I got nothing. I could write about Trump doctoring a hurricane prediction map with a Sharpie to bolster a stupid thing he said in a tweet, but nah.
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I mean, that doctored map is pretty bad even for Trump, but I don’t have the inclination or the energy to take the time to make the case about how ridiculous it is, to an audience whose minds will not be changed one way or another.
Patterico (115b1f) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:30 amGood morning, Pat!
Gryph (08c844) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:32 amWell one could address the parliamemt seuzing cobtrol of brexit, the travesty of justice re greg craig, mattis bodyslamming obama in his memoir over cafe milano, but lets focus on q four day old nhc
Narciso (52211c) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:43 amMeanwhile, in Jolly Old England…
There’s a lot of talk about the difference between Queen’s Consent and Royal Assent.
Also, “Big Girl’s Blouses” and “Chlorinated Chicken”.
Sometimes I wonder how much better US politics could be if a President (not just the current one) would have to sit in front of Congress and trade insults (“answer questions”) for a couple of hours every couple of months.
Xmas (eafb47) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:45 amOk, somebody please educate me. I saw all the original paths of Dorian, and if you know anything about hurricanes you know multiple paths are predicted and shared, and the one Trump showed is one of those original ones. How do we know he didn’t ask the man briefing him a question regarding the path of the storm after it hit Florida, and that man used a marker to show him? I’m no Trumper, the guys an idiot, but I don’t understand all the hoopla?
Brotherico (dfc953) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:06 amPutin update. Item 1. The Russian dictator is still up to his international mischief, and Italy is not excepted, where two right-leaning politicians were caught accepting Russian oil money.
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:15 amItem 2. There is a LOT we don’t know about the extent of Putin’s meddling in American election, such as when Putin’s hackers successfully penetrated election systems in two Florida counties, but members of Congress are under gag orders and details are under lock and key.
Item 3. Polygraph.info is a product of VOA and RFE/RL, and they’re good at fact-checking Putin’s disinformation campaigns, especially against Ukraine, but they also cover Chinese disinformation.
Item 4. And speaking of disinformation, I grudgingly agree that Putin is winning, thanks in part to Trump’s squishiness on the guy and his followers defending Trump’s squishiness.
Our host’s instincts are good. Trump lurches towards self-parody with this stuff, and so do the people inclined to support him in everything. And so do the rest of us, in dealing with it.
There is literally nothing to be said, anymore. The Emperor having no clothes turns some people on, and squiffs the rest of us out.
Dorian coverage is tending towards self-parody as well, as death and destruction and iminent death and destruction is the lightbulb the media moth cannot, dare not avoid fluttering around.
Appalled (d07ae6) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:17 amThe gifts that keep on giving…
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1169599737210834944
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:19 amThis Global Warmening/Climate Change must be dealt with. Disaster is imminent:
https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:25 am“How do we know he didn’t ask the man briefing him a question regarding the path of the storm after it hit Florida, and that man used a marker to show him?”
Brotherico (dfc953) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:06 am
A good example of the humility of saying “I don’t know”.
Munroe (732181) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:38 amBrotherico,
Here’s what I think the problem is for Trump:
1. The President gets his information in briefings from the National Hurricane Center. None of the Dorian maps from the National Hurricane Center showed Alabama in the cone for storm warnings.
2. The closest Alabama came was on August 30 in Advisories 26A, 27 and 27A. These advisories show the warnings were close to Alabama but not in Alabama.
3. The Sharpie cone that included Alabama was not part of any National Hurricane Center advisory. It appears to have been added solely to bolster Trump’s claim/tweet.
Maybe Trump misspoke. Maybe Trump looked at other maps or someone gave him a map. Had Trump provided either of those explanations, it would have been plausible and understandable. Making up a map is not.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:46 am@5
1). It shows a character flaw on Trumps part that he couldn’t admit that he got the facts in changing situation wrong. (A mistake that’s easy to make)
Time123 (22f35b) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:49 am2). It has real world impact because it effects who is being told they need to prepare. This is better than telling people at risk that they’re safe. But it’s still bad.
3). It serves as a cartoonish example that what the president says cannot be relied upon.
4). Some people find it funny that he’s this desperate and insecure.
See how these clowns like it…
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/u-s-confirms-cash-offer-to-tanker-captains-to-seize-iranian-vessels/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:59 amwell he was kind of handsy:
https://freebeacon.com/blog/mark-halperin-consent/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:02 amthis one for sure,
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/05/alva-johnson-drops-trump-lawsuit/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:05 amGiven how far Trump has already gone on this story, he will probably want someone from the National Hurricane Center to admit to being the source of the Sharpie cone map … and someone may do it. A private warning they didn’t share with Alabama or anyone in America, just Trump. If so, this is how power corrupts and undermines our faith in every aspect of our system.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:16 amone of those Clinton oops, that the press covered up with a cloth,
https://babalublog.com/2019/09/05/the-wasp-network-movie-romanticizing-killers-from-cuban-intelligence-and-vilifying-their-victims/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:19 amwhy would we doubt the bureau’s crack instincts,
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/09/05/why_was_the_fbi_incurious_about_a_hot_collusion_tip_involving_this_man_120181.html
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:24 amAlso, Brotherico, IMO the storm warning maps are not the same as the forecast maps that show the projected movement of the remnants of a storm after it makes landfall. Had Dorian moved West instead of North, there would not have been a storm warning for Alabama. There would have been warnings about rainfall like the tentative warnings for Arkansas during Hurricane Harvey.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:25 amThis GIF on Trump’s clown-car hurricane map reminds of another famous GIF (the second link I do reluctantly because Charles Johnson banned me).
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:33 amAnd there are at seven other episodes where Trump people jumped into the breach to cover for Trump’s lies and falsehoods. This is amateur hour at its most amateur.
On a previous thread, DRJ explained “anger.” My guess is that the NeverTrumpers are operating on fear alone.
BuDuh (fdeae0) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:44 amI am not NeverTrump but does make me fearful to have a President who makes things up to salve his ego. He isn’t the first to do this but he is taking it to a stunning level.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:52 amRemember Wag the Dog?
DRJ (15874d) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:55 amThere is no way Dorian could crossed Florida and reached Alabama as a hurricane. It would have dissipated down to a tropical storm as soon as it hit land. Completely bizarre.
Ripmurdock (2ddaab) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:58 amI’m not as worried about a “wag the dog”
Time123 (22f35b) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:07 amI’m worried about a real problem that requires us to trust a man that has proven to be an unapologetic liar.
Oy vey, like you people don’t know Mr. President Trump! Alabama on a map he could not find if the catsup on his meatloaf depended on it when he did the tweet. Everything that followed is because the schmuck never admits his ignorance.
nk (dbc370) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:14 amIn the meantime the progressive conservatives (whatever that is) are upset that Boris Johnson kicked them out of the party after they betrayed the people that voted to leave the EU by crossing over to support the statist left.
