical care– hospitalization, heart medication and so forth– costs. And what percentage of it is covered under his Senate/government health plan.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:42 pmWhatever she’s got ON THEM – she’s hidin’ it well.
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:43 pmFIFY
I’m now watching with the sound off. Bernard Sanders is a complete nut case; would we really ever elect someone who gesticulates that much?
Today is Joe Biden’s birthday. He’s 93 or 77 or something.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:43 pmWhy, if Chinese tariffs are supposed to convince US manufacturers to move assembly back home, why does Trump want to exempt Apple — probably the lowest-hanging target — from these tariffs? Does he hope for their support in 2020?
Someone has probably told him that he can steal away some Silicon Valley votes if Elizabeth Warren is the nominee and she insists upon promising her wealth tax.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:44 pmAnd what percentage of it is covered under his Senate/government health plan.
It would not surprise me to find out that Bernie had refused to authorize the payroll deduction. Probably doesn’t have Part B of Medicare either.
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:44 pmTurned back on the sound as soon as Andrew Yang started talking. Asked about government-run daycare, he talks about family leave instead. Way to dance away from the tough question, Andy.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:46 pmStock market. Ponzi-scheme type stocks that are based on market value instead of book value take a plunge, stock market takes a plunge, economy appears to take a plunge, looks bad for the orange.
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:46 pmNow he pivots back to the UBI. Jeeze.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:46 pmSomeone should ask JoeyBee what his hair transplant and brain surgery cost and what percentage was picked up by his government Senate healthcare plan.
And, of course, plagiarism.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:46 pmWho’s the cute gal asking the questions? Is she older than Miley Cyrus?
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:47 pmMeow! Tulsi and Kamala [no, not a new detective show on Fox] got into a catfight.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:49 pmHave they congratulated Ol’Hairplugs on his new Arkansas grandchild?
Bugg (ebf485) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:49 pmMeow! Tulsi and Kamala [no, not a new detective show on Fox] got into a catfight.
Dang it! Just now? I had the sound back off when Kamala started to bloviate.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:52 pm@17. Ashley Parker -WaPO reporter– co-sponsor of debate w/MSNBC.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:52 pmStreyer is a chump, but I like his necktie.
Does Elizabeth Warren own any other earrings than those little gold balls? Are the actually permanently-implanted hearing aids?
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:53 pm@20. No, earlier, about 15-20mins., mins., ago. Tulsi held her own.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:53 pmBooker’s necktie is as boring as he is, but it’s not nearly as crazy.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:54 pmHere you go, JVW.
Dana (cb74ca) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:55 pmThanks DCSCA. Ms. Parker is the one in the plum, right?
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:55 pmSpeaking of plum/purple, I note that it is what Sen. Lieawatha has chosen for the evening. Remember Election Night 2016 when all of the Hillary Clinton people wore purple, I’m sure trying to deliver the subtle message that they would be bringing Red and Blue together? Good times, good times.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:56 pm17, 21 you meant cute as in precocious, not cute as in Lauer hit that.
urbanleftbehind (56af07) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:58 pmTulsi knows white works for her.
Dana (cb74ca) — 11/20/2019 @ 6:59 pmMayor Pete has the kind of five o’clock shadow that supposedly sunk Richard Nixon sixty years ago.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:00 pmSeriously, dude, touch it up with an electric razor before you come on stage.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:00 pm@22. The “Librarian Look” wears thin. Don’t any of these candidates have media consultants? It’s pretty bad when Rachel Maddow looks better on camera than the candidate herself.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:02 pm@30/31. Maybe he wants to look ‘butch’ tonight.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:03 pmM_ L_____ A____ S______ wants us all to eat strawberries that cost $6 per pint. Sigh.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:03 pmI wish Gabbard had more specifics. She’s has some well spoken broad generalities, but too many platitudes.
Nic (896fdf) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:04 pm@29. Yeah– couldn’t miss her- EZ white balance adjustment for the TV cameras, too.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:04 pmJoe Biden saved the planet?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:05 pm@35. She got ‘pretty specific’ in her catfight w/Kamala.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:06 pmStreyer vs. Biden with the sound off looks like two guys in the retirement home fighting over whether the TV should be set to Matlock or the Waltons.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:07 pm@37 I imagine he probably voted for some environmental laws in the Senate. That’s probably close enough for political standards.
