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10/18/2019

State Dept. Official Raised Concerns About Hunter Biden On Ukraine Energy Board In 2015, Was Rebuffed By Joe Biden Aide

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:15 am



[guest post by Dana]

Per the Washington Post:

A career State Department official overseeing Ukraine policy told congressional investigators this week that he had raised concerns in early 2015 about then-Vice President Joe Biden’s son serving on the board of a Ukrainian energy company but was turned away by a Biden staffer, according to three people familiar with the testimony.

George Kent, a deputy assistant secretary of state, testified Tuesday that he worried that Hunter Biden’s position at the firm Burisma Holdings would complicate efforts by U.S. diplomats to convey to Ukrainian officials the importance of avoiding conflicts of interest, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of confidentiality rules surrounding the deposition.

Kent said he had concerns that Ukrainian officials would view Hunter Biden as a conduit for currying influence with his father, said the people. But when Kent raised the issue with Biden’s office, he was told the then-vice president didn’t have the “bandwidth” to deal with the issue involving his son as his other son, Beau, was battling cancer, said the people familiar with his testimony.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

161 Responses to “State Dept. Official Raised Concerns About Hunter Biden On Ukraine Energy Board In 2015, Was Rebuffed By Joe Biden Aide”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (05f22b)

  2. furthermore,

    Sondland Testifies: No Quid Pro Quo in Ukraine Call, Trump Policy. “I knew that a public embrace of anti-corruption reforms by Ukraine was one of the pre-conditions for securing a White House meeting with President Zelensky. My view was, and has always been, that such Western reforms are consistent with U.S. support for rule of law in Ukraine going back decades, under both Republican and Democrat administrations. Nothing about that request raised any red flags for me, Ambassador Volker, or Ambassador Taylor.”

    narciso (d1f714)

  3. Mr. Kent sounds like a fair-minded individual.

    Kent, who also testified about how Trump’s associates raised unfounded allegations about the former ambassador to Ukraine, is the first known example of a career diplomat who raised concerns internally in the Obama administration about Hunter Biden’s board position.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  4. and yet it went nowhere, isn’t it curious, and it’s taken a new regime to start to reopen the cases,

    narciso (d1f714)

  5. So the Post has decided Joe Biden the Candidate isn’t up to snuff… the first steps to throwing him under the Greyhound are now complete…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  6. The article talks about Hunter Biden, who served on the board of Burisma Holdings. The blog post title refers to Beau Biden (who died in May 2015).

    Observer (af8abd)

  7. of course they followed the federalist, the times had a huge…pillow,

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. 7… Dana was just showing us how easily editing errors are committed.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  9. George Kent, a deputy assistant secretary of state, testified Tuesday that he worried that Hunter Biden’s position at the firm Burisma Holdings would complicate efforts by U.S. diplomats to convey to Ukrainian officials the importance of avoiding conflicts of interest, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of confidentiality rules surrounding the deposition.

    Kent said he had concerns that Ukrainian officials would view Hunter Biden as a conduit for currying influence with his father, said the people. But when Kent raised the issue with Biden’s office, he was told the then-vice president didn’t have the “bandwidth” to deal with the issue involving his son as his other son, Beau, was battling cancer, said the people familiar with his testimony.

    So, nothing about corruption, but it sets a bad precedent for children of elected officials to do business in foreign lands because the companies may want to curry favor with daddy/mummy. Astute analysis, no duh, as my 13 year old says. It’s not illegal, but it’s a bad look.

    Children of a senior elected official should probably avoid being involved where optically it might be inferred that they’d profit from their parent being in office…right…right?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  10. privat bank owned burisma, and they also lost billions of tax payer dollars in 2016, just a coincidence, by contrast Robert mueller spent 2 1/2 years investigating one meeting with fusion’s delegations, re Kushner, no tax payer money involved, no followup meetings,

    narciso (d1f714)

  11. Interesting.

    1. Hunter’s work for Brusima was completely unethical. He was cashing in on access to his father the VP.

    2 We definitely shouldn’t elect Hunter Biden. But so far no one has shown reason to suspect Joe Biden did anything illegal. It does call Joe Biden’s judgment and ethics into question. Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s OK.

    3 Based on the quoted text Kent was saying he thought this would look bad to the Ukraine. Which I’m sure it did.

    4 This post has to be made up, because Erdogan’s lickspittles assure me the mainstream media never criticize the left.

    Time123 (80b471)

  12. privat bank owned burisma, and they also lost billions of tax payer dollars in 2016, just a coincidence, by contrast Robert mueller spent 2 1/2 years investigating one meeting with fusion’s delegations, re Kushner, no tax payer money involved, no followup meetings,

    What a completely dishonest characterization of the Meuller investigation. Don’t you have Turkish war crimes to justify on some other thread?