NJRob (9bb8bc) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:23 amWet tories they were the bane of thatcher:
Narciso (52211c) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:27 amhttps://legalinsurrection.com/2019/09/san-francisco-declares-nra-to-be-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/
We need to modify the emergency powers act to require an up or down vote on the emergency action by congress within a reasonable time frame, probably 30 – 90 days. This would give congress the opportunity to stop the spending of funds or allocate funds from a different source. Regardless of how you feel about immigration it’s clear that Congress has had ample opportunity to address funding for a wall and has declined to allocate money. While this is an important issue it’s not an emergency issue that needed to be addressed more quickly than congress could act.
Trump appears to have used this power in a somewhat restrained and broad way, but it’s not hard to see how a more focused leader could use this as a political tool to punish representatives that oppose them. I can easily see how someone like Hillary would do exactly that when she signed her “Climate Change” Emergency act into effect, and if they were smart and dishonest (as opposed to brash and dishonest) they’d have a paper trail to make it look like they weren’t punishing their political enemies
Time123 (52fb0e) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:34 amIf you elect any of these yutzes, they will steal the lifeblood from this society, by atatute or decree it doesnt matter,
Narciso (52211c) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:39 amBloomberg’s update to their hit piece on olsen is sadly lacking.
Time123 (353edd) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:42 am@30, I believe in limited government. Part of how we do that is separation of powers. I’m 100% sure a president like Hillary Clinton would be bad. But the least we can do is work to limit the executive branch when someone demonstrates a loophole they can exploit.
we now know that an ’emergency’ is whatever the president says it is and that they can re-allocate certain defense budgets however they like. This loophole needs to be closed before it’s the norm.
Time123 (52fb0e) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:45 amI wonder if Boris will kick his brother out of the party for his “betrayal“. Jo left because he was forced to choose between brother and country, and he picked “country” by bailing.
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/5/2019 @ 10:51 am#31
Bloomberg did revise their original story somewhat. And then they included this in their current story:
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The implication, in this, is that maybe Olson had revised his facebook page to cover up something. Graceless, at best.
Appalled (d07ae6) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:03 amI mean, that doctored map is pretty bad even for Trump
If a Democrat could create a caricature of a Republican, it would be a lot like Trump. Maybe smarter.
But rather than rail against Trump, conservatives and others should reflect a bit on how we got Trump. It didn’t just happen. He beat every single GOP candidate to gain the nomination, so the disaffection and frustration on the Right was significant.
If you want the Party back from this fool, addressing the problems that the fool identified is mandatory.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:16 amDRJ stopped making new posts.
This is unacceptable.
Dave (1bb933) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:17 amWe need to modify the emergency powers act to require an up or down vote on the emergency action by congress within a reasonable time frame
Considering the way these powers are most often used (e.g. sanctions against Chad), simply banning the use of “emergency powers” for actual emergencies should suffice.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:19 amMeanwhile, Kate Steinle’s killer’s conviction overturned.
Apparently he wasn’t really possessing the gun when he dropped it, or he didn’t get both feet in bounds, or something technical.
But the real question is: what racist California cop let the federal INS have this now-innocent migrant?
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:25 amSpeaking of links that may interest the readership, here is an excerpt of Neil Gorsuch’s new book regarding the Constitution’s separation of powers, and the consequences of ignoring them:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/disregarding-separation-of-powers-has-real-life-consequences/
The third one seems to be describing a situation uncomfortably close to the “Let’s do an executive order to repeal birthright citizenship”. Gorsuch does not approve…
Appalled (d07ae6) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:28 amGorsuch sounds like a man who might vote to reverse Chadha.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:56 amOt fasbinder for dr. Doom, not that series isnt already norwegian blue.
Narciso (52211c) — 9/5/2019 @ 12:12 pmI don’t like
MondaysGeldof, but this really intensifies the feeling:https://www.spin.com/featured/live-aid-the-terrible-truth-ethiopia-bob-geldof-feature/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/5/2019 @ 12:21 pmGroper joe was bleeding from eye at cnn forum last night time to cut down on the speed tablets!
lany (db47d4) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:14 pm@1. “The details are irrelevant in terms of decision making…” – says former VP JoeyBee to NPR.
“The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain.” – UK Prime Minister Henry Higgins
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:15 pm5. Brotherico (dfc953) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:06 am
I don’t know about the marker, or whether that was the chart somebody showed him, but it is extremely plausible and very likely that he did not invent the notion of the hurricane hitting Alabama because:
1) He’d have no reason to invent that. Not even a reason to make a mistake like that.
2) When people are accused of something they didn’t do, they get much more defensive than when it is about something they did do. We see this with Trump with many of the Russia-connected allegations. He gets extremely defensive about it. Now not so about paying off Stormy Daniels.
In fact, this is so common that police detectives have been known to use this as confirmation. If they are right and somebody is accused of soemthing and gets arrested for it, he goes to sleep. Not so with somebody who didn’t do it. At least if it is unexpected.
Ad Trump is extremely defensive about this. That’s a sign he’s telling the truth. becsuse he doesn’t double and triple down like this when he lies.
The National Hurricane Center is engaged in a cover-up effort. They don’t wnat people to know how vry bad and inaccurate their projections and warnings are.
Now as for the sharpie – it could be that Trump ordered that whatever he saw be produced and they couldn’t produce it, so somebody did that.
It seems like Trump is now looking for further proof tat he was told a portion of alabama cold be affected.
There should be Congressional hearings on this. I think something is rotten at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:15 pm35. We got Trump because of the quality of both the Republican and he Democratic candidates iin 2016. And a little bit, the rules.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:17 pmThe 4th Democratic debate has the same rules for qualifying as the 3rd, except for the dates of relevant polls, and the deadline for qualifying for the 4h Democratic debate is Ocrober 1
Bill de Blaso says he may drop out if he doens’t make it. He’s not dropping out now because he says somebody can be totally unknown one day and then nationally famous 72 hours later.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:19 pmTrumop knows where Alabama is. His first big boost into credibiliy among the Washington Republicans was when he got endorsed for president by Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama efore the Alabama primary.
Just the other day he mentioned something about the Panhandle of Florida, If you know about the panhandle you know about Alabama. And if he didn’t know Alabama was there why would he mention it?
A. Only because either he was told (most likely) or because he knows Alabama is northwest of most of Florida.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:25 pm‘Course, the “storm” over ‘map making’ is a clever way for Trump to spin a week long, attention-grabbing, headline-stealing hurricane a story about him in the media. It’s Trump 101.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:33 pmTrump just tweeted a metion of Alabama in passing. It was other people who made a big story about it. Then Trump defended himself.
