10/20/2019

47 Responses to “Trump Reverses Decision On G-7 Location, Blames Crazed Democrats And Media”

1. Good morning.

   Dana (05f22b) — 10/20/2019 @ 9:53 am

   
   

2. The G7 in 1990 was hosted at Rice University and venues around Houston. Why do you think that was? Do you think anybody had some pull with their Bush connections?

   Munroe (53beca) — 10/20/2019 @ 10:09 am

   
   

3. It was on the tee, and Mulvaney whiffed:

   “We were never really going to Doral, we just wanted to watch you prissies brown your shorts over it.”

   Matador (39e0cd) — 10/20/2019 @ 10:15 am

   
   

4. @2 you’ve nailed where the line between “questionable” and “unacceptable” is.

   Time123 (b37360) — 10/20/2019 @ 10:34 am

   
   

5. I’m glad the Trump administration realized what they were doing was wrong and moved to correct their mistake. It’s too bad they couldn’t do it with some grace but ugly or clean this was the right thing to do. Good for them.

   Time123 (b37360) — 10/20/2019 @ 10:36 am

   
   

6. ’you’ve nailed where the line between “questionable” and “unacceptable” is.’
   Time123 (b37360) — 10/20/2019 @ 10:34 am

   More like the line between crafty and overt. If I have to choose, give me the latter.

   Munroe (53beca) — 10/20/2019 @ 10:39 am

   
   

7. Mulvaney seems to be speaking too fast and says things that are wrong in Trump’s defense. He got sll tangled up in a quid pro quo and said it was given without conditions. The problem is that was after there was after a little bit of controversy. Better would have been to point out that Ukraine was never told of any conditions on the aid.

   The problem is these people have to somehow get around Donald Trump’s impulses. So they are not saying precisely what happened. The hold on aid to Ukraine seems to have been it was very informal and they were waiting to see if Trump got a better feeling about it.

   The way this got linked maybe was that oorruption was an issue, and Trump had mentioned “in passing” that he considered interference in the 2016 election one example of something that needed to be looked into.

   at ZERO COST to the USA

   That’s the first I heard of this offer. a letter to the New York Times said suspending of all charges for attendees from foreogn countries it would be one way that would OK with him. Did Trum[ stilll want to charge somebody?

   This doesn’t really sound like something that should be prevendted, if a fair and impartial price could be set. Trump might eventually deed it, or part of it, to the United States, as was intention of a previous owner.

   Sammy Finkelman (0d0ca8) — 10/20/2019 @ 10:58 am

   
   

8. I guess the emoluments clause didn’t apply then,

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_G7_summit

   narciso (d1f714) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:06 am

   
   

9. Bad optics. Like holding impeachment inquiries in secret, with limited participation
   of House members.

   Sounds like Doral checked all the boxes, and then some. If Trump wanted to get rich,
   he could have had the Government of China give each of his kids $2billion to invest for
   the Govt of China. That is not illegal, nor bad optics.

   We will never have to experience another CEO as president again. Who ever they are,
   regardless of party will suffer exactly the same treatment.

   iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:13 am

   
   

10. Yeah, Trump should have understood that the D’s and Media would unfairly and stupidly criticize a no-profit deal to host it at Doral, which would been great and harmed no one.

    Never-Trumper: G-7 at Doral is an Outrage. I don’t care if Trump doesn’t profit from it. I hate him.
    Trump: Ok – No G-7 at Doral
    Never-Trumper: Trump is so stupid. He should known we’d get upset over nothing, raise a big stink, and force him to cancel!

    rcocean (1a839e) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:18 am

    
    

11. 9. Suffer? That’s an interesting choice of words. A significant number of Americans have bent over backwards to make excuses for Trump and make it known that they intend to vote for him again. I wouldn’t count Trump out for another term.

    Gryph (08c844) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:19 am

    
    

12. Trump sucks.

    nk (dbc370) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:24 am

    
    

13. Trump did the right thing, since the G-7 would’ve been next year right in the middle of Campaign year, and it just gave the Democrat Media a target to shoot at. You can just imagine it, every question by the Democrat Media would’ve been “Enough of all this foreign policy Nonsense, Mr. Trump, how do justify your making a profit off the G-7”?