    Time123 (80b471)

  13. “Itinerary for a trip to Ukraine in August organized by the Atlantic Council think tank reveals that a staffer on Rep. Adam Schiff’s House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence held a meeting during the trip with acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor, now a key witness for Democrats pursuing impeachment.

    The Atlantic Council is funded by and works in partnership with Burisma, the natural gas company at the center of allegations regarding Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/17/document-adam-schiff-staffer-met-impeachment-witness-ukraine-trip/

    harkin (6776a3)

  14. another coincidence, like glenn simpson last year in aspen, what are the odds?

    narciso (d1f714)

  15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Council#Connections_and_funding

    The Atlantic Council is funded by and works in partnership with Burisma, the natural gas company at the center of allegations regarding Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.”

    Yes, Burisma is a funding member, one of more than 800, but they’re the largest right, oh, that’s Facebook, but they’re second right? Uh, no, that’s the UK government, but they’re 3rd…you can look it up yourself but they’re way down the list…with BP America, and Dentons, plus David McCormick and Dina Powell, you may remember her. So is an out of context fact a lie?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  16. @12 You shouldn’t listen to Erdogan’s lickspittles. They will lie and feed you propaganda.

    Also, see @6. The wind has shifted to Warren, or at least away from Biden.

    Frosty, Fp (f27e97)

  17. were you here when he examined the atlantic council funding matter:

    narciso (d1f714)

  18. So you’re linking to lie, justifying lying about one thing and using other lies that indirectly connect to unrelated things to lies that connect to other lies about, other lies.

    That’s kind of circular logic, but it’s on brand, consistency is the day shift motto.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  19. Youre saying the uk is a major player, not for these purposes, i know it interferes with the game of pinata

    narciso (d1f714)

  20. No, The Atlantic Council is funded by different members, the second largest is the UK. Are you unable to comprehend the Google Translate of English during this shift, or are you being actively obtuse?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  21. title question: should be Hunter not Beau?

    Patriot Dan (50e4f8)

  22. Dummkopf, call major hofstadler.

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. Ho-o-o-oGAN!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. Apparently some of the meetimgs were in monaco, like the minion of a bond villain would participate.

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. Apologies for putting up Beau Biden’s name in post title when it should be Hunter. Argh. I’m away from computer but if any other administrator can make the correction, I would appreciate it.

    Dana (710a80)

  26. Ah that was last year,

    narciso (d1f714)

  27. Narciso, your claim isn’t supported by your evidence.

    Time123 (80b471)

  28. Its back by a whole series of kleptocracies, a legion of doom.

    narciso (d1f714)

  29. got a link that supports that? Maybe one to a list of donors with amounts?

    Time123 (80b471)

  30. @9. ROFLMAO

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  31. ”This post has to be made up, because Erdogan’s lickspittles assure me the mainstream media never criticize the left.”
    Time123 (80b471) — 10/18/2019 @ 10:36 am

    Biden is to the left of Fox News, if that’s everyone you meant by mainstream media.

    Munroe (d6175a)

  32. @6. 220 volts through a 120 line; newspaper people are particularly sensitive to known plagiarists.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  33. Basic Biden:

    “Listen folks, here’s the deal: this is the United States of America!!!! Trump doesn’t want me to run against him because he knows I’ll beat him like a drum!”

    Snare, kettle or a spare oil drum from Hunter’s garage, Joe?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  34. from a year and a half ago,

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/did-biden-save-this-ukraine-firm-responsible-for-1-8b-in-missing-aid-his-son-is-on-the-board/

    although mollie hemingway was on this case five years ago,

    narciso (d1f714)

  35. Dana, the header of your post is wrong. “Beau” Biden is Joe Biden III, Joseph Robinette “Beau” Biden III,ther one who was Attorney generaslof Delaware, the one who died.

    We’re now talking about only one son and Joe Biden maybe mixed people up some during the debate.
    `
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/15/october-democratic-debate-transcript

    COOPER: Hold on, sorry, just to follow up. Mr. Vice President, as you said, your son, Hunter, today gave an interview, admitted that he made a mistake and showed poor judgement by serving on that board in Ukraine. Did you make a mistake by letting him? You were the point person on Ukraine at the time. You can answer.

    BIDEN: Look, my son’s statement speaks for itself. I did my job. I never discussed a single thing with my son about anything having do with Ukraine. No one has indicated I have. We’ve always kept everything separate. Even when my son was the attorney general of the state of Delaware, we never discussed anything, so there would be no potential conflict.

    That was a different son.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Biden

    Hunter Biden is the black sheep.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  36. Now Joe Biden has tendency to leave out important things from his sentences.

    Look at this one:

    BURNETT: Vice President Biden, you have warned against demonizing rich people. Do you believe that Senator Sanders and Senator Warren’s wealth tax plans do that?

    BIDEN: No, look, demonizing wealth — what I talked about is how you get things done. And the way to get things done is take a look at the tax code right now. The idea — we have to start rewarding work, not just wealth. I would eliminate the capital gains tax — I would raise the capital gains tax to the highest rate, of 39.5 percent.

