Thursday Evening Open Thread
[guest post by JVW]
Baseball, Trump, Russia, Rudy, Joker, Lizzo, Trump, Ukraine, Syria, Trump, Kurds, NBA, Trump. Have at it.
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– JVW
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JVW (54fd0b) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:22 pmHere we go:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-biden-worked-with-whistleblower-when-he-was-vice-president-officials-reveal?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:34 pmPaul’s been waiting for this all day. He’d better leave a nice tip.
Munroe (53beca) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:36 pmIt looks like Trump was channeling Schlicter when he complained that the Kurds didn’t storm the beaches of Normandy with us, so therefore it was okay to betray them.
Paul Montagu (88b43e) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:37 pmEven though they’re stateless, some did join the Allied forces in WWII, which is better than much of the Arab world. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Iraqi PM sided with Hitler.
Trump gave Turkey permission to slaughter the Kurds.
It’s that simple and no number of lies or obfuscation will change it.
nk (dbc370) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:45 pmMore confirmation that Trump’s call was far from “perfect”. They were worried that it was going to be trainwreck conversation, and it turned out to be a trainwreck conversation.
Paul Montagu (88b43e) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:48 pmThe reason he did it is because he is a dickless sissy-boy who can only badmouth people on Twitter and TV. Like all pervy poofters who were almost certainly buggered by Roy Cohn he has no iron in his bones. He cannot stand up to real leaders, not even little tinpots from Third World sh!tholes like Erdogan and Kim Jong Un.
nk (dbc370) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:53 pm”The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a “professional” tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.
Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only “in the executive branch.” The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he “was detailed to the National Security Council at one point.”
Michael Atkinson, the Intelligence Community’s inspector general, told members of Congress that the whistleblower had a “professional tie” to a 2020 Democratic candidate. He had written earlier that while the whistleblower’s complaint was credible, he had shown “some indicia of an arguable political bias … in favor of a rival political candidate.”
A retired CIA officer told the Washington Examiner, “From everything we know about the whistleblower and his work in the executive branch then, there is absolutely no doubt he would have been working with Biden when he was vice president.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/joe-biden-worked-with-whistleblower-when-he-was-vice-president-officials-reveal
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:54 pmSorry, narciso, I hadn’t seen your post #2.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:57 pmI had my suspicions, seeing as no heavy weapons went to ukraine in those three years, how good was his advice
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:00 pmThe other thing about treacherous pervy poofter boys like Trump is that 1) they’re stupid and 2) they actually prefer doing things the crooked way instead of the right way. Since 1977, we have had a law called the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act which Roy Cohn’s slicked-up boy could have invoked and asked his personal butt gerbil, AG Barr, to investigate the Bidens under.
nk (dbc370) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:04 pmSchiff is either being treated for Graves’ disease, or he’s on that damned Adderall crap.
Or both. And my heart goes out to him. No one should be that fvcked up.
Watching Trump giving his version of the Strzok – Page texts… funny stuff!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:13 pmLike the extortion exercise on behalf of burisma,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:14 pmWhat is this, 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188
Nic (896fdf) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:14 pmLike the he guy or not, the man connects with an audience, really like no one else, at least in the political world.
Another reason why Democrats are desperate to take him down.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:28 pmLike the guy or not…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:28 pmYes the guy raised by indonesian house boy and misogynist black staliniat, was really wwell adjusted,…to hate everything about this country.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:29 pmWatching Trump giving his version of the Strzok – Page texts… funny stuff!
mg (8cbc69) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:31 pmIndeed.
“And he [Biden] was only a good Vice President because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama’s ass.”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:31 pmBtw deutsche bank couldnt find any of those documents maddow was promised wefe there
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:31 pmSome people lack a sense of humor when it comes from men that work.
mg (8cbc69) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:33 pmContext was first talking about Hunter Biden…
“And your father was never considered smart. He was never considered a good senator. And he [Biden] was only a good Vice President because he understood how to kiss Barack Obama’s ass.”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:34 pmTonight’s rally winners:
Request for “Where’s Hunter?” T-shirts and a new rally cry…
“Call me Donald.”
What a showman.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:35 pmAnd liquor bottles are being drained dry by frustrated Democrats and their sympathizers all over the land right now…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:37 pm@18. That was a pretty hilarious bit.
Ever the showman.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:37 pmMore brain drain at NR. That said, I’m not seeing how their $1,500 annual subscription is going to work for them.
Paul Montagu (88b43e) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:39 pm21… mg, this is good TV. Absolutely hilarious… dissing Mueller now… about how Mueller and his gang destroyed people and how the media was behind every step.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:43 pmMaybe they could do one article a day,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:44 pm@15. Yep. He makes it fun– and makes them part of the act.
Cruz nor Jeb nor Lil’Marco nor any the of the weenies had the knack. It’s really quite a gift.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:45 pm“And we have to promise them no more than 16 more years… just kidding… now they’ll write HE WANTS 16 more years!!!”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:46 pm@18. That was a pretty hilarious bit.
Ever the showman.
That’s all the clown is good for. Putting on a show. Oompa-oompa-oompa-di-do.
nk (dbc370) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:46 pm@26. Rats; sinking ship; Reaganomics.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:47 pmI know it only happened nine years, and we keep finding weapons from that op
https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/09/fast-and-furious-a-shocking-update-podcast/
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:47 pmLets go back to the days of ‘funenploymen’ shall we.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:48 pmNow he’s talking about ill hen Omar…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:50 pmWho filed her divorce for oaguaguo, doesnt every body.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:52 pm@33 The Rs had the house and Senate and then the Presidency as well for year and didn’t do anything about it. Maybe you should stop believing them when they say something is a big deal.
Nic (896fdf) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:53 pm“How do you have such a person representing you in Minnesota, I’m very angry at you people right now!”
The audience laughs…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:54 pm“GO home to mommy”
mg (8cbc69) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:55 pm29… certainly no Democrat for decades either.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:55 pm@31. You know what the difference between Seinfeld, Hogan’s Heroes, The World Series, The Voice, Hannity, Hardball, Daytona 500 and the U.S. government is to hard working Americans coming home from work, flicking on the TeeVee with a beer and a meal?
Nothing.
Because Americans don’t want to be governed; they wish to be entertained.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:56 pmYou think providing additional weapons to the sinaloa and zeta cartels are not a big deal, now probably the new generation crew has the bulk of them.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:58 pm@39. ‘Go home to Mommie– saw you on TV– the TV part of his quip is essential.