    If Trump get re-elected, he can hold a international meeting (G-7 or not) at a Trump golf course, and tell his critics to jump in the lake.

    rcocean (1a839e) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:27 am

    
    

14. Romney and warren suck.

    rcocean (1a839e) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:28 am

    
    

15. BTW, did you read the puff piece in the Atlantic on Mittens? He’s now, officially, the “New Maverick”. Y’see he’s “Liberated” from having to care about his campaign promises or caring what the voters or his constituents think. All that stuff he said to get elected, that’s in the trash. Mittens is now “his own man” who’s going to do “what he wants – no matter what”.
    

    Mittens now representing Mittens – a US State of one. He’s gone Flake, and has five years to go. He has 60 things to do, mostly related to “reaching across the aisle” and helping the D’s. He’s going to work on Healthcare aka Romneycare, Climate Change, Amnesty, and cutting Social Security (disguised as Entitlements”). There’s also some blather about “cutting the deficit” but that’s way down the list. Per Mittens, Trump’s not going to be President forever, and Mittens will be there in the Senate pushing for the Mittens agenda.

    rcocean (1a839e) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:36 am

    
    

16. If Trump get re-elected, he can hold a international meeting (G-7 or not) at a Trump golf course, and tell his critics to jump in the lake.

    rcocean (1a839e) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:27 am

    True. He can do anything then.

    DRJ (15874d) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:36 am

    
    

17. If meeting at a place like Doral is such a good idea, shouldn’t Trump be looking at other large resorts — like the ones in Utah and Hawaii that made the final cut (before Trump substituted his resort) — instead of Camp David? America has many large resorts to choose from that don’t present emolument issues, and a President should promote American businesses.

    DRJ (15874d) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:42 am

    
    

18. But Utah and Hawaii are Romney and Obama areas, so maybe that was a deal killer.

    DRJ (15874d) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:43 am

    
    

19. I have no problem with Trump steering business to his home states of New York and Florida. He is proud of them and wants to help them. But that would mean steering business to competitors. I doubt he will do that either.

    DRJ (15874d) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:46 am

    
    

20. Boy, it’s tough being a President and business owner. Someone should think of ways to avoid that problem like divestment or a blind trust.

    DRJ (15874d) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:48 am

    
    

21. Munroe,

    George HW Bush did not own Texas or even Rice University. Did you know that?

    Dustin (915f3d) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:58 am

    
    

22. 13. So you’ve as much as admitted that this was political calculus. If Trump was such a master politician, I wonder why he had to change his mind at all. Why couldn’t he have just done the right thing to start with?

    Gryph (08c844) — 10/20/2019 @ 12:00 pm

    
    

23. More like the line between crafty and overt. If I have to choose, give me the latter.

    So as long as the corrupt self-dealing is done in plain sight, it’s A-OK? You prefer a president who doesn’t even give any thought to whether his actions are right or wrong?

    Or: as long as Trump does it, then it must be OK? That’s clearly what Trump himself believes. And so, apparently, do his devotees.

    When Trump said “I thought I was doing something very good for our Country” by steering a government contract to his own business, he may have been as sincere as he could be about anything, because he is incapable of seeing a difference between what’s good for Trump and what’s good in the unqualified sense. He told us openly that he wanted to keep a bad employee in the White House because “she said GREAT things about me.” He really believed that was the most important qualification.

    Trump fans have insisted that the “unfiltered” quality means a basic honesty — even as Trump frequently contradicts himself and makes demonstrably, ludicrously false statements. In reality, the reason he can be nasty and corrupt so brazenly is because he is unburdened by conscience, and he thinks it’s impossible that he could actually do anything truly wrong.

    Radegunda (dd98be) — 10/20/2019 @ 12:06 pm

    
    

24. No matter where the meeting is finally held, will the attendees still get a chance to drink Trump wine?

    John B Boddie (31ccf0) — 10/20/2019 @ 12:14 pm

    
    

25. Somebody told noodle-brain that “corruptly receives” under the bribery statute is a question of fact for the jury … or the Senate, and that the statute of limitations is five years. That’s what happened.

    nk (dbc370) — 10/20/2019 @ 12:23 pm

    
    

26. The G7 in 1990 was hosted at Rice University and venues around Houston. Why do you think that was? Do you think anybody had some pull with their Bush connections?

    Exactly how did Bush profit from this? No inuendos, just facts, please. And links to prove your assertions.