    By eliminate he doesn’t mean reduce it to 0% – he means eliminate the separate treatment of capital gains in the tax code.

    Or there’s this:

    My son made a judgment. I’m proud of the judgement he made. I’m proud of what he had to say. And let’s focus on this. The fact of the matter is that this is about Trump’s corruption. That’s what we should be focusing on.

    The first judgement refers to the “poor judgement” in serving on that board (and other things) in Ukraine – the second judgement mlost likely refers to Hunter Biden’s statement that if his father was elected president, he would not serve on any foreign boards.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  37. Sammy Finkelman,

    That was pointed out to me earlier. It has been corrected.

    Dana (710a80)

  38. Incidentally, Biden’s praise of his son reminds me of Donald Trump’s praise of son Donald J. Trump Jr for his initial statement on the meeting wtth the Russians at the beginning of June 2016 in Trump Tower, which Donald Trump had a hand in editing.

    Kind of like a sockpuppet.

    Joe Biden also claims his son wrote that himself, like donald Trump did.

    And I don’t know what the truth is.

    For me, it’s impossibe to believe that there was not some communication of some kind between the father and the son about that Hunter Biden statement, perhaps through or by an intermediary.

    He didn’t have to talk about his business when it was happening – it’squoite possible that Joe Biden might have avoided talking about his son’s business dealings, feeling that’s enough. After all isn’t that like ac blind trust?

    So maybe on;y one time after thsi came up,he asked his son Hunter, “Are you sure you know waht you are doing?”

    And Hunter Biden says he sais yes.

    That’s not discussing his business dealings.

    But now, during a political campaign – there was no contact? But Joe Biden praises what his son said. that is so reminiscent of Donald Trump with regard to Donald J. Trump Jr statement on meeting in Trump Tower (or was the praiew for his releasing the e-mailchain?)

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  39. from the earlier link,

    The Biden family’s dealings with this Ukrainian company involved getting one of the country’s most notorious mob bankers, Ihor Kolomoisky, off the U.S. government visa ban list. Under Biden’s leadership, $3 billion in aid went to Ukraine, and his son’s company was implicated in the disappearance of $1.8 billion of that money.

    Actually beck, had a pretty comprehensive special on this, naming all the players some two weeks ago,

    narciso (d1f714)

  40. they cleaned up that wiki, pretty neatly sammeh, the talk sections tells you what they left out,

    narciso (d1f714)

  41. look what they left out,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hunter_Biden

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. Who was footing the bills for Rudytooty’s travel budget, why were all these folks convincing Cheeto jeezus to do these silly fake conspiracy theories? Oh, pure graft, that’s what, from Solomon, to Rudytooty, and Trump’s favorite Fox News lawyers, were being paid to construct them to help Dmitry Firtash avoid going to prison in the US, and losing his already paid bail of $175M, just for bail. Of course, it has the added benefit of dirtying up Trump’s potential opponent in 2020 as well.

    That it’s unethical and illegal, who cares, it’s the Trump admin, so ethics don’t matter, gotta own the libs, or something.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  43. The Ukrainian investigations that Trump wanted totake place may take place anyway:

    (a week ago)

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-will-get-the-truth-on-corruption-11570745983

    Ukraine Will Get the Truth on Corruption

    Our alliance with the U.S. depends on answering questions about the Bidens and election interference.

    By Valentyn Nalyvaichenko [ member of the Ukrainian Parliament who served as head of the Security Service of Ukraine from 2006-10 and 2014-15.]

    Oct. 10, 2019 6:19 pm ET

    …Serious allegations have been made in the U.S. and Ukraine, including that Ukrainian government officials and organizations assisted Hillary Clinton’s campaign in 2016 and that Burisma, a major Ukrainian gas company, hired Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s son, for cynical purposes. Regardless of the implications of these charges within American politics, Ukraine has a responsibility to investigate them completely and transparently.

    First, as I have insisted for more than two years, we must resolve the allegation that Ukrainian officials interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. If we find that Ukrainian laws were broken, the perpetrators here must be prosecuted swiftly, to the fullest extent of the law.

    Second, Ukraine must resolve the allegations regarding Burisma. As the former head of the Security Service of Ukraine, our version of the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation, I know there are many accusations of corruption against this company.

    It isn’t clear whether Ukrainian officials meddled in the American election, but Parliament must find out. We also do not know if Hunter Biden was complicit in Burisma’s alleged corruption, or why he was appointed to the board of a Ukrainian company. The allegation that Burisma arranged its relationship to the younger Mr. Biden by donating to a U.S. think tank is merely a small part of the larger question about its activities.

    There is no way to know if crimes were committed unless the Ukrainian government investigates all allegations properly and transparently. It is imperative for our country and our place in global society that corruption at the top is dealt with seriously, with no one placed above the law.