That was entertaining, too. He’s a showman, knows the audience and how to make them part of the act.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:58 pmMilton Berle did that, too.
This guy’s been riffing for an hour. Just amazing.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:00 pm@42 I think that the Rs who were screaming about it didn’t think it was a big deal, because they were all talk and very little action. They were just trying to gin up anger in you and people like you.
Was it objectively beyond what a normal major sting operation looks like? I don’t actually know, as I don’t know much about major sting operations. But I know the Rs in congress didn’t think it was, because they didn’t do anything.
Nic (896fdf) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:03 pm“Milton Berle did that, too.”
Uncle Miltie has one thing Trump doesn’t.
If you know what I mean.
Davethulhu (fe4242) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:07 pmWho did they catch, i know brian terry ended up, a bunch of weapons were recovered from guzman loeras crib, from an ambuah of the dea in 2013, from shootings all over mexico
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:08 pmhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-09/trump-urged-top-aide-to-help-giuliani-client-facing-doj-charges
Kishnevi (803f72) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:09 pmThe libyans caught the mastermind of the benghazi almost a year and a half ago, no major us paper mentioned it.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:10 pm“I used the word Hell – I got Hell – I used terrible language, it was so bad. But you gotta hear JayZ… the words he was using, he was using the F word all over the place. And then the next day they [the media] said I was using bad language, the word Hell is a terrible word [pauses, shakes his head]… these people [points out at the media] are sick… [audience laughs ]…”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:14 pm46… I don’t know. What has you all excited and nudge, nudging, Cthulhu?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:16 pm@46. Forrest Tucker, too.
Certainly put the ‘F’ in F-Troop.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:16 pm“Uncle Miltie has one thing Trump doesn’t.”
A headstone? A mausoleum?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:21 pmShirley:
https://www.economist.com/international/2019/02/09/electricity-does-not-change-poor-lives-as-much-as-was-thought
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:29 pmThe Orange Judas isn’t even worth talking about or thinking about anymore.
nk (dbc370) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:33 pmMaybe the economist would like to publishing with candles and oil lamps
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:34 pmNever trumpers must be taking preparation h about now.
mg (8cbc69) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:37 pm@47 ??
Nic (896fdf) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:37 pmWho did they catch in fast and furious a rsal scandal that cost lives,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:39 pmIts like john chisholms magic theory of political corruption up in madison.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:41 pmHe could have squeezed in a snippet or two about the illustrious atty gen of that stare.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:44 pm9, Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 5:57 pm
Yours is more detailed (it quotes from the article) and the URL is clearer (it doesn’t have the “what brought youu here” information.
It actually is less suspicious that the candidate he favors in Biden. It would be quote natural for him to be disturbed. Now the interesting question is: Did he think Trump was barking up the wrong tree, or the opposite?
Anyway, his whistleblower complaint was probably partially written by his Democratic lawyr, who also seems to have colected other clients, perhaps steered to him by client #1, and the very didea of transforming his complaint to the House Intelligence Committee into a whistleblower comlaint wss probably suggested by the committee.
Sammy Finkelman (1d7dd8) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:45 pmState, the one who beat his girlfriend to a bloody pulp.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:45 pmI am trying to figure out how the whistleblower complaint is supposed to be a complaint about someoe in the intelligence community, and apparently it’s like this:
There is an executive order calling for analysis of foreign interference in U.S. elections. Ukraine helping Trump would be foreign interference. Placing the record of the call in the highly secret/limited access system prevents the intelligence community from doing its job of evaluating foreign interference.
Sammy Finkelman (1d7dd8) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:46 pmA complaint of that kind, should be first hand.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:47 pmOt i know the joker movie has garnered plaudits, but that makes me more concern. The last two nolan films had a counterbalance this one does not.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:49 pmWBAI has been shut down by its management, Pacifica radio, without notice, on the grounds that its deficit woud=uld drag down their other stations. The employees went to court and obtaind an order basiically calling on Pacifica radio to restore the status quo ante but maagement acted quickly in disabling the station. The employyees are still lanning to restat broadcasting. Meanwhile :off the Hook” did its weekly Wednesday show and sent it out by other means.
Sammy Finkelman (1d7dd8) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:50 pmMeanwhile that pas de deux with the two nbc reporters and the dia employer?
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 7:54 pm10. narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 6:00 pm
Sammy Finkelman (1d7dd8) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:06 pmIn baseball, you can’t build a lead and then run out the clock. You must give your opponents the same opportunities to score that you had. This essential fairness is what makes it superior to other team sports.
Congratulations to the Nationals
John B Boddie (31ccf0) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:07 pm@15 or 16. Yep Trump’s got better political instincts than anybody I’ve ever seen, and a more devoted following. He will be a formidable foe. Assuming he is still here which I think he will be. 2020 is going to be insane.
JRH (52aed3) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:10 pmRemind me again, how much foreign economic assistance did they give and where did it end up?
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:11 pm@71. On the other hand his mouth looks like an open rectum.
JRH (52aed3) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:16 pm73… hey, we’ve got Matt Laurer commenting here!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:24 pmConsidering all the shinola hes had to put up with this week, this is a mild response.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:27 pmLike with Ukraine being the victim of Putin, the Kurds are the victims of Erdogan, noted…
here and
here and
here.
And one more from French.
But Trump sides with the bullies.
Paul Montagu (88b43e) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:32 pmWell for about three years, we did nothing with raqqua, the phnomh penh of modern times, (adjusting for scale) the base of operations for how many bombings and assasinations
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:40 pmThe french bombed some targets in 2015, the us finally got underway at the end of 2016.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:43 pmThese lefties in the streets outside the rally are sure shining examples of productive, forthright people with their hurling insults and God knows what at police and their horses, surrounding cars, trying to intimidate passersby… real upstanding people.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:45 pmRemind me again who the (redacted) called them the jayvees barely blinked at charlie hebdo, murmues a touch over bataclan and san bernardino.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:45 pm@59 It looks like they arrested and convicted around 25 people, but apparently there is a 471 page report you can read if you want more depth on the issue.
Nic (896fdf) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:47 pmUltimately thats why they punished general flynn, he told them a storm was coming, and they didnt even close the windows.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:48 pmMeanwhile, the Trumpist faithful are trying to make hay out of the shocking fact that a CIA analyst who was detailed to the White House “worked with” the vice president while he was there.
They don’t have much to say about the connections between Trump’s personal lawyer and the men arrested for conspiracy to funnel Russian money into the Trump campaign (though some fervent Trumpistas apparently believe it shows Trump single-handedly exposing corruption).