I think because in fact it was mentioned to him, and not on TV. And even on TV they would most likely have had to get it from some suposed to be authoritative source.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:38 pmA picture is worth a thousand Sharpies:
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/satellite-captures-four-tropical-cyclones-from-space
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:43 pm‘The third one seems to be describing a situation uncomfortably close to the “Let’s do an executive order to repeal birthright citizenship”. Gorsuch does not approve…’
Appalled (d07ae6) — 9/5/2019 @ 11:28 am
It seems the power to treat the law as silly putty rests with the judicial branch alone.
Munroe (732181) — 9/5/2019 @ 1:53 pmTrump needs to double-down and triple-down on using Sharpies!
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/5/2019 @ 2:00 pmAt least Trump uses a map and a Sharpie for his lies. The Democrats make them up out of thin air.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 2:39 pmthe Russians really aren’t that impressive,
https://streetwiseprofessor.com/rogozin-the-ridiculous-like-a-bad-kopec-he-keeps-turning-up/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 2:53 pmwon’t make anyone safer,
https://saraacarter.com/cvs-bans-guns-caving-to-pressure-from-major-retailers/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 3:05 pmin other news:
https://www.meforum.org/59310/ecuador-battleground-to-secure-us-border
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 3:54 pmsuch is what passes for justice,
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-05/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/5/2019 @ 4:12 pmhttps://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/young-punk-gets-tkod-by-grandpa/
mg (8f83ac) — 9/5/2019 @ 4:59 pmOld timer justice Rocks.
In the case below, she was found guilty of encouraging her boyfriend to kill himself.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/06/16/shes-accused-of-pushing-him-to-suicide-now-a-judge-has-decided-her-fate/
How is that any different than what Gamegate antagonist Zoe Quinn did by accusing her ex of horrible acts and getting him fired and banned from his profession leading to him killing himself?
NJRob (574b63) — 9/5/2019 @ 5:44 pmAppalled @39
No, it has nothing to do with that. And I;’m not sure why the law was held against him. Immigration law can be a minefield, and of course, it shouldn’t be, but it alregely affects non-citizens so I guess the attitude iswho cares.
The first example Gorsuch has is a different problem. It’s changing laws. And an agency not knowing what the law was. The solution would be keeping track of it. It not really a law even, bit a contract.
One year, the government performed an audit and concluded that Caring Hearts had improperly billed hundreds of thousands of dollars of services, so it slapped a fine of over $800,000 on the company. The trouble was, the government applied the wrong rules. Instead of applying the regulations in effect during the time Caring Hearts provided its services, it faulted the company for failing to abide more-onerous rules that the agency adopted only years later.
The sedcond example is really very technical. A person was comvicted of the crime knowingly possessing agun while a felon. The government appealed a decision and said he n;y had to knowingly possess a firearm. Now in most cases aperson should know wheter he wasa felon or not but in this case there was perhaps reasonable doubt as to that because when he previously pleaded guilty to the prior offense, the judge told him that he would leave the courtroom “not convicted of a felony!” Now there should be a quesiton of how much he knew what a felony was and what disablities it entailed. Anyway his crime is not a malum per se – and if trul;y didn’t know what’s the point of punishing him?
The third case has to do with the 10-year bar to legal entry even under other grounds, of someone who was deported. Congress enacted this n order to “enforce the law” but it doesn’t make sense. Now there was anotehr law that said he coudl adjust his status without leaving the country. In which case the 10-year bar to reentry would never come into effect. The issue here appears to be whether an administrative agency can challenge a court decision.Justice Gorsuch doesn’t say how this whole issue was resolved.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 6:19 pmIf brthright citzenship was chanegd there’d be a lot of U.S. citizens even under the new rules. who would ahve avery hard time proving it. Because they’d have to prove that their parents were citizens or lawful permanent residents too, and we don’t keep records like that.
It could create a nightmare like what India is now entering into:
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/08/30/world/asia/ap-as-india-citizens-registry.html
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/09/02/world/asia/ap-as-india-citizenship-assam.html
Of course you might be very cynical about what is going on.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 6:23 pmhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-insists-alabama-was-threatened-by-dorian-shares-forecast-model
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 6:27 pmNow who’s lying – Donald Trump, or the civil service people at NOAA?
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/5/2019 @ 6:28 pmNow who’s lying – Donald Trump, or the civil service people at NOAA?
In a minefield of lying liars, Trump hardly seems an outlier.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 6:42 pmFor those that didn’t understand #2, here’s an item that will be off-topic forever at the MSM:
From Matiss’s new book:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/mattis-obama-failed-to-respond-to-iran-bomb-plot-on-u-s-soil-because-of-nuclear-deal/
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:08 pmYes, Mattis mentioned this plot during an interview the other day. He is certainly unloading on Obama and Biden during this book tour, which will probably mean the media will quickly lose interest in what he has to say.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:14 pmDonald Trump, a million times Donald Trump, since the briefing where they used that document was 4 days before he tweeted ‘Bama, and the forecasters had released 5 iterations of said document since, none of which had it impacting Alabama, including the one from 4 hours before his tweet that accurately had it not making direct impact anywhere until the Carolina’s.
They absolutely briefed him on the map that almost had it going to Alabama, then briefed him for days on it not hitting Alabama. But Trump being a disinterested moron, didn’t pay attention, said both dated and wrong information, instead of just copping to the absolutely obvious truth, has quintupled down on a lie, using evidence that shows it’s a lie in the actual words on the page, and still keeps tweeting, and saying, that the words he says vindicate him, but are actually doing more damage.
He is a simpleton, if the ample evidence a need for a 25th amendment remedy is necessary, this bizarre incident should.
Can there be any doubt that he is unable to discharge the duties of president? It would not only get this reform school reject out of the way, but it may allow for an actual Republican to run instead, or at least a sane person.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:17 pmTotally off topic but since this is a place where some people like data, facts and accuracy
Clearly shows that fishing boat accidents are a huge threat to marriage!
Time123 (36651d) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:27 pmCan there be any doubt that he is unable to discharge the duties of president? It would not only get this reform school reject out of the way, but it may allow for an actual Republican to run instead, or at least a sane person.
But the GOP primary voters rejected the entire GOP platform, as evidenced in their failure to support the mainstream GOP candidates. Unless and until another candidate emerges that the GOP rank-and-file will support (and they are not really listening), bashing Trump just makes him stronger.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:30 pmCK, I’m not sure ‘sane’ is what his die hards want. As long as he ‘owns the libs’ and ‘fights’ they love him. Doesn’t matter if he lies, or doesn’t accomplish very much, or does a ton of damage to our foreign relations, he’s fighting and anyway what about the time Obama got the number of states wrong or wore a Tan suite? And anyway he’s better than Hillary so we need to love everything does or says.
Time123 (36651d) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:31 pmNow, if Cruz were to throw down and say “I will do what Trump has failed to do, and I will make those #NeverTrump punks like it!” maybe.
Of course the MSM will have Trump’s back because they still view him as the weaker GOP candidate.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:33 pmand he get’s ratings. they love anything that pulls eyeballs.