Nic (896fdf) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:07 pmWatch the BP, Bernie! Remember your heart attack.
We do.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:08 pmShe got ‘pretty specific’ in her catfight w/Kamala.
I LOVE that she called her a liar. So true. And Kamala gave us an absolutely rehearsed line regarding M_ L_____ A____ S______, just as Jim Geraghty had predicted.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:09 pmI imagine he probably voted for some environmental laws in the Senate. That’s probably close enough for political standards.
It counted when Al Gore claimed to have taken the lead in creating the Internet. Never get in the way of a politician and undeserved credit.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:10 pmAt least ESPN gives you a place to go if you want to see good softball played.
John B Boddie (31ccf0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:11 pmBiden’s scowl always looks like he just caught me letting my dog crap on his lawn.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:12 pmNot fair; cheap shot at Trump, Bernie: it’s always 3 o’clock in the morning some where.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:15 pmBiden’s scowl always looks like he just caught me letting my dog crap on his lawn.
Watching with the sound off is very elucidating. I know I am not a neutral observer by any means, but all of the candidates look so goddammed angry. And by the way their lips are moving I get the sense that they are talking in rather loud and staccato tones. I know that is catnip to their party right now, but I wonder if they wouldn’t be better off dialing it back a bit and trying to come across as thoughtful and sincere instead of as rage monkeys.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:18 pmKlobuchar looks like she has a really painful rock stuck in her shoe, and she has to put all of her weight on that foot for some reason.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:20 pmMr. French noted that Lizzie Warren’s decline started when she gave out the details of her Medicare-For-All plan, and none other than the New York Times shredded her Big Idea. I don’t think she’ll recover because her opponents read the New York Times and they know how to take it down. She’s just not a good enough politician to climb out of it, IMO.
Paul Montagu (e08479) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:21 pmBernard Sanders would give nightmares to small children.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:21 pmBiden at the podium looks like my late grandfather did— when standing at a urinal in an airport Men’s Room. Probably a two-shaker, too.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:24 pmI don’t think she’ll recover because her opponents read the New York Times and they know how to take it down. She’s just not a good enough politician to climb out of it, IMO.
“I’ve got a plan for that too” is supposed to leave us with the sense of a competent visionary in our midst, but it just makes me think of a proto-totalitarian busybody.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:24 pmLiz has one thing going for her: she’ll out live Biden. Television adds weight and Bien still looks like a light breeze or cough from Putin could knock him over.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:29 pm@50. Or a heart attack. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:30 pmI know this is a Democrat debate, but there is so very little pushback on these candidate when they espouse the typical progressive views (yeah, I know this is MSNBC). For instance, when Yang says that we have to do more for young men to keep them on the straight-and-narrow, where is the question as to whether fatherless homes are a problem? But no, we can’t make single mothers feel like they are anything less than perfectly virtuous.
Now Biden is bloviating about campus violence, but no one is going to ask him if the Obama Administration’s ugly encouragement of kangaroo courts to adjudicate sexual assault claims made things worse by unfairly tarring college men as serial rapists.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:34 pmTonight’s Biden Gaffe:
“No man has a right to hit a woman. You have to keep punching at it and punching at it.” – Joe Biden
Comedy gold.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:35 pmMayor Pete gave Kamala that ‘Eliza Doolittle’ look:
‘Why can’t a woman, be more like a man…’ – Henry Higgins [Rex Harrison] My Fair Lady’ 1964
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:41 pmThey don’t want to know specifics, JVW, it would wreck everything.
Dana (cb74ca) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:42 pmI swtiched over to that movie about the brother & sister WWE wrestlers. Way more interesting.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:43 pmJoe Biden, friend of the black man; biggest Red Cap tipper who ever rode the rails, eh, JoeyBee.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:46 pmIt doesn’t really matter who gets the Dem nomination in that the party will wholly rally behind the individual and the right will still be left with Trump. I’m not sure which Dem could do the most damage to the nation though…
Dana (cb74ca) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:48 pmAnd you know what, Amy, Trump will say to you: ‘Wear red; you look like a fire plug.’