No comment on the United States siding with Russia against everyone else on the UN Security Council.
No answer to the many former military officers and other officials who speak of Trump’s erratic ways, his ignorance, his unwillingness to listen to advice, his belief that his own instincts are superior to anyone else’s knowledge about anything.
Anyone who speaks less than flatteringly about Trump must be vilified as an agent of the Deep State. And we’re supposed to marvel at the president’s way of amusing the faithful with his deranged rants — and to believe that the Dems and NeverTrumpers are terrified by his knack for keeping the masses entertained.
How did it come to this? (Not a really great song or a strong singer, but the visuals are magnificent.)
Radegunda (d2a4ef) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:49 pmWhat news are you watching, from dawn to midnight he is escoriated in practically every network no accomplishment is acknowledged, ever some half garbled rumor you cant find a public statement for ia taken as fact. No context is ever applied.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:55 pmSo this corrupt addlepated old man, who has made up every aspect of his public life who was given the trust over the stimulus over afghan and iraq policy, whi derided energy exploration as a solution, who was a tool of all the subprime banks, who j escaped the atatute of limitations
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 8:58 pmThen there is the constant whine over those who break our laws who cant figure our what gender they are, who are of course ignorant of our history of basic marh skills, but they know what they feel about stuff.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:00 pmIs David French’s departure from National Review indicative of an intention on NR’s part to become pro-Trump?
norcal (eec1aa) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:03 pmThen you have the runners up a corrupt prosecutor who literally slept her way ro the top, a harridan who invented the last 50 years of her personal and professional career, an old brezhnev style apparatchik with three dachas,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:03 pmGuess what? After weeks if not months of impeachment chatter, Joe Biden finally got around to declaring Donald Trump should be impeached.
A little slow, Joe.
Even Voyager 1, which was launched over 41 years ago and is nearly 14 BILLION miles from Earth responds to messages sent out to it quicker– in a round trip time of just 41 hours.
Yep… you’re a little slow, Joe.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:06 pmThey all want us shivering in the dark, broiling in the heart, with a gag in our mouth, probably doing the five prayers because christianity is so passe. (The pontiff seems to think the same way)
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:06 pmAnd all the media platforms are in near lockstep, either directly or in coordination wirth the credit card companiesm
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:09 pmIn baseball, you can’t build a lead and then run out the clock. You must give your opponents the same opportunities to score that you had. This essential fairness is what makes it superior to other team sports.
I like this comment a lot.
JVW (602db6) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:11 pmSo i guess from my perspective, the fact that any of the top three yutzs arent in single digits is a little distressing.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:12 pmTell me im wrong, you folks in the peoples republics,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:15 pm“In baseball, you can’t build a lead and then run out the clock. You must give your opponents the same opportunities to score that you had. This essential fairness is what makes it superior to other team sports.”
When did George Will start commenting here?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:21 pmJust kiddin’
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:22 pmHere’s what we know about the whistleblowing:
* The first whistleblower (WB1) had an issue with what s/he heard about (not heard directly) the Trump phone call to the president of Ukraine and felt Trump was out of bounds for asking Ukraine to investigate Crowdstrike and apparent Biden-family graft.
* WB1 then notified Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee of his unease. House members, including both Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi, started revealing parts of WB1’s complaint before it had been filed with the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG).
* Contrary to House rules, the Democrats on the committee did not share the information with the Republicans on the committee.
* When WB1’s complaint was actually filed, it was a well-written legal brief that, oddly, turned out to have no part that was first-hand knowledge, and even more oddly referenced a lot of public press coverage.
* In an odd turn, the direction given by the ICIG’s office, that whistleblower complaints must be based on first-hand information, was rescinded enabling the second-hand WB1 complaint to be considered. This rescission apparently happened in September but was backdated to August.
* WB1’s complaint also turned out to have a number of factual errors.
* After the Democrats demanded the release of the transcript, Trump declassified the transcript, upon which the demands were changed to releasing WB1’s complaint. Which Trump then did.
* The House Democrats refuse to make public WB1’s name, but the ICIG testified that the complaint was questionable because WB1 was not just a registered Democrat but was professionally associated with a current Democrat’s 2020 campaign.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/who-does-the-whistleblower-know/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:35 pmAnd now we know the politician is JOE BIDEN…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:36 pmThey left this part of the story,
https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/10/10/lindsey-graham-got-prank-called-inadvertently-admitted-hard-truths-situation-syria/
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:39 pmLooks like these cheeky munkeys are ripe for the Moron® branding on their buttocks.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:41 pmIts not an easy thing it wasnt in 1975, when one of the countries was involved, it wasnt in 1991, the un authorization didnt cover proactive actions
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 9:45 pm@85 and 88 Ad hominem is good for venting, but not much use otherwise.
@97 That isn’t what we know, it’s a little what we think we might know and a lot of what you think.
Sigh.
Nic (896fdf) — 10/10/2019 @ 10:10 pmMisattributed his wifes accident, his academic career, his record on two front are clear, so were his pro soviet sympathies from the 80s so was his major poicy implementation.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 10:26 pm#64-
Under the executive unitary theory, the President is the head of the intelligence community.
Rip Murdock (ad4321) — 10/10/2019 @ 10:52 pmSince there are no facts known about the whistleblower’s career (only speculations), is it possible the revealing his or her identity might violate the Intelligence Identities Protection Act?
Rip Murdock (ad4321) — 10/10/2019 @ 10:57 pmIts not that way in practice:
https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewHClark/status/1182042159974891525
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 11:00 pmYou have to be kidding:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1182486296448720897
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 11:08 pmWaPo op-ed:
We investigated the Watergate scandal. We believe Trump should be impeached.
We, former members of the Watergate special prosecutor force, believe there exists compelling prima facie evidence that President Trump has committed impeachable offenses. This evidence can be accepted as sufficient for impeachment, unless disproved by any contrary evidence that the president may choose to offer…..
The House, through its Judiciary Committee, fulfilled that responsibility by reviewing the evidence, interviewing witnesses and concluding that the facts warranted adopting three articles of impeachment: one for obstruction, one for abuse of power and one for contempt of Congress. Shortly thereafter, the president resigned rather than face a Senate trial.
Rip Murdock (ad4321) — 10/10/2019 @ 11:08 pmIn our considered view, the same three articles of impeachment could be specified against Trump, as he has demonstrated serious and persistent abuses of power that, in our view, satisfy the constitutional standard of “high crimes and misdemeanors.” ….