    That is why I am proposing that all parties in the new Ukrainian Parliament, which took office a month ago, join in an investigation to discover exactly what took place with Burisma and the 2016 U.S. elections.

    In Ukraine, members of our national parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, are obliged to pursue the truth vigorously in these matters….

    See also:

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ukrainian-leader-zelensky-will-happily-investigate-pro-clinton-interference-87561

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Thursday that he would “happily” have prosecutors look into whether the Ukrainian government meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign to help former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    Zelensky also said during a six-hour interview in Kiev, Ukraine, that there was “no blackmail” involved in a July 25 phone call he had with President Donald Trump that is now at the center of House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  44. ”Who was footing the bills for Rudytooty’s travel budget, why were all these folks convincing Cheeto jeezus to do these silly fake conspiracy theories?“
    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 10/18/2019 @ 2:29 pm

    How about we go in chronological order? Who was footing the bills for digging up dirt on Trump and all those fake conspiracy theories? Why wasn’t anyone interested until now?

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/17/john-durham-ag-barrs-special-russia-investigator-o/

    Munroe (53beca)

  45. yes we’re supposed to believe dnc and perkins and coie’s connections to crowdstrike and fusion gps, that set this whole narrative together Is irrelevant, same with mifsud, who had western issued devices, halper, who was paid from dia proprietaries, downer who worked for an MI6 private contractor with Chinese ties,

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. OT, Klink but tOSU faithful deep on my train on the way to Evanston to face NU tonight. Go Bucks!!!

    urbanleftbehind (8491d1)

  47. The entire political world is foaming at the mouth:

    Aaron Blake
    @AaronBlake
    So in this one interview, Clinton:

    1) Suggested Putin has kompromat on Trump

    2) Wagered that Russians will back Tulsi Gabbard third-party

    3) Said Jill Stein is a “Russian asset”

    https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1185197008950304769
    __ _

    Tulsi Gabbard
    @TulsiGabbard
    Great! Thank you
    @HillaryClinton
    . You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain….

    _

    harkin (6776a3)

  48. every agency of a major power, had access to her emails, except us, so projection is drive in theatre intensity,

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. Hillary takes a dump in the party’s punch bowl.

    Has anybody turned her over and checked the expiration date??? From over 50 years ago:

    “There’s a very strange conservative strain that goes through a lot of the New Left, in collegiate protests that I find very intriguing because it harks back to a lot of the old virtues, to the fulfillment of original ideas.” – Hillary Rodham, Wellesley College, excerpt from Life Magazine, June 20, 1969

    Don’t you have some cookies to bake or a bra to burn, dear?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  50. If we are going in chronological order, Trump could have ordered the DOJ to follow American and international treaties, laws and procedures to thoroughly investigate the Bidens and Ukraine. Or he could have appointed a special prosecutor to investigate, and thus undermine claims of any political or personal motive.

    Alternatively, Trump could have withheld American aid to pressure the Ukrainians for all the dirt they could find on the Bidens in order to help his reelection campaign.

    We know which way Trump decided to go, don’t we?

    DRJ (15874d)

  51. ”We know which way Trump decided to go, don’t we?”
    DRJ (15874d) — 10/18/2019 @ 3:33 pm

    Yes. Neither.

    Munroe (53beca)

  52. well no, you see the last two set of prosecutors had been released for investigating anything related to burisma, the former administration, some of whom were arrested as recently as just this week, hladecky as deputy defense minister?? and deputy economics minister, grossman, whose wiki page has him meeting with john Kerry, either as secretary of state or some other capacity, now peter Schweitzer did the initial investigations, Solomon followed up, vogel, covered half of the story with a pillow, we’ve seem how powerful blue star strategies was on behalf of burisma, and who they are connected to, but all we’ve talked about for three years is orange man bad!

    narciso (d1f714)

  53. but the daily beast, the times and the post, comes in with a Zamboni, a year later to bury any connections to biden, to the atlantic council, to the company, the same people who have screaming like Donald Sutherland, Russia Russia, with no real delivery, hide massive corruption at a state level abetted by the international community. of course if the supposed ‘whistleblower’ is any indication, the intelligence community seems blind as a mole, well considering what they have been fixated on, master criminal, carter page, we can see why,

    narciso (d1f714)

  54. so those outlets get fed scraps from fusion and dan jones Wurlitzer, like a perpetual smoke machine financed with 50 million in silicon valley money, anyone who gets in the way, nunes, whittaker most recently barr gets slimed with innuendo, no accusation is too crazy, Chabad is part of putin’s network, the ones caught by trevor potters lawfare operation were trying to contact the rabbi of kiev, I don’t know what evil that was about, a decorated naval academy grad, who helped nab two Russian spies is actually targeted because a decade ago, he properly brought Gazprom, to market, now because the head of rosneft thought himself so clever, his deal turned into a dumpster fire, with the Chinese dropping their share, and other partners running for the hills,

    narciso (d1f714)

  55. but it’s curious, ukraines top oligarch certainly bribe biden, chip in more then their share toward Hillary, including chalupa, the Ukrainian party girl on pelosis staff, and they still have to talk to the hand, the guy who they chose poorly not to back has come through, which part is the conspiracy?

    narciso (d1f714)

  56. That loud, wailing “NOOOO!” you just heard was from all those true-believing Trump loyalists, expressing their anguish at not being able to “lock ‘er up”.