Time123 (36651d) — 9/5/2019 @ 7:35 pmWhat part of they will never let ted cruz have the nomination, im 50/50 about how they feel about pence.
Narciso (52211c) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:16 pmManufactured beef as opposed to chlorinated chicken? If anything the booking fiasco is a ready made excuse to can establishment COS-VP Marc Short
And DCSCA smiles
urbanleftbehind (0ed343) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:28 pmThe MSM may believe Cruz has a lower ceiling because he’s a “speck”, overly religious and can white knight at a moment’s notice e.g. just a non-Univision/ no guayabera Marco, the key is whether Never Trump # gained back is > Only Teump # lost.
urbanleftbehind (0ed343) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:32 pmOnly Portland and Antifa could make MLS kinda sorta semi-interesting.
https://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/2019/09/timbers-army-announces-plans-for-protest-after-major-league-soccer-bans-fans-for-flying-iron-front-flags.html
Munroe (732181) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:35 pmOne could hope for a Timbers-NYCFC MLS Cup.
urbanleftbehind (0ed343) — 9/5/2019 @ 8:41 pmTo absolutely no one’s surprise, Amazon mostly got its wealth via coordinating the race to the bottom, in a surprisingly competent article for Buzzfeed:
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/carolineodonovan/amazon-next-day-delivery-deaths
“Lisa Bythewood of Tampa signed her first contract to provide delivery services to Amazon in March 2015, running routes out of Miami. In less than two months, Amazon assigned her two more locations. She was excited, but also noticed that it hadn’t yet paid any of her weekly invoices, she recalls. Figuring it was just a bureaucratic hang-up, Bythewood took out a large line of credit to keep her business afloat.
By August, Amazon had awarded her company, VHU Express, an additional 17 locations, stretching from LA to Boston. But as the fall set in, she noticed that once again, Amazon was failing to pay her invoices and she started falling behind on her overhead. Bythewood took out a second line of credit, but it wasn’t enough and drivers started going unpaid.
At least one of those drivers complained to the Department of Labor, which launched an investigation in early 2016. The regulator found that 120 employees were owed a total of nearly $190,000 in back wages and overtime — but determined that nearly all of that should be paid by Amazon rather than VHU, according to Labor Department records.
It was a very unusual finding. Amazon has successfully argued, on multiple occasions in court and to regulators, that it had no responsibility for the treatment of drivers.
The DOL investigator felt differently, noting that because Amazon controlled and supervised the work and working conditions, required VHU to operate out of its facilities, mandated what screenings employees should undergo and what clothing they should wear, and could “dictate who they no longer wanted working as” drivers, it was in fact a joint employer.
Amazon acknowledged it had problems with its invoicing system, blaming a variety of factors, including having “moved their accounts payable department to India.” The company vigorously denied being a joint employer, but to get out from under the Labor Department’s thumb, it agreed to pay the workers. It also consented to pay back wages in Florida and Massachusetts, for a total of $352,816.71.
But that didn’t put the matter to rest.
Around the same time, Amazon terminated its contract with Bythewood, who had to lay off about 300 employees. Soon thereafter it filed a claim against VHU in court, arguing that the firm had violated its contract, which required it to “defend, indemnify, and hold harmless Amazon from any third-party allegation or claim.” Eventually Amazon won a judgment against its former delivery company for nearly $300,000, despite the fact that it had apparently created the entire situation in the first place by failing to pay its invoices. Eventually Bythewood said she settled the dispute with Amazon out of court.
In the meantime, Bythewood, a 51-year old mother of seven, was left facing lawsuits from unpaid lenders, insurers, van leasing companies, and workers. In a bid to help her, Bythewood’s mother emptied her own retirement fund, but it was to no avail: Bythewood and her husband filed for personal bankruptcy a few months later, listing more than $1 million in unpaid Amazon invoices in the filing.
The previous summer she had been named a finalist in the Tampa Bay Business Journal’s BusinessWoman of the Year awards because her company had landed a contract with Amazon. Now her company was gone.”
The wrong Amazon is burning, that’s for sure.
Terra Recon (35984e) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:24 pmI think David Brooks needs a hug.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/opinion/internet-extremism.html
Nic (896fdf) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:35 pmOh no, Amazon is an unfeeling corporate behemoth out to maximize their market domination. So they’re exactly like Walmart, IBM, ExxonMobile, Trump Org (minus all the bankruptcies of course)…
If you want a benevolent corporate leader, found a company and let Marianne Williamson run it and see how long you last, or are you saying the state should mandate companies be “nice”? Also, please enlighten us with a list of hyper-successful companies that behave with only velvet gloves. Public companies, especially public companies, exist to maximize shareholder value, some have great PR, some don’t, that’s the difference.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 9/5/2019 @ 9:43 pmhttps://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/09/05/media-cancel-james-mattis-learn-book-criticizes-wrong-president/
mg (8f83ac) — 9/6/2019 @ 2:38 ambummer for obama
Allahpundit links to a Philip Klein column and discusses an intriguing question, will Trump still command the Republican party when is out of office via Twitter?
https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/09/05/will-trump-still-running-gop-leaves-office/
Klein’s column is an interesting read from a presidential historical perspective, and Allahpundit’s analysis of the political landscape is astute. Both point to an irredeemable reality, the complete and total transmogrification of the GOP under Trump.
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 9/6/2019 @ 4:56 amTR, that’s terrible. My father does equipment repair work for medical equipment, Hospitals slow walk invoices so often that Cashflow is terrible. There’s a limit to how long you can carry your customer. Amazon needs to get their crap together.
Time123 (89dfb2) — 9/6/2019 @ 5:27 amWal-Mart is the master of net 59 days.
urbanleftbehind (f279b4) — 9/6/2019 @ 5:28 amI know why save newsom from his own mendacity
Narciso (52211c) — 9/6/2019 @ 5:43 amhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-prepares-to-revoke-californias-right-to-set-tougher-pollution-rules/ar-AAGRWdd?li=BBnb7Kz
He should have Junior and the PR leprechauness in the background at that inking, Narciso.
urbanleftbehind (f279b4) — 9/6/2019 @ 5:50 amHes not doing for them, but those trapped behind the lines.
Narciso (52211c) — 9/6/2019 @ 6:02 amLots of people don’t know where Alabama is right off the tops of their heads, Sammy. https://www.foxnews.com/media/stephanie-grisham-cnn-alabama-mississippi-graphic It’s a perfectly natural thing that they should not and not especially care that they don’t. But when they need to, they find out. Or admit their mistake.
nk (dbc370) — 9/6/2019 @ 6:59 amLots of people talkin’
Few of them know
The soul of Mugabe
Was created below
https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/1169941303045611520
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/6/2019 @ 7:09 amHis cadres murdered missionaries with the connivance of the west, the massacres they say werent happening then.
Narciso (52211c) — 9/6/2019 @ 7:16 amLike they tell us about south africa today, comprende.