The passed over civil servant who had managed more violations of law then nixon ever could?
narciso (d1f714) — 10/10/2019 @ 11:10 pm#6. Yep, Kavanaugh II. Hold tight, Avinutty is on the case. He is representing
iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:07 am11.5 persons that know first hand of talk about people close the matter that
thought about doing something when the time presented itself, concerning the
seriousness of accusations surrounding events that upset the sensibilities of
career dedicated public service, who have no political bias and only spend 3 hours
a day working for the DNC
This really is Kavanaugh II
Its a circus folks,settle in and enjoy the show!
iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:32 amSince the WB filed using the old form, why does this matter?
Time123 (af99e9) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:43 amLooks like the Trump DOJ is fighting corruption, One Trump donor at a time. Drain that swamp!
Time123 (797615) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:46 amforgot my link. Oops..
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/giuliani-associates-nabbed-for-alleged-campaign-crimes
I’m sure it’s not True. We all know that Fox is fake news, right?
Time123 (af99e9) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:48 am#114. Are you saying Giuliani is going to be indicted for campaign finance violations? Because you need a different link, because that is not what your link presents.
iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/11/2019 @ 5:21 amAfter 2 years,Deuschte bank tells the court, they have no tax returns for DJT or his companies
The acme company fails the coyote yet again 🙁
iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/11/2019 @ 5:31 amFrom the bothan spies:
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/08/the_giuliani-ukraine_files_120711.html
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 5:49 amWhat do you Cantafornians think of your Cuban like comrades living without power?
mg (8cbc69) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:10 amThey’re going to try to blame Giuliani and Trump for the disinformation, and not Putin.
Not in addition to Putin (for not realizing it etc)
But instead of Putin.
Sammy Finkelman (1d7dd8) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:11 amWe have some orange’s word, I forget its name, saying in Helsinki that Putin knew nothing about and had nothing to do with Russian interference in our elections. You believe in oranges, don’t you? They have Vitamin C.
nk (dbc370) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:18 amWe have this leamas burnout who told out all these things that didnt pan out, his confirmation source mr winer, actually worked on behalf of the russian nuclear prigram
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:20 am#120. That was for face saving public consumption. In private President Trump told Putin to knock it off. 4 times, he told Putin to knock of off.
iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:25 amSimple math informs us, President Trump quadrupled the Obama administrations efforts, to stop election interference by Russia.
When you blow prigozhins tin soldier set, you mean business, when you send heavy weapons to their blood rival.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:26 amNow the intel assessment put together by strzok fusion set, was the big promotional piece since the marketing for 1997s godzilla
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:29 amYes jonathan winer who was kerrys staff director when he witchhunted the nicaraguan resistance was representing uranium one for apco.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:37 amAbout that White House letter to Congress:
Paul Montagu (00daa1) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:39 amSo this whole tiff, was touched off by an astroturfed complaint of second hand gossip, which presumably palomino pelosi didnt initially see.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:50 am#126 The letter is a PR response to a PR investigation.
Answer me this. How would holding a vote. Instituting the same House rules used in the last two impeachments, shared subpoena power with the ranking member and the Presidents counsel invited to be present with the ability to question witnesses…in public, not behind closed doors, hinder the fact finding mission of an impeachment inquiry?
iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:52 amyea I thought so.
Unable to answer a simple question, validates the charge that Pelosi is engaged in PR, narrative setting. NOT conducting an impeachment inquiry.
For those without the rosetta, thats when the soviets were sponsoring guerilla groups in latin america, and my people adrewere fighting them sometimes against thse stupid neutrality rules
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:52 amA medical clinic near to my home, was providing aupport while kerry biden harkin dodd were so involved with ortega thry needed a penicillin shot,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:54 amWere involved, strobe talbott was carrying the water of a known kgb fixer named victor louis, who he wouldnt have had a career without access to the kruschev papers
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:56 am126 & 128 —
Impeachment is a political process. PR is part of it.
The PR aspect of things, I guess, can be one of these things partisans complain endlessly about. But who cares? If the President refuses to give up anything and stonewall to the max, the Democrats can just add it to the impeachment article and move forward and hand the PR mess to the Senate.
Trump’s unfitness for office is out for the world to see. The only thing left to understand, really, is how dire Ukraine’s position has been for years, and how the quid pro quo is inherent in Trump’s behavior. (Having Russia invade you by proxies is kind of devastating.) I think people forget that, given Trump’s reputation for Putin love, they will do ANYTHING to keep the arms flowing.
Appalled (1a17de) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:05 am114… the mere existence of Fox News bothers you Democrats. And that’s a wonderful thing!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:06 am134 And the mere existence of Fox News people like Shep and the second generation of Wallace make you Republicans crazy. That’s pretty wonderful, too. Just like the Fox News polls.
Appalled (1a17de) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:09 am@115, no I’m saying the two gentlemen that were arrested at the airport are Trump supporters. They did give him a LOT of money.
Time123 (af99e9) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:10 am@133, Are you getting enough sleep. I Was making fun of Trump for bashing fox news. Usually you pick up on stuff like that.
Time123 (af99e9) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:12 am“Since there are no facts known about the whistleblower’s career (only speculations), is it possible the revealing his or her identity might violate the Intelligence Identities Protection Act?”
105… possible but highly improbable.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:13 amYes because they carry the same democrar talling points,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:13 amStill bothered, aren’t ya…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:13 am#76
I’ve thought about this some more.
I do empathize the Kurd’s plight… and I do agree with French’s argument that engaging in these sorts of warfare it’s much better to do it with allies like the YPG Kurds.
However, it’s not a simple calculus here and I think French isn’t taking the bigger picture here.
Here are the facts.
1) Turkey is also our ally… and not only that, but a NATO ally. We may disagree with allying with Erdogan’s government or wish we could kick him out of NATO. That’s fine and dandy to continue that conversation, but let’s not ignore that, right now…this literal second, Turkey is not only an ally, but one with a mutual defense treaty that was ratified by the US Senate, and thus has explicit Constitutional obligations. This isn’t a policy-like decision or the like that a POTUS could ‘pen and phone’ this away… this has legal/Constitutional implications.
We cannot hand-wave this reality.
2) Turkey is not going to allow an autonomous Kurdish area in northern Syria. Full stop. In northern Iraq, the Kurds had near autonomous quasi-state that was supported by US efforts (and to certain extent the Iraqi government)… which is a region that the Kurdish PKK uses as a springboard for their terrorist activities within Turkey. Erdogan (and the Turkish government) has repeatedly stated that they will not accept the Kurds to operate like that at the Syrian-Turkish border. Whether Turkey is “in the right” to proclaim that or not, this is what they’ve been saying for quite some time.