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:51 pmNone of these people can beat Trump.
And that includes ‘I’m now sorry I stopped and frisked you’ Michael Bloomberg and ‘Forgive me for sounding like I inhale helium before every word’ Devon Patrick.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:58 pmSigh. Now Gabbard’s in a cat-fight with Buttigieg (I have no idea if I spelled that correctly). I don’t think it’s Buttigieg she needs to overtake.
Nic (896fdf) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:01 pm@64. He’s leading in Iowa and she wants to make it that far. Biden just hopes he makes it to the car.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:03 pmBiden and Sanders both look and sound like they are a million years old. Even if it’s for different reasons.
Nic (896fdf) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:04 pmNow, who’ll take the woman with the skinny legs?
C’mon somebody please take the lady with the skinny legs
Now, you all know the lady with the skinny legs got to have somebody too, now
Will somebody please take the lady with the skinny legs, please?
Hey, Joe
Yeah Bobby?
Why don’t you take her?
You a fool?
I don’t want no woman with no skinny legs
Look here, I thought I might give this woman to Pete
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:07 pmBut, no, I know the kinda woman Pete likes
So Bernie’ll take her
Say Bernie?
You got her
@66. Yes, Bernie sounds like he knew Moses and Joe can tell us ll about the Ice Age.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:07 pmKlobuchar is 1/2 Slovenian…instant patsy material, nk.
urbanleftbehind (56af07) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:10 pmA foursome, Kamala?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:13 pmI see that Harris finally got her message together. Should’ve done that sooner if she wants the nom.
Nic (896fdf) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:15 pmTake note, Donald:
Bernie breaks new ground! Presidential candidate proudly boasts on live TeeVee in summation, “I was arrested!!”
Comedy gold.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:18 pm29 year olds aren’t kids, JoeyBee.
Except maybe to a 77 yr. old.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:21 pmDude…
Dave (1bb933) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:28 pmOut of all of em I like Klobuchar the best. Not sure she can go toe to toe with the Donald, but not sure any of them can. I like that she flat out asked moderate Republicans to vote for her. Why is Joe Biden doing so monstrously well in SC? I think those respondents are making a choice borne of loyalty and nostalgia, not reality.
JRH (52aed3) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:54 pmAlso I kind of like Booker. He seems decent. But not Presidential.
JRH (52aed3) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:55 pmMayor Pete talks a good game but he’s too eager. Kobuchar kind of put him in his place in a midwestern-nice way.
JRH (52aed3) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:56 pmI just got a fundraising email from M_ L_____ A____ S______. She’s going all in on the “let’s stop being partisan Democrats and put country before party” angle. Here’s what the email message said:
I give her a lot of credit for sticking to her guns.
JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:59 pmHawaiians need Tulsi to be the govna. swimming with dolphins today what a country. Yesterday the mana rays were following me for my 2 mile swim. Long live Hapuna beach.
Mg (49e38e) — 11/20/2019 @ 10:03 pm@47. Wise way to watch, JVW. Yes, consternation; they’re likely fed up with this format and process.
You can learn a lot– about television w/t sound down. One of my first classes toward my MS in TV Production instructed us to turn down the sound and just watch the images for hour of a televised program- not a movie but a television broadcast. It’s a visual medium where what is said is less important than what is seen; the pictures communicate quite a bit by themselves, as you noticed. For instance, you can watch football w/o an audio feed; it’s a linear game to telecast. Basketball, soccer and hockey as well. Baseball, less so. You’ll notice golf cuts quickly from shot to shot to project ‘motion’ as well. Motion is key in television; something always should be moving; you’ll seldom see a ‘static’ broadcast television image for more than 3 to 5 seconds.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/20/2019 @ 10:08 pmCan’t imagine a homosexual as the First Lady.