Narciso (52211c) — 9/6/2019 @ 7:17 amBrotherico,
A Trump official has said it was Trump:
It’s anonymous and does not sound like an eyewitness account, so take it for what it’s worth. I believe it, because it’s such a boneheaded thing to do that no competent person would do it, IMO, which leaves our President.
Patterico (115b1f) — 9/6/2019 @ 7:29 amSammy (#61)
Gorsuch, in his example 3, speaks of an administrative entity effectively overruling judicial precedent in the context of immigration law. What is a Presidential “executive action” on birthright citizenship? An executive branch action that probably overrules judicial precedent in an immigration law context.
That’s what generates my uncomfortably close argument. I think I got enough here to make that comment.
Appalled (99fa6b) — 9/6/2019 @ 7:46 amTwo years ago was the las vegas massacre, yesterday was the travestu of a ghost ship verdict.
Narciso (52211c) — 9/6/2019 @ 7:49 amhttps://dailycaller.com/2019/09/06/maryland-illegal-alien-conservative-media-sanctuary/
Just doing the raping that Americans won’t do. Defended by the leftist government too.
NJRob (4d595c) — 9/6/2019 @ 8:01 amMaybe its a roundabout way to make partisans of another issue feel like the Steinle family.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/6/2019 @ 8:01 amBut you know, strange new respect recipient Dave Chappelle would blame the parents of the chamacos.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/6/2019 @ 8:02 amIs Dave Chapelle the cynosure du jour? You guys keep mentioning him, and Netflix has something by him on top, and that’s all I know about him.
I doubt that you’ll tell me even if you know which I also doubt, but what was the name of the black lady comedian on the full-bodied side from the ’80s whose routine included:
nk (dbc370) — 9/6/2019 @ 8:23 amNot only that, Patterico, but falsifying a weather report is a federal crime, for which Trump may face charges or at least another investigation. Besides utterly ruining the Republican party, he keeps giving Democrats more and more ammunition to fire at him. Several media outlets, the Daily Beast, Business Insider, among others, report that committee chairs are intensifying investigations into violations of the emoluments clause, in regards to Pence’s stay at Trump’s golf resort in Ireland and Trump’s suggestion to host the G-7 next year at his golf resort in Doral, Florida.
Also, the Guardian notes the DoBos–that would be Donald and Boris–rose together and are now falling together, losing their majorities. Brexit is as much a failure as the Wall, which Mexico will not pay for. The list goes on, including increased attention on Trump’s finances, now focused on false loan documents to avoid paying income taxes.
I could post links to all of those, but that would be redundant. I always knew he was a fraud and a failure from the beginning, which is why I did not vote for him and will not vote for any Republican who supports or defends him. He is a cancer on conservatism.
Instead, I will link to proof that he’s losing the trade war, and it’s hurting the economy.
https://reason.com/2019/09/05/trumps-tariffs-fail-again/
Everything Trump touches turns to mold.
Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1) — 9/6/2019 @ 8:28 am94. Appalled (99fa6b) — 9/6/2019 @ 7:46 am
Example 3 is (possibly) a case of an executive branch agency ignoring a court ruling, or perhaps declaring it does not apply in this case, or in this circuit, but not overruling it. All for no rational reason other than to be punitive for its own sake, and perhaps advance the career of the person responsible. But I feel they probably did indeed hae a leg to stand on, and that that’s not the end of the story either.
I have a feeling that Justice Gorsuch is trying to push things into categories to which they they do not belong, and to do he leaves out many details. It’s hard to even understand what really happened in all these three cases. But they don’t seem t me to really be cases of executive rach agencies purporting to overrule court decisions. None of thse examples are things like that.
Example 1 is government changing a contract, which probably, under any dispensation, it would have a right to do. Now it may be here that what they actually did is change a regulation. Still, the point is, is what you have here is an overbearing government that doesn;t feel any obligation to get things right.
What the government did here was an audit, probably years after the fact. The people who did the audit probably didn’t have any idea that the rules had changed (and the company also didn’t call it to their attention because they were not familiar with the changing rules. Only when they really got sued, did a lawyer they hired discover the cause of the problem. Now perhaps actually another thing: Maybe they really were in violation for later years. Who knows? Gorsuch isn’t really telling you things. I have this urge to look up the case. Find a news report maybe.
Example 2 happens all the time. It is a case of a prosecutor appealing a court decision in interpretation of a law. It was a court overrruling a lower court and not an executive branch agency overruling a court.
It may be that they got the ccurt to rule in way Justice Gorsuch finds very wrong, and they were not trying to do anything that made sense, but to put a feather in the cap of the prosecutor. It was, at a minimum, maybe Justice Gorsuch thinks, a classic case for what is called prosecutorial discretion.
Perhaps also in this case there is a real reasonable doubt that the person in question knew he was a felon and/or that it would illegal for him to possess a gun, nor was he maybe a habitual criminal.
Perhaps the initial ruling would not make the law a dead leter in most cases and there wouldn’t be too many cases where you’d have trouble proving he knew, or should be presumed to know, he was a felon, so there was no good reason for fighting to send this person to jail.
The big problem there, however, is the old principle that “ignorance of the law is no excuse” which can be very unfair. Nobody but lawyers consulted on big, complicated, business deals consults the statute books. They rely on general perception of what is legal and what is not.
More than that. Disregarding tons of experience. And what’s worse, the people who want to do it, want to fine tune things – they want to grandfather in all people currently regarded as citizens. That’s writing law and not even interpreting it.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/6/2019 @ 9:20 amYet you can argue that example 3 shows that the Trump Administration is fanatical about immigration.
Also sneaky. They tried changing another practice. Giving people under medical care extra time to stay in the United States. They did that on the sly, without notice, either to people affeceted (patients and doctors – doctors consider themselves to have a moral obligation to ensure continuity of care) or to Congress. (100 Democrats members of Congress did write a letter to Trump protesting this, but I don’t know if any of teh presidential candidates said anything)
Now it’s been reversed so that applications in the pipeline on August 7th will be processed, but no new ones will be granted, although they are trying to hint there is a possibility ICE would do it when it wouldn’t. Now tere is always “extreme hardship” so if someone had a lot of money or tere is newspaper coverage a cas may havea different outcome. Now should publicitry determine what the government does?
And another thing: There is nothing in the constitution that says it must be practical to enforce any law Congress can enact. A president does not get extra powers simply because he sees no way to enforce the law. Or to achieve any other goal or purpose of government, like reducing the deficit. Nixon learned that with impoundment. Now national survival may be a different story – but Lincoln was very careful with what he did in exceeding his normal powers.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/6/2019 @ 9:24 amIf Trump used a sharpie (and he may have) he did not falsify aweather report. This was historical at the time.
It still nevertheless seems to eb true that he was told about Alabama and there may even have been a graphic – it just maybe was that nobody located it for him. And he might have resorted to forgery. Which he shouldn’t have if that’s waht happened.