3) The PKK Kurds is literally on the US’ terrorist list. It would be illegal for an US persons to offer any support to the PKK. Legally, it’d be no different that someone offering support abroad to ISIS. The YPG Kurds is a Syrian confederate arm of the PKK Kurds. So, here we have another example of the US government allying with a group with ties to terrorists because we needed an ally to fight another terrorist group(ISIS). This is very reminiscence of the US support of Afghanistan Tribes during the Cold War, in which circumstances change where they ended up being enemies.
So given the three, if Erdagon insists on creating a buffer zone across the Syrian-Turkey boarder (while warring with the Kurds in the region). Here are the options as I see it:
a) Keep the 50-100 US military there and dare Turkey to attack us? Do we really want to play a game of chicken between two warring civil war factions?
b) US Militarize the area, ala Operation Iraqi Freedom, to protect the Kurds? Sorta a DMZ zone modeling after the Korea peninsula??? Would this get the public support?
c) Get out of the way, and use non-military assets to pressure Turkey not to destroy our other allies (ie, diplomatically/economically)? (additionally, supporting the Kurds by other means, such as weapons sales and the like).
I get why Trump chose “c”. I wish there’s a better option. I wish I can simply ignore the reality of the fact that Turkey is a NATO ally… I wish I can ignore the fact that Congress didn’t (or is unwilling to) have a say of these sort of military engagement, because I do believe it is in our best interest to support the YPG Kurds in that region, in the context of this Syrian civil war. Additionally, I also wish all of our leaders (including Trump) would articulate the rationale for these sorts of engagements for public support. So that we (as voters) can hold our elected officials accountable at the ballot box with clarity.
However…right now, I don’t believe there’s a current legal framework that allows the Executive to engage in these military engagements. In my mind, Congress has abdicated their duty to have a say, and it’s up to them to claw this back from the Executive branch. This is a precedent, built upon previous administrations that need to be broken.
whembly (fd57f6) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:14 amTalking points, when the dems are really concerned they burn not just the name od the operative, his current employer and lisy his family, just so they’re right in the open.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:15 amAt some point this needs to happen. I don’t think it needs to happen at this stage. YMMV As far as closed door hearings go, I’m of two minds.
1. I like as much transparency as possible.
2. Open hearings lead to dumb, grandstanding speeches instead of good questions. If they don’t have cameras maybe those idiots will do a decent job of asking questions, or better yet give their time to someone that’s GOOD at questioning a witness.
I think the accusations against trump are serious enough to be investigated. I don’t think they’ve been proven. I’d like an investigation to be done that has a chance of proving them, so that if that investigation fails we can have some confidence it wasn’t extortion. but again, YMMV
Time123 (797615) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:17 am“Will be interesting to watch how many NBA players kneel in protest to the Chinese national anthem.”
—- Razor
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:19 amThat’s a great analogy that encapsulate why Democrats “running out the clock” under current impeachment efforts.
whembly (fd57f6) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:21 amWe saw how serious the dems took a terrorist attack against a civilian facility that took four lives, including an ambassador. Now that was a direct attack on our country. The tapes from the embassy were never shown. The perpetrators were quietly tried but no fuss was made.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:24 amHere’s a clear synopsis of the Turkish offensive:
whembly (fd57f6) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:26 amhttps://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/the-turkish-offensive/
Ive seen how many hot takes how this was no big deal, because ear leader was partying up with jay z and his lieutenant was probably too drunk to stand in the diplomatic security office. That night
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:27 amSo an entitled pols dirty laundry is avalable for the people to see, including her arrangements with a complicit press thats an attack on amerikah, give me a break,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:30 amElites, public sector workers hardest hit…
Between 2017 and 2018:
·Real median family income up 1.2%
·Real median earnings up 3.4%
·Full-time, year-round workers up 2.3 million
·Poverty rate down from 12.3% to 11.8%; childhood poverty fell faster; net 1.4 million people left poverty
·Income in the bottom 80% of households was up significantly, only the top 20% of households saw an income decline. [emphasis added]
https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2019/10/10/the_economic_news_from_the_census_bureau_is_very_good_103941.html
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:30 amYou see how i cant take much of this seeiously, now this is the third such incursion into syrian territory in as nwarly many years.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:33 amhttps://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/ukrainebiden-526×600.jpg
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:33 am”Under a long-term deal sealed by the Obama administration, a Chinese Communist company was set to control the second-busiest container port in the United States. In an unreported Trump administration victory, the Communists are out after a drawn-out national security review forced a unit of China-based COSCO Shipping Holdings Co. (Orient Overseas Container Line—OOCL) to sell the cherished container terminal business, which handles among the largest freight of imports into the U.S.
It all started with a 40-year container terminal lease between the Port of Long Beach in southern California and Hong Kong. The Obama administration proudly signed the agreement in 2012 giving China control of America’s second-largest container port behind the nearby Port of Los Angeles. One of the Trump administration’s first big moves was to get the Communists out of the Port of Long Beach. After a national security review and federal intervention, the Long Beach terminal business, which handles millions of containers annually, is finally being sold to an Australian company called Macquarie Infrastructure Partners. That essentially kills China’s decades-long contract with the Obama administration.”
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/trump-rids-major-u-s-container-port-of-chinese-communist-control/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:39 amThe T squad forgets the main purpose of Fox News polls – they traditionally skew D in order to get you off your couch and vote. CBS traditionally drew that straw for the other side.
The poll story is given as the rationale for the sit down between Bill Barr and Rupert Murdoch, but it may also confirm mg’s suspicions about Barr being deep-state – this would be the 2nd time the cock crowed.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:43 amThis is the outfit that filed the comolaint, notice any familiar name:
https://campaignlegal.org/about
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:53 amWaiting for the first NBA peacock to incorporate a Mao Bow in his celebratory “in your face” dance…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:55 amYes that’s trevor potter, lois lerners boss at the fec.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:55 amChoreographed celebration is more the NFL these days. Too much 3-point shooting and Euro-stepping for hard inside play – Zion Williamson might bring dunking back, though, if his first exhibition was any indication.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:03 amIf he gets a hardier shoe, so the same guy who told us daniels was an in kind contribution, just happens to have this part of the kerfluffle.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:05 amLefties are just normal folks… https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1182442615922290688
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:02 amEPIC FAIL!!!