Mg (49e38e) — 11/20/2019 @ 10:10 pmNo? NSFW
nk (dbc370) — 11/20/2019 @ 10:44 pmIn my world Melania is no homo
Mg (49e38e) — 11/20/2019 @ 10:47 pmTrump better hope it aint tulsi in 2020!
asset (4b2829) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:47 amIt’ll mean that Putin doesn’t love him anymore, Perry?
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2019 @ 4:20 amHow’s that gerbil rodeo coming along, nk?
Mg (cbc277) — 11/21/2019 @ 4:53 amSwimming at night with the Mana Rays is a adrenaline rush. Mana Kea has lights underwater that attracts them. So cool even a notrumper could enjoy.
Mg (cbc277) — 11/21/2019 @ 4:57 amAsk Trump, mg. He just got back from one in Austin.
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2019 @ 4:59 amI’ve had fried ray at an ouzo bar in Greece. Battered with a squeeze of lemon, with the cartilage left in. Delicious. But I think those are the small ones in the shallows near the shore.
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2019 @ 5:07 amShould be loads of fun!
–Dana
Sorry I missed the fun, but I had some drying paint I had to keep an eye on.
I’ve been told Booker said some things that led some people to believe he might be a secret capitalist, Biden and Sanders said some things that led some people to believe their water glasses had been spiked with LSD, Warren said some things that led some people to believe she was under the impression she was running for schoolmarm, and a couple of other candidates said some things that led some people to believe they weren’t sufficiently America-hating enough to apply the coup de grâce to our little experiment in Western Civilization – was that pretty much it?
Jerryskids (702a61) — 11/21/2019 @ 5:08 amPoor mans lobster, nk.
Mg (cbc277) — 11/21/2019 @ 5:26 amMighty tasty with a browned butter sauce.
Fishing joke for you, mg. Only slightly NSFW.
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2019 @ 5:37 amThat’s a classic, nk.
Mg (cbc277) — 11/21/2019 @ 5:41 amPardon my ignorance; who is M_ L_____ A____ S______?
Bugg (47841b) — 11/21/2019 @ 6:26 amAnd, I think, on Bloomberg radio (several stations, including 1130 AM in New York)
But I missed it.
A transcript can be found at:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/read-democratic-debate-transcript-november-20-2019-n1088186
and probably at other places, as well as video.
Sammy Finkelman (c95a5a) — 11/21/2019 @ 7:24 am“My Little Aloha Sweetie”. JVW’s pet name for Tulsi Gabbard.
Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 11/21/2019 @ 7:27 amThen you aren’t from NJ and know nothing about him. He’s a crook and a liar. Go ask TBone.
NJRob (4d595c) — 11/21/2019 @ 9:18 amFiona Hill ripped a new hole into Trump and Nunes:
Fiona Hill tells impeachment inquiry about a ‘fictional narrative’ on Ukrainian interference
Fiona Hill, the former White House adviser on Russia, opened her testimony before the impeachment inquiry Thursday with withering criticism of Republican attempts to sow doubt that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
“This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services,” Hill said in her opening statement.
….
“ Some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country,” she said…..
“The unfortunate truth is that Russia was the foreign power that systematically attacked our democratic institutions,” Hill said. “It is beyond dispute.” ….
Hill said she sees such claims as a dangerous distortion of what happened in 2016, while warning that Russia is continuing to seek to take advantage of divisions in U.S. politics.
“I refuse to be part of an effort to legitimize an alternate narrative that the Ukrainian government is a U.S. adversary, and that Ukraine — not Russia — attacked us in 2016,” she said.
She described the United States as “being torn apart. Truth is questioned. Our highly professional and expert career Foreign Service is being undermined.” At the same time, she said, “Russia’s security services and their proxies have geared up to repeat their interference in the 2016 election. We are running out of time to stop them.” ….
Rip Murdock (ff876c) — 11/21/2019 @ 9:21 amWords I would love to hear:
Tulsi: “I won’t be lectured on ethics by someone who slept her way onto this stage!”
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/21/2019 @ 10:57 amIt’s patriotism that drove Tulsi to serve and it’s patriotism that unites us all in this moment.