    A multiyear State Department probe of emails that were sent to former secretary of state Hillary Clinton’s private computer server concluded there was no systemic or deliberate mishandling of classified information by department employees, according to a report submitted to Congress this month.
    […]
    In the end, State Department investigators found 38 current or former employees “culpable” of violating security procedures — none involving material that had been marked classified — in a review of roughly 33,000 emails that had been sent to or from the personal computer system Clinton used.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  57. Imagine that being your job for years. Reading Hillary’s rude emails. What a crazy world.

    Also, I’m glad they investigated her and sincerely doubt there wasn’t serious misconduct.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  58. 600 times is not systemic, three times lost saucier his clearance, thats the jokrke of our justice system.

    narciso (d1f714)

  59. That loud, wailing “YESSSSS!!!” you heard late on Nov 8, 2016 was from all those true-believing Americans, expressing their joy that a constitutional election was able to “lock ‘er out”.

    harkin (6776a3)

  60. Yes. Neither.

    Willful ignorance is still ignorance. Trump said he did it, their call “transcript” showed it, all the Ambassadors said he did it, Rudytooty said he did it, the CoS said he did it, “get over it”.

    Why don’t you believe Trump and his admin when they tell you they did it?

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  61. That loud, wailing “YESSSSS!!!” you heard late on Nov 8, 2016 was from all those true-believing Americans, expressing their joy that a constitutional election was able to “lock ‘er out”.

    And then…since Hillary lost, everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  62. So you have william taylor coordinating his testimony two months before with schiff, who had ties to the’whistleblower’ and his atty.

    narciso (d1f714)

  63. Paul Montagu (00daa1) — 10/18/2019 @ 5:11 pm

    Buried in the very last paragraph of your link, Paul:

    The review did not encompass a separate collection of emails that Clinton’s lawyers withheld from the State Department and that she later destroyed, saying they were private and did not pertain to government business — a determination that was not verified by State Department officials.

    Munroe (53beca)

  64. Obstruction of justice, what doesnt that constitute exactly.

    narciso (d1f714)

  65. I’m not sure I’m following this. Paul, do you believe that Hillary did nothing wrong? I don’t think I have seen any regular here defend her actions.

    BuDuh (7e7cfb)

  66. how about rudy giuliani’s son who is being paid by the taxpayers to play golf with trump?

    nk (dbc370)

  67. It really is a strange thing to spike the football over.

    BuDuh (7e7cfb)

  68. Clearly she didnt they immunized all her aides, they slapped weiner (phrasing) on the wrist.

    narciso (d1f714)

  69. Ah yes castro apologist padgett, time magazine finally stopped paying him.

    narciso (d1f714)

  70. There. is. no. evidence. of. any. of. your. conspiracies. narciso.

    It’s just a lie you’ve fallen for. It’s a smoke screen. It’s the distraction to keep us from looking at the stuff going on right in front of our faces. It’s been investigated all the heck and there have been 0. 0. 0. indictments for anything you theorize about. People are lying to you and you are passing those lies along. I’m sorry you’ve backed an inept bumhat, but that is the reality and no amount of “Look! Over there!!” is going to change that.

    Nic (896fdf)

  71. They had to invent collusion allegations though fusion gps to get us to this ridiculous point, actual violations of statutes are ignored.

    narciso (d1f714)

  72. I remember this jackass, from the elian rendition that greg craig and eric holder were a part of, craig went on to fix cases in the ukraine, holder lie for purdue pharmaceuticals and stir up trouble south of the border

    narciso (d1f714)

  73. This was pointed out earlier the round robin way of payment to hunter and devon:

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6003585-Rosemont-Seneca-Bohai-Bank-Records-Listing.html

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. Ah yes castro apologist padgett, time magazine finally stopped paying him.

    I notice you’re are insulting him, but you’re not saying he’s wrong.

    They had to invent collusion allegations though fusion gps to get us to this ridiculous point, actual violations of statutes are ignored.

    They didn’t need fusion. Trump did business with members of Putin’s regime. That was all the reason anyone in the IC needed to check him out. If they thought they needed the dossier charade you think happened, then they are a bunch of idiots.

    Kishnevi (c41ca4)

  75. Rep Nunnes and all the rest of the Intelligence committee have called out Schiffs corruption. Documents that should be available for all committee members are not.