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/pound%20me%20too%2001.jpg
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:05 amReligous freedom or leftist totalitarianism. The choice is yours.
https://twitter.com/doc_0/status/1182647394820861952?s=21
NJRob (457228) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:11 amThis actually happened at CNN’s LGBTQ Town Hall last night:
Way to read the room, Fredo!
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:38 amAlex P. Keaton (John Kasich’s likely neighbor) already used that move.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:45 amMore of a classical liberal, mostly along the lines of Thomas Sowell myself…though I reserve the right to disagree with anyone about any thing regardless of what some third party I respect may or may not have said…but this about sums up my feelings re Trump and conservatism…
PTw (7bc26d) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:54 amI’m thinking of changing my pronouns to “your grace” and “his grace”.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:57 amHeh. I now see NJ Rob and I reference the same source.
PTw (7bc26d) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:59 amTrump fulfills campaign promise to bring troops home, stop endless wars!
Pentagon announces new troop deployments to Saudi Arabia
I guess it’s only fair, since the Saudis helped us at Normandy.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:07 amNice thread https://www.couponnx.in/store/blockchain-council-coupons/
Blockchain Council (ec0da2) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:10 amWho is this “Trump” of whom you speak? There is no such person. There has never been any such person.
nk (dbc370) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:13 amlike the thalosians, I guess Hillary is president now, that seems to be true to most of the bureaucracy, they kiss the hand that holds the corona,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:18 amYeah, using military aid to blackmail a foreign government into swaying an election in his favor is not aggressively using the power of the state against the electorate AT ALL.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:19 amThey will be paying dearly for this…
https://sports.yahoo.com/people-want-answers-after-bay-area-tv-station-uses-racist-headline-to-cover-braves-nlds-loss-033047397.html
Colonel Haiku (1a00eb) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:21 am171… rent-free, 24×7
Colonel Haiku (1a00eb) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:23 amthose words you are using…
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/344970/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pjmedia%2Finstapundit+%28Instapundit%29
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:26 am173… ad hominem, 24×7
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:27 amHere’s your chance to get down with your badselves, Democrats and #NeverTrump!
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LnJQj0f1boI/XaCwy9ckr0I/AAAAAAAALF0/wJuVEFmCotYF4GbDxWu015v5E_XNlhGmQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2019-10-11%2Bat%2B11.41.18%2BAM.png
Colonel Haiku (1a00eb) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:28 amParty like you’ve gone off teh reservation!!!
Colonel Haiku (1a00eb) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:31 amIrvine… “you canNOT paint your garage door that color!”
Colonel Haiku (1a00eb) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:32 am128. iowan2 (9c8856) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:52 am
The problem is not that it would hinder it, it’s that it would help it. And they want to blame everything on Trump, and nothing on Putin, who is the probable source of much of Giuliani’s information from Ukraine.
Now nderstand, 90% of that information was wrong, and most of that shoud have been given any credibility. But it;s one thin to try to intiate awithhunt, and it’s another thing to try to substantiate something which you maybe hope is true.
And there’s another thing:
If Republican members of the House, Republican counsel, or Trump’s lawyers were to summon Biden as a witness (arguing let’s get his denials on the record) and just ask him questions, somebody is bound to ask him to give his version of that scene in Kiev where he threatened to withhold loan guarantees right before a press conference where that was going to be announced, and why he did it.
And when that happens Joe Biden will have no choice but to say:
He will be, and is, unable to answer simple questions about it.
Sammy Finkelman (1d7dd8) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:06 amPeople are beginning to notice.
173, thats par for course on the Bay Area local news, didnt they get tricked into prematurely revealing the made-up names of the pilots that crash landed at SFO a few years ago?
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:12 amDave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 10:19 am
he was not trying to blackmail the Ukrainian government, ad he was not trying to get them to “sway the election” for two reasons: first, it was too far ahead of the election for anything about Biden to affect the outcome of the general election – this was no October Surprise; and second, he wasn’t asking for anything other than the truth – and he’s not a Democrat, who can peddle lies and hope to make them stick.
It would only help him if the accusations against Biden were believed, and that could only happen if they were true. And if they were true, it would be very much in the public interest to reveal them.
Sammy Finkelman (1d7dd8) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:13 amYou will only confuse him, Sammy.
Here’s how lefties thank our law enforcement:
https://twitter.com/abigailmarone/status/1182499393234231296
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:39 amThank you Sammy. I had neither the time nor the patience to explain that again. Not that such explanations will ever satisfy.
PTw (894877) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:43 am180… like Wei Tu Low?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:45 amSo Trump is like his whistleblower and all either wants is the truth?
DRJ (d18ca6) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:51 amWei Tu Low was the probably the flight attendant from that ill-fated Air France flight from Brazil.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:54 amGlenn beck explained much of the whole sordid mess in the ukraine with audio tapes at certain segments, he made one perhaps incorrect attributio
narciso (29c306) — 10/11/2019 @ 11:58 am“Lawyers for the CIA officer whose whistleblower complaint helped ignite an impeachment inquiry into President Trump have asked Congress whether their client could submit testimony in writing instead of appearing in person, according to people familiar with the matter.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ukraine-whistleblower-wants-to-testify-in-writing-instead-of-appearing-in-person-report-says/ar-AAID84G?li=BBnb7Kz
If the Democrats learned anything in the Kavanaugh Hearings, it’s to ensure the testimony comes from some anonymous source who stays anonymous which means the story can never be checked out or the source cross-examined on the stand.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 12:01 pmGood point. Trump would only tell people something if it were true.
Like how he told the Kurds he was establishing something for them called a “Safe Zone.”
Like how Trump told us he found Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate.
Biden’s dropping in the polls right now. He probably won’t be the nominee. Trump’s getting what that billion in American aid money purchased for his campaign.
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 12:23 pmYeah, they should just ignore the President’s wistful public musings about having the source executed.
Dave (4b15f7) — 10/11/2019 @ 12:34 pmIt is amazing, Dave. Every fact is twisted however badly so that Trump is the victim.
Yes, Dave does indeed think about President Trump when entering a discussion forum on a politics blog. Sorry that triggers you. Maybe you need a safe space.
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 12:44 pmDid Beck talk about this?
Sometimes I wonder if no one will cover both sides of a matter.
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 12:46 pmShep Smith leaving FoxNews. He says he asked to be let go.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 1:12 pm@193. SRhyms w/Keith Olbermann’s jettison from MSNBC.