Fox News reported there was such a graphic and it was even shown on NBC:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-insists-alabama-was-threatened-by-dorian-shares-forecast-model
I don’t know. Perhaps Trump decided he was going to “re-create” a graphic.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/6/2019 @ 9:31 amTrump may have been remembering a graphic he thought he saw, but not one that he actually saw, and all the ones he’s proposed as the evidence, don’t say what he thinks they say, and especially didn’t say what he said they did on the actual day that he said it.
Simple truth, he mis-remembered a detail.
And he’s now taken a week, lying about the detail, doubling down every day that not only did he not-not remember, but the thing he didn’t remember doesn’t say the things it says, see look at this other thing that doesn’t say what I think it said…
Someone needs to explain the first rule of holes to him.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 9/6/2019 @ 9:46 am#101 & 102 —
What’s more importnt about Gorsuch’s article isn’t whether he is right, but that he, a Supreme Court justice, believes it. The principles he discusses in the article are going to be the ones that govern his decisions on the Court. I would be interested how Breyer (as an example) would deal with these same fact situations.
Appalled (1fa00c) — 9/6/2019 @ 9:57 amHeh!
nk (dbc370) — 9/6/2019 @ 10:03 amlearning some lesson from that other sports franchise,
https://freebeacon.com/issues/exclusive-walmart-partially-clarifies-statement-on-ending-certain-ammunition-sales/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/6/2019 @ 10:03 amFormer dictatr of Zimbabwe (one time Southern Rhodesia) has died.
But his system is not over.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 9/6/2019 @ 11:39 ambecause his lieutenant, emerson mngawawa (sic) is In charge,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/6/2019 @ 11:41 amwell he played carlos bringuier in jfk and a thinly disguised d’arbuisson in Salvador, so no surprise,
https://babalublog.com/2019/09/05/cuban-american-actor-tony-jefe-plana-stars-in-castroite-propaganda-blurb-badly-disguised-as-movie-wasp-network-filmed-in-cuba-with-gleeful-co-operation-of-the-castro-regime-movie-vilifi/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/6/2019 @ 11:45 amThe gun used by the Odesssa Midland Texas highwsy shooter was not only bought by him illegally, it was manufactured illegally.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/gun-used-in-texas-shooting-illegally-manufactured-sold-report
Seth Ator has failed a background check back in January 2014, because he’d been declared mentally unfit by a local court.
While a private firearm seller has no obligation to conduct a backgroiund check, it is illegal for him to ignnre the results if he knows it.
They think someone in Lubbock, Texas was manufacturing and selling AR-15s (from parts purchased online) but they are not yet ready to make an arrest and have not released his name.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/authorities-suspect-man-of-making-and-selling-gun-used-in-texas-shooting-11567639127
By the way, his boss(es?) said he didn’t do ir because he was fired – he was already angry that day when he got there.
He 9and his employer both called 911. but he did not ake any threats before teh shooting. Afterwards he called and said he was the person.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 9/6/2019 @ 11:51 am108. 109
I think the Chonese government arranged the replacement of Mugabe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Zimbabwe_relations
https://thediplomat.com/2017/11/diamonds-and-the-crocodile-chinas-role-in-the-zimbabwe-coup
Mugabe was getting very old. They had to switch horses.
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 9/6/2019 @ 11:57 amYes, but the delivery company had agreed not to let anyone (but themselves) sue Amazon.
I think there may be some principle of law that makes this provison against the publc inteest and vofd I kow small print is sometimes thrown out 0 there may be otehr things.
Anyway, if VHU Express had in the remotest anticipated this, it would have stopped working for Amazon as soon as Amazon fell behind in its payments to them. And it would not have taken on debt.
Does Amazon think it should only deal well capitalized companies?
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 9/6/2019 @ 12:21 pmMaybe the right legal manuever was to ask to replace the wrkers in the lawsuit aaginst Amazon. Or what – get a judgement against themselees and then in turn sue Amazon?
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 9/6/2019 @ 12:23 pmSue Amaszon and ask for court costs and punitive damages. Is that what Amazon says they should have done?
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 9/6/2019 @ 12:24 pmTony P. sold his soul to be on the cholo/ese exaggerated Latino movie call-back list. Appropo of one of his roles, I guess Texas is nothing but steers and queers (guess the particular film).
urbanleftbehind (f279b4) — 9/6/2019 @ 1:18 pmwell it pays the mortgage with spots on mayans, and the punisher,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/6/2019 @ 1:26 pmas to my other paisan, what will matt yglesias do now,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/6/2019 @ 1:28 pm– Joe Pesci
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/6/2019 @ 1:44 pm“as to my other paisan, what will matt yglesias do now,”
I know, I know… what is “learn to code” ?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/6/2019 @ 1:47 pmhence he’s playing the part of Hoffa, in the Irishmen, if memory serves,
most of think regress has ended up at vox bezos and the times, like the wyrms from colony in space, (1974)
narciso (d1f714) — 9/6/2019 @ 1:48 pmso she can’t play the plame card,
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/ex-cia-spy-readies-publish-book-without-approval-agency-n1050456
narciso (d1f714) — 9/6/2019 @ 2:10 pmhttps://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/man-charged-68000-for-one-beer
mg (8f83ac) — 9/6/2019 @ 5:50 pmcheers
He used a debit card, from a home equity account, to buy a beer in a bar? Put it in the category of “Thinning the Herd”.
nk (dbc370) — 9/6/2019 @ 6:06 pmMarsha Warfield!
nk (dbc370) — 9/6/2019 @ 6:16 pm…a classy broad compared to her modern day equivalent Leslie Jones. For what it’s worth, Tiffany Haddish is on my Whitley Gilbert* list.
*reference to a phrase uttered by Dean Cain and his painfully stereotypical white guy chums during a very special February 1992 episode of A Different World.
urbanleftbehind (d16506) — 9/6/2019 @ 6:37 pmhttps://www.bostonherald.com/2019/09/04/lawyer-taken-away-in-handcuffs-after-showdown-with-boston-judge/
mg (8f83ac) — 9/7/2019 @ 2:42 amdisbarred lawyers can do no more harm.
Someone should give him a copy of The Caine Mutiny. Power can isolate and corrupt a commander’s judgment.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/7/2019 @ 3:32 amRe: Disbarment…New Swedes say hold my beer or whatever they drink if they are “observant”: http://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2019/09/06/asap-rocky-lawyer-henrik-olssen-lilja-shot-sweden/2231102001/
urbanleftbehind (d2ef51) — 9/7/2019 @ 5:29 amLike that lepidus character who is a crir me novelist
Narciso (f87a1e) — 9/7/2019 @ 7:04 amhttps://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/the-week-in-pictures-sharpie-edition.php
narciso (d1f714) — 9/7/2019 @ 9:49 amThis week in politics — Emoluments and conflicts of interest impact the military:
DRJ (15874d) — 9/7/2019 @ 10:14 amIf there’s a more no-account varmint than a leftwing lawyer, a snake has legs…
“As it turns out, Katz wasn’t as opposed to a “highly politicized environment” as she maintained. “In the aftermath of these hearings, I believe that Christine’s testimony brought about more good than the harm misogynist Republicans caused by allowing Kavanaugh on the court,” Katz told attendees at the University of Baltimore’s Feminist Legal Theory Conference this past April. “He will always have an asterisk next to his name. When he takes a scalpel to Roe v. Wade, we will know who he is, we know his character, and we know what motivates him. And that is important; it is important that we know, and that is part of what motivated Christine.”
