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Trump’s Party

Filed under: Politics — DRJ @ 10:00 pm

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RealDonaldTrump on Twitter:

Great cohesion inside the Republican Party, the best I have ever seen. Despite all of the Fake News, my Poll Numbers are great. New internal polls show them to be the strongest we’ve had so far! Think what they’d be if I got fair media coverage!

7:21 AM · Aug 19, 2019

Maybe he will win in 2020 or maybe he won’t, but I agree with Trump that the GOP is his Party for now.


25 Responses to “Trump’s Party”

  1. I agree with Trump that the GOP is his Party for now

    America will never recover from the damage he’s doing.

    I’m sorry I lived to see it.

    Dave (1bb933)

  2. Hang in there, Sparky! There’s a lot to live for.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. It was Nixon’s party, too. Then Reagan’s, then W’s. The idea that major parties are some kind of frozen ideological movement is grade school politics. The expectation that one’s wing of a center-right (or center-left) party is the One True Wing is moronic.

    People who use the term “RINO” really don’t understand anything.

    10 years from now it will be different. Maybe it will be Cruz’ party. Maybe it will be Niki Haley’s party. Maybe it will be George P Bush’s party. Maybe someone we’ve never heard of will be in charge.

    Maybe Trump and AOC will destroy both parties and we’ll be talking about the Federalists vs the Liberals. The only thing that’s sure though is that it won’t be Trump’s party.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  4. Libertarian conservatism was always a hollow shell with donor money financing their views in the party. 90% of republicans are populists ;but had no power or money until trump gave them a voice and the tea party could no longer be controlled by the corporate donor class.

    lany (bebbe5)

  5. I just wish that the Democrats weren’t so dead set on feeding into Trump’s “It’s a binary choice and the other guy is worse!” strategy.

    To wit: Biden on Tuesday:

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  6. lany, your analysis of the GOP, libertarians and the Teas is as wildly wrong as my analysis of the Democrat/Socialist/Green would be. Give it up.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  7. @5. No kidding. ‘Vote for me to get rid of this guy’ isn’t much of a positive motivator as a strategy for planning the country’s future. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is SOP. JoeyBee should pick up his messages: April, 2020 called to remind him he drops out in March.

    @1. America survived a civil war, a depression and two world wars; a sneak attack in Hawaii, a red scare in Hollywood and 9/11. It muddled through the highs and lows of Coolidge and Hoover, all of the 1960’s, LBJ’s Vietnam and Nixon’s Watergate, Carter’s malaise and, of course, everything Reaganomics. Sit back and enjoy the show! It’ll be here after Trump.

    “Please don’t talk about me when I’m gone… ” – retiring NBC News correspondent Edwin Newman singing, hosting SNL, cold open, 1984

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  8. I’m a so happy Mittens is not president or we would all be paying carbon taxes. Mittens is a very lost soul.

    mg (8cbc69)

  9. Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/20/2019 @ 11:48 pm

    He’s just a troll. I have yet to see him contribute anything of any value to any thread here.

    kishnevi (0c10d1)

  10. So about that fustercluck with beckham, and the new stadium.

    Narciso (222325)

  11. In other places, MLS could just be the dream episode of Crossfire or the solution to the Antifa vs. White Natty kerfuffles. Maybe Miami should take the hard pass now.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  12. #1

    America will recover from Trump. The GOP may not.

    Appalled (d07ae6)

  13. According to the last Gallup poll, roughly 26% of voters self-identify as Republicans; 27% self-identify as Democrats. So that’s what, 53% of the electorate somewhat evenly divided, and most of them are swing voters. What about the 47% who self-identify as Independent or Libertarian, or any number of other third parties? Neither main party can win without getting their votes.

    So Trump has a high approval rating among self-identified Republicans. What exactly is 9-% of 26%, and how does it translate into a winning majority? It doesn’t, not by any calculation. Not when every Democrat and the vast majority of Independents/Libertarians will vote against him.

    He’s appealing to his base, which is shrinking. He is not appealing to the larger majority, which he needs to win.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  14. He’s appealing to his base, which is shrinking. He is not appealing to the larger majority, which he needs to win.

    Makes total sense that when you win an election despite getting almost 3 million fewer votes than your opponent that you’d bend over backward to drive away all but your most rabid supporters, doesn’t it?

    Trump’s abject stupidity is his only redeeming quality.

    Dave (1bb933)

  15. The recent leak around the NYT’s 1619 project, where they’ll pivot away from the failed Russia Collusion/Obstruction bullschiff to a America was founded on slavery strategy to bring even more disharmony and racial strife to the country should be no surprise. I mean to say that they continue to go lower than a snake’s belly, but this is a longstanding tradition for the old grey whooah.

    They betrayed millions of Jews when they downplayed the holocaust throughout WWII. They seldom reported on the horrors the Nazi regime were perpetrating and – since they’ve been looked to by other news media as their leader for decades – the rest of the media didn’t do much better. So when Eisenhower ordered the media cameras into the death camps, the true horrors could no longer be downplayed or disregarded. Eisenhower himself said he knew these Nazis were SOBs, but he had no idea just how bad until their entry into the the camps.

    So fvck the New York Times, Dean Baquet and all of the rest of the ratfvck leftist subversives.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. NeverTrump’s analysis is appropriate butt fodder…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. I’m a so happy Mittens is not president or we would all be paying carbon taxes. Mittens is a very lost soul.

    OTOH, we would have missed out on Obama’s second term and those wishy-washy Republicans would have 63 seats in the Senate.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  18. Trump’s abject stupidity is his only redeeming quality.

    Like Obama, his ineffectiveness has proved a blessing to the other side. Opportunity Cost.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  19. OTOH, we would have missed out on Obama’s second term and those wishy-washy Republicans would have 63 seats in the Senate.

    Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/21/2019 @ 7:49 pm

    I couldn’t stand romney’s phoniness, and he’s basically everything I dislike in a politician, but yes you are quite right. Trump v Hillary was the least important election, where no matter the result, things were going to trend worse for everybody. Obama v Romney was actually a very important election. Romney getting the nomination is basically when I gave up on the GOP, and though I did vote for him, I didn’t really care as much as I should have.

    Moderation feels like losing, but losing is much worse.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  20. My issue with Romney is recent. I’ve come to understand the populist dynamic (in BOTH parties) as being a rejection of global corporatism. Consider China, the EU and the Clinton-Bush center of pre-Trump politics. Massive trade agreements, heavy investment in low-wage countries, elites running everything (sometimes elected, sometimes appointed, sometimes at the point of a gun). Romney would have been an excellent choice to head a corporate USA. Obama was a poor choice, but he was on the same team.

    Trump blew this up. He’s a really really good wrecking ball, and it needed wrecking. Everything from Occupy to the Tea Party to Bernie’s brigades (to Brexit and the anti-EU movement to…) pointed this way.

    Trump is, of course, unable to pick up the pieces (and I see no Democrat with the wit, and the inclination to put them back in way that is BETTER than a corporate state). So, at best we drift. At worst we get an Elizabeth Warren who is probably capable of making the swocialist trains run on time.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  21. Who could have seen this coming?

    Sarah Sanders becomes the latest ex-Trump official to join Fox News

    It’s nice that she got a job where she can continue doing what she does best: lying on Donald Trump’s behalf.

    Dave (1bb933)

  22. Well, she kind of “thicc”, so it represents a departure from standard hiring practices and maybe, being a “Portland 10″, the Pence office meeting rules get relaxed

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

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