More:
Tulsi: “I served my country, and continue to do so. Who did you serve?”
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/21/2019 @ 11:02 amOf course Russia attempted to interfere in the 2016 election. So did China. So what? This is a complete perspective loss. 99% of disinformation was produced domestically, a good part of that from the national media (yes, this includes Fox). Election campaigns have bee wall-to-wall lies since Jefferson went after Adams.
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/21/2019 @ 11:08 amShe described the United States as “being torn apart. Truth is questioned. Our highly professional and expert career Foreign Service is being undermined.” At the same time, she said, “Russia’s security services and their proxies have geared up to repeat their interference in the 2016 election. We are running out of time to stop them.” ….
Truth is being questioned. We must put a stop to that. Perhaps some laws criminalizing the questioning of truth? A Truth Board to OK political commercials (or candidates)? Maybe the Iranian model where one Supreme Authority vets all candidates?
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/21/2019 @ 11:11 amThe FBI question Reality!
nk (dbc370) — 11/21/2019 @ 11:16 amWeird question: as the field winnows downward – whose (of the remaining or recently exited D candidaes) endorsements would help Gabbard and whose endorsements would hurt her? At this point, someone might want to buy the first drink so that they are prime for an upper cabinet post.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 11/21/2019 @ 11:33 am@98 And she’s engaging in propaganda, either intentionally or unintentionally. Later in the testimony, the report that the committee voted on was mentioned.
This is almost entirely self-inflicted.
frosty (f27e97) — 11/21/2019 @ 11:36 amSo if you get paid for it, it doesn’t count?
In that case she may still be a virgin…
Dave (fcd131) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:09 pm55. JVW (54fd0b) — 11/20/2019 @ 7:34 pm
And what are they supposed to do about fatherless homes?
More birth control? More abortions? Advising everybody against premarital sex? (the latter creates short lived relationships)
Sammy Finkelman (c95a5a) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:17 pmIn that case she may still be a virgin…
You go Dutch on dates?
Kevin M (19357e) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:18 pmI don’t remember.
Dave (fcd131) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:21 pm@102. So opines an unelected bureaucrat. Aside from gender the only difference between Dr. Hill and Dr. Kissinger is Henry has a much cooler accent to mimic.
Sing it, kids: “She’s just too good to be true; she’s so much better than you…”
Because, you know…. “State.”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:21 pm75. JRH (52aed3) — 11/20/2019 @ 8:54 pm
About 60% of the Democratic primary electorate in South Carolina is African American, and I think the political leaders there have endorsed Biden. And you’re dealing with the most “regular” voters there are.
Sammy Finkelman (c95a5a) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:23 pmStop paying poor women to have children out of wedlock?
Dave (fcd131) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:27 pmEven joe scarboro noticed biden’s senility its time the new grandfather ( hunters paternity test was positive! ) steps aside for tulsi gabbard. What a debate tulsi vs trump would be!
asset (a1d387) — 11/21/2019 @ 12:50 pmIndeed, watching them each try to outdo the other in fawning over Putin would be amusing.
Dave (1bb933) — 11/21/2019 @ 1:02 pmI saw a few minutes, and thought i was watching a rerun of a previous debate. Maybe they should get some objective journalists to ask some tough questions from the other side’s POV. Y’know like the R’s do every 4 years.
rcocean (1a839e) — 11/21/2019 @ 1:15 pm@115. Then you musta caught one of the funniest ‘elect me’ pitches for president ever uttered:
“I was arrested!” – Bernie Sanders.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2019 @ 1:37 pmHilarious: Former Russian Ambassador McFaul just noted on MSNBC that he met/knew Dr. Hill back in the day when she was in Moscow working on projects to promote democracy in Russia.
Patient died but the operation was a ‘success,’– eh, Doc?
She knows better than you because… you know.. “State.”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 11/21/2019 @ 1:54 pmYou consider that witty? Typical.
NJRob (4d595c) — 11/21/2019 @ 5:05 pmRIP Jake Burton Carpenter
A friend who had vision.
mg (8cbc69) — 11/21/2019 @ 5:34 pmThanks for sharing this.
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