    …it has come to our attention that the Majority is not uploading (or providing physical copies of) certain Committee documents related to your ‘impeachment inquiry’ to its document repository, thus withholding the existence of such documents from the Minority.”

    More of the letter to Schiff points out that since he no longer has investigating the whistle gossiper, nor anything else that touches the Intelligence Community, Schiff and the Intelligence committee no long have jurisdiction, as defined by house rules.

    iowan2 (9c8856)

  76. Because oadgetts is a dodge how about the sun cartel its the whole top ataff of the venezuelan army and they pay derwick partners to defame dissidents like halvorsen much like fusion gps did. Who did he do business with?

    narciso (d1f714)

  77. A meeting that lasted 15 minutea that went nowhere, manafort he was hired for a job, wrangling delegates.

    narciso (d1f714)

  78. They destroyed 14 devices, if you destroyec one phone with subpoenaed material how long would you stay out of jail, hours

    narciso (d1f714)

  79. narciso (d1f714) — 10/18/2019 @ 6:24 pm

    Since you attack the messenger but not the message, you obviously think he’s telling the truth.

    narciso (d1f714) — 10/18/2019 @ 6:26 pm
    I was talking about Trump’s dealings before he was a candidate. They may have been small beer to Putin, but they were a big deal to Trump.

    Kishnevi (c41ca4)

  80. Munroe 58,

    At least we agree on half of my comment!

    DRJ (15874d)

  81. One of the main controversies stemming from Clinton’s emails was how Paul Combetta, the tech aide who administered the server, deleted 33,000 emails despite a congressional order to preserve them. The FBI says it was only able to recover about 5,000 of the emails scrubbed by Combetta, and they were released in tranches up until earlier this year as part of a lawsuit brought by Judicial Watch. Clinton has said she “never received nor sent any material that was marked classified,” but the FBI found 110 emails did contain classified information.“

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/state-department-finds-violations-by-38-people-in-clinton-emails-review
    _

    harkin (6776a3)

  82. Did business years ago, never came to anything, the clintons had the full box of chocolates assortment, but emolements dont apply why is that?

    narciso (d1f714)

  83. Every single time, there is either a cover up or minimizimg about what democrats do, put then there is the scream about trump, about anything even unverified statements

    narciso (d1f714)

  84. Years ago, if you leave out Miss Universe in Moscow, the three years spent on Trump Tower Moscow and all the condos he sold to rich Russians….

    Kishnevi (c41ca4)

  85. Yes one year he was there, the thi tendril that steele dangled his report from.

    narciso (d1f714)

  86. Actually he was there for about 10 years, if you don’t count his visits in the 1980s and 1990s
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Russia

    That’s why I don’t take you seriously anymore, narciso. You are perfectly fine with Trump’s self dealing and abuses of office, which takes away any credibility you have when you complain about corruption by nonTrump people.

    Kishnevi (c41ca4)

  87. Whoever voted for this guy, please take ownership

    https://twitter.com/EvanMcMullin/status/1185355016393166849

    steveg (354706)

  88. harkin (6776a3) — 10/18/2019 @ 5:23 pm

    Okay, harkin. That was funny.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  89. Buried in the very last paragraph of your link, Paul:

    I suppose you gotta to what you can, Munroe, but it’ll be dry hump.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  90. That’s unlike you, narciso. You can’t even come up with a single fact to contradict what Padgett said in that op-ed. So what he said must be true.

    Kishnevi (c41ca4)

  91. Paul, do you believe that Hillary did nothing wrong?

    I believe that Comey should have indicted Hillary, but he let her slide by inventing the legal concept that she didn’t intend to do anything illegal, which is a bullsh*t concept because US military personnel have been jailed for less. What the Comey did confirm was that she told at least ten lies about her home-brewed server.
    http://www.theforvm *dot* org/emailgate-megathread#comment-351595
    But it’s over. It’s been adjudicated. What’s more, Hillary lost, and she lost in part because of the pathetic way she handled her email problem.
    I understand that a number of adoring Trump superfans just can’t let it go, but they should let it go. They’ve got bigger things to worry about, like whether Trump will still be president seven months from now.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  92. I understand that a number of adoring Trump superfans just can’t let it go,

    Odd thing to say when you are the one who brought it up. Apparently to gloat.

    Bizarre.

    BuDuh (7e7cfb)

  93. It’s front-page news, BuDuh. Get over it.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  94. Not ten times, 600 times, of course all the reporters that vetted their copy before they wrote a single wird will excuse her, and they hate assange for revealing that dirty bargain

    narciso (d1f714)

  95. The journolist team of acribbling chimps is quite useless, where ia the accountability?

    narciso (d1f714)

  96. rasping geezer queen
    yes your time is gonna come
    justice will be served

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  97. Since it embarrassing to you, I will drop it. I’m sorry you are so obsessed with gloating about a Hillary victory.