Only someone with a lawyer’s gift for prevarication could fail to comprehend Katz’s meaning. In this textbook definition of the Kinsley gaffe, Katz has revealed that not only was she motivated to litigate the claims against Kavanaugh for the advantageous political effect they would have but that her client was, too. And what was that desired effect? Affixing an “asterisk” to Kavanaugh’s record so that his judgments and decisions would be regarded as animated by biases and prejudices and would be, therefore, suspect if not entirely illegitimate.”
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/american-society/giving-up-the-game-debra-katz/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/7/2019 @ 10:36 amhttps://dailycaller.com/2019/09/06/trump-sharpie-dorian/
mg (8f83ac) — 9/7/2019 @ 10:38 amlmao
Theyre dead jim:
https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/weekly-basic-cable-ranker-fox-news-is-the-most-watched-for-34-straight-weeks-while-weather-channel-dominates-the-weekend-in-the-a25-54-demo/413531/
Narciso (1fc69a) — 9/7/2019 @ 10:50 amIt’s fairly incredible that Trump has now quadrupled down on the nonsense that Dorian was going to hit Alabama, and now it turns out that NOAA gave out a directive to the National Weather Service to not give out forecasts that conflicted with NOAA’s public statements and to not “provide any opinion” on Dorian. In other words, the NWS was supposed to shut up so that Trump could politicize the weather.
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/7/2019 @ 11:00 pmI’m sure that everyone wants to let this pathetic story go away, but this president just won’t let it happen.
The orange dipwiddle invited the Taliban to Camp David. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/07/politics/trump-cancels-secret-meeting-taliban-afghanistan-president/index.html
1. The terrorists have won.
nk (dbc370) — 9/8/2019 @ 4:41 am2. He really is a Russian asset.
https://news.usni.org/2019/09/06/the-state-of-lcs-navy-moving-to-add-firepower-capability-to-both-classes
Narciso (1fc69a) — 9/8/2019 @ 5:52 amRobert Mueller helped Saudi Arabia cover up its role in 9/11 attacks: suit
“While the Beltway media have portrayed Mueller as a by-the-book former Marine whose integrity is as square as his lantern-shaped jaw — a cop who can’t be compromised — others know better.”
https://nypost.com/2019/09/07/robert-mueller-helped-saudi-arabia-cover-up-its-role-in-9-11-attacks-suit/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/8/2019 @ 7:56 am83.
Today, I think on NBC’s Meet the Press, they had a panel speculating about what would happen after the possible demise of the Republican Party. One person said that today many people are Republicans because they hate the Democrats and many people are Democrats because they hate the Republican Party. (He also noted that the Democrats now have about 10% more of the electorate than the Republican Party. I may be combning things from teo different people.)
So, if one party went, the other would be diminished, (beause they were on;u supporting it becase of their opposition to the other party) and the Democratic Party would lose a lot of votes to whatever came after the Republican Party.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/8/2019 @ 10:36 amThere may soon be another reason to leave this godforsaken state…
https://reason.com/2019/09/06/teachers-unions-aiming-to-repeal-californias-property-tax-caps/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/8/2019 @ 11:15 am@136. Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/7/2019 @ 11:00 pm
no, he’s NOT saying that. What he’s saying is that it wss projected to possibly hit Alabama, and, most important (to Trump at least), HE WAS NOT WRONG in including Alabama in the list of areas that might be impacted by the storm.
This is what Trump tweeted (in part)
Now maybe this was no longer true about Alabama at the time of his Sunday, September 1 tweet.
But it’s still true that Alabama was in the air in the forecasts as of about August 29.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/us/politics/trump-alabama-dorian.html
And maybe because everyone with any experience knew the American models were wrong and exaggerated the size of the places that could be affected.
And Trump tweeted out a map that showed Alabama as being in danger that did not have anything added to it by a sharpie
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1169705282123046913
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/8/2019 @ 11:55 amAnyway, I think somebody briefed Trump about this, and mentioned Alabama, and maybe even made a map that they showed him,, possibly on a computer screen, but they didn’t caution him about how inaccurate the out-day projections usually are, and how fast the projections were changing.
It could be also that the map wasn’t of hurricane force winds.
So Trump, a day or two or three later, mentions Alabama because he had heard it mentioned at least once, and he wasn’t updated about this, and he doesn’t want to be leaving anyone out. Certainly not Alabama, because Alabama was one of his strongest states. He doesn’t want to be criticized for not mentioning a state. And this is his reward for being inclusive of everyone in danger and paying attention to detail.
As Trump tweeted:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1169706294242136073
This was attached to a retweet from the Alabama National Guard (and that’s where Trump got his map from)
https://twitter.com/AlabamaNG/status/1167439608638038018
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/8/2019 @ 11:58 amPaul Montagu @136:
They didn’t want them saying Trump was a utter fool, because he wasn’t a fool.
Now Trump has also said some thing that look like they’re wrong. But we don’t know that that’s not exactly what was told to him.
https://www.apnews.com/416144d854fb4302a9f3
He says he was shown models where “in all cases Alabama was hit, if not lightly, in some cases pretty hard….They actually gave that a 95% probability”
Someone commented “It’s not a probability of being hit by the hurricane, it’s a probability of getting tropical storm force winds, which isn’t the same thing.”
Here’s the definition:
https://www.weather.gov/mob/tropical_definitions
The word “gale” is used for 39–46 mph, and severe gale for 47–54 and higher than that or below hurricane they now just use the word storm.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/8/2019 @ 12:06 pm105. Appalled (1fa00c) — 9/6/2019 @ 9:57 am
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/8/2019 @ 12:37 pmTrump was wrong, then he lied about it, then he lied some more, then he forced some political appointees to lie to defend his lie. Being wrong wasn’t the issue, the lies on top of lies are the issue. Especially when the lies are so simply stupidly easy to disprove, with the actual documents they were showing to prove the lie.
Who cares where the forecast for the storm was going 4 days before Trump’s wrong tweet, it was wrong 3 days before, 2 days before, 1 day before, the day of, the day after. All was known, all was told to him, the fact that he didn’t pay attention to the changes for days at a time, is just another proof point of him being a moron. And the lying about it, is comical at this point, there is no defense, it was wrong, and has been followed up by continual lying, including the lies you’re using to try to defend the original wrong, and the lies upon lies.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 9/8/2019 @ 1:01 pmWhat is it… 5 or 6 days later? Terriers with a bone…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/8/2019 @ 1:07 pmWhen youre over macho grande, coronello.