    Chuck Bartowski (bc1c71) — 10/20/2019 @ 12:42 pm

    
    

27. The sad part is that the Doral would have been a very good place to hold the meting.

    David in Cal (0d5a1d) — 10/20/2019 @ 2:32 pm

    
    

28. Oh, Boo F…… Hoo, the media don’t like Camp David because it’s too remote, they can’t stay there, and the drives in and out are too tiring.
    Hey, guess what media, life isn’t all about you.
    Sounds like the perfect location in the USA for a G7 meeting.

    askeptic (8af770) — 10/20/2019 @ 3:26 pm

    
    

29. I’ve been saying it for awhile and I still believe Trump thinks he’s CEO of America, not President Of The United States.

    I know the POTUS is chief executive but Trump apparently can’t distinguish the difference and thinks he can operate as if he’s the boss who everyone must obey, please and praise. CEOs also don’t have 90% of the media working to tarnish and undermine everything they do. Notwithstanding the Resistance, he’s really squandered the opportunity of appearing as the adult. If he’d just practiced reticence and resisted needless petulant outbursts he’d have approval ratings in the 60s.

    The hospitality angle seems to fit too. The next year and two weeks are going to be interesting.

    harkin (6776a3) — 10/20/2019 @ 6:02 pm

    
    

30. The sad part is that the Doral would have been a very good place to hold the meting.

    The facilities themselves, perhaps, but security for such a meeting in a major part of Miami’s urban sprawl would cause major headaches for everyone around. Just consider this: Doral lies close to, if not directly under, a major flight path into/out of Miami International Airport that would probably have to be restricted for security reasons while the meeting was in progress (kind of like with Reagan in DC, but not permanently). MIA being a major hub, there would be knock-on effects not only along the East Coast and in the Southeast US, but also the Caribbean, and all of Latin America.

    Trump touted Doral’s closeness to MIA as being a plus. It’s actually a negative.

    Kishnevi (eef23c) — 10/20/2019 @ 6:31 pm

    
    

31. @5-I’m glad the Trump administration realized what they were doing was wrong and moved to correct their mistake. It’s too bad they couldn’t do it with some grace but ugly or clean this was the right thing to do. Good for them.

    LOL!
    Trump reversed course on hosting G-7 at his club after learning that impeachment-weary Republicans were tired of defending him
    President Trump was forced to abandon his decision to host next year’s Group of Seven summit at his private golf club after it became clear the move had alienated Republicans and swiftly become part of the impeachment inquiry that threatens his presidency.
    In a round of phone calls with conservative allies this weekend, Trump was told Republicans are struggling to defend him on so many fronts, according to an administration official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters.
    …
    Mulvaney’s acknowledgment of a mistake — he also said Sunday that the news conference had been less than “perfect” — comes as Trump has privately expressed displeasure with his acting chief’s job performance and as some White House officials are seeking to replace him, according to several people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to reveal private discussions. Several officials said Trump’s aides and allies are considering options for a new chief of staff.
    …..
    But the chief of staff may have damaged that standing with his Fox News interview, in which he explained Trump’s desire to host the G-7 at his property by saying the president “still considers himself to be in the hospitality business.”

    Rip Murdock (d93e1f) — 10/20/2019 @ 7:43 pm

    
    

32. Trump should choose Sunnylands in Rancho Mirage, the “Camp David of the West.”

    Rip Murdock (d93e1f) — 10/20/2019 @ 7:48 pm

    
    

33. Usually they hold these at Bond-villain-class lairs, like some schloss by Lake Geneva. I didn’t mind Trump hosting them at his place, although the gold-plated toilet seats might not impress as much as Trump would hope.

    Kevin M (19357e) — 10/20/2019 @ 11:25 pm

    
    

34. Now Trump is raging against the “phone Emoluments Clause” — the one that’s really in the Constitution — after having essentially acknowledged that he’s still involved in the business decisions he claimed to have totally dissociated himself from. How else could he say “I would be willing to do it at NO PROFIT!”

    Mulvaney said “At the end of the day he still considers himself to be in the hospitality business.” And he thought that was a defense of Trump’s wish to give a government contract to his own business?!

    I guess that falls under “I’ve you’re being corrupt in plain sight, it’s fine!”

    Radegunda (dd98be) — 10/21/2019 @ 11:12 am

    
    

35. Man in MAGA hat sprays Trump protesters with bear repellant

    A man wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat blasted anti-Trump protesters on Santa Monica Pier with bear repellent.

    “Bear repellent” – the irony.

    Happily, the cultist terrorist was arrested.