    BuDuh (7e7cfb)

  98. In the same breath, they darkly mutter about pompeo who actually has insight i. These matters done something wrong.

    narciso (d1f714)

  99. Since it embarrassing to you, I will drop it.

    You should drop it, BuDuh, because mindreading is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice. You’re better off asking bumper-stickery slogan questions, but only slightly better off.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  100. That loud, wailing “NOOOO!” you just heard was from all those true-believing Trump loyalists, expressing their anguish at not being able to “lock ‘er up”.

    …is not to be misread as gloating because that is a dishonest way to read it.

    LOL

    BuDuh (7e7cfb)

  101. You have no clue about what real russian influence does to a people, not these idiotic memes you tout so reverrently firing squads bloc committees ration cards, all justified by ideology,

    narciso (d1f714)

  102. The country where mcmullin lived for a tim, was drowning in a corrupt regime run by ex labor leaders and guerillas,

    narciso (d1f714)

  103. It’s not “gloating”, it’s insulting the likes of you. That clear enough?

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  104. The only headline close to the truth, the rest is passive voice

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/18/hillary-clinton-violations-state-department-emails/

    narciso (d1f714)

  105. 116… now, now. There’s no call for that.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  106. First Hillary sets her sights on Ms. Gabbard, and then it’s Costco. When will Ms. Clinton’s madness stop!

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  107. Just two days ago Trump confirmed publicly that we have fifty (50) (that’s the fingers of five people) nuclear bombs in Turkey and where they are. What was in Hillary’s emails that’s more secret than that? The biggest security risk in America is Trump, and has been since November 8, 2106.

    nk (dbc370)

  108. Oh i forget your soft on commies, they didnt do anything to you.

    narciso (d1f714)

  109. Who did vote for this Evan McMuffin guy anyway?

    @EvanMcMullin
    I believe it’s true. Tulsi Gabbard is with the Russians and the Russians are with Tulsi Gabbard. She confirms it every time she opens her mouth.

    @hale_razor
    Replying to
    @EvanMcMullin
    Your bizarre behavior capped by believing a Clinton baseless smear against a veteran makes one question whether you were a Hillary asset calculated to split the GOP vote and hand her the election.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  110. Where would rick wilsons meal ticket be otherwise, hes like fatter olbermann

    narciso (d1f714)

  111. That Tulsi story is not funny. Google was the first to detect funny business going on with the Honolulu honey’s donations website. Remember? She complained bout it — not the funny business but Google checking it out. There is something going on besides Hillary wanting herself in the news, even if it’s most likely the Russians (not excluding other furriners neither) just plain f***ing with our elections, just creating distrust and chaos.

    nk (dbc370)

  112. Shirley you cant be serious,

    narciso (d1f714)

  113. I have no doubt that Putin would love another Jill Stein to help reelect his butt-boy, but he’ll settle for half the country thinking that the election was illegitimate. Why should he be the only one under that cloud?

    nk (dbc370)

  114. narciso, the Sytnyk story was already debunked over a week ago. You’re regurgitating both OldNews and FakeNews.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  115. 116… now, now. There’s no call for that.

    Maybe, but you and BuDuh have bigger things to worry about than trying to stick it to Hillary, such as that Trump is going to get impeached before Christmas, and you don’t have the first clue how far he’ll go in responding.
    I’m positive that he’ll commit at least one more impeachable offense before Thanksgiving, which sill only add to his downfall. He’s the opposite of a “stable genious”, he’s an unstable retard who is going to drag this GOP further downward. The debacle in Syrian Kurdistan is but the latest example.

    Paul Montagu (00daa1)

  116. Now thats what the dnc see 2000, 2004, 2016, but they didnt have any problems in 2006 2008 2012 or 2018, the candidates were just that good, ask david brooks

    narciso (d1f714)

  117. Now privat bank collapsing was kind of like lehman brothers,

    narciso (d1f714)

  118. Or maybe Tulsi spawned the idea herself of Hillary being the ultimate anti-endorsement…she probably learned a little about how Taylor Swift did Phil Bredesen more harm than good, so she proactively turned the tables. And then what if the Dems call bluff and don’t nominate a candidate?

    urbanleftbehind (8491d1)

  119. Well she was on team doc brown, from the getgo, bds green nude eel, mostly prochoice but not full moloch.

    narciso (d1f714)

  120. Plouffe worked for ntn which distributes zte gear in africa, merrill ran interferencs for weinstein.

    narciso (d1f714)

  121. Well we’re waiting out the broken down homely gimp Senate version of Gabbard until ’22…but there will likely be no Luke Skywalker in the Land of Stinkin.

    urbanleftbehind (8491d1)

  122. Well except for treating veterans like dirt and being in contact with hopkinson, youre too harsh.

    narciso (d1f714)

  123. In other news, Tulsi G and Jill Stein are Russian Assets. That Mr. Putin really gets around – doesn’t he?

    rcocean (1a839e)

  124. He’s a strong leader. He has control of his country.

    nk (dbc370)

  125. So, let’s see if my slow brain can follow this. Trump decides that his own Doral Club is the only qualified resort to host a G-7 Summit making him millions and garnering tremendous publicity. Directly in conflict with the Constitution. While simultaneously trying to get foreign governments to investigate his opponent’s family for enriching themselves. And refusing to cooperate with investigations into these affairs.