Narciso (9b9220) — 9/8/2019 @ 1:12 pm“I think this is where the American people are. They think all of us are crazy. We should stop this.”
— Rahm Emanuel, pleading with the ABC panel this morning to stop their discussion of Sharpiegate and focus on something important…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/8/2019 @ 3:41 pm@147, if he’d said something like “This is a very dynamic situation. Glad Alabama isn’t in danger now. Please keep you eye on the NWS”. This would have blown over quickly because ppl make mistakes. But he didn’t do that. He doubled down and went so far nuts he marked up a map with a sharpie.
Time123 (53ef45) — 9/8/2019 @ 3:53 pmHeh:
Dana (9c29f0) — 9/8/2019 @ 3:57 pmWrong thread.
Dana (9c29f0) — 9/8/2019 @ 3:58 pmBreaking… Hillary Clinton comes out as white supremacist, pledges devotion to Teh Hitler!
https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_36/3000391/190906-warren-clinton-al-1500_3ac1941e345d1b9d52602f1e2f215e90.fit-1240w.jpg
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/8/2019 @ 4:53 pmHis words were not supported by any facts. Trump’s 9/1 tweet asserted that Alabama will “most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated”. If you look at this map as of 2am on 9/1, Alabama was in the dark green zone, meaning there was a 5% to 10% chance of tropical storm winds crossing 200-plus miles over land and hitting the Yellowhammer State. In other words, at the time of his tweet, it was unlikely that Dorian would reach Alabama. This was why NWS Birmingham directly contradited Trump’s words in a tweeted less than 30 minutes later.
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/8/2019 @ 5:16 pmBottom line, Trump has been wrong on the facts from get-go. His 9/1 tweet at 7:51am could be passed off as a simple mistake, but he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt after that. He’s too prolific a liar.
150. Time123 (53ef45) — 9/8/2019 @ 3:53 pm
Trump didn’t realize that. He thought the forecast he got on Thursday or Friday was still valid. At least as to places. He didn’t understand that Mational Weather Service forecasts became inoperative as fast as they did.
He may have also misunderstood what was the probability of at least gale force winds as being the probability of hurricane force winds.
He was being accused of just throwing in Alabama for no reason at all.
But of course he would have no reason to do so. (I think Trump was afraid to leave any state out, so he mentioned Alabama even though he undoubtedly hadn’t heard it mentioned much or lately)
I don’t know if by now, or by Friday, he understood what went wrong here.
You don’t have too many people trying to clarify the situation.
Sammy Finkelman (8dcc71) — 9/8/2019 @ 8:28 pmAgain, if true, that just shows he’s an idiot. Forecasts change, and since the forecast on no day had a significant impact on Alabama, whether from Thursday, Wednesday… So he is both stupid for not understanding the forecast from whenever they showed him where he thought they said Alabama, and is lazy for not bothering to pay attention to his briefing on Friday, or Saturday, or Sunday, all before he tweeted. And he’s a liar because every justification of his stupid, wrong, tweet, was a flat lie.
So he’s a lazy moron who lies all the time, but we already knew that, this case just shows it in neon lights.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 9/8/2019 @ 8:37 pmYou literally do not know what thoughts were swirling around in Trump’s head. As a matter of policy, NOAA updates their hurricane forecasts every six hours for a reason. If Trump assumed that the forecast didn’t change from Thursday-Friday to Sunday, then he’s just proving that he’s a man of “limited cognitive ability”. He had people available to tell him what the forecasts were prior to his tweeting.
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 9/8/2019 @ 8:44 pmThe Trump defenses are bizarre. Sane and good people fall all over themselves to justify this man’s bizarre actions. Why?
JRH (52aed3) — 9/9/2019 @ 1:38 amMy sane and dear family are convinced that God handpicked TRUMP of all people, to accomplish his divine purpose. Therefore, by definition, everything he does is right. It’s so bizarre and there is no reasoning with someone who thinks TRUMP is a literal arm of the Divine.
JRH (52aed3) — 9/9/2019 @ 1:40 amWith exports declining from China around the world, it might be time for the chicoms to start laying off congressional thieves and perhaps fire some local lobbyists.
mg (8cbc69) — 9/9/2019 @ 3:39 amHes just a blunt instrument, which is what is recovered.
Narciso (9b9220) — 9/9/2019 @ 6:17 amToo much sense:
Narciso (9b9220) — 9/9/2019 @ 7:02 amhttps://dailycaller.com/2019/09/07/tulsi-gabbard-election-impeach/
Today’s catchphrase is small pigeon.
DRJ (15874d) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:04 amoh the huge manatee,
https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/09/cory-bookers-rosario-dawson-endorse-2020/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:15 amwhat was all that blood sweat toil and tears about:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/09/brexit-latest-news-boris-johnson-warned-senior-judges-trying/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:18 amwho does he think he is avenatti?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mark-halperin-threatened-msnbc-chief-phil-griffin-for-nixing-his-comeback
narciso (d1f714) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:27 amjust a chip off the ole bloc,
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/09/new-book-claims-lisa-bloom-offered-to-help-harvey-weinstein-damage-reputations-of-his-accusers/
narciso (d1f714) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:40 am164…overrated (and I prefer the chick who has also been blue and green) and they’re probably mutual beards much like the Senator’s senior counterpart from Kentucky and his wife.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:45 amLa gente gentil lo llama “for companionship”, urbanleftbehind.
nk (dbc370) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:50 amnow saldana has been more mellow, whereas dawson was full occupy, going back eight years,
narciso (d1f714) — 9/9/2019 @ 9:52 amI hate to see this kind of stuff… a couple together for so long and then splitsville… https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/sarah-palin-s-husband-todd-files-divorce-over-incompatibility-temperament-n1051636
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/9/2019 @ 1:51 pm@171. GOP ‘family values?’
“You bet’cha.”
DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/9/2019 @ 6:09 pmIt’s good they were able to keep that family together for as long as they did, given the withering attacks by sleazy media and Democrats, BIRM.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/9/2019 @ 6:23 pmFrom the Annals of Corksoakers in Black Robes…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/09/california-judge-puts-national-block-on-donald-trumps-asylum-reform/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 9/10/2019 @ 8:23 amTrump just fired John Bolton as National Security Adviser.
https://nypost.com/2019/09/10/trump-fires-john-bolton-as-national-security-adviser
Sammy Finkelman (102c75) — 9/10/2019 @ 9:21 amhttps://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/north-carolina-republicans-audacious-power-play-then-all-hell-broke-loose/
mg (8cbc69) — 9/12/2019 @ 9:04 amlove it!!