There’s only one way you “leave” Fox: when somebody puts a hand up your skirtand gives your tush a push.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/11/2019 @ 1:29 pm^Rhymes
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/11/2019 @ 1:29 pmBreaking- Trump announces ‘trade deal’ w/China.
“Phase One.” “Phase Two”… another one of his Big Dick history rhymes; see Nixon, 1971.
On deck, “Impeach With Honor” — eh, Captain sir?!
DCSCA (797bc0) — 10/11/2019 @ 1:52 pm“As you know for many years leaders in Washington brought large numbers of refugees to your state from Somalia without considering the impact on schools and communities and taxpayers,” he said to the crowd who responded with boos of support.”
Even David Duke would think twice about saying this in Minneapolis. But not him.
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:23 pm”Even David Duke would think twice about saying this in Minneapolis. But not him.”
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:23 pm
Yeah, he probably should’ve just said “some people did something”, and that would’ve been fine with you.
Munroe (53beca) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:29 pmI am not saying it’s a Dog Whistle. I don’t have to. You already knew it.
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:35 pm197. Trump is guilty of geographicalism, not racism.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:38 pmIt was potentially Jihadi Dumping and perhaps it should be reviewed.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:39 pmIt may amount morally to the same thing except it’s more irrational and contrary to fact.
Now here Trump was talking about money. But if poor refugees are bad aren’t births to poor people even worse?
Actually births to middle clss people too. All but the very very rich. We have aprogressive tax system
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:41 pmIt wasn’t the students in Minnesota, it was the teachers.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:41 pmCoincidence. Challenging Obama’s birth certificate? Oh sure, Sammy.
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:43 pmMaybe Trump has it in for Hawaiians?? Geographicalism. Ha.
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:44 pmOh sorry. Kenyans. And Somalis.
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:45 pma pro Ukrainian oligarch sanctioned by Russia, in 2018, ‘are you mental’ as they would say in red dwarf,
yes, Minneapolis is the leading recruitment site of al shabaab and Islamic state in the country,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:52 pmsome details,
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1182481078159851520.html
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:57 pm“Joe Biden Playacted Like He Was Gay at CNN’s LGBTQ Town Hall
Joe Biden started his spiel at Thursday’s Democratic presidential town hall on LGBTQ issues with a disclaimer. All the candidates support LGBTQ rights, Biden warned, so there wouldn’t be much space between their positions. Any difference between the candidates, he said, would be in their “degree of emotional concern.”
To prove the depth of his own emotional concern for queer people, Biden decided to act like one. He flirted with multiple men, joked that he was about to come out as gay, and at one point, clasped Anderson Cooper on the shoulder and mimed giving him a kiss.”
Video of Slow Joe’s act…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xEOvyi59FY
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/joe-bidens-weird-gay-acting-cnn-lgbtq-town-hall.html
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 2:59 pmhahahahaha
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 3:01 pmI am sure you want to stop all immigration from Germany? You know. Nazis and all.
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 3:01 pm200… was this meant for Sammy?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 3:16 pmin 1942, if they were pro reich, i’d be a little discretionary,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 3:17 pmFixed.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 3:18 pmAll this BS from Trump’s supporters… I have to wonder what the excuse will be for this one:
Trump’s ‘Safe Zone’ = Turkey bombing you con has led to ISIS being released from this prison.
Also, Trump said he was bringing the troops home, but amid the recent Trump-instigated invasion, we’re sending 2,000 more troops to Saudi Arabia for some reason.
And I think this is the worst part: US Troops just got attacked by the Turkish invasion of Syria in Trump’s “Safe Zone.”
👎
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 3:40 pmShep Smith – the Tokyo Rose of cable.
mg (8cbc69) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:05 pm215 – The move is part of an accelerating buildup meant to counter Iran’s aggressive actions in the region, officials say
mg (8cbc69) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:09 pmHe will be missed. 🕴🏻
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:12 pmShep Smith’s biggest fans didn’t watch Fox News. He was told to not criticize other Fox News people and I would bet he did just that – hence the hasty departure. Fortunately, he can now write a book about his “Noble struggle for Truth at Nasty Right wing Fox News”. Which all liberals will praise and not buy.
rcocean (1a839e) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:26 pmShep Smith quits. Liberals hardest hit.
rcocean (1a839e) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:26 pmPerhaps the Never-trumpers are starting their own TV network and Shep Smith will head it. After all there’s an unfilled market niche for people who dislike Trump. You just can’t get anyone to attack Trump on TV. Seriously, I never watched the guy, he seemed to just a generic cable TV news guy. I wonder what his rating were.
rcocean (1a839e) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:29 pmRepublicans. Living their truth. And by “truth”, I mean… whatever he dreams up today.
noel (f22371) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:35 pmIran is indeed being very aggressive. And why wouldn’t they be, with the USA leaving such a vacuum of power? That ship it hijacked went right to where the Kurds are being killed, close to the Russian naval base in Syria. That happened about at the same time Trump got the Kurdish to fall for the Safe Zone con.
The idea this is a recipe for peace is absurd. The idea Trump wants to bring the troops home is apparently false.
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 4:44 pmLooks like the kerfuffle involving US troops was one shell?
https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-11-at-20.33.46.png
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 5:51 pmAnother Homeland Security department head has resigned.
Kevin McAleenan resigns as acting homeland security secretary
Nothing to see here, move along!
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 5:55 pmInstapundit is a clown. You really can’t trust him any more than a Hamas spokesman. Sad, as just a few years ago that wasn’t the case. But if your blog is your business, you probably do not go the Patterico route. You probably go the ‘pick a team’ route.
And I betcha if Obama let islamists attack our friends, and they shelled our troops while ISIS escaped a prison, the guys saying ‘that’s really ok’ would be saying it was poor leadership. Betcha a nickel.
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:00 pmIf they’re our friends, why didn’t they help us at Normandy?
Hmm?
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:02 pm226… “News of the strike was first reported by Newsweek. A senior U.S. official said that describing the strike as an attack on U.S. service members would be “not accurate. The official added that there has been no military activity in the area since the explosion.”
https://t.co/0VdEXCDugk?amp=1
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:12 pmFrom the Military Times…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:13 pmAllahpundit riffs on the Shep Smith departure from Fox:
LOL.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:13 pmAh shemps b movie screeching over katrina, morning joke went on the same note
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:15 pmThis is an example of the disinformation, mischaracterization and hyperbole that some practice in their zeal to do damage.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:15 pmHeh, narciso… Smith was probably best known for his breathless stories of baby-eating in the wake of Katrina.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:18 pmWhile the left accuses others of fascist behavior, they constantly engage in exactly the actions they claim to protest.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/last-night-we-saw-fascism-in-the-streets.php
NJRob (432830) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:21 pmNo megyn has more scorched earth around her than tunguska.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:21 pmThis is just one angle:
https://apelbaum.files.wordpress.com/2019/10/ukraine-related-atlantic-council-linkage-3.jpg
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:29 pmThey call it mellow yellow… https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/10/11/communism-cuba-urges-citizens-to-eat-banana-peels-to-improve-humor/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:38 pmThey also said “No collusion”
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:39 pmbut but according to ace of spades and the Trump administration, the Turkish aren’t going to cleanse the area of Kurds at all! It’s all good guys!