    Three Dimensional Crookedness.

    noel (f22371)

  126. Then there is Tulsi Gabbard. I forced myself to watch that debate and when she started spewing Putin/Trump talking points, I said: “What the hell is that?”

    It was so obvious.

    noel (f22371)

  127. @116

    the conclusion of the Trump Administration is

    Investigators said there was “no persuasive evidence” of “systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information.”

    good to know.

    Time123 (80b471)

  128. We’ve reached Oprah level with the russia stuff. You’re a Russian asset and you’re a Russian asset, now everyone check under your seats for a special prize.

    I was thinking this new round of assertions without evidence would tend to discredit the idea but it doesn’t seem to work that way.

    Frosty, Fp (97b86f)

  129. no, because reid Hoffman, whose knee deep in the Epstein mess, who premiered in the alabama primary is involved and crowdstrike, which was reprimanded by the iss (british think tank) and fusion which works for Russian oligarchs, everything is subcontracted to the lowest bidder. burisma was represented by an allstar team of ex?? Clinton and Obama staffers, who still provide pillows,

    narciso (d1f714)

  130. now the heart of the eu was designed by an ex?? Italian communist, aldo Spinelli, hence their desire to crush any independence movement,

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/19/brexit-deal-latest-news-super-saturday-vote-boris-johnson-result/

    narciso (d1f714)

  131. Hillary has always been sick in the head. And I mean as long as we’ve known her. She was just good at concealing it and camouflaging it as ordinary nastiness. Now she’s footloose, she’s gonna cut loose.

    It still does not negate the absolute beyond any doubt moral certainty that Putin is going to f*** with the election.

    nk (dbc370)

  132. no she’s a nasty grifter, she tried to take away your healthcare the first time, but they hadn’t bought off the insurance company, yet, nurse fletcher, Lucille bluth, take your pick, the dems would love warren, Bernie, major howdy, but after a while it wouldn’t be sporting,

    narciso (d1f714)

  133. Is that a butch Cuomo niece that posed for that billboard? http://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/politics/andrew-cuomo-double-jeopardy-law/index.html

    urbanleftbehind (52b026)

  134. it’s like the used gina carano, as the template, most recently in Deadpool,

    narciso (d1f714)

  135. Good lord, Carano had to be dubbed in her own language in her one leading vehicle, was it because she couldn’t act or was too meatball like the rival femme protagonists in Saturday Nigth Fever?

    urbanleftbehind (52b026)

  136. the sort of spy thriller, haywire, which is convoluted like all sodebergh projects, she’s not very expressive,

    narciso (d1f714)

  137. good grief, stable people all around,

    https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/10/19/billboard-for-athletic-gear-in-times-square-shows-trump-being-hog-tied/

    Heh! Trump has probably paid for something like that to be done to him for real. More than once in his life. And not necessarily always by a girl.

    nk (dbc370)

  138. I never read the actual report about the Russian hookers, so I don’t know all the … ahem … alleged details.

    nk (dbc370)

  139. no but brett mcguirk had special treatment on the roof of the Baghdad embassy, and it was an open secret, according to pete van buren,

    narciso (d1f714)

  140. “State Dept. Official Raised Concerns About Hunter Biden On Ukraine Energy Board In 2015, Was Rebuffed By Joe Biden Aid

    Per the Washington Post”

    Stopped reading right there – we all know WaPo is Fake News in bed with the DNC and the truth is likely to be nearer the exact opposite of anything they say than whatever it is they actually say. How you NeverTrumpers keep getting sucked into that cesspit of lies is beyond me, but I’m sure you won’t find a single Trump supporter agreeing with anything this article says.

    Jerryskids (702a61)

  141. Very funny, the federalist had the story first, much like they investigated burisma first, before they brought the zamboni.

    narciso (7d5b61)

  142. The Washington Post runs stories after somebody else more obscure has and makes no reference to them, unlike all other newspapers. Other newspapers will gove credit (“first reporteed by”)

    Sometimes it is negative aaginst someone they support. They can look neutral that way. Because for many people, it’s the fiorst they heard of it.

    Sammy Finkelman (0d0ca8)

  143. The interesting thing about Bill Taylor’s testimony is that Gordon Sundland was guessing what it would take to release the Ukrainian aid money.

    Donald trump was sour in general about sending aid money to Ukraine. He set no conditions. The conditions seem to have been dreamed up by Mulvaney.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)


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