    Dave (1bb933) — 10/21/2019 @ 12:24 pm

    
    

36. Some people say.

    “It’s one of the biggest. Some people say its the biggest in the world”. (Trump comment today on Miami Airport near Doral)

    I thought, hmm, I have never thought of it as competing for the busiest airport so I looked it up. The 20th largest airport (Denver) has 65 million passengers annually versus 45 million for Miami. Tripsavvy says Miami International is the 40th busiest.

    But hey, “some people say”. When he says those words, even he knows he’s lying. He just gets to make another wild claim without culpability.

    noel (f22371) — 10/21/2019 @ 2:01 pm

    
    

37. Doral? Oh please, it’s a failed golf resort that has been losing money for years and has had over 500 health violations, including vermin, roach and fly infestations in serving areas. Not to mention foreign workers on H2-B visas not washing their hands.

    Great place to hold a meeting of international leaders.

    Everything Trump reduces to Dump. Or Drumpf, depending on how you read the etymology.

    This guy is a complete failure at business, a total fraud. Yet he somehow managed to secure an electoral college victory against the worst Democratic candidate EVER, whom he had contributed to, supported and praised before.

    A Republican he is not, but all the Republicans rush to defend him, the Anti-Republican. Just as so many Evangelicals rush to defend the Anti-Christ. This man is no Republican and no Christian. He is the anti-thesis of everything they pretend to espouse for.

    A vermin, roach and fly infested golf resort? Staffed by immigrant workers who don’t wash their hands? This is the best that America has to offer to visiting dignitaries from the seven most advanced, developed and sophisticated countries in the world.

    Everything Trump turns to Dump.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 10/21/2019 @ 4:30 pm

    
    

38. In terms of overall flight numbers (including cargo) MIA seems to be about 24th/25th five or so years ago[the figures for the most recent years on Wikipedia don’t go that far] in the world. But the four biggest in the world by that standard are all US airports: Atlanta, O’Hare, Dallas Fort Worth, Los Angeles. Beijing is consistently in fifth. Most of the remaining top ten are American. But JFK is only 19th…maybe because it has to share NYC traffic with LaGuardia and Newark.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_by_aircraft_movements

    Kishnevi (356aa4) — 10/21/2019 @ 5:12 pm

    
    

39. I didn’t play the clip – i don’t care what Chris Wallace says about anything. Did we elect him to something? I must have missed that.

    rcocean (1a839e) — 10/21/2019 @ 11:49 pm

    
    

40. Trump tweeted that his Never Trump opponents are human scum — his version of Hillary’s deplorables.

    Be proud, Americans. Your leaders think you are deplorable scum, and you love it.

    DRJ (15874d) — 10/23/2019 @ 4:53 pm

    
    

41. 40… Is that just this side of “Cheeto Jesus”, or beyond?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/23/2019 @ 5:09 pm

    
    

42. All that Trump’s tweet abot ever-Trumpers means is that he is more disturbed at Republican defections than at Democratic accusations.

    He’s actually not helping himself with any of this. I don’t think he really will convince anyone.

    Sammy Finkelman (71800b) — 10/23/2019 @ 5:18 pm

    
    

43. Actually, Trump tweeted NeverTrump Republicans were human scum.

    But oh my, Fox Sports airs warm and fuzzy Houston Astros promo they made for opening of World Series game 2 wrongly depicting Buzz Aldrin as Neil Armstrong!!!

    How the hell could that have happened??!!

    Sinister plot by Fox Sports intern rooting for another Nationals win?? Aldrin family bribe? Mislabeled ‘man on moon clip’ in Fox video inventory??

    Or maybe just a better television image selected by the producer and editor for broadcast.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2019 @ 5:21 pm

    
    

44. Good for Trump calling the Middle East out totally today for what it is– centuries of battling over blood-soaked sand. Yes, do let some one else do the fighting. Can’t wait ’til the parasited ingrates start hurling fruit and Molotov cocktails at Russians.

    And if you know anything about the Middle East– they will, in time, soon enough.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2019 @ 5:29 pm

    
    

45. Fox has football broadcast rights for the Big Ten (Armstrong, Purdue), not with independent Army (Aldrin).

    urbanleftbehind (3b8f2b) — 10/23/2019 @ 5:30 pm

    
    

46. 43. All people in spacesuits look alike.

    Trump, by the way. thought (or at least said) that the first double spacewalk by two women was the fr=irst space walk by women.

    Sammy Finkelman (71800b) — 10/23/2019 @ 5:33 pm

    
    

47. @46. No. They don’t.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/23/2019 @ 5:48 pm