I wonder how much the Kurds trust what senior administration officials say?
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:41 pmWhich no matter how many mueller candles you light.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:41 pmA WWND “What Would Narciso Do?” situation at a G5 college lecture.
urbanleftbehind (0be1ef) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:45 pmShemp was the same hysterical pom pom waver for left interests, as shallow as a shoal in the mississippi,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:45 pmOh, and I forgot to mention that the attorney defending Parnas-Fruman is John Dowd, who represented Trump during the Special Counsel investigation for nine months.
Paul Montagu (00daa1) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:46 pm😬
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:50 pmAllahpundit riffs on the Shep Smith departure from Fox:
My wife says it will look like ISN under President Clark. (classic media reference)
Kevin M (19357e) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:51 pmNot the sharpest knives in the drawer, chica doesnt think shes white, and shes trying to pretend she faced a hoatile audience at an elite u, but the idiots who responded this way deserve the billy madison treatmenr.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:54 pmInstead of the two minute hate at thr other 9 networks (add telemundo young turks and air america: free access)
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 6:57 pmIm surprised it happened so quickly
https://mobile.twitter.com/Renai0304/status/1182803484736835584
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:22 pmBetter luck next time, lol.
https://mobile.twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/1182756318077227009
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:27 pmYou know this very stupid woman makes all look bad, was father felix varela white was marti was francisco miranda, no not the playright the answer is yes. Now dont get me started on the cast of lords of diacipline.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:48 pm‘They also said “No collusion” ‘
As did the DOJ. You lose.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:54 pm240… I thought NeverTrump had tossed those Mueller votive candles, narciso, lol.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 7:57 pmCant return them to the store, theyre like the atari et game (theres actually a landfil in new mexico, full of the things)
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:02 pmIt’s heartbreaking to see the shovels flying for months and months with all of the feverish NeverTrumpers thinking, “there MUST be a pony in there!”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:03 pmFor his anti-Biden efforts, Giuliani is under federal investigation and prosecutors are going to nail his a$$, just like Gus Petch. You want tact, hire a tactician.
Paul Montagu (00daa1) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:04 pmAnd they settled on ukraine, as trump is the only one who gave them any real military assistance.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:06 pmHow sad for Giuliani. A hero of law enforcement. Granted, the actual reform of New York’s crime situation started before Giuliani, with some common sense but at the time innovative reforms and hard work by the police department itself. But Rudy didn’t get in the way, and he made a great name for himself on that. Now he’s just another slimy politician. I honestly don’t get it. It’s kinda like the NBA in China. Why not just love your sport, your freedom, and just say ‘I’ve got enough’. Why do we need more so much?
Dustin (6d7686) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:13 pmJust like the bundy ranchers and the malheir ones
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 8:50 pmHavent heard her soeak, but she looks like rebeccca gayheart.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:39 pmShe doesnt harp on white privilege in her girst book.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/11/2019 @ 9:43 pmhttps://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/the-donald-trump-experience.php
mg (8cbc69) — 10/12/2019 @ 2:07 amShe must have crossed i-4 or I-10 or whatever line now constitutes revocation of honorary whiteness for pale hispanos on presumption of being Cubano.
urbanleftbehind (a281fe) — 10/12/2019 @ 5:07 amShes an english and ethnic studies professor.
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2019 @ 5:14 amI know hair on fire:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/10/a-sensible-take-on-syria.php
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2019 @ 5:24 amNow he’s just another slimy politician.
Giuliani has always been a slimeball.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2019 @ 6:27 amhttps://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/trump-did-not-betray-the-kurds/
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2019 @ 7:05 amA Caiaphas justifying Judas.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2019 @ 7:24 amNot Giuliani. The yenta in narciso’s link is the one I mean. But it could be Giuliani too.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2019 @ 7:26 amYenta, schmenta… here’s something worth hearing and reading about: https://www.businessinsider.com/eliud-kipchoge-becomes-first-man-to-run-marathon-in-under-2-hours-2019-10
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/12/2019 @ 8:11 amDon’t you think that Trump’s taxes will be released sometime soon and, if so, what is in them that he is so steadfastly trying to conceal?
Total worth? Low rate of income taxes? Russian ties? What good is an emoluments clause in the Constitution if a President has no duty to be transparent with his finances? Who knew that “draining the swamp” could require such secrecy?
noel (f22371) — 10/12/2019 @ 8:15 amWell she was right about netanyahu when everybody had written him off, that counts for something,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2019 @ 8:20 amMaybe he’s just trying to see how frothing-at-the-mouth crazy he can make some of these people.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 10/12/2019 @ 8:20 amyou would think after the last al Capone vault caper, they would get a clue, apparently not,
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2019 @ 8:31 amTransparency. An ugly thing.
noel (f22371) — 10/12/2019 @ 8:33 am“If I decide to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns, absolutely,” he said. “And I would love to do that.”
“we’re working on that now.”
“As soon as the audit is done, I love it.
“I don’t mind releasing. I’m under a routine audit, and it will be released. As soon as the audit’s finished, it will be released,”
“In interview I told @AP that my taxes are under routine audit and I would release my tax returns when audit is complete, not after election!”
My truth is your truth. Believe. Just believe.
noel (f22371) — 10/12/2019 @ 8:45 amHere’s a three minute montage of The Great Swamp Drainer lying about releasing his tax returns.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/12/2019 @ 9:05 amIf you liked Lola, the tie-dyed Goldendoodle, meet Django, the Halloween-ready rescue dog.
Dave (1bb933) — 10/12/2019 @ 9:17 amMeatloaf-eating surrender monkey.
nk (dbc370) — 10/12/2019 @ 9:29 amWrong country:
https://twitter.com/cesaresacchetti/status/1182932354404409344?s=21
narciso (d1f714) — 10/12/2019 @ 9:34 am